Open Forum: July 4, 2020

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  1. Dr Faustus

    Eden Monaro: 20 Albo visits; a flood of Party wukkas; and a huge cash splash = 3% swing against and the seat held with the benefit of ~100 Nationals protest votes.
    A New Hawke.

    If a kindly God reads this blog, please, please cause Tits McPeanut to believe this all means that Australia is desperate for the opportunity to vote William Shorten into the Lodge.
    Leave the rest to him.

  2. Twostix

    If I understand correctly, the far-left Victorian government is currently blockading ghettos in melbourne, ordering the residents to undergo invasive medical tests and, necessarily, will only provide them with food only if they peacefully comply.

    Anyone who ignored the agressive HAHAing and stockpiled over the last few months would be feeling pretty smug now I’d imagine.

  3. calli

    Bother. The BLM shindig is Newcastle is today.

    And now I’m going to miss it. *sob*

  4. bespoke

    C.L.
    #3503921, posted on July 5, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    What’s up? Is Australia provoking China?

  5. MemoryFault

    Anyone who ignored the agressive HAHAing and stockpiled over the last few months would be feeling pretty smug now I’d imagine.

    I can’t help but call to mind all the Cats who had so much fun just a few short months ago, ridiculing Struth for claiming that sooner or later this was going to end with people getting shot.

  6. Tintarella di Luna

    I

    t really sucks when there’s no one you can in conscience vote for

    In the 2016 federal election I nominated on the very last day because I could not in good conscience vote No 1 for any of the knobs on the ballot paper. I know it cost me $500.00 but I at least was at peace with my conscience.

  7. Ed Case

    I understand correctly, the far-left Victorian government is currently blockading ghettos in melbourne, ordering the residents to undergo invasive medical tests and, necessarily, will only provide them with food only if they peacefully comply.

    Training the cops up for the compulsory mass vaxxings later in the year.
    real conservatives would be down in Kensington protesting the Government actions, not sitting at home gloating.

  8. Cassie of Sydney

    “If a kindly God reads this blog, please, please cause Tits McPeanut to believe this all means that Australia is desperate for the opportunity to vote William Shorten into the Lodge.
    Leave the rest to him.”

    Only a matter of time Dr F…I am pretty sure that Chloe still has those curtain measurements and those removalists, booked by Chloe before Saturday 18 May 2018 to move furniture to Canberra, might even offer them a discount.

  9. Some History

    In its final year, the Obama administration instituted a few particularly nasty, baseless antismoking measures. 1) It told particular universities that government grants would dry up if they did not institute campus-wide tobacco bans. 2) Smoking was banned in all government-subsidized housing (HUD). But it’s never, NEVER enough for the tyrants.

    Ethics in Programming : The Project I Refused

    … I was there almost a year when one of the managers sent me an email asking to create a small application. I was getting a lot of requests at the time because everyone knew we contractors were being let go at the end of the month due to budget concerns.

    I was so shocked by what I read that I had to reread the email three times to make sure I understood what they were asking. I called the manager to clarify what exactly they wanted, I’d hoped I misunderstood the email.

    Nope!

    They wanted me to take a list of known U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) addresses and compare that to where our active callers lived. If they lived at a known address the application would report them to our HUD contact.

    Let me break that down. You can’t smoke in HUD facilities it’s against the rules. They wanted an application to report someone trying to get help with their addiction. Which meant they’d get in trouble with their landlord or HUD…

    RTWT

    https://www.thatamazingprogrammer.com/ethics-in-programming/

  10. notafan

    Has someone been shot?

  11. Have people seriously forgotten the 1930s: a resource/trade starved Japan hatching plans for Pearl Harbour; Hitler reclaiming the Rhineland, Austria, Sudetenland and Czech lands, and beginning extermination of the J—-s?
    Is Morrison the new Menzies, cashing in on Cold War fears?

    I find myself agreeing with Latham on this issue, and have posted before about the perfect storm (eerily reminiscent of the late 30s) of an expansionist Asian power, Nationalistic Fascism stirring abroad (in the USA this time, as well as a few european countries such as Hungary) and our own lack of preparedness for any military conflict.
    An additional complication is an increasingly isolationist and chaotic administration in the USA.
    Trouble is, Latham is very good at calling out the problems, but seems to lack any idea of what can be done to solve them.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    Perhaps, using the theory advanced by various punters that we absolutely must import hundreds of thousands of somebody, we may have been better served bringing in Roof Koreans.

  13. calli

    This story appears to have some inconvenient features.

    The driver will be treated the same way as the McCloskeys of course. Considering he did actual harm.

  14. Have a lamb chop and eggs.

    Bear!
    On a tear! 😃
    I found some cheese on my auto shopping tour this morning.
    No breakfast.
    On my third beer.
    Sausages in bread w/cheese, sauce&mustard for afternoon tea I reckon.
    Drove straight past KD&Barry waving my 8 pack of snags out the window and did a burnout as I left.
    BTFO hotdog dudes!

  15. notafan

    Traditionalists with few exceptions comply with the social distancing rules.

    The French didn’t even bother with the banlieus.

    Dan Andrews thinks he’s smarter than the French.

    And it was his government’s decision to put members of these communities in charge of security..

    Seems like every outbreak has been the result of government bungling.

    And they are testing, because most people with covid aren’t sick.

  16. The BLM shindig is Newcastle is today.

    Bruce, get down there with the phone film!

  17. notafan

    Calli

    I read he entered the road the wrong way up a ramp.

    Don’t know why no substances involved.

  18. Dave in Marybrook

    Tits is under heavy haulage from the ABC at the mo… and the Australian is giving him a byline for columns all of a sudden.

  19. C.L.

    I find myself agreeing with Latham on this issue …

    You’re actually disagreeing with Latham.
    He is saying the contemporary world is nothing remotely like the 1930s.

    There is hysteria everywhere right now. The Australian newspaper has lost its collective marbles.

  20. Someone already posted The WHO chicky explaining that the Kung Flu isn’t transmitted from asymptomatic infected didn’t they?
    Unreal.
    Why aren’t we marching on Dan’s house with flaming torches&nooses? Real ones, not Jussie fakes…
    #Viccolyfe

  21. notafan

    I don’t know Rickw, slavery complicates the American experience.

    But there isn’t a lot to recommend importing people whose life experience doesn’t include even basics like stairs.

    Culturally incompatible with the West which they often come from r ape pillage society.

    I remember reading an article here about the impact of the cow dowry requirements in Southern Sudan.

    I want it I take it.

  22. John A

    notafan #3503714, posted on July 5, 2020, at 8:30 am

    Dan is flattening the curve.

    On the contrary, he’s flattened the PDR of Viktoriastan.

  23. Even if we add Wuhan Flu with any of the other influenzas, we’re still WAY under the curve.
    Lol
    Nasty fly’s BTFO!
    As usual, the Leftist operation will boomerang on them massively. Loads of normies getting red pilled right now.
    Thanks Dan/antifa!
    We need to support all our DIY lathe crew in all ways.
    Those MG42’s, and the buried AK’s, are all going to be needed in quantity.
    Sydney Boy can help with the arsenal heists for heavier gear.
    It’s gonna be sik.
    #Boogaloo

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m not going into the Peoples’ Republic of Inner Newcastle. When I want a good solid dose of fantasy and science fiction I read a novel.

  25. rick, how hard is a STG44 going to be to make?
    Asking for some friends.

  26. C.L.

    There is no actual crisis in Victoria.
    Nobody is dying and hardly anybody will die.
    Andrews (and others) locked themselves into the “new cases” criterion for winning the ‘war’ on coronavirus and now they’re lumbered with it.

    You cannot shut down society, the economy, the courts, the Parliament and freedom itself because a few people are going to die.

  27. notafan

    Yes CL

    With the exception of some addicts, tower residents are not an at risk demographic.

