Open Forum: July 4, 2020

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  1. MemoryFault

    Wow!
    It really is dead at the Cat tonight.
    Must nearly be time for bed.

  2. EvilElvis

    Everyone’s corona’d out I think, mf.

  3. stackja

    July 4th 2020.
    Will USA voters allow another in 2021?
    Or an abyss of Democrats?

  4. MemoryFault

    Everyone’s corona’d out I think

    Bloody younger generation.
    No staying power.
    No wonder their women always have that ‘hungry’ look.

  5. MemoryFault

    Big day here.
    My daughter in law’s birthday – July 4, Independence Day.
    And her daughter’s birthday as well – what are the odds?

  6. Megan

    Missed it by that much!

  7. K2

    My sister and I have the same birthday. September 15. We aren’t twins.

  8. K2

    My Father died on his birthday too. May 27.

  9. K2

    I seem to recall that the Wakelin twins who played in the AFL; Shane and Darryl, were born either side of midnight and had different birthdays. That is cool.

  10. K2

    Not for me. I might check in on Tim Blair Blog. But yeah, boring Xundz have all gone to bed. Up early for the ALDI specials.

  11. Ubique

    My brother has the same birthday Sep 15.

  12. Infidel Tiger King

    The Hill
    @thehill
    Manhattan apartment sales see worst decline in 30 years http://hill.cm/p717LF4

    You hate to see it.

  13. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Everyone’s corona’d out I think

    Bloody younger generation.
    No staying power.

    Oi, some of us have to work y’know.

  14. Turtle

    Noel Pearson has quoted Milton Friedman out of context and then gone on to some government job guarantee program. What an idiot. (In the Oz today)

  15. Tom

    When in doubt, it’s naked blokes for David Rowe.

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

    Danes to sort trash into ten types under new green deal (17 Jun)

    People living in Denmark will need to sort their recycling into ten different containers, under a new deal that aims to cut 0.7m tonnes of emissions and make the country’s waste sector carbon neutral by 2030.

    Denmark’s climate minister Dan Jørgensen said that, with the average Danish resident throwing away 800kg of waste into general recycling a year, people in the country were worse than the European average, which is 490kg.

    Do they use electric garbage trucks? The amount of diesel used to pick up ten different types of garbage must be phenomenal.

  17. CrazyOldRanga

    Second day of my trip to Perth from Danistan. Got over the SA border without being stopped and spent the night in Tailem Bend. Off to Ceduna today. Any Cats live on-route across the Nullarbor?

  18. Mark M

    ‘We’re all in this together’ update …

    “Federal Health Minster Greg Hunt said if reports of blatant protocol breaches were correct, those responsible should be punished.

    “There are two cases here — two hotels where clearly there have been breaches,” he told ABC News Breakfast.

    “On the allegations themselves, if they are correct, then Victoria should — should throw the book at them.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-02/victoria-hotel-quarantine-breaches-inquiry-launched/12414612

    Two words: Ruby Princess.

    Where was Hunt’s call for the book to be thrown at them?

    The sound of tumble weeds tumbling.

  19. Mark M

    After my 1st comment, I realised I hadn’t searched for Greg Hunt, Ruby Princess, throw book at them.

    Here we go …
    26 March 2020: Greg Hunt, Chris Kenny;

    “One case in particular, where the details have been relayed to me, a woman who is now in intensive care in Western Australia was tested for COVID-19 on the Ruby Princess; was then allowed to leave, stay in a hotel in Sydney for two days before developing symptoms and then flying back to Perth and going home.

    I mean, this is a tragic breakdown in our system and could have led to- may well have led to any number of infections in the hotel in Sydney, on the flight back to Perth.

    This is just not good enough.

    How can we be guaranteed that our systems, state and federal, will prevent that sort of abrogation of responsibility occurring again?

    Greg Hunt: “Look, I think this is a very important question. This is precisely why, under the emergency powers, the first order I signed was to prevent the arrival of foreign cruise ships.

    Obviously, cruise ships were returning and then, in each of those states, it’s been the responsibility of the state health officers to declare those.

    Overwhelmingly, they’ve done a tremendous job.

    In this case, I understand, the relevant authority acknowledged on Saturday that there were certain steps that should’ve been taken.

    But I’m not in the business of criticising.

    I am in the business of fixing.”
    https://www.greghunt.com.au/transcript-sky-news-interview-with-chris-kenny/

    No book throwing there.
    When you can’t fix, criticise.

  20. calli

    mh
    #3502860, posted on July 3, 2020 at 11:19 pm
    Fox News

    Minnesota Gov. Walz asks Trump for disaster declaration after George Floyd riots trigger over $500M in damages

    Would that be the riots aided and abetted by Dem Governors, Mayors, Senators and other assorted political riff-raff?

    Trump should tell them to stick it where the monkey stuck its nuts.

  21. Fair Shake of the Sauce Bottle

    No point throwing the book at the hotel. They are under the control of the Security agency. Credlin did a great interview last night with an industry expert. He predicted exactly this situation . Private security firms subcontract to others who then in turn subcontrontract down the chain. Until the person on the front line is newly arrived in Australia on the minimum hourly rate with poor English language skills, doing back to back shifts, then taking the virus back to their community. If the it hits the fan they can leave the country. Shocking structure and strategy from he start. Andrews should resign.

  22. MemoryFault

    Where was Hunt’s call for the book to be thrown at them?
    The sound of tumble weeds tumbling.

    You were expecting anything else?
    Hunt was the Minister for the Environment in the original Abbott government elected in September 2013. At Christmas a couple of months later, Chris Turney, of the UNSW, got his “Ship of Fools” full of “trainee climate scientists”, stuck in ice down at Antarctica. Their subsequent rescue cost Australia tens of millions of dollars in compensation and disrupted the Antarctic summer plans of four different nations.

    Hunt never even made a public statement or put out a press release about it. According to his office, indeed, according to the entire Abbott government from the PM down, it never happened.

    Chris Turney, incidentally, is now Professor of Climate Change and Earth Science at UNSW, and was recently made a Laureate Fellow of the Australian Research Council.

    All under a Liberal government.

  23. calli

    American Independence Day 2019 – our ride was parked in LA next to her older sister, stern to stern.

    Many…many fireworks and an Andrews Sisters look alike group singing “Star Spangled Banner”. And afterwards much dancing and merriment on the poop deck.

    What a difference a year makes.

  24. 132andBush

    Calli,
    The only word needed for this year would be “poop”.

  25. MemoryFault

    This morning’s music is dedicated to all the gentler sex, but especially the outstanding Ladies here at the Cat, who so often bring sunshine into the dreary lives of us Tomcats. A little ditty about them from my misspent youf:

    “I like the girls who do, I like the girls who don’t.
    I like the girls who say they will, and then they say they won’t.
    But the girls that I like most of all, and I’m sure you’ll say I’m right,
    Are the girls who say they never will, but look as though they might.”

  26. Tintarella di Luna

    Good morning it’s still so dark outside though a hint of a shadow of a vestige of dawn is making the sky a just little lighter, maybe in an hour.

  27. No point throwing the book at the hotel. They are under the control of the Security agency. Credlin did a great interview last night with an industry expert. He predicted exactly this situation . Private security firms subcontract to others who then in turn subcontrontract down the chain.

    Ain’t privatisation wonderful?

  28. calli

    Patrick Cross #2 today, Tom.

