Open Forum: July 4, 2020

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  1. Tel

    Hillary Clinton: ‘I would have done a better job’ handling coronavirus

    Hillary would have sent missiles flying over China, and she would be sitting under Cheyenne Mountain having a good giggle by now.

  2. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nick
    #3504305, posted on July 5, 2020 at 6:26 pm
    I’m a descendant of white slaves.

    Lest we forget the Irish slaves sent to work in America”

    I know I am nitpicking…but weren’t they “indentured”?

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    It was only ever a matter of time, I suppose (the Hun):

    ‘Soccer officals caused a furore after junior players were made to kneel in a Black Lives Matter protest before a match last week. Angry parents complained that 13-year-old players had been dragged without warning into a political statement in the game between the Ringwood City and Manningham United Blues clubs.

    ‘Ringwood City, which hosted the match last Thursday, sent its members and parents an email saying the club had nothing to do with the protest. It said that Football Victoria referees had notified coaches of the action just minutes before kick-off, and they “were caught completely unaware”.’

    Dear Football Victoria. Fuck off.

  4. mh

    Victoria really is a foul place.

  5. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fulani
    It’s there a small religious element to the ongoing trouble in northern Nigeria?

    How could anyone possibly consider that the peaceful RoP might have contributed to such things? Beyond thought and consideration.

    Nigeria: Church Loses Eight Pastors, Over 8000 Members to Insurgency (2 Jul)

    The Ekklesiyar Yan’uwa a Nigeria (EYN) also known as Church of the Brethren in Nigeria, has said it lost more than 8,370 members, including eight Pastors, to the Boko Haram Insurgency in the North East.

    EYN President, Joel Billi, who gave the statistics on Thursday, at the World News Conference, organised by the Dominion, in Yola, the Adamawa State capital, said 25,000 members of the Church were currently taking refuge in neighbouring Cameroun, while more than 700,000 were in Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) camps.

    Mr Billi said the purpose of the news conference was to review and highlight the effects of insurgency and the state of the nation, on the Church’s activities.

    The president regretted that the activities of the terrorists had affected more than 1.5 million members, and caused huge damages to the denomination’s places of worship in the North East region.

    Nigeria’s Prez is a RoPer. Doesn’t seem to be much urgency in dealing with this issue.

  6. JC

    mh
    #3504345, posted on July 5, 2020 at 7:19 pm

    Victoria really is a foul place.

    North of the river it is. But really, 7 months of the year QLD is a stinking, filthy, humid, malaria ridden hellhole. You shouldn’t be casting stones.

  7. Rebel with cause

    ABC News calls Mathias Cormann a ‘fiscal conservative’. How many balanced budgets has he been involved in? Cormann is to fiscal conservatism as 0% Heineken is to beer.

    That he’s off to a gig with the OECD in Paris is telling.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hillary Clinton: ‘I would have done a better job’ handling coronavirus

    Hopefully she doesn’t suicide herself after Ms Maxwell spills her guts.
    I think she’d look good in an orange jumpsuit with little arrows all over it.

  9. Geriatric Mayfly

    Locked down towers ‘vertical cruise ships’

    Economy class travel on all sailings. All berths booked out.

  10. Ed Case

    No, Irish were sent as slaves to North America in large numbers. Their only drawback was a lack of resistance to Malarial conditions in the South East.
    That’s where West Africans came in handy.
    It was still a reprieve for the West Africans, since captives were either shipped to the Americas, or eaten.

  11. Steve trickler

    Miles Davis – 1959.



  12. Nick

    Cassie,
    Yes, there are semantic differences of opinion, with one source saying that even the African slaves saw the Irish as being slaves.

  13. mh

    JC, sounds like wifey has put her foot down and you’re not moving to Qld now.

    I understand your bitterness.

  14. Farmer Gez

    Just saw the the most sickening display of virtue signalling by Lisa Wilkinson on The Project.
    She was actually lecturing the Queen on how to deal with Prince Andrew.
    Addressing the Queen personally, if you can believe this little twerps pomposity.

  15. JC

    No, I said 7 months of the year, which means there’s 5 decent months.

    Hey, I almost forgot about the apartment thing. I was really hot for it and then the China bug closed everything down. I think those were all sold .. not sure

  16. Cassie of Sydney

    “Ed Case
    #3504352, posted on July 5, 2020 at 7:25 pm
    No, Irish were sent as slaves to North America in large numbers.”

    Perhaps you need to delete the comma.

  17. Des Deskperson

    Their ABC just now described Labor’s win in E-M as and ‘against all odds victory’.

    It was nothing of the sort. As I have commented before, as a result of boundary shifts and changes in the socio-political makeup of the electorate, E-M can now be, prima facie, regarded a solid of not safe Labor seat. On the basis of its overall past performances, and in light of the the particular advantages this by-election gave it, Labor should have won at least 55% of the 2PP votes.

    So how come the ‘independent’ ABC reporter described it as an ‘against all odds victory’? Because he was parroting, without acknowledgement, Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese. .

  18. Some History

    Nigeria: Church Loses Eight Pastors, Over 8000 Members to Insurgency

    Wonder if Cambeige has any advice for the Nigerians.

  19. Cassie of Sydney

    “Farmer Gez
    #3504362, posted on July 5, 2020 at 7:30 pm
    Just saw the the most sickening display of virtue signalling by Lisa Wilkinson on The Project.
    She was actually lecturing the Queen on how to deal with Prince Andrew.
    Addressing the Queen personally, if you can believe this little twerps pomposity.”

    I reckon a cane toad is more beneficial to Australian society than Mrs FitzSimian.

  20. mh

    Owning apartments inter state for your own use is definitely not the way to go now.
    Corona means government can stop you anytime.

  21. Geriatric Mayfly

    Addressing the Queen personally, if you can believe this little twerps pomposity.

    As Ma’am I trust, showing due deference to one of her betters, of whom there must be legions.

  22. JC

    Owning apartments inter state for your own use is definitely not the way to go now.
    Corona means government can stop you anytime.

    Tell me about it. I reckon I’ll be 90 before I see our place in the big apple again. No fucking way am I spending 14 days in a prison on return. No way.

  23. kaysee

    There was some discussion, earlier in this thread, on the stockpiling of food and supplies due to the virus lock down.
     
    Just watched this video.

    The Twilight Zone (Episode #68): “The Shelter” (airdate 29/9/1961)

    The Plot:
    A dinner party is interrupted with news of an impending nuclear attack, but only one family planned ahead and installed a bomb shelter. The party goes downhill fast from there.

     
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gmgnb

  24. JC

    Perhaps you need to delete the comma.

    Eggsactly, who’s peddling that nonsense?

    As I keep saying, slavery gets an unnecessarily bad rap as I could easily make a case for a carbon slave for instance. I had one until a few years I had Metro Mick as my carbon slave who escaped. He happened to be white, but so what? At least he got the work done.

  25. Mark from Melbourne

    I have been unable to post any comment with a link in it (like my just-this-minute attempt to post the Al Jarreau version of Take Five… hardly controversial stuff!) for at least a week or so.

    Anyone else experiencing this?

    I normally post via Firefox. When I try to post the same link via Chrome, I get told I’ve posted a duplicate, so the hamsters *know* I’ve posted but they just swallow it whole!

    Anyway, Jarreau has a great version of Take Five…

  26. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘As Ma’am I trust, showing due deference to one of her betters, of whom there must be legions.’

    Everyone. Everyone is that aging trollop’s better.

    Belle Gibson has more credibility than Lisa Wilkinson.

  27. Oh come on

    The D Gen were so much better than the Chaser ‘boys’.

    The Paul Keating interview

  28. Tintarella di Luna

    Addressing the Queen personally, if you can believe this little twerps pomposity.

    Oh my — she’s got a severe case of RedBandanaitis — caught from the ham-fisted pompous oaf to whom she’s married.

    Lisa “I’m a Campbelltown Girl’ Wilkinson may also suffering from too much facial work — from the recent photos I’ve seen it seems her neck is now longer than her throat, but then that might be a tad catty, must be the salmon I had for lunch.

