Jennifer Westacott and the Business Council vs the weather

Weather 1  :   BCA 0

Fresh from reading the BCA roadmap for our future and a check on the wind.

First the BCA submission to the government Technology Investment Roadmap. The imperative is to have zero emissions by 2050. Apparently that is their conception of the scientific consensus to keep the warming below 2 degrees.

The elements of the plan:

Decarbonisation of the economy by deploying negative and zero emission technologies. Such as electrolysis to produce hydrogen for export, carbon capture, replacing coal with bioenergy in the form of biochar/biocoke (whats wrong with old fashioned woodchips and dung?), electric cars. And a carbon tax.

More research is required on the feasibility of those options apart from woodchips and dung that are well tested technologies.

As to the weather, updating the current wind drought from yesterday, the situation has deteriorated. It was looking bad last night (mills under 5% capacity), then it picked up overnight to get over 10% but right now at 2pm it is 3% across the nation and trending down. It  has hit the deck in Tasmania (the battery of the nation) and is going down sharply elsewhere apart from Victoria where is is holding steady at 1.5%! Go Dan’s state, the wind leader with 2.77GW installed capacity, SA 2.1, NSW 1.6, Tas 0.6 and Qld  0.5. Of course it is usually over 10%, in case that is a consolation.

The scientific consensus around the IPCC.  Where is the Business Council getting their information on the scientific consensus? As I recall Richard Lindzen’s summary of the opinions around the IPCC, he identified three groups of people. The serious scientists were in two camps, those who were unconcerned about warming and the others who were concerned but not enough to predict anything remotely representing catastrophe in the next 50 to 100 years.

The third group contained three subgroups – these were attention-seeking scientists, radical activists and alarm-broadcasting media people.

 

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27 Responses to Jennifer Westacott and the Business Council vs the weather

  1. H B Bear

    Bruce Pascoe would be a big fan of burning woodchips. It is straight out of the Stone Age. Proven indeed.

  2. DrBeauGan

    Having a rather stupid woman in charge doesn’t help.

  3. Rayvic

    The elements of the BCA’s plan:

    “Decarbonisation of the economy by deploying negative and zero emission technologies. Such as electrolysis to produce hydrogen for export, carbon capture, replacing coal with bioenergy in the form of biochar/biocoke (whats wrong with old fashioned woodchips and dung?), electric cars. And a carbon tax.”

    Very sad to hear. It confirms that the BCA is living in cloud cuckoo land.

  4. NoFixedAddress

    The only Business that the BCA is interested in is Crony Business.

    The Crony Business Council of Australia has never seen a Political Party, Government or Public Service of whatever ideology that it didn’t like.

    It has actively worked against the interests of Australians and Small Business since it’s inception, no matter how they dress up their public face.

    CBCA – Working to appropriate your taxes.

  5. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Have I got this right? The BCA wants to make business in Australia less competitive in relation to the rest of the world? How does that benefit anyone except overseas interests? Ohhhhhhhhh! I might be on to something there?

  6. Oh come on

    The BCA is awful. Just awful. I think I prefer leftist pressure groups over this kind of amoral, corporatist filth.

  7. Rafe:

    The third group contained three subgroups – these were attention-seeking scientists, radical activists and alarm-broadcasting media people.

    No matter what the crisis is, at the back, stirring everything around, is the msm. How the hell did this happen? How the hell did the bulwark of democracy – a free and unfettered press – morph into a pyromaniac with a bucket of petrol?
    And how do we fix this problem?

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    They’re all going to look pretty dumb when they finally realise that nothing much is happening warming-wise.

    By which time they’ll have destroyed a whole country, plus much of its wildlife (birds & bats especially), all for a big lie pushed by lefty activists.

  9. NoFixedAddress

    I wonder how much Australian Fruit Bats are worth on the CCP Wet Market?

  10. Rafe Champion

    Winston, I think the problem started with journalists who went to uni instead of starting as cadets and it got worse when universities started schools of journalism. I would like to see an investigative journalist of the old school like Tony Thomas do a story on those schools to see who got to teach in them. Wendy Bacon was one I know about.