    This is theatre.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of fiction reminds me. FTA tele is pretty dire tonight with the exception of SBS: two good movies! Worth mentioning because of the WIP, so I’ve added the WIP links:

    SBS Viceland 8:30pm: Star Trek: The Motion Picture
    SBS World Movies 8:30pm: Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World

    The WIP is fun!

  29. areff

    I’ll never get a piece in Quadrant.

    The editing there is second to none.

    And thanks, KD, for the full story on Kensington’s battle of the carpark. The official version, as I recalled it, was that a bottle was thrown at a passing divvie van, and when police approached to discuss ballistics and Australian cultural norms, the locals went all Ugandan (as Private Eye used to put it) Yours makes a lot more sense.

    I’ve posted this link before, but it helps to explain why, when skinny New Australians were wrecking a Werribee house and street, the forces of law and order allowed them to continue.

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2018/01/african-crime-lions-unleashed-donkeys/

  30. Cassie of Sydney

    “Dave in Marybrook
    #3503975, posted on July 5, 2020 at 1:00 pm
    Tits is under heavy haulage from the ABC at the mo… and the Australian is giving him a byline for columns all of a sudden.”

    I feel a bit sorry for Tits…he’s got Lady Chloe, daughter of a Republican dame, pressuring him. Chloe is still furious about the loss last year….am pretty sure that Lady Chloe thinks that it is her right to be lodged in the lodge.

  31. areff

    CL: a decent opposition would be stressing the fact that no one is dying in Victoria, despite clusters, outbreaks, eruptions and wotnots, and framing the state’s economic ruin in terms of a crooked and deceitful premier refusing to acknowledge that he threw a panic fit and cannot bring himself to admit error.

    Sadly, while the opposition benches are occupied, they might as well not be.

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Drove straight past KD&Barry waving my 8 pack of snags out the window and did a burnout as I left.
    BTFO hotdog dudes!’

    Said the man who’s never seen a lemur cry.

    This bastard country.

  33. Nick

    Cassie, she had bought all the dresses and had the Women’s Weekly spread all ready.

  34. incoherent rambler

    the Women’s Weekly spread

    The Women’s Weekly, spread
    or
    The Women’s, Weekly spread

    ???

  35. cohenite

    This story appears to have some inconvenient features.

    A black guy in a jaguar trying to get away from protests enters a street the wrong way, knocks down 2 white women protesting blm who were blocking the road. Perfectly normal. And the black guy gets charged with assault, which if one of the white women dies, will be upgraded to murder.

  36. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nick
    #3504004, posted on July 5, 2020 at 1:22 pm
    Cassie, she had bought all the dresses and had the Women’s Weekly spread all ready.”

    Yep…poor Tits…he’s under a lot of pressure.

  37. Nick

    IR, some spreads are better than others

  38. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘the Women’s Weekly spread’

    Because it’s Sunday, decorum prevents me from saying PHRASING.

  39. Infidel Tiger King

    the Women’s Weekly spread

    Preferable to appearing Picture Magazine’s Home Girls spread.

  40. Maman

    Kanye West running for President USA 2020 ???????????

  41. Nick

    I could have said ‘full colour spread mode
    Worth pondering

  42. cohenite

    I’ve posted this link before, but it helps to explain why, when skinny New Australians were wrecking a Werribee house and street, the forces of law and order allowed them to continue.
    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2018/01/african-crime-lions-unleashed-donkeys/

    I was betting on a war with the RoP, then the chunks displaced that now a race war seems imminent. I’m all warred out.

  43. cohenite

    I find myself agreeing with Latham on this issue …

    You’re actually disagreeing with Latham.

    The troll is so stupid.

  44. Perhaps, using the theory advanced by various punters that we absolutely must import hundreds of thousands of somebody, we may have been better served bringing in Roof Koreans.

    And –

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3503876, posted on July 5, 2020 at 11:31

    These, ladies and gentlemen, are textbook examples of stereotropes – not the optical instrument.
    It’s a well used recipe.
    The ingredients are bigotry, ignorance and intolerance.
    They are mixed with fear and hate, and beat up into some kind of narrative.
    Violence, or descriptions of it, are essential, and there are always goodies and baddies.
    These narratives appeal to adolescents, much in the same way popularised by Boys Own Tales back in the day.
    Generally, once into adulthood, most people lose interest.
    But this is Catallaxy, the domain of arrested development.

  45. Tiger – you’ve never shagged a Picture girl, have you?
    😎
    #surferlyfe

  46. Kristy McBain has declared victory.

  47. Fisky

    Haha! Boris announces total root and branch ripping out of Huawei on July 4. Awesome messaginf
    g. Terrible day for pro-CCP losers!

  48. decorum prevents me from saying PHRASING.

    Stop that.
    Kittehs would never engage in that kind of thing!
    Lord Bless Our Sinful Hearts!

  49. Infidel Tiger King

    Tiger – you’ve never shagged a Picture girl, have you?
    😎
    #surferlyfe

    Nah just a couple of slappers from Country Life and Horse & Hound.

  50. cohenite

    SFF and the nats gave EM to the liars.

  51. vr

    The driver will be treated the same way as the McCloskeys of course. Considering he did actual harm.

    What’s missing is that he was a POC.

  52. cohenite

    The troll goes wascist because suds shitting the punters and the system in victoristan.

  53. hzhousewife

    am pretty sure that Lady Chloe thinks that it is her right to be lodged in the lodge.

    She should run for office then.

  54. Kanye? No way.
    It’s going to be a Noem/Crenshaw ticket.

  55. Mark A

    (in the USA this time, as well as a few european countries such as Hungary)

    I hnestly wish you’d lay off commenting on things you have no knowledge of.

    I don’t care about the US (not that you are accurate about them either), go ahead but leave Hungary alone.

    Nothing right wing about that government, it’s just that the left moved so far left that any other view is “far right” for them.
    Germany is far more of a danger to peace again and to the joo..s in particular than any other country.

  56. bespoke

    areff
    #3503995, posted on July 5, 2020 at 1:15 pm
    I’ll never get a piece in Quadrant.

    The editing there is second to none.

    When they start doing power tool reviews I’ll subscribe.

  57. slappers from Country Life

    Hahaha
    Love it

  58. Infidel Tiger King

    Maybe next year Ye will be President and DJT will drop an album and a sneaker line?

    In America anything is possible.

  59. Good question. I thought I was pretty good at keeping up with the news but perhaps not.

    notafan
    #3503947, posted on July 5, 2020 at 12:51 pm
    Has someone been shot?

  60. I’m glad you’ve reverted from crustacean form, Tiger.
    The betting markets are following your prawn gut feeling pretty closely.
    #cassandra
    #BetNow

  61. Beachcomber

    C.L. at 1:08 pm

    There is no actual crisis in Victoria.
    Nobody is dying and hardly anybody will die.

    Is anybody even ill?, apart from having a common cold or seasonal flu.

    It is all based on meaningless “test results”. It is interesting that Dr Annaliese van Diemen, Andrews’ Deputy Chief Health Officer is very prominent in all this. The Universities have been very successful with her and I expect she will be trying have us all put on house arrest.

  62. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nothing right wing about that government, it’s just that the left moved so far left that any other view is “far right” for them.
    Germany is far more of a danger to peace again and to the joo..s in particular than any other country.”

    Well said Mark A…..you are 100% right. And Orban is very pro Joooish and pro Israel. The Joooish community in Hungary is growing again…it is one of the safest in Europe. It is a lot safer for a Joooish man to walk around Budapest wearing a yarmulke than for him to walk around Paris or Berlin. And I wonder why that is? Well…it isn’t hard….because of a specific Joooo hating religious ideology that you now find in abundance in Paris and Berlin….a religious ideology that Orban and Hungarians don’t want in their country and good on them.

