Open Forum: June 27, 2020

This entry was posted in Open Forum. Bookmark the permalink.

2,405 Responses to Open Forum: June 27, 2020

  1. Boambee John

    Mind you, many of them were up themselves when sober…

    Absolutely no self awareness! Still, if you spend your life scratching around in trash ….

  2. Roger

    altogether more professional

  3. Makka

    Joe Biden’s gaffes and mumblings are catching up to him with his own base of voters, with one-fifth believing he has dementia, according to a new survey.

    Rasmussen Reports revealed in new data shared with Secrets that 20% of Democrats believe he suffers from the debilitating disease. Many more Republicans, 66%, agree.

    Overall, 38% believe Biden has dementia, likely driven by his misstatements during speeches and Zoom events.

    Seniors are the age group most likely to think Biden is suffering from dementia, said the Rasmussen analysis.

    The report followed a Zogby poll that found 55% believe that the 77-year-old Democrat and former vice president is in the early stages of dementia. “Right now voters have questions concerning Biden’s mental health and stamina,” said the Zogby analysis.

    Rasmussen took the question further, asking if likely voters believed Biden already had dementia, although it did not define the condition.

    It found that voters want the vice president to address the concerns. “Sixty-one percent of all voters believe it is important for Biden to address the dementia issue publicly, with 41% who say it is ‘Very Important,’” said Rasmussen.

  4. Infidel Tiger King

    The Democrats official position is that Mt Rushmore has to go.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1277796881515474944/photo/1

  5. Maj

    The St. Louis homeowners seen exercising their 2A rights defending their property, now come out as woke BLM supporters.

    Armed St. Louis protesters broke iron gate, threatened couple before they drew their own guns, attorney says

    A Missouri couple under fire for brandishing guns in the front yard of their home as protesters passed told police the group broke a gate to get onto the private street, and the pair say they only retrieved their firearms when they spotted “multiple” people who were already armed, department records show.

    Al Watkins, an attorney for Mark McCloskey, 63, and his 61-year-old wife, Patricia, said the protest was largely peaceful and the pair did not bring their guns outside of the home until two men in particular, both of whom were white, started menacing them.

    The McCloskeys, he said, were hesitant to come forward with the full story out of fear that they would “disparage the importance of Black Lives Matter.”

    “At the time, their fear was, these people, two in particular, that were marching along with the Black Lives Matter protest participants – all peaceful. They were acting in a fashion inconsistent with the message being given,” Watkins said. “My clients were not arming themselves against peaceful protesters, they were arming themselves about people with a really bad motive, a motive that runs afoul of the fundamental tenets of our country.”

    After the couple brought the guns outside, Watkins said, others began threatening them, unaware of the reason behind the couple’s interpreted need to arm themselves.

    “My clients, though, had to deal with comments that were from two individuals that were perpetrating these acts of violence and, not charging, but coming toward them and doing so in a fashion that was threatening, menacing, and in a fashion inconsistent with the Black Lives Matter message.”

    The pair called the St. Louis Police Department shortly before 7:30 p.m. Sunday. They told arriving officers that they had heard a “commotion” and, upon investigating further, “observed a large group of subjects forcefully break an iron gate marked with ‘No Trespassing’ and ‘Private Street’ signs.” according to an incident summary provided to Fox News by the department.

    The police report does not identify the McCloskeys as the victims.

    “Once through the gate, the victims advised the group that they were on a private street and trespassing and told them to leave,” the police summary further states. “The group began yelling obscenities and threats of harm to both victims. When the victims observed multiple subjects who were armed, they then armed themselves and contacted police.”

    Based on the couple’s account, police labeled the incident a case of trespassing and assault by intimidation, according to the incident summary. No other police reports were filed that night, a department spokesperson told Fox News.

    Mark McCloskey told KMOV-TV that a mob rushed toward the home as the family was having dinner and “put us in fear of our lives.”

    “This is all private property. There are no public sidewalks or public streets,” McCloskey said. “We were told that we would be killed, our home burned and our dog killed. We were all alone facing an angry mob.”

    Viral video posted to Twitter shows the McCloskeys, who are both attorneys, standing outside their Renaissance palazzo-style home in the city’s well-to-do Central West End neighborhood. He could be heard yelling while holding a long-barreled gun. His wife stood next to him with a handgun.

    Watkins said the McCloskeys have each practiced law for more than 30 years have and “their practices have included, on an ongoing basis, representing individuals in pursuit of protection of their civil rights.”

    “One hundred percent of my client’s clients in those cases have been people of color,” Watkins said.

  6. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    voters believe it is important for Biden to address the dementia issue publicly

    aka, “the thing”.

  7. Cassie of Sydney

    “Infidel Tiger King
    #3499723, posted on June 30, 2020 at 1:36 pm
    The Democrats official position is that Mt Rushmore has to go.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1277796881515474944/photo/1

    Proof that they are NO different to the Taliban and ISIS.

  8. Geriatric Mayfly

    It found that voters want the vice president to address the concerns

    Didn’t the US Media have a retrospective celebration of The Gipper’s dementia/Alzheimer’s?

  9. Boambee John

    C.L.
    #3499709, posted on June 30, 2020 at 1:25 pm
    the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.

    OK, I’m confused. When did this happen?

    It’s like the progression in the US since 1860.

    Coloured people to negroes to blacks to African-Americans to people of colour.

    Here, aborigines to indigenous to “proud XXX man or woman”.

  10. The National Cabinet could be justified as the Inter State Commission.

    Currently that’s the Productivity Commission that holds the “position” as the IC.

  11. Maj

    Joe Biden’s gaffes and mumblings are catching up to him with his own base of voters, with one-fifth believing he has dementia, according to a new survey.

    Rasmussen Reports revealed in new data shared with Secrets that 20% of Democrats believe he suffers from the debilitating disease. Many more Republicans, 66%, agree.

    What does this say about America that 20% of Democrats believe he suffers from dementia but will vote to put him in the White House anyway?

  12. Joe Biden’s gaffes and mumblings are catching up to him with his own base of voters, with one-fifth believing he has dementia, according to a new survey.

    Ignorance is rife now, and has been, across the Pacific, for quite a while.

    This report was published in January 2017.

    When a recent Economist/YouGov poll showed that 42 percent of self-identified Republicans still believe that Democratic President Barack Obama was born in Kenya, it wasn’t a statistical blip or the result of a sampling error.

    A significant percentage of Republicans have long been out of their minds on the long-settled matter of Obama’s status as a natural-born citizen, which I won’t dignify here with such words as “question” or “issue.”

    In 2010, an ABC News/Washington Post poll found 31 percent of Republicans said they thought Obama was born outside the United States. In 2011, a New York Times/CBS News poll had that number at 45 percent, and a Fox News poll had it at 37 percent.

    The Economist/YouGov poll, conducted in mid-December, also showed 49 percent of Republicans saying it was either definitely or probably true that “leaked email from some of Hillary Clinton’s campaign staffers contained code words for pedophilia, human trafficking and satanic ritual abuse,” as was alleged in widely disseminated fake-news stories.

    A Public Policy Polling survey taken about a week earlier found 45 percent of Republicans saying either they believed that Clinton was connected to a child sex ring or that they weren’t sure whether that rumor was true.

    Yes, this is significant evidence of contemptible, toxic ignorance — the sustaining lifeblood of hatred.

    But no, it’s not limited to Republicans. In the polls listed above, an average 14 percent of Democrats shared the Republicans’ skepticism that Obama was born in Hawaii, and an average 18 percent of Democrats echoed the utterly absurd Republican suspicions about Clinton’s involvement in organized pedophilia.

    Not only is our nation divided, it’s cracked.

    More evidence from the Economist/YouGov survey of 1,376 American adults:

    • Even though the idea that the U.S. government helped plan the terrorist attacks of 9/11 is one of the looniest conspiracy theories ever advanced by the tinfoil-hat crowd, 25 percent of respondents said it’s definitely or probably true. (Democrats, 26 percent; Republicans, 21 percent).

    • Even though there’s been no evidence of significant voter fraud, 46 percent of respondents said they thought it was definitely or probably true that “millions of illegal votes were cast” in the November election (Democrats, 36 percent; Republicans, 52 percent).

    • Even though the number of people without medical insurance has fallen to historic lows under the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), 31 percent of respondents said it had increased (Democrats 24 percent; Republicans 40 percent).

    And still more from the PPP survey of 1,224 registered voters:

    • Even though the unemployment rate has decreased dramatically since 2009, 41 percent of respondents said it had increased during Obama’s time in office (Democrats, 26 percent; Republicans 64 percent).

    • Even though the Dow Jones industrial average has more than doubled during the Obama years, 23 percent of respondents said it had gone down (Democrats 9 percent; Republicans 39 percent).

    • Even though Democratic candidate Clinton won the overall popular vote for president by nearly 3 million votes, 19 percent of respondents said they thought Republican Donald Trump got more votes (Democrats, 6 percent; Republicans, 40 percent).

    There’s nothing new about widespread ignorance, even ignorance nakedly infected by partisanship — though I suspect that the siloing effect of social media has made the truth gap wider than ever.

  13. Des Deskperson

    ‘the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.’

    In the APS, we were required to use ‘Aboriginal’ since at least the late 90s. ‘Aboriginal’ kosher, ‘Aborigine’ not. It was never clear why, although ‘Aboriginal’ sounds a bit nicer.

    The comic strip, BTW, was an old ‘Modesty Blaise’ one from 1981, now defunct for decades. I am surprised it lasted until 1981. Why the West Australian dug it up puzzles me.

  14. Boambee John

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3499723, posted on June 30, 2020 at 1:36 pm
    The Democrats official position is that Mt Rushmore has to go.

    You spelled Taliban wrongly. Buddhas, presidents, what’s the difference!

  15. Maj

    Didn’t the US Media have a retrospective celebration of The Gipper’s dementia/Alzheimer’s?

    Didn’t Reagan have a slip up in a Presidential Debate where he muttered something that didn’t make sense, and he still won reelection handily?

    President Trump can’t rely on Biden slip ups to win reelection. He has to DESTROY Sleepy Joe like he Destroyed Crooked Hillary.

  16. Roger

    I may be going out on a limb here but I’m forming a view that the 1967 referendum, though well intentioned, was unwise. It established the constitutional framework for Commonwealth funding for aboriginal people that has seen billions spent since without much, if any, advance in the condition of the poorest indigenous folk. The rationale at the time was that was that assimilation had failed. Rather, I think that assimilation was not given enough time. Today we see that the indigenous people who are doing well are those that have, by and large, assimilated with mainstream culture. And it is they, rather than folk in the remote settlements, who seem to benefit most from Commonwealth largesse that is obviously poorly targeted.

  17. Geriatric Mayfly

    Even though Democratic candidate Clinton won the overall popular vote for president by nearly 3 million votes,

    The Electoral College is there for that very reason, to make sure places like New York and California do not swamp the voters in less populous states.

  18. candy

    It may be that Dem voters are aware that Biden may well be replaced if he wins the Presidency, even within weeks.
    Dementia has an uncertain course.

    The presidency could be a poisoned chalice for the first lady President but. The country is torn apart.

  19. Cassie of Sydney

    “Geriatric Mayfly
    #3499740, posted on June 30, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    The Electoral College is there for that very reason, to make sure places like New York and California do not swamp the voters in less populous states.”

    That’s right…but watch the Demrats, if they are elected in November, try to get rid of it.

  20. johanna

    Roger, State and Federal Cabinet meeting minutes are not published either. I can see the rationale for this, having been a note-taker in Federal Cabinet meetings. Ministers do disagree, sometimes vehemently, and it would just be providing ammunition to their political opponents to publicise it. As it is, very often those disagreements are leaked anyway, but I can see why you wouldn’t want to guarantee it.

    Also, some matters are sensitive for security reasons, and others are time sensitive because some people stand to gain or lose from notice ahead of an official announcement.

