Wednesday Forum: July 1, 2020

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  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    Haha, Seven News just had a breathless report of the arrest of a certain Mz Maxwell, associate of a guy called Epstein. Despite talking about Mr Epstein’s “associates” the only associate mentioned was somebody called Andrew. No mention of an even closer associate called Bill.

    Any wonder why we hate the MSM worse than bat crud?

  2. All this chatter about Noddy Newman reminds me of 31st January 2015, and our kitchen to-do list.
    How sweet it was…

  3. Mater

    That’s blasphemy.
    (But you forgot to mention the trouble he got into when he did go bush, and his dodgy BIL).

    In his demeaning of a former serviceman, using rumours and innuendo, we now have confirmation of the true motivation behind his constant protestations about people demeaning “the service of Vietnam veterans in particular, and returned servicemen in general”.

    Just a selfish and hypocritical attempt to re-instigate the supposed sanctity of his personal service, which he then uses as both a sword and shield on this site.

    Message received, Bob. Out to you.

  4. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Don Harwin’s court case brought forward four months by ODPP
    Former NSW Arts minister Don Harwin has sensationally dodged a $1000 fine for allegedly breaching COVID-19 travel restrictions after the public prosecutor dropped the matter today.
    Nick Hansen, The Daily Telegraph
    Subscriber only
    |July 3, 2020 10:57am

    Any word on the court hearing date of the 20,000 who breached COVID-19 restrictions by marching in the street?

    Gladyshocklian, GFYS.

  5. Farmer Gez

    Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos is welcoming the judicial inquiry. She mentions the Ruby Princess as the possible source of the ongoing infections in Victoria.

    Now we know for sure the fix is in.

  6. woolfe

    Struth,
    Come to WA, none of that bullshit here. Pubs open, restaurants open, sit where you want.

  7. cohenite

    Most people, even those who post here, are not as gullible as Cohenite.

    Hey, look at that you slackers, the troll said I was gullible. I bet none of you other layabouts have copped that. I’m doing something right.

    Anyway FOAD troll; that’s my gullibility, thinking a bastard like you will get some justice.

  8. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos is welcoming the judicial inquiry

    So the stupid incompetent cow hasn’t resigned or been sacked yet. Gee, what a surprise.

  9. In his demeaning of a former serviceman, using rumours and innuendo, we now have confirmation of the true motivation behind his constant protestations about people demeaning “the service of Vietnam veterans in particular, and returned servicemen in general”.

    Except that Noddy Newman is not a “returned serviceman”, unless you count Duntroon as operational service. Maybe for some of the female cadets at the time it resembled a war zone.
    He’s simply a washed up polly.
    They don’t grant campaign medals for that.

  10. egg_

    I went out for after work drinkies last Friday and it was quite the most abnormal and uncomfortable evening, from signing in with ID to seat allocation to being chastised for being too close or going to another table for a chat.

    Nurse Ratched is running Hospitalities – what could possibly go wrong?

  11. Struth

    Struth,
    Come to WA, none of that bullshit here. Pubs open, restaurants open, sit where you want.

    The border is closed is it not?

  12. Dr Faustus

    rickw, can you recommend a mini lathe and mill?

    Whatever you end up buying:

    Make sure it has
    – metal gears throughout;
    – a cast iron bed;

    Be prepared to have to fiddle around setting it up.

  13. mh

    I got 11 minutes into this and couldn’t watch any more.

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3502424, posted on July 3, 2020 at 11:48 am”

    Thanks Mater…the pervert is showing his true cowardly ways.

  15. Having gone through the system with some of the higher ranking females in our system, I can safely say that the heaviest thing they’ve ever carried, is the rack of medals which now adorn them.

    A particular highlight of my ANZAC Day is to watch them prancing around like preened peacocks, on the various telecasts, and reminiscing about lugging all their shit around the bush on exercise.

    Absolutely, although based on what I’ve observed at various ANZAC Day parades, locally and in Sydney and Brisbane, that behaviour is not confined to “higher ranking females”.

    It’s not gender specific…

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    Except that Noddy Newman is not a “returned serviceman”, unless you count Duntroon as operational service.

    Attending Duntroon is more glorious than peeling potatoes.

  17. egg_

    we are analysing that data to see exactly why people are refusing, but it is concerning that some people believe that coronavirus is a conspiracy or that it won’t impact on them,

    Lebs giving Big Brother the finger?
    Quelle surprise!
    Swarthy fella privilege rulz!

  18. Mater

    He did 13 years service, Bob.
    So we now have confirm that peacetime service doesn’t count?
    Should we ban them from the RSL? Constantly tell them they they never saw ‘a real war’?

    Sound familiar?

  19. Natural Instinct

    Whilst our “leaders” compete for the Health Jackboot prize – Check out the numbers
    .
    Number of persons under 69 who have died across the whole of Australia:
    = 7 men
    = 5 women
    .
    And who is paying for 45,000 tests per day?

  20. woolfe

    Yea 14 days isolation (unless you hitch a ride in Kerry Stokes jet) but then freedom.

  21. I am no fan of Campbell Newman, but there is no need to denigrate his service because we did not go to war during his service.

    *You coward! The government did not declare war whilst you were in the forces!*

    What a stupid and desperate cry for attention from Spuds McBob.

  22. egg_

    Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos is welcoming the judicial inquiry. She mentions the Ruby Princess as the possible source of the ongoing infections in Victoria.

    Vic Elf passing the buck to NSW Elf?
    What’s the common denominator?

  23. 132andBush

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3502344, posted on July 3, 2020 at 10:08 am
    The RuddReins have bought a $17m beach shack.

    Not really the sort of people I imagine at the beach unless Greenpeace is there.

    And/or the Oregon Dept of Transport (explosives division).

  24. Cassie of Sydney

    A few people here the other day scolded some of us for challenging the serial pervert/liar and racist from Toowoomba…..various people asked that we “ignore” the serial pervert/liar and racist….with the “hope” that he might quietly disappear. Not working is it? He is actually more emboldened.

  25. Don’t forget numbers is a crybully.

    He wants to be attached so he can call you out for victim shaming.

    Ignore him, back to regular programming.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    While I’m here has Numbers posted any Lincoln Project (hoho) vids yet today?

    Club for Growth Takes on #NeverTrump Lincoln Project ‘Grifters’ in Powerful New Video, Website (1 Jul)

    “The Lincoln Project has nothing to do with principle, and everything to do with lining the pockets of failed consultants by attacking conservatives,” Club for Growth said in a press release.

    In reality, the story of the Lincoln Project PAC is far less noble and altruistic than the media makes it out to be. So much so that in the midst of the PAC’s recent blitz of tweets and ads showcasing their disdain for Trump and support for presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, the conservative Club for Growth Action group started a website focused on exposing the anti-Trump PAC columnist Miranda Devine dubbed “embittered former GOP grifters.”

    Financial disclosures show that 90% of the Lincoln Project’s donations go directly into their own pockets.

    Ninety percent? Ouch! That’s nearly as bad as the Clinton Foundation’s 94%. Never stand between a lefty and a bucket of money, someone said.

  27. Cassie of Sydney

    “Not really the sort of people I imagine at the beach unless Greenpeace is there.”

    I don’t think any beach anywhere could cope with Fatso Rein on it.

  28. Diogenes

    Sounds like junk science to me. ‘World first study’ means there is no other research to compare it with. It is by no means agreed that ‘internet addiction’ is a real clinical diagnosis. Since the study was only done recently, how can they know there will be ‘lifelong emotional problems’ – and so on. Red flags everywhere.

    Jo,
    whilst it hasn’t been replicated , and while Internet addiction may not be a formal “thing”, and they may be drawing a long bow in predicting “lifelong” damages ask any teacher of high school students the changes they have seen in student behaviour we have seen since the smartphone became ubiquitous. As a whole we have seen…
    We ask our kids to hand over their phones, and you would think that we are asking them to give up their first born, their right arm, all their money, and that their grandmother has just died.
    The attention span seems to have dropped from 5-10 minutes to under 5 minutes.
    Kids sitting next to each other will text or insta rather than talk to each other

  29. zyconoclast

    The Harvard graduate who said in a TikTok video that she would “stab” anyone who told her “All Lives Matter” revealed in a new pair of recordings that she has lost her job over the perceived threats and ensuing furor.

    “Standing up for Black Lives Matter put me in a place online to be seen by millions of people,” a teary Claira Janover said in a new video posted Wednesday afternoon. “The job that I’d worked really hard to get and meant a lot to me has called me and fired me because of everything.”

    Janover’s LinkedIn account lists her as an “incoming government and public business service analyst” at Deloitte, a UK-based accounting firm.

    During the video, Janover gestured to what appears to be a page from the company’s website, and noted that she was axed “even though they claim to stand against systematic bias, racism and unequal treatment.”

    Janover — who graduated from Harvard in May with a degree in government and psychology — went viral after posting a video to the platform railing against people with “the nerve, the sheer entitled Caucasity to say ‘All Lives Matter.’”

    “I’ma stab you,” the Connecticut native said in the video, zooming in tight on her face.

    “I’ma stab you, and while you’re struggling and bleeding out, I’ma show you my paper cut and say, ‘My cut matters, too.’”

    Janover, who contended that the message was an analogy rather than a serious threat, has since received a deluge of threats against her own life and safety.

    In her new videos, she blamed supporters of President Trump for going after her job.

    “Trump supporters took my job away from me,” she said in another new video posted Wednesday. “I have gotten death threats, r*p* threats, violent threats. It was OK, but now my future’s entirely compromised because Trump supporters have decided to come for my life.”

    Through tears, a defiant Janover vowed not to back down.

    “I’m too strong for you. I’m too strong for any of you ‘All Lives Matter,’ racist Trump supporters,” she said. “It sucks. But it doesn’t suck as much as systemic racism. And I’m not going to stop using my platform to advocate for it.”

    She also took a parting shot at Deloitte.

    “I’m sorry, Deloitte, that you can’t see that,” she said. “That you were cowardice [sic] enough to fight somebody who’s going to make an indelible change in the world and is going to have an impact.”

    Deloitte did not immediately respond to multiple requests for comment.

  30. William the Conjuror

    Message received, Bob. Out to you.

    That you, newly Anonymous, on the Truth Telling thread? Reads like you.

    a former serviceman

    No mention of Noddy on the Nominal Roll. 13 years as a university student isn’t service.

  31. egg_

    A few people here the other day scolded some of us for challenging the serial pervert/liar and racist from Toowoomba…..various people asked that we “ignore” the serial pervert/liar and racist….with the “hope” that he might quietly disappear. Not working is it? He is actually more emboldened.

    Trolls
    There are a whole bunch of theories about dealing with trolls. The most well-known being that you shouldn’t feed the trolls. Here are some others.

    Be vicious to trolls. It’s not like you’re depriving anybody of food or oxygen.
    Be capricious. If you’re consistent, they’ll know where the line is; if they know where the line is, they’ll skate to the edge of it.
    Be indifferent to trollish suffering. Being called a facist (not a typo: most trolls can’t spell) who’s suppressing free speech* is not a cause for concern; it’s semantically equivalent to “You’re doing your job.”
    Be obnoxious. Trolls do it because it amuses them to do it. Being made fun of is not amusing, particularly when you can enforce a ban. Remember: they need your site more than your site needs them.
    It all boils down to this: every so often you have to shoot a troll, the better to encourage the others. It’s fun!

    *By the way: the Internet is not public property. It’s a collection of various sites, most of which are privately owned. You do not have free speech rights on private property. It’s amazing how many ‘libertarians’ don’t get that.

  32. Geriatric Mayfly

    and reminiscing about lugging all their shit around the bush on exercise

    My guide in Zim used to recount his experiences as a special operations trainee. Dropped in the bush in boots, shorts, shirt and later a hat as a concession to UV. One knife from stores. First challenge: find water. Then he demonstrated how to make a plaited rope from the bark of baobab tree and fashion a noose to catch small game. The women would be handy here to make sure the plaits were crossed in the correct order and the finished product had that Pantene glow about it.

  33. zyconoclast

    Scholar forced to resign over study that found police shootings not biased against blacks

    Michigan State University leaders have successfully pressured Stephen Hsu to resign from his position as vice president of research and innovation after the Graduate Employees Union launched a campaign to oust him from his role.

    This came after the union, which represents teaching and research assistants, crawled through years of blog posts and interviews Hsu had conducted and criticized him for sharing content on genetic differences among different races.

    But the main thrust to oust Hsu came because the professor touted Michigan State research that found police are not more likely to shoot African-Americans.

  34. Mother Lode

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco police will stop releasing the mug shots of people who have been arrested unless they pose a threat to the public, as part of an effort to stop perpetuating racial stereotypes, the city’s police chief announced Wednesday.

    That is more or less confirming that crime is dominated by the Blacks – it is what they want to stop us seeing.

    Very sad about that bloke whose son was killed at CHOP who appeared on Fox.

    “In the interview, Anderson described his son as good-hearted but easily influenced”, without the all-too-usual hagiography, and without blaming everyone other than his kid, rings of honesty. I would hope it spares him from the fury that seems to corrode every other instinct away except anger that you see in so many others.