  63. At least you would’ve got some nice scones after.
    Not have to share your stash with the sugar baby…
    A girl I was shagging for about 1i months is a camgirl now. Graduated from vet nurse.
    Lol
    It’s weird watching her clips on Pornhub.
    😎
    #keithmillerhighlyfe

  64. That would be a good pairing.

    The Dems should go with the Mayor’s of Seattle and Chicago. AG the DA from St Louis who wants to charge homeowners for defending their own property. Home Land Security de Blasio.

    Tailgunner
    #3504038, posted on July 5, 2020 at 1:51 pm
    Kanye? No way.
    It’s going to be a Noem/Crenshaw ticket.

  65. C.L.

    Quadrant now is better than ever.
    Alone, Windschuttle’s work on the Pell travesty would win him the equivalent of a Pulitizer in a just nation. Australia is not that nation. The Walkleys are for contributions to lying.

    The magazine has changed my own understanding of things too. I used to scoff at poetry, for example, but after Clive James died, I took the time to read some of his poems and his essays on poetry. I really cannot begin to describe how profoundly brilliant James was; and Les Murray. As a prose hack, you suddenly realise what you are: Jimmy Carter (at best) looking up at Mount Rushmore.

  66. Some History

    Dr Annaliese van Diemen, Andrews’ Deputy Chief Health Officer

    Dead-pan.

    https://imgur.com/CMBhvXO

  67. Cassie of Sydney

    “I hnestly wish you’d lay off commenting on things you have no knowledge of.”

    Mark A…then there wouldn’t be anything for the ghastly troll to comment on….he knows nothing about anything. Strange little man.

  68. Is anybody even ill?,

    Lol!
    Only businesses.
    The sheeple are still in their stalls.
    But they now have a different look in their sheeple eyes.
    Red Pill I’d still too hard to take.
    But they know.
    30% I reckon. Maybe more.
    That’s plenty of deplorables. We’ll Win in the end.
    Make Straya Great Again
    #MSGA

  69. Cassie of Sydney

    “C.L.
    #3504056, posted on July 5, 2020 at 2:03 pm
    Quadrant now is better than ever.”

    Yep…it is superb reading. Am very glad I subscribe.

  70. Beachcomber

    areff at 1:19 pm

    ……. a decent opposition would be stressing the fact that no one is dying in Victoria, despite clusters, outbreaks, eruptions and wotnots, and framing the state’s economic ruin in terms of a crooked and deceitful premier refusing to acknowledge that he threw a panic fit and cannot bring himself to admit error.

    Sadly, while the opposition benches are occupied, they might as well not be.

    This is why our society is in such mortal peril. Everything Statist and Cultural Marxist, including the vicious charade of Covid-1984, is supported and promoted by the ABC-Media Ministry of Truth. There is no one in the Establishment who has the ability or even the inclination to challenge the assaults on Reason and decency.

  71. incoherent rambler

    Is anybody even ill?,

    yep
    mentally ill politicians and police.

    twenny sumfink people in hospital with woofloo

  72. Dead-pan

    Some sicko here was suggesting I game her on to the couch and film it for proof of ass bruising.
    FFS.

    Hair above the chin, subversion from within
    I’m prepared to sacrifice much for the war effort.
    But not that.

  73. And, rumour says, that Weaponized Autism is now being deployed against BLM.
    Go Lads!
    #DraftOurDaughters

  74. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Graham Richardson, over at the Oz, sez Eden Monaro should have been a comfortable Labor victory, but Kristy MacBain suffered a three percent swing against her, and picked up the seat on SFF preferences.

  75. Mark A

    I used to scoff at poetry, for example, but after Clive James died, I took the time to read some of his poems and his essays on poetry.

    Love C J but poetry I cannot stand.
    Specially the kind that rhymes, shudder.

  76. It’s a mirror.
    The original was banned.

  77. JC

    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    ·
    Jun 30
    After a 15 minute lecture from Paul Barry on how invaluable the ABC is: high quality, trusted service, blah, blah, the imbecile Virginia Trioli starts the next show by introducing a young lady as a “Rooter, writer and youth advocate”.
    Put these jokesters out of their misery!!

  78. incoherent rambler

    Specially the kind that rhymes, shudder.

    There was lady from Caracas ..

  79. Des Deskperson

    ‘Graham Richardson, over at the Oz, sez Eden Monaro should have been a comfortable Labor victory, but Kristy MacBain suffered a three percent swing against her, and picked up the seat on SFF preferences.’

    What’s interesting is the 3% swing against the Greens, surprising given the significant pockets of posh warmists, as well as ferals, across the electorate and the climate change = bushfires schtick. It will be interesting to see how Braidwood voted.

  80. In all this communist soy Troubles, Trump has been accelerating massively.
    He’d bringing on the Paradigm Shift.
    Ever wonder what would activate the normies?
    Hahaha
    7D chess
    Phew!

  81. Riccardo needed a street level agitprop outfit.
    I know some crew that can provide this kind of service. Little night missions are a speciality.

  82. candy

    People voted some jobseeker appeciation naturally. Not everyone bites the hand that feeds them.

  83. calli

    As a prose hack

    You don’t do too badly, C.L. 😀

  84. Cassie of Sydney

    “‘Graham Richardson, over at the Oz, sez Eden Monaro should have been a comfortable Labor victory, but Kristy MacBain suffered a three percent swing against her, and picked up the seat on SFF preferences.’”

    It should have been a shoe in…but it wasn’t. Quite embarrassing for Albanese.

  85. areff

    Don’t hide your light under a bushel, CL

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    I see the weak screechy old man with an aspirational Masters in Principle Abandonment seized the latest opportunity to hit the berley and chirp about narratives:

    ‘much in the same way popularised by Boys Own Tales’

    I haven’t read Four Leaf Tayback’s own Boys Own Tale, but I know people who have. Here’s a piece from the Boys’ Own Narrative – it’s naturally dull as dogshit, but bear with me.

    ‘“What did worry us were warnings from people who had travelled on the Sydney before; that the sailors (“matelots” as we called them), world steal our gear, particularly our GP boots.

    ‘I don’t remember any reports of this happening and believe that it was a rumour spread to tighten up the care taken with kit, as interservice rivalry couldn’t live with the embarrassment of expensive
    (and latest-issue) kit being mislaid. As far as I can remember, army and navy had practically nothing to do with each other and both services were happy with this.”’

    Which, and in the spirit of pointing out falsehoods and undue white-knighting, is contrasted by this response to a poster right here on the Cat:

    1735099
    #703583, posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    ‘You must have been a sailor once. The last time I was subjected to such sanctimonious claptrap was from a matelot who’d been caught nicking our gear on the “Sydney”. He also indulged in paralysis by analysis in an attempt to distract from the matter at hand.

    ‘At least he wasn’t obviously dismissive and paternalistic in his attitude to those of a different race – which was fortunate, as my section commander was West Indian.’*

    It didn’t happen, except when it did. Or did it? It was a rumour, except it wasn’t because it also actually happened. According to a ‘primary source’. Lies, lies, a farrago of concoction.

    And as GPs are mentioned, it need hardly be said that the old coward wasn’t in the Army long enough to wear out his first pair.

    *h/t Hazmatic

  87. custard

    Why am I not surprised the SFF helped get the filth over the line in E-M.
    Didn’t they vote recently in NSW to block the government’s attempt at freezing/blocking rises in PS wages?

  88. Dr Faustus

    In I’ve got another plan – this time it’ll work news:

    Victoria Police Association secretary Wayne Gatt said there had been few instructions and very little planning and police were “flying by the seat of our pants”.

    The Government needs to move to turn words into a safe and orderly plan otherwise all we will have done is replace the fiasco that was security guards in hotels with one that becomes police in housing commission flats,” he said.

    Victorians: You’re all in this on your own.