    I don’t think any country with a Westminster system publishes contemporaneous Cabinet processes.

  21. EvilElvis

    Why is it that when black fellas in positions of power must have their tribal name or area mentioned in any newspaper report?

    Is that serious, Black Ball of the Bowlo?

    Ridiculous.

  22. Mater

    • Even though Democratic candidate Clinton won the overall popular vote for president by nearly 3 million votes,

    The Electoral College is there for that very reason, to make sure places like New York and California do not swamp the voters in less populous states.

    I imagine that there are a lot of Republican voters in the highly populace areas, such as California and New York (and other strongly Democratic areas), who don’t bother voting due to the Electoral College, and there being no real point.
    Remove the current system, and that 3 million lead might take a significant hit. It would fundamentally change voter behaviour. The knock on effects of such a change, would be many and varied, and not always as clear as it might first appear.

  23. JC

    STFU Artie.

    The place is fine.

  24. From Powerline Loose Ends 111 thread. It has a link to a fairly detailed article about a Harvard student very actively planning to damage the Lincoln statue.

    So question is, do Unis have policies regarding bringing the Uni into disrepute ? Or engaging in criminal activity. Hopefully the FBI have read the article and his posts and he gets a knock on the door.

    • A number of colleges have rescinded admissions for students who they subsequently discovered had indulged in insensitive (or worse) comments or behavior some time in their youthful past. I note in passing that the leader of the effort to topple the statue of Lincoln in Washington DC is a Harvard student. Will he face any discipline from Harvard for this advocacy of criminal vandalism? Hypothetical: How would Harvard react if a conservative student advocated vandalizing the Martin Luther King memorial on the Capitol Mall?

    I think we know how’d they’d respond.

  25. DrBeauGan

    Nothing… I’ll repeat that: NOTHING! Anyone has written in response to Bob, Montz, Wimpeter, Ed, Grigs-et-al, even Bird, has changed the essence of their posts. Nothing ever will.. and I am an optimist. We could all do better shouting at rocks.

    It also seriously ruins OTs which, otherwise, are increadibly entertaining and informative. I am sure I’m not the only one who, scrolling ad-nauseam and then giving up, misses great posts.

    +Lots. Calling out the idiocy achieves nothing except clogging up the thread. Rebutting garbage is pointless. You’re just encouraging the loons by taking them seriously.

  26. Dr Faustus

    As more of a reader than writer, I’d tend to agree with Gilas at 12:42.

    I’m quite capable of scrolling Numbers’ strange and uninteresting obsessions, but the incoming flak fills the page a bit and has me skipping over posts by posters I would otherwise look at.

    The daily Numbers hate (from Tom o’clock to mid afternoon most days) is a tableau that reminds me of old, homeless Shouty McPisstrousers, lying on the pavement, clutching his possessions in a tatty string bag – surrounded by a small well-dressed group, variously prodding, spitting, yelling at him to lift his game, and grabbing at this things – as he soils himself in rage.

    And then complaining about the smell and mess.

    Disappointing to walk past; but the management seems to like it.

  27. Mitch M.

    Boambee John
    #3499729, posted on June 30, 2020 at 1:38 pm
    C.L.
    #3499709, posted on June 30, 2020 at 1:25 pm
    the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.

    OK, I’m confused. When did this happen?

    It’s like the progression in the US since 1860.

    Coloured people to negroes to blacks to African-Americans to people of colour.

    Here, aborigines to indigenous to “proud XXX man or woman”.

    Let’s completely undermine identity politics by just calling them people.

  28. DrBeauGan

    Aborigine is a noun. Aboriginal is an adjective. The idea that either is derogatory is ludicrous. Running around worrying about words while ignoring the realities is deranged.

  29. Roger

    Roger, State and Federal Cabinet meeting minutes are not published either

    But I believe the Premiers’ Conferences were, johanna.

    So the precedent is there.

    I can understand cabinet confidentiality, but on the whole if the workings of government(s) don’t need to be secret they shouldn’t be. Public interest and all that.

  30. Roger

    Running around worrying about words while ignoring the realities is deranged.

    Keeps a small army of people handsomely renumerated though.

  31. egg_

    Lotus Elise has a tendency to blow head gaskets?

    Isn’t it just a bog stock MX5 shopping trolley engine in a lightweight fibreglass body?

  32. I imagine that there are a lot of Republican voters in the highly populace (sic) areas, such as California and New York (and other strongly Democratic areas), who don’t bother voting due to the Electoral College, and there being no real point.

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, neatly summarises the corruption that is the US “electoral” system.
    This is a system where you are wasting your time voting, because your vote makes no difference.
    It applies equally to Republicans in Democrat majority areas (usually cities with high populations) and Democrats in flyover country where the gerrymander is locked in.

    Whichever way you look at it, it’s *democracy in name only.
    *DINO
    It reflects very clearly how devalued electoral choice (and by definition democracy) is in the USA.

  33. DrBeauGan

    Running around worrying about words while ignoring the realities is deranged.

    Keeps a small army of people handsomely renumerated though.

    I have noticed that most black people in public life with a compulsion to give us their opinions are fuckwits. Not all, but most.

    Exactly the same is true of white people, and there are more of them. I haven’t yet figured out why we pay either group.

  34. egg_

    Aborigine is a noun.

    Much of our Aboriginal Industry’s memes are important from Canadian “First Nations” Aborigines, and theirs seems more strident than ours – which is saying something – keeping Whitey out of “traditional” fishing grounds and the like, destroying industries.
    Presumably, the Canadian Anglos kowtow more than the French.

  35. Delta A

    Aborigine is a noun. Aboriginal is an adjective.

    True. But I have noticed in recent years that Aboriginal is being used more frequently as a noun.

  36. johanna

    Roger, those ‘minutes’ would have been edited and redacted to the point where they are no more informative than the official communique.

    And WA Premiers went home loudly telling all and sundry that they disagreed with most of the decisions, and wouldn’t have a bar of them.

    It’s all theatre – provision of ‘minutes’ would not be any more enlightening than the current regime of secrecy punctured by leaks. 🙂

  37. Delta A

    …in addition, I should add, to its use as an adjective.

  38. DrBeauGan

    Aborigine is a noun. Aboriginal is an adjective.

    True. But I have noticed in recent years that Aboriginal is being used more frequently as a noun.

    That’s because we have diseducated everyone.

  39. Cassie of Sydney

    “True. But I have noticed in recent years that Aboriginal is being used more frequently as a noun.”

    Yes DA..I have noticed that too.

  40. Dr Faustus

    Curtin University Centre for Aboriginal Studies director and Noongar woman Professor Marion Kickett shared Mr Eggington’s disbelief and said the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.

    Mz Kickett needs to crack on with the big animals and deal with the unbelievably outdated and politically incorrect name of the organisation she directs.

  41. cohenite

    • Even though Democratic candidate Clinton won the overall popular vote for president by nearly 3 million votes,

    The troll filth perpetuates this lie; no surprise it’s a liar too. Most of those 3 million votes were in California with no voter fraud protection. Simply put the idea shrillary won the popular vote is a lie put out by the demorats and their scum supporters like the troll.

  42. Mater

    This is a system where you are wasting your time voting, because your vote makes no difference.

    No different in Australia, if you live in a safe seat.
    The only difference is, we are forced to waste our time on a Saturday morning.

  43. Cassie of Sydney

    “DrBeauGan
    #3499767, posted on June 30, 2020 at 2:19 pm
    Aborigine is a noun. Aboriginal is an adjective.

    True. But I have noticed in recent years that Aboriginal is being used more frequently as a noun.

    That’s because we have diseducated everyone.”

    I think that can apply to the whole west…particularly the Anglo speaking west…..education has been deliberately dumbed down and everyone has been deliberately uneducated.

  44. I have noticed that most black people in public life with a compulsion to give us their opinions are fuckwits. Not all, but most.

    Unlike Dr BeauGan who provides his opinions here for free.
    Aren’t we lucky?

  45. Caveman

    Australia should call for an investigation into Covid-19 from Victoria and ask for compensation.

  46. cohenite

    The aborigines are not the first nations, they weren’t a nation, they killed the mega-fauna, burnt the place down, practised cannibalism and brutal tribalism and have benefited immensely from Western culture. In fact Western civilisation saved the 3rd nations and the new zealandistan maoris.

  47. cohenite

    There’s no justice; the troll is still alive.

  48. Des Deskperson

    ‘True. But I have noticed in recent years that Aboriginal is being used more frequently as a noun.’

    Our directions c.1997 were quite clear. We were never to use the term ‘Aborigine’ in any grammatical structure.

  49. twostix

    Nonsense. There is nothing unconstitutional about a bunch of politicians – any bunch of politicians – getting together, giving themselves a name and having meetings.

    This is what happens when you spend to much time in Canberra.

    If the state premiers and prime minister were supposed to run the country from a secret meeting room where they gather together, take secret votes and the public knows nothing of who supports and opposes what and the general machinations that are going on, then return to their respective parliaments with the outcome of that to vote on, it would have been written in the constitution to be like that.

    That would be the system of government, because that is what it is: a system of governance.

    Geezuz christ.

  50. DrBeauGan

    I think that can apply to the whole west…particularly the Anglo speaking west…..education has been deliberately dumbed down and everyone has been deliberately uneducated.

    Yes. At first I thought it was just the ignorance and stupidity of our educational establishment, but now I believe it is deliberate policy.

  51. Mother Lode

    the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.

    OK, I’m confused. When did this happen?

    It is a strategy of the left to continuously fiddle with language and concepts so anyone not engaged in the constant overhauling will, in discussion, be at a disadvantage trying to navigate the dead ends, the pot holes, the new detours etc.

    Imagine being in a conversation where you are suddenly pulled up for using the word Aborigine. Why? Who says? What word am I supposed to use instead? Trying to sort all this out is like having one hand tied behind your back.

    Look at the what they have done to sexuality. Uncounted rules, prohibitions, principles, perspectives, tenets – all constructed from air.

    The left, for all their pretensions, are intellectually stunted. They do not seek to immerse themselves in reality. All the things they squabble about are forgotten in their own lifetimes.

    They argue not to illuminate, but to get the feeling of being better than someone else. It is all ego.

  52. egg_

    In fact Western civilisation saved the 3rd nations and the new zealandistan maoris.

    I’ll bet their nutrition and lifespan improved, just for starters.
    It’s like feeding a wild dog and then letting it tear your house to shreds, literally.

  53. JC

    Cronkite

    Check your privilege.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.

    “White c###” still isn’t outdated and politically incorrect, though,

  55. Dr Faustus

    Queensland to open state borders on 10 July, but not to Victorians

    From 10 July, people from Tasmania, South Australia, Western Australia, New South Wales, Northern Territory and the ACT will be allowed to enter Queensland after filling in a border declaration.

    The border declaration is to ensure that no-one from those jurisdictions has travelled to Victoria in the 14 days before arriving in Queensland, Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said.

    From 3 July, anyone who has travelled to Queensland from Victoria will not be allowed entry or will have to pay for quarantine in a hotel at their own expense.

    Don’t see many problems here – just a bit of paperwork at the border post.
    And enforcement.

  56. old bloke

    Curtin University Centre for Aboriginal Studies director and Noongar woman Professor Marion Kickett shared Mr Eggington’s disbelief and said the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.

    Doesn’t the word Aborigine simply mean native born? In which case, I, as a proud AngloBritIrishNorse man proudly call myself an aboriginal Aborigine.

  57. egg_

    the state premiers and prime minister were supposed to run the country from a secret meeting room where they gather together, take secret votes and the public knows nothing of who supports and opposes what and the general machinations that are going on, then return to their respective parliaments with the outcome of that to vote on

    And Scotty-from-Marketing wants the “National Cabinet” to endure and replace the usual meetings with State Premiers.

