Open Forum: June 27, 2020

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  1. rickw

    Zeducation unpersoned by reddit:

  2. Des Deskperson

    ‘Green activist defaces Dickens museum because Dickens was racist. Iron Maiden for this prick.’

    Well, there is a case against Dickens as a racist, even by the standards of his own time.

    As Christopher Hitchens pointed out, after the Indian Mutiny, he called for Indians to be exterminated. Hitchens quotes novelist and critic Peter Ackroyd: “it is not often that a great novelist recommends genocide”.

    Dickens is not the champion of the oppressed and the poor. The injustices he chronicles – real enough – are mostly those afficting the lower middle classes and the lumpen-bourgeoise.

  3. mh

    jon gabriel
    @exjon
    And… deleted as I expected. Don’t worry,
    @TheDemocrats; I saved it for you.

    https://twitter.com/exjon/status/1277796323362627587?s=20

  4. Arnost

    The final chapter of Hong Kong begins:

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3091119/hong-kong-national-security-law-passed-beijing-expected

    Beijing’s top legislative body has unanimously passed a sweeping national security law for Hong Kong prohibiting acts of secession, subversion, terrorism and collusion with foreign forces to endanger national security.

    The law, approved by the National People’s Congress Standing Committee (NPCSC) on Tuesday, is expected to carry a maximum penalty of life in jail.

    And that is how you handle protests. Any semblance of independence from Beijing is now gone. Kow tow to the masters… Xi Heil!

  5. MatrixTransform

    maybe being un-twittered, un-spazzBooked, un-personned, and un-friended is a step toward to normalcy

    I’m, dis-inclined to give a fuck which cyber-wankers don’t wanna be my friend

    they’re gonna look stupid when the power goes off and they’re standing there with their cock mouse in hand

  6. Cassie of Sydney

    “Des Deskperson
    #3500061, posted on June 30, 2020 at 7:09 pm”

    Gosh…perhaps we should start a bonfire to burn Dickens’ books.

  7. MatrixTransform

    we should start a bonfire to burn Dickens’ books

    that’s a euphemism for MMT right?

  8. Arnost

    It really is instructive on how the west allows violent protest [esp. by certain ethnic / socio-economic demographics] with little or no repercussions. The HK protests have been abt as non-violent as can be: You don’t see any broken widows let alone looting and arson. But the police/state violence against the HK protesters gets very little attention in the press. And now the HK right to protest is gone …. and there will be nary a whimper from the western media. Xi Heil!

  9. kaysee

    This video is around 38 minutes. If you don’t want to watch the entire video, skip to:
     
    2:30 to 3:50 Cops pull over black guy
     
    17:10 to 21:45 Trump’s speech at the UN in 2019
     

  10. DrBeauGan

    Scrooge’s Ba,humbug! ( humbug = bullshit) directed at Christmas sentimentality was prescient. I have never forgiven Dickens for having him convert to sickly sentiment.

  11. calli

    As Christopher Hitchens pointed out, after the Indian Mutiny, he called for Indians to be exterminated.

    No doubt after the stories emerged there was very strong feeling about the excesses of the Mutiny. The siege of Cawnpore comes to mind. Just as there was disgust and anger when the death camps were discovered in Germany, or the tales of the Burma railway.

    I don’t understand why you would cancel someone for a very natural response long ago.

  12. MemoryFault

    Anybody watched “A Score To Settle” with Nicholas Cage?
    Any good?

  13. cohenite

    Dickens is not the champion of the oppressed and the poor. The injustices he chronicles – real enough – are mostly those afficting the lower middle classes and the lumpen-bourgeoise.

    It’s well known that Dickens was sent by his lower middle class parents to a workhouse when he was young and that it had a lasting effect on him. Bleak House and Our Mutual friend are arguably the best descriptions of the plight of the poor in industrial England, with the rest of his latter novels not far behind.

    In any event Dickens is one of the top 5 novelists in English. The green activist who defaced his museum should have his hands cut off.

  14. BrettW

    There is an article at News.com about last nights Q&A and a question put to Communications Minister by a kid about cuts to ABC. Did not watch it but obviously the shows designated gotcha question.

    The article quotes comments by 2 viewers at home. One says :

    “Not that it is a surprise, but @LaTrioli is killing it on #qanda tonight”.

    That comment was made by Louise Milligan, famed ABC employee who wrote the book about Pell. The story fails to mention her ABC employment.

    The only other comment quoted was made by a proclaimed left leaning Labor member whose posts confirmed she is definitely very left.

    Whoever wrote that article either does not know of Milligan or chose to quote her knowing she is an ABC employee.

    Strange that a News article appears to be on the side of the ABC in relation to funding. Whoever wrote the article has probably already applied for job at ABC.

  15. DrBeauGan

    This video is around 38 minutes. If you don’t want to watch the entire video, skip to:

    2:30 to 3:50 Cops pull over black guy

    17:10 to 21:45 Trump’s speech at the UN in 2019

    Great clip, Kaysee. And much to the point. We really are seeing an attempt to destroy the West, and it is going to lead to massive bloodshed. I want to make sure it’s theirs, not ours.

  16. Pedro the Loafer

    Fake gold ingots filled with base metal can be detected easily with ultrasound, and little handheld testers can be had for $A4-500. These measure the dimensions of the ingot using soundwaves at a given mtrs/sec rate for the density of the tested metal.

    Tungsten and gold are very close in density and can fool an utrasound tester, particularly if the tungsten/gold ratio is small.

    The best fake gold ingots I have seen were 20% tungsten and skilfully manufactured using tiny pellets of tungsten mixed through the gold when poured.

    Melting your gold to its melting point (around 1100C) will seperate out any tungsten with its melting point at over 3400C. This is a foolproof method of ensuring purity, no gold is lost in the process, but as pointed out upthread this will destroy any collector value of minted bars, ingots or coins.

    The best protection against buying fake gold is to deal only through the Mint or reputable dealers.

  17. miltonf

    Strange that a News article appears to be on the side of the ABC in relation to funding. Whoever wrote the article has probably already applied for job at ABC.

    Not strange at all.

  18. kaysee

    ‘Encouraging racism’: Outrage over ‘disgraceful’ job ad

    A healthcare service provider has come under fire for a job advertisement requesting “no dark-skinned” candidates apply for the position.
     
    “We request no dark-skinned (Indian or African) applicants apply for this role (as per client request),” the advertisement read.
     