  35. A few people here the other day scolded some of us for challenging the serial pervert/liar and racist from Toowoomba…..various people asked that we “ignore” the serial pervert/liar and racist….with the “hope” that he might quietly disappear. Not working is it? He is actually more emboldened.

    Just another illustration of the selfishness and lack of discipline exhibited by most Glibertarians.
    Trying to achieve any form of collaborative activity amongst the usual suspects who post here resembles herding cats.

  36. Mater

    That you, newly Anonymous, on the Truth Telling thread? Reads like you.

    Sorry, Grigs. No.
    I thought I’d save Bob the embarrassment of being destroyed in front of his old Section mates.

    If someone’s talking on that thread, it certainly isn’t me.
    Perhaps a reassessment of your analytical abilities is in order. It wasn’t that long ago that you were claiming that one of Bob’s posts didn’t exist, because you were too fucking dumb and ignorant to find it.
    Stick with making throw rugs out of human skin. Embrace your natural talents.

  37. Infidel Tiger King

    Rebecca Ballhaus
    @rebeccaballhaus
    ·
    39m
    Peter Thiel has told people he plans to sit out this year’s campaign because he thinks Trump’s re-election is increasingly a long shot. He described the Trump campaign as the S.S. Minnow, a reference to the ship that ran aground on “Gilligan’s Island.”

    Thiel is one of the smartest living people.

  38. Maj

    Tucker on Republicans wanting to abolish Columbus Day:

  39. Maj

    Scotland the Brave is no more.

    Coronavirus: Face coverings to become mandatory in Scottish shops

    The use of face coverings will become mandatory in shops in Scotland as coronavirus restrictions are eased, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

    Non-essential shops have reopened in Scotland and bars and restaurants are due to open up again later this month.

    The first minister said the 2m physical distancing rule would be eased for some premises when the country enters the next phase of its routemap on 10 July.

    And she said face coverings would be mandatory in shops from that date.

  40. zyconoclast

    …Trump’s re-election is increasingly a long shot…

    +1

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “resembles herding cats.”

    So now we know what the pervert really did in Vietnam….he spent his time trying to “herd cats”. Wonder what for? No wonder the Turd’s wife seals him in car. Cats aren’t safe near him.

  42. cohenite

    egg_
    #3502459, posted on July 3, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    Agree with every one except being capricious; subtlety like that, wit, effort – except to occasionally do some research to better inform yourself and lurkers and hone your arguments – even sarcasm are all wasted on trolls. They are members of the left; they are only about power, self gratification, self vindication and destruction.

  43. Bruce of Newcastle

    Coronavirus: Face coverings to become mandatory in Scottish shops

    Kilts, but on faces not balls.

  44. Dr Faustus

    A few people here the other day scolded some of us for challenging the serial pervert/liar and racist from Toowoomba…..various people asked that we “ignore” the serial pervert/liar and racist….with the “hope” that he might quietly disappear. Not working is it? He is actually more emboldened.

    Not that this particularly relates to yourself, but I guess I didn’t appreciate the importance of responding to rambling rubbish with text carpet bombing.
    My mistake.

  45. Cassie of Sydney

    “egg_
    #3502459, posted on July 3, 2020 at 12:21 pm”

    thanks Egg….I think “vicious” is best…particularly when dealing with serial pervert/liar and racist from Toowoomba.

  46. cohenite

    Thiel is one of the smartest living people.

    Someone got to him; his boyfriend is a greenie isn’t he.

  47. johanna

    As a whole we have seen…
    We ask our kids to hand over their phones, and you would think that we are asking them to give up their first born, their right arm, all their money, and that their grandmother has just died.
    The attention span seems to have dropped from 5-10 minutes to under 5 minutes.
    Kids sitting next to each other will text or insta rather than talk to each other

    Diogenes, I do not doubt any of your observations.

    That is no excuse for entrepreneurial, taxpayer funded junk science.

  48. From –

    zyconoclast
    #3502461, posted on July 3, 2020 at 12:23 pm
    Scholar forced to resign over study that found police shootings not biased against blacks.

    His link (The college Fix)

    Founded in 2011, the College Fix is a conservative news blog run by the Student Free Press Association which is a nonprofit organization run by veteran journalists to help beginning journalists. The veteran journalists in this case are all conservatives. The College Fix typically writes about higher education news, but also covers politics.

    Read our profile on United States government and media.

    Funded by / Ownership

    The College Fix is owned by the Student Free Press Association, which is a nonprofit run by journalists. The website lacks transparency as they do not disclose top donors. However, a search reveals they have been funded by Koch Industries and The Bradley Foundation. Revenue is also derived through advertising.

  49. Geriatric Mayfly

    And she said face coverings would be mandatory in shops from that date.

    Sturgeon I am guessing. Another nutter risen well beyond her station.

  50. incoherent rambler

    I’m amazed that our straight jacketed and handcuffed contributor can post here.
    Have to give him points for persistence.

  51. Maj

    Texas Governor Contradicts Everything He Ever Said About Mandating Masks

    Texas Governor Greg Abbott faces a backlash of fury after issuing an order requiring the wearing of masks in most of the state’s 254 counties. The order issued on the day before the Independence Day weekend begins, requires the wearing of masks in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases to help slow the spread of the coronavirus.

    “Wearing a face covering in public is proven to be one of the most effective ways we have to slow the spread of COVID-19,” Governor Abbott said in a statement released on Thursday afternoon. “We have the ability to keep businesses open and move our economy forward so that Texans can continue to earn a paycheck, but it requires each of us to do our part to protect one another—and that means wearing a face-covering in public spaces.”

    Wearing a face covering in public is proven to be one of the most effective ways to slow the spread of #COVID19 while continuing to keep Texas businesses open.

    Texans should wear a face covering for the health of their families, friends, and for all fellow Texans. pic.twitter.com/5oWVfZMsph

    — Gov. Greg Abbott (@GovAbbott) July 2, 2020

    Criticism over the governor’s order poured in quickly on social media.

    Quorum Report’s editor Scott Braddock opened a salvo of criticism, saying the governor’s order “directly contradicts everything he has ever said about the government being able to force you to wear a mask.”

    Of course circumstances change but since some of you asked: Yes, Gov. @GregAbbott_TX‘s order on face masks today directly contradicts everything he has ever said about government being able to force you to wear a mask #TxLege #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/wvGxYqqLfG

    — Scott Braddock (@scottbraddock) July 2, 2020

    While the governor’s order prohibits the incarceration of people refusing to comply with the executive order, it does call for a fine “not to exceed $250” for second or subsequent violations. The governor’s order calls for a verbal or written warning for a first violation.

    Breitbart Texas reached out to the Office of the Texas Governor for comment about the criticism of the order. A spokesman responded that mandating the masks makes it possible to keep the Texas economy open.

    Criticism continued from others responding to the governor’s tweet.

    Kristen Rowin tweeted a definition of liberty…

    Definition of LIBERTY:
    1:the quality or state of being free:
    a power to do as one pleases
    b freedom from physical restraint
    c freedom from arbitrary or despotic control
    d positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights/privileges
    e the power of choice

    — Kristen Alamo Rowin (@KristenRowin) July 2, 2020

    While Pamela Mynard tweeted her refusal to comply.

    I do not consent and I Will not comply. Wearing a mask lowers your O2 sats and increases your CO2 levels. I wrote PPE OSHA compliance policies as a Safety Director. Get your facts straight!

    — Mynard Pamela (@MynardPamela) July 2, 2020

  52. Top Ender

    James Cook statue ‘lookout’ fined $2000 for damage

    KIERAN GAIR
    JOURNALIST

    A self-styled social activist who stood guard for a NSW Greens staffer while she defaced a statue of Captain Cook in Sydney’s Hyde Park last month has been fined $2000 after losing her bid to escape­ a conviction.

    Magistrate Jennifer Atkinson told Sydney’s Downing Centre Local Court that Charmaine Morrison-Mills, 27, had deliberately used the cover of darkness to “damage a protected place” and that her “serious” crime “required a conviction”.

    Morrison-Mills and her co-accused­, Xiaoran Shi, were charged with destroying or damaging­ property after spray-painting “sovereignty never ceded” and “no pride in genocide” on the statue of Captain Cook just hours after a Black Lives Matter rally had ended in Sydney on June 15. Both women pleaded guilty.

    “She was acting as a lookout and carried the bags there and back,” Ms Atkinson told the court on Thursday. “It was part of a planned criminal activity.

    “No one was around, it was dark, and it was clear from the actions­ depicted in the CCTV that they did not want to be seen while doing it.”

    Defence lawyer Carolina Soto said Morrison-Mills should be spared a conviction, partly because she now required weekly psychological help due to being strip-searched while in police custody ­for 15 hours.

    Ms Soto said the community support worker, who holds a master­’s degree in social work from Western Sydney University, had also been subjected to sexual and physical threats online in the wake of her arrest.

    “She never anticipated the negative media,” Ms Soto said. “There’s nothing I can say that will justify her behaviour (but) under­pinning her behaviour was a strong sense of justice.”

    Police prosecutor Ernest Chang said the CCTV footage shown in court proved the damage caused to the historic statue was “not trivial” and that it had taken three attempts by council workers to remove the graffiti. He said the “wearing of hoodies” by the women indicated the vandalism was not a “chance or opportunistic offence”, but rather a “deliberate and serious act”.

    “Her (Morrison-Mills’s) role was to hand the spray cans to her co-accused and then keep a lookout,” he said. “Three sides of the statue were damaged … They both had a part to play.”

    In rejecting Morrison-Mills’s bid to stop the court from recording a conviction, Ms Atkinson said there was no indication to suggest the offender’s “employment is in jeopardy” or that a conviction would likely prevent her from being accepted into the Australian Association of Social Workers.

    She said Morrison-Mills was an “intelligent, idealistic young woman” but t it was not the court’s place to “comment on the matters” which she wanted to raise.

    “Ms Morrison-Mills is before the court for breaches of criminal law,” she said. “It is not approp­riate to deal with the matter by dismissing the charges. It can’t be said the damage was trivial at all.”

    Morrison-Mills will also pay the City of Sydney $450 to cover half the cost of cleaning the statue. Shi is expected to pay the rest.

    Oz, but for some reason no comments allowed…woke moderator?

  53. johanna

    Cassie, I though the Doomlord had asked you several times to stop commenting on speculative sexual motives for people’s behaviour.

    Apart from anything else, it is outright libellous. Everyone knows the identity of the person you are referring to.

    Your hate-filled diatribes only reflect on yourself, and elevate the importance of a very unimportant person.

  54. Cassie of Sydney

    “Your hate-filled diatribes only reflect on yourself”

    LOL..from the “queen” of hate filled diatribes.

  55. cohenite

    The troll now lying about the blm propaganda that cops target blacks. That is a lie, they don’t; just like 3rd nations don’t die at a higher rate in Australian jails. That’s another lie.

  56. Struth

    It was good to talk to a fellow musician last night.
    Although she was crushed.
    There are two types.
    Those useless for anything taxpayer supported festival snot bags who produce one watchable act per 1000 acts and those that work the pubs in private sector and must work to hold patrons and sell drinks.
    If you are good and reliable, you can make a living from it, and we are all self employed.
    I’d do, or used to do, an average of 20 to 30 hours a week practice for maybe two four hour gigs per weekend, (enough for me) using my PA and stage lighting, strings, harps, bookings, transport etc etc.
    And I love playing music so I wasn’t complaining at all.
    Better than driving trucks in Australia as a life style.
    The muso I was chatting to last night would do afternoons in coastal restaurants, caravan parks and resorts and run to the next gig in a pub, easily making 1500 or so bucks a weekend.
    You’ve got to be good for that, and versatile.

    However, when the lock down occurred I could not bring myself to practice, had lost all my gigs anyway, my mind constantly going back to the crime being committed against the nation.
    Of course, I wasn’t the only one.
    She said the same last night.
    She just couldn’t keep her mind on it at all.
    It was sort of nice to know.
    And I made sure I told her I was exactly the same.
    I know the effort she has put in and the amount of work she was just starting to get, with being the winner out of Gympie music fest, and doing Tamworth with high profile names.
    She’s a real talent and a hard worker.

    Now this is not having a specific whinge, but I will admit the sense of hopelessness in the face of a crime being committed against you with no way to fight back was very overwhelming and still is.
    I am one of those guys that understands my freedoms and rights and was appalled at my fellow Australians who screamed in fear and allowed this to happen because we could not fight back when the crowd didn’t want to.
    (Remember the days when weeks could pass without the government being in anyway a consideration in your life).
    Without their tyranny to be mindful of.
    The girls in the pub last night were shattered, wrecked, ………changed…their humour had gone.
    They were visually shaken and one in tears because I unwittingly asked about her coping with lock down.
    How have you been coping with the lock down?, ……..the poor little thing had tears in her eyes where I politely turned my eyes away so she could wipe them.

