Draw your own conclusions

1 business day after ASIO and the Federal Police raided the home of a NSW Parliamentarian comes this.  Draw your own conclusions.

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49 Responses to Draw your own conclusions

  1. nb

    Apposite:
    U.S. Should Sanction All Members of China’s Communist Party—Elmer Yuan on COVID 19, HK Security Law

  2. Chris M

    Instead of pulling down statues that whole fake university needs to be demolished with the circus ringmasters tarred and feathered.

  3. tombell

    I should be gobsmacked – but I’m not.

  4. Rossini

    Any wonder Australians with 1/2 a brain try to minimize their taxes.
    But then again the stupid government subsides Renewable Energy.

  5. Professor Fred Lenin

    The consul should move to Melbourne , the maxist government would make him feel as if he was bac home in China. None of this racist crap against Chinese Communists there. Money get lots of favours in Melbourne.

  6. Struth

    Until we get the UN and China out of our governments and parliaments, we aren’t going to get them out of our universities.
    Da revorution will be paid for by does stupid kangaloo dogs of USA.

  7. Bronson

    Wonder if UQ heads have received their letters from the lady at the Feds about acting as agents of a foreign power?

  8. thefrollickingmole

    If Im getting the connection right, the UQ has a Chinese diplomat using their funds to assist defending against a student assaulted by Chinese students who may have been directed/encouraged to do so by Chinese diplomat??

    Wonderful stuff.
    Our best and brightest in action.
    They should probably lecture us on refugee or some other moral issues more.

    UQ has more student mobility, research collaborations, and commercialisation partnerships with China than with almost any other country. The strong linkages are a result of long-standing partnerships with Chinese institutions, particularly the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and some of the country’s most influential industry bodies and organisations, including Baosteel and the National Natural Science Foundation of China.

    11,117
    Chinese students enrolled at UQ

    1269
    China-UQ co-publications

    208
    academic staff born in China

    54
    research project collaborations

    14,278
    alumni in China

    180
    agreements with 97 official partners

    https://confucius-institute.centre.uq.edu.au/

  9. Alain

    Imagine if someone told you 20 years ago something like this wold happen? you wouldn’t have believed them.

    We’ve sold our souls to the Devil and now he is coming to collect.

    This is our fault, our hubris and greed for cheap products just made them bigger.

    Is anyone here going to stop shopping at Kmart?
    Is anyone going to stop buying cheap made in China Bunnings tools?

    We need to De-couple ASAP and stop buying cheap sh*t from china, not because there products are poorly made (some are some aren’t) but because every $ we spend goes to the CCP

  10. JohnL

    We need to De-couple ASAP and stop buying cheap sh*t from china, not because their products are poorly made (some are some aren’t) but because every $ we spend goes to the CCP

    Where do you suggest we buy products from?

  11. George Gell

    Will the Attorney General of Queensland prosecute the vice chancellor of UQ for misappropiriation of university funds? If not, why not?

  12. twostix

    Imagine if someone told you 20 years ago something like this wold happen? you wouldn’t have believed them.

    Are we swamped enough by asian politics yet?

  13. Speedbox

    Many of us have been saying for years that the CCP are not to be trusted. They have infiltrated many aspects of our society and most alarmingly, appear to have an unhealthy influence over a handful of politicians.

    It bewilders me that others can’t see the real intent of the Belt & Road program, the CCP’s malevolent actions with ‘debt traps’ for developing countries, the appalling treatment of the Uyghur, suppression of Hong Kong , increasingly overt threats to Taiwan, the South China Sea, cyber attacks, IP theft …..the list goes on and on.

    Meanwhile, Australian Universities have acted like whores and are dripping with the syphilis of their actions – yet, they don’t care. Instead, they look to next year’s batch of Chinese students and the income they will bring to pay the exorbitant salaries of the VC and others.

    The CCP is a petulant bully when it doesn’t get its own way with trade tariffs and dark threats of more to come. Drew Pavlov is just another example of the spiteful and venomous reality that is the CCP.

  14. Fisky

    So-called “free trade” has allowed thuggish political interference and intimidation onto Australian soil. If we don’t put a stop to it we’ll soon lose our sovereignty.

  15. Fisky

    It bewilders me that others can’t see the real intent of the Belt & Road program, the CCP’s malevolent actions with ‘debt traps’ for developing countries, the appalling treatment of the Uyghur, suppression of Hong Kong , increasingly overt threats to Taiwan, the South China Sea, cyber attacks, IP theft …..the list goes on and on.

    And that list was only current up to a fortnight ago. We have since seen the PLA invading Indian territory, killing about two dozen of their soldiers, and even annexing a Nepalese village (what the hell did Nepal ever do???).