    Meenu Chandran, a care manager in the aged care sector from Geelong, was sent a screenshot of the ad by a friend and shared it to Facebook, labelling it a “disgrace” and calling on the company to “get your act together”
    .

    It is also clear from the ad, that the in-home support care worker is for an autistic client. And catering to the specific needs of such a client is now racism.

  19. Cassie of Sydney

    “In any event Dickens is one of the top 5 novelists in English. Agree.

    The green activist who defaced his museum should have his hands cut off.” Agree…but I would prefer the gallows.

  20. miltonf

    Sounds like a nasty nobody trying to make himself feel important.

  21. kaysee

    We really are seeing an attempt to destroy the West, and it is going to lead to massive bloodshed. I want to make sure it’s theirs, not ours.

    DrBG, we have to hope that those on the other side who still possess some sense, will see what is happening and cross over.

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    Tell you what.

    Aside from the occasional snipe at Black Plague Cruise Lines, I don’t take too much notice of stock markets and the like.

    But on the way back home with a surprisingly good pizza, the radio noos said Afterpay, from being at $8.00 in March has monstered its way up the charts to its current point at $61.

  23. Cassie of Sydney

    “BrettW
    #3500082, posted on June 30, 2020 at 7:39 pm
    There is an article at News.com”

    How can you read it? News.com is left-wing garbage….and as for…

    “Whoever wrote that article either does not know of Milligan or chose to quote her knowing she is an ABC employee.

    Strange that a News article appears to be on the side of the ABC in relation to funding. Whoever wrote the article has probably already applied for job at ABC.”

    No..not strange…they are all activists and they all sing from the same far-left progressive hymn sheet.

  24. DrBeauGan

    If a man, for whatever reason, wants a secretary who is blonde and has big tits, he should be free to advertise his desiderata. Preventing him from doing so won’t stop him, it merely wastes the time of him and a large number of those who don’t qualify.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The best protection against buying fake gold is to deal only through the Mint or reputable dealers.

    Just ask the Mickleberg brothers.

  26. Qld pub industry comes out of shutdown at Twelve Noon on Friday.

    There are many issues with this. (I should write a book)

    First hiccup is a corker:
    Like many things, the safe hasn’t been opened for more than Three months.

    Anybody able to remember the combination to the safe?

  27. miltonf

    We really are seeing an attempt to destroy the West, and it is going to lead to massive bloodshed. I want to make sure it’s theirs, not ours.
    It’s been a 60 year project at least- for some reason, they’ve decided to come right out into the open although the ones pulling the strings are still in the shadows.

  28. Knuckle Dragger

    Some discussion earlier, apropos of using the word ‘Aboriginal’ to describe Aboriginals.

    As someone said, I have no doubt the genesis of this particular fainting couch episode was Queensland, and in particular ATSIC who were the biggest bunch of modern day pirates going around.

    Nobody remembered to tell the NT though. The NT Gummint site has 200 subheadings containing the A word.

    That’s aside from tourism. And mining. And ag. And sport. And kulcha, which is riddled with that word which sparks seizures in the white urban indig yet is favoured by actual blackfellas.

    Oh, and – ‘half-caste’ is a thing too. You can say that. You can even shorten it to ‘halfie’, as the halfies do when speaking to whitey or themselves.

  29. H B Bear

    Strange that a News article appears to be on the side of the ABC in relation to funding. Whoever wrote the article has probably already applied for job at ABC.

    JournoLotto. You’ve got to be in it to win it.

  30. Herodotus

    Via Mark Latham:
    “Matt Kean, Minister for Energy and Environment, has announced the Government’s record land purchase of 153,415-hectares of private property in the state’s remote north west to be turned into national park as part of his target goal of 200,000 hectares by the end of his term, he says, in order to protect the state’s threatened species.

    What was the purchasing price? What ‘expert’ modelling was done as evidence this land will generate revenue for NSW? How much water will be needed in times of drought? Who in their lifetime will visit this national park?

    Right now small businesses are struggling and we may not see the full effects of recession until jobkeeper ends.”

  31. Mitch M.

    A healthcare service provider has come under fire for a job advertisement requesting “no dark-skinned” candidates apply for the position.

    What’s the problem? Clearly the position is reserved for the disadvantaged, in this case albinos.

  32. Bar Beach Swimmer

    The Australian Government Solicitor is paid handsomely to tell the Prime Minister “No, you cannot do that” when it is necessary to do so

    When is it necessary to do so?

    Does he get to proffer his advice without any prompting or does he have to wait until he’s asked for it?

  33. Mark A

    .and despite being accused of being a “drama queen”

    Far from it, pay no attention. Forthright and forceful if needed but drama queen?
    Ridiculous.

    (there were and occasionally are a couple though on this forum but not you, that’s for sure)

  34. Geriatric Mayfly

    Slowly shuffling off the clogs, I thought it fit not to die as a registered Philistine. Never having read Dickens, for some obscure, illogical bias; I took up Bleak House. The weepy women and weepy men aside, I emerged at the conclusion with a revitalised love for the spells that written language can cast and an even greater appreciation for the complex weft and warp of the human fabric

  35. Boambee John

    Anybody able to remember the combination to the safe?

    There’s a bloke near Canberra, buys old, locked, public service safes and opens them so he can give classified documents “accidentally” locked in them to Their ABC. He might be able to help. Tell him there are secret Defence documents in it.

  36. MemoryFault

    It’s been a 60 year project at least-

    Closer to 75 years. Started right after WWII and was formalised with the establishmant of the UKUSA Pact around 1955.

    for some reason, they’ve decided to come right out into the open

    No choice. Climate change – cooling not warming – cut in with a vengeance far faster than they anticipated following the start of the Grand Solar Minimum in 2004.

  37. cohenite

    Just when you thought this whole saga was over, a petition to fire Cambridge professor Priyamvada Gopal, who was promoted after tweeting that “White Lives Don’t Matter”, has been removed by Change.org after receiving over 20,000 signatures.

  38. Boambee John

    Does he get to proffer his advice without any prompting or does he have to wait until he’s asked for it?

    Worked for a fairly senior boss in Defence many years ago. There were complaints about the hard nosed attitude of the head of the admin branch. His response was “I need him in that position, he is prepared to say ‘No’ to me”.

    A good boss is willing to hear good advice. Our ignoble leaders, less so.

  39. MemoryFault

    Time for tonight’s movie.

  40. DrBeauGan

    A good boss is willing to hear good advice. Our ignoble leaders, less so.

