Wednesday Forum: July 1, 2020

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  1. Cassie of Sydney

    Numero Uno.

  2. Tony Tea

    Carl Reiner – hats off.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    First five?

  4. notafan

    Tax return time.

    Yeah!

    ATObgoing to be handing out lots of refunds.

    Double yeah.

  5. Carpe Jugulum

    Top Ten Woo Hoo

  6. stackja

    Home And Away star Lynne McGranger’s unexpected blow up
    She plays a much-loved character on Home And Away, but in real life Lynne McGranger has no problem telling the world how she feels after lashing out at a political leader, calling him out as “a clown.”

    Jonathon Moran, Chief Entertainment Writer, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |
    July 1, 2020 6:00am

    Until this story, I had never heard about her.

  7. stackja

    notafan
    #3500389, posted on July 1, 2020 at 9:01 am
    Tax return time.

    My accountant handles it.

  8. a happy little debunker

    ‘Their ABC’ proudly celebrates first women of Lifesaving – while ignoring the actual accomplishments of pioneering women between 1904 & 1935.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    This is extremely Orwellian:

    Khan’s London: Met Police Hiring ‘Racism Spotters’ to Examine Prospective Officers (30 Jun)

    Recent advertisements from the Cressida Dick-led Metropolitan Police were promoting 50 open racism spotter positions, with those hired to work for at least 25 days per year. Prospective hirees are not required to hold any experience or qualifications in the field to be employed, though it is unclear what would qualify someone to judge if an officer is racist or not.

    “The Met obviously shouldn’t be hiring officers who hold overtly racist views. But it is clearly an unreasonable use of public money to pay community assessors such huge sums when the basic salaries for police officers remain so low,” David Spencer of the Centre for Crime Prevention told the newspaper.

    Be nice to the commissar, comrade, or you will be cancelled.

  10. Farmer Gez

    Neil Mitchell 3aw warming up to the task of tearing strips of doofus Dan.
    It’s fun to go around town and speak to the people who thought he was doing such a great job and was putting Victoria in the best position in Australia.
    I don’t say much, they know.

  11. MemoryFault

    Looks like the Doomlord finally got out of bed.

  12. Some History

    HA HAA

    Nick the “moral giant”

    Nick Kyrgios takes on Boris Becker over Zverev’s apparent coronavirus quarantine breach

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-01/kyrgios-brands-becker-a-doughnut-over-covid-19-argument/12408756

  13. MemoryFault

    No rest for the wicked.
    Time to do some work.

  14. H B Bear

    Chairman Dan is about as popular as a bat sandwich in a wet market.

  15. H B Bear

    Are you now, or have you ever been, a racist?

  16. Johno

    Nick Kyrgios is a really nice guy in private company. He just hates the hypocricy of the news cycle and the reporters pets.

  17. H B Bear

    Kyrgios was right. For once.

  18. Ellen of Tasmania

    “Black lies matter, not because they are black, but because they are lies. White lies matter for the same reason and in the same way. White lies and black lies don’t use separate bathrooms — they actually live in the same sewage lagoon. And I have been reliably informed that there have been times when Asians have lied, and that’s bad also.

    If you object to me singling out black lies, aren’t you really objecting to your own arbitrary and ever-changing standards? You’re the ones who manufacture those rubber yard sticks. And you’re the ones who made them so stretchy. Two months ago it had to be “black lives matter,” and now you are the soul of bigotry if you won’t say “black trans lives matter.” And whatever it is you are getting the crowds to yell later this afternoon will be proof positive, if you dare yell it a year from now, that you are a white supremacist. The revolution devours her own, and the fact that you can’t see that is a key part of your blindness.”

    Read the whole thing here: https://dougwils.com/books-and-culture/s7-engaging-the-culture/black-lies-matter.html

    Or listen here (17mins):

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Australians in China should leave immediately, if they can.
    I suspect it’s too late though.
    Do not go there.

    China Promises ‘Vigorous Countermeasures’ Against Alleged Australian ‘Spies’ (29 Jun)

    China’s state-run Global Times published a lengthy report Sunday describing “vigorous countermeasures” supposedly taken by Chinese intelligence against a years-long espionage campaign waged by Australia.

    Tech and intelligence writers widely mocked the report, noting the Global Times dug up some 1960s spy paraphernalia to create the alarming photos that ran with the article, which came off as a sour-grapes effort by the Chinese to reverse widespread allegations of espionage against them.

    Other observers found the latest Chinese propaganda broadside to be no laughing matter, warning that Beijing could be setting the stage for taking Australian hostages, the way it has imprisoned Canadians in a bid to force that country to release Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou.

    Stern Hu was gaoled 10 years by China because Rio Tinto pissed them off. He was theoretically released in 2018, but there’s no confirmation of that that I can see, or whether he managed to get out of dodge. No Australian should visit the mainland or HK if you want to stay free.

  20. egg_

    Meetings are an addictive, highly self indulgent activity tat corporations and other organizations habitually engage in only because they cannot actually masturbate.

    I was once in a meeting with a narc Manager that took 3 hours and basically only had 2 agenda items – a slab of time was spent in a p1ssing contest between himself and a Deputy GM, who outranked him, about how many branch offices they’d visited and travelogue commentary about them.
    Oz H.O. of a Jap Multinational FFS.
    The bugman class bubble.

  21. Damon

    Surely it is time for the government(s) to recognise, first, that they are not going to ‘stamp out’ coronavirus by imposing dictatorial and draconian restrictions on the population, and second, that increasingly, the population will not stand for them.

  22. Tom

    Never forget that the 2020 Year Zero communist insurrection began with the diseducation of our children in the school system in the 1060s — long enough after World War Two for people to forget that it was fought to defeat totalitarian one-party state fascism, which the dark heart of the human race (the left) now believes it is on the verge of introducing in America.

    Long live freedom!

  23. egg_

    Chairman Dan is about as popular as a bat sandwich in a wet market.

    Locking down RoP ‘burbs is not a good move.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    Good Morning Everyone!!!

    Paul Krugman
    @paulkrugman
    Reality is coming for white supremacists driving golf carts.

    10:17 PM · Jun 30, 2020

  25. egg_

    Surely it is time for the government(s) to recognise, first, that they are not going to ‘stamp out’ coronavirus by imposing dictatorial and draconian restrictions on the population, and second, that increasingly, the population will not stand for them.

    Dan of the Dead’s war on the flu bug.
    Score?

    Bug: 2 Dan: 0

  26. Tom

    … diseducation of our children in the school system starting in the 1060s …

  27. stackja

    The siege of Vicksburg (May 18 – July 4, 1863) was the final major military action in the Vicksburg campaign of the American Civil War. In a series of maneuvers, Union Maj. Gen. Ulysses S. Grant and his Army of the Tennessee crossed the Mississippi River and drove the Confederate Army of Mississippi, led by Lt. Gen. John C. Pemberton, into the defensive lines surrounding the fortress city of Vicksburg, Mississippi.

    The Battle of Gettysburg was fought July 1–3, 1863, in and around the town of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, by Union and Confederate forces during the American Civil War. The battle involved the largest number of casualties of the entire war and is often described as the war’s turning point.[12][13] Union Maj. Gen. George Meade’s Army of the Potomac defeated attacks by Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee’s Army of Northern Virginia, halting Lee’s invasion of the North.

  28. cuckoo

    From the Victorian government’s COVID site:
    I live in a restricted postcode but I am currently on holidays – am I required to return home?
    From 11:59pm on 1 July, if you normally live in a restricted postcode but are on holidays elsewhere, you may continue that holiday.

  29. egg_

    Reality is coming for white supremacists driving golf carts.

    I self identify as Oprah in The Colour Purple.

  30. woolfe

    Our Bug Men overseers will probably allow travel to China as one of the first countries opened up.

  31. Cassie of Sydney

    I posted this on the other forum however I am posting again here as I recommend that everyone watch it…..it is an interview with David Starkey done a day or two ago….Starkey is unflinching in his condemnation of BLM, the upper middle class white woke activists who are defacing and smashing monuments and so on. It is really good listening…

  32. cuckoo

    Was chatting to a New Zealander recently and it was heartwarming to hear his tales of how, once you get away from media puppets and talk to real people, St. Jacinda of Ardern is about as popular as herpes.

  33. stackja

    Tom
    #3500428, posted on July 1, 2020 at 9:49 am

    John Dewey and the Decline of American Education
    Dewey’s Ideas Have Had Disastrous Consequences for American Education over the Past 50 Years
    Sunday, July 1, 2007

  34. Struth

    Surely it is time for the government(s) to recognise, first, that they are not going to ‘stamp out’ coronavirus by imposing dictatorial and draconian restrictions on the population, and second, that increasingly, the population will not stand for them.

    The population seems to be loving it.

  35. stackja

    Regarding Cat open threads. Hamsters feed hit by Victoria spike.

  36. Makka

    Mark Dice
    @MarkDice
    Leftist threatens to stab anyone who says “all lives matter.”

    https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1278100397245095936

  37. stackja

    ATO website crashes as Aussies rush to access $10,000 in superannuation savings
    The Australian Taxation Office website has crashed after a huge rush of cash-strapped Australians rushed to apply to withdraw another $10,000 in superannuation.

    Sophie Elsworth, National personal finance writer, News Corp Australia Network
    Subscriber only
    |
    July 1, 2020 10:01am

  38. Good morning all.
    Did I hear correctly that 200 odd union people were going to protest today after some colleagues were injured at work or somefink?
    And I was getting out of the car just as Neil Mitchell began an interview with Lisa Neville. Hopefully he got stuck in, wouldn’t hold my breath however.
    And funny how the karma bus smacked Hunchback, reversed back over him then forward leaving skidmarks on his fat head over his comments about Adelaide. Victoriastan, The Leper State

  39. notafan

    Read between the lines of the article.

    Sexual congress between hotel security staff and returnees in quarantine?

    what?

  40. EvilElvis

    The population seems to be loving it.

    The most pompously smug state just loves their lives being micro managed by the warm hug of Uncle Dan.

  41. Johno

    I have been inundated with robo calls and mail from the lib and lab parties for the by-election this saturday.
    I truly don’t think that either deserve a vote,but the other contenders are a miserable lot and don’t deserve a vote either. Ricardo is running dead, I doubt he will get a hundred votes. Why put your name on a ballot paper and not tell people what yopur platform is? Any suggestions for my vote people? I am going into Yass today to vote.

