Open Forum: July 4, 2020

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  1. calli

    In the U.S., from Oct. 1, 2019 – Apr. 4, 2020, the CDC estimates that 24,000 to 62,000 people died from the flu.

    That’s remarkable. Don’t they know? In 17/18 it was 80,000 according to this article.

    I’d be interested in projected and additional deaths.

  2. Warwick

    Further to the Victorian security guard fiasco. As I have previously written, I do work as a licensed security officer and the industry is in rotten shape. No question. However, security guards are called to work in many different scenarios, often at short notice. I am a university educated middle aged man and sometimes I turn up on site and have no idea what I am meant to be doing. It can often be a total clusterf**k. Think of security guards as just being privates in the army. They need leadership and training to perform the role required. The leadership in this case would need to come from the Health people running the show. My understanding was the operation was run by Health and Human Services – the Commonwealth agency. Lots of very highly paid people onsite managing the show. So whilst the guards may have performed poorly, don’t allow those running the show to avoid scrutiny. It was their operation. In my experience very few people want to actually assume the level of responsibility their pay grade demands.

  3. twostix

    NSW closing it’s border with Victoria.

    Isolate and embargo the Chinese infiltrated bolshevik state!

    Sort your out of control government out victorians or get used to being the Cuba of this region.

  4. Roger

    Sort your out of control government out victorians or get used to being the Cuba of this region.

    In Queensland we’ve long since referred to Victorians as Mexicans.

    But we never imagined we’d one day close the border to them.

  5. calli

    Can we send you guys Care Parcels?

  6. EvilElvis

    Is it uncharitable of me to find “Clap for Carers” a little ambiguous?

    The ethnic security guards have certainly taken it on face value, Calli. And damned if they’re not doing their best to make it so.

    The true heroes of this crisis.

    *Golf clap…

  7. Old School Conservative

    Roger
    #3504712, posted on July 6, 2020 at 10:10 am
    From Peter Hitchens’ Sunday column, quoting a cafe owner.

    Chilling reading, including the “dob in culture” that led to the police visit.
    I think Hitchins is right – 85% of the population believe in the new religion of authoritarianism.

  8. cohenite

    Great toons Tom; except for the british rats; and right on que the stinking troll turns up lying again about the chunk virus and rates of death.

    The facts are the chunk virus affects mainly old people; other people who die from it have a comorbidity. The vast majority of people who catch it have no symptoms at all. This is well established. Overall the death rate from the chunk virus this time is similar to the death rate from the previous chunk virus in 2009.

    The take away point is there is no justice since the troll has not caught the chunk virus.

  9. stackja

    Daily Telegraph reports NSW Vic border to close. Dan 10:45 appearance.

  10. Dr Faustus

    I’m still stumped as to the source of the SO2 mass, though.

    The source of the mass is likely the Souther China Plains. Early in the year, conspiracy theorists suggested that the anomalous increase in SO2/NOx centered on Wuhan was due to a high level of Covid19 cremations. Snopes (yes, I know) kicked this one into the long grass.

    High southern China SO2 is a thing, however. Although meteorologists and atmospheric scientists are also stumped as to the actual cause.

  11. Struth

    The fact that the propaganda is so stupid coming out of the US that the left seem not to be able to put two and two together is astounding….well, we know they don’t care about facts or reason, just about getting rid of Trump.

    Firstly….even though communists don’t seem to think so, Americans are humans, and have been in lock down as hard as Victoria in many areas and chased off their beaches just like us.
    For Months now.
    We all being humans catch viruses the same way.

    It either proves lock downs are useless or somebody’s telling fibs about the number of deaths.
    It really is that simple, so which is it?
    Please don’t quote packed trains or we’ll quote packed streets of BLM protestors.

    You may wish to believe bullshit for political reasons numbers, but people on the right see all this as totally laughable death figures as it’s plainly obvious as to who is producing them and why, and in many cases this fraudulent activity has been admitted to.
    There has been no overall death rates increases anywhere in the world.
    So if fraudulent reporting of deaths in Italy, the UK and New York have been proven , I mean FUCKING ADMITTED TO, even down the extra payments hospitals get for declaring a covid death, you cannot quote any death rates as factual.
    You just can’t.
    You’re pathetic numbers, you see to a lefty just saying it makes it true, unfortunately you may need to ply your trade over at Mumma Mia or a blog for model train enthusiasts.

    Some of us understand lefty tactics, and don’t worry, Australia is about to become a massive Corona Virus hot spot and locked down will continue, and all those who were dying of other issues will be renamed covid deaths here too, so bragging about how much better we are will need to be instantly forgotten by you.
    But that won’t be hard for you.
    It all depends on the elections in the States.
    That’s what this is all about.
    Who woulda thunk it………..of course the covid numbers would be higher in the states.
    They were always going to be.
    You could have bet your house on it.

  12. Roger

    In my experience very few people want to actually assume the level of responsibility their pay grade demands.

    At an early point in my adult life I realised that, as a precautionary measure, one had to assume that higher up white collar workers and bureaucrats were incompetent and lazy unless & until they demonstrated otherwise. Not only did this lessen dissapointment, it prevented many mistakes and not a few disasters.

    In my experience, at least, blue collar workers and tradesmen are more reliable, probably because they will pay dearly for any mistakes they make.