    Quite so. Anyone with sense wants to be told when he’s wrong. And persuaded, if he is, that he is. Only insecure fools hire sycophants.

  41. DrBeauGan

    It’s been a 60 year project at least- for some reason, they’ve decided to come right out into the open although the ones pulling the strings are still in the shadows

    I’m not given to conspiracy theories, or to apophenia in general. But it’s become too obvious to ignore these days. It’s the end of the West if we don’t focus hearts and minds on it.

  42. Johno

    MV, it is a very,very bad movie. It just kinda ambled along not knowing where it was going or what it was going to do when it got there. Garbage.

  43. Cassie of Sydney

    “It’s the end of the West if we don’t focus hearts and minds on it.”

    Don’t forget….ACTION.

  44. Cassie of Sydney

    “ohenite
    #3500122, posted on June 30, 2020 at 8:10 pm
    Just when yoCu thought this whole saga was over, a petition to fire Cambridge professor Priyamvada Gopal, who was promoted after tweeting that “White Lives Don’t Matter”, has been removed by Change.org after receiving over 20,000 signatures.”

    Of course it has….the left have infiltrated everywhere and everything….and yet we’re told we must be nice and polite.

  45. MemoryFault

    You are right, Johno.
    I lasted 20 minutes.
    Undercover Grandpa next.

  46. Anybody able to remember the combination to the safe?

    There’s a bloke near Canberra, buys old, locked, public service safes and opens them so he can give classified documents “accidentally” locked in them to Their ABC. He might be able to help. Tell him there are secret Defence documents in it.

    Very funny.
    This one may be a touch difficult to open. She’s rated “24-hour”
    It’d be worthwhile opening though.

    Nobody is ever going to be able open it without the combination.

    The combination will come back to mind, hopefully. I’ve got another day or so to recall the code. For the life of me I cannot recall a single number.

  47. Des Deskperson

    ‘Bleak House and Our Mutual friend are arguably the best descriptions of the plight of the poor in industrial England,’

    Cohenite, doubtless you are a better Dickens scholar than me, but I recall only one novel – Hard Times – that is actually set in the England of the industrial revolution, and the main focus of that novel is the Untilitarian system of education rather than conditions in the mills.

    There is only one industrial worker in all of Dickens’ novels – Hard Times’ Steven Blackpool. There are no miners, no agricultural labourers. Dickens’ poor are mostly down and out members of the middle class, not the industrial proletariate. David Copperfield’s main beef when he is sent to work as a child in a bottle-cleaning factory – hardly your dangerous, industrial scale cotton mill – is that he was forced to mix with low companions.

    I don’t want Dickens’s book burned but I think his flaws need to be recognised.

  48. shatterzzz

    If a man, for whatever reason, wants a secretary who is blonde and has big tits, he should be free to advertise his desiderata. Preventing him from doing so won’t stop him, it merely wastes the time of him and a large number of those who don’t qualify.
    Reminds me of a job I applied for in a Sydney advertising office way back in the ’80s .. woman who interviewed me was straightforward .. “Your qualifications and experience are exactly what we are after BUT, unfortunately, everyone in this firm is female .. we only employ women except we aren’t allowed to say that by law” .. Mind they did cover the travel expenses .. LOL!

  49. Steve trickler

    Long thread as Pete pointed out….



  50. areff

    Is Antiques Roadshow the best show on the tellie?

    It’s #3, behind Aussie Gold Hunters and Naked and Afraid

  51. Pedro the Loafer

    I gave away using iron sights when senility crept in and started to affect my once eagle eyed vision. The genius who invented telescopic sights, possibly called Karl Zeiss Leupold or similar gave us oldies the ability to see and hit our targets far, far away and prevent gilded yoofs deriding our shooting skills.

    rickw’s video above uses way too many words to to describe the iron sight shooter’s mantra:

    “Centre the rear sight the foresight and the target, focus on the foresight and fire the instant the sight picture is correct”

    Thus preacheth the Grand Master, Colonel Jeff Cooper.

  52. areff

    I think his flaws need to be recognised.

    His chief flaw is that he was paid by the word and, boy, does it show

  53. Tel

    Closer to 75 years. Started right after WWII and was formalised with the establishmant of the UKUSA Pact around 1955.

    United Nations started in 1942, many people think it started in 1945 but after the war was over, fewer people would have wanted to sign on, which is why it was necessary to sign them up while the war was still in progress.

  54. MatrixTransform

    Nobody is ever going to be able open it without the combination.

    you should watch some locksmith videos on youTube.

    A mate gave me a 6 pin padlock that he pays a $100 for to lock site tool boxes, ladders etc
    I had it picked before we had walked from the bar to the car park.

  55. notafan

    Sounds like Dickens wrote what he knew/interested him.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If a man, for whatever reason, wants a secretary who is blonde and has big tits, he should be free to advertise his desiderata.

    I know a bloke wot knows a bloke who was sprung, not for the first time, discussing comparative anatomy with his secretary. The marriage survived, but his wife insisted on hiring his secretaries, and the successful candidates could best be described as “plain.”

  57. candy

    Dickens’ characters are what makes him such a wonderful author.

    To my mind, I don’t think the social issues are that important. David Copperfield the boy not wanted by a new stepfather and his mother dies, and sent out on his own, etc. More the human condition that people relate to in his characters. Abandonment, unrequited love, friendship, the usual.

  58. Pedro the Loafer

    Geez areff.
    I sincerely hope you are pulling the piss rating Aussie Gold Hunters in your top TeeVee shows.

    It takes all my willpower to prevent throwing a brick through my TV when I see those wankers on Aussie Gold Hunters pull up in their Landcruiser, swing a detector for about 30 seconds and come up with a $5ooo nugget, then start yodelling “we’re on the gold!!!!” and promptly pick up a couple more.

    FMD.

  59. Cassie of Sydney

    “I don’t want Dickens’s book burned but I think his flaws need to be recognised.”

    Oh how jolly decent of you DD….Oh and Dickens’ flaws have been well known…for over a century…not least his problem with women. I’m glad you’re not our chief censor.

  60. Cassie of Sydney

    “candy
    #3500163, posted on June 30, 2020 at 9:05 pm
    Dickens’ characters are what makes him such a wonderful author.”

    Agree.

  61. mh

    The anti Dickens mob won’t be protesting the Fagin character.

  62. rickw

    CHAZ police most probably summarily executed a black man, after shooting up the wrong SUV, 14 year old black boy in intensive care:

  63. miltonf

    I loved Great Expectations. Made a big impression on me. Satis House, Estella.