  29. rickw

    That he’s off to a gig with the OECD in Paris is telling.

    If you’re an Australian Bureaucrat or Politician, should be 10 years after quitting before you can get a job with the UN or any other similar trough.

    That would put a crimp in their love of internationalism.

  30. Tel

    Hopefully she doesn’t suicide herself after Ms Maxwell spills her guts.
    I think she’d look good in an orange jumpsuit with little arrows all over it.

    Look Bruce, you are lovable at heart but please get a grip … if there was any intention, even the slightest intention of unwinding the very large network of “customers” that Epstein and Maxwell provided services to, then the authorities would have been going through their video collection with a fine tooth comb. Since that has not happened, you can be sure that what is coming up will be farcical at best. Get ready for Maxwell to either conveniently vanish, or get a slap on the wrist pretend trial and then vanish.

  31. Cassie of Sydney

    “Lisa “I’m a Campbelltown Girl’ Wilkinson may also suffering from too much facial work — from the recent photos I’ve seen it seems her neck is now longer than her throat, but then that might be a tad catty, must be the salmon I had for lunch.”

    Not catty…accurate….when I see her and her buffoon husband…all I think of is grifters.

  32. JC

    Small study, but how fucking interesting.

    COVID-19 Herd Immunity Is Much Closer Than Antibody Tests Suggest, Say 2 New Studies
    If the findings are true, that’s really great news.

    The prevalence of immunity to the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 may be much higher than previous research suggests according to an intriguing new study by researchers associated with Karolinska Institute in Sweden. In addition, a new German study by researchers associated with the University Hospital Tübingen in Germany reports that people who have been previously infected with versions of the coronavirus that cause the common cold also have some immunity to the COVID-19 virus. If these reports stand up to further scrutiny, it would be very good news because they suggest that the pandemic could be over sooner and ultimately be less lethal than feared.

    read on.

    https://reason.com/2020/07/01/covid-19-herd-immunity-is-much-closer-than-antibody-tests-suggest-say-2-new-studies/

  33. Rockdoctor

    Just a thought on Dan’s lockdown of the Houso Flats in North Melbourne/Flemington. Day 1 we have seen wailing women and arrests of reasonably normal people, so what happens when all the junkies and meth heads run out of supply? The ensuing carnage will be certainly interesting to watch.

  34. rickw

    Eyrie,

    I just forwarded files via phone one at a time. Size to big I think!

  35. Knuckle Dragger

    Quality work Steve T.

  36. Geriatric Mayfly

    Fathers’ Day on the horizon. Fitzsimian must be inflicting more torture on the old Remington as he belts out another one for the remainder bin. Any clues as to unlucky target?

  37. Knuckle Dragger

    RD,

    Tipping tomorrow night. Smack in the 36-72-hour window.

  38. Eyrie

    “That he’s off to a gig with the OECD in Paris is telling.”

    The EU agent has done his job and been retired into a sinecure.

  39. egg_

    The prevalence of immunity to the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 may be much higher than previous research suggests…

    Back in the real world:

    There are said to be two strains, ours being the older Wuhan strain.

    The new strain, in the US and EU, is claimed to be both more contagious and more deadly, of course!

  40. Eyrie

    rickw, files turned up. Thanks again.

  41. Nick

    Any clues as to unlucky target?

    Pemulwuy.
    Can’t wait to read the dialogue 🙂

  42. Farmer Gez

    The new strain, in the US and EU, is claimed to be both more contagious and more deadly, of course!

    Both strains brought to your doorstep by Chairman Dan.
    “My old China.”

  43. rickw

    How much do you stockpile?

    About 12 months of rolled oats and powdered milk, 2000 rounds of .22, 500 rounds of .223 and 30oz of gold.

    That’s a lot of porridge, game, protesters and fillings!

  44. rickw

    rickw, files turned up. Thanks again.

    NP, there should be 4 different files plus the instruction PDF. Let me know if you’re missing any, a bit hard to do on the phone.

  45. Nick

    It is shocking to suddenly find police all over your home, and the government saying to you: “Go to your room and don’t come out.” We are shocked but I am also happy, because we were scared the government had forgotten us, and we have been very frightened, and now something is being done about it.

    My name is Awatif Taha and I am from the Sudan. I have lived in the public housing flats in Flemington for 18 years, since I came to Australia with my husband. He is a journalist and, after working some years in Egypt, he wasn’t able to return to Sudan because of the government’s attitude.

  46. cohenite

    The black militias in the US are getting ramped up. Looks pretty fucked although the white guy sitting in the car in the last clip tells a couple of Rambos armed to the teeth to piss off:

    https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/07/05/here-comes-trouble-armed-black-militia-multiple-clips-not-good-stopping-people-on-road-too-multiple-clips-below/

  47. thefrollickingmole

    Here in westfailure the state government just announced a 600 or so year tradition will be done away with to allow judicial stacking undreamed of outside year zero scenarios.
    Justice of the Peace’s, with one months notice and no consultation with the organisation or individuals will be no longer a presence in courtrooms.
    JPs will no longer hear matters in court.
    Bail, restraining orders and petty sessions will now all be magistrates.
    120 (or so) unpaid trained volunteers will be replaced by well remunerated professionals on full pay, all ALP appointees.
    With one months notice and zero consultation.
    So much for legal tradition and justice.
    We will remove any minor leavening of community representation in the courts.
    Foul stuff.

  48. cohenite

    My name is Awatif Taha and I am from the Sudan. I have lived in the public housing flats in Flemington for 18 years, since I came to Australia with my husband. He is a journalist and, after working some years in Egypt, he wasn’t able to return to Sudan because of the government’s attitude.

    Just fucking terrific: we get the arseholes even the shitholes of the world won’t have.

  49. Top Ender

    Andrew Bolt:

    Kevin Rudd in 2009 warned that global warming “was putting at risk over 700,000 homes and businesses around our coastlines”.

    Now the former Prime Minister has just bought a coastline property himself.

    Hmm. Rudd once lectured us that “climate change was the moral challenge of our generation”. I think hypocrisy outranks it.

    Rudd and wife Therese spent $17 million for a mansion right on the edge of the sea at Sunshine Beach – the sea that Rudd once insisted would be whipped up by global warning to drown or erode homes around our coast.

    Yes, their new house is on a bluff high enough not to drown, but the outcrop could theoretically fall into the sea if eroded enough by those predicted monster “storm surges”.

    But Rudd’s hypocrisy runs deeper.

    Michael Shellenberger is an American environment commentator who was an expert reviewer for the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change but has now seen the light.

    Shellenberger admits global warming isn’t anything like the disaster long claimed: “On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologise for the climate scare we created over the past 30 years.”

    In his new best-seller, Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All, Shellenberger says no, humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”. No, global warming is not making natural disasters worse. No, we’re not getting more bushfires, and so on.

    Last month came more good news. The world posted a record cereal grain crop for the second year running.

    To Shellenberger’s confession, Rudd responded with insults, complaining that this “latest golden ‘environmentalist’” of the sceptics “holds no formal qualifications”.

    But Rudd himself has no science qualifications. Nor does 17-year-old Greta Thunberg, the fiery-eyed saint of the climate apocalypse, who Rudd praised for “speaking truth to power”.

    Also lacking qualifications in climate science is Rudd’s wife, Therese Rein, who in November seemed to think Prime Minister Scott Morrison in his less than two years of power could have changed the world’s climate to stop bushfires in NSW.

    “Parts of NSW on fire at least in part because your party has blocked, and also not initiated, effective climate change policies,” Rein tweeted in a stunning display of scientific illiteracy. Or malice.

    Still,. Rudd and Rein can now sit all day, waiting for the ocean to finally do what Rudd once claimed. Such tension!

    Herald-Sun

  50. miltonf

    Tits and Krudd are proof that politics is show biz for ugly people.

  51. miltonf

    Very very wealthy ugly people.

  52. miltonf

    And doesn’t the FMID love them.

  53. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just fucking terrific: we get the arseholes even the shitholes of the world won’t have.