    Sinister stuff. A soft interview was post on the dead thread. The guy couldn’t even string a sentence together. Short of burning down the entire country, what are they going to do between now and Nov 4?

  29. calli

    Not a “privatisation” issue, rather a mistake in handing out the contract. A dope in the bureaucracy is hardly “private enterprise”.

    As it didn’t go to tender, there may also be a corruption aspect to it as well.

    Leaves anyone who’s gone through the tender process just shaking their heads.

  30. MemoryFault

    As it didn’t go to tender, there may also be a corruption aspect to it as well

    Ya think?
    Nah. Couldn’t be. Not here in Oz.

  31. Tintarella di Luna

    Would that be the riots aided and abetted by Dem Governors, Mayors, Senators and other assorted political riff-raff?

    Trump should tell them to stick it where the monkey stuck its nuts.

    It would indeed calli and this is exactly what President Trump has been waiting for — total capitulation by the DEMONcRATS — this is Kayleigh MacEnany announcing that the Summer of Love was over in Seattle

  32. Herodotus

    I hear the BBC every day bagging Bolsonaro in Brazil over his Casual handling of the pandemic, and the death rate – but not a word against the Swedish government and their hands-off approach.

  33. The USA is heading towards 3 million cases of the virus that Dettol Donny hopes will disappear.
    Deaths are running at 399 per million.
    In Oz, the death rate is 4 per million.
    The Septics don’t have much to celebrate today.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    Fair Shake,

    Accurate assessment of the security industry, at least in the larger cities. Actually, smaller cities as well.

    Ripe for ghosting and other assorted rorting by the business owners, and I for one don’t blame the individual mongs at the door. Not knowing any better, five minutes of training, cash in the kick, the opportunity to extort a root out of a sheila guest who’s run out of smokes. If you were a half-literate inbred from Noble Park, why wouldn’t you?

    It’s just a variant of the NDIS.

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I couldn’t care less what happens in the land of the shooting spree.’

    Said the sook who wants to vote in that same land.

  36. calli

    Those death rates are interesting. There must be a pattern there.

    Spain 607
    UK 650
    Italy 576
    France 458
    Sweden 536
    Belgium a whopping 843

    Yet the Netherlands is only 357.*

    Is there some sort of mathematical anomaly there? Are cases assessed and recorded on the same basis? All First World, all densely populated in the same latitude band.

    * Worldometer

  37. Knuckle Dragger

    The ‘Imma stab’ Harvard skank not only displayed a monumental lack of situational awareness which hopefully blew up not only her current job but anything she applies for in the next decade, but was the funniest shit ever.

    Cry, stupid girl that had her extortionate education fees paid for by someone else, cry your hilarious tears.

  38. miltonf

    More than ever this rings true…

    I am obliged to confess I should sooner live in a society governed by the first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory than in a society governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University.

  39. calli

    Roger, is the answer that the virus is simply becoming attenuated as it runs through the population?

  40. Ripe for ghosting and other assorted rorting by the business owners, and I for one don’t blame the individual mongs at the door. Not knowing any better, five minutes of training, cash in the kick, the opportunity to extort a root out of a sheila guest who’s run out of smokes. If you were a half-literate inbred from Noble Park, why wouldn’t you?

    A trick cyclist would have a field day with this.

    Paranoia – check.
    Xenophobia – check.
    Delusional disorder – check.
    Sexual obsession – check.

    All solid reasons for discharge – more believable than frostbite.

  41. MemoryFault

    Is there some sort of mathematical anomaly there?

    Good morning Calli.
    It’s really quite simple. Countries that immediately succumbed to the Diktats of the WHO, like Australia and Taiwan, have low reported death rates. Countries that dragged their feet, like Italy and the UK, have higher reported death rates. America, where Trump openly opposed the WHO, has the highest rate of all.

    Note that I wrote reported rates.

  42. Beertruk

    For those interested in aviation, this in today’s Tele:

    Fumes on a fatal flight

    DANIELLE GUSMAROLI

    Toxic gas blamed for crash

    THE Sydney Seaplane pilot who crashed in the Hawkesbury River in 2017, killing all six on board, most likely lost control after breathing in poisonous fumes that leaked into the cabin, it has been revealed.

    Elevated levels of carbon monoxide found in the blood of pilot Gareth Morgan were also detected in two of the plane’s five passengers after the crash on New Year’s Eve 2017.

    The findings were in an updated report by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), released yesterday.

    The investigation discovered the piston-driven aircraft was flying with a cracked exhaust collector ring and missing bolts in the firewall, which combined to enable the gas to leak into the cockpit

    It is understood maintenance organisation Airag, which had certified the doomed aircraft to fly on 31 December 2017, will he heavily questioned as part of the bureau’s ongoing probe.

    The crash claimed the

    lives of Mr Morgan, 44, British millionaire Richard Cousins, 58, his sons William, 25, and Edward, 23, his fiancee Emma Bowden, 48, and her daughter Heather, 11.

    Minutes after takeoff from Cottage Point, the DHC-2 Beaver seaplane flew dramatically off course and nosedived into water at Jerusalem Bay, on the Hawkesbury River north of Sydney.

    “The ATSB considers the levels of carbon monoxide were likely to have adversely affected the pilot’s ability to control the aircraft,” the bureau’s chief commissioner Greg Hood said.

    Sydney Seaplanes managind director Aaron Shaw said the crashed plane had been freshly overhauled and had only accumulated 90 hours of flying time.

    “Our sympathy, as always, remains with the families of those that perished, and we can only hope that finally understanding what happened in the accident goes some small way to helping them deal with their loss and provide some closure,” he said.

    The ATSB’s investigation is ongoing and a final report is expected in months.

  43. Roger

    Roger, is the answer that the virus is simply becoming attenuated as it runs through the population?

    I don’t know, calli.

    But as it moves into younger generations the death rate certainly drops.

  44. rickw

    Escapes from the CCP continue:

  45. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob. Doctor Pompous.

    The security guards in those Melbourne hotels were porking quarantined chicks en masse in those hotels. One of the reasons is that the skanks in them were bribing the guards with crotch fruit* to gain additional supplies of smokes, and on some occasions ice.

    It’s not obsession, you elderly nonce. It’s just what happened.

    And on obsessions, I’m not comparing people to child abuse survivors. You did quite enough of that yesterday for everyone.

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    *crotch fruit

    h/t LS, I think.

  47. calli

    At 399 per million, US doesn’t have the highest death rate. That was my point.

    They have the most active cases, because they have done the most testing.

  48. rickw

    Daily dose of Vietnam!

  49. Roger

    At 399 per million, US doesn’t have the highest death rate. That was my point.

    Yes, and the death rates are highest in just the locations you’d expect that to be the case.

  50. Gab

    At 399 per million, US doesn’t have the highest death rate. That was my point.

    They have the most active cases, because they have done the most testing.

    Admire your efforts, Calli, but the angry little Vietman doesn’t do facts.

  51. MemoryFault

    So, who slept in this morning, RickW?

  52. 1735099

    The UK, Spain, Belgium and Russia are all testing at higher rates than the USA.

  53. min

    Numbers, US army only recruit those whose I Q is above 83 and given his mathematical understanding that fellow probably just scraped in . The important number is number of deaths per million which is falling .and of course the more testing the more cases including asymptomatic carriers . Given the number running around the streets and suburbs or crowding on beaches in the states no wonder numbers are increasing , discovered by more testing .
    In Victoriastan thousands are refusing to be tested and the numbers are still increasing . Seems sneaking across borders in Oz also and that is another thing that Trump was unable to stop was movement in and out of trouble spots like NY .