  42. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    it is an interview with David Starkey done a day or two ago….Starkey is unflinching in his condemnation of BLM, the upper middle class white woke activists who are defacing and smashing monuments and so on. It is really good listening

    Cassie – poor ol’ Starks is about as popular with social justice wankers/black imbeciles matter nutters as a ham sandwich in Lark-hemba.

    He’s been repeatedly denounced (since the 2011 riots in the UK) as a waycist for stating the bleeding obvious about the unrelenting stupidity of the offensive ignorant useless insoluble z-grade third world idiots and their white bugmen lickspittles that now blight western countries in uncontrollable numbers.

    The latter two groups need a copious dose of HOP Time therapy.

  43. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Any suggestions for my vote people?

    Riccardo B. Just remember, though Johno, if you number every box, at some point either the gliberal or labore numptie will end up with your vote. It will ultimately be a two candidate contest after all.

  44. Johno

    I am leaning that way Spurgeon, I just think it will be a useless gesture. Ricardo is unknown in this electorate

  45. Cassie of Sydney

    “Cassie – poor ol’ Starks is about as popular with social justice wankers/black imbeciles matter nutters as a ham sandwich in Lark-hemba.”

    I know Spurge….but it is a great discussion.

  46. H B Bear

    ATO ATO website crashes as Aussies rush to access $10,000 in superannuation savings crashes as Aussies rush to access $10,000 in superannuation savings

    Strangely having nearly10% of you wage quarantined for 40 years when you may/ may not have access to it is not very popular. Especially if you may not make this months mortgage payment.

  47. Mother Lode

    … diseducation of our children in the school system starting in the 1060s …

    Under William the Conqueror? The original Stormin’ Norman?

  48. Infidel Tiger King

    Let’s Start Our Own MAGA CHAZ!
    ·
    10h
    “Trump is running the stupidest and most self-destructive re-election campaign in modern history. Instead of disqualifying Biden, he’s disqualifying himself.”

    https://breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/30/nolte-joe-bidens-rope-a-dope-is-working-brilliantly-against-trump/… via
    @BreitbartNews

    Spot on.

  49. custard

    Happy New financial year especially to those Cats (Elvis and others) still trying to earn a living in this weird place post the WhuFlu.

  50. pete m

    Tom, you may want to check your year date too in your comment – 1960, not 1060.

    /pedant

    Got woken at 4am by a family member phone call. Never good, but luckily the old motherinlaw only broke a toilet seat when she feinted. Could have been much worse.

    I do wonder at moron doctors who tell an anaemic woman with already low blood pressure to starve herself prior to a procedure and not consider having her in hospital to do that might be a safer option than at home late at night when she needs to toilet and goes bang. Now she will be in ICU for 2 days getting more blood into her and procedure delayed.

    Life goes on – just the odd bump!

  51. Infidel Tiger King

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    IMPORTANT:

    Guys, the St. Louis couple are not Dems.

    It was a hoax to turn the right against them and too many of you are buying in.

    The real FEC filings show they’re actually Trump donors and supporters.
    11:13 PM · Jun 30, 2020·

    Question every single thing you read, see and hear from the media.

  52. H B Bear

    And most people won’t save enough to be better off than being on the age pension anyway.

  53. Dr Faustus

    Sexual congress between hotel security staff and returnees in quarantine?

    On Sunday the Premier said the spread of the virus among staff working in hotel quarantine may have come from people sharing a cigarette lighter and carpooling to work together.

    Carpooling: the new euphemism for the Horizontal Tango.

  54. stackja

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3500457, posted on July 1, 2020 at 10:25 am

    If MSM report it. It is wrong.

  55. If you have not voted yet get onto Daily Telegraph or Courier Mail and vote regarding new Aussie logo to replace the kangaroo. Designed by committee headed by Twiggy Forrest. Miranda Devine clearly not a fan. So far about 94% against it.

  56. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Volvo automobile factory at Chengdu, China is running on 100% renewable energy. Clearly, Volvo is doing its part to fight climate change and thereby to save the planet. My next car will be a Volvo. Just doing my part to save the planet.

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/06/30/climate-change-is-a-marketing-tool/

  57. Infidel Tiger King

    Twiggy is Australia’s Soros.

    You’ll find that out way too late. He buys trinkets for the plebs to distract them.

  58. Top Ender

    Important to know who’s who these days…

  59. H B Bear

    When will someone call time on Keating’s gift to the union movement.

    The only people making money from superannuation are the unions and mediocre Mosman fund managers.

  60. Infidel Tiger King

    Christophe Barraud🛢
    @C_Barraud
    Flag of European Union Flag of United States Earth globe americas *EUROPEAN UNION EXTENDS #TRAVEL BAN FOR U.S. RESIDENTS – BBG
    *EU LIFTS TRAVEL BAN FOR #CHINA, ON THE CONDITION OF RECIPROCITY
    *EU LIFTS TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS FOR #CANADA, #SOUTHKOREA, #THAILAND
    *EU LIFTS TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS FOR #AUSTRALIA, #NEWZEALAND, #JAPAN
    9:35 PM · Jun 30, 2020·

    What an evil place the EU is. Travel bans for Americans. None for China.

  61. H B Bear

    Twiggy is a spiv masquerading as a statesman.

  62. Frank

    Twiggy is a spiv masquerading as a statesman.

    Unrequited Napoleon complex.

  63. Johno,

    You might vote Riccardo conservative, McCrae libertarian or Potter (Conservative) or someone else who won’t get their deposit back, the majors get taxpayers cash $2.829 for each first preference vote.

    I put Labor-Lite (Kotvojs) third last, Trade-Union (McBain) second last and the New-Communists (Griff) stone-cold motherless last.

  64. Top Ender

    Link to Miranda Devine article with the poll for or against ditching the old kangaroo logo. May be paywalled.

    It takes a committee* to come up with a concept of getting rid of something unique to Australia and replacing it with a vomit spray.

    * = committee contains Turncoat and the Leprechaun so may not be representative of all committees.

  65. zyconoclast

    Former MythBusters co-host Adam Savage’s sister accuses him of repeatedly r****g her when they were children

    Miranda Pacchiana, 51, alleges that Savage a****d her repeatedly between the ages of 7 and 10 years old in the late 1970s

    In a lawsuit filed on Tuesday she claims Savage, who would have been between 9 and 12 years old, nicknamed himself the ‘r****g blob’, masking the abuse as a game

  66. Barry

    Coronavirus is now a sexually transmitted disease.

  67. Cardimona

    Cats, this letter got a run in today’s Gold Coast paper…

    HOW many serving politicians and bureaucrats in Australia are pushing 100 per cent wind and solar electricity? Thousands, right?

    Did you know that not one of them can explain how a modern, 24-hour, energy-dependent civilisation can run solely on intermittent, unreliable energy?

    Solar generates nothing at night; wind can be fitful, with dayslong wind droughts relatively common; where’s electricity come from then?

    Batteries, you say? On what date will affordable grid-scale batteries be invented? What will their chemistry be? What about their environmental effects?

    Pumped hydro, you say? You know it consumes a third of the power fed into it, right? Can you show me on a map where the dams would be built? Would greenies agree to their construction?

    Did you know we pay $2.5 billion per year as subsidies to wind and solar owners? If they’re “cheaper”, why do they need subsidies? And why have they doubled our power bills?

    How can anyone argue there are not more questions than answers with renewables? Why the urgency to adopt them when it’s so obvious that they’re not going to work?

    Why are wind and solar being promoted by our public servants (who are paid to be loyal to us) when nuclear beats it easily on every count?

    With the overwhelming body of empirical evidence that Earth is short of CO 2 , and that CO 2 doesn’t cause temperature changes, why are we against coal power in the first place?

    Why is this illogical, anti-civilisational rush to destroy our energy generators happening at all? Could it be driven by our ideological enemies?

    Where would you end up, do you think, if you were able to “follow the money”? Why isn’t every patriotic Aussie asking these questions, and more? What’s the end game? Anyone?

    For those who’ve read the UN’s 2030 Sustainable Development Agenda, two bonus questions: who’s steering the UN, WEF, and IMF and where have we heard their ideas before?

  68. zyconoclast

    The ‘comma effect’ on bias and Black lives
    That grammatical pause helps explain how racism thrives

    he comma effect.

    It shapes the nuance of bias in America. A person is described and we look at the qualifiers that follow the comma: The victim of vigilante justice, who smoked weed in junior high. The man who shot up a movie theater, but was an altar boy at his church.

    That comma wields great power. It can humanize, it can demonize, and although it takes a short breath to bring it to life, it can make a life lost seem inevitable or, most cruelly, a necessity. It is justice working in hindsight, hinting to us in code whether that grave outcome is deserved or if we should be sympathetic. Yet what comes after that comma often drips with bias in explaining what happened or what should happen.

    That grammatical pause helps explain how racism can grow, even thrive, generations after slavery ended. It is the jump ball where the referee throws the ball slightly to one side, sometimes intentionally. It is the fastball on the edge of the strike zone where the right call is blurred so completely that bias is all that is left to decide whether it is a ball or strike.

    But in this game of race in America, the stakes are truly life and death. The rules state that three strikes and you are out, but power is the true determinant of how those rules are enforced. And power is selective. Some get more than three strikes, others strike out before they even get up to the plate. And maybe worst of all, some get up to bat and every pitch is called a strike no matter where it crosses the zone.

  69. Eyrie

    “Designed by committee headed by Twiggy Forrest. ”

    Looks like a bad drawing of a Corona virus to me.

  70. Cassie of Sydney

    Sydney Watson says it very well…

  71. Cardimona

    WTF, Cats…
    Where’s Toms ‘toons?
    The OOF ended with K2 at 2359 on 30/06.
    The new OF started at 0854 01/07 with Cassie…

    How can I go on without Tom’s ‘toons…?!

  72. Shy Ted

    Reality is coming for white supremacists driving golf carts.
    In defending oneself from angry old spinsters who have no idea what they’re really angry about, is it best to use a wood or an iron?

  73. Boambee John

    It takes a committee* to come up with a concept of getting rid of something unique to Australia and replacing it with a vomit spray.

    Top Ender

    Actually, it looks like a gold plated Kung Flu corona virus, which seems appropriate.

  74. Rebel with cause

    Locals want it moved to another area as they claim it has created more drug use within the community

    Gutless. If the injection centre doesn’t work it should be shut down.

    This is the same as people who are in favour of public housing as long as it isn’t located near them. Cowards.