    Anyone care to speculate what the crime figures will be while these places are in lock down?

  54. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘He is a journalist’

    Aspiring, surely.

    ‘and, after working some years in Egypt, he wasn’t able to return to Sudan because of the government’s attitude.’

    So obviously, staying in Egypt where there’s work – apparently years’ worth at least – the thing to do would be throw your passports in the ocean and turn up here, thanking you-know-who for the generous welfare system and that you got in two months before the Tampa.

  55. woolfe

    Ranks with Hot house Flowers for best rendition of classic

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    ’17-year-old Greta Thunberg, the fiery-eyed saint of the climate apocalypse’

    And who has six months left before turning 18 in January 2021, at which point she will be discarded like a plastic straw in the Yangtze in favour of a younger, more photogenic, even more piggly-tailed climate poppet with activist parents.

    Hope your super’s stacked up nicely sweetie, because Mummy and Daddy are tired from counting their EU, IPCC and UN donations and are going to live in Monaco for the next eight years.

  57. Geriatric Mayfly

    Had to look that up Nick Pembulwuy never got a guernsey in the Sixth Grade reader. I note he had several aliases; Bimblewove being one, and more in keeping with the Simian’s trajectory in his rambling tomes
    ‘Bumbleway’ was another.

  58. thefrollickingmole

    No love for JPs….

    Let’s put it another way.
    120 fairly ordinary people costing SFA will be replaced by about 50 magistrates all carefully selected by the ALP to drive its objectives of reducing incarceration rates of certain groups regardless of crimes committed.
    Those magistrates will be on nice money with full supporting staff, so a nice little $300,000 or so each position.
    And a lovely loyal pool to promote later on.

  59. Siltstone

    Steve trickler
    #3504339, posted on July 5, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    Dave Brubeck – Take Five
    Exceptional.
    Al Jarreau is fine (thanks P @7:50), but no contest.

  60. egg_

    Researchers find new coronavirus strain ‘more contagious’, potentially impacting COVID-19 vaccine search

    A group of leading international researchers has concluded the coronavirus behind the global pandemic has already mutated into a second strain, which appears to have spread faster and wider than the original one, potentially undermining efforts to create a vaccine.

    The research, yet to be peer-reviewed but posted online by scientists from the US and UK, also found the newer strain, or G-strain, may undermine any immunity gained from infection by the original strain.

  61. Steve trickler

    This will be interesting.



  62. Dr Faustus

    Rudd and wife Therese spent $17 million for a mansion right on the edge of the sea at Sunshine Beach…

    Actually, it was Therese Rein who bought the property.
    Rudd is just a toy boy.

  63. Eyrie

    Mrs Eyrie just had a job offer she doesn’t want from a friend. Desperate shortage of header drivers for the bumper harvest in October/November. Normally done by OS people who won’t be able to get here.
    This could get REALLY serious.
    Any takers? If you know anyone who could do this please ask them.

  64. egg_

    The new strain, in the US and EU, is claimed to be both more contagious and more deadly, of course!

    Both strains brought to your doorstep by Chairman Dan.

    Toffs returning from the NH ski season must have brought the later strain to our shores.

  65. MemoryFault

    This could get REALLY serious.

    So, the welfare system is functioning exactly as designed and intended.

  66. rickw

    ’17-year-old Greta Thunberg, the fiery-eyed saint of the climate apocalypse’

    Who?

  67. Steve trickler

    This will not be fun.



  68. rickw

    Any takers? If you know anyone who could do this please ask them.

    Can skinnies drive harvesters?!

  69. Mitch M.

    Steve trickler
    #3504433, posted on July 5, 2020 at 9:13 pm
    This will be interesting.

    It is more about Robert Whittaker. He makes some interesting points about the role of drugs in psychiatry but fundamentally he is wrong. He is a leading figure in the anti-psychiatry movement. JP was seriously mistaken in relying so heavily on benzos. Too addictive and he has paid a heavy price for that. A Prof of Psychology should have known better.

    Nothing new about the benzo problem. “Mother’s Little Helper” Rolling Stones

  70. rickw

    Mark Felton keeps doing the work that History Channel won’t!

  71. min

    She ran an employment agency for disabled people made all the money after he was in Goss’s office and she did government recruitment then sold the business on . I worked in recruitment back then so know how system worked . Not too many recruitment agencies made multi millions.

  72. thefrollickingmole

    Takeaway is drugs will fuck you up used long term.
    The aim of every drug should be short term crisis relief, not a long term chemical Cosh.
    Not a bad interview though.

  73. Bruce in WA

    A group of leading international researchers has concluded the coronavirus behind the global pandemic has already mutated into a second strain, which appears to have spread faster and wider than the original one, potentially undermining efforts to create a vaccine.

    The research, yet to be peer-reviewed but posted online by scientists from the US and UK, also found the newer strain, or G-strain, may undermine any immunity gained from infection by the original strain.

    Funny, Oxford University concluded it was mutating and weakening as it did.

  74. thefrollickingmole

    If I wasn’t on the phone I’d link the ultimate mothers little helper trippy song Halcyon.

    A stalwart of the early rage programming.

  75. rickw

    Like PNG, you run over some idiot on the road, plant it and keep driving to the nearest Police Station.

    (Two doctors I knew in PNG had a girl run out of nowhere into the path of their bull bar equiped 4WD, their driver couldn’t stop in time, girl went flying and hit the ground like a rag doll, their medical assessment was 99% chance of being dead, then the crowed surged in, their driver skilfully pushed cars out of the way and got them away safely. Later that day while they’re working at POM General, dad brings in daughter suffering from chipped tooth and slight headache, got hit by 4WD. To their relief and amazement, was the same girl, PNG tough!)

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    Mitch:

    ‘It is more about Robert Whittaker. He makes some interesting points about the role of drugs in psychiatry’

    What?

    ‘but fundamentally he is wrong.’

    Okay. Carry on.

  77. custard

    Many thanks Cats. Great work.

  78. MemoryFault

    If I wasn’t on the phone I’d link the ultimate mothers little helper trippy song

    The original and the best.

  79. MemoryFault

    Just keep in mind that Stones song and clip are over half a century old.
    It’s been a problem for quite a while now.

  80. pete m

    So ho does Kanye West maybe entering the field affect the polls for Biden – lol.

    If KW gets 10% black vote Biden is beyond screwed.

  81. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The extraordinary life of the Lindeman wine heiress rumoured to have killed four husbands and who once walked a cheetah through London on a leash – as she bewitched and scandalised the world

    Enid Lindeman was the granddaughter of famed winemaker Dr Henry Lindeman
    At 21 she was married to a rich American businessman more than twice her age
    She would go on to earn the nicknames Lady Killmore and the Penniless Peeress
    Her exploits were followed from London and Cairo to New York, Paris and Kenya
    Enid would be married and widowed four times and spend two great fortunes
    At her villa on the Cote d’Azur she would entertain the brightest Hollywood stars
    Among her guests were Grace Kelly, Fred Astaire, Frank Sinatra and Greta Garbo
    Best-selling Australian author Robert Wainwright has written a new book, ‘Enid’

    Daily Wail. Strikes me that this lady would make a damnfine Kitteh!

  82. MatrixTransform

    this lady would make a damnfine Kitteh

    meh … dead root

  83. MemoryFault

    Strikes me that this lady would make a damnfine Kitteh!

    Definitely my kind of woman!
    Thanks Zulu.

  84. MemoryFault

    Since you brought up Lovely Ladies, and the thread is dead anyway . . .
    A song for absent friends.

  85. Colonel Crispin Berka

    I think she’d look good in an orange jumpsuit with little arrows all over it.

    if there was any intention, even the slightest intention of unwinding the very large network of “customers” that Epstein and Maxwell provided services to

    …then you would all push The Button.

    The only person who ever claimed Trump had a struggle snuggle with her was someone who lodged a civil suit for a criminal offence in 2016 and then withdrew it before the election, which (even to a much maligned “TDS-sufferer” like myself) sounds like a hollow astroturfed pre-election smear attack with nothing to it. So hey, push that button, what could go wrong, right?