  54. Eyrie

    rickw, thanks again for your help. I’m looking forward to the arrival of the lathe.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    Unsurprising, but knee-slapping nonetheless.

    Mr Veitman/Dettol Donny/WhydidIpay$15000000intax telling others they’re obsessed.

  56. MemoryFault

    At 399 per million, US doesn’t have the highest death rate.

    And my point was that ALL reported results (positives, sick, hospitalised, deaths) are more in line with how well a country kowtowed to the WHO, rather than to what might have actually happened.

  57. Knuckle Dragger

    Great find Gab.

    There was a movie about years and years ago with Downey Jnr in it, where he shifted into other people’s bodies or something, and he rattled of TSSB on stage in front of a crowd. BB King led the band behind him. It was just brilliant, but I can’t recall its name.

  58. Roger

    US rates may stillbe inflated by coronial reporting too.

  59. Farmer Gez

    Commie Bob never points the fingers at the gaggle of incompetents that are the socialist Labor government of Victoria.

    Today on the news, a diversity girlie in the health department is wearing the heat for poor oversight of hotel quarantine.

    Dan’s Spring Street socialist clique will be parading as many departmental heads on stakes as is needed to distract from their on culpable negligence.

    Watch real scumbags in action.

  60. Mater

    Paranoia – check.
    Delusional disorder – check.

    Lol.

    There was a time when I used to comment on Sinclair Davidson’s Catallaxy blog.

    It is a refuge for a weird bunch. Regular contributors include bitter ex-service personnel who never left Australia, raving imperialists, absolute nutters, and the occasional psychopath, but it was always excellent entertainment.

    Then I was banned.

    The reason for this was my mention of the fact that mining companies receive a rebate on diesel fuel costs, which amounts to a fair old whack (it will amount to $14 billion in the next four years). This was in the context of complaints about the taxpayer subsidising alternative energy investment through the Clean Energy Finance Corporation.

  61. MemoryFault

    Hasn’t Victoria, in line with the other states, now made “industrial manslaughter” a criminal offence with serious jail time for those convicted?

  62. min

    WHO did not recommend closing borders in fact did they not say racist to do so ?

  63. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Then I was banned.’

    Thus beginning a protracted and excruciating campaign of world-class sookage.

  64. Xword

    … and a ‘appy Aphelion Day to youse all …

  65. Eyrie

    Under “FFS”.
    Got the usual new items email from Sparkfun Electronics this morning:
    Thye are pushing to eliminate the terms “Master” and “Slave” from electronics nomenclature.

    I wrote a reply:
    “Hi Guys,

    I received your latest news in my email feed this morning with dismay.

    Redefinition of signal names? REALLY? Now we are going to have more unnecessary confusion as some people use one name, others another, let alone the huge amount of utterly pointless work involved in updating legacy documentation.

    Do you guys REALLY have nothing better to do?

    I don’t look for stupid politically correct virtue signalling in our suppliers. As is said “get work, go broke”.

    I see the OSH Park folks are on board with this too. I will reconsider dealing with them.

    The world has lots of problems right now, this isn’t one of them.

    Regards

  66. The security guards in those Melbourne hotels were porking quarantined chicks en masse in those hotels.

    “En masse” – dictionary definition is “in a group; all together”.
    KD is projecting his delusional fantasies on to a situation where there were (apparently*) reports of guards rooting quarantined women. In at least one report, this morphed into “sleeping on the job”, but that’s not salacious enough to score many clicks.
    One or two, *apparently – hardly “en masse”.
    *A favourite word for serial dissemblers.

  67. Farmer Gez

    On…own.

    I’d make a shithouse proof reader.

  68. Eyrie

    I just told Mrs Eyrie about Sparkfun. Her comment was ” what about “male” and “female” connectors?
    The again there are some Anderson connectors that are both. (good gadgets, BTW).

    Mrs Eyrie tells me that when she got a job in an ICU as a young RN she had never heard the terms used for connectors and thought they were taking the piss.

  69. Beertruk

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3502988, posted on July 4, 2020 at 8:27 am

    Thus beginning a protracted and excruciating campaign of world-class sookage.

    Curse you, KD.
    I am sending you the bill for the cleaning of me monitor when I spat tea on it after reading that.

  70. MemoryFault

    The reason for this was my mention of the fact that mining companies receive a rebate on diesel fuel costs,

    Absolute complete and utter BS.

    There is no “rebate” on diesel fuel costs for mining companies or anybody else.
    There IS a tax on vehicle fuels to pay for the construction and maintenance of gazetted roads. The tax is collected at the wholesale level. Diesel fueled vehicles that don’t use, or only partially use, gazetted roads, such as mining and farming vehicles, are entitled to a refund of that portion of the tax paid with respect to off-road use.

    This has been posted several times here in response to Numbers BS.
    But as usual, he prefers to ignore the truth and continue to lie through his back teeth.

  71. Knuckle Dragger

    This, from a tacher having problems with the word ‘they’.

    It’s not delusional, and it’s not a fantasy.

    An example of a delusional fantasy would be public speculation that someone that just pulled apart your weaselly commentary was abused as a child. On current form, that statement was probably plagiarised from somewhere.

    But then again. ‘I can’t be bothered to be consistent’.

  72. Admire your efforts, Calli, but the angry little Vietman doesn’t do facts.

    As already pointed out above, the UK, Spain, Belgium and Russia are all testing at higher rates than the USA.
    That is a FACT.

    The USA rates eighth behind UAE, UK, Russia, Qatar, Spain, Belarus and Belguim.

  73. ‘Then I was banned.’

    Thus beginning a protracted and excruciating campaign of world-class sookage.

    Nope.
    Sinc just saw the error of his ways.
    Balance is essential.

  74. MatrixTransform

    My sister and I have the same birthday. September 15. We aren’t twins.

    I know what your parents did on those xmas breaks …

  75. Eyrie

    Sorry, that should have read “get woke, go broke”.

  76. hzhousewife

    They are pushing to eliminate the terms “Master” and “Slave” from electronics nomenclature.

    I am curious to know how they have eliminated the male and female connector issue from the ancient gender wars? What are the descriptions now?

  77. Knuckle Dragger

    Doctor Pompous,

    As a favour to the masses, please repost your gravatar pic with your applied-for-the-camera cam cream on.

    You know. The one with your finger in the trigger guard. That’s a belter.

  78. MemoryFault

    WHO did not recommend closing borders in fact did they not say racist to do so ?

    WHO have changed direction twice on the issue, and Morrison has been in lock-step with them all the way. Funny about that.

  79. Eyrie

    “But as usual, he prefers to ignore the truth and continue to lie through his back teeth.”

    Standard leftist M.O. , MemoryFault.

    They think their lies will be truth if they just repeat them often and loud enough.

  80. Tekweni

    I am curious. Not living in Australia when national service was in place where there any IQ restrictions in place for national service? If there weren’t then it explains an enormous amount of why a prolific poster on this site posts so much nonsense on the military and his service. Real low intelligence rants.

  81. Cassie of Sydney

    Andy Williams singing Battle Hymn of the Republic at the funeral of Robert Kennedy….it brings tears to my eyes…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gN44ohRnSI

    Happy 4th of July everyone

  82. hzhousewife

    Snap with Mrs Eyrie !