  58. johanna

    twostix – you have lost it.

    Are you saying that anything that isn’t explicitly written in the Constitution is unconstitutional?

    Bizarre.

    In other news, the Little Koala That Could is about to become extinct yet again:

    Koalas could be extinct in New South Wales within 30 years unless urgent action is taken, according a report by a parliamentary committee.

    The report from an Upper House inquiry into koala populations and their habitats was released today.

    Committee Chairwoman Cate Faehrmann said it was estimated at least 5,000 koalas perished in the recent bushfires.

    The Greens MP said the findings of the year-long inquiry should be a game changer for the State Government.

    I have been hearing about this imminent extinction for decades now. It is absurd.

    And how about the cheek of the Greens, who oppose any useful bushfire prevention measures, weeping about all the koalas that got incinerated?

  59. egg_

    Queensland to open state borders on 10 July, but not to Victorians

    Our poor white trash State, thanks to the Hunchback.

  60. Gab

    Ápparently ”aborigine” is verboten but ”aboriginal” is still pc.

    Go figure.

  61. Dr Faustus

    Doesn’t the word Aborigine simply mean native born? In which case, I, as a proud AngloBritIrishNorse man proudly call myself an aboriginal Aborigine.

    ab origine: from the beginning.
    You don’t get your LandCruiser that easily.

  62. cohenite

    Check your privilege.

    What fucking privilege, you idiot.

  63. P

    Gab,

    When I saw this pic with today’s Gospel AcclamationI hope in the Lord, I trust in his word,
    I thought of your gravatar.

  64. Yes it’s very confusing.
    Let’s just use Australian and like Sherlock Holmes in Game Of Shadows said to Watson, “now can’t we just crack on?”

  65. Gilas

    incoherent rambler
    #3499695, posted on June 30, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    Thank you good Sir.

    I rests my case.

  66. Mater

    I rests my case.

    We will see.
    I’m not here to upset people I respect, so I’ll take a step back, grab the popcorn, and observe.
    Good luck.

  67. Yes. At first I thought it was just the ignorance and stupidity of our educational establishment, but now I believe it is deliberate policy.

    Absolutely.
    Initiated and organised by those debil-debil *communists/socialists/leftists.
    *Strike out whichever does not apply…

  68. old bloke

    Black Ball
    #3499801, posted on June 30, 2020 at 2:43 pm

    Yes it’s very confusing.
    Let’s just use Australian and like Sherlock Holmes in Game Of Shadows said to Watson, “now can’t we just crack on?”

    That’s way too sensible BB, we can’t have that sort of thing going on.

  69. Gab

    One of the more beautiful psalms too, P.

  70. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3499803, posted on June 30, 2020 at 2:49 pm
    I rests my case.

    We will see.
    I’m not here to upset people I respect, so I’ll take a step back, grab the popcorn, and observe.
    Good luck.”

    What are the odds you will be proved right Mater? Just watch.

    And apparently we on the right aren’t allowed to defend ourselves and our side….we must be nice, be polite and turn the other cheek.

    Anyway…I have always appreciated your work Mater.

  71. Delta A

    Mother Lode
    #3499781, posted on June 30, 2020 at 2:28 pm

    Yes. Very well said, Mother Lode.

  72. Cassie of Sydney

    Cohenite…any luck with Parler?

  73. egg_

    Check your privilege.

    Is there a hi-viz vest for middle aged white guys because: “privilege”?

  74. Gilas:

    Nothing… I’ll repeat that: NOTHING! Anyone has written in response to Bob, Montz, Wimpeter, Ed, Grigs-et-al, even Bird, has changed the essence of their posts. Nothing ever will.. and I am an optimist. We could all do better shouting at rocks.

    From the Desk of the Doomlord:

    Sinclair Davidson
    #652316, posted on November 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    1735099 – Don’t understand what you’re talking about. I would have thought that most Cats have a lot of time and respect for all veterans. Maybe it isn’t veterans per se but rather you. As far as I’m aware you are the only former (or currently serving) military person who feels demeaned.
    You have come here with an agenda and have gotten your butt kicked – hard and often. Despite me suggesting to you some days ago that you modify your tactics, you reassured me that you were well, coping, and enjoying yourself. So – I believe the expression is – suck it up.

  75. Geriatric Mayfly:

    US ‘proof’ Beijing is stepping up nuclear arms race
    China is engaged in a ‘crash nuclear program’ at its huge, secretive Lop Nur site, according to US intelligence assessments.

    And if anyone believes China has just 290 warheads, I have a bridge to sell you.

  76. cohenite

    Cohenite…any luck with Parler?

    Nuh. Head prefect must run it.

  77. egg_

    She said she just wants everyone to open their eyes and see what the world is really like, and start having true empathy and compassion for other people and their experiences.

    Bog standard Leftoid class wars?

    MLK Jnr wasn’t into guilting whites, he wanted to work with them, not escalate hatred.

  78. Gilas

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3499809, posted on June 30, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    “Mater
    #3499803, posted on June 30, 2020 at 2:49 pm
    I rests my case.

    We will see.
    I’m not here to upset people I respect, so I’ll take a step back, grab the popcorn, and observe.
    Good luck.”

    What are the odds you will be proved right Mater? Just watch.

    ???

    How would Mater, or you, or any Cat – aside from the troll-wagen – be proved right?

    To me, arguing with trolls is a Sisyphean exercise…
    “Victory” in this context should mean that one or more trolls are dissuaded from persisting through the force of correct argument.

    Well… it hasn’t happened yet…
    ..and not by lack of trying…

    Anyway, good luck!

  79. jupes

    https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1277348117474664448?s=20

    This young lady has more guts than all the players in the AFL combined.

  80. I wonder if Des got it the wrong way round. To ask a person ‘are you Aboriginal’ was (I think) at one time considered offensive. As an adjective, it described the person as being related to an Aborigine, rather than identifying them as such.

    I recall an incident (shown on the telly) in which Hazel corrected Hawke PM for using the wrong word. ‘Don’t be a pedant’ was his very public reply.

    Of course, I stand to be corrected. (As JC is wont to say, recognising that he is wrong frequently.)

  81. cohenite

    To me, arguing with trolls is a Sisyphean exercise…

    FMD

    “Victory” in this context should mean that one or more trolls are dissuaded from persisting through the force of correct argument.

    That statement sums up why the non-left/conservative/libertarian/whatever side is losing. There is no fucking correct argument against the left , FFS. The left don’t do correct, rational or reasonable. It’s force which works because they’re cowards unless in a mob, or quarantining. The troll’s only goal in coming here is to distract and to destroy.

    You can’t be that stupid.

  82. JC

    Cassie

    I’m not letting him on. He’ll never check his privilege.

  83. cohenite

    You bastard head prefect; you can shine you’re own fucking arse from now on.

  84. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Maj at 1:00 pm:

    ” The National cabinet are persistent buggers.

    Dumbest people in the country….

    And unconstitutional.

    Yeah, yeah – write to the Complaints Department.

    That rubbish about “unconstitutional” is about as pertinent as the petals’ sobbing in the ’80s or ’90s, that any war against any enemy of the USA was an “illegal” war, specially those caused by Israel but never those started by Yasser Crackafat.

    As Johanna points out somewhere here the Premiers and the Prime Minister can meet as they see fit, and call the meeting whatever takes their fancy. Despite the continuous bagging here of the Federal public servants, including by me, it is a fact that there are quite a few very smart people among them. The Australian Government Solicitor is paid handsomely to tell the Prime Minister “No, you cannot do that” when it is necessary to do so.

    The fact that the thing has been in operation undisturbed for six months tells you and the other bush lawyers that you are wasting your time.

  85. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3499833, posted on June 30, 2020 at 3:26 pm
    Cassie

    I’m not letting him on. He’ll never check his privilege.”

    I love both of you

  86. Mitch M.

    Yes. At first I thought it was just the ignorance and stupidity of our educational establishment, but now I believe it is deliberate policy.

    Not deliberate just the inevitable result of pushing increasing numbers of people into tertiary education. To accommodate them the standards had to be lowered so now we have people with degrees who in previous generations would have had trades. It’s absurd because governments didn’t account of the inevitable lowering of quality in education and the subsequent graduation of so many who think they highly intelligent because they have a postgrad. Universities don’t make people intelligent they educate people, sort of, not so much anymore. Now they are mostly sausage factories. It wasn’t like that in the past but governments decided to interfere and here we are heading towards idiocracy. Governments are still pushing the education agenda so standards will keep falling.

  87. twostix

    As Johanna points out somewhere here the Premiers and the Prime Minister can meet as they see fit, and call the meeting whatever takes their fancy. Despite the continuous bagging here of the Federal public servants, including by me, it is a fact that there are quite a few very smart people among them. The Australian Government Solicitor is paid handsomely to tell the Prime Minister “No, you cannot do that” when it is necessary to do so.

    We’re really never going to reach peak boomer are we?

    Nothing the government ever does is illegal or unconstitutional, or inherently unaustralian according to these dopes, because the commonwealth has a lawyer who says so.

    This is the same strain of stupid that was ordering us back in March to obediently obey every utterance of the bickering Supreme Leader Chief Medical Officers and their promises of 100,000 dead by April or you are a murderer.

  88. Gilas

    cohenite
    #3499832, posted on June 30, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    That statement sums up why the non-left/conservative/libertarian/whatever side is losing. There is no fucking correct argument against the left , FFS. The left don’t do correct, rational or reasonable. It’s force which works because they’re cowards unless in a mob, or quarantining. The troll’s only goal in coming here is to distract and to destroy.

    You can’t be that stupid.

    Hello Cohenite. Not sure if that was directed at me, but agree with you 100%.

    Pointless argument in blogs doesn’t quite do it for me either.
    Leftards have won through collectivist force and direct action.
    Conservatives’ polite, or even severely impolite verbal attacks do exactly 0.001% of [email protected] all to reverse that momentum.

    You and I both know what’s really required for the job.

  89. MemoryFault

    Our directions c.1997 were quite clear. We were never to use the term ‘Aborigine’ in any grammatical structure.

    Des Deskperson is on the money. It was an official decision by ATSIC (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission) in the mid 1990’s and as far as I can see, has never been rescinded or changed by any official body representing the Australian Indigenous population ever since.

  90. Arnost

    How would Harvard react if a conservative student advocated vandalizing the Martin Luther King memorial on the Capitol Mall?

    There will come a time when this BLM drama is no longer an issue… and new grievances will be needed. So there will come a time when MLK statues will need to come down for bad think. [Did you known that MLK suggested to a gay person that the “problem” was “culturally acquired”? And that a “good psychiatrist” can help get on the “right road toward a solution”?] Tear it down they will say!!!

    “Advice for Living” from “Papers of MLK Jr.”

  91. Cassie of Sydney

    “You and I both know what’s really required for the job.”

    And what is that Gilas?

  92. Eyrie

    ” Despite the continuous bagging here of the Federal public servants, including by me, it is a fact that there are quite a few very smart people among them. ”

    Rat cunning is a better description.

  93. Top Ender

    You think Oz has it bad? Check out the bold sections re New Zealand:

    Do all lives still matter? Or only those blessed by identity politics?
    Amy Brooke

    America itself cannot be called a racist country. A racist country would not have elected Barack Obama as its president.

    It’s highly selective to sloganise, ‘Black Lives Matter’. All lives matter. While the death of George Floyd, a victim of police brutality, has appalled people the world over, it is good to see measured responses coming in reaction to the deliberately fostered violence, looting and arson by those manipulating emotional mobs for their own purposes. Where was this same mob when blonde Justine Ruszczyk, originally from Sydney, was killed by Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor in 2017? Having called 911 after hearing a woman’s screams behind her home, she was shot in the stomach approaching his car. Where were the riotous protests then? And does Rush Limbaugh have a point when stating, ‘If what happened to George Floyd had happened to a white man, we probably wouldn’t even have heard about it’?