    There are great kids out there.
    How have we let this happen to them?
    What have we lost in just music, where the government are funding the useless parasitical part of it but of course not the private sector musos.
    But the point being, forget the money, what have we lost and what have we done to the young’ns?
    Well I haven’t done anything, except fight it, but that’s useless.
    That wasn’t a pub I went to last night, it was a clinically separated feeding centre operated by those who really have a form of government enforced PTSD.
    Disgusting.

  57. Cassie of Sydney

    “Your hate-filled diatribes only reflect on yourself, and elevate the importance of a very unimportant person.”

    Such sanctimonious guff from a “person” who never failed to post hate-filled diatribes and lies about Lizzie! LOL.

  58. egg_

    they are only about power

    Bullying 101
    Power through abuse.
    Mocking is a good takedown for their brittle egos.

  59. egg_

    “Your hate-filled diatribes only reflect on yourself, and elevate the importance of a very unimportant person.”

    Trolls trying to inflame a blog?
    Da ironing!

  60. Geriatric Mayfly

    Defence lawyer Carolina Soto said Morrison-Mills should be spared a conviction, partly because she now required weekly psychological help due to being strip-searched while in police custody ­for 15 hours. Ms Soto said the community support worker, who holds a master­’s degree in social work from

    Only once a week to rid the psyche of such deep scars? I suspect there may be digressions for one who holds a masters in social work.

  61. incoherent rambler

    being strip-searched while in police custody ­for 15 hours

    15 hours is a slow strip search.

  62. JMH

    Johanna at 12.43 pm:

    Spot on. Hypocrites seem to think they are above this Blog’s rules.

  63. Geriatric Mayfly

    15 hours is a slow strip search.

    For the old Lezzos on duty, the dance of the 15 veils perhaps.

  64. Struth

    To put it more simply than my usual 500 word rave.
    Last night reminded me just how socially connected young people need to be.
    I’m an older truck driver type who is very used to just my own company and look forward to it.
    Many of you will be the same.

    What this has done to bright young healthy girls (and boys I suppose) who are very social in that time of their lives is disgusting and I had it brought home to me last night just how bad this has been for them mentally.
    They all aren’t buried in their phones here in QLD.
    These politicians are criminals of the highest order.

  65. Maj

    Attorney-General seeks advice on stripping Dyson Heydon of QC title

    The NSW Attorney-General will seek advice about stripping Dyson Heydon of the title of Queen’s Counsel after an investigation found the former High Court judge sexually harassed six staff members.

    Attorney-General Mark Speakman told the Herald “the allegations against Mr Heydon are appalling” and he understood community concerns about the former judge keeping the title.

    How is it possible to punish someone before the have got a chance to defend themselves and cross-examine their accusers?

  66. Struth

    And you couldn’t even give them a hug.
    Think about that for tyranny.

    FMD

  67. Cassie of Sydney

    “Attorney-General seeks advice on stripping Dyson Heydon of QC title”

    That’s Mark Speakman here inNSW…closet progressive Greenie….he joined in the pile on of Bettina Arndt earlier this year.

  68. Helen

    Bruce of Newcastle – why is the case against Maxwell being moved, to I think, New York? Is the age of consent 18 there? There doesn’t seem to be much in the indictment – some massages that led to sometimes sex (or statutory rope if below the age of consent)

    All the references are to minors under the age of 18, yet the Rutherford girls who were systematically and savagely roped were described as “young women” of fifteen or so.

    Am I missing something?

  69. Helen

    Different countries, I know, also different standards or just some standards some of the time?

  70. egg_

    One of the waitresses is a girl with such outstanding vocals and guitar accuracy and skill, she should be world famous in a just world, is or was a little pretty asian background slip of a girl has stacked on about ten kilos.

    Starting to resemble the fat sh1ny @rsed public servants who though it was a good idea to “lock down” the population on home detention for 2 months?
    6 months* or more was not out of the question?

    *”Reopening” to a stone age Economy?
    The Greens would be in their element!

  71. Mother Lode

    the conservative Club for Growth Action group started a website focused on exposing the anti-Trump PAC columnist Miranda Devine dubbed “embittered former GOP grifters.”

    Miranda is achieving some prominence. She may begin to redeem herself after her sneering at people who despaired of that pompous ogre, Trumble.

  72. egg_

    *”Reopening” to a stone age Economy?

    SloMo now runnings ads about reopening businesses in a “bright new day”!
    Yay!
    Too bad Dannograd is now proof positive of the fvck all infections we’d have had as the Lebs go about their business as they have all along.

  73. There’s an opportunity during this crisis to leave the old shibboleths behind.

    It is our shared task to ensure that the deeply human struggle against humiliation, far from being over, is waged systematically and strategically. It is our collective responsibility, all of us who are on the side of the many in defiance of the narrow interests of the few, to fight alongside the young people who are so disrespected by late capitalism, which appears to have never learned that we cannot be fully human while we deny the humanity of others on the basis of class, gender, race, disability, age or sexuality; and that knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing is the recipe for social pain rather than social progress. Sometimes, it seems, it is only when we face a social emergency that we engage more deeply and collectively in emergence. And as we unveil the concealed we change, even little by little, the unjust way of things.

  74. Entropy

    There are two types.
    Those useless for anything taxpayer supported festival snot bags who produce one watchable act per 1000 acts and those that work the pubs in private sector and must work to hold patrons and sell drinks.
    If you are good and reliable, you can make a living from it, and we are all self employed.

    One of my offsiders has played in bands since the eighties (a young likely lad in a mushroom records funded music video is the high point of his career, I discovered I even had a song of the band on a cassette tape). He told me much the same, old fashioned reasonable lefty as he is. Most of the wannabes in their youth, who just can’t play as well as they believe, get into activism as their reason d’être as they aren’t going to be getting chicks through guitar talent and the hard yards required.

  75. Dave in Marybrook

    Struth-
    great rant. I think we’re of a kind, even if my pub gig days are longer gone.
    The future of Oz music is the story of the last two decades- pub gigs will be crushed by FIFO festivals, who are bigger, have the ear of the arts press, can absorb continuously increasing compliance, can be quicker to jet in the flavour of the month for kids, easily sidestep the legitimate drugs repercussions by providing amnesty bins and comedown tents and so join in with the aforementioned progressive press, and provide-
    NO ongoing jobs
    NO permanent infrastructure works, and shithouse cut’n’paste music because
    NO feedback from an immediate audience.

  76. Cassie of Sydney

    “Miranda is achieving some prominence. She may begin to redeem herself after her sneering at people who despaired of that pompous ogre, Trumble.”

    I have found it very hard to forgive Miranda for her “delcon” sneer and the fact that she, despite being a conservative, propped up Turdbull as PM for so long. I think that she, like a lot of us, was hugely disappointed in Abbott but she then threw all her eggs into Turdbull’s camp..she sold her soul.

  77. Entropy

    Defence lawyer Carolina Soto said Morrison-Mills should be spared a conviction, partly because she now required weekly psychological help due to being strip-searched while in police custody ­for 15 hours.

    Leaving aside the 15 hour strip search only psychological help she would need would be getting her either a) recognise she wasn’t a hero, she probably thought it would be a world of laurels and rose petals; b) a criminal act can have consequences.

  78. Cassie of Sydney

    I was very surprised that Maxwell had stayed in the USA…I would have thought that she would have fled to France..which doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the USA.

  79. Kev

    William the Conjuror
    Newman’s soldiery?
    No soldiery for Newman. Spent his time in the army getting an engineering degree and an MBA, then left.

    What’s your point. Why do you make shit up and post it as fact. Is it just because Newman was a conservative?
    As Entropy says Why do we care – he’s just a politician so I’m not defending Newman but just calling you out on your bullshit.
    Newman served in PNG, the Solomon Islands, West Germany and Hawaii and was involved in civil design and construction projects as well as combat engineering tasks. He also served in 2nd Combat Engineer Regiment. All that’s reasonable service for 13 years at a time when we had no troops deployed overseas.

    I knew him when he was a little tacker when his father was my CO and then later in parliament. Newman’s mother also served as a Senator. The whole family have contributed to the country.

    Have you?

  80. Farmer Gez

    1735099
    #3502512, posted on July 3, 2020 at 1:26 pm
    There’s an opportunity during this crisis to leave the old shibboleths behind.

    An amazing article Commie Bob.
    It’s amazing that you could be bothered to write so much meaningless shit during a real crisis.

  81. Cassie of Sydney

    “Kev
    #3502518, posted on July 3, 2020 at 1:41 pm”

    Comment of the day.

  82. Rebel with cause

    Seems clear to me the bargain being offered: Want the COVID hysteria to go away? Elect Biden.

    That’s the deal.

  83. Makka

    Why do you make shit up and post it as fact.

    numbers is a communist. Lying is in his DNA.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    There’s an opportunity during this crisis to leave the old shibboleths behind.

    Bye, Numbers. We’ll send you a card from the 21st Century.

  85. Lodger from Oz

    Struth
    #3502487, posted on July 3, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    Hi Struth,
    Fellow muso here. Sad story from your night out. I’ve been sitting around since March doing precious little other than lurking and watching Youtube clips. My main gig is a band and at the start of the year, we already had over 50 gigs locked in so this would have been potentially a great year. Now, we’re just watching them all flit by in the diary. I’ve basically written the year off, band-wise – no one’s going to be dancing for months the way things are heading.

    Some of the solo guys are starting to get work (Brisbane). But just to keep the hand in, the band and I got in and recorded some tracks for a CD the other day. Haven’t heard a final mix yet. I’m sure it’ll be sensational! At least we were sober .

    Luckily there’s Tom’s cartoons (thanks Tom) and interesting discussions here at the Cat. Bonus is my catalogue of abusive language is improving rapidly. It’ll come in handy on State Polling Day when the first Labor Party hack tries to hand me a how-to-vote card. Morons. Any how, cheers & look after yourself.

  86. Helen

    Cassie, I thought she was in France just a week or so ago. If so there must be some kind of deal on offer. Hope she isn’t arkincided along the way.

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    Want the COVID hysteria to go away? Elect Biden.

    Nice republic you have there, it’d be a shame if anything was to happen to it.
    #protectionischeap

  88. Barry

    Interesting that Dan has not denied that nasal swabs taken for Covid19 testing are also being sequenced for the DNA of the test subject.

    This testing program is a Statists wet dream.

    People rolling up in cars and willingly providing ID and a DNA sample – all to go on the Vicstan DNA database.

  89. Cassie of Sydney

    “Hope she isn’t arkincided along the way.”

    Helen, I think it is inevitable she will be….I have no doubt she has a lot of dirt on Bill Clinton.

  90. rickw

    Milling Machines:

    The problem with small milling machines is that they don’t scale down as well as lathes because cutting forces are more variable and not directed so neatly into the bed as on a lathe. The end result of this is that the light weight Chicom mill is comparatively worse than the comparable lathe.

    About as low as you can go:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SIEG-SX1L-Milling-Machine-400mm-Long-Table-150W-DC-Motor-Overload-Protection/293450462520?hash=item445302b538%3Ag%3Ar2IAAOSw0e9UyFNc&LH_ItemCondition=1000

    The pivot column design on this is a pretty craptastic idea. Realistically I think you need to go much bigger if you want something useful:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Geared-Head-Milling-Drilling-Machine-1100W-240V-Mill-Drill/383602837426?hash=item595082c7b2:g:d0EAAOxyQ45Q9UAM

    If you can pick up a used RF-25 or RF-31 mill drill or their equivalent, they are usually ok. The plastic guard ones are the best option as the ones with sheet metal guards are really noisy. Putting a cheap digital readout on the quill is almost a must do.

  91. dopey

    Dyson Sphere? Anything within reach of a judge.

  92. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    shithouse cut’n’paste music

    Don’t forget the outsized influence of those arseholes at jjj who’ve been able to push luvvie mediocrities who have all the necessary woke credentials (and often zero real talent).

    The old ground rules of the yartz/entertainment industry should apply. Talent + hard work + perseverance should logically (or hopefully) equal success.

  93. Farmer Gez

    You’ll notice the “A” class citizens of the AFL have been whisked out of the lockdown suburbs and flown interstate to their luxury hubs to kick a footy around.

    We’re all in this together.

  94. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    due to being strip-searched while in police custody ­for 15 hours

    As opposed to being a teenage girl copping a strip search by police when trying to enter a muzak festival.

    Entirely hunky dory if you’re NSW police.

  95. Top Ender

    The Ghilaine Maxwell indictment – or a fair bit of it – is up at the Oz.

    I can post it all if anyone’s interested.

  96. Top Ender

    Half a tonne of coke!

    Darren John Mohr, a hulking Bondi drug kingpin who tried to import half a tonne of cocaine into Sydney by boat, has been jailed for at least 18 years.

    The former Bondi cafe owner, 46, was motivated by money and expected to receive millions of dollars for his significant role in the international plot to ship the half-tonne from Chile in 2016, Justice Helen Wilson said on Friday. ‘This was an extremely serious offence that Mr Mohr entered into for no better reason than the lure of money and the prestige and lifestyle money could buy him,’ she said.