  75. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    The McCloskeys are good people.

    Personal injury lawyers.
    I’m sorry for your lost powers of perspective.

  76. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    That’s intended for the twitter mob, (I curse touchpads)

  77. EvilElvis

    Happy New financial year

    Cheers, custard! Hope things are still pumping in the world of land based isolation cruise vessels. May try to pop in over the next week. Things are happening, onwards and upwards!

  78. Cardimona
    #3500477, posted on July 1, 2020 at 10:51 am

    “With the overwhelming body of empirical evidence that Earth is short of CO 2 , and that CO 2 doesn’t cause temperature changes, why are we against coal power in the first place?”

    The burden of proof is on climate science. What we see from the other side of this issue is the absence of evidence that fossil fuel emissions are causally responsible for the current warm period.
    Details linked below.

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/05/18/12479/

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/06/11/chaoticholocene/

    As for batteries, all the batteries on earth right now could store no more than 10 minutes of global electricity needs.

  79. EvilElvis

    Best of luck with the re-opening/phased opening/derestricting, Salvatore.

  80. mh

    The McCloskeys are good people.

    Democrats ✔️
    Black Lives Matter supporters ✔️

    🤔

  81. EvilElvis

    Cats, this letter got a run in today’s Gold Coast paper…

    Said it before and I’ll say it again. Good man, Cardi. You’re a champ.

  82. Boambee John

    Cardimona

    Why are wind and solar being promoted by our public servants (who are paid to be loyal to us) when nuclear beats it easily on every count?

    Why is this illogical, anti-civilisational rush to destroy our energy generators happening at all? Could it be driven by our ideological enemies?

    Where would you end up, do you think, if you were able to “follow the money”? Why isn’t every patriotic Aussie asking these questions, and more? What’s the end game? Anyone?

    We have registers of pecuniary interests for politicians. Why do we not have similar registers for senior public servants and publicly funded academics and “influencers”, which would allow us to at least partially “follow the money”?

    Knowing if a senior public servant in the Environment Department, or an alarmist scientist receiving research grants also have financial interests in renewables might open a few eyes.

  83. Boambee John

    Eyrie

    Corona snap!

  84. cuckoo

    Had to sit through a training session on Zoom yesterday. It was about a standard file-sharing program being rolled out, so it should have been completely content-neutral. Nevertheless the young female trainer felt obliged to post her pronouns alongside her name, and when it came to demonstrating how to embed gifs in a post, chose an idiotic ‘Black trans lives matter’ animation. I like to think the response of stony silence from all participants sent her some kind of message. She probably expected applause or a few whoo’s. An older female colleague made no secret of the fact that she was knitting through the presentation.

  85. pete m

    Cardi, go to this thread for Tom’s toons:

    linky

  86. Infidel Tiger King

    Democrats ✔️
    Black Lives Matter supporters ✔️

    🤔

    Did you follow the link dumbkopf?

    That was a false report. They are lifelong Republicans and donors.

    Don’t get sucked in by the media.

  87. pete m

    An older female colleague made no secret of the fact that she was knitting through the presentation.

    The lefties cannot withstand our resistance!

  88. Eyrie

    It is said that there is a lot of ruin in a country. We are about to find out.
    I see Scott Marshmallow has announced a large defence increase. I suppose he knows we’re broke, does he?
    Besides the money will be wasted unless we put warriors in the military. I’d change Department of Defence to Department of War for starters.

  89. pete m

    IT – they may be all that but they also do civil rights pro bono work for black people, so that was hard for the outraged mob to digest.

  90. calli

    Clearly, Volvo is doing its part to fight climate change and thereby to save the planet. My next car will be a Volvo. Just doing my part to save the planet.

    Chuckle.

  91. Eyrie

    I’m starting to despise Scott M.

  92. Cassie of Sydney

    “Eyrie
    #3500511, posted on July 1, 2020 at 11:33 am
    I’m starting to despise Scott M.”

    What took you so long

  93. zyconoclast

    I’m starting to despise Scott M.

    What took you so long?

  94. zyconoclast

    missed it by that much

  95. Eyrie

    Just checked Jo Nova’s site. Yep, still Karening about the virus.

  96. calli

    IT – they may be all that but they also do civil rights pro bono work for black people, so that was hard for the outraged mob to digest.

    Life not black and white? Well I never!

    We need to know who our enemies are before we eviscerate them, not afterwards. It would save a lot of mess.

  97. Cassie of Sydney

    “I see Scott Marshmallow has announced a large defence increase.”

    I suppose any increase will just be used to pay for transitioning operations.

  98. calli

    Is there another Scott Morrison to despise? Please post his photo for dartboard duty. They other one’s distinctly holey.

  99. Cardimona

    Boambee John at 1118

    Excellent point!
    I’ll use that in a letter.
    ..

    pete m at 1125

    Thank you, much appreciated.

  100. mh

    Did you follow the link dumbkopf?

    That was a false report. They are lifelong Republicans and donors.

    Don’t get sucked in by the media.

    So how are they good people again?
    They looked ridiculous.
    Start shooting the fvckers, like the McMichaels, then I will call them good people.

  101. calli

    Just had my hair done so I’m feeling very feisty like the Noo Yok grannie on duty at the Museum of Natural History. I might go freeranging this afternoon in search of mouthy yoof to tell off.

    Shame we have no statues up here to protect.

  102. Des Deskperson

    ‘We have registers of pecuniary interests for politicians. Why do we not have similar registers for senior public servants ‘

    When I was in the SES, I was obliged to annually declare – in writing – any of my own and my immediate family’s financial and other interests that could cause a real or apparent conflict of interest with my employment.

    I believe that this requirement applies across the APS, including to agency heads .

  103. dopey

    pete m….. better check feinted.

  104. Makka

    “I see Scott Marshmallow has announced a large defence increase.”

    50 BILL wasted on useless subs isn’t enough?

  105. calli

    Thanks Nelson. Love Alaska and would go back in a heartbeat.

  106. Top Ender

    Police investigate indigenous baby’s death
    AMOS AIKMAN

    Police are investigating the death of a one-month-old Aboriginal boy in the troubled outback Northern Territory town of Tennant Creek.

    The tragic incident is understood to have occurred at a public housing property just a few doors away from where a toddler was raped in 2017, sparking a national outcry.

    The latest death comes less than a month after a four-monthold indigenous girl perished while her mother was in police custody in Katherine. It also follows the release last week of a shocking watchdog report into abuse in the child protection system.

    Officers were called shortly after 9am on Tuesday to a residence in Tennant Creek’s east side where a spokeswoman said they found “an infant … unresponsive”.

    “Paramedics transported the child to the Tennant Creek Hospital. He was pronounced deceased a short time later,” a spokeswoman said.

    “Investigations into the circumstances surrounding the death of the child are under way.”

    Doctors are understood to have tried unsuccessfully to resuscitate the boy. One official source cited cardiac arrest or respiratory failure as possible causes of death.

    Locals described seeing police tape and investigators around the property in Haddock Street until late in the day. Images on Google Maps show a single-storey, freestanding home with a high fence, bare yard and a pile of rubbish by the kerb.

    The boy’s parents were described as heavy drinkers, with an older child aged about two or three. The boy’s mother is believed to be part of a large Tennant Creek family and his father came from Elliot, about 250km north.

    A spokeswoman for Territory Families promised assistance for police “as required while they investigate this matter” but would not confirm if the boy or his relatives were known to the child protection agency or clients of its services.

    The rape in 2017 of a Tennant Creek toddler triggered a swift response from Northern Territory Chief Minister Michael Gunner and then prime minister Malcolm Turnbull.

    Their two governments signed the Barkly Regional Deal intended to address many of Tennant Creek’s social problems. Sceptics say little has changed in practice.

    Several agencies are now investigating the death in Katherine on June 7. It is understood that when police arrested the girl’s 21-yearold mother over a disturbance, they left the child with her father and grandfather, who had been drinking.

    One government source suggested the death in Tennant Creek might be cot death but another cited smothering, possibly related to alcohol abuse by a co-sleeping adult.

    One Tennant Creek local claimed the child’s parents had been seen the night before “walking around drunk” and suggested the baby might have got too cold.

    The Children’s Commissioner’s report, released last week, catalogued a horrifying series of abuses allegedly committed by two foster carers against 12 Aboriginal children over 16 years.

    Territory Families declined to remove two vulnerable youngsters still living with the foster carers, claiming the children had asked to remain where they were.

    SNAICC, a non-government body representing indigenous children, on Tuesday said it was “gravely concerned” by that decision.

    “For a government agency to place a child in an environment that is unsafe for their emotional and physical wellbeing is unacceptable, and until these failings are addressed it will continue to happen to our children,” chief executive Richard Weston said.

    “Too often, our children are treated as a number.”

    Oz print edition

  107. Ubique

    The most brilliant economic journalist of all time: Frederic Bastiat – happy birthday!

  108. calli

    Seventy three more cases in Victoria.

    And the maggots on Seven Sunrise were running clips of “Outbreak” and “Contagion” just to make sure people got really really worried. Let the shunning commence.

  109. Diogenes

    An older female colleague made no secret of the fact that she was knitting through the presentation.

    As I use a Surface Go in meetings lie that, I am always pretending to take notes. What I am actually doing is reading.

  110. Rayvic

    ” Like his “National Cabinet” colleagues, he took no action against June’s BLM germ-festival.

    Before turning a blind eye to the BLM germ festivals, “National Cabinet” members had negligently failed to rigorously screen travellers incoming from overseas, e.g. 2,500 Ruby Princess passengers, and numerous plane loads, thus introducing the virus to the community.

  111. Ubique

    “I see Scott Marshmallow has announced a large defence increase.”

    Retrofitting all Defence establishments and naval vessels with transgender toilet facilities and changerooms is expensive.

  112. Fascism as a political movement exhibits four basic criteria.

    First, fascism it is not an ideology, but an activity.

    Secondly, it has its own national characteristics.

    Thirdly, it promotes its leadership to personality cult status in a very easily recognisable and consistent manner.

    And finally, it identifies a group or race which is isolated and vilified as a threat to national security and progress.

    Fascism is clearly not an ideology because there is no universal and thoughtfully developed set of principles embedded in its structure. In this, it differs strongly from contemporary political ideologies such as capitalism and socialism. One notable feature of fascism is its capacity to absorb elements of these ideologies into its practice, embracing them when it is convenient, and rejecting them when its power is compromised.