  13. johanna

    Spacechook, Twitter et al are all claiming the right to censor people they don’t like ‘in the public interest.’ You know, stopping the circulation of wrongthink about the virus, for example.

    Trouble is, last month’s wrongthink is this month’s rightthink. And vice versa. And since gormless politicians have flipped more often than a live goldfish on a hot barbie, they can but agree with this very useful aid to cover their mistakes.

    It is easy to see why stupid and spineless politicians go along with this stuff. What they don’t realise is that one day they will be the target.

    The gold-plated exemption from publishers’ liability that the US tech giants enjoy is an anti-competitive fix that Standard Oil could only have dreamed of. Jelly-backed legislators are terrified of overturning this monstrously dishonest state of affairs.

    Ironically, the otherwise loathsome EU is the only significant centre of opposition, having whacked them with fines and restrictions for breaches of privacy and other sins. While the EU are doing it for all the wrong reasons, the EU market is not one that they can ignore.

    In the lead up to the US election, Twitter and Facechook and Google (Youtube) have been systematically purging conservative and other right wing voices.

    Like our own Coalition, the Republican Party has a lot of dripping wets who are only there by accident or family connections. And let’s not get too uppity – there are plenty of opportunists on the other side. But, I digress.

    The point is that the Left thought they had the last election in the bag, and they didn’t. A lot of money and brainpower and corporate power is being exercised to try to ensure that it doesn’t happen again.

    As I said on the media thread (well worth reading, BTW, a lot of good insights) the power of the MSM, which now includes the tech giants, is often overestimated. But it is formidable.

    Trump is in a life and death struggle with the monopolists and oligarchs of the latest version of capitalism. Of course, their influence will dissipate in time, but he doesn’t have time.

    Meanwhile, our dopey politicians are rolling over to get their tummies tickled.

    People like Henry Bolte and Joh Bjelke-Petersen would have seen through them in a trice.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle

    A question; what’s the source of the immense SO2 mass hovering over the east coast of Japan?

    Cardi – This one is erupting fairly vigorously at the moment:

    Nishinoshima (Smithsonian)
    Nishinoshima (wiki)

    As of June 25th, 2020, the explosive-effusive eruption was still continuing, with lava flows on the northeastern slope of the volcano, as well as ash plumes reaching 2600 meters (8500 feet)[47].

    On July 4th, an ash plume reached 8300 meters (27200 ft) in height.[48].

    The volcano is just up the road (as it were) from Iwo Jima, which is also a volcano.

  15. Geriatric Mayfly

    I’m still stumped as to the source of the SO2 mass, though.

    The false colour imagery might be askew. Are you sure it is not H2S? With a billion of them, the after effects of Bat Soup could well dominate in east Asian air masses.

  16. Roger

    I think Hitchins is right – 85% of the population believe in the new religion of authoritarianism.

    It is becoming clear that = the deaths aside because their impact is mostly at the personal level – the most profound effect of the Chinese virus is to make Western nations more like China.

  17. cohenite

    This Lincoln Project is really going after Trump. They want the demorats to win, yet it is the demorats who are pulling down statues of Lincoln. The people running it are an odd mixture of hyper neocons like Kristol, friends of Trumps GoP enemies like John Weaver who worked for McCain, really conservative women like Jennifer Horn and swamp GoPs like Steve Schmidt.

  18. Old School Conservative

    the most profound effect of the Chinese virus is to make Western nations more like China.

    J. Leak has picked that theme up perfectly with his recent characterisations of Chairman Dan resplendent in Mao jacket and Red Star cap.

  19. Cassie of Sydney

    ” the most profound effect of the Chinese virus is to make Western nations more like China.”

    I believe that was the idea from the beginning…and it has worked a treat.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    This Lincoln Project is really going after Trump.

    And they faceplanted yesterday big time. I was hoping Numbers would give me an excuse to put this one up, but no. Alas.

    Anti-Trump Republican group The Lincoln Project makes epic humiliating mistake over POTUS salute (4 Jul)

    An anti-Trump Republican group was torched on social media after stepping on a rake in an attempt to attack President Donald Trump.

    The Lincoln Project objected to the President of the United States, and the nation’s commander-in-chief, for saluting during his July 4th celebration from Mt. Rushmore.

    But then it all came to a screeching halt when the prize-winning tweet about saluting came up. The gleeful rush to slam the president backfired in a big way as Twitter users quickly called out their ignorance.

    Epic fail!

  21. rickw

    Chinese? I know they live free stuff like a pig loves gruel, though how did Chinese low income earners get residency?

    What else are they going to do with all your yummy taxes?!

  22. Top Ender

    Starkey was an excellent Tv presenter as well.

    on pageHistorian quits over slavery outrage

    LONDON: A British historian who said slavery was not genocide has quit his honorary position at Cambridge University and been dropped by his publisher HarperCollins.

    The comments from David Starkey came during a period of soul searching in Britain over its colonial past.

    The Black Lives Matter movement that gained momentum after the death of George Floyd in US police custody in May saw the statue of a major slave trader dumped in Bristol harbour as protests hit cities across Britain.

    Professor Starkey is an expert on Britain’s Tudor period — in the 1500s when the slave trade was growing as European colonies across the Caribbean and the Americas expanded.

    He said in an online interview with British commentator Darren Grimes last Tuesday that the BLM movement represented “the worst side of American black culture”.