    He was jailed for 32 years with a non-parole period of 18, despite letters to the judge from both Mohr and his ex-girlfriend Krissy Marsh

    Daily Mail

  97. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Ghislaine Maxwell

    Apparently she’s likely to end up in the same “correctional facility” as Jeffrey “didn’t kill ‘imself” Epstein.

  98. Infidel Tiger King

    Speak For Yourself
    @SFY
    ·
    Jul 1
    .
    @MarcellusWiley
    breaks down why the NBA’s plan to paint ‘Black Lives Matter’ on courts is a bad idea.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SFY/status/1278064470435090438

    Magnificent.

  99. Mater

    You’ll notice the “A” class citizens of the AFL have been whisked out of the lockdown suburbs and flown interstate to their luxury hubs to kick a footy around.

    Had to laugh when I saw this on the news:

    Melbourne people living in the virus hot spots have flooded the VicRoads website in an attempt to change their address to avoid lockdown.

    …The authority will now review and request additional information from holders in the 10 locked-down postcodes after a surge of licence amendments were lodged as people tried desperately to avoid stage three restrictions for a second time.

  100. Helen

    Please do, Top Ender. There is something not quite right about it all.

  101. Dave in Marybrook

    Better still, put up a Ghislaine Maxwell “suicide watch” sweepstake.
    I’m up for post-trial, pre-sentencing, but long enough before the election for the ickiness to stick around… October 22.

  102. Des Deskperson

    “the allegations against Mr Heydon are appalling”

    What allegations?

    An internal investigation by the HC determined that Heydon had breached the required standards of workplace conduct. It was not a criminal trial and there were findings of criminal conduct.

    Heydon has categorically denied any allegation of predatory behaviour or breaches of the law – note that last phrase – and has said that if any conduct of his has caused offence, that result was inadvertent and unintended, and he apologises for any offence caused.

    There is a suggestion, in his denials, that his conduct may have been, err, ambiguous by workplace standards, but until he is charged and convicted by a criminal court of a criminal offence, that should be the end of the story.

  103. cohenite

    Attorney-General Mark Speakman told the Herald “the allegations against Mr Heydon are appalling” and he understood community concerns about the former judge keeping the title.

    Fucking allegations, none of a criminal nature but lets punish the guy anyway.

  104. cohenite

    Top Ender
    #3502534, posted on July 3, 2020 at 2:05 pm
    The Ghilaine Maxwell indictment – or a fair bit of it – is up at the Oz.
    I can post it all if anyone’s interested.

    Please do.

  105. Cassie of Sydney

    “Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3502545, posted on July 3, 2020 at 2:14 pm
    Some breaking Ghislaine Maxwell news …”

    Maxwell is a dead woman walking.

  106. Top Ender

    Ghislaine Maxwell graphic indictment outlines how Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged madam tried to ‘normalise’ sexual abuse

    THEAUSTRALIAN.COM.AU

    Ghislaine Maxwell: Epstein’s former girlfriend charged with alleged sex crimes

    Jeffrey Epstein’s former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell has been charged for allegedly grooming girls as young as 14.

    WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

    Ghislaine Maxwell’s crimes are laid out in unsparing, vivid detail across a 17-page indictment.

    Its opening paragraph sums up the case, claiming that from at least 1994 to at least 1997 Ms Maxwell “assisted, facilitated, and contributed to Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom and ultimately abuse victims known to Maxwell and Epstein to be under the age of 18.

    “The victims were as young as 14 years old when they were groomed and abused by Maxwell and Epstein, both of whom knew that certain victims were in fact under the age of 18,” the indictment says.

    The indictment lays out the “means and methods” by which Ms Maxwell allegedly groomed “multiple minor girls” to be abused by Epstein.

    First, she would “befriend” some of the victims before they were abused: asking them about their lives, their education and their families. Both Ms Maxwell and Epstein would “spend time building friendships” with them, taking them to the cinema or shopping.

    “Having developed a rapport with a victim,” the indictment alleges, Ms Maxwell would “try to normalise sexual abuse.” She would do this by discussing sexual topics with the underage girls, undressing in front of them or being present when an underage girl was naked.

    A crucial tactic was Epstein’s offers to pay for travel or education for some of the underage girls. Ms Maxwell, the indictment alleges, encouraged them to accept the offers. As a consequence, “victims were made to feel indebted and believed that Maxwell and Epstein were trying to help them”.

    Often, Ms Maxwell was present “during minor victims’ interactions with Epstein, including interactions where the minor victim was undressed or that involved sex acts with Epstein”, the indictment claims. Having an adult woman there “helped put the victims at ease”.

    The indictment alleges Ms Maxwell would massage Epstein in front of underage girls, and encourage the girls to massage him themselves — “including sexualised massages during which a minor victim would be fully or partially nude”. Many of these massages, the indictment said, “resulted in Epstein sexually abusing the minor victims”. On some occasions, Ms Maxwell was allegedly present for and took part in the sexual abuse. Some of these instances took place “in the context of massages which developed into sexual encounters”.

    Epstein’s abuse took the form, “among other things”, of touching the victims’ breasts and genitals, using a vibrator on them, instructing them to touch him while he masturbated and directing them to touch his genitals.

    According to the US authorities’ detention memo, filed at court to resist any application for bail, Ms Maxwell had “an extraordinary incentive to flee” because of her ready access to large amounts of money and extensive international connections. The document said that the FBI had identified 15 bank accounts linked to Ms Maxwell since 2016 and was still looking for others.

    It added: “During that period the total balances of those accounts have ranged from a total of hundreds of thousands of dollars to more than $US 20 million. During the same period the defendant engaged in transfers between her accounts of hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time.”

    Large amounts of money were moved in 2019, including transfers of $US 500,000 in March 2019 and $US300,000 in July 2019. Last year she had a number of foreign bank accounts with balances totalling more than dollars 1 million. Between 2007 and 2011 amounts of up to dollars 20 million were transferred to her from accounts linked to Epstein then moved again into other accounts held by an alleged accomplice.

    The detention memo added that since the indictment against Epstein was unsealed in July 2019, Ms Maxwell “stopped appearing in public entirely” and had been “hiding out in locations in New England”. The document continues: “It appears she made intentional efforts to avoid detection including moving locations at least twice.”

    Ms Maxwell was also alleged to have changed her phone number — registering it under the name G Max — and email address. She ordered packages for delivery under a false name. In December last year she made the cash purchase of a 63-hectare property in Bradford “through a carefully anonymised LLC (limited liability company)”.

    The indictment names four places where victims were “groomed and/or abused”, although it does not generally specify what happened where.

    The first was a seven-storey house on the Upper East Side of New York City owned by Epstein. It had previously housed a well-known private school.

    The circumstances in which Epstein came to own the house are somewhat mysterious. It was previously owned by Leslie Wexner, a billionaire mentor of Epstein, although he never lived there. He transferred the house to Epstein’s ownership, free of charge, in about 1996. In 2011 its ownership was transferred from a trust controlled by Mr Wexner and Epstein to a company in the US Virgin Islands controlled by Epstein. Last year the property was said to be worth $US56 million.

    Guests have described leopard print chairs, a sculpture of a naked African warrior in double life size and a picture of a woman holding an opium pipe while caressing a lion. There were photos on the walls of Bill Clinton, Woody Allen and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia.

    The second was Epstein’s house at Palm Beach in southern Florida. He bought the property for $US 2.5 million in 1990. A search of the property after Epstein’s arrest in 2008 for procuring an underage girl for prostitution and soliciting a prostitute found framed nude photos, massage tables, bathroom soap shaped like genitalia and a fully equipped dentist’s chair.

    The third property was his ranch in Santa Fe, in New Mexico. On the 4050-hectare site is a 26,700 sq ft house, an aeroplane hangar and a landing strip. It was previously owned by Bruce King, a governor of the state.

    The fourth was Ms Maxwell’s home in London. At one stage she owned a mews house in Belgravia but it is unclear whether this is the property referred to in the indictment.

    VICTIM ONE: Recruited at age 14

    Three victims’ experiences are described in the indictment, although none of them is named.

    The first victim allegedly met Ms Maxwell when she was about 14. During multiple interactions at Epstein’s various homes, the indictment alleges, Ms Maxwell “groomed Minor Victim-1 to engage in sexual acts with Epstein through multiple means”.

    Ms Maxwell and Epstein allegedly took her to the cinema and on shopping trips. Ms Maxwell then began undressing in front of her, and was allegedly present when the girl undressed in front of Epstein. This, the prosecutors say, was an attempt to “normalise inappropriate and abusive conduct”.

    Within a year Epstein began sexually abusing the girl. Ms Maxwell was sometimes present and involved in the abuse, the indictment claims. “In particular,” the document alleges, Ms Maxwell “involved Minor Victim-1 in group sexualised massages of Epstein,” during which “[Ms] Maxwell and/or Minor Victim-1 would engage in sex acts with Epstein.” The alleged abuse took place at Epstein’s properties in New York and Florida.

    VICTIM TWO: Flown to New Mexico for Epstein

    The second girl met Ms Maxwell at least once in or around 1996 at Epstein’s property in New Mexico. At the time she was under 18. The girl “had flown into New Mexico from out of state at Epstein’s invitation for the purpose of being groomed for and/or subjected to acts of sexual abuse”.

    Ms Maxwell and Epstein took her to the cinema, and Ms Maxwell took her shopping. Ms Maxwell asked her about her school, classes and family, before allegedly beginning “her efforts to groom” the girl by, “among other things, providing an unsolicited massage to Minor Victim-2, during which Minor Victim-2 was topless”. Ms Maxwell is also alleged to have encouraged the girl to massage Epstein.

    VICTIM THREE: Groomed and befriended in London

    Ms Maxwell “groomed and befriended” the third underage girl in London between approximately 1994 and 1995, “during a period of time in which Maxwell knew that Minor Victim-3 was under the age of 18”. Ms Maxwell then allegedly introduced her to Epstein and arranged “multiple interactions” between them. During those interactions, Maxwell encouraged the girl to massage Epstein “knowing”, the indictment says, “that Epstein would engage in sex acts with Minor Victim-3 during those massages”.

    The girl did so, and he sexually abused her, the indictment claims.

    In April 2016 Ms Maxwell faced questions under oath in a deposition as part of a civil lawsuit. Asked whether Epstein had “a scheme to recruit underage girls for sexual massages”, she replied: “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

    Asked to list all the people under the age of 18 that she interacted with at any of his properties, she replied: “I’m not aware of anybody that I interacted with, other than obviously [the person who had brought the lawsuit] who was 17 at this point.”

    In addition, Ms Maxwell claimed that she did not recall whether Epstein possessed sex toys and said that she “wasn’t aware” that Epstein was “having sexual activities with anyone when I was with him other than myself”.

    She testified that she had “not given anyone a massage”, and specifically that she “never gave” the second victim in this indictment a massage. The indictment says that these statements were instances of “false testimony”.

    The Times

  107. egg_

    Men Agree To Let Women Run The World As Long As They’ll Stop Asking Questions During Football Games

    Do Lesbian communes work out well, or Lord of the Flies type stuff?

  108. Top Ender

    Ghislaine Maxwell graphic indictment outlines how Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged madam tried to ‘normalise’ sexual abuse

    THEAUSTRALIAN.COM.AU

    Ghislaine Maxwell: Epstein’s former girlfriend charged with alleged sex crimes

    Jeffrey Epstein’s former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell has been charged for allegedly grooming girls as young as 14.

    WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

    Ghislaine Maxwell’s crimes are laid out in unsparing, vivid detail across a 17-page indictment.

    Its opening paragraph sums up the case, claiming that from at least 1994 to at least 1997 Ms Maxwell “assisted, facilitated, and contributed to Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom and ultimately abuse victims known to Maxwell and Epstein to be under the age of 18.

    “The victims were as young as 14 years old when they were groomed and abused by Maxwell and Epstein, both of whom knew that certain victims were in fact under the age of 18,” the indictment says.

    The indictment lays out the “means and methods” by which Ms Maxwell allegedly groomed “multiple minor girls” to be abused by Epstein.

    First, she would “befriend” some of the victims before they were abused: asking them about their lives, their education and their families. Both Ms Maxwell and Epstein would “spend time building friendships” with them, taking them to the cinema or shopping.

    “Having developed a rapport with a victim,” the indictment alleges, Ms Maxwell would “try to normalise sexual abuse.” She would do this by discussing sexual topics with the underage girls, undressing in front of them or being present when an underage girl was naked.

    A crucial tactic was Epstein’s offers to pay for travel or education for some of the underage girls. Ms Maxwell, the indictment alleges, encouraged them to accept the offers. As a consequence, “victims were made to feel indebted and believed that Maxwell and Epstein were trying to help them”.

    Often, Ms Maxwell was present “during minor victims’ interactions with Epstein, including interactions where the minor victim was undressed or that involved sex acts with Epstein”, the indictment claims. Having an adult woman there “helped put the victims at ease”.

    The indictment alleges Ms Maxwell would massage Epstein in front of underage girls, and encourage the girls to massage him themselves — “including sexualised massages during which a minor victim would be fully or partially nude”. Many of these massages, the indictment said, “resulted in Epstein sexually abusing the minor victims”. On some occasions, Ms Maxwell was allegedly present for and took part in the sexual abuse. Some of these instances took place “in the context of massages which developed into sexual encounters”.