    There are good policemen and trigger-happy policemen. The constant threat of violence which police themselves face has made this unenviable job one of the least attractive in the world. This doesn’t excuse the shocking cruelty George Floyd received. But what respect is being shown to Terrence Floyd, pointing out that George, his brother, would not have wanted the catastrophic societal consequences engineered by those deliberately encouraging violence? Evidence includes the depositing of useful material for breaking shop windows and bussing in groups from different areas – including outside Minnesota.

    Given the human condition, there will always be individuals with racist views. However, it can well be argued that these are now in a minority, given the world’s appalled reaction to the crimes committed against various targeted ethnic groups as recently as this preceding century. In the slow inching towards progress, the reality of the barbaric treatment human beings are capable of inflicting on one another – as with the Nazi targeting of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, dissidents, the physically and mentally disabled – was once again brought home when blacks were slaughtering blacks in the Rwanda genocide.

    The 1960s Civil Rights movement exposed ordinary Americans to the evil exhibited by white supremacists targeting blacks with discrimination and violence. The fight against such undoubted racism has long been supported by the majority of the white population. Moreover, the wonderful Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King Jr, has pointed out that it was black people who first shipped their fellow black people as slaves around the world and that many of the white and other peoples who helped form America’s melting pot suffered their own forms of oppression, often with the Irish, Polish and Chinese targeted. The murderous Pol Pot butchered fellow Cambodians, and the despotic Chinese ruler, Xi Jinping, is today targeting his own people –not just the Muslim Uigurs, but Christians and the Falun Gong, appallingly confined alive while their organs are removed in this now shockingly oppressed communist country.

    But where are the official protests from Western governments prioritising trade with this evil regime over all moral or ethical considerations? Where is the outcry about countries like Saudi Arabia, where women, virtually slaves of men, are held in such subjugation that they are forced to wear head-to-toe coverings and can be punished horribly by their male relatives for perceived transgressions – to be executed, even stoned alive? Where are the marches and the condemnation?

    What about the killing of our unborn children by abortion, the leading cause of death worldwide in 2019? The 42.3 million pre-born babies violently destroyed in their mother’s womb were already distinct individuals in their own right – each with its own unique DNA. But where are the media cameras eager to report the marches of pro-life groups, who, forming peaceful protests, are likely to be targeted by insults, aggression and violence? What of the media’s irresponsibility in conniving at – or even arguably fanning – mob violence by giving more attention to typically aggressive protesters than peaceful individuals making a stance for these unborn children?

    The black writer, Thomas Sowell, has warned that ethnic minorities can bully majorities. Endemic racism will be claimed – when in fact the opposite exists. In New Zealand, the police stood by, making a mockery of their responsibility for law enforcement during the Covid-19 lockdown – if Maori groupings were involved – and when a close-packed Auckland crowd of 4,000, some giving black power salutes, demonstrated against what happened in Minnesota.

    New Zealand now has reverse racism with successive governments funding bureaucracies prioritising Maori and Pacific Islander interests. Our capital city’s public hospital, for example, now has a policy placing Maori and Pacific patients to the front of the waiting queues. The Maori economy, now reportedly worth $40 billion as a result of constant payouts for governments’ claimed transgressions – some actual, and others now demonstrably reinvented, injustices in the past – has resulted in neo-tribal money corrupting our universities. Disgracefully, the latter will now not back any research-funded proposals, regardless of their merit, which do not prioritise Maori interests. Priority places are reserved for entry into medical, dental and law schools, etc. on the basis of any degree of Maori genetic inheritance – racist criteria replacing what should be entry based on merit.

    It is getting worse. Scores of millions of dollars have been poured into reinventing an almost completely inauthentic ‘Maori language’ replacing English, our most important national and international language, for place names, for streets, throughout government and local government organisations for every service possible.

    Aotearoa, a completely inauthentic substitute claimed as the Maori alternative name for New Zealand, is now being promoted, appearing on our passports and currency. The media, hospitals and other institutions have been told to use supposed, often incomprehensible Maori greetings to begin and end written and spoken communications.

    It is not only all lives that matter. Ethnic bullying – in and from whatever direction – also matters. The calculated and destructive promotion of identity politics is moving us closer towards, not further away from, its inevitable consequences.

  94. DrBeauGan

    That statement sums up why the non-left/conservative/libertarian/whatever side is losing. There is no fucking correct argument against the left , FFS. The left don’t do correct, rational or reasonable. It’s force which works because they’re cowards unless in a mob, or quarantining. The troll’s only goal in coming here is to distract and to destroy.

    All true, so why waste time debating them? It’s why I favour banning numbers. Most sane people admit they can be wrong, and cheerfully engage in debate with those who have different views in case they are. It’s what freedom of speech is all about, so in the beginning, I didn’t object to numbers and those trying to refute his arguments. But it didn’t take long to realise that numbers has quite different objectives; he just wants to disrupt. Treating him as a rational adults is a mistake, he isn’t. He’s a silly old coot with mental health issues.

    For some reason he gets under the skin of some here. I don’t understand why. He doesn’t get under mine, I recognise him for what he is and scroll past. I’m not prepared to give him a moment of my time. Life is too brief to waste any of it on silly old fools who behave like petulant children.

  95. MemoryFault

    We’re really never going to reach peak boomer are we?

    Twostix, how long are you going to keep this nonsense up?
    I’m a “boomer”, one of the older ones here, and I agree with you re the constitution. I’m also a Libertarian, another term you love to rubbish without having a bloody clue what it means.

    By and large you are a very valuable contributor here. It’s about time you started to recognise the real enemies instead of expending your energy barking at phantoms deliberately created to mislead you.

  96. Infidel Tiger King

    83 Tons Of Fake Gold Bars: Gold Market Rocked By Massive China Counterfeiting Scandal
    Mon, 06/29/2020

    Everything in China is a fraud or a fake.

    You can not believe a single thing they tell you. Their economic stats are so fraudulent it’s hilarious.

  97. egg_

    This is the same strain of stupid that was ordering us back in March to obediently obey every utterance of the bickering Supreme Leader Chief Medical Officers and their promises of 100,000 dead by April or you are a murderer.

    Or numpties saying Cops would fire* on assemblages of more than 500 on Bondi beach.

    BLM protests get a free pass during lockdown.

    *As I said at the time, if Plod tried firing on a bunch of Lebs at Bondi, their lives wouldn’t be worth living, if they survived the ordeal.

    But a midget with a gun thinks he’s King Dick.
    Political extremists of all stripes are just different sides of the same bad coin.

  98. incoherent rambler

    Life is too brief to waste any of it on silly old fools who behave like petulant children.

    Indeed.

  99. egg_

    Did you known that MLK suggested to a gay person that the “problem” was “culturally acquired”?

    MLK Snr was an Evangelical Preacher; the Godless Left would not like his values.

  100. Geriatric Mayfly

    Neither a rapper nor an aspiring rapper. Sad.

    The innocent Bronx basketball phenom gunned down Sunday night used his dying breaths to ask a friend to “call my mom,” one of his teammates told The Post Monday. Brandon Hendricks, 17, was at a birthday party in Morris Heights with friends when shots rang out, pal Hammad Singleton said as he described his friend’s final moments.

  101. ITK:

    Everything in China is a fraud or a fake.
    You can not believe a single thing they tell you. Their economic stats are so fraudulent it’s hilarious.

    Last night I was watching a video on “Did the Soviet Union ever Recover from WW2?” and it gave an interesting take on why there were so many documentaries on how the yearly harvest was shaping up, and how they set prices for goods in an economy that refuses to use market mechanisms.
    I think it’s about an hour long, but well worth the time.

  102. twostix

    Are you saying that anything that isn’t explicitly written in the Constitution is unconstitutional?

    Bizarre.

    We really are in idiocracy territory here.

    The constitution literally details how the system of government is designed and operates. There are detailed and intricate sections on the House of Representatives, the Senate, Parliament, Executive Council, the High Court, the States…strangely I’m not seeing the section called “National Cabinet” where the Prime Minister and premiers meet together weekly.

  103. Struth

    it is a fact that there are quite a few very smart people among them. The Australian Government Solicitor is paid handsomely to tell the Prime Minister “No, you cannot do that” when it is necessary to do so.

    FMD.
    Obviously, it’s not necessary to do so when the fuckwit will most likely be a screaming left wing nut job.
    No thanks, we don’t take our countries fate and put it into the hands of public servants you think may be smart.
    We have a thing called rule of law.
    Smart or not is irrelevant.
    And it’s being utterly trampled on and disregarded.
    That’s a fact, and it doesn’t mean that just because they are doing it somehow they know better than us regarding it.
    We have easily read constitutions precisely because they don’t need a degree in hieroglyphics to be interpreted.
    They are breaking the law.
    Not by having the “national cabinet” but by making laws by decree and using quarantine to do so, when Quarantine is a federal responsibility like defense, and 117 expressly forbids them discriminating entry to borders based on residency within the commonwealth.

    The outlaw behaviour is in your face and undeniable.
    They are making decrees they are not allowed to make constitutionally and fining people as if it were law.
    These decrees being unconstitutional are not laws debated in state parliaments but dreamed up by dead shit public servants with no grasp on the realities of the real world and an arrogance only the ignorant can smother themselves in.
    Quarantine by definition is separating out the sick or those that have been in contact with them, not to take the liberties and freedom of the healthy and put them under house arrest.
    And them allow leftists to do whatever they like in their thousands.
    They are doing what they like constitution be dammed and your fucking Government Solicitor, like most solicitors, to the PM is a criminal as well.
    At the ripe old age of 53 I am generation x, although I don’t go in for all that shit, however if I did, I would suggest Two stix has a valid point on the subject.

  104. Cassie of Sydney

    “Life is too brief to waste any of it on silly old fools who behave like petulant children.”

    BG…okay…and so we stand politely by and let them destroy our civilization. And you know what..it’s working a treat…they’re having a great time…and they’re winning!

  105. johanna

    twostix, care to mention where the Prime Minister is mentioned? The Cabinet?

    Are they unconstitutional as well?

    Really, this ‘everything which is not expressly permitted is forbidden’ approach to constitutional law is off the planet, fringe, totalitarian lunacy.

  106. twostix

    Chapter I—The Parliament

    Part I—General
    Part II—The Senate
    Part III—The House of Representatives
    Part IV—Both Houses of the Parliament
    Part V—Powers of the Parliament

    Chapter II—The Executive Government
    Chapter III—The Judicature
    Chapter IV—Finance and Trade
    Chapter V—The States

    Sorry National Cabinet.

    No room at the inn.

  107. MemoryFault

    83 Tons Of Fake Gold Bars: Gold Market Rocked By Massive China Counterfeiting Scandal

    I have no idea if this claim is true or false.
    What I do know is the last time I heard it was the late 2000’s, and it was the Yanks doing it because they had covertly spent all the real gold that was supposed to be in Fort Knox.

    The time before that was the mid 1990’s, when it was elements in Russia planning the rebirth of the Soviet Empire by destroying Western economies.

    It is becoming something of a perennial.

  108. johanna

    Cassie, dickhead trolls here are not destroying our civilisation, just the mental health of those who must respond like someone has hit their knee with a hammer, unable to control themselves.

    Drama queen, much?

  109. Mitch M.

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3499868, posted on June 30, 2020 at 4:07 pm
    ““Life is too brief to waste any of it on silly old fools who behave like petulant children.”

    BG…okay…and so we stand politely by and let them destroy our civilization. And you know what..it’s working a treat…they’re having a great time…and they’re winning!

    The only thing he is destroying is the OT.

    On the few occasions I have responded to Numbers is when he jumps in on a discussion. Then he goes away, not sure why, possibly because he knows I’m not going down his rabbit holes.