  83. Cassie of Sydney

    I want to embed it…

  84. MatrixTransform

    I wanna thank Numpty for the daily roll of comic posts.

    genius

  85. Cassie of Sydney

    “Tekweni
    #3503006, posted on July 4, 2020 at 8:44 am
    I am curious. Not living in Australia when national service was in place where there any IQ restrictions in place for national service? If there weren’t then it explains an enormous amount of why a prolific poster on this site posts so much nonsense on the military and his service. Real low intelligence rants

    Yep.

  86. Eyrie

    “I am curious to know how they have eliminated the male and female connector issue from the ancient gender wars? What are the descriptions now?”

    They haven’t yet but I’m looking forward to the new conventions and tortured language and thinking to justify them. No doubt some idiot will want to do this as I just sent another email to Sparkfun:
    “Further to my previous, I just told my wife about this (our electronics assembly technician and much more). Her comment was “what about male and female connectors”

    “Do you see where this stupid PC virtue signalling abuse of language might go?”

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There is no “rebate” on diesel fuel costs for mining companies or anybody else.
    There IS a tax on vehicle fuels to pay for the construction and maintenance of gazetted roads. The tax is collected at the wholesale level. Diesel fueled vehicles that don’t use, or only partially use, gazetted roads, such as mining and farming vehicles, are entitled to a refund of that portion of the tax paid with respect to off-road use.

    That’s a good explanation – I’m always amazed at the depths of ignorance surrounding this issue.

  88. calli

    Ahahah!

    Now he’s looking at rates per million of population.

    Experiment successful!

  89. Farmer Gez

    The Numbers never add up.

    US testing per million – 109,475
    Australia – 102,659

    Victoria has the highest testing rate in Australia and has had for most of the epidemic.

    What’s your point Numbers?

  90. Entropy

    There is no “rebate” on diesel fuel costs for mining companies or anybody else.
    There IS a tax on vehicle fuels to pay for the construction and maintenance of gazetted roads. The tax is collected at the wholesale level. Diesel fueled vehicles that don’t use, or only partially use, gazetted roads, such as mining and farming vehicles, are entitled to a refund of that portion of the tax paid with respect to off-road use.

    Yes the excise should be properly labelled “road user charge” as it was originally set up by the States. The problem for government if it it did so would be the revealing that revenue from the excise and actual road builing/maintenance costs no longer have a relationship.

  91. calli

    I think you’d call that a Positive Result. 🤣

  92. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Real low intelligence rants.’

    Correct, Tekweni – but it’s more than that.

    It’s a litany of self-justification by a weak man who abandoned his principles 50 years ago so as not to look bad to his acquaintances, with half an inch of acquired virtue slathered over the top.

  93. calli

    And my point was that ALL reported results (positives, sick, hospitalised, deaths) are more in line with how well a country kowtowed to the WHO, rather than to what might have actually happened.

    Is there a standardised measure of kowtow-isation? Depth, duration, angle of subservience, quantity of slobber?

    If not, there should be. Being all scientific and all.

  94. miltonf

    Are all Democrat office holders Bolshevik sleepers?

  95. rickw

    So, who slept in this morning, RickW?

    Na, forgot to plug the phone in, was as flat as a board when I woke up!

  96. Eyrie

    Zulu,
    In most cases it is WILFUL ignorance and/or deliberate disinformation. Standard lefty tactic.

  97. Boambee John

    For someone who

    couldn’t care less what happens in the land of the shooting spree

    the bin chicken is remarkably au fait with events there, including lots of obscure postings by disgruntled individuals.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In most cases it is WILFUL ignorance and/or deliberate disinformation. Standard lefty tactic.

    Probably, but I did run a farm for a few years. The diesel fuel rebate was presented as some sort of subsidy, and the equal of the subsidies paid to my European and American counterparts.

  99. mh

    rickw
    #3502969, posted on July 4, 2020 at 8:05 am
    Daily dose of Vietnam!

    Thanks, Rick!
    What happened to Jimmy in that video?
    It’s like a daily dose of bad drugs!

  100. Boambee John

    Peter M/F

    Countries that immediately succumbed to the Diktats of the WHO, like Australia and Taiwan,

    The WHO opposed border closures.

  101. MemoryFault

    Na, forgot to plug the phone in, was as flat as a board when I woke up!

    Well, at least you made it eventually.
    Welcome to a new day, RickW.
    And thanks again for the music.

  102. cohenite

    I see the troll is off to his usual lying start, repeating lies about chunk virus death rates; all the rebuttals you need are at John Hopkins. But the important thing to remember is that over 40% of all US deaths are in NY, NJ, Penn and Mass all demorat states; and that over 40% of all deaths are in nursing homes because of demorat policies. The troll is a liar, always has been a liar and always will be a liar.

  103. will

    MemoryFault
    #3502978, posted on July 4, 2020 at 8:14 am
    At 399 per million, US doesn’t have the highest death rate.

    And my point was that ALL reported results (positives, sick, hospitalised, deaths) are more in line with how well a country kowtowed to the WHO, rather than to what might have actually happened.

    Of course if you lock everything down you will get fewer cases, but the cost of that is not worth the tradeoff. The Chinese plague is simply not that dangerous to 95% of the population. There are much smarter ways of handling it.

  104. lotocoti

    “what about male and female connectors”

    Sex changers should be OK.

  105. MemoryFault

    The WHO opposed border closures.

    Good morning Boambee John.
    Not denied. Read down a few posts.

  106. miltonf

    Jaycar went on an ‘anyone but white guys’ kick a while back. Very offensive.

  107. Mater

    Lathe of the week, the mighty Colchester Bantam:

    Rickw,
    Curious. What’s it like to get spare parts for some of the older lathes?

  108. miltonf

    It’s interesting to consider actor Reiner’s most recent anti DJT supporter insults. His source of fame ‘All in the family’ was created to attack regular working Americans for voting for Nixon.

  109. will

    There is no “rebate” on diesel fuel costs for mining companies or anybody else.

    The government calls it a fuel tax credit.

    https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Fuel-schemes/Fuel-tax-credits—business/Rates—business/From-1-July-2019/

  110. Roger

    The WHO opposed border closures.

    Pretty much the only WHO advice our CMO didn’t follow.

  111. Roger

    It’s interesting to consider actor Reiner’s most recent anti DJT supporter insults. His source of fame ‘All in the family’ was created to attack regular working Americans for voting for Nixon.

    An American version of Till Death Us Do Part.

  112. rickw

    Just remember Cats, Saturday is prep day!

    #1 choice for boogaloo in Oz, perfect for waving at Antifa when you need to get them off your lawn, however, do expect to spend ten years in the slammer for it, Oz is an Anarcho Tyranny!

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    “what about male and female connectors”

    Trans connectors matter too y’know.

    What the hell is wrong with you people?

  114. min

    Cohenite, just read a verylong piece on studies done by Swiss . it claims death rate is about equivalent of bad flu, death rate .1% but upto .4% where patients moved back into nursing homes. 46% deaths in USA occurred in nursing homes , 80% who tested positive were asymptomatic, The consensus of many noteable experts in field was aftermath of mental issues from lockdowns will out weigh the virus. let alone the economical damage.

  115. Mater

    Nope.
    Sinc just saw the error of his ways.
    Balance is essential.

    I would seriously need to hear it from Sinc’s own mouth before I actually believed that you were ‘assholed’ for spouting rubbish about fuel rebates.