  11. Lawrence Ayres

    This must be a great example of the parlous state of our education when people who I assume have passed the HSC (insert state equivalent) do not know that CO2 is a. a gas not a solid and b. does not cause heating and c. a little heating is beneficial especially when feeding 7.5 billion people. Oh the extra CO2 is responsible for much of the growth in food production. Jennifer for God’s sake either get out or go learn some facts. You look like an idiot and what you have to say confirms it.

  12. Squirrel

    Lost me at “Roadmap”.

    Stuff like this should be kept under Strayan Eyes Only security, in a bunker somewhere under Parliament House, and then when the CCP hacks/steals it they can find out how to stuff up their economy, too.

  13. Wallace

    What we need is an irrefutable list of reasons why RE will not work.
    Easy to do , as there are many irrefutable facts you can put on a sheet.
    Facts that no matter what argument they bring up they can’t argue otherwise.
    Handy for these so called scientific bodies like this one .
    Facts like…
    One hundred ton of concrete under each pylon.
    All the technology designed and built overseas.
    All the figures that show a pitiful output.
    The one million dollar cleanup cost on decommissioning.
    Show the actual figures and let them try to pull them apart. They won’t!
    Just have a sheet of facts that can be placed before the greens, the media, the ABC, etc.

  14. areff

    I would like to see an investigative journalist of the old school like Tony Thomas

    Tony Thomas is a uni grad from back when it meant something, but most of all he’s a good journalist (and all that once implied).

    With friends like BCA, entrepreneurs don’t need enemies.

  15. Bruce

    A appropriately jolly tune:

  16. NoFixedAddress

    I’m so old I remember when The Age, and The Financial Review, actually reported.

  17. egg_

    Bruce Pascoe would be a big fan of burning woodchips

    Wood chips export for paper bad; wood chips export for thermal fuel good.

  18. IRFM

    For Jennifer Westacott read Heather Rideout whose policies saw the extinction of John Howard and see where that got us. BCA is a glorified socialist organisation and its contributions to Australian economic discussion should be totally bypassed and ignored.

  19. NoFixedAddress

    IRFM
    #3497555, posted on June 27, 2020 at 6:12 pm

    For Jennifer Westacott read Heather Rideout whose policies saw the extinction of John Howard and see where that got us. BCA is a glorified socialist organisation and its contributions to Australian economic discussion should be totally bypassed and ignored.

    But you have to acknowledge IRFM that Jennifer and Heather are and were fitting leaders of the CBCA.

    Sadly the Minerals Council of Australia are down the rabbit hole as well.

    https://minerals.org.au/energy-and-climate-change

  20. mem

    Sadly the Minerals Council of Australia are down the rabbit hole as well.

    Agree totally. The minerals council has been captured by the geen fungus and is getting worse by the week. I joined up as a friend and am now disgusted by what they are doing to their own membership. If any real members are out there for goodness sake get rid of the mob at the top that are orchestrating this pc bullshit. They don’t have the industry’s wellbeing at heart and are running amok with new policies and targets that will only do harm.

  21. Crossie

    The only Business that the BCA is interested in is Crony Business.

    The Crony Business Council of Australia has never seen a Political Party, Government or Public Service of whatever ideology that it didn’t like.

    These people like the subsidies to make up the profits their fraudulent products cannot. If any of these renewables were any good they would be profitable without the subsidies but our journalists are too stupid to twig to it. Or am I being too generous in calling them ignorant?

    BCA cannot lose, subsidies plump up the profits and being pro renewables gets the left off their backs.

  22. Mark M

    A fool and their money are easily parted.

    How much to prevent a heat wave?

    “ALP and Greens voters were far more willing to spend their own money to help prevent [global warming] than One Nation and Coalition voters.

    Still, a majority of those who voted for the Morrison Government were prepared to chip in.

    Even a third of Australians who said that [global warming] was not a problem for them personally were willing to cough up some of their own money to prevent it.”

    What Australians really think about climate action
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/australia-attitudes-climate-change-action-morrison-government/11878510?nw=0

    … and it is your tax that paid for this abc garbage.