    Starkey

    “Slavery was not genocide. Otherwise, there wouldn’t be so many damn blacks in Africa or in Britain, would there? An awful lot of them survived,” he said.

    “We had Catholic emancipation at pretty much exactly the same time that we got rid of slavery in the 1830s. We don’t go on about that because it’s part of history, it’s a question that’s settled.”

    The remarks prompted Sajid Javid — a Tory former chancellor and home secretary who has talked about how his Pakistani father faced discrimination after coming to Britain — to call Professor Starkey a racist.

    “We are the most successful multiracial democracy in the world and have much to be proud of,” Mr Javid tweeted on Thursday. “But David Starkey’s racist comments (‘so many damn blacks’) are a reminder of the appalling views that still exist.”

    Cambridge University’s Fitzwilliam College accepted Professor Starkey’s resignation the next day. Canterbury Christ Church University also terminated his contract as a visiting professor. “His comments are completely unacceptable and totally go against our university and community values,” the university said in a tweet.

    HarperCollins UK called his views “abhorrent”. “Our last book with the author was in 2010, and we will not be publishing further books with him,” it said. “We are reviewing his existing backlist in light of his comments and views.”

    Grimes disassociated himself from Professor Starkey’s remarks. “Hand on heart, I wasn’t engaged enough in this interview as I should have been,” he said. “I should have robustly questioned Dr Starkey about his comments.”

    AFP

  23. Dr Faustus

    Yesterday, Albo’s new girl was all confidence:

    Labor’s Kristy McBain has officially claimed victory in the Eden-Monaro by-election, saying her party has clinched the marginal seat after preference flows secured her lead.

    This afternoon, Ms McBain said her lead of more than 1,000 votes over opponent Fiona Kotvojs meant the Liberal Party would need a 63 per cent vote on a two-party preferred basis to win.

    Today the AEC tally has reduced that lead to 739 votes.

    In any event, good move to emphasise the ALP’s wounding.

  24. johanna

    Trickler, S. If you are about, thanks for the ambient clip you posted the other night that you recommended to me.

    I liked it.

    If I were a billionaire I would love to open an Ambient Club, with appropriate music (including live performances), carefully chosen films and TV shows projected on the walls, magnificent (and very expensive) cocktails, and opulent art deco furnishings.

    Discreet and private, members only.

    Would probably lose money, but what fun!

    Oh, and thanks for posting the Dave Brubeck quartet’s timeless version of ‘Take Five.’ Never gets old. Superb.

    I noticed that apart from the black double bass player, all of the band wore tortoiseshell glasses. The pianist wore cokebottles – obviously blind as a bat otherwise.

    I can just see the ad in the music papers – ‘wanted – semi-blind musicians who like jazz. Apply to D. Brubeck at Box XYZ. Exceptions available.’ 🙂

  25. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #3504748, posted on July 6, 2020 at 11:00 am”

    I watched the whole interview last week…before the hysteria. It was excellent…Starkey is always engaging….anyway…it is all very depressing and of course there is no one on the right speaking up for him..the cowardice of the right is eternal when it comes to fighting the culture wars…no wonder the left win and win big. And of course Starkey spoke the truth about slavery and that is that slavery was not genocide.

    Anyway…David Starkey will now be erased from history…one of Britain’s greatest historians…they’ve been after him for years and now they’ve got him. And remember, we brought this on ourselves by not fighting back.

  26. Cassie of Sydney

    “In any event, good move to emphasise the ALP’s wounding.”

    Yes…and it wasn’t a convincing win…..Labor should be worried…..Labor’s primary vote has dropped.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Historian quits over slavery outrage

    History is another field that is being totally destroyed by woke. Pharmacy is also, given the pogrom against HCQ. Even engineering. It won’t be long until all university subjects will be fiction of one variety or another.

  28. Dr Faustus

    [interviewer] Grimes disassociated himself from Professor Starkey’s remarks. “Hand on heart, I wasn’t engaged enough in this interview as I should have been,” he said. “I should have robustly questioned Dr Starkey about his comments.”

    Grimes scrabbling on the verge of becoming a non-person.
    Self-denunciation for insufficient zeal may not be enough.

  29. Des Deskperson

    ‘My understanding was the operation was run by Health and Human Services – the Commonwealth agency.’

    ‘Health and Human Services’ is the name of a Victorian Government agency.

    The Commonwealth agency that used to be called ‘Human Services’ was rebadged after the 2019 election as ‘Services Australia’. I can see no obvious reason why it would be involved in managing this Victorian Government, err, initiative.

  30. P

    Two comments this morning for which I would like to express my appreciation:

    calli
    #3504561, posted on July 6, 2020 at 6:31 am

    Credit where credit is due. This piece
    from ABC is worth a look.
    Whoever put it together has done a visually beautiful job.

    I shall watch 4 Corners tonight!

    hzhousewife
    #3504619, posted on July 6, 2020 at 8:27 am

    We travelled Eden-Monaro last week, in a break-out move. Must recommend the Killer Whale Museum in Eden and the Soldiers Memorial in Goulburn, equal best small museums, take only an hour or so of your time and very interesting. Best coffee shop was Deadwood in Braidwood. Saw enough timber to furnish the planet. Very patchy fire damage, an awful lot is yet unburnt. Lots of hi-vis vests working, lots of machinery. Townships need to have big cleared zones around them IMHO. No trouble getting accommodation. Saw two BLM signs high up on power poles. Mostly Lib and Nat posters south of Batemans Bay, we did not go to Queanbeyan. Fantastic drive from Cooma to Tumut in bright sunshine the other day, reminded us that we have a fabulous country, feel privileged to be able to see it.