  86. jupes

    Just saw the the most sickening display of virtue signalling by Lisa Wilkinson on The Project.
    She was actually lecturing the Queen on how to deal with Prince Andrew.
    Addressing the Queen personally, if you can believe this little twerps pomposity.

    Yes, because she of course is so much wiser than the Queen. This, despite the fact she chose for a husband an idiot, who is utterly useless at converting Australians to the republican cause.

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘meh … dead root’

    Heh. Return the favour, I say.

    A piano fell on her head while she was watching Season 15 of The Voice or MAFS, and shrieking to her coven about it on speakerphone.

    Two days after the will was adjusted. Could happen to anyone.

  88. thefrollickingmole

    Heres halcyon.
    Best heard in the 80’s with a hangover 1/2 way through a greasy breakfast.

  89. Steve trickler

    Mitch [email protected]:36.

    You are above my pay grade. Cheerio.

  90. Mitch M.

    Steve trickler
    #3504476, posted on July 5, 2020 at 10:39 pm
    Mitch [email protected]:36.

    You are above my pay grade. Cheerio.

    Steve I watched some of that earlier today. For those not familiar with the issues surrounding chronic use of powerful benzos Whittaker makes some important points that are worth thinking about. His guiding perspective though is mistaken. I’m often critical of USA medicine and the excessive use of psycho drugs. For eg. The increasing off label use of antipsychotics, especially for children, is in my view a very serious problem because I’ve read studies indicating long term use of those drugs causes brain shrinkage(both animal and human studies). Whittaker goes too far though because psycho drugs have saved millions of lives and greatly relieved suffering.

  91. Fisky

    Sky News Australia
    @SkyNewsAust
    Flinders’ University Professor Nikolai Petrovsky says there are fears a bat virus discovered by the Wuhan Institute of Virology was tampered with to create the COVID-19 virus.

    Hmmmm, now why would they be??

  92. MemoryFault

    Been a while since we had anything bubbling up from near Hell, Steve Trickler.
    And since I’m absolutely pie-eyed rotten drunk for the first time nearly a decade, now would be good.

  93. Steve trickler

    Pete, sleep well.



  94. MemoryFault

    Thanks Steve.
    Fvck sleep. It can play while I find another bottle of Shiraz.
    Or claret. Or something. Three iss not nearly enough. Not even with wa Asahi six packd

  95. mh

    The 53 countries supporting China’s crackdown on Hong Kong

    China, Antigua and Barbuda, Bahrain, Belarus, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Comoros, Congo-Brazzaville, Cuba, Djibouti, Dominica, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Mauritania, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nepal, Nicaragua, Niger, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Palestine, Papua New Guinea, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Syria, Tajikistan, Togo, UAE, Venezuela, Yemen, Zambia and Zimbabwe.

    https://www.axios.com/countries-supporting-china-hong-kong-law-0ec9bc6c-3aeb-4af0-8031-aa0f01a46a7c.html

  96. littledozer

    https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1279759633591214083

    A White rioter blamed a black man for giving her molotov cocktail supplies when questioned by the police and then the cops found out she was protecting her white friend

    Its not about racism

    Its about ideology

    So yea, a culture war

  97. MemoryFault

    Thanks Steve.
    Found a bottle of Cabernet sauvicnon 20008 is ok.
    + more cigrfs.

  98. Steve trickler

    MemoryFault
    #3504483, posted on July 5, 2020 at 11:04 pm
    Thanks Steve.
    Fvck sleep. It can play while I find another bottle of Shiraz.
    Or claret. Or something. Three iss not nearly enough. Not even with wa Asahi six packd

    Thinking of Marilyn.



  99. Zyconoclast

    Steve trickler
    #3504339, posted on July 5, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    An undeniable classic.

  100. Peter Greagg

    John Mayall and Mick Taylor

  101. MemoryFault

    Thinking of Marilyn.

    Is half Steeve.
    Now life is shit X2

  102. MemoryFault

    x2 blessd x2 curssed
    is shit life.

    good song tho tnks

  103. Mitch M.

    Fisky
    #3504497, posted on July 5, 2020 at 11:27 pm
    We need more “engagement” with Chinese academics!

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-research-papers-raise-doubts-fueling-global-questions-about-scientific-integrity-11593939600

    Fisky the corruption of Chinese scientific publications was documented several years ago in a Nature published study which I won’t bother to dig up. That is why I have previously stated I will not trust any research emanating from China unless there is supporting evidence elsewhere. The COVID research is just more of the same.

  104. Mark A

    Sad people here tonight, hang in there, wish them well for the morrow, but it’s gonna be a monumental hang over for some, by the sound of it.

    Lame pics to lift or depress the spirit, depends on your view as always.

  105. MemoryFault

    tnks did i mis lamepics

  106. MemoryFault

    tnks mark neded that

  107. Old School Conservative

    Thanks Mark.
    Some beauties in tonight’s lot.
    Exeter mate indeed.

  108. Steve trickler

    Let’s go, Peter.

    Good fun. Goodnight all.



  109. MemoryFault

    Exeter mate indeed.

    was funny haha

  110. MemoryFault

    nite steve tnks agan

  111. Steve trickler

    Drink a bottle of water, MF. A litre before bed.

  112. MemoryFault

    tnks steve gd stuff

  113. MemoryFault

    bed time
    sleep wel e j wherver yiu may be

    Strive to be happy

  114. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    In the city of Olympia there is no such crime as “Wasting Police time”
    Obviously.

  115. Let’s see. A new major industrial power is a hypernationalist fascist state, that is conquering nearby territories, establishing puppet regimes, undertaking a massive military buildup, has implemented a police state, is putting minorities in concentration camps, and is openly talking about further regional conquest. That sounds… familiar.

    Not a bad summary.
    You forgot the context – an isolationist USA with a narcissist in charge, and a pandemic which is flensing long standing international relationships.

    One 94 year-old’s view-

    Because I am old, now 94, I recognise these omens of doom. Chilling signs are everywhere, perhaps the biggest being that the US allows itself to be led by Donald Trump, a man deficient in honour, wisdom and just simple human kindness. It is as foolish for Americans to believe that their generals will save them from Trump as it was for liberal Germans to believe the military would protect the nation from Hitler’s excesses.

  116. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just shows you don’t necessarily get wisdom with age.

  117. johanna

    TheirABC plunges into new depths of self-pitying, ahistorical twaddle:

    Young Australians are struggling in record numbers to cope with the anxiety of watching their world turned upside down.

    Experts compare the disruption and stress of the coronavirus pandemic to living through a war, or the Great Depression, but this is a crisis on a scale most of their parents, and even their grandparents, never had to face.

    It has hit young people the hardest because it comes at such a critical moment; a time when they’re laying the foundations and making decisions that will affect the rest of their lives.

    Forget Gen Z, they may forever be known as Generation COVID.

    Yeah, not being able to do what you feel like doing when you feel like doing it is comparable to living through a war, or the Depression.

    Not.

    Apparently, there is nobody at TheirABC who knows anything about history still on the payroll. Or who has ever spoken to someone who is prepared to say what it was like to live through those things.

    Unbelievable ignorance and entitlement proudly on display. Disgraceful.

  118. calli

    Just shows you don’t necessarily get wisdom with age.

    Exhibit A – yours truly. Scratching around the interwebs to find something/anything on the subject, I posted a month-old story on BLM, Newcastle. Sorry guys.

    It wasn’t five thousand attendance at all. The Newcastle Herald (paywalled) put it at around a thousand. So either BLs don’t M as much this month, or rent-a-crowd had something better to do with their Sunday afternoon. Seven had the Sydney turnout in the “hundreds”.

    Very hard to sustain righteous indignation in a country where so much money and energy is poured into welfare.

  119. calli

    Credit where credit is due. This piece from ABC is worth a look.

    Whoever put it together has done a visually beautiful job.

    And the stories of the people contrast well with Joh’s Depression Era millennials.

  120. Knuckle Dragger

    Outstanding acknowledgment calli.