  110. Infidel Tiger King

    So there will come a time when MLK statues will need to come down for bad think. [Did you known that MLK suggested to a gay person that the “problem” was “culturally acquired”? And that a “good psychiatrist” can help get on the “right road toward a solution”?]

    Until recently the homo community agreed with him.

    Gay was a “choice”.

  111. johanna

    Oh, and twostix, you rate even lower than dot as someone I wouldn’t hire to get me off a parking ticket.

  112. Des Deskperson

    ‘I wonder if Des got it the wrong way round. To ask a person ‘are you Aboriginal’ was (I think) at one time considered offensive. As an adjective, it described the person as being related to an Aborigine, rather than identifying them as such.’

    Rafiki, my recollection is pretty clear – we were, after all, given an instruction not to use ‘Aborigine’ in any context – but I did a quick troll through current APS Indigenous policies and programmes, and I can’t find the terms ‘Aborigine’ or Aborigines’ in use anywhere. The correct noun form – for some time – has been ‘Aboriginal person’. That’s the way the former SBS employee in the comment above refers to her fellows.

    Don’t ask me to make sense of any of this.

  113. Natural Instinct

    The opposite of Annastacia Palaszczuk
    .

    The Courage To Say No
    .
    I wrote here about South Dakota’s Governor Kristi Noem, who is approaching heroic status. She stood alone against the tide of governors issuing stay-home fiats amid the coronavirus panic, taking the principled position that Americans are free people, not subject to arbitrary orders from their governors. What a refreshing idea! She also said that South Dakotans are smart–smart enough to do a better job of looking after their own health than the government could ever do. Therefore, her administration compiled and published data and gave advice, but she steadfastly refused to order anyone to do anything.
    .
    For that, she withstood a torrent of abuse from the likes of the Washington Post, the Associated Press and her home state newspapers. (Even in South Dakota, reporters are Democrats.)
    .
    On Wednesday, July 8, at noon Central, Center of the American Experiment will sponsor a webinar featuring Governor Noem. She will talk about her approach to the COVID epidemic, and how it has worked so far. (Preview: South Dakota has the nation’s lowest unemployment rate and a COVID fatality rate that is a fraction of Minnesota’s and most other states’.) You can sign up here.
    .
    I will ask her about the politics of COVID shutdowns. It seemed obvious to me that most governors were keeping an eye on one another, moving more or less in concert, on the theory that if they all did more or less the same thing they couldn’t be criticized. Like members of a cartel, they were horrified when one member of the group–Governor Noem–declined to participate and went her own way. That allowed a comparison of results that liberal governors were desperate to avoid, which I think accounts for the viciousness of the attacks on Governor Noem.
    .
    I may ask her about her interest in being on the GOP’s national ticket in 2024–a great idea in my opinion–and I definitely will ask her about reports that leftists may attack Mount Rushmore.
    .
    Not on my watch. https://t.co/U6gGap5Ib6
    — Governor Kristi Noem (@govkristinoem) June 23, 2020
    .

    Interesting comment about Presidential election 2024 – because that could pit her against Nikki Haley.

  114. egg_

    The Bible (from Koine Greek τὰ βιβλία, tà biblía, “the books”)[1][a] is a collection of sacred texts or scriptures. The Bible is generally considered to be a product of divine inspiration and a record of the relationship between God and humans by Christians, Jews, Samaritans, Rastafari and others.

    /Wikipedia

  115. MemoryFault

    Struth, Twostix,

    Much as I love her, Johanna is an ex public servant. Australian bureaucrats have always looked upon the Constitution as a pesky impediment to be worked around, rather than a rule book.

  116. Cassie of Sydney

    “Drama queen, much?”

    You’d know all about that..wouldn’t you?

  117. egg_

    The Bible (from Koine Greek τὰ βιβλία, tà biblía, “the books”)[1][a] is a collection of sacred texts or scriptures. The Bible is generally considered to be a product of divine inspiration and a record of the relationship between God and humans by Christians, Je ws, Samaritans, Rastafari and others.

    /Wikipedia

  118. DrBeauGan

    ““Life is too brief to waste any of it on silly old fools who behave like petulant children.”

    BG…okay…and so we stand politely by and let them destroy our civilization. And you know what..it’s working a treat…they’re having a great time…and they’re winning!

    No we don’t. When the time is right, we hang them from lampposts. The reason they are, briefly, winning, is that too many have failed to recognise the threat and its nature. It’s religious fundamentalism that we are up against, together with the habitual tolerance (and laziness) of the masses. Cussing at them isn’t serious enough for me. I want the instigators dead.

  119. Gilas

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3499848, posted on June 30, 2020 at 3:49 pm

    “You and I both know what’s really required for the job.”

    And what is that Gilas?

    “Organized” action of a more concrete kind, targeting institutions like the leftards do.
    If BLM, and their Australian metastases, can use physical violence, why can’t conservatives?
    It worked for BLM, Occupy Wall St., the Black Shirts, the Brown Shirts, Antifa etc… etc…
    Cromwell, Lenin, Mao, Uncle Ho, Castro etc.. didn’t achieve their aims solely through rhetoric.

    Polite discourse has gotten us to where we are now.

    And, yes, I know about the Zimmer frame brigade and their bravery.

    QED

    ..and speaking of cohenite:

    #3499347, posted on June 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Dillion, like Jacinta and Candice in the US, is spot on:
    When the facts fade to black
    Anthony Dillon Quadrant Online 29th June 2020

    An excellent discussion on conveniently ignored black-on-black savagery.

    An anecdote:
    A friend of mine did a medical elective term in a far Western NSW Hospital, in a town with a large Aboriginal population.
    He recounts the story of an Aboriginal guy with a broken leg, who kept presenting to casualty for treatment and requiring the provision of several sets of wooden crutches.
    Eventually the hospital ran out of crutches altogether.

    Why were several sets needed, one might ask?

    Because our good Aboriginal man kept breaking them on his wife’s skull.

    She eventually presented for a skull X-Ray: this showed the thickest bone structure the ED doctors ever saw.

    This raises the obvious questions:
    Why did they keep replacing broken crutches to the same person? And for free? And did they ask questions? Or call the Police?

    Well, Aborigines were special, even way back in the early 1980s.
    The sh!t we see today, in relation to our dear natives and their treatment by Govt., didn’t just begin yesterday.

  120. Cassie of Sydney

    “Cussing at them isn’t serious enough for me. I want the instigators dead.”

    That’s why I love you BG.

  121. Cassie of Sydney

    “Gilas
    #3499889, posted on June 30, 2020 at 4:24 pm”

    We agree Gilas.

  122. egg_

    Doesn’t this “National Cabinet”* BS derive from a War Cabinet scenario?
    The precedent was probably set with Legislation during the “War on Terror” BS.
    Metadata recording.
    Now tracking Apps.
    Big Brother stuff.

    *Numpties enabling a fake pandemic to be put on a War footing, with all of the trappings.

  123. dover_beach

    I see SCOTUS has ruled against Louisiana state law regulating abortion. Roberts the deciding vote.

  124. Boambee John

    Curtin University Centre for Aboriginal Studies director and Noongar woman Professor Marion Kickett shared Mr Eggington’s disbelief and said the use of terms such as “Aborigine” were outdated and politically incorrect.

    Time to cancel Ernie Dingo, the oh so politically correct Missy Higgins, and other members of the cast of Bran Nue Dae who joined together happily singing a song featuring the line “Everyone wants to be an aborigine”.

    The revolution is now eating its own, but if Ernie D goes, perhaps we will be rid of the invented Welcome to Country!

  125. zyconoclast

    The St. Louis homeowners seen exercising their 2A rights defending their property, now come out as woke BLM supporters.

    Armed St. Louis protesters broke iron gate, threatened couple before they drew their own guns, attorney says

    Any minute now… the appearance of nooses, bleach, a subway sandwich, Nigerian body builders and a pick up truck with some god ol’ boys in MAGA hats

  126. Boambee John

    Doesn’t the word Aborigine simply mean native born?

    No, but that other favourites of the politically correct, indigenous/indigene, do. Everyone born here is an indigenous indigene. Some are also indigent. And others are indignant.

  127. Dr Faustus

    83 Tons Of Fake Gold Bars: Gold Market Rocked By Massive China Counterfeiting Scandal

    Peter: I don’t think the fake bullion got into the gold market.
    It was offered as collateral to a bunch of Chinese wood-duck financial institutions as security for a 20 billion yuan loan to the Wuhan Kingold Jewellery Company – an investment grade PRC Nasdaq listing.

    Presumably someone will end up at the wrong end of a 7.62 over this.

  128. DrBeauGan

    Cassie, dickhead trolls here are not destroying our civilisation, just the mental health of those who must respond like someone has hit their knee with a hammer, unable to control themselves.

    Johanna, Cassie may be over-reacting to numbers with verbal violence but in identifying a serious threat to our civilisation, I think she is right. There really is a concerted push to destroy everything that is the basis of our civilisation. From the family, to STEM, it’s all there. Numbers himself isn’t worth a second’s thought, but the source of his repulsive ideas needs to be taken very seriously indeed.

  129. Struth

    You use numbers to expose the idiocy.
    Take for example the Hitler and the Nazis were right wing.
    He spent a long time just throwing mud like the left do, facts be dammed.

    In the finish his ONLY reason for thinking the Nazis were right wing is because they were racists.
    Seriously.
    That’s the level of insanity and idiocy that we need to expose.
    That’s the level of left wing history and political knowledge,……der….dey waz wacist………
    In a way, he is better than most other lefties who won’t engage because the truth is unimportant to them and they don’t need reason to get in the way of their emoting.
    He is so thick he comes on here and slings mud, but when you bait him and he is arrogant enough to argue, he gets slammed.
    He is our “Example” lefty to be shown to the lurkers for the true vacant, a historical morons the left are.
    It’s why Sinclair likes him here, because he loses….always, he disappears or he makes a dick of himself, either way, it’s a good thing.
    They should be fought at all times.

    No good having your arse stuffed with left wing cock while you pronounce it wasn’t really worth humoring them.
    They’re after your civilisation, your wealth, your freedom, your choice, not your tolerance or engagement.
    These last few months are proof ignoring them doesn’t make them go away.
    Do you need more proof?
    No.
    Ban them from your homes.
    Take the moral high ground which truly is ours.
    Lefties are not welcome in my home.
    That includes relatives and inlaws and I will not tolerate them for a second.
    People know not to bring them around.
    Ask them if they agree with the protests and if they do, wipe them from your lives.
    Get in first, it’s a great feeling.
    Then have many parties with the normal people and have some fun.
    They are the minority.
    Make them own their leftism.
    There needs to be consequences, and I for one won’t let a fuck wit using a free speech platform to spread socialist bullshit without being challenged, ………………it’s fun and good for your soul.
    Repressive responses are no good for your health.
    Go on.
    Grab a bat and start swinging, “punch a Nazi” as donut boy has said himself, all quite just and fair in their eyes.
    If it’s good enough for them to say, well, we know who the Nazis are………………………….don’t we Sniffy McBrownshirt?

    Get stuck in…….

  130. calli

    My initial gut feeling about the St Louis gun toters was correct. They looked “soft”.

    Suddenly Guns R Good when it comes to protecting property. Particularly one modelled after Euro palaces. You don’t expect progressive white lawyers to live in dog boxes do you?

  131. Pedro the Loafer

    Counterfeit gold bars have been around since the pre history.

    I am astonished that the chunks counterfeited 83tons of gold bars using copper as a base. This fakery could have been detected in minutes by any half competent metallurgist.

    Obviously nobody checked the bona fides of the gold or did any purity testing before loaning out great stacks of Monopoly money on the strength of the size of the stash.

    If you are going to counterfeit gold, use tungsten as the inner base, it has a specific gravity of 19.25 as against gold which a specific gravity of 19.32. Copper’s SG is around 8.5.