    Really odd that “free traders” want to continue with business as usual.

  16. twostix

    The population of china: 1000 million.

    Australia: 20 million.

    Universities are hotbeds of CCP infatuation (tyranny-curious academics riffing “it may not be perfect but the elites in China can Get Things Done is a familiar theme emanating from academia”) and open borders internationalism. That they are coincidentally the conduit through which a million chinese loyalists are moving into Australia is becoming more than a serious problem for their future.

  17. twostix

    – yet, they don’t care. Instead, they look to next year’s batch of Chinese students and the income they will bring to pay the exorbitant salaries of the VC and others.

    It may be that, or it maybe that in 2020 universities are culturally more aligned with CCP values than yours.

  18. Robber Baron

    Hanson was right about the Chinese many many years ago. But no one in the elite classes respected her opinion because she thinks and acts like working class Australians; the people that the elites despise.

    The sooner the working classes stop paying their taxes the sooner we will see change.

  19. Deplorable

    So-called “free trade” has allowed thuggish political interference and intimidation onto Australian soil. If we don’t put a stop to it we’ll soon lose our sovereignty.

    Too late that went some time ago after Politicians of all sides sold us out. We just go through the motions now .

  20. Speedbox

    Fisky
    #3498958, posted on June 29, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    Indeed. (Rui is a tiny village and the CCP would consider Nepal a soft target unable to adequately respond).

    Separately, the CCP approach is to test the resolve of the target or, the resolve of the world more generally and then, sometimes, pull back just enough to silence the critics. The CCP’s actions in the South China Sea are a textbook example.

    JohnL
    #3498941, posted on June 29, 2020 at 1:47 pm

    Where do you suggest we buy products from?

    China is not the world’s only manufacturing source.

    Just 2 weeks ago I had to buy a new washing machine and made the conscious effort to buy one made elsewhere than China. Several of the major brands are manufactured in China but I purchased a well known brand that is manufactured in Europe. The exercise cost me an additional $280 over a comparable Chinese manufactured version, but I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is.

    Accepted that it isn’t always possible, but at least make an effort to buy elsewhere.

  21. Archivist

    But no one in the elite classes respected her opinion because she thinks and acts like working class Australians

    Her intonation, accent, and word choice are distinctly rural working class, and her way of speaking alienates urban middle class Australians. Call it snobbery if you like, but that’s the reality. She is not a conduit for mainstreaming political ideas.

  22. Another Ian

    “Good news: ‘Hundreds, if not thousands’ of universities will soon be ‘walking dead.’ ”

    From the link

    ” “An NYU professor of marketing says the coronavirus will result in many schools closing in coming years. Students aren’t getting their money’s worth, and the pandemic has exposed that, he says.” ”

    Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/06/28/whats-the-opposite-of-diversity-36/

    Maybe worth bringing to the attention of James Cook Uni and U of Q?

  23. jupes

    No doubt Sarah Chidgey, the deputy secretary of the Integrity and International Group, from the Attorney General’s Department (remember her?), will be all over this, demanding UQ produce ­documents under the government’s Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme.

    Then again, she probably considers the Chicoms far less of a threat than Tony Abbott and CPAC.

  24. Dr Faustus

    The Chinese Government co-funded at least four University of Queensland courses

    The university’s vice-chancellor, Professor Peter Høj, was until recently [2019] a senior consultant to Beijing’s global Confucius Institute Headquarters (Hanban) and a member of its powerful governing council, which is responsible for more than 500 institutes operating in universities and schools across the world.

    Six years spent in the Mouth of Xi will do things to a man.

  25. rickw

    Where do you suggest we buy products from?

    If you go to Bunnings as an example, you can see that they are now stocking increasing quantities of Australian, USA and UK made products at a very small premium.

    Sticking it to the CCP with respect to purchases is entirely possible.

  26. vr

    Won’t this be covered by diplomatic immunity?

  27. Frank

    If you go to Bunnings as an example, you can see that they are now stocking increasing quantities of Australian, USA and UK made products at a very small premium.

    Are they though, or just Chinese counterfeits designed to sop up those sections of the market? I remember the guy at the battleship telling me to beware of Chinese fake Tanqueray gin of all things. Nothing is sacred.

  28. Frank

    bottleshop not battleship

  29. Professor Fred Lenin

    What is wrong with collaboration between two socialist countries ,its perfectly nstural for like minded people to havd social i tercourse ,( as Paedo Joe Biden calls it) .
    Removing Chinese students would render many good socialist lectureres and professors redundant and unempluable , I mean who wants a CCP trined academic ?
    Wonder if this situation would exist if we had a Real Liberal party instead of the turnbull turncoats ?