  89. bespoke

    Spittle guards at the local servo have been removed.

  90. incoherent rambler

    Victorians: You’re all in this on your own.

    Viktoristanis: You’re all in this up to your chins.
    When the shit level reaches chin height, do not make waves!

  91. egg_

    Sunday’s rally, highlighting the impact of racism on Indigenous justice and health, is predicted to draw about 500 people to Newcastle’s Civic Park about 1pm, with speeches and a march to Pacific Park to follow.

    All the Uni numpties in one place!

  92. BoN:

    Peter MF – I like the system, but I was stuck in the last couple of state elections because I couldn’t even get as far as the “1”. It really sucks when there’s no one you can in conscience vote for. And I don’t have that high a threshold.

    I’d like a system where we could vote for no one, and if no one got the most votes, that seat stayed empty.
    I reckon in a couple of elections there wouldn’t even be a quorum in Parliament.
    🙂

  93. Dave in Marybrook

    Set your bar lower, CL.
    I’m cock-a-hoop that the Oz prints my arts gripes every now and then.

  94. egg_

    A lot of ‘right wing’ economic stuff seems to be ‘free’ trade with starvation wages (close to slavery in some cases) countries with a good dose of McKinsey’s downsize/offshore/outsource guff. Basically screw productive working people. Case in point- NAFTA.

    They seem to be stuck in the Ford/Rockefeller models of a Century ago.

  95. egg_

    Victoriastan in Lockdan. He’s gone from flattening the curve to curbing the soviet-style flats.

    Flattening the herds seems to be his latest cunning plan, Comrade!

  96. Dr Faustus

    In Conveniently Sub Judice news:

    We now know the current outbreak is at least in part due to major failures in the hotel quarantine program in Melbourne.

    But what exactly went wrong?

    We’re still in large part in the dark, because the Victorian Government is unwilling to talk about the failures while a judicial review is conducted.

    Perhaps some other state governments would like to know sooner if there are lessons to be learned.

    Justice Coate’s report is due by Friday, 25 September 2020.
    It would obviously be wrong, very wrong indeed, to second guess her “thorough and independent inquiry”. Any ‘lessons’ can wait for six weeks – it’s not as though there’s a pandemic going on.

  97. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Why am I not surprised the SFF helped get the filth over the line in E-M.
    Didn’t they vote recently in NSW to block the government’s attempt at freezing/blocking rises in PS wages?

    Yep.
    That was due to the negotiating skills of steely-eyed master negotiator Gladys.
    The SFL government negotiated that one really well. (hah)
    Cut the PS salary – use the “savings” on infrastructure spending.
    None of the “savings” were to be spent outside the Sydney metropolitan area.

    The SFL govt, in negotiation with SFF, refused to so much as fill in a pothole outside the Sydney metro area.
    No mystery why SFF did not support the govt bill.

  98. Tintarella di Luna

    after Clive James died, I took the time to read some of his poems and his essays on poetry. I really cannot begin to describe how profoundly brilliant James was; and Les Murray.

    CL have you read Clive James’ translation of the Devine Comedy? Words fail to describe what he’s achieved.

  99. MemoryFault

    I’d like a system where we could vote for no one, and if no one got the most votes, that seat stayed empty. I reckon in a couple of elections there wouldn’t even be a quorum in Parliament.
    🙂

    That’s a keeper, Winston.
    May I borrow it for a bit of levity on my “Firing Your Local Member Rocks” website?

  100. Tintarella di Luna

    No mystery why SFF did not support the govt bill.

    . nor did One Nation and the Greens

  101. egg_

    Prior to the last Victoristan election, I asked the Liberal candidate in my electorate what they would do about the closure of Hazelwood.

    Answer: What is Hazelwood?

    What was their Gender?

  102. rickw:

    Australia is making the same mistake the USA made 300 years ago, it will end just as badly but sooner. There is clearly something at work here, 300 years separated and only a small percentage don’t behave in the same African / tribal / brutal fashion.
    I can’t help conclude that it’s in the DNA, like a cat trying to become a dog, 300 years of intensive work and the freaking thing is still a cat.

    It’s more likely culture, rick.
    But if the dNA is only ever exposed to that particular culture then the outcome will remain the same.

  103. EvilElvis

    That’s plenty of deplorables. We’ll Win in the end.
    Make Straya Great Again
    #MSGA

    TG trying to explain to his next crackhead conquest how you pronounce TLGNRSDPLRBLSMSGA…

  104. incoherent rambler

    What was their Gender?

    Female. Late 40s.

  105. Dr Faustus

    Albanese whistling in the dark:

    “What is extraordinary here, given the circumstances, we’ve achieved this result,” he said. “It is a very favourable result for us.”

    “It was an against the odds victory…

    If you would, pass me the brown trousers…

  106. cohenite

    Zion Lights now Tree, former extinction rebellion fuckwit has seen the light and gave a reasonable account of herself (I think Zion is a woman) on Outsiders this morning and argued against cutting back energy demand and for nuclear.

  107. cohenite

    rickw:
    Australia is making the same mistake the USA made 300 years ago, it will end just as badly but sooner. There is clearly something at work here, 300 years separated and only a small percentage don’t behave in the same African / tribal / brutal fashion.
    I can’t help conclude that it’s in the DNA, like a cat trying to become a dog, 300 years of intensive work and the freaking thing is still a cat.
    It’s more likely culture, rick.

    Sociobiology states that culture and society is inextricably linked to DNA. But don’t argue that or you’ll end up like professor Drew Fraser who believes cognitive and athletic abilities, testosterone and “impulse control” vary according to race, and “civilisations” should look after their own.

  108. rickw

    Eyrie,

    Emailed you the .STL files for the gears and details on how to set up.

  109. Ed Case

    Considering Scotty gave people access to Twenty Grand of their Super plus raised the Dole by $275/week,
    something Labor wouldn’t do in a million years, it wasn’t a bad result for Albanese.
    Perhaps the Barilaro/McCormack/Constance Kerfuffle early on didn’t help Fiona Kotvojs.

  110. rickw

    The STG44 video.
    For JC, and other firearm Cats…

    An Assault Rifle!!

    Grandpa Assault Rifle!

  111. rickw

    It’s more likely culture, rick.

    I don’t think so. They’ve been sheep dipped in Western culture for 300 years.

  112. Rockdoctor

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3504117, posted on July 5, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    Pretty well how I remember it went down too. After siding with an inner city extremist to ambush the state with late term abortion, the bushfires debacle that was a result of Matt Kean’s policies, health Hazzards Ruby Princess debacle etc. Trust in Gladys is not at an all time high especially those of is who are just beyond 2hrs from Sydney.

  113. Rockdoctor

    Gawd I hate predictive text delete is.

  114. kaysee

    dover_beach
    #3502239, posted on July 3, 2020 at 7:32 am

    dover, links worked, read the essays.
     
    It seems as if those who sit on judicial benches, especially of the highest court in the land, are governed by self-interest rather than the proper interpretation of the law. Especially, the CJ on SCOTUS (and here, as we see in the Heydon case).
     
    Judicial humility, via the classical approach, involving a broader section of views, would be particularly valuable where benches have swinging justices.

    …..the classical legal tradition, that holds that law is an ordinance of reason, made by one who has care for the community, and which is promulgated.

  115. P

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_LkIA_Oeus

    While watching this I thought of Alfred Hitchcock’s “North by Northwest”

  116. Mark A:

    Germany is far more of a danger to peace again and to the joo..s in particular than any other country.

    Can you expand on that a bit please Mark?
    Just curious to hear the reasoning.

  117. rickw

    Guy cleaned up his LeBlonde lathe, decent condition, BUT, servo shift model which may or may not be still functioning!

    https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/box-hill/miscellaneous-goods/3-phase-machines-lathe-milling-machine-shaping-machine/1251659656

  118. rickw

    Oh, also LeBlonde Makino which most probably means it was built in Singapore rather than USA.