  23. entropy

    electrolysis to produce hydrogen for export

    can someone explain to me how this is a viable option? Would it be easier for these yet to be revealed importers of our hydrogen just to generate the hyrdogen domestically, for storage, transport and just plain simple energy efficiency reasons? it seems like these is CSIRO’s version of “green jobs”.

    Besides, greenies don’t like it as for some reason they prefer batteries.

    The only Business that the BCA is interested in is Crony Business.

    quite so

  24. entropy

    These people like the subsidies to make up the profits their fraudulent products cannot. If any of these renewables were any good they would be profitable without the subsidies but our journalists are too stupid to twig to it. Or am I being too generous in calling them ignorant?

    but, but, CSIRO in its Australian National Outlook claims [headline fodder] renewables are cheaper! (journalists never look at the fine print in the assumptions).

  25. Terry

    ‘renewables are cheaper!…than what?

    I am faster than Usain Bolt over 100m, so long as Usain is gifted a ball and chain of sufficient weight.

  26. John A

    Squirrel #3497517, posted on June 27, 2020, at 5:33 pm

    Lost me at “Roadmap”.

    Stuff like this should be kept under Strayan Eyes Only security, in a bunker somewhere under Parliament House, and then when the CCP hacks/steals it they can find out how to stuff up their economy, too.

    Squirrel, I recommend the Prosser method:

    Arthur Dent:
    Oh, yes. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign outside the door saying “Beware of the Leopard.” Ever thought of going into advertising?

    With thanks to Douglas Adams Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

  27. Faye

    This is probably too long for a comment but I feel/felt so cranky about this I had to have a go at submitting a reply to our Shire Council’s plan of “Net Zero by 2030”:

    Climate Change – Net Zero by 2030
    Guiding Principles
    • A precautionary approach must be applied in planning for and mitigating climate change. The intensity of impacts and their timing are uncertain, and could be worse or occur sooner than indicated by current projections.

    No wonder Council has put up the “PRECAUTIONARY” flag because even the councillors know that the plan to arrive at its heroically misguided “Net Zero by 2030” is a slippery slope of voter damnation. Rate payers are not prepared to stand by and watch Council strip away their standard of living whilst ironically financing it with their rate payments.
    Alert: Council should be rethinking any unnecessary spending because many rate payers may not be able to pay their rates. Indeed Australia is now deeply in debt.
    Over the last 40-50 years, many dud predictions by climate change operatives never happened and now Council is about to commence a costly and life changing expedition predicated on CO2 being a pollutant and therefore must be net zeroed by 2030 to save the planet. Half of the population believes this is politically motivated with nothing to do with science. Knowing CO2 is not a pollutant (bad gas) makes Council’s Net Zero Emissions by 2030 plan preposterous.

    • Council has a key role to play in reducing its own emissions. It must also ensure that the natural and built assets and services it is responsible for are resilient to the predicted impacts of climate change.

    Australia’s Chief Scientist has said Australia “reducing its own emissions” will have virtually no effect on the temperature of the planet. It is presumed Council keeps everything in its care resilient at all times against all weathers.

    • In reducing its emissions, Council will strive to preferentially:
    (i) reduce energy use

    Hypocrisy reigns when all that we ever hear is the term “CARBON emissions”, instead of its REAL definition of “CARBON DIOXIDE emissions” – subterfuge writ large by the climate change purveyors. Reducing energy use via smart management of Council vehicles, electricity, etc is sensible because it saves rate payers’ money NOT because it will “save the planet”.

    (ii) generate renewable energy
    (iii) source energy from low emission sources

    For Council administration and councillors to contemplate generating renewable energy as a feasible energy resource sends shivers up the spines of rate payers who are savvy with the history of the renewables’ failed experiment. Renewables worldwide are poison. (See Michael Moore’s documentary video of “Planet of the Humans” for his balanced review on renewable energy.) The rate payers of Australia await the delivery of cheap reliable electricity.

    • Council will share information with the community to:
    (i) educate the community about climate change impacts and risks

    The Council’s perceived necessity to (brainwash) “educate” and convince rate payers to fund the removal of carbon dioxide by digging a hole and burying it or to buy “offsets” to fund projects that are supposed to remove the exact value in CO2 weight out of the air, is bordering on bizarre.