  64. MatrixTransform

    What locks do you recommend?

    dont have a recommendation.
    I just pick ’em for fun.
    Started because I lost a key to the padlock on the boat trailer.

  65. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Centre the rear sight the foresight and the target, focus on the foresight and fire the instant the sight picture is correct”

    I could never remember that sequence, which is why the system gave me an M60 to carry.

  66. rickw

    I sincerely hope you are pulling the piss rating Aussie Gold Hunters in your top TeeVee shows.

    Pedro, Americans seriously love the show, many l know would love to go prospecting in OZ.

    Pedro’s down under gold digging tours?!

    (Maybe the name needs work, you might end up with two lots of very different takers!)

  67. Nobody is ever going to be able open it without the combination.

    you should watch some locksmith videos on youTube.
    A mate gave me a 6 pin padlock that he pays a $100 for to lock site tool boxes, ladders etc
    I had it picked before we had walked from the bar to the car park.

    I’ll give it a go.
    This one weighs a tonne & is “24hour” rated.
    So the only way into it is to open it legitimately.
    I don’t know how easy it would be to get into, I’d imagine a locksmith wouldn’t be slowed down for real long.

    I’ll get into it coz the combo will come back to me. It’s slipped from mind coz Three months since I’ve spun the numbers.

  68. mh

    Sometimes we need to be reminded of the truth

  69. Whoever said Anastacia Palachuk is a moron:

    Keep in mind, this is the woman who had absolutely no idea what rate is GST in Australia.

    Moron = does not begin to describe how much of a dumbarse she is.

  70. DrBeauGan

    I don’t like Dickens. He sells sentimentalism by the bucket load, and I’m a cold, heartless bastard. Scrooge, in his pre-nightmare condition is my hero.

  71. This is funny. I guess throwing Molotov cocktails (including at women and children in occupied police married quarters) invading and trashing restaurants as the customers fled, smashing multiple shop windows, damaging the underground on an almost daily basis, blocking roads and tunnels is a peaceful way to protest.

    Police “violence” was very well recorded and those media outlets not on the side of the protesters risked being turned on. Shopping centres that allowed police in or out were threatened online.

    Well the protesters got what they provoked. The new security law takes effect tomorrow which would normally be a day of protest as it is the anniversary of the handover. I understand they even get to choose the judges who hear any cases based on the new laws. I note some pro democracy leaders have already resigned from their party.

    Having said that I would love nothing more than see Hong Kong be independent, which is one of the protesters demands. However anybody who believes that was acheivable is delusional. China had no choice but to take strong action after the considerable damage to the economy and China’s reputation caused by several months of protests.

    Sad to see what has happened.

    “The HK protests have been abt as non-violent as can be: You don’t see any broken widows let alone looting and arson. But the police/state violence against the HK protesters gets very little attention in the press. And now the HK right to protest is gone …. and there will be nary a whimper from the western media. Xi Heil!”.

  72. Knuckle Dragger

    Sal, just remember this:

    8675309

    867530-niiieeeeine

    Repeat until you are dead.

  73. rickw

    If a man, for whatever reason, wants a secretary who is blonde and has big tits, he should be free to advertise his desiderata.

    Place I worked at had the most gorgeous Lebanese girl doing stock control, she was not particularly good at anything, she did however eventually find her niche, pumping out mini versions of herself. She told me about her interview:

    Paul was the one who interviewed me, I sat down, he put a pen and paper in front of me. I asked him what it was for, thinking it was some sort of aptitude test, Paul the says “your hired!”

  74. KD, I’ve got at least Seven safes with combinations. (sometimes I wonder if I’m a pub or a locksmithery)
    I plain don’t remember them all.
    But the main safe is in daily use & I never imagined there’d be a hope in hell of forgetting it.
    I’ve not been to it for Three months & the combo has slipped my mind.
    It’ll come back to me. (I hope)
    It’s a distraction though.
    There are a million things to be done. Three days notice is insufficient (effectively two full days)

  75. Knuckle Dragger

    Heh.

    Latham just deeeeee-stroyed socialist councillor Nicholas Reece on PML.

  76. rickw

    Pretty decent news report on Chicom land:

  77. Pedro the Loafer

    I have spent many moons in the gold mining and exploration game and have lived in WA’s goldfields and surrounds for much of that time.

    I have done a lot of amateur prospecting during down time from my paying work, (not much else to do when you are living in a donga in the middle of nowhere) and I reckon I have a pretty good eye for the proper geology and so forth for detecting alluvial gold.

    Mixed fortunes doing that. I have gone months without finding enough to pay the fuel bill and on very, very rare occasions have come across a patch that has yielded some serious gold. The best individual nugget I have ever picked up weighed just under eight Troy Oz, but this was an exceptionally lucky find.

    Even making allowances for cinematic dramatic licence on that Aussie Gold Hunters it is so full of bullshit that it is beyond belief.

    Still, if it sells to gullible city bound audiences, good luck to them. PT Barnum had a saying, I believe.

  78. cohenite

    Cohenite, doubtless you are a better Dickens scholar than me

    Probably not. Dickens dealt with the whole social spectrum and while he concentrated on London he also covered the country-side and other locations, Great Expectations, A Tale of Two Cities.

    He was a great symbolist and his characters appear to be grotesques but they always have a universality. I like the names: Uriah Heep, Micawber, Nicholas Nickelby, Chuzzlewit, Krook.

    The lowlife who defaced him should have some of those names tattooed on his bloated body.

  79. Knuckle Dragger

    Hahahahaaaaaa – the West Australian’s headline:

    ‘Sicktoria’

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    So, ‘we’re on the gold’ isn’t a thing.

    K.

    *deletes from vocabulary*

  81. JC

    Loafer

    A few years ago I met a dude who made a lot of money as a gold miner in WA. I just met him a few times and the last I saw of him was at a New Years party about 3 or so years ago. He lives in Monaco for most of the year and comes back here for Xmas. The last time I saw his wife just died. He also has Italian heritage. Do you know him?

  82. Mark A

    I’ll get into it coz the combo will come back to me. It’s slipped from mind coz Three months since I’ve spun the numbers.

    Far be it from me to criticize others, but not having a back-up for vital data be it on a comp HD or a safe combination number is just sloppy/careless housekeeping.