    Something that others here can never, and will never have the integrity to do.

    Instead they swap subjects, dissemble or piss off for half a day and then return with the same stuff, hoping everyone’s forgotten.

    If I was a pompous white-knighter, I’d say: The comparison is stark.

  121. Knuckle Dragger

    Yesterday was another day of having never watched Tiger King.

    Or The Princess Bride, for that matter.

    I don’t feel like I’ve missed out.

  122. johanna

    Yeah, I saw that too, calli. It is a very fine piece, especially the photos and film clips.

    I was surprised that the mud brick house didn’t survive too well. I was under the impression that one of the virtues of mud brick construction (done properly) is the ability to withstand fire. Then again, when you see the photos of the surrounding former bushland, the heat was probably enough to destroy just about anything.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    How’s that woke socialist republic of yours going lefty New Yorkers?

    Nightmare in New York: How Covid-19, BLM protests and a liberal mayor are turning the city into a no-go zone as murders skyrocket, shops are looted and 500,000 middle-class residents flee (5 Jul)

    Two bullet-ridden bodies lay sprawled on bloodstained concrete steps. Alongside, relatives of the victims are wailing and collapse to the ground. In another part of the city, a gang of youths use spray paint to disable security cameras before robbing a corner store. Later, video footage captures police officers sitting helplessly in their patrol car as a baying crowd hurls glass bottles at them. This is lawless New York

    Ah, awesomely well, I see.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Experts compare the disruption and stress of the coronavirus pandemic to living through a war, or the Great Depression’

    Yeah righto. Experts.

    The past 70 odd years have undeniably been the greatest single time to be alive in human history in terms of lack of world conflict, disease eradication, life expectancy, numbers above poverty lines, access to cheap electricity, food and water, education, the ability to travel and technological advances. Cannot be argued with.

    Like a ball bearing that’s been smoothly and seamlessly fanging along the Large Hadron Collider for decades until someone throws half a dozen grains of sand in it.

    *miniscule wobble*

    OMG! Worst thing that’s happened to anyone ever in the history of everything! Totes devo!

  125. Because I am old, now 94, I recognise these omens of doom. Chilling signs are everywhere,

    Joe Biden on his latest medical report.

  126. Yesterday was another day of having never watched Tiger King.

    Me too.
    I think we’ve survived the hysteria intact.
    Gay tigers?
    Yeah nah nah nah

  127. Devo – I just read the T&C’s about betting on who the DemNom will be. It’s paid out on who is nominated at the DNC convention, not who is on the ballot in November.
    Cashed out for a $5 loss.
    Sad.
    There goes my $150 becomes $33k dreams ☹️

  128. Knuckle Dragger

    26 people in Melbourne hospitals. Three in intensive care.

    Melbourne population: 4.96 million.

    Solution: Weld shut the doors on nine of the biggest, most feral, antisocial ice-infested houso palaces in the joint to appease several dozen been-nowhere, done-nothing ‘health’ spastics who just happen to belong to one of Danxi’s most powerful and influential (not to mention minted) lobby groups.

    Anyone else notice that the definition of ‘pandemic’ is vastly different now to what it was in January?

  129. Knuckle Dragger

    Gropey Joe’s response to Kanye West having a crack at the POTUS job:

    ‘You ain’t black.’

  130. Solution: Weld shut the doors on nine of the biggest, most feral, antisocial ice-infested houso palaces in the joint to appease several dozen been-nowhere, done-nothing ‘health’ spastics who just happen to belong to one of Danxi’s most powerful and influential (not to mention minted) lobby groups.

    So writes an authentic authoritarian.

  131. You vote for Kanye, you ain’t black!
    Joe Biden
    🤣🤣

  132. MemoryFault

    So writes an authentic authoritarian.

    Who just happens to be spot on correct.
    Unlike our tiresome draft dodger.

  133. Got me by “this” much, Knuckles.
    Goddamn it.

  134. MV, how are you up dude?
    You were more pist than me usually last night!
    Respect

  135. Mater

    One 94 year-old’s view-

    Bob,
    That article was written nearly three years ago.
    The author died more than a year and a half ago.
    Short of using a Ouija board, we can’t be sure that he’s up to date with the latest developments in America…or the pandemic.

    P.S. He’d be 97 years old.

  136. Knuckle Dragger

    Reminds me of the time Liability Bob jumped on board the Assumption Bus after watching a 94 year old Holocaust survivor on the teev.

    ‘He is old and wise,’ he said. ‘He calls it as he sees it,’ he said, having no idea who this bloke was other than a Holocaust survivor.

  137. MemoryFault

    MV, how are you up dude?

    Practice. Decades of practice.
    Morning Gunner.

  138. MemoryFault

    Won’t be driving anywhere for a bit but.

  139. Knuckle Dragger

    Pro tip for Houso Palace watchers:

    Have a look at fruit and veg prices in Melbourne over the next little while if the cave lockdown continues.

    Every morning at about 4.00 a.m. the mini buses pull up out the front of them, which are then packed full of illegal immigrants doing cashies at the market gardens* owned and operated by our Mediterranean, and in some case Asian brothers.

    There’s no labour for the MGs. The operators will be screaming from the rooftops. There’ll be next to nothing in the markets, and what there will be will be priced through the goddamned roof.

    #nostradamus
    #sitbackandwaitcostoldyous

    *Misnomer. Less a garden than a series of farms on Melbourne’s outskirts. Highly lucrative for the, ahem, operators.

  140. Who just happens to be spot on correct.

    “Correct” about what?
    Locking people in a high rise because they’re “feral, antisocial (and) ice-infested”, or because, as Dettol Donny claims, the virus is harmless, even though it has killed 132,542 Americans?

  141. RDO Monday for me.
    Coffee,smokes&salted peanuts for breakfast.
    Then a few domestics today in preparation for my move out in a fortnight. Just around the way.
    Landlord shouldn’t have put my rent up. Bad timing!
    Now I save $100 a month and get a bigger, nicer apartment. Safer too. Undoxxable address.
    Rentals are rooted down here. Only 3 prospects showed at the two open inspections I went to. And two were myself and a couple that went to both.
    Im kicking myself that I didn’t ask out the tall,hot lawyer chickie I was speaking to at the first one.
    Absolutely spewing now.
    I’m losing my in person game. Damn you internet dating!

  142. calli

    Back from my first-light walk. The full moon was so bright it illuminated the course for walking, but the roos were perfectly camouflaged against the silvery background.

    Until I walked into them. They are so tame they don’t immediately hop away, just swivel gently to the next patch of sweet grass.

    I noticed that some of the big old males are MIA. Coupled with the sound of gunfire I heard a couple of weeks ago, I can surmise where they have gone.

  143. Win

    I don’t remember the ABC and Four Corners doing a piece on the 2011 Floods in Brisbane with people living in tents whilst Rudd housed boat people in The Palms Motel and paid millions for cleaning and renovations to the rooms For each new arrival. not to mention health care dentistry and spending money.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘”Correct” about what?
    Locking people in a high rise because they’re “feral, antisocial (and) ice-infested”, or because, as Dettol Donny claims, the virus is harmless, even though it has killed 132,542 Americans?’

    God, you are thick. Sometimes I think it’s an act you put on, such is the level and noise of the nonsense you come up with – but you really are dense.

    First, it was an anti-Andrews post. An ANTI-authoritarian post, you gigantic tool.

    Second, 150,000 people die every day. Every single day. And you also ignore that throughout the vast majority of those 132,000 ‘Covid’ fatalities, they include those herded to their deaths in nursing homes, those that were already suffering severe if not life-threatening conditions, and asymptomatic people who demonstrably died of other causes that tested positive either ante or post mortem.

    Still, the expectation bar’s pretty low for Mr 93.1% and who paid $15,000,000 in tax. Shocked, yet not surprised.

    And yes, they should be locked in the caves because they’re feral, anti-social and ice-infested, and society would be a better place if they were then firebombed and the remains bulldozed into the Maribyrnong.

  145. MemoryFault

    Im kicking myself that I didn’t ask out the tall,hot lawyer chickie I was speaking to at the first one. Absolutely spewing now.