  31. Cassie of Sydney

    “Grimes scrabbling on the verge of becoming a non-person.
    Self-denunciation for insufficient zeal may not be enough.”

    Darren Grimes has had the British woke establishment after him before….he fought back and won. I feel for him.

  32. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘another field totally destroyed by woke’

    US bridge building. By chicks, for chicks, killed everyone when it looked noice but fell down.

  33. Dr Faustus

    127 new Victorian Covid cases overnight.

  34. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Cambridge University’s Fitzwilliam College accepted Professor Starkey’s resignation the next day.

    Cambridge University – graduating Russian spies since the 1930’s…

  35. johanna

    I think Hitchins is right – 85% of the population believe in the new religion of authoritarianism.

    It is disturbing how many people here believe this stuff. The ones who are always going on about the ‘sheeple.’ The implication is that they know better, and should be in charge.

    Never mind Brexit, never mind Trump’s election, both in the face of the full force of the authoritarians.

    Apparently there is a class of people above the ‘sheeple’ who know better. And some of them are here.

    Yikes!

  36. Struth

    Standing in the streets clapping at the sky, yet hospitals empty.
    Cardboard cut outs in the crowd stands at footy matches allowed because it is the opium of the masses.

    radical left wing anti western rallies allowed and yet there happens to be no outbreaks in some of those high rises in Melbourne at all, and they are locked down, and solitary anti lockdown mum protesting on street gets mugged by non social distancing cops, who are exempt from doing so.
    Burning and looting and stealing and killing is fine, and taking over city blocks to live in filth and the police ordered to withdraw and also defunded, until those same lefties turn up at the corrupt lefty governor’s mansion, and then they are wiped off the earth in a second, useful idiots became not useful…….

    The very same slogans used world wide for cofib 19 immediately, and the media knowingly telling massive porkies as if the internet didn’t exist.
    Event 201 just before the plandemic organises it all through the WHO, who’s bureaucrats are placed high up in every country.
    A strange fixation with infection rates when needing to quote a reason to smash a populations liberty.
    Death rates proven to be hysterically politically driven lies by the left and the MSM having an aversion to tell the stories of the dead, sniff pieces with music playing in the background as they usually love doing.
    Because in doing so more questions would need to be answered , more harm done to the cause than good.

    People so impressed with themselves, who scoff at religion as some sort of historical quackery, kneel before their saint of ignorance, Greta.

    Government just doling out money as if they know something about the incoming globalism we don’t.

    Cops from different households sitting in cars together, for hundreds of miles to fine pubs for breaching social distancing orders in surprise visits where no cofib 19 is or has ever been.
    Etc Etc ETC

    There’s much more but the insanity from ignorance and stupidity , and indeed the sheer evil this allows is astounding.

    Killing off Christianity has severe penalties that we haven’t even started to suffer.

  37. Infidel Tiger King

    Sportsbet have wound DJT in from $2.75 to $2.55 since his Masterful speechifying on Saturday.

  38. Cassie of Sydney

    “Killing off Christianity has severe penalties that we haven’t even started to suffer.”

    Liberty quote Struth.

  39. Infidel Tiger King

    More good news. There is talk of banning Chinese spyware firm Tik Tok.

  40. johanna

    Starkey – probably not related to Ringo – purged for plain speaking.

    The worst possible sin in academia.

    It was bad enough that he expressed views that were incorrect. But, doing it in plain language that everyone could understand broke the sacred code. He had to go.

  41. Megan

    It was their operation. In my experience very few people want to actually assume the level of responsibility their pay grade demands

    That is my observation as well. No responsibility or accountability and most certainly no leadership. Fiascos become a

  42. Megan

    Hmmm. The system decided to self publish while I was still typing.

    What I was about to say before the blog so rudely interrupted me was that fiascos become a regular occurrence. And we are p dying for this pitiful dross.

  43. Miltonf

    I stopped reading Hitchens quite a while ago. When someone (Trump) was actually doing something about the decline of the west he still wasn’t happy.

  44. Arnost

    How’s that woke socialist republic of yours going lefty New Yorkers? [… and 500K residents flee]

    The lefties of NY vote for a socialist utopia and then flee to “safer” more conservative areas … AND … vote for those to become same lawless socialist cesspits!

  45. Megan

    Both of my latest comments have gone into moderation because the system has decided it prefers using my email with a typo to the email it’s used for the last 12 years.

    Smartphones are clearly not all that smart.

  46. P

    Gladys Berejiklian will have some specifics on how the border closure will work.
    She’s expected at 11:45am AEST,

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It was bad enough that he expressed views that were incorrect. But, doing it in plain language that everyone could understand broke the sacred code. He had to go.

    Yes, but I’ll bet good money that Professor Starkey’s books will still be read, and his ability respected, when Black Lives Matter is receipted and filed for the mindless bullshit that it is.

  48. Dr Faustus

    The proposed TikTok ban is folly.
    Much better to have 1000’s of Chinese intelligence analysts wasting time trying to decipher millions of talentless dance, teen goalz, and dim-witted protest videos.

  49. EvilElvis

    Fantastic drive from Cooma to Tumut in bright sunshine the other day, reminded us that we have a fabulous country, feel privileged to be able to see it.