  119. kaysee

    Continuing…..
     
    A 4-minute video explaining the political spectrum.
    In the modern political world, the terms ‘left-wing’ and ‘right-wing’ can often be heard and misunderstood. But what do these terms mean and where do they come from?
     

  120. max

    Quadrant really started to get rolling after the Robert Manne editorial chair was converted to ol’ sparky.
    Appointing a combative but unideological poetry editor was a good follow up. His pickings were always the first part I’d turn to but I quite understand why others preferred other sections. It’s a good sign when people read the magazine for such different reasons.

    Last week an outraged NSW Green was complaining on the ABC that, in the leadup to the last election, Gladys had allocated sports and community development grants exclusively to coalition seats. How dare she !

    No mention of subsidies to exclusively lefty magazines like Overland and SFA to Quadrant.

  121. candy

    “It was an against the odds victory…

    I think Albanese is correct with that. PM Morrison has massive popularity and approval, more than KRudd, I think. Massive military spend policy just days before to capitalise on worries re security issues with China.

    The LNP should have been a shoo-in. Something is holding voters back.

  122. kaysee

    The Political Spectrum 😺
     
    One
     
    Two
     
    Three

  123. Tel

    We now know the current outbreak is at least in part due to major failures in the hotel quarantine program in Melbourne.

    Same deal as the Spanish Flu where Melbourne was the weak link letting it into Australia despite a coordinated maritime quarantine effort. Then in January 1919, Melbourne let the side down and adding insult to injury they shuffled their feet and carefully avoided notifying anyone until it had already spread into other states. That makes strike two.

  124. Cassie of Sydney

    “The LNP should have been a shoo-in. Something is holding voters back.”

    What! No…sorry, in a by-election like Eden-Monaro, an always marginal electorate, it was Labor that should have been a shoo-in. There was a swing against Labor Candy.

  125. egg_

    Anyone who ignored the agressive HAHAing and stockpiled over the last few months would be feeling pretty smug now I’d imagine.

    How much do you stockpile?

    If you’re not brainwashed by “the fresh food people” with green stuff moulding away in the crisper drawer, you’ll have long life milk and canned baked beans, even if the cvnts cut the power!

  126. Nick

    WTF Is Grace Jones’ brother sitting on the Richmond bench, with an Essendon striped haircut?

  127. Memory Vault:

    That’s a keeper, Winston.
    May I borrow it for a bit of levity on my “Firing Your Local Member Rocks” website?

    Certainly, MV. I was only semi joking when I first put it up, but on reflection, it seems like a good idea..

  128. egg_

    What was their Gender?

    Female. Late 40s.

    As suspected.
    A numpty who wouldn’t know where her electrons came from, but big on “social issues”?

  129. Roger

    It’s more likely culture, rick. But if the dNA is only ever exposed to that particular culture then the outcome will remain the same.

    It’s culture, and culture is downstream from religion.

    Blacks in the UK from a Caribbean background but now third generation British are more likely to go to university than their white peers. They also outperform whites in school testing. And I’d wager that intact family structures and a culture informed by devout Christianity has more to do with this result than any affirmative action policies.

  130. Top Ender

    Happy 4th of July, Americans!

    Blue Angels Over Mount Rushmore! Salute to America 2020

  131. egg_

    Sunday’s rally, highlighting the impact of racism on Indigenous justice and health, is predicted to draw about 500 people to Newcastle’s Civic Park about 1pm, with speeches and a march to Pacific Park to follow.

    Complete with Coronaswarthies making lattes in tents?

  132. notafan

    I’d also mention that most African Americans have a fair slab of European in them.

    That long essay someone linked about poor sharecroopers from the South being the remainers in Chicago’ south side and other ghettos was quite informative.

    The destructive of the family and in particular the absence of fathers seems to me more likely to the heart of the problem

  133. candy

    There was a swing against Labor Candy.

    That’s what I mean, Cassie. The swing should definitely have been against Labor but also enough for LNP to win comfortably, after the handling of corona, jobseeker, jobkeeper, the help to home owners, and tax concessions businesses, and help with to renters, people with mortgages. It was all there.

  134. Cassie of Sydney

    “Blacks in the UK from a Caribbean background but now third generation British are more likely to go to university than their white peers. They also outperform whites in school testing. And I’d wager that intact family structures and a culture informed by devout Christianity has more to do with this result than any affirmative action policies.”

    Roger, funny you mention this….David Starkey, in his excellent interview last week on Reasoned…which has since led to his cancellation and complete eradication from British society….said, in his critique of BLM, that it no relevance to the the British Caribbean story in the UK. Starkey said (accurately) that the worst aspects of American African American culture had been imported to the UK and of course, BLM is one aspect of that…along with Rap music and other very ugly imports from the USA. He’s right of course. The British Caribbean story is totally different to the history of blacks in the US.

  135. areff

    So, Jenny “Slow Coach” Coate is to report on the hotel quarantine fiasco, report scheduled for September.

    I will take bets it’s months later, based on the Rob Hulls appointee’s Black Saturday performance.

    In September — September! – seven months after the fires, families were screaming to get their loved ones’ bodies released.

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/coroner-delays-release-of-bushfire-bodies

    As noted earlier, if you want to delay something embarrassing, get Jenny on the job.

  136. areff

    By way of comparison, every single victim of the 1939 fires was buried within 10 days.

  137. Archivist

    C.L.

    You’re actually disagreeing with Latham.
    He is saying the contemporary world is nothing remotely like the 1930s.

    Is he? Maybe he is, but the question “Have people forgotten the 1930s?” sounds like he is suggesting that the period’s relevance is overlooked because it has been ‘forgotten’.
    I guess you took him to mean – “the 1930s had much clearer signals of impending war” – but I’m not sure that’s the case.

    Let’s see. A new major industrial power is a hypernationalist fascist state, that is conquering nearby territories, establishing puppet regimes, undertaking a massive military buildup, has implemented a police state, is putting minorities in concentration camps, and is openly talking about further regional conquest. That sounds… familiar.

    But on the other hand, just as the media went from “nothing to see here” to full-blown hysteria with covid-19 (both of which were unwarranted), maybe they’re doing the same thing on this topic.

  138. calli

    Not bad. Five thousand, according to police.

    Almost everyone in attendance wore face masks. Many people carried signs demanding justice and an end to racism as Indigenous and non-Indigenous people of all ages gathered in support of the global Black Lives Matter movement, in response to Floyd’s death.

    Okay. Sure.

  139. calli

    Oh. And they “Social Distanced” too.

    Just like we did at church this morning. Except we really did.

  140. Roger

    Roger, funny you mention this…

    I came across the statistics and posted them here some time back, Cassie.

    The destructive of the family and in particular the absence of fathers seems to me more likely to the heart of the problem

    Spot on. As someone once said, the Great Society did what slavery and Jim Crow couldn’t – it destroyed the African-American family.

  141. calli

    And now I wait….

    😁

  142. Armadillo

    The Caribbean was basically inhabited by mainland American Indians (mainly from Florida). In the case of Barbados, it wasn’t inhabited by anyone. Zippo. Zilch.

    Viv Richards and his ilk invaded it latter on.

  143. Cassie of Sydney

    “Spot on. As someone once said, the Great Society did what slavery and Jim Crow couldn’t – it destroyed the African-American family.”

    Yep. Utterly tragic.

  144. Roger

    The British Caribbean story is totally different to the history of blacks in the US.

    Indeed; as is the story of aborigines here as well as South Sea Islanders in Queensland.

    But there seems to be a new post-modern ethnicity being developed known as ‘Black’. Interestingly, jourmalism students in the US are taught to capitalise ‘Black’ while leaving ‘white’ all in lower case, the rationale being that black is an ethnicity while white merely describes the skin colour of people of NW European origins. The upshot is that a ‘Black’ American has more in common with a black African than with his white fellow citizens. This is nothing but a recipe for division and hate.