    One definition is worth consideration –

    “a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry and commerce, and emphasising an aggressive nationalism and racism”..

    This definition is comprehensive enough to be useful and emphasises the fact that its practice is all about power.

    An examination of Spanish fascism under Franco, Italian fascism under Mussolini and German fascism under Hitler reinforces that notion. All three regimes were aggressively power based, ruthlessly suppressed criticism, and emphasized nationalism.

    The third characteristic of adulation of leadership is easily recognised in the history of the three examples listed above. This adulation is associated with slogans, images and mass gatherings. There is always a unifying concept, usually expressed as a slogan, or a simple idea. Hitler had his Third Reich, Mussolini had “Ill Duce ha sempre ragione” and Franco used “Una, Grande y Libre”.

    The groups identified as threats in Hitler’s Germany, were the J ews and the Communists. In Franco’s Spain and Mussolini’s Italy, they were intellectuals, separatists, communists and socialists.

    Applying these four tests to the current American political situation is useful.

    Donald Trump has no coherent ideology, unless it be the acquisition and maintenance of power. In that, his activity meets the first criterion.

    The American political scene has its distinctive characteristics, and they provide a flavour to Trump’s activity which, whilst distinctly nativist, echoes elements of the imagery, propaganda and stage management that was a feature of both the Mussolini and Hitler eras.

    Trump, of course, is bound by the limits of the US constitution, and is not as free as Mussolini and Hitler were to exploit the respective weaknesses of the Italian kingdom and Weimar republic at the time. Nor does he have the power to regiment all industry and commerce.

    There is a great deal of reference made in commentary to Trump’s “base”, the core of the slightly more than 25% of Americans who voted for him in 2016. It is obvious to anyone observing his rallies that a very strong personality cult exists within this minority, redolent of the almost hysterical responses that were a feature of rallies featuring Hitler on the one hand and Mussolini on the other in the thirties.

    What is especially ominous is the likelihood that Trump’s narcissism is fed by this reaction.

    The final, and most frightening criterion met by Trump’s activity is his demonising of sections of the population. He identifies immigrants and M uslims as his targets. The “build the wall” meme is the clearest expression of this characterisation of Mexicans, and his vilification of M uslims is also a prominent part of his activity.

    Whether Trump can be described as a fascist or not is largely irrelevant. What is critical is an examination of fascism in all its forms during the last century, an analysis of the current division evident in US politics, and an understanding of how that kind of division helped create the disaster that was World War Two.

    “Make America Great Again” has an uncanny similarity to “Ill Duce ha sempre ragione” and “Una, Grande y Libre”.

  113. rickw

    When I was in the SES, I was obliged to annually declare – in writing – any of my own and my immediate family’s financial and other interests that could cause a real or apparent conflict of interest with my employment.

    Standard practice for large corporations as well. Oz tends to cause a bit of consternation due to prevalence of family trusts.

  114. Top Ender

    Asteroid ended the dinosaurs
    LONDON
    NINA MASSEY

    Dinosaurs were wiped off the Earth by an asteroid, not volcanic activity as some theories suggest, according to new research.

    The asteroid, which struck off the coast of Mexico at the end of the Cretaceous era 66 million years ago, has long been believed to be the cause of the extinction of all dinosaur species except those that became birds.

    However, some researchers have suggested that tens of thousands of years of large volcanic eruptions may have been the actual cause of the extinction event.

    Researchers from Imperial College London, the University of Bristol and University College London have now shown that only the asteroid impact could have created conditions that made the planet uninhabitable for dinosaurs.

    They also suggest the massive volcanism could have helped life recover from the asteroid strike in the long term.

    Lead researcher Alessandro Chiarenza, who conducted the work at Imperial, said: “We show that the asteroid caused an impact winter for decades, and that these environmental effects decimated suitable environments for dinosaurs.

    “In contrast, the effects of the intense volcanic eruptions were not strong enough to substantially disrupt global ecosystems.

    “Our study confirms, for the first time quantitatively, that the only plausible explanation for the extinction is the impact winter that eradicated dinosaur habitats worldwide.”

    PA

    Except of course, for the Marxists amongst us

  115. Cassie of Sydney

    “Before turning a blind eye to the BLM germ festivals, “National Cabinet” members had negligently failed to rigorously screen travellers incoming from overseas, e.g. 2,500 Ruby Princess passengers, and numerous plane loads, thus introducing the virus to the community.”

    And here in NSW, has anyone, from that grotesque Health Hazzard down to the various heads of the NSW Dept of Health, lost their job for their gross incompetence in dealing with the Ruby Princess? Nyet, nope, no.

    Seriously….there’s one rule for us and no rules for them….there is zero accountability anymore.

  116. pete m

    Thanks dopey, posting from a phone is good for a laugh. I don’t usually go into correct mode but Tom made an effort to fix himself but missed it by that much!

    Any future typos pls self correct when reading.

  117. Frank

    An older female colleague made no secret of the fact that she was knitting through the presentation.

    A not quite under the breath “oh for fucks sake” when they unfurl the gif and sit there expecting praise generally conveys the fact quite succinctly. Even better if the audience starts to snicker. Open ridicule, it’s the only way.

  118. Diogenes blogs at Catallaxy during meetings.

    A better way to spend time.

  119. Makka

    numbers , the ter rorist supporter, is afwaid of Trump imposing Law and Order I see.

  120. egg_

    “I see Scott Marshmallow has announced a large defence increase.”

    For his @rse?

  121. P

    Did Mark McCloskey Donate to Democrats?
    After the couple pointed guns at protesters, rumors started to circulate about the McCloskeys’ political affiliations.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-mccloskey-donate-democrats/

  122. egg_

    Surely it is time for the government(s) to recognise, first, that they are not going to ‘stamp out’ coronavirus by imposing dictatorial and draconian restrictions on the population, and second, that increasingly, the population will not stand for them.

    Dan of the Dead’s war on the flu bug.
    Score?

    Dan’s Leaderboard
    Bug: 3 Dan: 0

    Is Dan appealing for diplomatic “immunity”, yet?

  123. egg_

    And here in NSW, has anyone, from that grotesque Health Hazzard down to the various heads of the NSW Dept of Health, lost their job for their gross incompetence in dealing with the Ruby Princess? Nyet, nope, no.

    Seriously….there’s one rule for us and no rules for them….there is zero accountability anymore.

    Is a bloated fvck like Hazzard a magnet for the beer bug?

  124. candy

    Whether Trump can be described as a fascist

    1735099
    I think a fascist government is a one-party country isn’t it? or any other party is totally supressed or crushed.

    I don’t think the Democrats are crushed or supressed, if you look at Twitter etc and indeed look to win the next election.

    So saying Trump/Republicans are fascists would be incorrect thinking.

  125. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nelson_Kidd-Players
    #3500528, posted on July 1, 2020 at 11:42 am
    Bears versus salmon. Now.

    A huge run yesterday NK-P but only a few gourmands in attendance. There were so many salmon in the shallows, one bear would eat half a salmon, then take a few steps and catch another. Rinse and repeat. A few daring to stand on the lip of the falls. And over in his office on the other side is old Otis (482) who simply stands there and selects one as it ventures too close.

  126. egg_

    The latest from our National Secret Cabinet Leader

  127. Roger

    Is Dan appealing for diplomatic “immunity”, yet?

    Several very angry punters in Brunswick featured on the mid-morning news at the doc’s today.

    I’d say Dan is about as popular as a brown snake at a back yard BBQ right now.

  128. Makka

    candy, it would be wise not to ascribe “thinking” to numbers. All he can manage are regurgitated communist/Marxist memes here daily. There’s nothing original or even thought provoking. It’s always just the same leftist clap trap in different format.

  129. Infidel Tiger King

    So how are they good people again?
    They looked ridiculous.
    Start shooting the fvckers, like the McMichaels, then I will call them good people.

    Okay.

    That seems a well reasoned argument.

  130. Infidel Tiger King

    IT – they may be all that but they also do civil rights pro bono work for black people, so that was hard for the outraged mob to digest.

    Unlike the liberals states, blacks and whites in the South actually mix and work together.

    And i have never seen a more iconic American image than a man sporting a pink polo, chinos and an AR-15 defending his French recreation manor house.

  131. mh

    Mark McCloskey, 63, who lives in the mansion with his wife, Patricia McCloskey, said they feared for their lives and that protesters damaged a wrought-iron gate at an entrance to the wealthy neighbourhood. Both are personal-injury lawyers.

    “This is all private property,” he said in an interview with KMOV4 local news. “There are no public sidewalks or public streets. I was terrified that we’d be murdered within seconds, our house would be burned down, our pets would be killed. We were all alone facing an angry mob.”

    They understand the Left.

  132. So saying Trump/Republicans are fascists would be incorrect thinking.

    First up, Trump and Republicans are not the same.
    I noted that whether Trump could be called a fascist or not is irrelevant.
    I did not say he was.
    I simply made some comparisons.
    You are free to draw your own conclusions.

  133. Bear Necessities

    I think Dan is preparing Victoriastan for power rationing in future years. Each day he will come out and declare what postcodes will be blacked out tonight. Parliament house and ALP HQ will always be off the list of course.

  134. numbers , the ter rorist supporter, is afwaid of Trump imposing Law and Order I see.

    Is he making the trains run on time?

  135. Mater

    They looked ridiculous.

    They looked ridiculous because they were wondering around in the open waving guns around.
    If you are genuinely concerned that you may have to use said guns on protesters (who were in all probability, also armed) you would issue warnings from a position that potentially offers some protection and cover.

    If they weren’t smart enough to understand that if they’d used their guns, a firefight was going to be the result, there is no helping them.

  136. Maj

    EU Bans U.S. Travellers, But May Allow Travel from Source of Coronavirus, China

    The European Union has excluded the United States from its list of “safe” countries as it reopens its borders to foreign travel following the coronavirus lockdown.

    On Tuesday, the Council of the European Union, comprised of ministers from the bloc’s 27 member-states, agreed to lift travel restrictions to third-countries for non-essential travel.

    As of Wednesday, the bloc will open its borders to nationals of Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, and Uruguay.

    Despite being the source of the outbreak, Brussels will also welcome visitors from China, “subject to confirmation of reciprocity” for EU travellers to the communist state. The list will be reviewed on a fortnightly basis.

    Notably absent from the list was the United States after reports had circulated last week that Americans would be banned from the bloc. The restrictions also apply to countries like Turkey, Russia, and Brazil.