    Epstein’s abuse took the form, “among other things”, of touching the victims’ breasts and genitals, using a vibrator on them, instructing them to touch him while he masturbated and directing them to touch his genitals.

    According to the US authorities’ detention memo, filed at court to resist any application for bail, Ms Maxwell had “an extraordinary incentive to flee” because of her ready access to large amounts of money and extensive international connections. The document said that the FBI had identified 15 bank accounts linked to Ms Maxwell since 2016 and was still looking for others.

    It added: “During that period the total balances of those accounts have ranged from a total of hundreds of thousands of dollars to more than $US 20 million. During the same period the defendant engaged in transfers between her accounts of hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time.”

    Large amounts of money were moved in 2019, including transfers of $US 500,000 in March 2019 and $US300,000 in July 2019. Last year she had a number of foreign bank accounts with balances totalling more than dollars 1 million. Between 2007 and 2011 amounts of up to dollars 20 million were transferred to her from accounts linked to Epstein then moved again into other accounts held by an alleged accomplice.

    The detention memo added that since the indictment against Epstein was unsealed in July 2019, Ms Maxwell “stopped appearing in public entirely” and had been “hiding out in locations in New England”. The document continues: “It appears she made intentional efforts to avoid detection including moving locations at least twice.”

    Ms Maxwell was also alleged to have changed her phone number — registering it under the name G Max — and email address. She ordered packages for delivery under a false name. In December last year she made the cash purchase of a 63-hectare property in Bradford “through a carefully anonymised LLC (limited liability company)”.

    The indictment names four places where victims were “groomed and/or abused”, although it does not generally specify what happened where.

    The first was a seven-storey house on the Upper East Side of New York City owned by Epstein. It had previously housed a well-known private school.

    The circumstances in which Epstein came to own the house are somewhat mysterious. It was previously owned by Leslie Wexner, a billionaire mentor of Epstein, although he never lived there. He transferred the house to Epstein’s ownership, free of charge, in about 1996. In 2011 its ownership was transferred from a trust controlled by Mr Wexner and Epstein to a company in the US Virgin Islands controlled by Epstein. Last year the property was said to be worth $US56 million.

    Guests have described leopard print chairs, a sculpture of a naked African warrior in double life size and a picture of a woman holding an opium pipe while caressing a lion. There were photos on the walls of Bill Clinton, Woody Allen and Crown Prince M ohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia.

    The second was Epstein’s house at Palm Beach in southern Florida. He bought the property for $US 2.5 million in 1990. A search of the property after Epstein’s arrest in 2008 for procuring an underage girl for prostitution and soliciting a prostitute found framed nude photos, massage tables, bathroom soap shaped like genitalia and a fully equipped dentist’s chair.

    The third property was his ranch in Santa Fe, in New Mexico. On the 4050-hectare site is a 26,700 sq ft house, an aeroplane hangar and a landing strip. It was previously owned by Bruce King, a governor of the state.

    The fourth was Ms Maxwell’s home in London. At one stage she owned a mews house in Belgravia but it is unclear whether this is the property referred to in the indictment.

    VICTIM ONE: Recruited at age 14

    Three victims’ experiences are described in the indictment, although none of them is named.

    The first victim allegedly met Ms Maxwell when she was about 14. During multiple interactions at Epstein’s various homes, the indictment alleges, Ms Maxwell “groomed Minor Victim-1 to engage in sexual acts with Epstein through multiple means”.

    Ms Maxwell and Epstein allegedly took her to the cinema and on shopping trips. Ms Maxwell then began undressing in front of her, and was allegedly present when the girl undressed in front of Epstein. This, the prosecutors say, was an attempt to “normalise inappropriate and abusive conduct”.

    Within a year Epstein began sexually abusing the girl. Ms Maxwell was sometimes present and involved in the abuse, the indictment claims. “In particular,” the document alleges, Ms Maxwell “involved Minor Victim-1 in group sexualised massages of Epstein,” during which “[Ms] Maxwell and/or Minor Victim-1 would engage in sex acts with Epstein.” The alleged abuse took place at Epstein’s properties in New York and Florida.

    VICTIM TWO: Flown to New Mexico for Epstein

    The second girl met Ms Maxwell at least once in or around 1996 at Epstein’s property in New Mexico. At the time she was under 18. The girl “had flown into New Mexico from out of state at Epstein’s invitation for the purpose of being groomed for and/or subjected to acts of sexual abuse”.

    Ms Maxwell and Epstein took her to the cinema, and Ms Maxwell took her shopping. Ms Maxwell asked her about her school, classes and family, before allegedly beginning “her efforts to groom” the girl by, “among other things, providing an unsolicited massage to Minor Victim-2, during which Minor Victim-2 was topless”. Ms Maxwell is also alleged to have encouraged the girl to massage Epstein.

    VICTIM THREE: Groomed and befriended in London

    Ms Maxwell “groomed and befriended” the third underage girl in London between approximately 1994 and 1995, “during a period of time in which Maxwell knew that Minor Victim-3 was under the age of 18”. Ms Maxwell then allegedly introduced her to Epstein and arranged “multiple interactions” between them. During those interactions, Maxwell encouraged the girl to massage Epstein “knowing”, the indictment says, “that Epstein would engage in sex acts with Minor Victim-3 during those massages”.

    The girl did so, and he sexually abused her, the indictment claims.

    In April 2016 Ms Maxwell faced questions under oath in a deposition as part of a civil lawsuit. Asked whether Epstein had “a scheme to recruit underage girls for sexual massages”, she replied: “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

    Asked to list all the people under the age of 18 that she interacted with at any of his properties, she replied: “I’m not aware of anybody that I interacted with, other than obviously [the person who had brought the lawsuit] who was 17 at this point.”

    In addition, Ms Maxwell claimed that she did not recall whether Epstein possessed sex toys and said that she “wasn’t aware” that Epstein was “having sexual activities with anyone when I was with him other than myself”.

    She testified that she had “not given anyone a massage”, and specifically that she “never gave” the second victim in this indictment a massage. The indictment says that these statements were instances of “false testimony”.

    The Times

  109. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    A search of the property after Epstein’s arrest in 2008 … found framed nude photos, massage tables, bathroom soap shaped like genitalia and a fully equipped dentist’s chair.

    What a sick depraved bastard.

  110. cohenite

    This Maxwell thing is grist for the mill, the real issue are the names and whether there is any proof besides her say so.

  111. Boambee John

    Oh dear.
    That’s blasphemy.
    (But you forgot to mention the trouble he got into when he did go bush, and his dodgy BIL).

    Bin chicken still scratching around in discarded trash.

    As they do!

  112. Geriatric Mayfly

    This Maxwell thing is grist for the mill…

    There was a young lass from Aberystwyth

  113. It’s amazing that you could be bothered to write so much meaningless shit during a real crisis.

    Modesty demands that I point out that I didn’t write that article.
    Dr John Falzon did.
    I have, however, written in similar vein.

  114. Cassie of Sydney

    “Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3502554, posted on July 3, 2020 at 2:39 pm
    A search of the property after Epstein’s arrest in 2008 … found framed nude photos, massage tables, bathroom soap shaped like genitalia and a fully equipped dentist’s chair.

    What a sick depraved bastard.”

    Yes….and one of Epstein’s friends was Katherine Keating. It’ll be interesting to hear what Maxwell, if she lives long enough, says about Ms Keating.

  115. Farmer Gez

    Modesty demands that I point out that I didn’t write that article.

    I know. Still an ego driven virtue signalling pile of platitudes.

  116. Knuckle Dragger

    Plagiarism Bob, 11.45:

    ‘All this chatter’

    Was all a dissembling exercise to hide the lie you were caught in. Again.

    Degenerate pompous filthbot.

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    And yes Kev.

    Superb rolled up newspaper across the nose of 8th Danielle.

    The holder of a Coral Belt, I believe ($8.99 at mmadirect.com.au).

  118. egg_

    Bin chicken still scratching around in discarded trash.

    Hanging around the RSL dumpster in search of abuse.
    Sad.

  119. Johno:

    I voted through the week in Yass. I don’t really care who wins. The Lib candidate is a loon and the Labor candidate is the Labor candidate. The rest are window dressing or preference harvesters. Ricardo will have at least one vote anyway, nobody else will have heard of him,why would he bother?

    Let me repeat what I said a few days ago:
    Until the scattered remnants of the Right unite into one party, and put the nation ahead of their egos, we will continue to lose. It’s as simple as that.
    Or maybe I’m just looking for an opportunity to express my Cranky Old Fart emotional template.
    Meh…

  120. struth:

    No flu or cold is worth this and a real pandemic could actually occur and they still should not be given the power to do as they have done.

    The mood out there is that the goodwill governments had to get through this saga, is gone.
    They showed themselves to be incompetent, useless, ego driven people who if I had two rolls of toilet paper, I wouldn’t put them in charge of one.
    There was no planning even though we have a flu season every bloody year!
    The data collected has been so tainted by bureaucratic stupidity and arse covering as to be useless.
    I’d like to see a Royal Commission into the national preparedness for this completely foreseeable stuff up, but what would be the point?
    The people responsible for the chaos would be the people who investigate.
    Australia is entering a crisis period where we have no faith in our leadership, or even their ability to organise a pissup in a brewery!
    This mob couldn’t get a root standing in the doorway of a brothel with a corporate card in their hand.

  121. Arnost

    With respect to Ghislaine Maxwell – these are slap on the hand type charges. She didn’t rape them and 17 looks like 18 or whatever the age of consent is in the jurisdiction.

    She is a lose end that needs to be cleaned up. She KNOWS. And hence why the jokes about clintoncide.

    Epstein was not blackmailing the people who partied with him or flew out with him. He has/had photos and videos of them alright. But these he sold to parties that wanted leverage over them. Think how much money can be made in knowing what laws will be passed (or influence over them). Or what investigations can be dropped – or prosecuted with prejudice. A gravy train of insider trading! It is not the people in the photos that need protecting … it’s the people who bought the photos!

    And why I think that Ghislaine is at risk … It is highly probable that Robert Maxwell was a Mossad operative, and why Ghislaine has links to Israel (Ehud Barak was Epstein’s mate!) I’d say Mossad has the dirt on who bought the photos (other than them!!!) and probably why Gislaine was there a month or two back negotiating protection.

    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/ghislaine-maxwell-accused-of-helping-epstein-reportedly-hides-in-israel-613367

    Just a pity that Epstein didn’t hand over everything to Julian on a dead man switch. Oh – hang on … maybe that’s … ehmm … actually never mind.

  122. incoherent rambler

    Is it true that Maxwell has been placed on Clinton row?

    Will Maxwell be as surprised as Epstein was when he committed suicide?

  123. incoherent rambler

    I have photos of an past US president with his dick in a chicken.
    Should I go into hiding?

  124. Struth

    Lodger, I am not holding my breath about getting back to work.
    We will be the very last if at all.
    I’m 53 and never thought I could have had a second go at it but Australia’s population gets older and it’s my generation and sometimes older in the pubs and as you would know, the kids love “old skool” before they head to the doof doof club, but it’s getting harder to keep the old age out of an ageist business.
    I am starting to think by the time this ends, if it does, I’ll be too old then.

    The entertainment managers, well some have changed now, and I’m exactly the same as you, watching the gigs disappear off the booking calendar on the wall.
    Tonight was meant to be the Bayswater on the Foreshore of Hervey Bay for me.
    6 til ten
    Great hours for an old fart.

    I’ll just be staying home and smoking something in the smoker from off the BBQ Pit Boys youtube channel of American heart attack food and slugging down red wine!!
    It’s better than going to socialist controlled pubs.

    Oh and Numbers, what you copy and paste is not only drivel, but aren’t you embarrassed at how capitalism is always the problem and you can post some dribble where some virtue signalling sicko claims were all in this together, oh it’s all so beautiful, so humane, when a) nobody has a choice, it’s done by force, and b) BLM are not really part of the collective or are they ?
    10 000 in the streets, spreading your boogaloo flu, are they part of your beautiful collective, shitfabrains?

  125. Was all a dissembling exercise to hide the lie you were caught in. Again.

    And what “lie” was that, old mate – just so we all know…

  126. Carpe Jugulum

    I have photos of an past US president with his dick in a chicken.
    Should I go into hiding?

    Depends if you took the photo’s or not.

  127. cohenite

    A must read.