  145. egg_

    “Spot on. As someone once said, the Great Society did what slavery and Jim Crow couldn’t – it destroyed the African-American family.”

    “All the way with LBJ!”.

  146. Cassie of Sydney

    “The Caribbean was basically inhabited by mainland American Indians (mainly from Florida). In the case of Barbados, it wasn’t inhabited by anyone. Zippo. Zilch.

    Viv Richards and his ilk invaded it latter on.”

    Did you mean Bermuda? Barbados had a pre-Columban / pre- British indigenous population. Bermuda did not.

  147. DrBeauGan

    Our culture is a gift but it’s not being received,” Brian Dowd told the crowd.

    Your culture is beating your wives and reyping your children. Of course it’s not being received.

  148. Armadillo

    Almost everyone in attendance wore face masks.

    The intrepid reporter should have looked at the photograph before scribing that.

  149. egg_

    A black guy in a jaguar trying to get away from protests enters a street the wrong way, knocks down 2 white women protesting blm who were blocking the road. Perfectly normal. And the black guy gets charged with assault, which if one of the white women dies, will be upgraded to murder.

    Reality bites virtue signallers.

  150. Ed Case

    Spot on. As someone once said, the Great Society did what slavery and Jim Crow couldn’t – it destroyed the African-American family.

    Thomas Sowell?
    Doesn’t matter, still wrong.
    FDRs farm policies forced millions of black farmers off their land in The South and into the northern cities.
    WW2 labor shortages added to the numbers headed north.
    Jim Crow actually worked for blacks. They had their own towns, suburbs, businesses, schools, tradesmen, professionals.
    Integration destroyed the economic base of the black family, welfare is just a poor substitute for what was taken away by the do gooders.

  151. Viva

    Have people forgotten the 1930s?”

    A big mistake apparently was letting Hitler get away with remilitiarising the Rhineland as one of his first moves. Today’s equivalent was letting Xi get way with miliatiarising the South China Sea.

  152. Bruce of Newcastle

    Blacks in the UK from a Caribbean background but now third generation British are more likely to go to university than their white peers. They also outperform whites in school testing.

    That’s my family. Grandad was a prof. My distant cousin who I met a couple times was a prof at UWI. When I visited the wider family in Jamaica were seriously impressive people. We got on very well, played cricket in the backyard with his son!

    My cousin when we visited Kingston first drove us past the poorer areas so we would know how ordinary people lived. I appreciated that greatly.

    Unfortunately Jamaica has succumbed to the same Marxist-populist disease as everywhere.

  153. egg_

    Almost everyone in attendance wore face masks.

    Only the uber virtue signallers – young women and rich old white men.

  154. Armadillo

    Barbados had a pre-Columban / pre- British indigenous population.

    Terra Nullius. Roughly translates as man with ships and guns makes rules.

  155. Rockdoctor

    Sorry Cali, I see figures from the green left wets that masquerade as journalists at 5000 and immediately halve to work out anything near what is the probable.

    Sad to say I switch off when I hear BLM or indigenous disadvantage now unless it comes from someone like Bess Price. The welcome to country/acknowledgement stuff I now roll my eyes openly. I just don’t care anymore, they have more avenues to get ahead despite being 200m behind at the starters gun in life then I ever dreamed of and they are still aggrieved. Going round in life with a chip on ones shoulder doesn’t earn respect. My 2c worth anyway.

  156. bespoke

    Good doco but the commentary doesn’t match the footage in some places. Showing captured Germans while explaining the setbacks paratroopers faced.

  157. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Jim Crow actually worked for blacks.’

    The troll – the whiiiite whaaaaale – actually said this.

  158. Roger

    Interesting perspective, Ed, but I suggest that having 70% of children born to single mothers, entrenching inter-generational poverty and leading to a life of dysfunction and crime, all underwritten by welfare, is the more decisive factor in the decline of the African-American family, which, as you correctly point out, was doing quite well up until c. 1960. The same recipe is now hollowing out the white American working class family.

  159. calli

    Sorry Cali, I see figures from the green left wets that masquerade as journalists at 5000 and immediately halve to work out anything near what is the probable.

    Heh.

    Shame there are no aerials. A drone shot would certainly have captured the vast crowd.

    Someone might find the all-revealing picture.

  160. DrBeauGan

    Sad to say I switch off when I hear BLM or indigenous disadvantage now unless it comes from someone like Bess Price. The welcome to country/acknowledgement stuff I now roll my eyes openly. I just don’t care anymore, they have more avenues to get ahead despite being 200m behind at the starters gun in life then I ever dreamed of and they are still aggrieved. Going round in life with a chip on ones shoulder doesn’t earn respect. My 2c worth anyway.

    The USA had the same problem with Amerindians. The smart ones absorbed the white culture and the incompetent ones whinged. Copying the good ideas of a new culture is instinctive for bright and confident folk, and too hard for the victim class.

  161. Carpe Jugulum

    Interview with Fedo Cuomoand the Ken And Karen home defenders
    Fredo looked like a tool

  162. Rockdoctor

    I agree Cali, drone shots & an independent count. Most media outlets have been caught out routinely cropping photos to push a narrative hence my skepticism.

  163. Old Lefty

    You can bet your bottom dollar that Vinnies and the Salvation Army are there, or at least trying to help if Comrade Andrews will let them. But they don’t count and are cancelled in the Socialist Left/Green/ABC/Fairfax utopia:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-05/coronavirus-lockdown-vic-housing-tower-residents-how-to-help/12423666

  164. calli

    So many juicy memes from the McCloskey’s Lawn Attack. But have to say, this is my favourite.

    Brought back happy memories of the Highlands.

    But with younger, more attractive defenders, natch. 😀

  165. Old School Conservative

    The face mask wearers were not protecting themselves against the Kung Flu.
    It was recognition they were scared of. It’s an antica tactic.

  166. egg_

    Blue Angels Over Mount Rushmore! Salute to America 2020

    The B2’s were great and were featured on the live rally video feed.
    A Mach 1 flyover at 500 ft would have been epic!

  167. Roger

    It’s an antica tactic.

    Anticaucacity?

    😉

  168. Ed Case

    Think of any famous U.S. black born between 1900 and 1940, look up his wiki entry, and it’s almost certain that he didn’t grow up with a dad in the house even though his parents were married.
    Try it out, perhaps Bill Cosby was the only one.

  169. Bruce of Newcastle

    But have to say, this is my favourite.

    One of the best in the WIP!
    Fun how suddenly the Left have gotten so interested in firearms, and not to protest them either.

    FBI firearm background checks set another all-time record in June (2 Jul)

    More and more Americans appear to be arming themselves following a month of continued fears over the deadly coronavirus pandemic and images of some rioters causing damage after hijacking peaceful protests demanding racial justice. The FBI conducted more than 3.9 million background checks associated with the sale, transfer or permitting of firearms in June, making it the highest month on record for background checks since the bureau began keeping statistics in 1998

    Ringing 911 with a stranger in the house at 3am, and getting transferred to a social worker would really suck.

  170. egg_

    Blue Angels Over Mount Rushmore! Salute to America 2020

    Plenty of footage of an epic PA setup, too.
    No expense spared.

  171. Notafan:

    The destruction of the family and in particular the absence of fathers seems to me more likely to the heart of the problem

    Exactly right, Nota.
    It was done deliberately by the Democrats to create a permanent underclass of voters who wouldn’t stray off the plantation, and by golly it worked!

  172. Bruce of Newcastle

    Think of any famous U.S. black born between 1900 and 1940, look up his wiki entry, and it’s almost certain that he didn’t grow up with a dad in the house even though his parents were married.