  137. Boambee John

    calli
    #3500526, posted on July 1, 2020 at 11:40 am
    Just had my hair done so I’m feeling very feisty like the Noo Yok grannie on duty at the Museum of Natural History

    That reminds me, it is lucky that Robin Williams is dead, else he would have to be cancelled for playing Teddy R in the Night at the Museum series.

    Actually, shouldn’t those movies be cancelled?

  138. Bruce of Newcastle

    Asteroid ended the dinosaurs

    My thought is the asteroid and the volcanic eruptions are linked. The Deccan Traps are on the other side of the globe from the Chicxulub ground zero. And the Siberian Traps on the other side from the Permian impactor. I’m not totally certain of this because of continental drift, and it’s a while since I looked at the question, but it seems plausible that the shock from the asteroid spalled the crust on the other side thereby letting basaltic mantle up to the surface in flood-basalt eruptions.

  139. vr

    Unlike the liberals states, blacks and whites in the South actually mix and work together.

    This is true. Chicago is one of the most segregated cities.

  140. Boambee John

    Des Deskperson
    #3500527, posted on July 1, 2020 at 11:41 am
    ‘We have registers of pecuniary interests for politicians. Why do we not have similar registers for senior public servants ‘

    When I was in the SES, I was obliged to annually declare – in writing – any of my own and my immediate family’s financial and other interests that could cause a real or apparent conflict of interest with my employment.

    I believe that this requirement applies across the APS, including to agency heads .

    Thanks Des, where are these declarations publicly available?

  141. Makka

    Is he making the trains run on time?

    It’s the leftfilth with the shit hot record of totalitarianism, numpty.

  142. Natural Instinct

    I don’t really like Victorians but …
    Isn’t this taking things a bit too far – and highly illegal?
    .

    The Minister for Health and Medical Research, Brad Hazzard, has announced this morning that the NSW Government will ban people living in Melbourne’s coronavirus hotspots from entering the state.
    .
    Anyone from an affected Victorian postcode found in NSW could be jailed for six months or fined $11,000. The new rules will also apply to people in NSW who visit the affected Melbourne suburbs.
    .
    The Minister will sign a public health order implementing the changes later today

    How come ‘public health orders” overrule thousands of years of democratic struggle by the ruled against the rulers?

  143. Bruce of Newcastle

    First up, Trump and Republicans are not the same.

    Trump and Republican voters are the same, since the latter approve of the former at about 90-95%.
    Trump and the Republican Party elites are not the same.
    That’s true, just like the Photios Libs.

  144. Geriatric Mayfly

    A coincidence has crossed my mind. The Taliban and ISIS when attempting to assert their presence invariably attacked police stations and police recruitment centres, often with considerable loss of life. The aim being to prevent the establishment of a police authority in largely free-for-all outposts. Even worse, such units might be answerable to a central co-ordinating body. Law and order was a threat rather than a priority. As comparisons are odious, I shall go no further.

  145. Boambee John

    “Make America Great Again” has an uncanny similarity to “Ill Duce ha sempre ragione” and “Una, Grande y Libre”.

    Bin chicken needs to read more widely.

    FDR was a great admirer of Mussolini in the 1930s.

  146. Maj

    Just checked Jo Nova’s site. Yep, still Karening about the virus.

    Sad.

    And this:

    Republicans, with exception of Trump, now push mask-wearing

    In Republican circles — with the notable exception of the man who leads the party — the debate about masks is over: It’s time to put one on

    WASHINGTON (AP) — In Republican circles — with the notable exception of the man who leads the party — the debate about masks is over: It’s time to put one on.

    As a surge of infections hammers the South and West, GOP officials are pushing back against the notion that masks are about politics, as President Donald Trump suggests, and telling Americans they can help save lives.

    Sen. Lamar Alexander, a Tennessee Republican, on Tuesday bluntly called on Trump to start wearing a mask, at least some of the time, to set a good example.

    “Unfortunately, this simple, lifesaving practice has become part of a political debate that says: If you’re for Trump, you don’t wear a mask. If you’re against Trump, you do,” Alexander said.

    It’s a rare break for Republicans from Trump, who earlier this month told the Wall Street Journal that some people wear masks simply to show that they disapprove of him. And the Republican nudges for the public — and the president — to embrace mask-wearing are coming from all corners of Trump’s party and even from friendly conservative media.

    Both Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in recent days have urged Americans to wear one when they are unable to maintain social distance. Sen. Mitt Romney, a Utah Republican, told reporters it would be “very helpful” for Trump to encourage mask usage.

    “Put on a mask — it’s not complicated,” McConnell, R-Ky., urged Americans during his weekly news conference Tuesday.

    Last week, Republican Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming tweeted a photo of her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, wearing a disposable mask and a cowboy hat. She included the message: “Dick Cheney says WEAR A MASK #realmenwearmasks,” a hashtag that echoed words spoken earlier by the Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    Steve Doocy, co-host of a Trump friendly morning show “Fox & Friends,” said during an interview with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy that he doesn’t “see any downside in the president being seen more often wearing it.”

    McCarthy, R-Calif., responded that, for the upcoming holiday, “we could all show our patriotism with a red, white and blue mask.”

    Jacksonville, the Florida city where Trump is scheduled to accept his renomination as Republicans’ presidential candidate in August, announced a mask requirement for indoor public spaces this week. The president’s eldest son said the new requirements were no big deal.

    “You know, I don’t think that it’s too complicated to wear a mask or wash your hands and follow basic hygiene protocols,” Donald Trump Jr. told Fox Business on Tuesday.

    Trump aides have defended the president’s refusal to wear a mask by noting that he is regularly tested for the coronavirus, as are his aides. Those outside the administration — including White House visitors and members of the media who are in close proximity to him and Pence — are also tested.

    White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany didn’t directly address Republican calls for Trump to wear a mask in public more often, but noted that the president has said in the past he has no problem wearing one when necessary.

    But even with safeguards, the virus has found its way into the White House. A top aide to Pence, as well as a military valet to Trump, in May tested positive for the virus.

    Still, mask usage remains rare in the West Wing, said Rep. Brad Sherman, a California Democrat who attended an intelligence briefing at the White House on Tuesday with senior members of the president’s staff.

    At the briefing, which he said included about eight White House staffers, only national security adviser Robert O’Brien wore a mask, Sherman said. He added that no one in the secure briefing room was able to maintain 6 feet (1.8 meters) of social distancing, as recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    “I learned something major, and that is the White House is a mask-free zone,” Sherman told The Associated Press. “The president is consistent. He’s fine with people not wearing masks.”

    Polls show how the partisan divide on masks has seeped into public opinion.

    The vast majority of Democrats think people in their community should wear a mask when they are near other people in public places at least most of the time, including 63% who say they should always, according to a Pew Research Center poll published in early June. Among Republicans, 29% say masks should be worn always, and 23% say they should be worn most of the time. Another 23% say masks should rarely or never be worn.

    Trump has been caught on camera once wearing a mask. But Pence and members of the White House coronavirus task force frequently appear in public wearing masks.

    “If you want the return of college football this year, wear a face covering. If you want a chance at prom next spring, wear a face covering,” Surgeon General Jerome Adams urged Americans.

    Over the course of the crisis, the government has sent mixed messages on masks. As the first COVID-19 cases were identified on U.S. soil, top public health officials insisted masks should be reserved for front-line workers.

    In early April, the CDC issued a recommendation that people wear cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures were difficult to maintain.

    But Trump immediately undercut the CDC guidance by flatly stating that he wouldn’t be following it, suggesting it would be unseemly for the commander in chief to wear one as he meets with heads of states.

    Other world leaders, including Canada’s Justin Trudeau and France’s Emmanuel Macron, have worn masks in public and urged their citizens to do the same when they can’t maintain social distance

    Lawrence Gostin, a public health expert at Georgetown University, says he worries Republican calls for wearing masks “might be too late.”

    “The public has received such mixed messages from the administration,” Gostin said. “I fear we may be stuck with coronavirus until it burns through the American population and leaves hundreds of thousands dead.”

    How is President Trump supposed to get “cut through” with so many traitors undermining his message?

  147. Infidel Tiger King

    Trump missed a huge opportunity to sell MAGA masks.

    Just shows how sloppy and low energy his team has become.

    Bring back Bannon. Execute Javanka.

  148. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bears versus salmon. Now.

    Eagle cam, Catalina Island California. Kid seems happy!

    I was walking around the reserve near Cafe Bruce yesterday and wasn’t observant enough, so accidentally scared the sea eagle who was sunning himself in a tree in a warm corner 10 m ahead of where I was walking. He wasn’t happy, flew to another tree and stared at me accusingly.

  149. notafan

    Dr faustus that might explain the guard to guard transmission.

    Anyhow was the ABC hinting

  150. rickw

    Trump missed a huge opportunity to sell MAGA masks.

    Just shows how sloppy and low energy his team has become.

    Bring back Bannon. Execute Javanka.

    Agree.

  151. incoherent rambler

    Bears versus salmon.

    Do the Bears have certificates and the required approvals for sustainably harvesting fish stocks?
    Do the bears dispatch the salmon in a humane manner?

  152. Maj

    FWIW I reckon this image was photoshopped.

    The President has staked too much of his brand on not wearing a mask to just let the MSM photograph him wearing one.

  153. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bin chicken needs to read more widely.”

    Bin chicken needs help.

  154. Infidel Tiger King

    David Hookstead
    @dhookstead
    ·
    6h
    Tucker Carlson had the most successful quarter of viewership in the history of cable news, according to
    @Adweek
    .

    Those boycotts sure worked! It’s almost like the morons on Twitter don’t represent real America.

    Thankfully during the leadership vacuum, Americans have found a new voice.

  155. FDR was a great admirer of Mussolini in the 1930s.

    Hitler and Mussolini had lots of admirers in the USA during the late 1930s, including Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford.

  156. Maj

    Goldman Sachs: Mask mandate could save US economic recovery

    Fortunately Donald J. Trump is Main Street’s President; not Wall Street’s President.

  157. Arnost

    My thought is the asteroid and the volcanic eruptions are linked.

    I would suggest same.