    High Court pairs with #MeToo
    Graham Hryce The Spectator Australia 4 July 2020
    The Dyson Heydon scandal has created a serious crisis for the High Court. A crisis is of its own making that has its origin in the Court’s unprecedented decision to deal with complaints made against former Justice Heydon last year by way of establishing an administrative inquiry into the allegations. The High Court has never established such an inquiry before and was unwise to do so.
    The inquiry made findings against Heydon – who refused to participate in its deliberations – and these findings were glowingly endorsed in a ‘Statement by the Hon. Susan Kiefel AC, Chief Justice of the High Court of Australia’ issued last week.
    The High Court was under no obligation to establish an inquiry. If Chief Justice Kiefel thought it necessary she could have asked the Morrison government to establish one. The High Court is not just another government department. It is the supreme judicial body in Australia and its legitimacy depends upon it being seen to be completely above politics.
    After the release of the Chief Justice’s statement, a media firestorm understandably broke loose. As a result, Heydon’s reputation has been irretrievably and permanently destroyed and the High Court now bears primary responsibility for this. The solicitors for some of the complainants have stated that they intend to bring civil proceedings against Heydon and the Commonwealth.
    The Attorney-General, Christian Porter, responded to the foreshadowed civil proceedings by pointing out the Commonwealth was not an appropriate defendant. That is so – the correct defendant would be the High Court, as constituted by the individual judges at the relevant times. The Director of the ACT DPP has referred the matter to the AFP for consideration as to whether criminal proceedings should be commenced against Heydon. Late last week the Fairfax press reported that the High Court had subsequently written to some one hundred former associates of the Court seeking details of sexual harassment they may have suffered whilst employed by the Court. It is not clear why this was done, or whether a further wide-ranging inquiry, perhaps into former judges other than Heydon, is underway. Whatever transpires in relation to any legal proceedings brought against Heydon, the High Court’s actions have created a serious crisis for the Court. For a number of reasons.
    First, it will he held responsible for all the consequences which flow from the Heydon affair. Second, the Court cannot possibly sit on any appeal brought in respect of any civil or criminal proceedings involving Heydon. This constitutes an abdication of jurisdiction by the Court which is completely unwarranted. Third, the High Court’s actions in relation to Heydon have opened up the possibility of former and current judges of the Court being sued as well as having their reputations destroyed. This can only create legal chaos, and seriously diminish the standing and reputation of the High Court itself and the legal system in general. Fourth, the High Court has now irreversibly entered the realm of political controversy.
    As Owen Dixon, Australia’s greatest jurist, never tired of pointing out, judges in order to preserve the legitimacy and authority of the Court and the entire legal system must be seen to be completely above politics. That is why Dixon refused to allow High Court judges to act as Royal Commissioners. Yet the current High Court has established its own administrative inquiry and endorsed its findings in a highly charged political context.
    The High Court and the #MeToo movement make a strange pairing, given the movement’s contempt for the legal system and principles of individual rights and due process. Furthermore, the #MeToo movement’s primary aim is not justice for alleged victims, but rather the annihilation of alleged transgressors and anyone associated with them. The movement has already dragged former High Court judges Gleeson and McHugh and NSW Supreme Court judge Parker into the scandal. More former and current judges will no doubt be implicated, and their reputations tarnished as the attack on Heydon inevitably gathers pace and widens.
    In aligning itself with the #MeToo movement, the High Court has also bound itself to the outcome of any legal proceedings brought against Heydon. This is a particularly dangerous position to be in. As a number of media organisations who have enthusiastically embraced the #MeToo cause have found out to their cost, #MeToo cases very often fail in court.
    If readers think that the views expressed above are fanciful, I invite them to read an article by Pru Goward titled ‘Mr Heydon, the High Court’s judgment is a moral one’ published recently in the Sydney Morning Herald.
    Ms Goward is a #MeToo champion of substance, and no radical leftie. She is a former Sex Discrimination Commissioner and minister in a NSW Liberal government. She heartily approves of the fact that ‘the full bench of Australia’s supreme law making body’ has delivered a ‘moral judgment’ – a hitherto unknown function of the Court. Ms Goward criticises Heydon for disputing the inquiry findings and pontificates that, ‘The justices of the High Court must be fuming with rage at this undermining of their authority and integrity by one of their former colleagues. On behalf of democracy, so should we be fuming’. And the great defender of democracy, and apparent intimate of the now fuming High Court judges, does not stop there. She goes on to belittle Heydon’s solicitors, who did nothing more than issue a statement on their client’s behalf after the Chief Justice issued her statement. Goward describes them as ‘little known’, which is simply not true. She then says: ‘Maybe they don’t expect to appear much before the High Court over the next 10 or 20 years and get a win’.
    The unequivocal suggestion here is that the now morally charged High Court will rule against Heydon’s lawyers in any case in which they act before the High Court for the next 20 years. What a wonderful endorsement of the judicial integrity of the High Court by an enthusiastic supporter of its newly discovered moral activism. With friends like Ms Goward, the High Court doesn’t need any enemies.
    No doubt the current High Court judges will be horrified by Ms Goward’s appalling slur on them – but the High Court cannot say so. That, of course, is precisely why the Court should never have placed itself in the position that it now finds itself in.
    The High Court has foolishly sown the wind, and unfortunately it will now have to reap the whirlwind.

    This CJ has singlehandedly torn down the separation of powers; she is either a complete idiot or has done this deliberately.

  128. Carpe Jugulum

    Degenerate pompous filthbot.

    I’m pinching that

  129. cohenite

    And what “lie” was that, old mate – just so we all know…

    Everything you write is a lie, a fraud and really stupid. No one gives a fuck.

  130. caveman

    AFL slipping away into irrelevance ,having to disperse teams interstate, they must hate it that Vic ain’t the sporting capital of Oz.
    NSW is the go to State for sport, Valandys has done well with the rule changes in NRL. He may even combine horse racing and rugby league , man against horse.

  131. Cassie of Sydney

    “Degenerate pompous filthbot.”

    Gosh…I was accused earlier of a “hate-filled diatribe” for lesser invective towards the Toowoomba moron!

  132. Cassie:

    Because there is a double standard…it happened here in NSW…the stench of corruption that permeated through the whole Carr/Iemma/Rees/Keneally/Obeid years…a total of sixteen years….was allowed to go on for years without any ICAC interest or intervention…..however O’Farrell lost his job due to a bottle of wine.

    …and this will continue until the Right realise the Left has enabled a secondary government via the bureaucracy. Any incoming government must purge the upper levels of this secondary parliament.
    There is no other way.
    We live in a Dictatorship of the Bureaucracy.

  133. Cassie of Sydney

    “We live in a Dictatorship of the Bureaucracy.”

    Well said WS.

  134. zyconoclast

    Ms Goward is a #MeToo champion of substance, and no radical leftie. She is a former Sex Discrimination Commissioner and minister in a NSW Liberal government. She heartily approves of the fact that ‘the full bench of Australia’s supreme law making body’ has delivered a ‘moral judgment’ – a hitherto unknown function of the Court. Ms Goward criticises Heydon for disputing the inquiry findings and pontificates that, ‘The justices of the High Court must be fuming with rage at this undermining of their authority and integrity by one of their former colleagues. On behalf of democracy, so should we be fuming’. And the great defender of democracy, and apparent intimate of the now fuming High Court judges, does not stop there. She goes on to belittle Heydon’s solicitors, who did nothing more than issue a statement on their client’s behalf after the Chief Justice issued her statement. Goward describes them as ‘little known’, which is simply not true. She then says: ‘Maybe they don’t expect to appear much before the High Court over the next 10 or 20 years and get a win’.

    Good to see that she is not a radical leftie

  135. Struth

    It is our shared task to ensure that the deeply human struggle against humiliation, far from being over, is waged systematically and strategically.

    Why, you should be humiliated at every turn.

    It is our collective responsibility, all of us who are on the side of the many in defiance of the narrow interests of the few, to fight alongside the young people who are so disrespected by late capitalism,

    Um, capitalism is free trade and commerce, it isn’t a human being, it has no emotions and can therefore disrespect nobody.
    Only a fucking moron in fairy land assigns human feelings to inanimate objects or practices.
    It’s even running late, FFS.

    The narrow interests of the few are the noisy minority…..your lot.
    Screaming spoilt brats, your lot.
    You’re godless and insane because of it.

    which appears to have never learned that we cannot be fully human while we deny the humanity of others on the basis of class, gender, race, disability, age or sexuality; and that knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing is the recipe for social pain rather than social progress.

    I think you are a very poor troll, a very poor one.
    Your mate is a fucking dribbling cretin.

    Sometimes, it seems, it is only when we face a social emergency that we engage more deeply and collectively in emergence. And as we unveil the concealed we change, even little by little, the unjust way of things.

    Give the boy a hanky, and some sorbent.

    You guys don’t care about the bullshit level, just the emotional grandstanding.

    You’d recite the alphabet with a tear in your eye just for the virtue signalling.

  136. cohenite

    We live in a Dictatorship of the Bureaucracy.

    Yep. The faceless men and women, most of them swamp fuckers.

  137. Arnost

    It is interesting to see the amount of media coverage given to the two families “protecting” themselves and the immediate confirmation that they will be charged by the respective DAs.

    The Worstenburgs have been charged and face 4 years in jail
    https://www.theoaklandpress.com/news/copscourts/couple-charged-with-felonious-assault-in-racially-charged-gun-incident-in-orion-townshlp/article_9c7ff9ee-bc84-11ea-a8a3-8b4fbc897f5c.html

    And the Mccloskeys whilst not charged are being investigated as the DA has overruled the police
    http://www.stlamerican.com/news/local_news/lawyers-who-confronted-protestors-with-guns-are-being-investigated/article_899d84c2-ba63-11ea-a690-5b104ac5be05.html

    None of the violent actions by ANTIFA activists or BLM make headline news. In both the above cases there was a response to a real threat and no violence. But this makes headlines!

    It is a scary portent of the future. We have the police rank and file – mostly patriotic with a large % of ex military service men – being called to be disarmed and disbanded. We have those with (legal) arms being vilified. Watch this space when the Democriters win power. As the 2nd amendment rights are eroded and the violence escalates, people will feel more and more threatened. And there will come a spark and vigilantes will take action… The boog is not far away!

  138. cohenite

    The Worstenburgs have been charged and face 4 years in jail
    https://www.theoaklandpress.com/news/copscourts/couple-charged-with-felonious-assault-in-racially-charged-gun-incident-in-orion-townshlp/article_9c7ff9ee-bc84-11ea-a8a3-8b4fbc897f5c.html
    And the Mccloskeys whilst not charged are being investigated as the DA has overruled the police
    http://www.stlamerican.com/news/local_news/lawyers-who-confronted-protestors-with-guns-are-being-investigated/article_899d84c2-ba63-11ea-a690-5b104ac5be05.html
    None of the violent actions by ANTIFA activists or BLM make headline news. In both the above cases there was a response to a real threat and no violence. But this makes headlines!

    That is fucked; all those guns were legally owned and used consistently with the 2nd amendment; but the process will be the punishment.

    Anyone in the US who votes demorat at the next election is either stupid or an enemy of democracy.

  139. H B Bear

    I wonder if KRuddy’s name is even on the new Noosa pad?

    How embarrassing to be a dependent in your 50s.

  140. rickw

    It is interesting to see the amount of media coverage given to the two families “protecting” themselves and the immediate confirmation that they will be charged by the respective DAs.

    It would seem that a way to fix a lot of this shit would be to start shooting mayors and da’s.

    Root of most of the current issues outside of BLM and Antifa themselves.

  141. Eyrie

    rickw, first lathe you recommended is bought. Second one was cheaper slightly but no stock.

    Only small jobs to do that need metal not 3D printed from polycarbonate.

    If you have the CAD drawing of the new plastic gear you could send me that in an email and I’ll 3D print from polycarbonate if that material is suitable. Sinc can give you my email address.

  142. Eyrie

    Sinc, oh great Doomlord, I beseech thee to give rickw my email address.

  143. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob (aka Lying Dog-Faced Blanket Soldier);

    About how a bloke with 13 years in got his nickname. Made it up, attempted to portray knowledge that you didn’t. And you only know it now because you were corrected by your betters.

    Fabricated. Concocted. Falsified. Lied.

    If only you’d got some time up. Mouthy lid.

  144. areff

    Fabricated. Concocted. Falsified. Lied.

    They’re the nicer attributes of his character

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I write for an audience.’

    ‘I’ll call it what I like.’

    ‘I couldn’t be bothered to be consistent.’

    ‘I’m no victim.’

    ‘I forget which number rifle section I was in. My memory is hazy.’

    ‘I couldn’t care less about what happens in the land of the shooting spree.’

  146. Lodger from Oz

    There’s hope for us yet, Struth – Ringo’s about to turn 80! Just gotta pray our more “mature” age demographic haven’t all karked it by the time the fur king gummint eventually releases us.

  147. cohenite

    Rankings of all US states in terms of ease of gun ownership:

    https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/best-states-for-gun-owners/369075

    Michigan where the nice lady who does know how to handle a gun was charged ranks 26th.

    I still can’t believe that: the couple were hassled by the blacks who were proactive, standing behind their car and abusing them and the white couple warned them off and they are charged. Trump carried Michigan in 2016 but its generally a demorat state. I really hope shit likes this carries it back to Trump.

  148. Arnost

    The root of the problem is endemic corruption – even if it is just power itself. A major clean out in the western world is in order. I had hopes that Trump would start the process. But I’m guessing that he’s been turned… it is a massively target rich environment and nothing! There was a DC DA on Tucker who bragged that they had a 100 or so BOTH anarchists AND white supremacists in their sights. Whoopee do.