    Travelling in style too I’d imagine, hzhousewife. 😉 All the best.

  50. Struth

    Everyone knows no one died before cofib19 came along.

    And every one of those that didn’t die but did die, had an autopsy carried out on them because no doctor has ever signed a CoD certificate of a 95 year old who’s suffered many strokes, heart attacks, skin cancers and emphysema from smoking and weighs 30kilos as he wastes away, without a serious autopsy being first completed.

  51. rickw

    The proposed TikTok ban is folly.
    Much better to have 1000’s of Chinese intelligence analysts wasting time trying to decipher millions of talentless dance, teen goalz, and dim-witted protest videos.

    I know! A huge tub of shit with not a single pearl in it! Let them rummage through that bin as much as they want!

  52. rickw

    “Killing off Christianity has severe penalties that we haven’t even started to suffer.”

    Liberty quote Struth.

    Indeed!

  53. Shy Ted

    1735099
    #3504710, posted on July 6, 2020 at 10:09 am
    COVID-19 has some unusual features but it’s still just the flu and no more deadly than many previous flu events.
    You should hope it’s not published, because that particular statement is bullshit.
    From the Hopkins medicine website –
    COVID-19: In the U.S, 128,062 people have died of COVID-19, as of July 2, 2020.
    In the U.S., from Oct. 1, 2019 – Apr. 4, 2020, the CDC estimates that 24,000 to 62,000 people died from the flu.
    I’m wondering about your definition of “no more deadly” given that in the USA the death rate is between five times and twice that of influenza.

    This might help to explain things, TooBob. Sleep well.

  54. rickw

    ‘another field totally destroyed by woke’

    US bridge building. By chicks, for chicks, killed everyone when it looked noice but fell down.

    We’re headed for engineering cock ups that are so prevalent in the Third World.

    I was in Bangalore looking at at a a fit out project on the 11th floor. I commented that the columns looked rather large for it being 11th floor.

    “Yes, the first tower we built suffered a full vertical collapse when we got to the 8th floor killing 300 construction workers, we decided to make sure that it didn’t happen again.”

  55. johanna

    Megan
    #3504786, posted on July 6, 2020 at 11:45 am

    Both of my latest comments have gone into moderation because the system has decided it prefers using my email with a typo to the email it’s used for the last 12 years.

    Smartphones are clearly not all that smart.

    Tell me about it, and many others here.

    When boosters claim that AI is about to take over the world, it is hard to know whether fear or derision is the right response.

    Apart from the moronic Spaminator here, people are always complaining about autocorrect, although why they don’t just turn it off is unclear to me.

    I remember about 25 years ago a guy I knew, who was a PhD from the ANU just before they completely sold out, assuring me that voice to speech was just around the corner. It was his thing, he believed in it to the nth.

    Well, 25 years later, it is a bit better. But, the bottom line is, it is still a million miles away from human recognition. When I call Canberra Cabs, their system does not understand what I say, and after a wait, I get a human.

    I am a contralto with an entirely Australian accent.

    We were promised flying cars by The Jetsons. I suspect that the AI crowd are behind in that line.

  56. Bruce of Newcastle

    Everyone knows no one died before cofib19 came along.

    Nein News just now said the guy who died from the CCP warbug overnight was in his nineties.
    Not good, but something was going to do it in the very undistant future, if not bat crud.

  57. mh

    I went to the Age site for some laughs on the lockdown, and saw this headline

    Ugly truth: Trump’s promise of a fading pandemic and a roaring economy has gone up in smoke

    I thought how can The Age be so delusional? But then I saw the columnist – Paul Krugman. lol

  58. Infidel Tiger King

    It’s not the stupid vids, The Tik Tok app is spyware and gives them access to your data on any device its installed on.

  59. johanna

    EvilElvis
    #3504795, posted on July 6, 2020 at 11:51 am

    Fantastic drive from Cooma to Tumut in bright sunshine the other day, reminded us that we have a fabulous country, feel privileged to be able to see it.

    Travelling in style too I’d imagine, hzhousewife. 😉 All the best.

    It must be said that yesterday was a magic winter day in these parts. I lazed in the sunlight outside the mall waiting for my cab for about 20 minutes. He was a bit apprehensive, but I assured him that lazing in the sun was no problem.

    Apparently there were only three cabs working in Queanbeyan yesterday. Closure of pubs and clubs and restaurants has shut the rest of them down.

    I am keen to organise a get-together of ex work colleagues – we have been doing this every quarter for more than ten years. But, nobody wants to go to a reastaurant where we are seated so far apart that we can’t speak to each other.

    The hospitality industry is bleeding to death, but decisions are being made by people whose comfortable salaries are unaffected.

  60. woolfe

    Did those people whose homes were destroyed in the fires that ABC photographed have insurance? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-06/four-corners-portrait-of-cobargo-bushfire-recovery/12407028?nw=0

  61. Farmer Gez

    It’s a pity Joan Kirner’s not around to see her title as ‘worst premier ever’ passed to a new ALP contender.

    She mostly inherited the disasters of past premiers whereas Dan is a self made catastrophe.

  62. Mark A

    I’m all ‘virused’ out and don’t research much about it.
    What I would like to hear from others who do, what is the overall increase, if any in the monthly total death numbers?

    Is the rate increasing or going down/unchanged?