    Wrong though your argument may be, on the scale of stupidity and dishonesty that you’ve demonstrated on this blog, that barely makes a blip.

  116. rickw

    Rickw,
    Curious. What’s it like to get spare parts for some of the older lathes?

    For Colchester’s it’s pretty good, there’s a lot of NOS parts around.

    For Hercus in Australia it is very good, a guy named Mal in Holbrook has dedicated himself to making parts. He brought Hercus’s spares stock and they give him access to their engineering drawings as necessary.

    https://www.australianmetalworkinghobbyist.com/

    Generally for the older machines if they haven’t been abused it’s not to difficult to get them up and running. It’s normally transmission bearings (standard), plus worn lead screws (machine back to consistent profile, bore out old nut and pour white metal into it.)

  117. mh

    Woman claims Ghislaine Maxwell raped her ’20-30 times’; willing to testify: ‘She is just as evil as Jeffrey Epstein’

    Jane Doe claims years of sexual abuse came to an end only after she became pregnant with Jeffrey Epstein’s baby


    Jane Doe claims years of sexual abuse came to an end only after she became pregnant with Jeffrey Epstein’s baby. At age 16, she had an abortion. …
    Suspecting that she had told her grandparents about the abortion, and fearful she would talk to authorities, Doe says, Maxwell, Epstein and others gang-raped her one last time as punishment. “Ghislaine was a part of it,” Doe said. “I was drugged.”

    After the rape, Doe said, a driver with a gun drove her to her home. “I was dumped off in my grandparents yard naked, and was told that I wouldn’t come back alive the next time,” Doe said.

    Fearful for her life, Doe said, her grandfather put her into hiding. She dropped out of high school. “I basically kind of vanished,” she said. “Ms. Maxwell was a participant, and she made it very clear that I was to keep my mouth shut or harm would come to my family and myself and harm did come to me.”…

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-rape-testify-evil-epstein

  118. notafan

    Calli

    That’s easy!

    Netherlands already euthanasised most of their frail elderly.

  119. rickw

    Jaycar went on an ‘anyone but white guys’ kick a while back. Very offensive.

    Huh? Their customers are 99% White and Asian?

  120. notafan

    MH

    That’s sounds like a fantastical story.

  121. rickw

    Netherlands already euthanasised most of their frail elderly.

    Against their will.

  122. Roger

    David Starkey is cancelled.

    Where are the Voltairean liberals now?

    Keeping quiet in the hope the crocodile eats them last?

  123. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tintarella di Luna
    #3502939, posted on July 4, 2020 at 6:46 am
    Good morning it’s still so dark outside though a hint of a shadow of a vestige of dawn is making the sky a just little lighter, maybe in an hour.

    For a moment, yonder sun stood tip toe on the misty mountain tops and then at 0722 a dense black cloud rolled in with portent of another day dull and drear.

  124. rickw

    David Starkey is cancelled.

    Do we have enough people cancelled yet to simply restart the world on the other side of the cancel wall?!

    I’m thinking it would be pretty awesome! There’d be a John Wayne Airport for starters!

  125. Mater

    Generally for the older machines if they haven’t been abused it’s not to difficult to get them up and running. It’s normally transmission bearings (standard), plus worn lead screws (machine back to consistent profile, bore out old nut and pour white metal into it.)

    Thanks. It’s always been a concern when contemplating one.

    For the woodworkers out there worried about tablesaws and fingers, I accidentally fired off a cartridge on my Sawstop tablesaw. I’ve always been a little dubious, but it really does work.

    Not a cheap option, but costs less than reattaching a finger/s, and the associated time off work. The saw itself is also a beautiful piece of machinery. Highly recommended.

  126. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3503064, posted on July 4, 2020 at 9:33 am
    David Starkey is cancelled.

    Where are the Voltairean liberals now?

    Keeping quiet in the hope the crocodile eats them last”

    That’s right….the cowardice from the liberals is now at peak levels. As with Bettina Arndt…the left have been after Starkey for years….and now they’ve got him…..aided and abetted by spineless, supine toadies on the right who refuse to stand up and say anything…instead they join in the lynching. Smacks of what happened to Bettina a few months ago.

  127. Boambee John

    Peter M/F

    Check your email.

  128. notafan

    Iirc numbers got cancelled after a long period of trolling Judith Sloan he trolled Sinc who gave him a quick shove then and there.

    There was a brief sock wearing reappearance then Sinc gave him a second chance.

    He’s not beloved 😭😭😭.

  129. Geriatric Mayfly

    Beautiful rendition of the Star Spangled Banner.

    What is the significance of this? Is not the new anthem “Imagine” as sung by some dissolute bloody hippy. Best version being when Yoko takes a high C7.

  130. rickw

    For the woodworkers out there worried about tablesaws and fingers, I accidentally fired off a cartridge on my Sawstop tablesaw. I’ve always been a little dubious, but it really does work.

    Not a cheap option, but costs less than reattaching a finger/s, and the associated time off work. The saw itself is also a beautiful piece of machinery. Highly recommended.

    That is simply brilliant!!!

  131. P
    #3503053, posted on July 4, 2020 at 9:20 am
    Michigan Hydroxychloroquine Study Shows Significant Benefit for Treatment – Media Shocked…
    Posted on July 3, 2020 by sundance

    This was linked to The Last Refuge, described on the Media Fact Check Site as – Reasoning: Extreme Right, Poor Sourcing, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Lack of Transparency, Fake News.

    The Last Refuge is a conservative news and opinion blog that encourages comments on their posts. According to their about page: “Fear is at the core of liberalism, and love/trust is at the core of conservatism. Liberalism is about control. Conservatism is about self-empowerment.” This biased statement is reflected in the content of the website.

    The website completely lacks transparency as they do not cite authors, disclose authors, ownership, or location.

    It’s remarkable that reports claiming efficacy for hydroxychloroquine appear only on sites that support Dettol Donny’s bulllshit. This is politics, not medicine, but the Harpics here fall for it every time.

  132. MemoryFault

    Good morning Steve.

    You posted that Bergersen track the other night.
    Great listening though.
    Thanks.

  133. notafan

    Go and argue that on the dedicated thread please numbers.

  134. I would seriously need to hear it from Sinc’s own mouth before I actually believed that you were ‘assholed’ for spouting rubbish about fuel rebates.

    Go back and find the exchange.
    That should keep you busy for a while, and you might even discover why I was banned.
    Hint: It was during a discussion about diesel fuel rebates.

  135. mh

    notafan
    #3503062, posted on July 4, 2020 at 9:31 am
    MH

    That’s sounds like a fantastical story.

    Fantastical but not fantasy, I doubt.
    This sickness goes right through Hollywood, too.
    These are the elites.

  136. rickw

    Go back and find the exchange.
    That should keep you busy for a while, and you might even discover why I was banned.
    Hint: It was during a discussion about diesel fuel rebates.

    Every day, each and every one of us should give thanks that we are not numbers. Prisoner to his own derangement.

  137. Go and argue that on the dedicated thread please numbers.

    There is nobody with the cojones prepared to argue there.
    It’s probably because my blog doesn’t feature a peanut gallery of sycophants….operant conditioning and all that.

  138. William the Conjuror

    On the Fourth of July, love must stand.

  139. Boambee John

    described on the Media Fact Check Site as

    ROFLMAO!