    I have seen some stunningly good counterfeit gold ingots using tungsten, and the only positive way to detect the counterfeit was by destructive testing and analysis, which is no problem for raw ingots, but may destroy any collector value for minted ingots or coins.

  132. C.L.

    Our authorities waved through this bloke to work as a GP.

    He is clearly retarded on several levels:

    A Sydney GP accused of sexually assaulting sleeping patients has told a jury a 16-year-old consented to receiving “alternative treatment” involving him placing his genitals in her hand.

    he 49-year-old, who supervised overnight sleep studies, has told his NSW District Court trial he performed tantric healing on two of the patients involving his genitals.

    During an October 2018 police interview, Dr Khorami was presented with a screenshot from overnight CCTV footage showing him placing his penis on a 16-year-old patient’s hand.

    Today he told the court she had told him she was 17.

    “I got consent from her because legally she can make decision about alternative treatment … any sort of medical treatment,” he said.

    “She was not sleeping, she wanted to take this experience.”

    At the same time, he took her blood pressure.

    He told the court this was not something he normally did but was “a special treatment for some patients”.

    The doctor said he trained for “many, many years” to perform the treatment, which was “not masturbation”.

    “Masturbation is for sexual reason, but it’s totally different,” he said.

    The complainants were aged between 16 and 29.

  133. Frank

    Arnost
    #3499847, posted on June 30, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    MLK had some stories associated with him that would be problematic for the me too movement as well.

  134. Zatara

    I imagine that there are a lot of Republican voters in the highly populace areas, such as California and New York (and other strongly Democratic areas), who don’t bother voting due to the Electoral College, and there being no real point.

    Nah. When you sit down to vote in the US the ballot isn’t simply about the Presidential election. On that same ballot will be contests for Congress, Senate, state offices, local offices, Judges, referendums on various proposed laws, etc.. The damned ballot can be 4-5 pages long actually.

    That being said, the electoral college only impacts the Presidential vote. So no, nobody stays home because of the electoral college, unless they are complete idiots who don’t understand the system.

    In the 2016 election for instance, if a candidate won the state popular vote, they won the state’s electoral college votes. So Trump didn’t just win the electoral college vote 304-227, he also won the state vote 34-22.

    The comparison of counties won is even more illustrative. Note that while Trump lost California for instance, he won 26 of the 58 California counties. If he had flipped 4 more he would have won the state (and 55 more electoral college votes).

    It’s always worth a vote because you just don’t know.

  135. MemoryFault

    And, yes, I know about the Zimmer frame brigade and their bravery.

    Gilas,
    It was very much the “Zimmer Brigade” and their younger followers who organised and attended the Anzac Day Dawn Services across Australia, risking arrest in the process, while most Catallaxians obediently stayed at home.

    It is said that from little acorns mighty oak trees grow, but is not time yet.
    One of two things has to happen first.

  136. Boambee John

    strangely I’m not seeing the section called “National Cabinet” where the Prime Minister and premiers meet together weekly.

    I don’t think there is a specific mention of Cabinet, nor of such a creature as a Prime Minister.

    Your point is?

  137. Infidel Tiger King

    My initial gut feeling about the St Louis gun toters was correct. They looked “soft”.

    Suddenly Guns R Good when it comes to protecting property. Particularly one modelled after Euro palaces. You don’t expect progressive white lawyers to live in dog boxes do you?

    Have you seen the inside of their home?

    My God.

    https://www.stlmag.com/design/a-decades-long-renovation-returns-a-midwestern-palazzo-to-it/

  138. Top Ender

    You think Oz has it bad? Check out the bold sections re New Zealand:

    Do all lives still matter? Or only those blessed by identity politics?

    Amy Brooke

    America itself cannot be called a racist country. A racist country would not have elected Barack Obama as its president.

    It’s highly selective to sloganise, ‘Black Lives Matter’. All lives matter. While the death of George Floyd, a victim of police brutality, has appalled people the world over, it is good to see measured responses coming in reaction to the deliberately fostered violence, looting and arson by those manipulating emotional mobs for their own purposes. Where was this same mob when blonde Justine Ruszczyk, originally from Sydney, was killed by Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor in 2017? Having called 911 after hearing a woman’s screams behind her home, she was shot in the stomach approaching his car. Where were the riotous protests then? And does Rush Limbaugh have a point when stating, ‘If what happened to George Floyd had happened to a white man, we probably wouldn’t even have heard about it’?

    There are good policemen and trigger-happy policemen. The constant threat of violence which police themselves face has made this unenviable job one of the least attractive in the world. This doesn’t excuse the shocking cruelty George Floyd received. But what respect is being shown to Terrence Floyd, pointing out that George, his brother, would not have wanted the catastrophic societal consequences engineered by those deliberately encouraging violence? Evidence includes the depositing of useful material for breaking shop windows and bussing in groups from different areas – including outside Minnesota.

    Given the human condition, there will always be individuals with racist views. However, it can well be argued that these are now in a minority, given the world’s appalled reaction to the crimes committed against various targeted ethnic groups as recently as this preceding century. In the slow inching towards progress, the reality of the barbaric treatment human beings are capable of inflicting on one another – as with the Nazi targeting of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, dissidents, the physically and mentally disabled – was once again brought home when blacks were slaughtering blacks in the Rwanda genocide.

    The 1960s Civil Rights movement exposed ordinary Americans to the evil exhibited by white supremacists targeting blacks with discrimination and violence. The fight against such undoubted racism has long been supported by the majority of the white population. Moreover, the wonderful Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King Jr, has pointed out that it was black people who first shipped their fellow black people as slaves around the world and that many of the white and other peoples who helped form America’s melting pot suffered their own forms of oppression, often with the Irish, Polish and Chinese targeted. The murderous Pol Pot butchered fellow Cambodians, and the despotic Chinese ruler, Xi Jinping, is today targeting his own people –not just the M uslim Uigurs, but Christians and the Falun Gong, appallingly confined alive while their organs are removed in this now shockingly oppressed communist country.

    But where are the official protests from Western governments prioritising trade with this evil regime over all moral or ethical considerations? Where is the outcry about countries like Saudi Arabia, where women, virtually slaves of men, are held in such subjugation that they are forced to wear head-to-toe coverings and can be punished horribly by their male relatives for perceived transgressions – to be executed, even stoned alive? Where are the marches and the condemnation?

    What about the killing of our unborn children by abortion, the leading cause of death worldwide in 2019? The 42.3 million pre-born babies violently destroyed in their mother’s womb were already distinct individuals in their own right – each with its own unique DNA. But where are the media cameras eager to report the marches of pro-life groups, who, forming peaceful protests, are likely to be targeted by insults, aggression and violence? What of the media’s irresponsibility in conniving at – or even arguably fanning – mob violence by giving more attention to typically aggressive protesters than peaceful individuals making a stance for these unborn children?

    The black writer, Thomas Sowell, has warned that ethnic minorities can bully majorities. Endemic racism will be claimed – when in fact the opposite exists. In New Zealand, the police stood by, making a mockery of their responsibility for law enforcement during the Covid-19 lockdown – if Maori groupings were involved – and when a close-packed Auckland crowd of 4,000, some giving black power salutes, demonstrated against what happened in Minnesota.

    New Zealand now has reverse racism with successive governments funding bureaucracies prioritising Maori and Pacific Islander interests. Our capital city’s public hospital, for example, now has a policy placing Maori and Pacific patients to the front of the waiting queues. The Maori economy, now reportedly worth $40 billion as a result of constant payouts for governments’ claimed transgressions – some actual, and others now demonstrably reinvented, injustices in the past – has resulted in neo-tribal money corrupting our universities. Disgracefully, the latter will now not back any research-funded proposals, regardless of their merit, which do not prioritise Maori interests. Priority places are reserved for entry into medical, dental and law schools, etc. on the basis of any degree of Maori genetic inheritance – racist criteria replacing what should be entry based on merit.

    It is getting worse. Scores of millions of dollars have been poured into reinventing an almost completely inauthentic ‘Maori language’ replacing English, our most important national and international language, for place names, for streets, throughout government and local government organisations for every service possible.

    Aotearoa, a completely inauthentic substitute claimed as the Maori alternative name for New Zealand, is now being promoted, appearing on our passports and currency. The media, hospitals and other institutions have been told to use supposed, often incomprehensible Maori greetings to begin and end written and spoken communications.

    It is not only all lives that matter. Ethnic bullying – in and from whatever direction – also matters. The calculated and destructive promotion of identity politics is moving us closer towards, not further away from, its inevitable consequences.

  139. Infidel Tiger King

    I see SCOTUS has ruled against Louisiana state law regulating abortion. Roberts the deciding vote.

    Worst President in history?

    Woodrow Wilson or GWB?

  140. Zatara

    So Trump didn’t just win the electoral college vote 304-227, he also won the state vote 34-22.

    Whooops. Make that 30-20. Brain working slower than fingers.

  141. Geriatric Mayfly

    I am astonished that the chunks counterfeited 83tons of gold bars using copper as a base. This fakery could have been detected in minutes by any half competent metallurgist.

    Even Billy the Blind Miner would know by picking up a piece of Cu (29 on the Periodic Table) then a chunk of Au 79.

  142. egg_

    Quarantine by definition is separating out the sick or those that have been in contact with them, not to take the liberties and freedom of the healthy and put them under house arrest.

    The new State Health legislation seems to give Health Ministers and their Agents extraordinary powers; Cops fining a mother for giving her daughter driving lessons during Social Distancing/lockdown is beyond the pale.

  143. Top Ender

    You think Oz has it bad? Check out the bold sections re New Zealand:

    Do all lives still matter? Or only those blessed by identity politics?
    Amy Brooke

    America itself cannot be called a racist country. A racist country would not have elected Barack Obama as its president.

    It’s highly selective to sloganise, ‘Black Lives Matter’. All lives matter. While the death of George Floyd, a victim of police brutality, has appalled people the world over, it is good to see measured responses coming in reaction to the deliberately fostered violence, looting and arson by those manipulating emotional mobs for their own purposes. Where was this same mob when blonde Justine Ruszczyk, originally from Sydney, was killed by Minneapolis police officer M ohamed Noor in 2017? Having called 911 after hearing a woman’s screams behind her home, she was shot in the stomach approaching his car. Where were the riotous protests then? And does Rush Limbaugh have a point when stating, ‘If what happened to George Floyd had happened to a white man, we probably wouldn’t even have heard about it’?

    There are good policemen and trigger-happy policemen. The constant threat of violence which police themselves face has made this unenviable job one of the least attractive in the world. This doesn’t excuse the shocking cruelty George Floyd received. But what respect is being shown to Terrence Floyd, pointing out that George, his brother, would not have wanted the catastrophic societal consequences engineered by those deliberately encouraging violence? Evidence includes the depositing of useful material for breaking shop windows and bussing in groups from different areas – including outside Minnesota.

    Given the human condition, there will always be individuals with racist views. However, it can well be argued that these are now in a minority, given the world’s appalled reaction to the crimes committed against various targeted ethnic groups as recently as this preceding century. In the slow inching towards progress, the reality of the barbaric treatment human beings are capable of inflicting on one another – as with the Nazi targeting of J ews, Gypsies, homosexuals, dissidents, the physically and mentally disabled – was once again brought home when blacks were slaughtering blacks in the Rwanda genocide.

    The 1960s Civil Rights movement exposed ordinary Americans to the evil exhibited by white supremacists targeting blacks with discrimination and violence. The fight against such undoubted racism has long been supported by the majority of the white population. Moreover, the wonderful Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King Jr, has pointed out that it was black people who first shipped their fellow black people as slaves around the world and that many of the white and other peoples who helped form America’s melting pot suffered their own forms of oppression, often with the Irish, Polish and Chinese targeted. The murderous Pol Pot butchered fellow Cambodians, and the despotic Chinese ruler, Xi Jinping, is today targeting his own people –not just the M uslim Uigurs, but Christians and the Falun Gong, appallingly confined alive while their organs are removed in this now shockingly oppressed communist country.