    Gunner – you forgot the Golden Rule

  146. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I’m losing my in person game. Damn you internet dating!’

    I know right?

    Stay in the game at every opportunity. Perfect practice makes perfect!

  147. I’m blaming Dan’s Lockdown. No practice in-field for months.
    Bastard he is.

  148. Farmer Gez

    Should have applied for a job as a security guard Tailgunner.
    Plenty of up close and personal chat up opportunities and a free hotel room for the victory lap.

  149. MemoryFault

    No practice in-field for months.

    One year six months six days and about four hours.
    But who’s counting?

  150. Neil

    I don’t remember the ABC and Four Corners doing a piece on the 2011 Floods in Brisbane with people living in tents whilst Rudd housed boat people in The Palms Motel

    In 2015 Coalition made some changes to Labors Robodebt scheme and the ABC had the hide to publish how many people died since those changes were made. It turns out it was a normal death rate but it morphed into the Coalition was responsible for those deaths on social media

    ABC using taxpayers money to generate hatred against the Coalition

  151. Mater

    In 2015 Coalition made some changes to Labors Robodebt scheme and the ABC had the hide to publish how many people died since those changes were made. It turns out it was a normal death rate but it morphed into the Coalition was responsible for those deaths on social media

    It’s much like Bob here on this blog. A couple of convenient omissions here, a couple of ambiguous weasel words there, and ‘PRESTO’, a piece that gives the right narrative, but has sufficient ‘outs‘ if questioned in depth.
    Most won’t research or question what they read/hear. Just blindly accept.

  152. Should have applied for a job as a security guard Tailgunner

    I was actually working at one of the plague hotels on Wednesday morning last week, big broken mirror in a lift. Plenty of spin bowlers in security gear wandering around outside.
    If I was short of work I’d apply for the header driver job posted here yesterday, can’t remember by whom.
    No experience, but I’m a fast study. And I can drive like the wind.

  153. MemoryFault

    ABC using taxpayers money to generate hatred against the Coalition

    Scandalous!
    I happily do it for free.

  154. Eyrie

    Tailgunner, that was me posting the header driver jobs. About 6 weeks in October/November. Serious.

  155. Boambee John

    You forgot the context – an isolationist USA with a narcissist in charge

    The bin chicken finally comes to realise that FDR was not a great president.

  156. Eyrie

    MemoryFault, don’t be so cheap. Half price will do. A workman is worthy of his hire.

  157. Cassie of Sydney

    “Knuckle Dragger
    #3504572, posted on July 6, 2020 at 7:07 am
    Gropey Joe’s response to Kanye West having a crack at the POTUS job:

    ‘You ain’t black.’”

    Thanks KD…always good to have a laugh so early in the day!

  158. Neil

    It’s much like Bob here on this blog. A couple of convenient omissions here, a couple of ambiguous weasel words there

    WEll he is not funded by the taxpayer. This is the article which has generated hatred against the Coalition. Down the bottom of the paper it states the 2,030 people who died after Coalition made changes to Labors Robodebt scheme was just a normal death rate. But most people do not read the article to the bottom

    Has the ABC ever published an article stating how many people have died after a govt policy change?

    https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/2030-people-have-died-after-receiving-centrelink-robodebt-notice/10821272

  159. Crossie

    Young Australians are struggling in record numbers to cope with the anxiety of watching their world turned upside down.

    Experts compare the disruption and stress of the coronavirus pandemic to living through a war, or the Great Depression, but this is a crisis on a scale most of their parents, and even their grandparents, never had to face.

    Ooh, look at that, we’re all in this together! Actually no, the bureaucratic class and their ABC are the only ones who are not. The 250 the ABC is setting go? With “well deserved” packages. There will be justice in this land when the ABC and SBS have smaller budgets than Sky News.

  160. Mater

    The bin chicken finally comes to realise that FDR was not a great president.

    Bob always denigrates Churchill for abandoning Australia and wanting to send troops to Burma, rather than home for self defence.

    Look at Curtin’s diary for 21 Feb 1942. Five days after the confirmation of the fall of Singapore and two days after the bombing of Darwin.

    “Receives cables from Churchill and Roosevelt repeating their arguments for retaining Australian troops for the reinforcement of Burma.

    Attends War Cabinet meeting at Parliament House to consider cables. War Cabinet repeats demand for return of troops.”

  161. First, it was an anti-Andrews post. An ANTI-authoritarian post, you gigantic tool.

    So, “welding the doors shut” is suddenly not authoritarian?
    The English language is indeed flexible, but you have just broken it.

    Second, 150,000 people die every day. Every single day. And you also ignore that throughout the vast majority of those 132,000 ‘Covid’ fatalities, they include those herded to their deaths in nursing homes, those that were already suffering severe if not life-threatening conditions, and asymptomatic people who demonstrably died of other causes that tested positive either ante or post mortem.

    So, you’re a strong supporter of involuntary euthanasia, or these lives were actually worthless – which is it?

    And yes, they should be locked in the caves because they’re feral, anti-social and ice-infested, and society would be a better place if they were then firebombed and the remains bulldozed into the Maribyrnong.

    Sounds a bit like Darwin as I remember it from 2015, last time I was there. Has it improved?
    Maybe the Japs had the right idea between February 1942 and November 1943.

  162. hzhousewife

    Very interesting KD, about the cashie jobs in market gardens. I noticed one person saying they had lived in the towers for 18 years. I imagine there will be all kinds of irregular activities uncovered by this lockdown. The towers really should be razed to the ground, once in them people have no incentive to join the ordinary Australian way of life and be absorbed into our country.

    We travelled Eden-Monaro last week, in a break-out move. Must recommend the Killer Whale Museum in Eden and the Soldiers Memorial in Goulburn, equal best small museums, take only an hour or so of your time and very interesting. Best coffee shop was Deadwood in Braidwood. Saw enough timber to furnish the planet. Very patchy fire damage, an awful lot is yet unburnt. Lots of hi-vis vests working, lots of machinery. Townships need to have big cleared zones around them IMHO. No trouble getting accommodation. Saw two BLM signs high up on power poles. Mostly Lib and Nat posters south of Batemans Bay, we did not go to Queanbeyan. Fantastic drive from Cooma to Tumut in bright sunshine the other day, reminded us that we have a fabulous country, feel privileged to be able to see it.

  163. Farmer Gez

    Another small victory in the hearts and minds campaign.

    I told a bloke I know, who thought Dan was beaut at the start of the virus lockdowns, that Dan Xi Man was the worst kind of leader to have at this time and his arrogance would bring him undone.

    Ran into him yesterday and he gave Dan a big serve, “just like you said Gez.”
    My work is done.

  164. Boambee John

    Maybe the Japs had the right idea

    The bin chicken uses an ethnic slur, lucky he is a so-called “progressive”, else the thought police would cancel him!

  165. Mother Lode

    I note Rowe is painting the results of Eden-Monaro as a humilation for the Libs (and presumably therefore a satisfying victory for Labor).

    Makes me think of that scene in 1984 when Winston Smith’s meal in a Victory Cafe when a clarion call from the televisor interrupts his meal. There is an announcement that the chocolate ration will be increased to 4 grams, but Winston clearly remembers that it was ‘increased’ to 5 grams the week before.

    Rowe would be one of the enthusiastic morons who would be clapping wildly because they are getting an increase – they just said so!

  166. calli

    Rowe would be one of the enthusiastic morons who would be clapping wildly because they are getting an increase – they just said so!

    Chuckle. And right on cue, we have Boris and Co. Straight out of the Orwell Instruction Book.

  167. calli

    Is it uncharitable of me to find “Clap for Carers” a little ambiguous?

    Perhaps “Applause“ was too big a word.

  168. MemoryFault

    the bureaucratic class and their ABC are the only ones who are not.

    Good morning Crossie.
    There were others “exempted”. We have a young relative staying with us. He works for a meat processing company. Completely self-contained, integrated business. Company buyers get the stock – older sheep. Trucked to works, slaughtered, skinned, boned, butchered, packed, chilled, and trucked down to Brisbane airport for immediate air freight to China. All in house.No other employees, customers or destinations.