  83. DrBeauGan

    Far be it from me to criticize others, but not having a back-up for vital data be it on a comp HD or a safe combination number is just sloppy/careless housekeeping.

    Sure. You have a secure safe with a combination lock. So naturally, you record the combination. Preferably on a postit note next to the safe.

  84. Boambee John

    Once worked in an office that had multiple combination locked safes. Everyone memorised the combo of one, in which was a list of all the other combos.

    As a mental exercise, I worked on remembering the lot, which I finally did.

    Then the boss decided it was time to change all the combinations!

  85. Zyconoclast

    Whoever said Anastacia Palachuk is a moron:

    Keep in mind, this is the woman who had absolutely no idea what rate is GST in Australia.

    Moron = does not begin to describe how much of a dumbarse she is.

    How would you describe the dumbarsedness of the Qld electorate?

  86. DrBeauGan

    And we’re all supposed to memorise two hundred different passwords of not less than two hundred characters half of them in ogham or babylonic cuneiform. Yeah, that will keep everything secure.

    There’s a reason they all have a ‘forgotten your password’ button.

  87. Pedro the Loafer

    JC, a hell of a lot of your countrymen came to the Goldfields as far back as the 1890’s to make their fortune grubbing for gold. Many of the descendants are still in the game and still making their fortunes. Have a squiz at the Kalgoorlie Boulder White Pages and see the number of Italian names listed.

    The great thing about the old Italian goldminers was that never told the government (or anyone else outside the immediate family) how much they had had recovered or where their mine was located.

    Love that “up yours” attitude.

  88. Gab

    Koalas are so endangered the Victorian government has been culling them.

    And the suburbs are overrun with those stinking possums. Some are larger than Jack Russells.
    How about culling them?!!! Do something useful, Lame Dan.

  89. MatrixTransform

    There’s a reason they all have a ‘forgotten your password’ button

    we hand out passwords to all sorts of people.
    default passwords usually

    and we use a mnemonic trick to work out what that password will be.

    if the password hint is ‘bang’, or ‘trig’ or dunk5 …

    I know the password

  90. Top Ender

    …after the Indian Mutiny, he called for Indians to be exterminated

    Yes, so did a lot of Brits, after Cawnpore Well and other atrocities became known. Around 120 women and children were murdered and thrown down that well.

  91. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #3500198, posted on June 30, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    Sure. You have a secure safe with a combination lock. So naturally, you record the combination. Preferably on a postit note next to the safe

    Sorry Dr BG but you lost me this time.
    There is a first time for everything.

    Where does the post it sticker comes into this?
    There are a million more secure ways to store info.

  92. jupes

    Pedro next time you’re in Perth let me know and I’ll shout you a tour of the mint.

    I might even learn something.

  93. Pedro the Loafer

    BTW, for JC.
    One of your mob, one Modesto “Charlie” Varischetti is a legend in the WA Goldfields.

    He was trapped in a rockfall in an underground goldmine in Bonnievale (WA, near Coolgardie) in 1907.

    The successful rescue of Charlie is the stuff of legends.

    Short version here: Miraculous Rescue!

  94. egg_

    RMS Sicktoria, with the Hunchback at the helm.

  95. Whoever said Anastacia Palachuk is a moron:
    Keep in mind, this is the woman who had absolutely no idea what rate is GST in Australia.
    Moron = does not begin to describe how much of a dumbarse she is.

    How would you describe the dumbarsedness of the Qld electorate?

    I can’t find a word to describe the Qld voteherd.

    This is as close as I can get: Dumbarse (cubed x 3)

  96. if the password hint is ‘bang’, or ‘trig’ or dunk5 …

    I know the password

    If I told my business partner the password was ‘dunk23’

    …he’d know what the password was too

  97. Pedro the Loafer

    Thanks for the offer, jupes. BTDT.

    I take visitors to Kings Park, the Belltower, and the Mint. Duty requires it.

    The Grosvenor just across the road is a far more attractive option.

    Nowadays I take visitors to the back paddock at Casa Pedro and let the bastard Dorpers give them the evil eye and show them the beasts expertise in smashing down fences.

  98. Far be it from me to criticize others, but not having a back-up for vital data be it on a comp HD or a safe combination number is just sloppy/careless housekeeping.

    Yeah, it’d be a good idea to keep a small zip-up folder case prominently on my desk, labelled:

    Combination to safe, also all passwords & stuff
    Then after the next Three months of lockdown I wouldn’t have the experience of discovering I’ve forgotten the combo to the safe.

  99. JC

    Thanks Loafer.

    I met the dude through a pal, who ran a large mining firm and he introduced me. My friend told me how the dude has a private jet parked in Europe and only uses it there. And as I said , he lives the warmer months in Monte Carlo. According to my friend, the goldminer is a legend out west as he started from scratch and made an absolute fortune. All the big mining dudes seems to know him. Funny old world.

  100. JC

    Driller,

    You could keep the combo in your wallet or you could have it tattooed on your forehead in reverse will able to get a clear view in the mirror.

  101. Mark A

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3500223, posted on June 30, 2020 at 10:32 pm

    Yeah, it’d be a good idea to keep a small zip-up folder case prominently on my desk, labelled:

    “Combination to safe, also all passwords & stuff”
    Then after the next Three months of lockdown I wouldn’t have the experience of discovering I’ve forgotten the combo to the safe.

    I’m sorry to say this but both you and Dr BG either didn’t or don’t want to understand what I said.
    Or just playing dumb?

    Keeping a secure backup of your important data is just that, keep it “SECURE”, may even be a security box in the bank, not a yellow sticker or a notebook on your desk.

    I’m starting to think someone has a more accurate measure of you than I do.

    Sheesh!

  102. MemoryFault

    How would you describe the dumbarsedness of the Qld electorate?

    Be reasonable guys.
    When the choice is between a bunch of lying, thieving, power mad morons, and a bunch of lying, thieving, wannabe power mad idiots, it gets difficult.

  103. Infidel Tiger King

    Zoom and Tik Tok should both be banned on national security grounds.

  104. Pedro the Loafer

    JC.

    There are a lot of Italian heritage mining millionaires around the traps, but I think the bloke you are referring to is Tony B.

    Met him a few times over recent years. Way, way out of my class. Billionaire (with a ‘B’) I think.

  105. Mark A: Ffs, do you think there’s no record of the combo.
    I just need to remember where it is kept & how it is disguised.
    As Dr. BG says, the purpose of a locked safe is somewhat negated if the combo is easily found.