    Here you go Ed. He’s my distant cousin born in 1937. Nope, wrong on that hypothesis, even though he was born in Harlem.

  173. Roger

    Think of any famous U.S. black born between 1900 and 1940, look up his wiki entry, and it’s almost certain that he didn’t grow up with a dad in the house even though his parents were married.
    Try it out, perhaps Bill Cosby was the only one.

    Bill Cosby the only one, eh?

    Scrolling through Wiki entries isn’t a very scientific research method, though, wouldn’t you say?

  174. Ed Case

    Now try finding one descended from slaves in America.
    Colin Powell isn’t an American black in the sense we were talking about, he’s definitely pointed out that he has no american slave ancestry.

  175. Armadillo

    Think of any famous U.S. black born between 1900 and 1940, look up his wiki entry, and it’s almost certain that he didn’t grow up with a dad in the house even though his parents were married.

    Sexist. Think of the sheliahs.

  176. Cassie of Sydney

    “Colin Powell isn’t an American black in the sense we were talking about, he’s definitely pointed out that he has no american slave ancestry.”

    Well then neither was the President Obumma…..he didn’t have any American slave ancestry either.

    So, according to Head Case, Colin Powell and Mr Obumma aren’t really black.

  177. notafan

    Clarence Thomas’s biography is a classic on the destruction of the African American family that had its beginnings in slavery.

    It was his grandfather’s conversion to Catholicism after fathering illegitimate children himself, his taking in of his grandsons and keeping them too busy to get into mischief and Thomas’s Catholic education that allowed him to escape a typical life.

    Well worth reading his biography.

    Sharecropping was appalling for African Americans and poor whites alike and mechanisation put an end to it.

  178. custard

    Carpe!

    Many thanks for posting the McKlosky video with Fredo

    I’d seen links to it a lot but finally had the time this arvo to watch.

    Brilliant. Winning.

  179. Steve trickler

    Soundscapes that take you places.



  180. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ed, Gen. Powell is certainly descended from slaves because I am descended from a slave – my gt^5 granny who had 8 children by her Scottish sugar plantation owner, my gt^5 grandad. Six survived. They never married.

  181. notafan

    My Grandfather’s Son is the title.

  182. Knuckle Dragger

    Colin Powell.

    TDS sufferer, and incidentally the man who tried to cover up – ‘whitewash’, in the words of magisterial historian Sir Max Hastings – the My Lai massacre.

    Sidney Poitier’s family was massive slave owners in the Caribbean by the way.

  183. Roger

    Now try finding one descended from slaves in America.

    Martin Luther King Jnr.

    Hank Aaron

    Sammy Davis Jnr.

    Easy peasy.

  184. Armadillo

    Now try finding one descended from slaves in America.

    Ed, you are the one making the claim. How about you research it and get back to everyone?

    You just need to find proof that the majority of famous African Americans with slave ancestors grew up without a father in their house. It’s shouldn’t take too long. Hop to it.

  185. notafan

    BoN

    Though not a direct descendant myself, I have a relative who had 12 children with her master, she was a servant not a slave though.

    Lived with his Australian defacto wife in peculiar circumstances. The real wife was left behind in England, she found a new husband and had more children too.

    I get the impression that unchurched lower class people didn’t bother too much with the formalities in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

  186. Knuckle Dragger

    *were massive*

    Gawd.

    (sic) (sic) (sic)

    Powell was part of the first lot of virtue-signal US Army promotions, and was a staff officer (a major at the time) in the 23rd Americal Division.

  187. Ed:

    Think of any famous U.S. black born between 1900 and 1940, look up his wiki entry, and it’s almost certain that he didn’t grow up with a dad in the house even though his parents were married.

    I get annoyed at people who think not having a male role model/father in the house is a ticket to poverty and social isolation.
    It certainly doesn’t help, but the failure belongs to the person.
    Unless of course it’s all a little too hard and the poor petal is looking for someone else to blame for their lot in life.

  188. Infidel Tiger King

    Think of any famous U.S. black born between 1900 and 1940, look up his wiki entry, and it’s almost certain that he didn’t grow up with a dad in the house even though his parents were married.
    Try it out, perhaps Bill Cosby was the only one.

    Horseshit.

    Blacks had a higher rate of wedlock and intact families than whites until WW2

    They are naturally conservative people torn asunder by racism and leftism.

  189. Infidel Tiger King

    I get annoyed at people who think not having a male role model/father in the house is a ticket to poverty and social isolation.

    Weird when facts annoy people.

    No father present is the single greatest indicator you are going to have a shit life.

  190. Roger

    I get annoyed at people who think not having a male role model/father in the house is a ticket to poverty and social isolation.

    Fair point, Winston; but it is a well documented sociological phenomenon.

  191. Eyrie

    rickw, thanks. Hasn’t shown up yet. Did it bounce or get delayed?

  192. Armadillo

    Ed, it’s not up to Cats to disprove your ridiculous claims.

    Get to work.

  193. Tom

    Simon Goodwin is a dud coach. Melbourne thought they could beat the reigning premiers, but Blind Freddy could have told them they were dreaming. I blame Paul Roos.

  194. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘No father present is the single greatest indicator you are going to have a shit life.’

    Yeah.

    Just like Richard Pryor and Sam Jackson Jnr and Morgan Freeman.

  195. Ed Case

    Bruce, we’re talking about descendants of slaves in North America, not Jamaica.

  196. Roger ITK:

    It certainly doesn’t help, but the failure belongs to the person.

    Did you miss this bit?
    Adults have agency.

  197. Infidel Tiger King

    Richard Pryor had a god awful life.

    He’s a cautionary tale of dysfunction.

  198. Roger:

    Fair point, Winston; but it is a well documented sociological phenomenon.

    Certainly it is. That’s not quite my point.

  199. Infidel Tiger King

    Men who have cucked out and abandoned their kids often get shitty when talk of abandoned fathers And dysfunction comes up.

    Sad.

  200. Knuckle Dragger

    Or – or, you could have a father like Damir Dokic. He was a cracker.

    ‘Australia Tennis is criminal organisation.’

    ‘Two pieces of fish.’

    Or like the fully 70% of fathers with kids who play sport, and live vicariously through them when they’re not on the spruik about how they could have played for the Broncos/Collingwood/Aston Villa/Australia had not some suit screwed them over, or how that injury at the critical point in their career prevented the world from basking in their genius.

    Those wankers are a special sort of fuckwit.

  201. Infidel Tiger King

    Adults have agency.

    Sounds like the sort of rubbish coddled libertarians spout when workers complain their jobs have been outsourced to Com Gooks.

  202. Old School Conservative

    It’s an antica tactic.

    Anticaucacity?

    Much more prosaic. Fat fingers.

  203. Bruce in WA

    Just back from our three-week “odyssey” to Kununurra and back.

    Total km: 9132

    Fuel average overall: 6.5L per 100 km (or 43.7 mpg on the “old” scale). That’s from the time we left home until we pulled back into the garage, including high-speed running, city/town running, dirt roads — the whole bit. Pretty pleased with that. (Two-litre turbo diesel.) Diesel prices ranged from 112c per L (Kununurra) to 165c per L (Halls Creek). And if any of my cop and ex-cop rellies are reading this, look away now — we weren’t exactly hanging around out on the highways, either!

    WA is back on the move, too. On a measured 200-km stretch between Carnarvon and Geraldton, I counted 507 vehicles (excluding road trains etc.) heading north. Don’t think I’ve ever seen so many people towing “oversize” boats, either.

    Only a handful of “incidents”:

    1. My wife driving when someone coming the other way left it a little late to overtake, and barely got back into his lane in time.

    2. Me driving when a 4WD with camper trailer misjudged a bend and swung the trailer out into my lane. He swung it back OK, but overcorrected and ran it off the road into the dirt on his side before managing to straighten up.