    But where are the official protests from Western governments prioritising trade with this evil regime over all moral or ethical considerations? Where is the outcry about countries like Saudi Arabia, where women, virtually slaves of men, are held in such subjugation that they are forced to wear head-to-toe coverings and can be punished horribly by their male relatives for perceived transgressions – to be executed, even stoned alive? Where are the marches and the condemnation?

    What about the killing of our unborn children by abortion, the leading cause of death worldwide in 2019? The 42.3 million pre-born babies violently destroyed in their mother’s womb were already distinct individuals in their own right – each with its own unique DNA. But where are the media cameras eager to report the marches of pro-life groups, who, forming peaceful protests, are likely to be targeted by insults, aggression and violence? What of the media’s irresponsibility in conniving at – or even arguably fanning – mob violence by giving more attention to typically aggressive protesters than peaceful individuals making a stance for these unborn children?

    The black writer, Thomas Sowell, has warned that ethnic minorities can bully majorities. Endemic racism will be claimed – when in fact the opposite exists. In New Zealand, the police stood by, making a mockery of their responsibility for law enforcement during the Covid-19 lockdown – if Maori groupings were involved – and when a close-packed Auckland crowd of 4,000, some giving black power salutes, demonstrated against what happened in Minnesota.

    New Zealand now has reverse racism with successive governments funding bureaucracies prioritising Maori and Pacific Islander interests. Our capital city’s public hospital, for example, now has a policy placing Maori and Pacific patients to the front of the waiting queues. The Maori economy, now reportedly worth $40 billion as a result of constant payouts for governments’ claimed transgressions – some actual, and others now demonstrably reinvented, injustices in the past – has resulted in neo-tribal money corrupting our universities. Disgracefully, the latter will now not back any research-funded proposals, regardless of their merit, which do not prioritise Maori interests. Priority places are reserved for entry into medical, dental and law schools, etc. on the basis of any degree of Maori genetic inheritance – racist criteria replacing what should be entry based on merit.

    It is getting worse. Scores of millions of dollars have been poured into reinventing an almost completely inauthentic ‘Maori language’ replacing English, our most important national and international language, for place names, for streets, throughout government and local government organisations for every service possible.

    Aotearoa, a completely inauthentic substitute claimed as the Maori alternative name for New Zealand, is now being promoted, appearing on our passports and currency. The media, hospitals and other institutions have been told to use supposed, often incomprehensible Maori greetings to begin and end written and spoken communications.

    It is not only all lives that matter. Ethnic bullying – in and from whatever direction – also matters. The calculated and destructive promotion of identity politics is moving us closer towards, not further away from, its inevitable consequences.

  144. Zatara

    Love it calli!

    I hadn’t seen that one.

  145. Struth

    And Johanna , if you put as much effort into picking fights with leftists as you do with everyone else here, you might be of some use.

    I thought that many years ago we left the right wing “we’re too civilized to humour lefties with argument” line when it became abundantly clear playing nice was for fucking idiots who do not understand the left for a second.
    When Abbott got rolled by trying to placate both sides, wasn’t that the straw that broke the “turn the other cheek’s” back?
    When was that again?
    I loved Trump from the moment he fought back against that stupid bitch reporter trying to out him as Miss oggy nest.
    Fighting back causes the left to go insane.
    It’s why they’ve locked down the west, are rioting in the streets and knocking down things and statues that can be rebuilt, and literally going insane……London taxi cabs are racist because they’re black!!!
    All because
    One bloke fought back.

    I wonder what 100 fighting back could do.

  146. H B Bear

    Australia’s most progressive State still going backwards I see.

  147. cohenite

    I want the instigators dead.

    Ok, what method are we going to use. Spectacle, discrete, flamboyant, run of the mill. Flaying, Iron Maiden, Keelhauling, Scaphism, The Scold’s Bridle. Room for a lot of creativity here. or the simple chunk way: a 9mm and a bill for the bullet to the family.

  148. egg_

    MLK had some stories associated with him that would be problematic for the me too movement as well.

    MLK Jnr had his “groupies” and Edgar J likely kept track.

  149. C.L.

    I honestly don’t think it’s fair to blame Bush for Roberts’ moral cowardice.
    Everything he decides as a jurist is a denial of his own conscience and intellect – in the service of his yearning for admiration from people who will only give it to those who suffocate the truth.
    He should remember there is a Judge higher than him.

  150. Cassie of Sydney

    “Worst President in history?

    Woodrow Wilson or GWB?”

    I would say GWB

  151. old bloke

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3499918, posted on June 30, 2020 at 4:47 pm

    Have you seen the inside of their home?

    My God.

    That looks like the servant quarters at my place, only smaller.

  152. H B Bear

    Have you seen the inside of their home?

    My God.

    There’s a man who irons his jeans.

  153. cohenite

    Trump looking for another nickname for sleepy joe. Any suggestions.

  154. Infidel Tiger King

    Trump looking for another nickname for sleepy joe. Any suggestions.

    Marxist Joe
    Puppet Joe.

  155. MemoryFault

    This is what you call courage:

    +100 C.L.

  156. JC

    Trump looking for another nickname for sleepy joe. Any suggestions.

    Oh, how about Mr President.

    Tim Pool
    @Timcast

    Last week I received my application for a mail in ballot

    At the same time an actual mail in ballot arrived for someone who doesn’t live in my house

  157. DrBeauGan

    I want the instigators dead.

    Ok, what method are we going to use. Spectacle, discrete, flamboyant, run of the mill. Flaying, Iron Maiden, Keelhauling, Scaphism, The Scold’s Bridle. Room for a lot of creativity here. or the simple chunk way: a 9mm and a bill for the bullet to the family.

    All of the above. For whoever is funding Antifa, spectacle. For numbers and average lefties, the scolds bridle plus a ducking and a week in the stocks. We should be proportionate.

  158. Arnost

    MLK had some stories associated with him that would be problematic for the me too movement as well.

    Indeed – maybe a bit of a hypocrite under today’s mores…. but he was a product of his time. And as a rock star of the time had all the (expected) groupie benefits associated!

  159. Zatara

    Have you seen the inside of their home?

    My God.

    And he’s a civil rights lawyer. So guess who probably paid for all that?

  160. Mark A

    Bit of irreverence.

    Baptizing Paddy

    Paddy is stumbling through the woods, totally drunk, when he comes upon a preacher baptizing people in the river.
    He proceeds into the water, subsequently bumping into the preacher.

    The preacher turns around and is almost overcome by the smell of alcohol, whereupon, he asks him, “Are you ready to find Jesus?”

    Paddy shouts, “Yes, oi am.”

    So the preacher grabs him and dunks him in the water.

    He pulls him back and asks, “Brother, have you found Jesus?”

    Paddy replies, “No, oi haven’t found Jesus!”

    The preacher, shocked at the answer, dunks him again but for a little longer.

    He again pulls him out of the water and asks, “Have you found Jesus, me brother?”

    Paddy answers, “No, oi haven’t found Jesus!”

    By this time, the preacher is at his wits end and dunks the drunk Paddy again — but this time holds him down for about 30 seconds, and when he begins kicking his arms and legs about, he pulls him up.
    The preacher again asks him, “For the love of God, have you found Jesus?”

    (get ready for this…..)

    Paddy staggers upright, wipes his eyes, coughs up a bit of water, catches his breath, and says to the preacher,
    “Are you sure this is where he fell in”?!!

  161. egg_

    Trump looking for another nickname for sleepy joe

    Pinocchijoe

  162. areff

    “Worst President in history?”

    1/ Wilson

    2/ Mrs Wilson

  163. Arnost

    Trump looking for another nickname for sleepy joe. Any suggestions.

    Slow Joe … jus biden his time till ehmm you know – the thing!

  164. calli

    And he’s a civil rights lawyer

    Personal injury? ie. ambulance chasers.

  165. cohenite

    With (sleepy) joe I’m trying to work demented into an alliteration; not working; Antifa doesn’t work either. What about China joe.

  166. calli

    Joe Joe.

    He won’t hear you the first time.

  167. Zatara

    Personal injury?

    Nah the kind that sues the Govt for violating your civil rights, normally right after you got arrested for violating someone else’s.

  168. cohenite

    And he’s a civil rights lawyer

    He’d be suing government on behalf of aggrieved minorities: big paydays in the US where fee loading and taking a (big) % of the award is legal. Not so in Australia.

  169. Pedro the Loafer:

    I have seen some stunningly good counterfeit gold ingots using tungsten, and the only positive way to detect the counterfeit was by destructive testing and analysis, which is no problem for raw ingots, but may destroy any collector value for minted ingots or coins.

    I thought ultrasound was a reasonably effective non destructive test?

  170. Makka

    Morale within the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) is currently at a “record low,” thanks to the ongoing Black Lives Matter protests and the vilification of police by local politicians.

    Robert Harris, the director of the Los Angeles Police Protective League, told CBS Los Angeles that officers feel “beaten” and “bruised” by the ongoing protests.

    That was corroborated by a Breitbart News source within the LAPD, who said: “Morale across the rank-and-file is at a record low. Especially out on the street in patrol. We have been vilified and abandoned by the mayor, all but three of the city council members, as well as many business owners and residents of the city of Los Angeles.”

    Mayor Eric Garcetti announced at the height of the riots in early June — with the National Guard on the streets — that he would be cutting the LAPD budget by up to $150 million, answering calls from activists to “defund the police.”

  171. DrBeauGan

    I have seen some stunningly good counterfeit gold ingots using tungsten, and the only positive way to detect the counterfeit was by destructive testing and analysis, which is no problem for raw ingots, but may destroy any collector value for minted ingots or coins.

    I thought ultrasound was a reasonably effective non destructive test?

    Archimedes hit on one, two and a half millennia ago.

  172. calli

    I see Andrews wants to share the luurrrve

    He has also requested that international flights be diverted from Melbourne for the next fortnight, to cut the number of arrived travellers who need to be housed in hotel quarantine.

    “I haven’t got the answer from the Commonwealth yet but I’m pretty sure the answer will be yes, there will be no further flights arriving,” he said.

    “Today’s flights will be the last ones for a period of two weeks.”

    From ABC (I clicked so you don’t have to.)

    Neat way of getting other States’ figures up.

  173. JC

    We should shut the gates on these fucks. It’s a disease a minute with them.

    T
    CHINA: New strain of influenza virus found in pigs in China can possibly be transmitted to humans and needs to be observed, according to scientists.

  174. Boambee John

    He has also requested that international flights be diverted from Melbourne for the next fortnight, to cut the number of arrived travellers who need to be housed in hotel quarantine.

    “I haven’t got the answer from the Commonwealth yet but I’m pretty sure the answer will be yes, there will be no further flights arriving,” he said.

    “Today’s flights will be the last ones for a period of two weeks.”

    And here I was, thinking that the border was closed!

  175. calli

    Archimedes hit on one, two and a half millennia ago.

    My favourite bedtime book for kiddies. The pictures are lovely.

  176. Infidel Tiger King

    Sorry guys.

    They’re ambulance chasers.

    Lifelong libs, newly minted Trump voters I would say.

  177. Nick

    He has also requested that international flights be diverted from Melbourne for the next fortnight, to cut the number of arrived travellers who need to be housed in hotel quarantine.

    He’s just admitted that foreigners are a source of infection. Watch the media say nothing.

  178. calli

    So I opined yesterday. PINOs to be safe until it all blows over.

  179. I have seen some stunningly good counterfeit gold ingots using tungsten, and the only positive way to detect the counterfeit was by destructive testing and analysis, which is no problem for raw ingots, but may destroy any collector value for minted ingots or coins.