  63. Roger

    I stopped reading Hitchens quite a while ago. When someone (Trump) was actually doing something about the decline of the west he still wasn’t happy.

    There are times I disagree with Hitchens too.

    But it’s not wise to read only those who agree with us %100.

  64. Bear Necessities

    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers have given Eden-Monaro to the ALP. I suppose they didn’t see much difference between the ALP and LNP?

    It’s a bit weird though.

  65. Roger

    “Killing off Christianity has severe penalties that we haven’t even started to suffer.”

    Christianity can’t be killed off.

    Trying to simply sends it underground where it becomes stronger and grows.

    There’s an old saying, ‘The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.”

    History has proven it correct many times over.

    A society that tries to kill of Christianity will die before the church does.

  66. William the Conjuror

    Both of my latest comments have gone into moderation because the system has decided it prefers using my email with a typo to the email it’s used for the last 12 years.

    Smartphones are clearly not all that smart.

    A good tradesperson never blames her/his tools.

  67. rickw

    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers have given Eden-Monaro to the ALP. I suppose they didn’t see much difference between the ALP and LNP?

    It’s a bit weird though.

    Not really.

    1996.

    ALP have always theoretically been anti-gun, fishing, farming.

    LNP have been actually been anti-gun in particular. Do the crime, do the time.

  68. William the Conjuror

    Everyone knows no one died before cofib19 came along.

    Nein News just now said the guy who died from the CCP warbug overnight was in his nineties.
    Not good, but something was going to do it in the very undistant future, if not bat crud.

    Maybe. But for the virus he might have made 100+ years and been celebrated for doing so.

  69. johanna

    Just been watching the clip with Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner.

    Brooks relates that he was suspicious about the numbers for his movie, ‘The Producers.’ He was told that he could examine the books, anytime.

    It turned out that they kept the books in Fairbanks, Alaska.

    Hollywood has been lying about the numbers forever, and they were allowed to do it. As I have mentioned, they featured a lot of crusading journalists, to keep the Press sweet. Then, they attached their stars (happy birthday Mr President) to politicians. A spot of blackmail didn’t hurt.

    What is interesting is that they don’t matter as much as they used to, not least because of their sub-standard content. All of them emoted against Trump, but he won anyway.

    What a blow to their collective vanity!

    And, since Trickler has initiated jazz classics:

  70. Roger

    Today in PRC Invasion Bingo….Bhutan!

    Payback for Bhutan’s support of India in their border stoush with China?

  71. MatrixTransform

    Can we send you guys Care Parcels?

    Whisky … send whisky

  72. Tel

    … a long debunked conspiracy theory that the UN is trying to install a global dictatorship.

    Let me see how this works … if you say you are NOT a racist, that means you really are a racist.

    When a company starts loudly denying rumours that they have somehow misplaced billions of dollars and telling everyone not to panic … that’s a great time to panic.

    And if you call your aspiring global dictatorship a “long debunked conspiracy theory” that means you still think you could be in with a chance, and perhaps some people are still fooled.

    Anything I got wrong there?

  73. Tel

    A society that tries to kill of Christianity will die before the church does.

    Egypt is still hanging in there.

  74. Struth

    … a long debunked conspiracy theory that the UN is trying to install a global dictatorship.

    Antonio Guterres needs to be told he’s been debunked.
    He, as head of the UN and one time head of Socialist International’e basically admits it.
    And even if he didn’t his actions and those of many others like that maniac Christine So and So in the UN and many countries with China prove it.

  75. Old School Conservative

    Fantastic drive from Cooma to Tumut

    I just got back to the big smoke after visiting Jindabyne.
    The Lake is the lowest I’ve ever seen it.
    Plenty of punters claim to have seen see the steps of the old submerged town Catholic Church recently.

  76. Megan

    A good tradesperson never blames her/his tools

    I don’t usually, but I still have my system testing skills and am not a fan of technology that bites the user. The smartphone was a metaphor in my narrative. 😖

  77. incoherent rambler

    Anything I got wrong there?

    You could have added:

    When it is announced that now is the ideal time for “mums and dads” to invest in the stock market, then you know that the mother of all crashes is only weeks away.

  78. Megan

    Can we send you guys Care Parcels?

    Whisky … send whisky

    Yes. Lots.

  79. Makka

    https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1279895938845356034

    2.5 million EXTRA names on US voter rolls in 2019. But Killary won the popular vote. Lol.

  80. This might help to explain things, TooBob. Sleep well.

    Links to a site called

    Liberty Nation.

    Reported on Media Bias Fact check as –

    Liberty Nation is a right biased news and opinion organization. According to their about page “We are a project of One Generation Away, a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization. And we are true to the OneGen organizational mission: to apply America’s founding principles to the issues of today. We do not endorse political candidates. We do not endorse specific legislation. But we offer our commentary, analysis and opinions – the good, the bad and the ugly — on all things related to the American political discourse.”

    Funded by / Ownership

    Liberty Nation is owned by One Generation Away, a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization, and funded through donations.

    Analysis / Bias

    In review, Liberty Nation produces articles and information that strongly favors conservative politics. There is the moderate use of loaded language that favors the right such as this: DEMS ON SOCIALISM: IGNORANCE AND ANGER. Liberty Nation utilizes poor sources that are on our questionable list such as CNS News, which has a very poor track record with fact-checkers. In general, all stories favor the right and are highly opinion-based (propaganda).