    There is a substantial number of examples where antipodal volcanism appears to coincide with impacts. Both here on earth, moon and on the planets.

    https://www.newgeology.us/presentation35.html
    26d79fb0d692ca197e1e8b8cfc91c1d268c2.pdf

    As for the argument that the Deccan Traps were not at the exact antipode at the presumed time of the Chicxulub impact, the article below suggests that as a consequence of an oblique impact angle, the energy focus will be along a new antipodal axis closer to the impact site along its incoming direction (and hence the site of the Deccan Traps does not need to be “exactly” at the antipode for the theory to hold true).

  158. MemoryFault

    What humans can do

    Thanks for that, Woolfe.
    Once again Elon Musk shows the rest of the world how it’s done.
    If the world has a future, it lies with people like Musk, not politicians.

  159. Tel

    WASHINGTON (AP) — In Republican circles — with the notable exception of the man who leads the party — the debate about masks is over: It’s time to put one on.

    Typical double-bullshit news media. Trump was recommending mask wearing about a month ago, or even longer. His wife did a photo shoot wearing a mask.

    Also, Trump does not lead the Republican Party, he has always been an outsider who muscled in on the party, and they barely support him on a good day.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thought so.

    Susan Rice ‘humbled and honored’ by rumors Biden considering her for VP (30 Jun)

    Not only does the Obama team owe her for the Benghazi whitewash, but she’s plugged into the Jarrett machine – unlike Kamala or Lance Bottoms.

  161. Mater

    Bernard Shaw – Fabian Socialist and renowned ‘intellectual giant of the Left’ (according to New Statesman magazine in 2013)

    [Of Mussolini]: “Are you not delighted to find at last a Socialist who speaks and thinks as responsible rulers do and not as resentful slaves do?”

    – Bernard Shaw, October 1927

    “Some of the things Mussolini has done, and some of the things he is threatening to dogs further in the direction of Socialism than the English Labour Party could yet venture if they were in power…They will bring him presently into serious conflict with Capitalism; and it is certainly not my business or that of any Socialist to weaken him in view of such a conflict”

    – Bernard Shaw, A letter to a friend, 7 Feb 1927

    [Mussolini is] “farther to the Left in his political opinions than any of his socialist rivals.”

    – Bernard Shaw, The Manchester Guardian, 1927

  162. Infidel Tiger King

    Thought so.

    Susan Rice ‘humbled and honored’ by rumors Biden considering her for VP (30 Jun)

    Not only does the Obama team owe her for the Benghazi whitewash, but she’s plugged into the Jarrett machine – unlike Kamala or Lance Bottoms.

    Hahaha!

    Kamala has already been appointed.

  163. 132andBush

    First up, Trump and Republicans are not the same.
    I noted that whether Trump could be called a fascist or not is irrelevant.
    I did not say he was.
    I simply made some comparisons.
    You are free to draw your own conclusions.

    What bullshit is this?!!!

    What you described was a socialists wet dream.

    Fucking communist.

  164. Arnost

    Trump missed a huge opportunity to sell MAGA masks.

    I’m sure it was considered. But Trump is very much against them and so too much of a “hypocritical” move.

  165. Infidel Tiger King

    Trump has now blown out to $2.75.

    He was $1.55 4 months ago.

    Low energy and no plan. Get rid of Javanka you stupid old fool.

  166. Infidel Tiger King

    Hitler and Mussolini had lots of admirers in the USA during the late 1930s, including Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford.

    Not to mention the Australian left and union movement.

  167. 132andBush

    Actually, they’re not your own words are they Bob?

    Very reminiscent of some bilge that was foisted on me by a family member about two months ago.
    Origin of said bilge was a friend of the family in England. A retired teacher as it happens.

  168. Arnost

    Kamala has already been appointed.

    I’d say so… She was cruising to the nomination until Tulsi smacked her around on stage. And hence plan B:
    Resurrect Joe Biden and have him run unopposed, [note that once Kamala dropped out, everyone soon (surprisingly and prob unnecessarily) followed];
    Get Kamala to be his running mate at conference; and
    have Biden drop out [probably before the election for health reasons] and have a dream team with someone like Mayor Pete as the VP face Trump in Nov.

    That is unless Big Mike want’s a shot…

  169. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hahaha!
    Kamala has already been appointed.

    Miranda thinks so, but can’t see anything to confirm it. She’s on Jill’s short list.

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    From Liability Bob’s unreferenced and more than likely, given past form plagiarised piece:

    ‘An examination of Spanish fascism under Franco, Italian fascism under Mussolini and German fascism under Hitler reinforces that notion. All three regimes were aggressively power based, ruthlessly suppressed criticism, and emphasized nationalism.’

    Hmm. Almost. Here we go:

    ‘An examination of environmental socialism in the EU under Merkel, US environmental socialism under Obama and Canadian environmental socialism under Trudeau reinforces that notion. All three regimes were and are aggressively power based, ruthlessly suppressed criticism, and emphasized globalism.’

    Much better, and much more accurate.

  171. Tim Neilson

    The rape in 2017 of a Tennant Creek toddler triggered a swift response from Northern Territory Chief Minister Michael Gunner and then prime minister Malcolm Turnbull.

    Their two governments signed the Barkly Regional Deal intended to address many of Tennant Creek’s social problems. Sceptics say little has changed in practice.

    It’s a template for modern Australian politics.

  172. Arnost

    Get rid of Javanka you stupid old fool.

    I’m guessing that DJT wants Ivanka to be the next president. I know it’s nepotistic to the extreme – but thinking back on Tucker’s point from this am – it’s the only way that he can be sure that the deep state cleansing will continue, and how he stays out of Gitmo! [Let’s face it, once Dems get control again the purge will make Stalin’s look like kindergarten bickering.]

  173. Struth

    Great video Cassie.
    Great young girl, that Sydney.

  174. zyconoclast

    Get Kamala to be his running mate at conference; and
    have Biden drop out [probably before the election for health reasons] and have a dream team with someone like Mayor Pete as the VP face Trump in Nov.

    That is high risk.
    Safer for them to get Biden elected then drop out for health reasons soon after.
    Manchurian Candidate style

  175. Bernard Shaw – Fabian Socialist and renowned ‘intellectual giant of the Left’ (according to New Statesman magazine in 2013)

    Mussolini was expelled from the Italian Socialist Party in 1914.
    They were probably in a better position than GB Shaw to determine his bona fides.
    He was as much a socialist as Trump is a Republican.
    Labels mean SFA when the pursuit of totalitarian power is the end game.
    That’s as true for Trump (who has a very low opinion of the Republican party) as it was for Mussolini.
    It didn’t end well for Il Duce.

  176. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Actually, they’re not your own words are they Bob?’

    Beat me to it, Mr Bush.

  177. Infidel Tiger King

    Kamala doesn’t become POTUS until after Biden wins.

    She’s not electable, but he certainly is.

    She will then carry out Obama’s third term.

  178. ‘Actually, they’re not your own words are they Bob?’

    Beat me to it, Mr Bush.

    I’ll play your silly game.
    Whose words are they?

  179. Boambee John

    132andBush
    #3500625, posted on July 1, 2020 at 1:15 pm
    Actually, they’re not your own words are they Bob?

    Very reminiscent of some bilge that was foisted on me by a family member about two months ago.
    Origin of said bilge was a friend of the family in England. A retired teacher as it happens.

    Plagiarism? Surely not! I wonder if the Piled Higher and Deeper supervisor reads the Cat?

  180. Infidel Tiger King

    Gov. Mike Huckabee
    @GovMikeHuckabee
    ·
    33m
    As Gov of AR for almost 11 yrs, I defended
    @Walmart
    against unfair attacks. I don’t even recognize who they are now. They won’t sell DVD by
    @DennisPrager
    &
    @adamcarolla
    but do sell BLM; but not “blue lives matter.” They should change name to “Wokemart.”

    Corporatism. Not even once,

    Every large company needs to be broken up or liquidated.

  181. Infidel Tiger King

    Daily Caller
    @DailyCaller
    CUOMO: Trump retweeted the video of Mark McCloskey because “he liked the image of white resistance to this [black lives matter] movement.”

    MCCLOSKEY: “I’m glad you’re a mind reader because no one else thinks you are.”

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1278148495908757504

    McCloskey goes to town on Cuomo.

  182. Arnost

    She’s not electable, but he certainly is.

    That is high risk.
    Safer for them to get Biden elected then drop out for health reasons soon after.

    Disagree. Running an inarticulate, geriatric, demented, corrupted, hair sniffing peedorapetor against a younger incumbent with proven economic and law and order credentials has ZERO chance of success [massive election fraud aside!].

    To combat that at election time – you need someone younger, more articulate and strong on law and order. And Kamala fits that bill (with colour!).

  183. Infidel Tiger King

    Disagree. Running an inarticulate, geriatric, demented, corrupted, hair sniffing peedorapetor against a younger incumbent with proven economic and law and order credentials has ZERO chance of success [massive election fraud aside!].

    Unfortunately Biden is seen as a loveable uncle and a safe pair of hands.

    Trump’s record is the highest unemployment since the depression, the largest debt in human history and riots, chaos and lawlessness.

    Vote for stability or vote for the chaos guy?

    Politrics isn’t fair, but that’s how it’s being framed and it’s a pretty easy choice for most.

  184. zyconoclast

    Woman, 22, who had ‘sexual contact’ three times with a boy, 14, who she met on the internet avoids jail after judge says ‘there was genuine affection’ between the pair

    The court heard Johnson, 22, who is immature for her age, began communicating with the boy online and they swapped messages before meeting.

    Mr Doig said there appears to have been ‘genuine affection’ between them and the sexual activity only happened over a short period of time.

    Johnson, of Elswick, Newcastle, who has no previous convictions, pleaded guilty to five counts of sexual activity with a child and was sentenced to a three year community order and must sign the sex offenders register for five years.

    ‘I hope there will be no long term harmful effects on the boy.’

    ‘There was mutual genuine affection and there was no grooming or anything of that sort.

  185. Dr Faustus

    Get Kamala to be his running mate at conference; and
    have Biden drop out [probably before the election for health reasons] and have a dream team with someone like Mayor Pete as the VP face Trump in Nov.

    Not impossible.

    Rule 1: Always have a VP candidate that looks like an inoffensive backup and doesn’t distract from the Potential POTUS.

    You would have to think the DNC would be passing bricks at the prospect of running Biden with either Harris or Rice.

    Being black ladies, hand-picked for being black ladies, they have to have a big, front and centre role in the BLM election. Either would painfully emphasise Is-It-Teatime-Yet-Nurse? Joe’s unfitness for the big job.

  186. Infidel Tiger King

    and have a dream team with someone like Mayor Pete as the VP face Trump in Nov.