    Declared an “essential service” on the very first day. Operations now protected by law.
    We’re all in this together.

  169. Dr Faustus

    There are many things that puzzle me.
    Why are the mighty CMO’s applauding a 5-day lockdown when ‘the Science’ says 14 days incubation?

    Is there a high speed Victorian Covid?
    Is this based on Chinese paper factory research?

  170. mh

    USA Covid-19 new deaths 228, yesterday 254.
    Things are going in the right direction.
    The media meanwhile goes hysterical about new case numbers, ignoring deaths are way down.

  171. Nick

    Or The Princess Bride, for that matter.

    Inconceivable!

  172. Mater

    Why are the mighty CMO’s applauding a 5-day lockdown when ‘the Science’ says 14 days incubation?

    Dr Faustus,
    My understanding is that the 5 days is their estimate as to how long it will take to test them all. Should anyone not be willing to undertake the test, 14 days it is.

    But, then again, who understands anything that’s going on down here?

  173. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    18m
    New China Virus Cases up (because of massive testing), deaths are down, “low and steady”. The Fake News Media should report this and also, that new job numbers are setting records!

  174. Dr Faustus

    Baltimore protesters topple Christopher Columbus statue, throw it into harbour

    Baltimore City Council President Brandon Scott said in a statement he had previously suggested the statue be removed, according to WBAL.
    “I support Baltimore’s Italian-American community and Baltimore’s indigenous community,” the statement said.
    “I cannot, however, support Columbus.”

    It’s not immediately clear what grievance the Italian-American community might have with Christopher Columbus.

  175. Doctor Faustus:

    There are many things that puzzle me.
    Why are the mighty CMO’s applauding a 5-day lockdown when ‘the Science’ says 14 days incubation?

    Covid Theatre, mate.

  176. mh

    Canungra temp fell below zero this morning.
    Bob’s old stomping ground.

  177. calli

    Brendan Murphy was on Sunrise this morning. The short version when challenged with the idea that we can’t be locked down forever – we have to get used to it.

  178. Dr Faustus

    Thanks Mater.

    So, I assume the cunning plan is to lockdown any Covid cases identified for a further 14 days.

    Sounds like 3 weeks of high rotation hysteria in Dannograd.

  179. Cardimona

    ScienceCats

    A question; what’s the source of the immense SO2 mass hovering over the east coast of Japan?
    https://www.windy.com/-SO2-tcso2?tcso2,6.096,131.740,3
    I’ve checked my favourite earthquake and volcano sites and I’m not seeing a mention….

  180. Cardimona

    The source of the SO2 mass seems to be about 1500 km east of Taiwan and 1200 km south of Japan.

  181. Knuckle Dragger

    Gunner, 8.12;

    ‘plenty of spin bowlers’

    Gold.

  182. Eyrie

    Cardimona, It seems to be from southern China. Have a look at the 850 to 500 hPa winds.

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    Alternatively, Old Yeller ten minutes later:

    ‘Maybe the Japs had the right idea’

    If they’d turned up 70 years later and targeted the right places, certainly. But a bit of pompous white-knighting early in the morning never hurt anyone. Right.

    Low energy. Only one rung up from your usual ‘debil-debil’ cultural appropriation. Sad, weak old man who abandoned his principles. A cautionary tale for younger Australians.

  184. mh

    Her majesty would not be amused.

    In this newly surfaced photo from 2002, Ghislaine Maxwell, the just-captured accused madam of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, sits on Queen Elizabeth II’s throne during a private tour of Buckingham Palace.

    At her side in the matching, plushly upholstered throne of Prince Philip, is actor Kevin Spacey…

  185. Knuckle Dragger

    Doing a stupid course for work. This is in the course overview:

    ‘Facilitators should consider the literacy and numeracy or other learning difficulties of participants, so that training may be customised appropriately.’

    Way to dumb this shit down. Participation ribbons for everyone.

    Mind you, they might need to dumb it down, looking at the number of spacks in here.

  186. rickw

    Daily dose of Vietnam!!

  187. min

    Bonking bouncers or Weet Bix without milk I wonder what will be the worst for Chairman Dan.
    I have been in semi lockup since the start because I live in retirement apartments and worse because family are frontline medicos so no visitors until recently however as I am old enough to have lived through WWII , polio epidemics, recessions , rationing , paid less for same job as a teacher I reckon I probably have more
    resilience than young ones these days .

  188. Cardimona

    Eyrie at 0917

    Thanks, would be so kind as to share your link, good sir?
    Your site sources are likely better than mine.

  189. Cardimona

    My region’s Daily Mudroch ran this story today …

    Web of lies has deadly effects

    CONSPIRACY theorists are using Facebook to urge Australians to refuse vital coronavirus tests, sparking calls for a clampdown on the sinister “infodemic” of deadly misinformation spreading like wildfire.

    Threats of a second wave of the virus failed to convince 10,000 Victorians to undergo crucial testing and self-isolate last week.

    Victoria’s Health Minister Jenny Mikakos said it was disappointing that conspiracy theories were circulating, with more than half a million lives lost from the disease globally.

    As news broke of the Victorian test refusals, people took to social media to spread bizarre theories and urge others to decline the swabs.

    “Stick it to this corrupt government fabricating Covid deaths to push there (sic) UN Agenda in Australia,” one woman wrote, citing a long debunked conspiracy theory that the UN is trying to install a global dictatorship.

    “5G monitoring system,” one man replied, ignoring all scientific advice to draw a link between the new mobile phone towers and the virus.

    Others called it a “globalist” or “Satanist” attempt at “mind control”, another dubbed the deadly virus a “scamdemic”, while others accused the “New World Order’’ of trying to take over the country.

    La Trobe University Associate Professor Andrea Carson is part of a group of academics and journalists enlisted to meet with Facebook a few times a year to help advise and educate the social media company on topics such as misinformation. She said Facebook had expressed concern about the rapid and massive spread of misinformation around the virus and wanted to turn people toward trusted sources.
    “It has become a wild west and it has real-life consequences,” she said.

    Dr Carson said Facebook had previously been reluctant to take down comments and preferred to “dial down their algorithm” to make dubious posts less visible. But that was changing and comments were now being deleted.

    However a day after the conspiracy theorists began bombarding news stories about Victoria, the comments remained visible and supporters continued to believe them.

    In a statement yesterday, a Facebook spokesperson said the company was aggressively going after misinformation about the pandemic and set up teams dedicated to the effort.

    So I have replied like so …

    The Editor

    Regarding your article “Web of lies has deadly effects” (CP, 06/07), I don’t do Facebook so I don’t know what’s been said there.

    But I do read a lot of published science and I will confirm publicly that the “web of lies” is flowing from sections of our own governments.

    COVID-19 has some unusual features but it’s still just the flu and no more deadly than many previous flu events.

    Our governments appear to be trying to prevent all flu deaths, which is unrealistic, impossible, unasked for, and economically suicidal.

    Lockdowns are unlawful, unhelpful, and counter-intuitive. So who’s behind it? The Chinese-owned UN’s WHO. Draw your own conclusions as to where that leads.

    (113 words)

  190. mh

    Red Guards in Britain: China Ambassador Calls on Chinese Students in UK to ‘Serve the Motherland’

    Harkening back to the rhetoric of Mao Zedong during the Cultural Revolution, China’s ambassador in London has called on Chinese university students studying in the United Kingdom to “serve your motherland”, amid growing concern about the influence of Beijing on Western campuses.

    In recently unearthed comments made to the Chinese Government Award for Outstanding Self-financed Students Abroad, Ambassador Liu Xiaoming said: “I hope you will carry on the glorious tradition of patriotism. I hope you will always live your personal dreams in the greater cause of striving for the Chinese Dream of national rejuvenation.”

    “I hope with what you have learned here and now, you could serve your motherland and people in the future. And I hope your youthful vigour will drive you on as you work harder to realize your dream,” Liu added.