    Overall, we rate Liberty Nation Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to use of poor sources. (D. Van Zandt 11/23/2017) Updated (8/20/2018)

    Source: https://www.libertynation.com

    You need to wake up….

  81. shatterzzz

    Did those people whose homes were destroyed in the fires that ABC photographed have insurance? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-06/four-corners-portrait-of-cobargo-bushfire-recovery/12407028?nw=0
    I only read the 1st case and that couple said NO, they didn’t have insurance .. they also said they have a house in Sydney but are living on the property to take care of their animals ..

  82. Arnost

    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers have given Eden-Monaro to the ALP

    The interesting question would be from where did SFF get their votes? There was only a .5% swing against the Nats and that may well have gone to the Libs…

    Why it is interesting is that when one eliminates the “rabble” (sorry Ricardo) and assumes that these cancel out against the Palmer and “Other” votes from the last election, then that ends up a negligible .26%. Looking only at SFF, GRN, LIB, NAT & LAB, it may be that SFF got most of the swinging Green votes (rejection of their bush-fire management?), and hence meant an ultimate preference flow back to Labor.

  83. Top Ender

    One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has been dropped by Channel 9 after she went on a spectacular offensive against the Melbourne residents trapped inside nine housing commission towers, calling them “drug addicts” and saying they should have learnt English before coming to Australia.

    “The Today show has advised Pauline Hanson that she will no longer be appearing on our programme as a regular contributor,” Nine’s Director of News and Current Affairs Darren Wick said in a statement.

    “We don’t shy away from diverse opinions and robust debate on the Today show. But this morning’s accusations from Pauline Hanson were ill-informed and divisive. At a time of uncertainty in this national and global health crisis, Australians have to be united and supportive of one another. We need to get through this together.”

    On the Today show this morning, co-host Ally Langdon put it to the Senator that some of the tower residents hadn’t had a proper meal since Saturday.

    “Ah come on Ally, we’ve seen food being delivered there,” she replied. “The fact is a lot of them are drug addicts as well, they are getting their medication, they are alcoholics so they’re being looked after in that way.

    “They are actually getting paid extra money. Why are they getting paid extra money? For what? They are not leaving the premises.”

    Senator Hanson went on to say that an inability to speak English had led to the led to the towers being shut down.

    “A lot of these people are from non-English speaking back grounds, probably English is their second language who haven’t adhered to the rules of social distancing. They all used a lot of the same laundry,” she said.

    “So the fact is you’ve got to look at why they are in that situation. Why is it they are in that situation? Why has the Government gone to this high-rise building and shut it down? Possibly because a lot of these people weren’t doing the right thing.

    “Is the Government worried about the other areas that are shut down? You know, the people in their homes, are they able to actually get out and buy the food as well? There has to be a reason why they have targeted this set of blocks, apartment blocks. Ask that question.”

    She then suggested refugees from war-torn countries should be able to withstand being locked up.

    “You know, these people, I saw them taking a truck load of food to them, all the rest of it, if they are from war torn countries, which some of these people are, they know what it is like to be in tough conditions,” she said.

    “So I’d say, you know, have a look at the facts before you criticise and that aspect and I think the governments and all of these other, you know, these interest groups an everyone will make sure they’re well looked after.”

    Asked whether she had a heart, Senator Hanson replied that she did. But said she also had “common sense”.

    “The fact is that we’re sick and tired of people bleeding bloody hearts out there,” she said. “This is a shutdown because the rest of the state has been locked off from the rest of the country.

    “We don’t want the Victorians up here in Queensland as our premier has said. Until they clean this up, what do you think is going to happen to those people that can’t go back to their jobs, who have actually been isolated themselves, who went this isn’t one area that’s being isolated, we have got a lot of Victoria that is being isolated because these people, who cannot speak English, don’t know what the hell to do.”

    It was put to her that authorities could have done better in reaching out to the tower residents in their native language. But Senator Hanson wasn’t having a bite of it.

    “Why should we? Why should we put everything out in someone else’s language when you come to Australia,” she said.

    “We should not be putting out literature in their own language. Learn to speak English when you come here to this country. That’s a big problem that we have in Australia.”

    Sarrah Le Marquand, editor-in-chief of Stellar and Body+Soul magazine, took issue with Hanson’s views, telling the Senator during the panel discussion that her views were “an absolute nonsense”.

    “This is not a war-town country – it’s Melbourne,” Le Marquand told Hanson. “It doesn’t matter whether they speak English or where they have come from. We are talking about young children and families.”

    However, Senator Hanson argued the Australian public has already been through a lockdown and this was no different.

    “We’ve gone through months of people, the public being locked up,” she said. “We’ve gone through months where people couldn’t go to the park, gyms, couldn’t go to the park, gyms, couldn’t go anywhere. Australian people have been locked up in their homes for ages. What are you going on about now? Because they’re locked up in their homes, because they live in apartment buildings, they live in apartment buildings, the Government has taken food to them, they get paid extra money, they are getting methadone, they are given the drugs, they are looking after their addictions, what is your problem?

    “We really need to clean up the COVID-19. Make up your mind. You either want to clean up COVID-19 or you don’t. And you have to make the tough decisions if we are going to get this country back on track.”

    As the the heated segment drew to a close, Le Marquand was seen shaking her head in disbelief and responded to Hanson’s demand to show some “common sense” by saying “humanity and common sense are not contradictory terms.”