  30. TFX

    Can we apply existing laws to the University of Queensland staff, students and foreign associates?
    CRIMES ACT 1914 – SECT 24C
    A person who engages in a seditious enterprise with the intention of causing violence, or creating public disorder or a public disturbance, is guilty of an indictable offence punishable on conviction by imprisonment for not longer than 3 years.

  31. Squirrel

    We’ll know it’s really getting serious when Morrison starts wearing double-breasted suits.

  32. TFX
    #3499091, posted on June 29, 2020 at 5:29 pm

    Can we apply existing laws to the University of Queensland staff, students and foreign associates?
    CRIMES ACT 1914 – SECT 24C
    A person who engages in a seditious enterprise with the intention of causing violence, or creating public disorder or a public disturbance, is guilty of an indictable offence punishable on conviction by imprisonment for not longer than 3 yea

    Good get. But also what does the Commonwealth Criminal Code say?

  33. Roger

    I suspect the Chinese C-G in Brisbane also organised the harassment of Autralian swimmer Mack Horton at his family home.

  34. Twostix:

    It may be that, or it maybe that in 2020 universities are culturally more aligned with CCP values than yours.

    Valid point you’re making there, Twostix.

  35. John Comnenus

    Shut it down, totally. Remove every research grant, HECS fee, subsidy, tax payer support of any time. All the surrounding Unis will soak up the students & research grants.

  36. Crossie

    Universities are planning to hold back the start of the Spring semester to allow Chinese students to complete their quarantine once they arrive. It seems domestic students don’t seem to merit any consideration, the entire tertiary education sector is now geared to the international intake.

  37. Roger

    The sooner the working classes stop paying their taxes the sooner we will see change.

    The taxes of the working classes are taken out of their pay before they receive it.

    Handy, that.

  38. miltonf

    It seems domestic students don’t seem to merit any consideration, the entire tertiary education sector is now geared to the international intake.
    Another Howard era abomination.

  39. Des Deskperson

    ‘No doubt Sarah Chidgey, the deputy secretary of the Integrity and International Group, from the Attorney General’s Department (remember her?), will be all over this, demanding UQ produce ­documents under the government’s Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme.’

    I can’t find UQ on the register.

    Brisbane Chinese Consul-General Xu Jie is definitely a ‘foreign principal’ under the terms of the Act.

    Whether his relationship with the UQ comes under the definition of an activity ‘undertaken for the purpose of political or government influence’ is another matter.

    I don’t think that the Act was intended to cover the UQ situation, which is already out in the open although not, perhaps, entirely transparent.

  40. mh

    Roger
    #3499123, posted on June 29, 2020 at 5:54 pm
    I suspect the Chinese C-G in Brisbane also organised the harassment of Autralian swimmer Mack Horton at his family home.

    My first thoughts.

  41. Boambee John

    Des D

    Re Chidgey.

    On a related subject, there are Registers of Interests for politicians. Are there similar registers for senior public servants (and academics)?

    It would be useful to know, for example, if a senior public servant in Environment had significant interests in renewables, or an academic who regularly provides advice or commentary on international relations has financial links with foreign governments.

  42. JohnL

    Just 2 weeks ago I had to buy a new washing machine and made the conscious effort to buy one made elsewhere than China. Several of the major brands are manufactured in China but I purchased a well-known brand that is manufactured in Europe. The exercise cost me an additional $280 over a comparable Chinese manufactured version, but I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is.

    Europe is not a country. There are many countries in Europe, most of them are in the EU. Similar to here, most of the consumer goods in shops are made in China. If you paid $280 on top of Chink made, that machine would be out of reach of EU consumer unless they are Germans. Workers, especially those from former communist countries are on 6 – 7 hundred Euros a month and are buying Chink’s goods including washing machines.

  43. Entropy

    He is probably talking of companies like Bosch, which has various tiers of machines at different quality levels. Top tier =Germany, mid tier = Spain, and bottom tier = Turkey/ China.

    Such a strategy would not work here. At present. People get what you mean when you say “German Quality”. It doesn’t float as well if you say “Australian Quality”.

  44. Struth

    So looking at all the comments above the conclusion is, we’re fucked.
    It’s done.

    And it is.

  45. Mitchell Porter

    Before he found his current status as a figurehead of Australia’s anti-China resistance, Pavlou was a Labor-left type who said e.g. Joh Bjelke-Petersen’s body should have been burned in a trash bin. If Australia has to choose between associating with China’s economic Marxists and associating with America’s cultural Marxists, I prefer China.

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