    The bin chicken takes the “if you don’t like the result, find a way to attack the source” route! After all that scrabbling around in the trash, he has still not comprehended the systemic bias of so-called “fact checkers”.

  140. Nick

    What a world. Someone whining over and over on a site that he was ‘banned’ from. The ironing.

  141. Steve trickler

    G’day Pete.

  142. P

    1735099
    #3503078, posted on July 4, 2020 at 9:44 am

    The Last Refuge is a rag tag bunch of misfits that do not align with political specificity.
    We share information, seek known truths and discuss.

    I like to share. Please try to make allowances for people such as me. I do that for you.

  143. The relationship between Renewable Energy and child labor in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/06/22/child-labor-in-the-drc-and-climate-change/

  144. Mater

    Go back and find the exchange.
    That should keep you busy for a while, and you might even discover why I was banned.

    You mean this one?

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/06/19/petrol-prices-and-tobacco-excise/

    Or, this one?

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/10/18/anugate-update/

    I see that at the end of the second link, Sinc wakes up to the fact that you are trolling, but I see no mention of banning.
    Sinc’s discovery is hardly a revelation for the rest of us. I’m not convinced that you’ve done anything but troll on this site. If he was going to ban you for that, it would have happened long ago.

    P.S. Didn’t take that long, hey?

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    Off to the Great Game. Play nicely with the weak and faux-virtuous, punters.

  146. Boambee John

    There is nobody with the cojones prepared to argue there.
    It’s probably because my blog doesn’t feature a peanut gallery of sycophants….operant conditioning and all that.

    No, just a mirror in which the blogster can admire his own perfection! FIGJAM is the site motto.

  147. John64

    I’m envisioning the revival of a much loved movie franchise.

    “Carry On Quarantine” – a hilarious take on guards romping with detainees supposedly in quarantine with tasteful bum and tit jokes and of course lotsa nudge-nudge wink-wink.

    Sid James playing hapless Premier Stan Andrews.

    Hattie Jaques as clueless Health Minister Jenny Miclothesoff.

    Kenneth Williams as chief security guard Captain Handson.

  148. Knuckle Dragger

    NB: Good one Mater.

    He can throw it on the pile of his whining to management about people not respecting his authoritah.

  149. old bloke

    How soon till we hear that Ghislaine Maxwell killed herself (while under 24 hour close guard?)

  150. Struth

    It’s remarkable that reports claiming efficacy for hydroxychloroquine appear only on sites that support Dettol Donny’s bulllshit. This is politics, not medicine,

    Exactly.
    So it’s not going to appear on the left wing sites where people dying of (CoD fudging lefty lies) covid would prefer people continue to die to hang the numbers around their political opponent’s neck.
    What the left have been proven to be doing, (like US democratic governors fining people who dare introduce a drug to people that has been used with no side effects for malaria for years, and is totally safe), is to do all they can to stop people from saving lives for political gain.
    Pure evil.
    Why not?
    They’ve been doing it with the aboriginal people here for well over fifty years.
    Ensuring their failure and misery to help bring on ze revolution.

  151. EvilElvis

    Na, forgot to plug the phone in, was as flat as a board when I woke up!

    Bugger. Custard and I were having a laugh yesterday about ‘daily dose’. Put the mockers on you rickw. 😂

  152. notafan

    Thanks Philby

    I’ve said many times before that Victoria police were culpable.

    As a teen in the 70s we all knew lodging a complaint of sexual assault would be a waste of time.
    At age 14 one of my friends was t aped at knife point by a recent releassee from Turana. There were other incidents. Much discussion but don’t bother with police was the accepted wisdom.

    And yes Inglewood, everybody knew.

  153. Mater

    Now Bob, like KD, I’m going out for the day, so behave.
    Try to keep the lies to a minimum.

  154. MemoryFault

    Got it John, thanks.
    So we are pretty much in agreement then?

  155. Boambee John

    Peter

    Agreement that all government action is for the worse, and that nothing of great impact will happen on this matter for some extended time?

  156. min

    I had listened to David Starkey and d thought he sailed too close to the wind re genocide . However as dark skinned people were first humans they got first bite of the cherry, paler skinned people made cherry pie. Jared Diamond’s hypothesis that only countries that had domesticated animals could give up hunter gatherer life maybe the reason . Masai make a nonsense of that theory as they still live semi nomadic life moving their domesticated beasts around . When in Kenya last the chief has actually built a house and was putting tribal lands under wheat.

  157. Boambee John

    Mater

    Try to keep the lies to a minimum.

    Define “minimum”.

  158. Boambee John

    Jared Diamond’s hypothesis that only countries that had domesticated animals could give up hunter gatherer life maybe the reason

    Don’t anyone tell Bruce pascoe, or his next volume will claim that vast herds of diprotodon roamed the land until whitey arrived, complete with quotes from early explorers.

  159. MemoryFault

    G’day Pete.

    Soon to be Sergeant Peter Loneheart of the Torchwood Brigade.

    All three websites are now ready to go, and the domain names registered. Did you know you can now register a whole bunch of domain groups, apart from just .com, .com.au, .org, and so on?

    Hence the parent site is still plain old Torchwoodbrigade.org, but the others are Torchwood.Team for the discussion forum, and FYLM.Rocks for the protest site (Firing Your Local Member Rocks).

  160. notafan

    No numbers on the dedicated Dettol Don thread.

    Fancy that.

    And the fuel rebate thread was a good one with various people but most especially MV knocking lying numbers out of the park.

    Those fuel subsidies eh?

  161. Mark A

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3502950, posted on July 4, 2020 at 7:37 am

    ‘I couldn’t care less what happens in the land of the shooting spree.’

    Said the sook who wants to vote in that same land.

    He might even want to tell us what colour our bedroom walls should be painted?
    Illegal aliens voting, what a load of BS.

  162. miltonf

    Soon the pubic service parasites in Canbra will be saying the money they allow you to keep every pay day is a subsidy.

  163. Farmer Gez

    Floods in China and vast areas under water with 1.5 million hectares of crop damaged.

    Might need a bit of barley and beef.

    Hu Flung Dung in the shit.

  164. Warwick

    miltonf
    #3503131, posted on July 4, 2020 at 10:44 am
    Soon the pubic service parasites in Canbra will be saying the money they allow you to keep every pay day is a subsidy.

    I think that is already the thinking.

  165. Makka

    Numbers wrong again , this time on the hydroxychloroquine. Now all day he’ll be deflecting and lying in his lame attempts to divert attention from his unbounded ignorance.

    Numbers is a communists and commos always lie. It’s in their DNA.

  166. MemoryFault

    the money they allow you to keep every pay day is a subsidy.

    And the HoR has already voted in the legislation to empower them to do it. And more.
    Liberal, Labor, Nationals and the LNP all voted it favour of it.
    It’s called the Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019, and it includes provisions for you to do serious jail time if you have the audacity to think you should be able to decide how, where and when you spend that money you merely worked hard for, and paid taxes on.

    Shame on you!

  167. miltonf

    Think you are right Warwick. They’re just not game to say it quite yet.

  168. Geriatric Mayfly

    Floods in China and vast areas under water with 1.5 million hectares of crop damaged.Might need a bit of barley and beef.

    Information from US satellites will have it calculated down to the last half grain of fodder. Infra red will pick up the bats.

  169. MatrixTransform

    What are the descriptions now?

    Male and Female.

    no wait … innie and outie

  170. Farmer Gez

    Could someone create a new troll?