    I keep hoping – but I fear that when the conservatives finally go out to protest: Look at Hong Kong on how that will go down.

  149. Mitch M.

    New treatment approach for Alzheimer’s disease

    The misfolded protein, known to be involved in Alzheimer’s disease, called beta amyloid, was injected into the guts of mice and travelled to the “gut-brain” (the nervous system in our gut),and alsoto the brain.

    This reminds me of a another animal study which found simply be stripping amyloid from the blood reduced the total loading in the brain. Amyloid isn’t just in the brain, many cells can produce it. The interesting implication of the previous study is that not only can amyloid in the blood enter the brain but by reducing the total load in the blood amyloid will diffuse from the brain to the blood, suggestive a passive transport rather than an active transport of amyloid.

    Another reason to give blood. Actually giving plasma might be better because that can be done more frequently. There was a recent study that found simply taking plasma from the animals reduced inflammation. It was a follow up study on those where the blood of young and old animals was swapped. Most focused on the improvement in the old animals but equally important was the deterioration in the young animals; the implication being that old animals are producing inflammatory markers at a much higher rate than the young animals.

    The caveat on this issue is the controversy surrounding the role of amyloid with many preferring the tau hypothesis but I don’t think it is either or, amyloid paves the way for tau phosphorylation but in itself is not that pathological unless it induces an inflammatory response in microglia.

  150. H B Bear

    Mathias Cormann set to quit after calling Scott Morrison ‘control freak’

    The average IQ of the cabinet is about to dip below 3 figures.

    I wonder who will follow him? Interesting timing on the eve of a by-election.

  151. William the Conjuror

    he’s just a politician so I’m not defending Newman

    Followed by:

    Newman served in PNG, the Solomon Islands, West Germany and Hawaii and was involved in civil design and construction projects as well as combat engineering tasks. He also served in 2nd Combat Engineer Regiment. All that’s reasonable service for 13 years at a time when we had no troops deployed overseas.

    I knew him when he was a little tacker when his father was my CO and then later in parliament. Newman’s mother also served as a Senator. The whole family have contributed to the country.

    Have you?

    Well invested in the “little tacker” there, Kev. Hardly a defence at all. … sarc/

    So, to answer your question. Yes, I and my family have contributed much to this country. Some 50 years of service of benefit to the communities we have lived in, all of it voluntary and unpaid. Not one minute of it paid from the public purse, and none of it occupying party seats among the unrepresentative swill in Canberra or Tasmania or Queensland.

  152. Geriatric Mayfly

    Another one down. As long as they don’t publish a photograph of him it will all blow over.

    A black man was shot a killed by a Wisconsin police officer Thursday after authorities say he chased a woman with a pair of knives and then advanced on the officer.Family members of Kevan Ruffin, 32, said he had psychiatric issues but believe his race played a role in the shooting.

  153. rickw

    rickw, first lathe you recommended is bought. Second one was cheaper slightly but no stock.

    Only small jobs to do that need metal not 3D printed from polycarbonate.

    If you have the CAD drawing of the new plastic gear you could send me that in an email and I’ll 3D print from polycarbonate if that material is suitable. Sinc can give you my email address.

    Ok! I’ll send you the .STL files and installation instructions for the gear. A small shaft needs to be machined up. The gear should ideally have an 8mm bush in it (10mm OD). I’ll send STL’s for both types. You can start with bush free.

  154. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mitch M.
    #3502596, posted on July 3, 2020 at 4:35 pm
    Mathias Cormann set to quit after calling Scott Morrison ‘control freak’

    The average IQ of the cabinet is about to dip below 3 figures.”

    Agree….however I think Cormann’s retirement has been on the cards for a while. Maiden is just engaging in “hyperbole”. Didn’t Maiden have to resign a few years ago…weren’t there some complaints about her?

  155. amortiser

    I knew him when he was a little tacker when his father was my CO and then later in parliament. Newman’s mother also served as a Senator. The whole family have contributed to the country.

    The same Senator who accused me of wanting children to starve when I questioned the social and fiscal failure of Single Parents Benefit.

    The oft used tactic to silence dissent. Her’s was not a great contribution to the country.

  156. Gilas

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3502449, posted on July 3, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    A few people here the other day scolded some of us for challenging the serial pervert/liar and racist from Toowoomba…..various people asked that we “ignore” the serial pervert/liar and racist….with the “hope” that he might quietly disappear. Not working is it? He is actually more emboldened.

    And why do you care?

    Stepping on a turd allows one to soil one’s shoe/s, without clearing said faecal extrusion and promoting the spread of excrement around the place.

    But don’t worry, just carry on.

  157. Lodger from Oz

    Mitch M.
    #3502596, posted on July 3, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Mathias Cormann set to quit after calling Scott Morrison ‘control freak’

    From the link:
    “wibble, wobble, wibble, wobble”
    Can’t argue with his description of Shorten either.

  158. stackja

    GM – Police lives matter.
    Where were the social workers who claim to help with mental health?

  159. areff

    Didn’t Maiden have to resign a few years ago

    Abrasive personality didn’t sit well with the underlings at Sky. The door didn’t hit her on the way out

  160. Barry

    Why should the HC be immune from the destruction wrought by bringing sex into institutions.

    It was preordained that hysteria (in the uterine sense) would rear its ugly head as soon as the possessors of said wombs were placed as tokens on the bench.

    Despite men’s supposed preoccupation with sex, they rarely allow it to intrude into the institutions they create. Women, though, show their subservience to sexual imperatives, through their inability to view any issue through a lens other than one tinted by sex.

    It’s men’s fault, though, for it is they who have failed to defend their creations against attack from the inside. Nay, they have encouraged it.

  161. stackja

    Gilas – I use scrolling. Others don’t.

  162. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Some 50 years of service of benefit to the communities we have lived in’

    Define ‘benefit’.

    A musty shop in an arcade selling human skin lampshades sort of qualifies, but not really.

    I’d buy a Ricky Slater one though.

  163. Cassie of Sydney

    “And why do you care?”

    Because I care about how the left are destroying our country and the west before our eyes…with their lies and their fabrications.

    And why do you care if people choose to respond to him or call out the troll out for his never ending nonsense? Ignoring and “not caring” has really served those on the right well….hasn’t it? You seem to encapsulate what’s wrong with the right…..don’t want to get your hands dirty….it is all so undignified. No wonder we now have 52 genders…no wonder we have footballers kneeling down to an anti-Semitic terrorist organisation. No wonder we have monuments of Captain Cook being daubed with graffiti. Pushing back is just so undignified!

  164. cohenite

    The McCloskeys, the couple who protected their home in St Louis in Missouri, have been threatened by another gang and have been refused police support. The governor of Missouri is a GOP who could send deputies but won’t because he is this rino rat.

    No doubt the troll will be rushing to defend them since he doesn’t believe people should be able to defend themselves.

  165. Arnost

    The husband in the wuestenberg incident has now lost his job at Oakland University.

    https://twitter.com/oaklandu/status/1278809760490553345

    Pregnant wife, no job and (the inevitable) hate mail for the rest of life. Happy days.

    The lesson in this: Don’t try to de-escalate, let alone stand your ground against incitement. You will lose. And lose BIG. Just get on your knees, abjectly apologise for your sins unto the nth generation and pray (that they’ll just accept you kissing their feet).

  166. MemoryFault

    Stepping on a turd allows one to soil one’s shoe/s, without clearing said faecal extrusion and promoting the spread of excrement around the place.

    Brilliant, Gilas.
    Should be a Liberty Quote.

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Some 50 years of service of benefit to the communities we have lived in’

    Being on the work gang, in gaol, doesn’t count.

  168. cohenite

    Mitch M.
    #3502596, posted on July 3, 2020 at 4:35 pm
    Mathias Cormann set to quit after calling Scott Morrison ‘control freak’
    The average IQ of the cabinet is about to dip below 3 figures.

    So Mathias didn’t call scomo a control freak, turdball said he did and since turdball is the greatest lying bastard ever to be PM that accusation has zero credibility and one wonders why the author of the shit piece would say it.

  169. Fisky

    This seems to me extremely unwise. Taking a swing at Putin WTF??

    Ketulkumar Parmar

    @Ketulkumar2020
    ·
    22h

    #CCP regime now dares #Russia over territorial dispute & claims Russian territory of #Vladivostok belongs to #China

    Promotes that Russians invaded Chinese territory in 1860. This comes after #PLA intrusion into #India occupied #Nepal villages.

  170. Tintarella di Luna

    Chris Kenny “Kevin Rudd has a carbon footprint the size of his ego” — beautiful.

  171. Barry:

    Interesting that Dan has not denied that nasal swabs taken for Covid19 testing are also being sequenced for the DNA of the test subject.

    Say what?
    If the bastards are doing this, it would be highly illegal.
    We need to see the consent forms.

  172. cohenite

    Because I care about how the left are destroying our country and the west before our eyes…with their lies and their fabrications.

    Good for you; and we all have to do our little bit even if it is merely calling out a lying piece of shit who infests this blog.

  173. Johno

    Cormann did not call Morrison a control freak. That was Turnbull in his horrible little unread book.

  174. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tintarella di Luna
    #3502625, posted on July 3, 2020 at 5:12 pm
    Chris Kenny “Kevin Rudd has a carbon footprint the size of his ego” — beautiful.”

    Sublime.

  175. MemoryFault

    And why do you care if people choose to respond to him or call out the troll out for his never ending nonsense? Ignoring and “not caring” has really served those on the right well….hasn’t it?

    Good evening Cassie.
    Because you are conflating two entirely separate issues. Ignoring Numbers has nothing to do with challenging any brand of politics. Numbers is not here to promote any point of view, Left or Right.

    Numbers is here solely to get the attention he craves in his empty life. If all that was available was a blog on gardening, Numbers would be posting contrarian views on repotting tulip bulbs.

  176. Cassie of Sydney

    “Johno
    #3502629, posted on July 3, 2020 at 5:16 pm
    Cormann did not call Morrison a control freak. That was Turnbull in his horrible little unread book.”

    This encapsulates how awful the media are.

  177. Cassie of Sydney

    “Numbers is not here to promote any point of view, Left or Right.”

    Does that mean he’s a libertarian?

  178. You just went full Vietnam, Catallaxians.

    You NEVER go full Vietnam.

  179. MemoryFault

    Senator Cormann, Australia’s longest serving Finance Minister is set to retire from politics by the end of this year, some time after the October 6 federal budget.

    Why do I get the distinct feeling of another Clayton’s Budget coming up, followed immediately by the announcement of an election, a la 206 and 2019?

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If all that was available was a blog on gardening, Numbers would be posting contrarian views on repotting tulip bulbs.

    Pay that one.

  181. Idea for a website.

    We call it Vietnam War dot tee vee and it gets taken over by monomaniacal lunatics who can’t shut up about Austrian school economics and the importance of civil liberties being upheld by constitutional law.

  182. Cassie of Sydney

    “If all that was available was a blog on gardening, Numbers would be posting contrarian views on repotting tulip bulbs.”

    Ten out of ten MF.

  183. MemoryFault

    Does that mean he’s a libertarian?

    No, Cassie.
    But I’m no longer prepared to discuss Libertarian Philosophy with people who can’t even be bothered reading the simple Manual of Instructions. It only takes half an hour.

    To the best of knowledge, in eight years only Calli has ever done so.

  184. Cassie of Sydney

    “No, Cassie.
    But I’m no longer prepared to discuss Libertarian Philosophy with people who can’t even be bothered reading the simple Manual of Instructions. It only takes half an hour.”

    Now now…I was joking….sometimes this place needs some humour!

    Oh and I know a lot about Libertarian philosophy!

  185. About how a bloke with 13 years in got his nickname. Made it up, attempted to portray knowledge that you didn’t. And you only know it now because you were corrected by your betters.

    If you read what I posted, you ignorant lout, you’ll note that I offered no explanation as to how he got his nickname, just that he had it and it was conferred in the army. Both are facts.
    Someone else, that you have abused roundly, provided an explanation.
    You remind me of a disturbed child I taught in the eighties.
    If something displeased him, he’d lash out at the nearest kid, irrespective of whether that kid had anything to do with whatever irked him.
    He’d been shockingly abused by his stepfather as a toddler.

  186. DrBeauGan

    Because I care about how the left are destroying our country and the west before our eyes…with their lies and their fabrications.

    Good for you; and we all have to do our little bit even if it is merely calling out a lying piece of shit who infests this blog.

    The problem isn’t that people won’t fight against the destruction of the West. The problems is people who believe that abusing a daft old troll.is fighting back.

  187. rickw

    This seems to me extremely unwise. Taking a swing at Putin WTF??

    Xi Ping is Hitler 2.0, but like a lot of upgrades these days, even worse than the original.

    Instead of starting wars on two fronts, now working feverishly to start wars on 8 fronts.

  188. Frank

    132andBush
    #3502448, posted on July 3, 2020 at 12:08 pm

    I see what you did there. She’s not that big is she.

  189. calli

    And Instead of starting wars on two fronts, now working feverishly to start wars on 8 fronts.

    Which is curious. What on earth is going on in China to cause him to course so many squirrels?