    Which is why the piece of paper with the combo on it is kept locked inside the safe. 😉

  106. JC

    Just watched it.Wedding Crashers has to be one of the funniest movies of all time. It was released in 2005 and Jane Seymour would have been 54 then. Even at this age she looked great.

  107. egg_

    I’d love to see a spoof of one of SloMo’s National Cabinet meetings – Sammy J’s done a reasonable one, in his Footy Coach persona.

  108. jupes

    The Grosvenor just across the road is a far more attractive option.

    My local. I’ll shout you a beer next time you’re in the big smoke.

  109. Top Ender

    Breaking….

    Australia will deploy an anti-ballistic missile defence shield for the first time, as well as land, sea and air based long-range and hypersonic strike missiles, to project military power to the region and defend against “adversaries” seeking to launch attacks from targets such as the South China Sea.

    In the most significant shift in the nation’s military posture in decades, Scott Morrison on Wednesday will announce a $270bn 10-year defence plan including “lethal” naval and air warfare capability as well as the first land-based long-range missile defence systems. It will include the development with the US of a missile defence shield against ballistic missile attack as well as potential long-range missile technology of up to several thousand kilometres to protect shipping lanes across the region.

    Anti-submarine warfare, space-based intelligence and battlefield capability and underwater surveillance technology will also be developed.

  110. K2

    If I walked down to shops near where I work in regional Vic, and asked 50 random people who the state opposition leader is, I would bet my life 45 would not know.

    No media presence. And not by accident. Thus the sheeple will be more inclined to vote for Chairman Dan, if only because they know who he is.

    The same might be the case in Qld. I don’t know.

  111. Top Ender

    The plan calls for advanced air-warfare capacity, combat drones, long-range naval missile strike ability, and “sovereign”-owned military satellites with ground-based signals intelligence facilities.

    The dramatic escalation in Australia’s missile defence and deterrence capability will take ¬annual defence spending beyond the 2 per cent of GDP committed to in 2013, and comes as the Prime Minister warns of the deterioration in the strategic situation in the Indo-Pacific since the 2016 defence white paper.

    Between $168bn and $183bn will be spent on upgrades to Navy and Army fleets and $5bn-$7bn on undersea surveillance systems including hi-tech sensors. Between $6.2bn and $9.3bn will also be spent on developing “high speed long range strike” and hypersonic missile technology as well as an estimated $400m-$500m in long-range maritime strike missiles, including the joint strike missile capable of low level flight up to 500km.

    A further $10bn-$17bn investment will be made in fighter aircraft, signalling the possible expansion of the JSF acquisition program, and $5bn for an expanded long range air launched strike capability. A $1bn investment will be made in Operational Radar Network expansion, while $70bn will be spent on increased combat power for army and land based forces, drone vehicles and long range rocket artillery.

    The specific platforms have yet to be decided and would need to go through a thorough defence procurement process

    No subs cancelled though.

  112. Top Ender

    Can we have 24 Virginia-class subs from the USA too please.

    And three Nimitz class aircraft carriers.

    And a few thousand USN personnel to get them started?

  113. I’d love to see a spoof of one of SloMo’s National Cabinet meetings –

    No need.
    A real meeting would be good enough.

  114. JC

    Loafer..

    His name escapes me, but I’ll ask my pal tomorrow. My friend told me he was the biggest private gold miner in the country and yea he said, the dude was worth around the big B.

    Tons of respect for guys like you and him. They don’t go looking around for money on the stock exchange and just want to do it on your own. That takes a lot of guts.

  115. If I walked down to shops …and asked 50 random people who the state opposition leader is… 45 would not know.
    The same might be the case in Qld. I don’t know.

    It is the same.

  116. Everything Top Ender said in his immediate past Three posted comments.

  117. MemoryFault

    Mark A,

    Any chance of “lame pics” a bit early tonight?
    It’s been an emotionally and physically challenging few days, and I’m exhausted.
    I need to hit the hay, but I also need my nightly fix of funnies before I go.

  118. JC

    That’s a pretty big story, Ender.

    There was must a lot of shit going on in the undergrowth we’re not hearing about that would prompt a nominally docile government to begin looking at shit like that let alone talk specifics.

    Thank God our defense has a strong diversity policy. Imagine if only men were in the ADF.

  119. JC

    Driller

    Ender doesn’t need your fucking plussing and minusing. His posts stand up for themselves, so STFU and go clean the bar.

  120. No subs cancelled though.

    This does though, give some comfort that there’s at least a chance of that happening.
    Wouldn’t be at all surprising to learn there’s some serious back-channel straight talk to the Frogs going on regards the future of the Croissant Class submarines.

  121. mh

    Liberty Quote
    I come really, really hard against 45

    Jussie Smollett

  122. Megan

    I’d love to see a spoof of one of SloMo’s National Cabinet meetings

    If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be ‘meetings.’

    Meetings are an addictive, highly self indulgent activity tat corporations and other organizations habitually engage in only because they cannot actually masturbate. ~Dave Barry~

  123. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Well, there is a case against Dickens as a racist, even by the standards of his own time.

    As Christopher Hitchens pointed out, after the Indian Mutiny, he called for Indians to be exterminated. Hitchens quotes novelist and critic Peter Ackroyd: “it is not often that a great novelist recommends genocide”.

    Dickens is not the champion of the oppressed and the poor. The injustices he chronicles – real enough – are mostly those afficting the lower middle classes and the lumpen-bourgeoise

    First, what happened to historical context?

    Dickens was born in 1812 and died in 1870. In 1812 Napoleon invades Russia. George III was still on the throne. There was no universal (male) franchise. (From Wikipedia) ‘The Middleton Railway, serving coal pits at Leeds in England, becomes the first to use steam locomotives successfully in regular service.’

    In 1870 (From Wikipedia) ‘Louis Pasteur and Robert Koch establish the germ theory of disease.‘ and in Australia, ‘Introduced rabbits reach the New South Wales border.‘

    Second, what is racism? Is it a personal dislike of another distinctive group? Or is it deliberately causing actual cruelty and physical harm to another person because of their personal physical characteristics, which identify traits common at the group level?

    Unless Dickens himself was personally responsible for actual cruel treatment of another person, whether his contemporaries claimed that he was racist or held racist views, should be of no account, except as background biographical information of his life and times.

    Mary Wollstonecraft, being a champion of women’s rights would have been at odds with many male contemporaries. Again, interesting in the biographical or literary sense to understand the author’s subject matter and writing demeanour.