    If Lizzie’s out there, could she pop back as a retired senior Canberra PS, who’s keen on intersectionality.

  171. Johno

    At present any amount of cash in excess of $10,000 has to be reported. As well any cash deposit which a teller or other person thinks could be suspicious can be reported. How does the current bill before the house differ?

  172. Ricky Winmar should go ahead and sue Newman anyway.
    Isn’t “escalate” the advice always given here?

    The parties met for mediation in Melbourne yesterday, after which Winmar was offered a public apology.

    “During our 23 June 2020 podcast, we talked about Nicky lifting his jumper and pointing to his skin at the end of the 1993 Collingwood and St Kilda match during which he had been racially abused,” a statement from Newman, Scott and Sheahan read.

    “We acknowledge what Nicky did was an act of Indigenous pride and defiance.

  173. incoherent rambler

    For the woodworkers out there worried about tablesaws and fingers,

    I can verify that bone sawn thru by a power saw takes a while to heal.
    Also quite painful.

  174. cohenite

    This is why the troll should be banned; yesterday I rebutted its chunk virus death rates comparison bullshit and hydroxy rubbish and today it has put up exactly the same crap lies it put up yesterday. It’s like a 12 year old pre pubescent demon girl in its emotional persistence; in fact maybe it is, maybe its been possessed; the troll as it approaches each new thread:

  175. Rockdoctor

    Morning all. Cold night up here then the front came through on dawn making work uncomfortable.

    There is no “rebate” on diesel fuel costs for mining companies or anybody else.
    There IS a tax on vehicle fuels to pay for the construction and maintenance of gazetted roads. The tax is collected at the wholesale level. Diesel fueled vehicles that don’t use, or only partially use, gazetted roads, such as mining and farming vehicles, are entitled to a refund of that portion of the tax paid with respect to off-road use.

    Best put and am amazed how much this lie is propagated. Am quite sure the diesel used in site vehicles that never leave the site in Queensland was a different colour so that illegal use can be detected in road vehicles. Drillers used to grizzle about it all the time. Do believe the regime is similar for Ag vehicles. Did some digging with no joy and can’t remember the particulars. Blue pops into my head for some reason.

    What get my goat is the same greenies crying foul over this are the same ones accepting rivers of taxpayer dollars to prop up their inefficent schemes. Hypocrisy anyone?

  176. Tintarella di Luna

    For a moment, yonder sun stood tip toe on the misty mountain tops and then at 0722 a dense black cloud rolled in with portent of another day dull and drear.

    Not here in the Big Smoke Geriatric Mayfly it took longer than an hour but the yonder unbroken window is streaming sunshine (no lollipops or rainbows) chilly but clear now. Have a good one notwithstanding portended dull and dreariness.

  177. Old Lefty

    Will she be offered political asylum in Yarragrad where no one is ever prosecuted for attacks on churches?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-04/woman-jailed-for-plotting-to-bomb-st-pauls-cathedral-in-london/12422536

  178. MemoryFault

    How does the current bill before the house differ?

    For a start, the “current” bill is not “before the house”. It was passed by the HoR back in October last year. It’s been with the Senate ever since, mostly because people started to ask questions. No matter. When the time comes it will be quietly passed, again with support from the Liberals, Labor, Nationals and the LNP.

    How does it differ? Principally in two ways. First, existing legislation is merely a reporting function. You can still actually carry out the transaction, it just gets reported for follow-up. Under the new Bill, if the grubbymint doesn’t like it, then your bank or whatever can’t fulfill it. With jail time if you try and circumvent the legislation via multiple transactions and the like.

    Second, the current legislation is set at $10,000. Under the new legislation the amount is nominal, and can be changed to whatever the grubbymint wants, by decree. Yes, all the articles on it keep maintaining the “$10,000” myth. But the truth is, the day after the legislation is passed the grubbymint can make it $10.00 if they so wish.

  179. Geriatric Mayfly

    Not here in the Big Smoke Geriatric Mayfly it took longer than an hour but the yonder unbroken window is streaming sunshine (no lollipops or rainbows) chilly but clear now. Have a good one notwithstanding portended dull and dreariness.

    My metaphor went slightly astray. Or are you shielded in you sunny haven from visitations by the resident bore ? The first manifestation clouded the eye of heaven at 0722 and his gold complexion dimm’d ever since.

  180. Roger

    Liberty Quote
    The much abused shopkeepers have abolished slavery and serfdom, made woman the companion of man with equal rights, proclaimed equality before the law and freedom of thought and opinion, declared war on war, abolished torture, and mitigated the cruelty of punishment. What cultural force can boast of similar achievements?

    — Ludwig von Mises

  181. Mark A

    Did You Know?

    The founder of FedEx saved the fledgling company by turning its last $5,000 into $27,000 with a lucky run at a blackjack table in Las Vegas—the winnings bought FedEx just enough time to secure more funding.

    No I didn’t.

  182. Steve trickler

    Polly, back in Aug 2, 2019.

    And now it makes the MSM news.



  183. Tel

    There IS a tax on vehicle fuels to pay for the construction and maintenance of gazetted roads. The tax is collected at the wholesale level.

    People understand that … and they also know that after the tax is collected, very little of it gets spent on roads … so might as well rattle a few bucks out of the mining companies because this never has been an honest game to begin with. The mining companies have money, and we wants it.

  184. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger
    #3503167, posted on July 4, 2020 at 11:31 am”

    Thank you Roger…wonderful quote for the day. It provides me with a little succour for the day because, quite frankly, this left-wing, progressive, turgid social media culture of screaming down, hectoring, cancelling, censoring, deplatforming, silencing and so on anyone the left doesn’t like is depressing me somewhat. Particularly with the “cancelling” of Starkey…perhaps the greatest living historian of Tudor and Stuart England. They’ve been after Starkey for years….and now they’ve gotten him. Cambridge University have cancelled him as have his publishers. Oh but please note that the same Cambridge University didn’t cancel the academic who tweeted last week ‘White Lives Don’t Matter’…in her case they defended free speech and promoted her.

  185. Tel

    This is why the troll should be banned; yesterday I rebutted its chunk virus death rates comparison bullshit and hydroxy rubbish and today it has put up exactly the same crap lies it put up yesterday.

    Does appear to have become a standard tactic these days: brutal mind-numbing repetition of garbage pushed over and over, without any intention to engage in honest debate. I suppose to some extent this strategy must work, on some people, but when you see that approach you can be sure the troll has nothing. Army of brain dead button mashers, endlessly pasting the latest talking points … empty lives, empty heads.

    Sad.

  186. Johno

    But the truth is, the day after the legislation is passed the grubbymint can make it $10.00 if they so wish.

    You are saying that the government can change the amount on a whim. That is pretty much catered for now with the “any suspicious deposit” clause.
    The fact that the amount is reported means that there will be follow up.

  187. rickw

    If you’re white, kiss your right to self defence goodbye, it’s gone:

  188. rickw

    Would be good if Antifa could no longer operate with impunity:

  189. Tintarella di Luna

    Or are you shielded in you sunny haven from visitations by the resident bore ?