    In response to the comments, Professor Christopher Hughes of the London School of Economics told The Times: “The idea of patriotism, in the Chinese context, means supporting the Communist Party. It means wanting unification with Taiwan. It means completely crushing Tibetan aspirations for autonomy. It means crushing Hong Kong. It challenges a lot of our principles of academic freedom.”

    “The more Chinese students there are, the more they are controlled and used by the Chinese embassy. There are various groups that are set up to monitor their behaviour. So they don’t feel secure. That means you get creeping self-censorship.”…

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/05/red-guards-in-britain-china-ambassador-calls-on-chinese-students-in-uk-to-serve-the-motherland/

  191. Roger

    That’s a great site, Cardi. Bookmarked for future reference.

  192. Roger

    Victoria’s Health Minister Jenny Mikakos said it was disappointing that conspiracy theories were circulating, with more than half a million lives lost from the disease globally.

    Says she who presided over the security guards fiasco.

  193. Eyrie

    Cardimona, Windy lets you look at the winds at levels up to 45000 feet. Select wind from the upper right buttons and then below that you see the levels. Just move the slider up. FL450 means 45000 feet referenced to a sea level pressure of 1013.2 hPa.
    Looks to me like the winds from southern China are carrying the SO2 into the area you see it and there seems to be relatively stagnant air there due to it being what is known as a “col” area, the intersection of a trough and a ridge. There’s a low to the NW and another to the SE and a ridge extending to the SW between them. Seems to extend fairly high.
    I used to do this stuff for a living at the BoM although spent most of my time working for them seconded to the RAAF at 2FTS.

  194. Old School Conservative

    It is as foolish for Americans to believe that their generals will save them from Trump as it was for liberal Germans to believe the military would protect the nation from Hitler’s excesses.

    Numbers is now advocating for a military coup in the USA.
    That’s another shark jumped.
    Still, his musings are as funny as Toms Toons, just later in the day.

  195. rickw

    QF B747 ferry flight out today, destination Arizona.

    No joy flight send off options for Melbournistan residents due to lockdown.

  196. mh

    Epstein Victims’ Lawyer Warns Ghislaine Maxwell Will Die in Jail

    Lawyer Spencer Kuvin told the Daily Mail there are fears among Epstein’s victims Maxwell, 58, “knows too much” and there are powerful people who will work to prevent her testifying in court.

    “I don’t think she is going to get out of jail alive,” Kuvin said. “I said the same thing about Jeffrey Epstein and people laughed at me.”

    “I think she knows way too much information – I just have this gut feeling.”

    Jeffrey Epstein was arrested last July but died in prison less than a month later while awaiting trial on charges of sex trafficking minors…

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/05/epstein-victims-lawyer-warns-ghislaine-maxwell-will-die-in-jail/

  197. Nick

    Interesting that notes have been posted in Chinese for the residents of Dan’s towers of terror.
    Chinese? I know they live free stuff like a pig loves gruel, though how did Chinese low income earners get residency?

  198. twostix

    However a day after the conspiracy theorists began bombarding news stories about Victoria, the comments remained visible and supporters continued to believe them.

    Can’t have people believing their own lying eyes now, can we!

    I mean, I’m pretty sure we were ordered to believe that two months ago if we didn’t all immediately install a government tracking application on our mobile phones hundreds of thousands of people were going to die and we’d never “beat” the virus or be released from “lockdown”.

    People who called that out as complete bullshit were maligned as “consipracy theorists” and “murderers”…yet here we are, mobile app DOA and no hundreds of thousands dead.

  199. twostix

    Back in January if people had of gone on Facebook and commented to our on-media-call “experts” and told them that the governments of this country can and will put the entire population of Australia into “lockdown” – including banning churches from opening, will put up internal borders and checkpoints and will ultimately barricade residents into their apartments and threaten them, we know what they would have said. The ABC and The Conversation would have run articles calling those people “nutjobs” and “conspiracy theorists” and would have smugly quoted legislation and the constitution and precedent at you as to why that situation simply is impossible and ridiculous you tin-foil-hat wearing proles, and explained why Facebook should ban them.

  200. Cardimona

    Eyrie at 0939; thank you, I hadn’t tried that slider before.

    I’m still stumped as to the source of the SO2 mass, though.
    I’ve been saving pollution screenshots each Monday since the January bushfires and I’ve not seen anything like that SO2 mass before.

    While you were composing your response to me I was looking at Nullschool’s 500 hpa
    https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/500hPa/orthographic=-226.39,31.02,912
    and 700 hpa and 850 hpa layers
    https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-226.39,31.02,912
    but they’re not really tallying with the SO2 mass showing on Windy either
    https://www.windy.com/-SO2-tcso2?tcso2,26.741,144.460,3
    so I’m still baffled as to what has caused it.

  201. twostix

    Brendan Murphy was on Sunrise this morning. The short version when challenged with the idea that we can’t be locked down forever – we have to get used to it.

    This is and always was a political question.

    Our political system was suspended and handed over to medical bureaucrats whose answer to everything is always authoritarianism.

  202. Cardimona

    twostix, great observations!

    I send several letters per day to several newspapers without the expectation of them being printed but with the hope of causing cognitive dissonance in what passes as the minds of the Marxists ji’smists.
    So far I have flipped one editor – he was sacked a short while later…
    Another writer in my region flipped another editor.
    He was eventually sacked, too…

  203. twostix

    We know that our academic and bureaucratic classes are enamored with the Chinese model of governance. They keep telling us how good it is every chance they get in their outlets.

    So how do we know that the decisions they’re making are being made purely on medical and scientific and not being polluted by their ideological thinking? Why is their answer to every question always, 100% of the time to do what China is doing? From mass “lockdown”, to masks, to forced testing, forced this, forced that, mass survellience, government monstering of everyone – the answer is always the China model.

    It’s not a coincidence. They have a vision for a future society in mind and they’re going to get us there under the cover of this if they’re allowed to.

  204. Knuckle Dragger

    My ‘facilitator’ muppet is left handed, and apparently has a Russian wife.

    This madness must end.

    No WTC though. Small mercies.

  205. cohenite

    egg_
    #3504530, posted on July 6, 2020 at 3:30 am

    That sums it up; it was a fool of a female but it could have just as easily been a pasty faced young male: something went wrong with the gene pool and/or upbringing in the West that things like this exist. What a ghastly person: everything wrong with the West can be traced back to hysterical babies like that. And the thing is the people nominally in power take notice of it.

  206. COVID-19 has some unusual features but it’s still just the flu and no more deadly than many previous flu events.

    You should hope it’s not published, because that particular statement is bullshit.

    From the Hopkins medicine website –

    COVID-19: In the U.S, 128,062 people have died of COVID-19, as of July 2, 2020.

    In the U.S., from Oct. 1, 2019 – Apr. 4, 2020, the CDC estimates that 24,000 to 62,000 people died from the flu.

    I’m wondering about your definition of “no more deadly” given that in the USA the death rate is between five times and twice that of influenza.
    It must be another example of flexible use of the English language.

  207. stackja

    Cardimona – The media thread to me shows the end is nigh. What will editors edit?

  208. Roger

    ‘This morning I was visited by the police and warned. I was informed that two complaints had been made against me for serving drinks inside the premises. All for making someone a cup of tea and being human enough to let them have it inside. Last year my business was burgled and trashed and drug dealing was going on in the park that my business overlooks. And what happened then? Absolutely nothing. This isn’t the kind of country that my grandfather fought to preserve.’

    From Peter Hitchens’ Sunday column, quoting a cafe owner.

  209. Struth

    You only have to look at the race flags hanging in front of every hospital and most government buildings to know where the enemies of a united Australia are located.
    And we are meant to believe these drop kicks?
    We are meant to live under their authority?
    Everyone in Australia should be made to visit a remote community to see how that will end up.

  210. mh

    NSW closing it’s border with Victoria.

  211. Infidel Tiger King

    NSW closing it’s border with Victoria.

    Good stuff.

    Now every other state in the Federation needs to open their borders with each other and exclude the third World leper colony on the Yarra.

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