    Really? Wouldn’t an X ray give off different spectral data based off the outer electron shells, not density?

    I am a little shocked that spectroscopy isn’t that advanced. Don’t they have different magnetic properties too? I thought gold was diamagnetic but tungsten was paramagnetic. Couldn’t you test this?

    Probably not feasible…

  180. egg_

    New strain of influenza virus found in pigs in China can possibly be transmitted to humans and needs to be observed, according to scientists.

    Hey – let’s have another lockdown to save the Grannies!

    /Numpties

  181. egg_

    New strain of influenza virus found in pigs in China can possibly be transmitted to humans and needs to be observed, according to scientists.

    Can we send our CMOs to observe in close quarters?

  182. egg_

    They found the new strain has been predominant among pigs since 2016.

    One in 10 pig farm workers tested also showed elevated levels of the virus in their blood, particularly those aged 18 to 35 years old.

    Tests showed that any immunity humans gain from exposure to seasonal flu does not provide protection from G4.

    The researchers said they are concerned the virus could mutate so that it can pass from human to human and spark a global outbreak.

  183. JC

    Really? Wouldn’t an X ray give off different spectral data based off the outer electron shells, not density?

    Gold bars are not like you see on tv – shiny and gleaming. Older bars have that gold tarnished look, which really takes the excitement away.

  184. Harlequin Decline

    Trump looking for another nickname for sleepy joe. Any suggestions.

    Ga Ga Joe.

  185. DrBeauGan

    Archimedes hit on one, two and a half millennia ago.

    My favourite bedtime book for kiddies. The pictures are lovely.

    So they’re still reach the advantages of thinking about things? The schools don’t seem to bother these days.

  186. Roger

    He’s just admitted that foreigners are a source of infection.

    Those furriners would be recently minted citizens returning from exotic climes abroad.

  187. cohenite

    Green activist defaces Dickens museum because Dickens was racist. Iron Maiden for this prick.

  188. egg_

    There’s no evidence that G4 is circulating in humans, despite five years of extensive exposure,” he said on Twitter after the paper’s publication.

    “That’s the key context to keep in mind.”

    The study was published in the US journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

    /Panic merchants

  189. JC

    We’re heading out for a quick dinner. This is the first time since early march that I have eaten out. And you know what, I didn’t miss it really. That doesn’t include takeaway of course.

  190. Makka

    He’s just admitted that foreigners are a source of infection. Watch the media say nothing.

    Turks and Sudanese in the north are the culprits. This is just camouflage and deception.

  191. Steve trickler

    Murder Hornets.



  192. egg_

    That doesn’t include takeaway of course.

    How frequently do Uber Eats drivers wash their hands between deliveries?

  193. miltonf

    I call the geriatric crook Joe Bidet

  194. woolfe

    New name for Joe? Obviously “The Thing”

  195. Eyrie

    “Cussing at them isn’t serious enough for me. I want the instigators dead.”

    Extinct is better.

  196. Roger

    Green activist defaces Dickens museum because Dickens was racist.

    This is becoming absurd.

    The whole world was “racist” in the 19th C.

    And most of it still is.

    Travel the world with your eyes and ears open and you’ll discover that the least “racist” societies are Western democracies.

  197. miltonf

    Wow what a piece of shit.

  198. calli

    Driver the Defacer must suffer the fate of Krook in Bleak House.

    I bet he hums of brimstone too.

  199. DrBeauGan

    Green activist defaces Dickens museum because Dickens was racist. Iron Maiden for this prick.

    Too quick. Something lingering, with boiling oil in it.

  200. Nick

    Palacechook sounds like she’s a moron. A genuine one.

  201. dover_beach

    Have you seen the inside of their home?

    My God.

    Interior is lovely. Exterior is ordinary.

  202. calli

    Or Rigaud in Little Dorrit. The building looks too sturdy though.

  203. liliana

    This is the green fuck who defaced the Charles Dickens Museum:

    What a complete plonker. Clearly the ‘ex-councillor’ has never travelled or he would realise that western nations are the least racist places on earth. Suggest he visit South Africa and talk to some of the displaced local tribespeople there.

  204. MemoryFault

    I hope the Doomlord is keeping a watchful eye on the comment count.
    2500 is looming up awful fast, and it’s only Tuesday.

  205. Steve trickler

    👍 to the bloke.



  206. cohenite

    I must admit I thought the next war would be between the West and the fucking RoP but it looks as though it’ll be a race war with left-wing whites acting on behalf of the non-whites (whether they want it or not) against the rest of the whites. The chunks will be waiting in the wings.

  207. DrBeauGan

    What a complete plonker. Clearly the ‘ex-councillor’ has never travelled or he would realise that western nations are the least racist places on earth. Suggest he visit South Africa and talk to some of the displaced local tribespeople there.

    He doesn’t need an education. He has the Green faith.

  208. dover_beach

    Everything he decides as a jurist is a denial of his own conscience and intellect – in the service of his yearning for admiration from people who will only give it to those who suffocate the truth.
    He should remember there is a Judge higher than him.

    Roberts relied on stare decisis even though the fact situation here could be distinguished from Whole Women’s Health, so his leaning on principle is pure theatre. Vermeule is right, originalism is a dead letter.

  209. rickw

    I see SCOTUS has ruled against Louisiana state law regulating abortion. Roberts the deciding vote.

    Like a plate of jelly.

  210. MatrixTransform

    Coronavirus Australia live news: Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews reimposes lockdown in COVID-19-hit Melbourne suburbs

    I wonder what demographic is over-represented in those lock-down suburbs … ?

  211. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3500003, posted on June 30, 2020 at 5:57 pm
    Green activist defaces Dickens museum because Dickens was racist.

    This is becoming absurd.

    The whole world was “racist” in the 19th C.

    And most of it still is.

    Travel the world with your eyes and ears open and you’ll discover that the least “racist” societies are Western democracies.”

    Yes Roger..and isn’t it funny how it took white western Europeans to outlaw slavery in the 19th century….no other racial group outlawed slavery..not Asians, not Africans, not Arabs, not Maoris, not Indians……oh and an incredibly vicious civil war was fought in America with the loss of over half a million men…but you know what, we are now living in a “post-fact” society where nobody is interested in facts and figures, all they care about are “feelings”…..and they are only feelings based on progressive leftist lies. And all of this destruction has nothing to do with “racism”…they don’t give a shit about “black lives”….what it is about is the left destroying western civilization….and despite being accused of being a “drama queen” earlier, I don’t think I am being overly dramatic or exaggerating what is happening in the west.

  212. MemoryFault

    despite being accused of being a “drama queen” earlier, I don’t think I am being overly dramatic or exaggerating what is happening in the west.

    Good evening Cassie.
    You aren’t, and you’re not.
    And it’s only just beginning.

  213. Makka

    Is Antiques Roadshow the best show on the tellie?

  214. Nick

    OC Democrats, Weary Of John Wayne 1971 Playboy Interview, Want His Name Dropped From SNA Airport

    “Duke” was interviewed by Playboy magazine in 1971. The far-reaching interview touched on many issues of race and history, with Wayne offering the following quips:

    On racial equality:

    “I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.”

    On slavery:

    “I don’t feel guilty about the fact that five or 10 generations ago these people were slaves.”

    On Native Americans:

    “I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that’s what you’re asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.”

  215. Cassie of Sydney

    “MemoryFault
    #3500026, posted on June 30, 2020 at 6:33 pm”

    Thanks MF….appreciated.

  216. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3500023, posted on June 30, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    Cassie, 👍

  217. egg_

    Teh Dumb
    Peter Strong, Small Business Australia: Unemployment could potentially go to 16% (when JobKeeper ends, most likely).
    That will be one Hell of a cliff for the Economy, as a whole.

  218. Farmer Gez

    I wonder what demographic is over-represented in those lock-down suburbs … ?

    Doesn’t really matter.
    Victoria was down to two or three community transmissions until the security and staff at quarantine hotels funnelled disease from overseas arrivals back into the population.

    This is a catastrophic failure of oversight and management and nobody is to blame except Dan Andrews and his bunch of super woke incompetents.

    Anyone who has any experience with security companies and staff wouldn’t dream of putting them in any position of responsibility that could endanger the whole state. Only a fuckwit would do that.

  219. rickw

    Is Antiques Roadshow the best show on the tellie?

    Only when it’s in the UK and someone turns up with Great Uncle Marmadukes .455 Webley and Sword that he used to single handedly subdue 500 Natives and dissuade them of their brutish practices before converting them to Christianity.

  220. Carpe Jugulum

    Is Antiques Roadshow the best show on the tellie?

    No, not really

  221. egg_

    Teh Dumb
    SloMo dropping hints on Radio that people on JobSeeker aren’t looking for work?

    He’ll cut JobSeeker before JobKeeper?

  222. rickw

    Coronavirus Australia live news: Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews reimposes lockdown in COVID-19-hit Melbourne suburbs

    Will we ever escape this Full Retard?

  223. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3500034, posted on June 30, 2020 at 6:38 pm”

    Thank you BBS.

  224. egg_

    Anyone who has any experience with security companies and staff wouldn’t dream of putting them in any position of responsibility that could endanger the whole state.

    Big Leb owned and operated Enterprises in NSW.

  225. egg_

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews reimposes lockdown in COVID-19-hit Melbourne suburbs

    Is he truly legally empowered to do so?

  226. Arnost

    Ga Ga Joe.

    That gets a vote!

  227. Makka

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1277816621248114688

    Andy Ngô
    @MrAndyNgo
    Steven Lopez, a BLM protester, kills photographer who supported the movement in Louisville. Many online initially blamed the killing on a white supremacist.

  228. Roger

    Yes Roger..and isn’t it funny how it took white western Europeans to outlaw slavery in the 19th century….no other racial group outlawed slavery..not Asians, not Africans, not Arabs, not Maoris, not Indians…

    Not just whites, but white Christians, cassie, and the abolitionist movement stretches back to the middle ages.

    And no, you’re not a drama queen.

  229. Palacechook sounds like she’s a moron. A genuine one.

    Factcheck status: True.
    She may have stayed at my pub a few times. Not only a complete airhead, but a hateful elitist along with it.
    She’s born to rule & is well practiced at tottering along on her hind trotters while the rest of us are supposed to walk on all four while chanting “Four legs good, two legs better”

  230. rickw

    Anyone who has any experience with security companies and staff wouldn’t dream of putting them in any position of responsibility that could endanger the whole state.

    Big Leb owned and operated Enterprises in NSW.

    Private security is the second largest protection racket in Victoria, after Vicpol. Also run by Lebs.

    Female Chicom friend of the misus broke up with a Vic Leb in the security industry and took him to the cleaners. I fully expected her to wind up dead. Gutsiest takedown I’ve ever seen.

  231. Cassie of Sydney

    “Not just whites, but white Christians, cassie, and the abolitionist movement stretches back to the middle ages.”

    Yes…apologies…..white European CHRISTIANS. In fact it was CHRISTIANITY that was at the core of the abolitionist movement.

  232. Cassie of Sydney

    Andy Ngo is a hero.

  233. liliana

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3500023, posted on June 30, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    ……..what it is about is the left destroying western civilization….and despite being accused of being a “drama queen” earlier, I don’t think I am being overly dramatic or exaggerating what is happening in the west.

    Ignore them. I have said this for years and I believe this exactly what is going on. They are not even trying to hide it anymore.

  234. Arnost

    Supreme Court Clears Way For Federal Executions To Resume

    https://www.npr.org/2020/06/29/884656127/supreme-court-clears-way-for-federal-executions-to-resume

    ANTIFA beware! If you get charged under domestic terrorism laws, the path is clear to do a bit of a permanent cleanout.

  235. rickw

    ANTIFA beware! If you get charged under domestic terrorism laws, the path is clear to do a bit of a permanent cleanout.

    Only way to fix that level of retardation.

Comments are closed.