    But brandishing claims of racism or perhaps female hysteria, which was fully believed of in earlier times, against long dead writers/artists/politicians is not being done in the main to examine and analyse their work. It is being done to irreparably damage Western society by undermining everything from which Western thought is derived.

    What matters is that over time change did occur and progress has been made. Okay, some people were ahead of the pack and they deserve recognition for making the case for change – people like Wilberforce and here in Australia Arthur Philip – while others were more conventional to their times. However from what has occurred over recent days is that they all are in the sights of the mob.

  124. stackja

    Critics pile in to multicultural broadcaster for having an all-white leadership team
    Some former employees of SBS have spoken out about their experiences working at the public broadcaster, with one calling it “deeply racist.”

    Matthew Benns, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    June 30, 2020 8:19pm

    Multicultural broadcaster SBS has come under fire from its own journalists for failing the diversity test with a completely white leadership team.

    SBS managing director James Taylor last night conceded the taxpayer-funded TV channel “still has a way to go” to reflect the diversity of its intended audience “among our senior leadership team”.

    The criticism erupted on social media after former journalist and now Mystery Road screenwriter Kodie Bedford described having her “self-esteem destroyed” during her time working at the supposedly-diverse broadcaster.

    “I still carry trauma and feel sick about it,” she said on Twitter, before adding yesterday: “I’m not bitter towards SBS either. But the system is still broken.”

    SBS Homecoming Queens screenwriter Michelle Law ­responded by posting a photograph of the SBS leadership team on Twitter with the caption: “What in White hell @SBS”.

    The eight member government appointed SBS board includes the chair of the indigenous media peak body Dorothy West and people of Greek, Italian and Indian heritage. But the internally appointed leadership team has no ethnic diversity.

    Musician and academic on indigenous languages Dr Lou Bennett responded to the photo of the leadership team on Twitter saying: “Jesus, Mary n Joseph that’s a white wash.”

    Another wrote: “I thought I was going mad when I worked there, felt like no one else saw it or if they did, were quiet about it. Sad thing is, has been like that for ages.”

  125. Top Ender

    Sorry for misleading you, but I cried wolf on the global dangers of climate change
    MICHAEL SHELLENBERGER

    On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologise for the climate scare we created over the past 30 years. Climate change is happening. It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem.

    I may seem like a strange person to be saying all of this. I have been a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30.

    But as an energy expert asked by the US congress to provide objective testimony, and invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to serve as a reviewer of its next assessment report, I feel an obligation to apologise for how badly we environmentalists have misled the public.

    Here are some facts few people know: Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”;

    The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”;

    Climate change is not making natural disasters worse;

    Fires have declined 25 per cent around the world since 2003;

    The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska;

    The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California;

    Carbon emissions are declining in most rich nations and have been declining in Britain, Germany and France since the mid-1970s;

    The Netherlands became rich, not poor, while adapting to life below sea level;

    We produce 25 per cent more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter;

    Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change;

    Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels;

    Preventing future pandemics requires more, not less, “industrial” agriculture.

    I know the above facts will sound like “climate denialism” to many people. But that just shows the power of climate alarmism. In reality, the above facts come from the best-available scientific studies, including those ­conducted by or accepted by the IPCC, the Food and Agriculture Organisation of the United Nations, the Inter­national Union for the Conservation of Nature and other leading scientific bodies.

    Some people will, when they read this, imagine that I’m some right-wing anti-environmentalist. I’m not. At 17, I lived in Nicaragua to show solidarity with the Sandinista socialist revolution. At 23 I raised money for Guatemalan women’s co-operatives. In my early 20s I lived in the semi-Amazon doing research with small farmers fighting land invasions. At 26 I helped expose poor conditions at Nike factories in Asia.

    Green beginnings

    I became an environmentalist at 16 when I threw a fundraiser for Rainforest Action Network. At 27 I helped save the last unprotected ancient redwoods in California. In my 30s I advocated renewables and successfully helped persuade the Obama administration to ­invest $US90bn into them. Over the past few years I helped save enough nuclear plants from being replaced by fossil fuels to prevent a sharp increase in emissions.

    But until last year, I mostly avoided speaking out against the climate scare. Partly that’s because I was embarrassed. After all, I am as guilty of alarmism as any other environmentalist. For years, I ­referred to climate change as an “existential” threat to human civilisation, and called it a “crisis”.

    But mostly I was scared. I remained quiet about the climate disinformation campaign because I was afraid of losing friends and funding. The few times I summoned the courage to defend climate science from those who misrepresent it I suffered harsh consequences. And so I mostly stood by and did next to nothing as my fellow environmentalists terrified the public.

    I even stood by as people in the White House and many in the media tried to destroy the reputation and career of an outstanding scientist, good man, and friend of mine, Roger Pielke Jr, a lifelong progressive Democrat and environmentalist who testified in favour of carbon regulations. Why did they do that? Because his ­research proves natural disasters aren’t getting worse. But then, last year, things spiralled out of control. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said: “The world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.” Britain’s most high-profile environmental group claimed “climate change kills children”.

    Turning point

    The world’s most influential green journalist, Bill McKibben, called climate change the “greatest challenge humans have ever faced” and said it would “wipe out civilisations”. Mainstream journalists ­reported, repeatedly, that the Amazon was “the lungs of the world”, and that deforestation was like a ­nuclear bomb going off.

    As a result, half of the people surveyed around the world last year said they thought climate change would make humanity ­extinct. And in January, one out of five British children told pollsters they were having nightmares about climate change.

    Whether or not you have children you must see how wrong this is. I admit I may be sensitive because I have a teenage daughter. After we talked about the science she was reassured. But her friends are deeply misinformed and thus, understandably, frightened.

    I thus decided I had to speak out. I knew that writing a few articles wouldn’t be enough. I needed a book to properly lay out all of the evidence. And so my formal ­apology for our fearmongering comes in the form of my new book, Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All.

    It is based on two decades of research and three decades of environmental activism. At 400 pages, with 100 of them endnotes, Apocalypse Never covers climate change, deforestation, plastic waste, species extinction, industrialisation, meat, nuclear energy, and renewables.

    Some highlights from the book:

    ● Factories and modern farming are the keys to human liberation and environmental progress.

    ● The most important thing for saving the environment is producing more food, particularly meat, on less land.

    ● The most important thing for reducing pollution and emissions is moving from wood to coal to petrol to natural gas to uranium.