    Black people hate fags more than anything.

    Buttiegeg is completely unelectable.

  187. Arnost

    Unfortunately Biden is seen as a loveable uncle and a safe pair of hands.

    Now …. Wait 5 minutes into the election campaign.

    Trump’s record is the highest unemployment since the depression, the largest debt in human history and riots, chaos and lawlessness.

    Aside from the debt [which was forced down his throat by Never Trump RINOs in Congress,] he can argue that:
    it is because of him that the COVID numbers were so low. Remember “scientists said” something like 100 million+ would get infected and zillions die.
    He still has time to turn the employment around … or have a plan [lean on Apple and other globalists to bring jobs back to America].
    And most people know that the riots are instigated by Democritters (and the riots are in urban areas that typically vote 100% Democrit …. so what! He can’t lose any votes there]

  188. zyconoclast

    Vote for stability or vote for the chaos guy?

    More than that, Trump has done everything to alienate the people who voted for him in 2016.
    They will be stay home.
    This alone will swing it to Creepy Joe.

  189. pete m

    This is frigging hilarious.

    Joe’s sign language lady

    prayers requested.

  190. zyconoclast

    They will stay home.

  191. itk:

    And i have never seen a more iconic American image than a man sporting a pink polo, chinos and an AR-15 defending his French recreation manor house.

    Perfection would have seen him in a pair of dinosaur feet slippers.

  192. Infidel Tiger King

    Also Trump will wear the blame for COVID-19, so that excuse is off the table.

  193. Arnost

    Buttiegeg is completely unelectable.

    Yeah … maybe from a blacks perspective.

    But the blacks will vote for Kamala in droves. [The black mamas have had enough of this rioting shit and Kamala has a very strong record of cleaning up black unrest – watch this space … that will be her main platform that she has both the carrot and stick to fix the race hate riots]. And the Dems won’t need the black vote in 8 years time. The currently conservative white women (just like they did with Obama) will be swayed and vote in droves to give the woman now, and the rainbow candidate in 8 years a go (to be fair and prove they are not sexist and anti-gay).

  194. rickw

    Perfection would have seen him in a pair of dinosaur feet slippers.

    Didn’t you see him kick them off and change to his shoes at the back door?!

  195. Mater

    Mussolini was expelled from the Italian Socialist Party in 1914.
    They were probably in a better position than GB Shaw to determine his bona fides.

    Let’s put aside the fact that he was expelled for his eventual stance on Italy’s involvement in the war (which was similar to a lot of other socialists of the day), not necessarily his politics.

    The above statement is like saying a suicide bomber is not an [email protected] terrorist UNLESS he is a card carrying member of ISIS.

  196. rickw

    The above statement is like saying a suicide bomber is not an [email protected] terrorist UNLESS he is a card carrying member of ISIS.

    This is an argument that numbers had ran with a couple of times!

  197. Struth

    Fascism as a political movement exhibits four basic criteria.

    First, fascism it is not an ideology, but an activity.

    Like violent street demonstrations against democracy and the rule of law.

    Secondly, it has its own national characteristics.

    Thirdly, it promotes its leadership to personality cult status in a very easily recognisable and consistent manner.

    Obama, Julia Gillard, …….never a hard question asked, nor a thing they could do wrong.
    Too many left wing leaders treated as gods to mention.
    Adern, etc.

    And finally, it identifies a group or race which is isolated and vilified as a threat to national security and progress.

    White men join jooos this time around as the terrible repressors of progress.

    Fascism is clearly not an ideology because there is no universal and thoughtfully developed set of principles embedded in its structure. In this, it differs strongly from contemporary political ideologies such as capitalism and socialism. One notable feature of fascism is its capacity to absorb elements of these ideologies into its practice, embracing them when it is convenient, and rejecting them when its power is compromised.

    Controlling not owning the means of production is still socialism.
    It is not competitive capitalism, and no fascist allows non government control.
    They are socialists.

    One definition is worth consideration –

    “a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry and commerce, and emphasising an aggressive nationalism and racism”..

    Here we have a description of the socialist , Hitler and many other socialist leaders.
    It certainly isn’t the description of right wing Margaret Thatcher or Ronald Reagan.

    This definition is comprehensive enough to be useful and emphasises the fact that its practice is all about power.

    Certainly is.

    An examination of Spanish fascism under Franco, Italian fascism under Mussolini and German fascism under Hitler reinforces that notion. All three regimes were aggressively power based, ruthlessly suppressed criticism, and emphasized nationalism.

    They emphasised socialist nationalism.
    The nationalism cannot be the problem with these Mussolini and Hitler, because they were at war with nationalists, and defeated by nationalists in national uniforms.
    Hitler in wanting Living room as an excuse to take over ze vorld was less a nationalist than just your typical power starved socialist meglomaniac.

    The third characteristic of adulation of leadership is easily recognised in the history of the three examples listed above. This adulation is associated with slogans, images and mass gatherings. There is always a unifying concept, usually expressed as a slogan, or a simple idea. Hitler had his Third Reich, Mussolini had “Ill Duce ha sempre ragione” and Franco used “Una, Grande y Libre”.

    Socialists ……no Reaganites here either.
    Fucking strange that.

    The groups identified as threats in Hitler’s Germany, were the J ews and the Communists. In Franco’s Spain and Mussolini’s Italy, they were intellectuals, separatists, communists and socialists.

    Socialism doesn’t play well with other socialists.
    The great lie is the bullshit line the left use in stating Hitler fought commos so he wasn’t one.
    It’s like saying Sunnis and Shi-ites can’t be both Moooossies.
    Complete bullshit.
    Tyrants don’t tolerate other tyrants, ’tis all.

    Applying these four tests to the current American political situation is useful.

    Donald Trump has no coherent ideology, unless it be the acquisition and maintenance of power. In that, his activity meets the first criterion.

    MAGA is a political ideology.
    It is a manifesto.
    To further extrapolate from above, he should not be in the office because of ideology, but for a political platform or ideology.
    That this writer, who obviously isn’t numbers, to bemoan such a fact proves that the left are the ones who actually desire a god like leader they can follow, as described above.
    It’s not a fault he has no ideology except for the economic success and security of his nation, it is a benefit.

    The American political scene has its distinctive characteristics, and they provide a flavour to Trump’s activity which, whilst distinctly nativist, echoes elements of the imagery, propaganda and stage management that was a feature of both the Mussolini and Hitler eras.

    Yep, he has an American flag on the stage with him, strikingly similar to the night marches of Hitler and the Nuremberg parades.
    What a fuckwit.

    Trump, of course, is bound by the limits of the US constitution, and is not as free as Mussolini and Hitler were to exploit the respective weaknesses of the Italian kingdom and Weimar republic at the time. Nor does he have the power to regiment all industry and commerce.

    And as a rule of law man, has not flouted them, unlike the democratic governors who have done so with brazen criminality.

    There is a great deal of reference made in commentary to Trump’s “base”, the core of the slightly more than 25% of Americans who voted for him in 2016. It is obvious to anyone observing his rallies that a very strong personality cult exists within this minority, redolent of the almost hysterical responses that were a feature of rallies featuring Hitler on the one hand and Mussolini on the other in the thirties.

    No, the attendance is voluntary, and the fact that stadiums are full is causing this writer to bitch and tear up in jealous fantasy writing.

    What is especially ominous is the likelihood that Trump’s narcissism is fed by this reaction.

    To hear the loony Black lives matter left speak of narcissism is just gobsmacking, however if interpreted correctly it would read, …………he still keeps on dishing it back to us and we’ve never had that before, so we’re having a dummy spit, ….a fucking big one.

    The final, and most frightening criterion met by Trump’s activity is his demonising of sections of the population. He identifies immigrants and M uslims as his targets. The “build the wall” meme is the clearest expression of this characterisation of Mexicans, and his vilification of M uslims is also a prominent part of his activity.

    The first thing Chaz did was build a wall.

    Too stupid for comment and the left are civilisation destroying, bitter, ignorant, entitled, hateful demons.
    To describe demonising demons as terrible is to not be concerned about demons in society.

    Putting up a wall to stop illegal invasion of a country is vital.
    Look how quick the left distinguished between this and closing down borders due to corona virus.
    You can’t close down whatcha can’t close.
    You people are knee jerk insane.

    Whether Trump can be described as a fascist or not is largely irrelevant. What is critical is an examination of fascism in all its forms during the last century, an analysis of the current division evident in US politics, and an understanding of how that kind of division helped create the disaster that was World War Two.

    Socialists are up to their old racist tricks yet again.

    Mate, we learn from history.
    You’re as transparent as glass.

    “Make America Great Again” has an uncanny similarity to “Ill Duce ha sempre ragione” and “Una, Grande y Libre”.

    Fine sentiments all.
    How you get there is a totally different scenario under Trump.
    God you fuckers are basic.

    rickw

  198. Top Ender

    And if it had been the other way:

    Man, 22, who had ‘sexual contact’ three times with a girl, 14, who he met on the internet avoids jail after judge says ‘there was genuine affection’ between the pair

    – he’d be in jail….

  199. Bruce of Newcastle:

    My thought is the asteroid and the volcanic eruptions are linked. The Deccan Traps are on the other side of the globe from the Chicxulub ground zero. And the Siberian Traps on the other side from the Permian impactor.

    I understood the Deccan Traps had been playing up for a million years or so and the Chickiebub rock was enough to tip a stressed system over the edge.
    But I could be wrong…

  200. areff

    they have to have a big, front and centre role

    Big bottoms too

  201. cohenite

    chaamjamal
    #3500463, posted on July 1, 2020 at 10:33 am
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Volvo automobile factory at Chengdu, China is running on 100% renewable energy. Clearly, Volvo is doing its part to fight climate change and thereby to save the planet. My next car will be a Volvo. Just doing my part to save the planet.
    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/06/30/climate-change-is-a-marketing-tool/

    You needed to add a sarc notation.

  202. Arnost

    They will stay home.

    We now have AG Barr being impeached. The Repub voters realise that the corruption stink is so high that only a total clean out is necessary.

    The way I see it, the conservative voters cannot vote for another party (Democrits can with relative safety vote Repub to send a message). The only way Rebubs can “send the message” is through polls, and non-meaningful races. Trump had solid support before the riots. The message to him is “you better fix this shit” … and that is the polls message. And he’s stuck here for the moment as he can’t actually send the army in to fix the democrat cities and stop them from burning [we had the conversation below – constitutionally he can’t unless the Governor invites him to do so].