    . Where, here on Catallaxy? Never! Geriatric Mayfly, I find it (as they say at CNN) surprising, that there be a resident bore here at the Cat, I hadn’t noticed – my scroll-wheel is my sunny haven, so your’s was a missed metaphor for at 7:22am all was tickety-boo for me. Cheers

  190. Professor Fred Lenin

    Rumour has it that a Covid Mohamed Uber driver with three jobs is doing the Old Typhoid Mary Trick in Northern suburbs of Melbourne , he also works in a supermarket and pizza delivery cafe . Wonder if Vicpol are investigating as thoroughly as they did the Pell case ? If so it wont be long before Mohameds medical career is over . Still it does keep Dan Xia Vic out of the light of public scrutiny .

  191. Makka

    So the Lincoln Project is a scam. Fleecing dumb Dimorats;

    A prominent, recently formed anti-Trump political action committee has sent over $3 million in independent expenditures to a firm run by the treasurer of the committee itself, an arrangement that raises the specter of what finance experts refer to as “self-dealing.”

    The Lincoln Project was first formed late last year. The super PAC states on its website that its mission is to “defeat President Trump and Trumpism at the ballot box.” Among the group’s advisers are numerous former Republicans who have publicly broken with the party over its support for Trump.

    The committee is unabashed in its opposition not just to Donald Trump but to any Republican it feels is insufficiently opposed to him.

    “Electing Democrats who support the Constitution over Republicans who do not is a worthy effort,” the group’s website states.

    Though the group was only formed in November, it has already spent a considerable amount of money. Filings indicate it has disbursed well over $4 million in independent expenditures this election cycle so far. Yet the majority of those funds have gone to a single firm, one owned and operated by the Lincoln Project’s own treasurer.

  192. Farmer Gez

    Back for lunch after watching the workman use his big Huski chainsaw to drop a big gum that was threatening to fall on a neighbours sheepyards.

    Big chock cut out, then a back cut and finally the wedges hammered in until you heard the crack.

    Hasty retreat and watch the whole tree crash down. Better than watching the footy these days.

  193. calli

    The Lincoln Project. Isn’t that one of the “from my Inbox to yours” daily dumps?

    So glad I didn’t give them so much as a “click”.

  194. Makka

    The Lincoln Project. Isn’t that one of the “from my Inbox to yours” daily dumps?

    Not sure calli. I bet numbers will know, lol.

  195. jo

    Tw0 -bob-nam comes here for his daily dump. Continues it for most of the day.

  196. Colonel Crispin Berka

    In recognition of the 4 July and since it has been a whole 2 years since the list was last harvested refreshed from this blog, here is…
    – – – –
    ⚖📜 The Unofficial CatallaxyFiles Liberty Quote Browser 📜⚖
    https://pastebin.com/4mceghyT

    Click Pastebin’s little grey “download” link to save the HTML as a web page to your own device, then view it in your browser for handy quotes and talking-points when on-the-go.
    – – – –
    …fresh as at 2 hours ago.

    One minor annoyance I haven’t bothered to solve: Searching for “Puritan” will not find the word “Puritans” as the list is indexed by the whole word, not the theoretical base word. The work around is you can always “Show All” and use your browser’s built in text search instead.

  197. rickw

    Miss Stabby consequences:

  198. egg_

    But I’m not in the business of criticising.

    I am in the business of fixing.”
    https://www.greghunt.com.au/transcript-sky-news-interview-with-chris-kenny/

    Berkeley Hunt’s the biggest jellyback in Gummint.

  199. rickw

    Back for lunch after watching the workman use his big Huski chainsaw to drop a big gum that was threatening to fall on a neighbours sheepyards.

    Big chock cut out, then a back cut and finally the wedges hammered in until you heard the crack.

    Hasty retreat and watch the whole tree crash down. Better than watching the footy these days.

    Tree felling is scary stuff! Google Humbolt Notch, I’ve used it a couple of times, works exactly as advertised.

  200. egg_

    I am in the business of fixing.

    The fix is in?

  201. rickw

    Oh, Worksafe British Columbia has a great series of tree felling safety videos!

  202. egg_

    Chris Turney, incidentally, is now Professor of Climate Change and Earth Science at UNSW, and was recently made a Laureate Fellow of the Australian Research Council.

    Who’d trust an academic to steer a ship, let alone a car?

  203. Nick

    Thanks RickW, that made my day.

  204. rickw

    Eyrie, here’s a vid on the lathe you got, worth watching on things to check. Mine was all good except the tailstock alignment:

  205. JC

    According the Plodes, the resident imbecile pretending to be libertarian, Trump is indistinguishable from Bernie or Pocahontas. Yep he’s totally delusional.

    WH Agenda Will Advance ‘Largest Deregulation Effort in History’

    If the Trump administration were a piece of office equipment, it would be a paper shredder. An industrial-grade, multi-bladed paper shredder.

    Trump is in fact having a deregulatory moment, and the purpose is two-fold. The administration believes that taking a pair of shears to red tape will help beat the coronavirus and simultaneously boost an economic recovery. The president signed an executive order in May to direct agencies across the board to rescind or waive any regulation inhibiting those two purposes.

    It was, a senior administration official remarked at the time, one of the few moments of crisis in history that government rescinded rather than accumulated power. Details of the latest White House Unified Agenda, a semi-annual report first obtained by RealClearPolitics, continue that trend.

    During the pandemic, the administration has taken 740 actions on everything from loosening fuel efficiency requirements to easing telehealth regulations. And the shredder continues to shred, said acting Office of Management and Budget director Russ Vought, telling RCP that nothing has slowed the “largest deregulation effort in modern history.” Vought insisted that the agenda, the eighth and final one issued before the November election, would be the capstone of Trump’s effort to “remove government obstacles that stifle small business growth, while growing our economy and saving American jobs.”

  206. JC

    Most of these things are “recurring” cost cuts.

    Opponents have condemned those actions as irresponsible while supporters credit them with sparking the economy. According to White House numbers, shredding red tape before the pandemic cut regulatory costs by $50 billion. Officials estimated earlier that once those new rules were fully implemented, they would amount to nearly $220 billion in savings. Trump now plans to do more.

    “When the president has a chance to do something on his own directly through executive order, not partnering with Congress, what does he do? His instincts tell him to go back to what has worked in the past,” Anthony Campau, former chief of staff at the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, told RCP in May.

    Trump is God.

  207. Old School Conservative

    Amusing anecdote from the world of academia.

    Grandson is doing a teaching degree, majoring in maths.
    Assessment included 4 tests.
    He was worried about his low marks in each test and was tying to find his weak areas by reviewing the marked papers.
    Found one question where he had answered ’62 children” and was sure the answer was correct. Checked around any everyone came up with the same answer as his.
    Challenged the lecturer.
    Ah ha…..all tests had been computer marked and the numerals “62” were the only correct answer, no words accepted.
    End result – lecturer had to hand mark all students papers for all tests.

    Happy grandson saw significant increase in marks on all tests.

  208. Eyrie

    That’s great, rickw. All I need now is “Lathe work for Dummies”. I’ll look around the net. I’m sure there are how to’s and videos.

  209. Eyrie

    Ok there’s “Machining for Dummies”. I’ll buy it I think.

  210. Farmer Gez

    Tree felling is scary stuff! Google Humbolt Notch, I’ve used it a couple of times, works exactly as advertised.

    The workman’s a mountain man, so I reckon he knows every cutting technique there is. I couldn’t hold up his big chainsaw long enough to do any sort of notch.

  211. egg_

    Deaths are running at 399 per million.
    In Oz, the death rate is 4 per million.

    We haven’t reached the critical mass of sh1tholers?
    Belgium seems to have.

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