    ● 100 per cent renewables would require increasing the land used for energy from today’s 0.5 per cent to 50 per cent.

    ● We should want cities, farms, and power plants to have higher, not lower, power densities.

    ● Vegetarianism reduces one’s emissions by less than 4 per cent.

    ● Greenpeace didn’t save the whales — switching from whale oil to petroleum and palm oil did.

    ● “Free-range” beef would require 20 times more land and produce 300 per cent more emissions.

    ● Greenpeace dogmatism worsened forest fragmentation of the Amazon.

    ● The colonialist approach to gorilla conservation in the Congo produced a backlash that may have resulted in the killing of 250 elephants.

    Why were we all so misled? In the final three chapters of Apocalypse Never I expose the ­financial, political and ideological motivations. Environmental groups have accepted hundreds of millions of dollars from fossil fuel interests. Groups motivated by anti-humanist beliefs forced the World Bank to stop trying to end poverty and instead make poverty “sustainable”. And status anxiety, depression and hostility to modern civilisation are behind much of the alarmism.

    Reality bites

    Once you realise just how badly misinformed we have been, often by people with plainly unsavoury motivations, it is hard not to feel duped. Will Apocalypse Never make any difference? There are certainly reasons to doubt it. The news media have been making apocalyptic pronouncements about climate change since the late 1980s, and do not seem disposed to stop. The ideology behind environmental alarmism — Malthusianism — has been repeatedly debunked for 200 years and yet is more powerful than ever.

    But there are also reasons to ­believe that environmental alarmism will, if not come to an end, have diminishing cultural power.

    A real crisis

    The coronavirus pandemic is an actual crisis that puts the climate “crisis” into perspective. Even if you think we have overreacted, COVID-19 has killed nearly 500,000 people and shattered economies around the globe.

    Scientific institutions including WHO and IPCC have undermined their credibility through the repeated politicisation of science. Their future existence and relevance depends on new leadership and serious reform. Facts still matter, and social media is allowing for a wider range of new and independent voices to outcompete alarmist environmental journalists at legacy publications.

    Nations are reverting openly to self-interest and away from Malthusianism and neoliberalism, which is good for nuclear and bad for renewables.

    The evidence is overwhelming that our high-energy civilisation is better for people and nature than the low-energy civilisation that climate alarmists would return us to.

    The invitations from IPCC and congress are signs of a growing openness to new thinking about climate change and the environment. Another one has been to the response to my book from climate scientists, conservationists and ­environmental scholars. “Apocalypse Never is an extremely ­important book,” writes Richard Rhodes, the Pulitzer-winning ­author of The Making of the Atomic Bomb. “This may be the most important book on the environment ever written,” says one of the fathers of modern climate science, Tom Wigley.

    “We environmentalists condemn those with antithetical views of being ignorant of science and susceptible to confirmation bias,” wrote the former head of The Nature Conservancy, Steve McCormick. “But too often we are guilty of the same. Shellenberger offers ‘tough love’: a challenge to entrenched orthodoxies and rigid, self-defeating mindsets. Apocalypse Never serves up occasionally stinging, but always well-crafted, evidence-based points of view that will help develop the ‘mental muscle’ we need to envision and design not only a hopeful, but an attainable, future.”

    That is all I hoped for in writing it. If you’ve made it this far, I hope you’ll agree it’s perhaps not as strange as it seems that a lifelong environmentalist and progressive felt the need to speak out against the alarmism. I further hope that you’ll accept my apology.

    Michael Shellenberger is president of Environmental Progress, an independent research and policy organisation. He is the author of Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All, published by Harper Collins

    Oz

  126. Mark A

    Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3500254, posted on June 30, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    Unless Dickens himself was personally responsible for actual cruel treatment of another person, whether his contemporaries claimed that he was racist or held racist views, should be of no account, except as background biographical information of his life and times.

    We are back where only white people can be cruel, barbaric and racists.
    It took the English to stop some Indians burning the wife of the deceased on his funeral pyre.

  127. stackja

    Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3500254, posted on June 30, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    1942 views on Imperial Japan could be viewed as offensive today.

  128. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Top Ender
    #3500241, posted on June 30, 2020 at 10:56 pm
    Can we have 24 Virginia-class subs from the USA too please.

    And three Nimitz class aircraft carriers.

    And a few thousand USN personnel to get them started?

    TE, didn’t we already make you our Minister for Defence?

  129. No subs cancelled though.

    Come to think of it, Scomo said something earlier today about “soon” having a dozen subs. Didn’t pay much attention to it.
    This rules out the Croissant Class, of which “arriving soon” could never be said.

  130. JC

    Huh

    The real surname of which classic actress and singer was Kappelhoff?

    The correct answer was Doris Day

    Doris Day (born Doris Mary Anne Kappelhoff

  131. Mark A

    Nearing the witching hour, time for the lame pics.

  132. stackja

    Norma Deloris Egstrom

  133. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Mark A & Stackja,
    👍

    & mullets were once THE go to hairstyle – What were we all thinking?

  134. Pedro the Loafer

    Thanks Mark A.
    LOL’d as the cool kids say.

    As a side issue, nice to peruse and toss in a comment or two the Open Thread while that monomaniacal fuckwit from Toowoomba is asleep dreaming of folding blankets in Vietnam 50 years ago.

    Time for the big fat leather armchair, a glass of overpriced Swan Valley plonk and the next episode of The Sopranos on DVD.

    ‘Nite Cats.

  135. JC

    Read this carefully

    Existing Home Sale Prices Rose 4.7% in April (Compared to April 2019)

    Meanwhile. we’re told this is the largest economic contraction since the 1930s. And April was a really bad virus month.

  136. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Doris Day

    JC, the other half’s favourite actress.

    Que Sera, Sera 😊

  137. MemoryFault

    Thanks Mark.
    Now to sleep, perchance to dream.

  138. Bar Beach Swimmer

    JC, thank you for keeping us up to date.

  139. Over at the Daily Mail UK seems a pair of ex footballers, who are TV commentators, have grown a pair and are questioning BLM. One is Matt Le Tissier who it seems has asked Sky News if it is appropriate to wear a BLM badge.

    Another post there has yet another game where both teams taking a knee.

    Keep BLM out of sport.

  140. Zyconoclast

    And three Nimitz class aircraft carriers.

    If you scoop out the current and previous defence ministers you have 2 of your three aircraft carriers. You will even have room for some French diesel power.

  141. K2

    Matt Le Tissier was the real shit back when, and it seems he still is now.

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