  190. Cassie of Sydney

    Bill Thompson uploaded this a short time ago..

  191. Gilas

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3502617, posted on July 3, 2020 at 5:04 pm

    “And why do you care?”

    Because I care about how the left are destroying our country and the west before our eyes…with their lies and their fabrications.

    Yes… and… ?

    Wasting time rebutting idiocies on blogs will have exactly ZERO impact in defeating leftards and the Evil Socio-Communist Left.

    In the same OT I also mentioned that direct action was what is needed.
    I am doing my modest (still confidential) bit in the real World, outside of this blog.

    And you?

  192. MemoryFault

    Now now…I was joking….sometimes this place needs some humour!

    My apologies Cassie.
    I just got home from the doc’s and at best the news was somewhat less than I was hoping to hear.
    So please excuse my less than jovial mood.

    Probably best if I have some dinner then go grump in the corner while I watch a movie or something.

  193. You NEVER go full Vietnam.

    Stimpy is right, natch, it IS Australia’s leading Viet Minh blog.
    FFS
    A shit war we lost in the 60s?
    Get over it, xunts

  194. I want srr to be reinstated, with full reparations.
    Hold them to they own Standard
    H/t Hillary Clint…Alinsky

  195. stackja

    I gather the angry private is still here.
    Scrolling, scrolling…

  196. Cassie of Sydney

    “My apologies Cassie.
    I just got home from the doc’s and at best the news was somewhat less than I was hoping to hear.
    So please excuse my less than jovial mood.”

    Nothing to apologise for. Go and have a nice glass of vino!

  197. I’ve stated it before here.
    If Putin was up for re-election,
    Would you vote for him?
    Lol
    #FkYeah

  198. Fisky:

    #CCP regime now dares #Russia over territorial dispute & claims Russian territory of #Vladivostok belongs to #China
    Promotes that Russians invaded Chinese territory in 1860. This comes after #PLA intrusion into #India occupied #Nepal villages.

    I wonder how well the Russkis will go without Lend Lease this time?

  199. Cassie of Sydney

    “I am doing my modest (still confidential) bit in the real World, outside of this blog.

    And you?”

    I do my bit…actually I do quite a lot. And I know others here who also do their bit in the real world.

  200. egg_

    Despite men’s supposed preoccupation with sex, they rarely allow it to intrude into the institutions they create. Women, though, show their subservience to sexual imperatives, through their inability to view any issue through a lens other than one tinted by sex.

    There are numpties on this site who deny the existence of predatory, narcissistic women – they must have led a sheltered life/head up @rse/fugly/in denial or all of the above.

  201. Gilas

    DrBeauGan
    #3502644, posted on July 3, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    The problem isn’t that people won’t fight against the destruction of the West. The problems is people who believe that abusing a daft old troll.is fighting back.

    Fact-check: True

  202. Cassie of Sydney

    Oh well..in Portland they’re finished with statues of humans…so now they’re setting fire to statues of…

    “Because of racism, Black Lives Matter protesters set fire to an elk statue:

    A 120-year-old statue of an elk has been removed from downtown Portland after protesters lit a fire that damaged its base Wednesday night.”

    From Tim Blair’s blog.

  203. MemoryFault

    Which is curious. What on earth is going on in China to cause him to course so many squirrels?

    No mystery, Calli.
    China is creating the “need” to move troops to its borders as part of battening down the hatches in the face of the coming calamities. Much as Trump is attempting, but without the distraction of having to deal with Deep State sabotage.

  204. egg_

    The problem isn’t that people won’t fight against the destruction of the West. The problems is people who believe that abusing a daft old troll.is fighting back.

    Per IT, at least, the Leftoid trolls give us an idea of the Leftoid daily talking points and an idea of their agenda.
    IMHO the Cat is widely read by the MSM* and the blogosphere, so robust debate will air the Centre Right view.

    *Micallef’s writers, in particular.

  205. Arnost

    Oh well..in Portland they’re finished with statues of humans…so now they’re setting fire to statues of…

    The pioneers?

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1278961118816305152

  206. areff

    If the bastards are doing this, it would be highly illegal.

    This is Victoria. Nothing Dan does is illegal. He has a bought and paid for police “service” to press the point with anyone who disagrees.

  207. Eyrie

    rickw, thanks. looking forward to getting the file. I asked Sinc above to give you my email address.
    Is there a way to contact him direct?

  208. calli

    Apparently The Diseased are hiding out in car boots in order to cross the Queensland border.

    Desperate times.

  209. Struth

    The problem isn’t that people won’t fight against the destruction of the West. The problems is people who believe that abusing a daft old troll.is fighting back.

    Fact-check: True

    There is a point you guys seem to miss in all this.
    Lurkers.
    Should you not make it amusing for them?
    Secondly, whatever you want to say about Numbers he is your typical lefty.
    If he had a brain he’d be dangerous but he just regurgitates lefty memes and lies.
    Now we know we are not going to change his mind, because it would be like trying to piss in the corner of a round room.
    He is irrelevant but he does serve a purpose for us.
    Those slap downs we give him daily, for those lurkers that take our arguments and facts out into the real world , we do with the help of ol’ shitfabrains.
    We met a lurker just today that decided to speak up.
    They are out there.
    They deserve entertainment.

  210. Struth – you know.
    Good to see you again, comrade
    Hehe
    #raisetheBlackFlag
    Ya’ll thought the reconquista would be clean&easy?
    Ahahahahaha
    Get ready.
    Or we Done

  211. Bruce of Newcastle

    Is there a way to contact him direct?

    See the Cat “about” tab Eyrie.

  212. cohenite

    The problems is people who believe that abusing a daft old troll.is fighting back.

    Now, doc I have never abused you.

    I am doing my modest (still confidential) bit in the real World, outside of this blog.

    Give us a few clues: targeted assassinations; dying all pirate pete’s bandanas mauve; protesting outside of adam bandt’s office

  213. egg_

    Senator Cormann, Australia’s longest serving Finance Minister is set to retire from politics by the end of this year, some time after the October 6 federal budget.

    Why do I get the distinct feeling of another Clayton’s Budget coming up, followed immediately by the announcement of an election, a la 206 and 2019?

    A shuffling of the deck chairs, post the EM by election?

  214. Knuckle Dragger

    Lah – high- a – bility Bob:

    No. No, no and no. As they say in the classics – y’all ready for this?

    THIS is the start of what you said just now. I’ll get to the end bit in a minute.

    ‘If you read what I posted, you ignorant lout, you’ll note that I offered no explanation as to how he got his nickname, just that he had it and it was conferred in the army. Both are facts.’

    Sorry Doctor Pompous, but that’s not a fact at all. THIS is what you ejected at 7.21 p.m. yesterday:

    ‘I doubt that the diggers who served under him would agree.
    They nicknamed him “Noddy”.’

    None of those ‘diggers who served under him’ would have been at RMC WITH Newman AT THE TIME, because as the man’s family friend and someone who actually knows a shit tin more than you pretend to know said – he got his moniker at RMC. The ‘diggers’ didn’t nickname him anything.

    And although I appreciate the positive aspects of being compared to a child abuse survivor*, it really does seem to me that you do this – which, you have to admit, you’ve done before – whenever there is absolutely no escape than to admit your bullshit.

    The last time of note was back in the great days of ‘lock and load’, where you accused everyone of being retarded (booo) followed by the old chestnut:

    ‘I’ll call it what I like’.

    Degenerate, retarded, pompous dishonest fradululent lying filthbot.

    *You haven’t named the poor kid you used to try and make a point. You do it with other people. Just sayin’.

  215. bought and paid for police “service” to press the point with anyone who disagrees.
    Yep.
    Watch the proof in my Mother’s Day clips.
    It’s no joke down here in Oblast49

  216. Zyconoclast

    Any one want to call her Karen?

    The Worstenburgs have been charged and face 4 years in jail
    https://www.theoaklandpress.com/news/copscourts/couple-charged-with-felonious-assault-in-racially-charged-gun-incident-in-orion-townshlp/article_9c7ff9ee-bc84-11ea-a8a3-8b4fbc897f5c.html

    In case it has not been posted, here is a video showing the full confrontation.
    Watch from 4:56 to 8:44

  217. Struth

    Tailgunner, you are at the epicentre of the totalitarian take over.
    Now I’m not suggesting you bomb anything………………………….

  218. Maj

    Coronavirus Victoria: Massive number of people refusing tests in Broadmeadows and Keilor Downs

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has revealed a whopping 928 people have refused a coronavirus test in two Melbourne hot spots.

    Australians are being implored to get tested for coronavirus but it seems hundreds of Victorians don’t want to follow advice.

    Premier Daniel Andrews this afternoon revealed 928 people refused to be tested in two Melbourne hot spots.

    Mr Andrews first thanked those who had taken part in testing and the “army of people” taking the swabs.

    “But I do feel obliged to inform you that in Broadmeadows and Keilor Downs alone some 928 people refused to be tested,” he said.

    928 free men and women who will not ordered around by government.

  219. Dr Faustus

    What on earth is going on in China to cause him to course so many squirrels?

    Doesn’t look like China is actually looking for 8 small wars – just a distraction from the economic and social unrest caused by COVID and the concentration of wealth and prosperity in the south of the country.

    The CPC is well aware what a revolution would mean for the ruling elites.

  220. Fk it, when I can fly, I’m going to Ukraine.
    For a babes&war stories.
    I’m going to hang with the Azoz Battalion.
    Filmed it, natch.
    #journalism
    #monty,getinhere

  221. Mater

    So, to answer your question. Yes, I and my family have contributed much to this country. Some 50 years of service of benefit to the communities we have lived in, all of it voluntary and unpaid. Not one minute of it paid from the public purse, and none of it occupying party seats among the unrepresentative swill in Canberra or Tasmania or Queensland.

    So when, where and if you saw fit. At your own pace, in a safe and comfortable environment.
    None of it at the absolute pleasure of her majesty, at any hour of the day or night, in dangerous, dirty and uncomfortable environments, under the additional restrictions of the DFDA, with absolutely no recourse or choice.

    To partially quote Bob:
    Criticism from a “specific cohort of a gilded generation who define “service” as what you get at MacDonalds”.

    Dill.

  222. Cassie of Sydney

    Struth…I’m very glad you’re back here….you were missed.

  223. Knuckle Dragger

    Struth:

    ‘There is a point you guys seem to miss in all this.
    Lurkers.’

    Preach it.

    Can I get an amen? Old Yeller? The men’s group are on board!

  224. MemoryFault

    Those slap downs we give him daily, for those lurkers that take our arguments and facts out into the real world , we do with the help of ol’ shitfabrains.

    Good evening Struth.
    What makes you think those “lurkers” (and I know a few of them) don’t do what the intelligent half of the regular readers already do?

    After all, that is why God gave us a scroll wheel.

  225. Ghosts of Tobruk will be our paramilitary.
    Keith Miller on every school hall.
    Straya
    Don’t Fight?
    Never Win!

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    Time for a handle change. Maybe. Not an additional one, just changing my usual one.

    In honour of lifelong lying scaredy cats, I might go with Ignorant Lout.

  227. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ghosts of Tobruk will be our paramilitary.
    Keith Miller on every school hall.
    Straya
    Don’t Fight?
    Never Win!”

    That’s right.

  228. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I and my family have contributed much to this country. Some 50 years of service’

    Terrible lawyers, if Danielle’s performance during Battherham’s eventual release and admission to the Millionaire’s Club is any guide.

    Danielle Denuto.

  229. Don’t think I haven’t thunk about it, struth.
    But I really need a compliant chemist, Breaking Bad- style, to school a young Padawan in the essential points in not blowing oneslf up prematurely.

  230. Frank

    The CPC is well aware what a revolution would mean for the ruling elites.

    Where would the average CCP crony go if it came to it. It’s not as if there are lot of countries brimming with goodwill that want to take them in.

  231. Knuckle Dragger

    Just to raise the tone a bit, I think the joint would be a poorer place without Liability Bob’s fractured fairytales.

    Seriously, the bloke’s got more stories than Forrest Gump.

  232. calli

    Something about the girl with the gun. Is she pregnant? Her body language suggests it.

    Jumping in front of cars is an old PNG compensation trick. They were trying to make something happen. The possibility of one of the lying in a pool of their own blood never entered their heads.

  233. jupes

    To the best of knowledge, in eight years only Calli has ever done so.

    LOL. Poor old MV. Nobody wants to read his stupid manual.

  234. DrBeauGan

    Per IT, at least, the Leftoid trolls give us an idea of the Leftoid daily talking points and an idea of their agenda.

    I don’t need to in the lefty talking points of the day. What I need to know is who sends them.

  235. Struth

    Struth…I’m very glad you’re back here….you were missed.

    I never left, I have more intense times and less intense times due to the real world and commitments.
    I had a break a few years ago I remember, it’s good for you.

    I’m sure the Lurkers all have brains in their heads MV, and don’t need our coaching, however I come here to get everyone else’s perspective and to learn from a wide range of folk so maybe they can too.
    Get the arguments clear in your head when you only get that couple of seconds to fire off a shot in real life.

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