    3. Me driving, rounding a bend at 110, to find a friendly, ahem, tourist in a hired camper van, right across both lanes, doing a three-point turn! Without going into great detail, I imagine the man uses chopsticks to eat …

    Otherwise, all good. It IS a wonderful State.

  204. Ed Case

    Sharecropping was appalling for African Americans and poor whites alike and mechanisation put an end to it.

    Rubbish.
    Plenty of sharecroppers in Australia right now, sometimes they do well, sometimes not.
    The promise to American blacks once the Union won the Civil War was that any former slaves that wanted to keep farming would get 40 acres and a mule [in 1865].
    That promise was never kept.

  205. Roger

    Adults have agency.

    I’d be the last to deny that.

    Yes, there’s always a moral choice involved in the descent into criminality.

    But our family backgrounds also shape our lives.

    If you haven’t had a father to tell you right from wrong, and your mother was flat out trying to keep a roof over your head and bread on the table, then as a young male you are more likely than others to gravitate to a group of similar young males to find your male identity.

    Acknowledging that phenomenon doesn’t excuse the bad choices made, but it does go some way to explaining why they were made. Which should lead to policies that addres the causative factors, like welfare policy.

  206. Knuckle Dragger

    The only coddling that occurs is the one society provides as a Victim For Life for blokes who squeal ‘I didn’t really know my father’ when they make shit decisions as adults.

    Which leads me to an excellent Dad joke:

    *showing people around the house who’ve never been in it before*

    ‘What’s that? Oh, that’s my stepladder. Of course, I never got to know my real ladder.’

    Yes. Yes I have used that.

  207. Fisky

    I didn’t realise the LaRouchite movement was pro-Beijing but it makes total sense. No wonder Memoryvault was defending the CCP!

    While the CCP’s policies gain mainstream legitimacy from the backing they receive from top political figures and parties, fervent support also emanates from the fringes. The Schiller Institute has been particularly active in boosting Beijing’s influence in Europe. It was founded in 1984 in Wiesbaden by Helga Zepp-LaRouche, the wife of controversial American conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche, and is linked to the right-wing LaRouche Movement.223 The Chinese media regularly features Zepp-LaRouche expressing her support for the CCP’s policies and ideas.224 The Schiller Institute’s main focus is promoting the BRI. It strongly advocates the ‘China model’ and Xi’s concepts as alternatives to the current global order. In election campaigns, Zepp-LaRouche’s political party, BüSo (Citizens’ Movement Solidarity), promotes the BRI as the ‘future of Germany’.225

  208. notafan

    Rubbish

    Okay

    I don’t think the two are comparable.

    Not from what I have read.

  209. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bruce, we’re talking about descendants of slaves in North America, not Jamaica.

    Gen. Powell is a descendant of slaves who was born in Harlem.
    Yup, that Harlem.

    Many of my relations are in Nth America, although mainly in Canada I have to say.
    I once went to a fine family BBQ on Vancouver Is. I’d happened to be in Vancouver on a work trip and got an email at midnight from relo in Oz, who told me about it. Had the next day off so I caught the ferry and met all these relos. Including as it happens my UWI prof relo and his cricket playing son (now 5 years older and a lot taller). It was a great BBQ! One of those strange happenstances that happen. I met a distant cousin from a kibbutz in Israel. He was even paler that I!

  210. Roger

    It’s an antica tactic.

    Anticaucacity?

    Much more prosaic. Fat fingers.

    Oh, yes; I know about that!

    🙂

  211. calli

    I’m a descendant of white slaves.

    Compensation please.

    Anything less would be racism.

  212. Steve trickler

    Let’s see the joint in twenty years time?

    Everything looks pretty at night.



  213. Nick

    I’m a descendant of white slaves.

    Lest we forget the Irish slaves sent to work in America

  214. stackja

    Byron Bay Golf Club NSW – Victorians not welcome.

  215. William the Conjuror

    I see figures from the green left wets that masquerade as journalists at 5000 and immediately halve to work out anything near what is the probable

    Not to worry. The link was from D-Day, a moth ago. A different invasion was in focus then.

    And now I wait….

  216. Zyconoclast

    Lewis Hamilton says some drivers’ reluctance to take a knee before the Austrian Grand Prix is down to a lack of understanding of racism.

    F1 drivers will take a collective stance against racism before Sunday’s season-opening race, but some are not comfortable with the kneeling gesture.

    Hamilton said he had made his point to the drivers at a meeting on Friday.

    “I described the scenario that silence is really generally complicit. There is some silence in some cases,” he said.

  217. Knuckle Dragger

    Karate Poof:

    ‘And now I wait….’

    For another beasting at the hands of a fellow F Grade girly who also watches MMA on the telly.

  218. cohenite

    EM result is fucked. If the nats and SFF played a part in the liar skank getting to Canberra they should be shot; not that I’m advocating violence; except towards head prefect who gives me the shits.

  219. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘And now I wait….’

    For Ben Batterham to snap her bra strap. Just like he did in school.

  220. stackja

    I know of a widowed mother of two very young children, this was before welfare. The children grew up to lead productive lives. The mother died when the children were in their mid twenties.

  221. Zyconoclast

    Katsina: The motorcycle bandits terrorising northern Nigeria

    Motorcycle-riding armed bandits operating out of abandoned forest reserves are ransacking communities in Nigeria’s north-west.
    The groups are the latest to join Nigeria’s lucrative kidnap for ransom industry, and are quite brazen in their operations.

  222. stackja

    Zycon – BBC blames AGW. I am shocked.

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lewis Hamilton says some drivers’ reluctance to take a knee before the Austrian Grand Prix is down to a lack of understanding of racism.

    Kneel before your communist superiors.

  224. Tintarella di Luna

    Hamilton said he had made his point to the drivers at a meeting on Friday.

    Oh now I know who the grand -prix really is. A multi-millionaire with great talent and opportunity to capitalise on it telling people to take a knee — I hope those who didn’t take a knee were themselves making a point – that they kneel only to Almighty God.

  225. mh

    Trump now into $2.30 with BetEasy

    Was $2.50 on Friday.

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m a descendant of white slaves.

    Compensation please.

    Anything less would be racism.

    Some of my ancestors were Scottish – evicted from their smallholdings in favor of sheep, marched down to the nearest seaport, told “The Laird has been pleased to pay for your passages to Australia” and “put on the ship” then and there. Massive compensation, please.

  227. Tintarella di Luna

    Thank you Carpe for the Fredo clip – what a tool, between him and his brother – what a pair of nongs.

  228. Zyconoclast

    Massive compensation, please.

    To the sheep?

  229. egg_

    Ed, it’s not up to Cats to disprove your ridiculous claims.

    Trolling 101.

  230. dopey

    Tintarella …the Devine Comedy… Frank or Miranda?

  231. DrBeauGan

    Some of my ancestors were Scottish – evicted from their smallholdings in favor of sheep, marched down to the nearest seaport, told “The Laird has been pleased to pay for your passages to Australia” and “put on the ship” then and there.

    Weren’t they lucky! Not as lucky as the aborigines, but still very fortunate. Send a food parcel to the descendants of the Laird.

  232. notafan

    Widowed is not the same as born out of wedlock because couldn’t care less.

  233. egg_

    Lewis Hamilton says some drivers’ reluctance to take a knee before the Austrian Grand Prix is down to a lack of understanding of racism.

    Hitler’s birthplace, you Schwarze imbecile!

  234. stackja

    Emiliano Zapata Salazar (8 August 1879 – 10 April 1919) was the general of the southern Mexican revolutionary army. Also, the main leader of the peasant revolution in the state of Morelos, and the inspiration of the agrarian movement called Zapatista.

    I’d rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

  235. notafan

    Fulani

    It’s there a small religious element to the ongoing trouble in northern Nigeria?

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