    • The environment of the Tweed Shire is of international significance and particularly vulnerable to climate change. Special attention needs to be given to the many species that will struggle to tolerate more extreme climatic conditions.

    The rate payers don’t have to be told what a beautiful area Tweed Shire is. The Tweed caldera rock is over 23 million years old but today’s Tweed Shire Council deems it “vulnerable”. Its 23 million years of biodiversity encountered greater highs and lows in temperature than the measly increase of 1.5 degrees Celsius deemed necessary to hold the line on climate change.

    Climate Change – Physical Effects on Tweed Shire
    • Hotter temperatures, including increased daytime temperatures, more hot days and fewer cold nights.

    Nothing to worry about here. It is called the weather. All things living flourish in warm to hot temperatures; cold weather kills.

    • Heatwaves will be hotter, and last longer.

    The sun is going through a benign period putting the world in a cooling phase so instead of hotter temperatures, the overall temperatures are cooler.

    • Increased frequency and intensity of bushfires.

    Eliminating arsonists, lightning, accidental and careless incidents, the biggest cause of voracious fires is the neglected overgrown undergrowth fuel in forests and national parks.

    • Increased risk of drought, and decreased predictability and reliability of rainfall, resulting in reduced water supply security and lower stream flows. • Change in rainfall seasonality.
    • Dry seasons (winter and spring) will become drier on average, while wet seasons (summer and autumn) will become wetter on average, and become dominated by more intense rainfall events.

    It’s called WEATHER! Mitigation by being ready when an extreme weather event happens is commonsense. However, it is a crime to waste rate payers’ money on eliminating CO2 when it is innocent of all charges and is, in fact, the planet’s life giving gas that is taken in by green plants and along with soil, water and sunlight creates oxygen (photosynthesis) for all living creatures to breath.

    • Sea levels are predicted to rise by 0.4m by 2050 and 0.9m by 2100 (above 1990 mean sea levels).
    • Increased frequency and depth of tidal inundation of low lying lands, and poor drainage in low lying areas.

    In Sydney Harbour, the tide marker at Fort Denison indicates that the high tide level has hardly changed in over two hundred years.

    • Increased frequency and intensity of severe storms, including floods.

    What evidence says there are more severe storms and floods? If the Council can’t back up these exaggerations of the weather and therefore putting the rate payers through unnecessary cost and worry FOR NOTHING, then the Council should do some serious research to bring them up to date.

    Key Priorities for Council
    • Reduce Council’s contribution to climate change by reducing greenhouse gas emissions from transport, electricity use, resource consumption and waste management.

    How noble of Council to advertise that they too will be reducing CO2 emissions from their operations. The rate payers just want to know HOW MUCH it’s going to cost? If all this money is being spent on climate change, how is there enough money left over for Council’s normal operations?

    • Secure the Tweed Shire drinking water supply for the near term and future generations.

    Good. This should be done, climate change or no climate change.

    • Develop a Council operations and community wide net zero emissions strategy for the Tweed Shire, including analysis and cost options to meet net zero emissions from Council’s operations by 2030.

    At last, the real deal… “Community wide net zero emissions strategy for the Tweed Shire”. This sounds like an expensive Consultant’s gig of which you will let the rate payers know – HOW MUCH for consultant’s fees and HOW MUCH for the overall cost of cleaning the Tweed Shire of CO2. Dear rate payers, have you ever heard of anything more ridiculous!?

    • Use projections of the impact of climate change on tidal inundation and coastal erosion to undertake asset vulnerability assessments and plan for predicted coastal hazard impacts on development and infrastructure.

    More consultants and more cost! How about Council look up old local records of historic coastal erosion and tidal inundation and produce their own report including mitigation. Natural coastal erosion and beach replenishment have been happening forever.

    • Reduce waste to landfill by consuming less, and by processing and diverting material for recovery and reuse.

    Council’s responsibility is to provide an efficient waste disposal system. Is “by consuming less” an edict upon the rate payers? Good luck with that. Does Council propose to streamline its purchases and labour practices?

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