    He needs to get the Democits to own this. Because even if this fades, guaranteed there will be round two of rioting when the cops go to trial and they get found not guilty of the [BLM demanded] murder charges and essentially let off with a comparative slap on the hand [which is where the law/justice should go].

    And as Tucker points out – Law, order and security are the most important wants for most people. And that is why he has been tweeting this every couple of hours. If he is the law and order candidate – people will come out in droves for him!

  203. Dr Faustus

    they have to have a big, front and centre role
    Big bottoms too

    Bum tush.

  204. thefrollickingmole

    egg_

    Our old mine manager had the “hour of power” every morning.. Things which could have been sorted with individuals and 2 emails were instead brought out and forensically examined.
    The man had no bladder.

  205. They emphasised socialist nationalism.
    The nationalism cannot be the problem with these Mussolini and Hitler, because they were at war with nationalists, and defeated by nationalists in national uniforms.
    Hitler in wanting Living room as an excuse to take over ze vorld was less a nationalist than just your typical power starved socialist meglomaniac.

    This makes more sense if it’s read backwards.

  206. Natural Instinct:

    How come ‘public health orders” overrule thousands of years of democratic struggle by the ruled against the rulers?

    They’re pushing hard to see what we will tolerate.
    When this is over, the powers – that – be will wind back the restrictions. But not all of them, and there will be exceptions.
    It’s called the Oppression Ratchet. Two laws forward, one law back.

  207. Philby

    The funniest thing I listened to today was Setka from CFMEU fame on 3aw accusing developers where his union people were assaulted of being very bad people. What a laugh coming from a union who had bikie enforcers on a building site in country Victoria. The mind boggles when you think who it would be to have the balls to belt a union official in the head with a lump of 4×2. Perhaps we are back into the war of the crims. Bring it on.

  208. Delta A

    Joe’s sign language lady

    That is so funny, pete m.

    Imagine all the signers cowering in fear when they know there’s a Joe gig coming up.

  209. cohenite

    This makes more sense if it’s read backwards.

    FOAD troll.

  210. stackja

    cohenite – Hollywood to stop pretending? I am shocked!
    And “Clark Butler” don’t give a damn.

  211. cohenite

    More than that, Trump has done everything to alienate the people who voted for him in 2016.
    They will be stay home.
    This alone will swing it to Creepy Joe.

    FFS stalker, give yourself an uppercut. This thread is stuffed: no Tom’s toons, the troll vomiting and stalker as depressing as a wet weekend with no grog and a broken tv.

  212. Arnost

    I understood the Deccan Traps had been playing up for a million years or so and the Chickiebub rock was enough to tip a stressed system over the edge.
    But I could be wrong…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/science/dinosaurs-extinction-meteorite-volcano.html
    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-02/aaft-tse021919.php

    Here we have three recent studies: One suggesting a couple of hundred thousand years before, one suggesting a bit before but within margin of tens of thousands years and one a couple of hundred thousand years after.

    Pick a study to suit an argument …. and who knows for sure!

  213. Mitch M.

    Winston Smith
    #3500665, posted on July 1, 2020 at 2:16 pm
    Bruce of Newcastle:

    My thought is the asteroid and the volcanic eruptions are linked. The Deccan Traps are on the other side of the globe from the Chicxulub ground zero. And the Siberian Traps on the other side from the Permian impactor.

    I understood the Deccan Traps had been playing up for a million years or so and the Chickiebub rock was enough to tip a stressed system over the edge.
    But I could be wrong…

    That is the current interpretation because species decline was happening before the big rock. It might be a moot point because the rock was so devastating it would have done the job alone.

  214. Infidel Tiger King

    FFS stalker, give yourself an uppercut. This thread is stuffed: no Tom’s toons, the troll vomiting and stalker as depressing as a wet weekend with no grog and a broken tv.

    I didn’t write that, old man.

    Are you going Biden on us?

  215. FFS stalker, give yourself an uppercut. This thread is stuffed: no Tom’s toons, the troll vomiting and stalker as depressing as a wet weekend with no grog and a broken tv.

    If Trump supporters can’t see their freedom flashing before their eyes, they’re probably fake Republicans.

    It’s just gaslighting. Stupid Dumbocrats think they can get Trump voters to stay home if they say he has no hope.

    Except it didn’t work last time

  216. stackja

    Biden would be as useful as Buchanan in 1859.

  217. MemoryFault

    Hello Struth, old comrade in arms.

    Struth, you’ve got to get above blaming all this on “commies” and “socialists”. What is happening now cannot be defined or described with what are old, outdated terms and definitions. Even “Left” and “Right” are now largely meaningless. Australia, together with the other four UKUSA Pact countries, are in the middle of an attempted takeover by an utterly ruthless, authoritarian regime. An entirely new type of regime.

    Think of it as a new form of Fascism with an ideology, and the ideology itself is the cultish personality that leads, not any one person or group. Trump has woken up to this, which is why he is now playing his hand very close to his chest.

  218. Top Ender

    THE NT Police officer charged over the alleged murder of Aboriginal teenager Kumanjayi Walker has fronted court again today, with his lawyer successfully applying for a variation of bail and a suppression order.

    Judge John Birch told the Alice Springs Local Court that the application to vary the bail of Constable Zachary Rolfe was to reflect a change of address.

    “I note that the defendant is not moving out of the Australian Capital Territory and I also note that the prosecution consent to the variation of bail and the application is granted,” he said.

    “And I note the matters contained in the affidavit in support of the application and the conduct that is alleged to have taken place towards the defendant, as well as his family.”

    Defence lawyer David Edwardson also made an application to suppress the contents of an affidavit and his client’s change of address.

    Prosecutor Collette Dixon said the Crown consented to the bail variation.

    Judge Birch said he was satisfied the suppression order was in the best interests of justice.

    “And I am satisfied that it is in the interests of justice that I make an order today prohibiting the publication of the defendant’s residential address or any matter which may directly or indirectly identify that address,” he said.

    Constable Rolfe was charged with murder over the alleged shooting death of Kumanjayi Walker in Yuendumu in November last year.

    Rolfe, who appeared by video link, will face court again for a preliminary examination mention in August.

    NT News

  219. Arnost:

    Disagree. Running an inarticulate, geriatric, demented, corrupted, hair sniffing peedorapetor against a younger incumbent with proven economic and law and order credentials has ZERO chance of success [massive election fraud aside!].

    The fraud is the big issue. It will be the defining moment for the US. If the Democrats pull off a fraudulent win, they will deny any fraud at all. If the President is re elected, they will scream “fraud!”
    No matter who wins, the Democrats are going to get violent.
    I don’t know the mechanics of how he will do it, but President Trump needs to bring in Voter ID. I hope he has a plan to flood the polling booths with police and National Guard to stop the voter intimidation that seems to happen.

  220. And as Tucker points out – Law, order and security are the most important wants for most people. And that is why he has been tweeting this every couple of hours. If he is the law and order candidate – people will come out in droves for him!

    Tucker’s an idiot.

    It’s a trap, and a very big one. If Trumps plays military strongman against citizens, he loses. Wotcha gunna do? Vote for the party that will enslave you??

    If Repubs vote Democrat, they lose everything. If they stay home, they lose everything. If Democrats win in November, they’ll take the gloves off and destroy democracy with the stroke of a pen. The rule of law will be replaced with total lawfare, and goons will kill the outspoken as a lesson to others. And the radicals will cast aside the existing leaders and go full fucktard.

  221. Infidel Tiger King

    Tucker’s an idiot.

    It’s a trap, and a very big one. If Trumps plays military strongman against citizens, he loses. Wotcha gunna do? Vote for the party that will enslave you??

    This is the most unsound analysis i have heard.

    Are you a libertarian?

  222. MemoryFault

    Are you a libertarian?

    FFS ITK.
    Go crawl under a rock and don’t come out until you’ve grown at least half a brain.

  223. Johno

    Well, I voted. 14 candidates from various mobs. Most of them would just be there to harvest preferences. I looked up one mob called The Science party they want a carbon tax and 800% renewables. I don’t know how you would do that but I do know where their preferences would go.
    Libs, Labor,Greens assorted faux independents, shooters etc. OK Ricardo you will have at least 1 vote.

    Bloody depressing.

  224. Infidel Tiger King

    FFS ITK.
    Go crawl under a rock and don’t come out until you’ve grown at least half a brain.

    I said Libertarian, not grifter.

    I’ll call you when your speciality subject comes up.

  225. Struth

    Hello Struth, old comrade in arms.

    Struth, you’ve got to get above blaming all this on “commies” and “socialists”. What is happening now cannot be defined or described with what are old, outdated terms and definitions. Even “Left” and “Right” are now largely meaningless. Australia, together with the other four UKUSA Pact countries, are in the middle of an attempted takeover by an utterly ruthless, authoritarian regime. An entirely new type of regime.

    Think of it as a new form of Fascism with an ideology, and the ideology itself is the cultish personality that leads, not any one person or group. Trump has woken up to this, which is why he is now playing his hand very close to his chest.

    I disagree.
    If it quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck, and tastes like a duck, it’s a duck.

    They call themselves socialists and Marxists, from the head of the UN to the BLM leaders.

    You must admit, their enemy is the same one.
    The capitalists and the capitalist west.
    Their theories are the same and the names they call themselves are the same.
    The are not new in my opinion.
    The only thing new about them is the individuals who have been brainwashed by the same old bullshit.
    The next generation…Hitler youth, less disciplined……….

    Commos, Socialists and fascists, to separate them is a hard job, they are almost identical.
    So I call these bitter regressivists what they are.
    There is nothing new that I can see about them.

    What can you see that’s new?

    Insofar as they are not external forces but internal and international is as old as the Frankfurt school.
    I simplify because it is simple.
    Communist Russia called itself the United Soviet SOCIALIST Republic.
    A Marxist country, as is the BLM leaders so too marxist.
    Hitler called himself a National SOCIALIST workers party leader.
    Like all the socialist alliance marching in the streets of Australia for the BLM rallies.
    Black lives……my arse.
    Just the same tired old socialist bullshit.

  226. Des Deskperson

    ‘Thanks Des, where are these declarations publicly available?’

    I am not aware if the declarations are openly available. However, I believe that disclosure of the information to interested third parties would be quite consistent with the Privacy Act, so I can see no reason, prima facie, why they shouldn’t be.

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