    A resident inside one of the towers in Flemington, said Senator Hanson’s comments were “disrespectful”, and the way the Government has handled the lockdown was “unbelievable” and had not been done “in a humane way”.

    Girmay Mengesha told Today he went 24 hours without food and was unable to leave his home are for any reason. He believes the Victorian Government should have done things differently.

    “Do it with dignity. Do it in a humane way,” he said. “The way that they did it is unbelievable, unwise and unacceptable.”

    news.com link

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    Took camera out at lunchtime:

    Lorikeet pool party.
    Deep thought.

    Not a good angle for the lorikeets, the white dots are water droplets going in every direction. They were delighted that I filled the cake container with fresh water earlier.

  85. MatrixTransform

    Anything I got wrong there?

    the post-modern brain-waiver…

    A perpetual impossible situation.

    all questions are framed with the desired pre-supposition.

    have you stopped beating you children?

    are you still a sexist, racist, bigot?

    it is exactly what the NumpTard tries on every morning.

  86. Infidel Tiger King

    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers have given Eden-Monaro to the ALP

    Why wouldn’t they?

    The homosexualist, bugmen Libs have done everything they can to annoy shooters, fishers and farmers.

  87. twostix

    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers have given Eden-Monaro to the ALP. I suppose they didn’t see much difference between the ALP and LNP?

    They’re picking up the vote of the the regional white working classes who like fishing and guns and 4wding and also like unions and, because of tradition, the ALP.

  88. C.L.

    America is coming to an end says Vanderbilt and Princeton prof:

    America’s Sovereignty Is Teetering on a Precipice.

    Two hundred and forty-four years after the 13 British colonies in North America declared their independence and became a sovereign nation, America is poised to collapse from within.

  89. Old School Conservative

    shooters, fishers and farmers.

    You’ve given me an earbug that keeps saying “Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name above a convenience store”

  90. MatrixTransform

    You need to wake up….

    yeah Numpty we get it … the question is, “Are y’all still asleep?”

    you predictable old fool

  91. Boambee John

    Overall, we rate Liberty Nation Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to use of poor sources. (D. Van Zandt 11/23/2017) Updated (8/20/2018)

    Source: https://www.libertynation.com

    You need to wake up….

    The bin chicken goes to a “progressive” checking site, where he discovers – horror of horrors – that not every site on the web is fully committed to so-called “progressive” propaganda. Having scratched around in the trash to do this, the bin chicken declares himself the winner!

    The bin chicken “need[s] to wake up”.

  92. notafan

    When people claim that at 4 pm Saturday they had not a single food item in their home I say give it a rest.

  93. twostix

    The “farmers” bit is a last minute tack on to the old shooters and fishers party, they’re trying to pick up ex-nationals voters and people with a bit of money and clout compared to regional labourers, however there’s an inherent class barrier between the regional working class and wealthier farmers and so it won’t work out.

    It was only one generation ago that one was the boss and one was the worker, opposing worldviews and class experiences on many things, number one insurmountable barrier being global trade and industrial relations laws.

  94. johanna

    Curse JD, who first posted this. It is an earworm that won’t go away:

  95. Old School Conservative

    The great game of Rugby Union suffered yet another one of its thousand cuts recently.
    Welsh rugby club Pontypool has banned for life a fan who supported a young girl who refused to “take a knee” for the BLM movement.

    At least we saw none of that when Super Rugby Australia opened up last weekend.
    Small mercies.

  96. thefrollickingmole

    This is Ausfailias news broadcaster spruiking magic as a real thing.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-06/in-my-blood-it-runs-how-to-help-indigenous-kids/12421408

    At the time of filming In My Blood It Runs, Dujuan Hoosan was just 10 years old, but he could see how the education system did not value his cultural knowledge.

    Dujuan is a proud Arrernte and Garrwa boy who lives in Hidden Valley town camp in Alice Springs. He also has healing powers; a gift his grandfather passed on to him.

    “It’s my job to look after the people,” he says in the film.

    Throughout the film we see Dujuan use his hands to heal his family members.

    In one scene, his aunt asks him to heal her while she is in a hospital bed with a leg wound.


    I look forward to the series on the 4 humors of the body, Phrenology and psychic surgery.

  97. He said in an online interview with British commentator Darren Grimes last Tuesday that the BLM movement represented “the worst side of American black culture”.

    Not inaccurate.
    Subjective & debatable. Yes. – (i.e. is it really worse than gangs in the ‘hood?)

  98. twostix

    Also lots of people get a taste of the SFF members like Borsak and wonder if it isn’t all a controlled oppostion.

    Most people expect a single issue protest party to be pretty extreme on the position that it’s on, ask for the stars if you want the moon and all that.

    Borsak has said that they’re not even going to bother tackling even the edges of the 1996 laws, ever. Their list of policies is more or less “whatever we have now + more gun laws – ammo registry laws”.

    They’re basically the cuckservatives of the gun rights movement.

  99. Slavery was not genocide. Otherwise, there wouldn’t be so many damn blacks in Africa or in Britain, would there? An awful lot of them survived,” he said.

    Correct & indisputable.
    His choice of subsequent words not the most …er…. diplomatic, does not change his meaning in any way.

  100. Tel

    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers have given Eden-Monaro to the ALP

    I’m pretty sure it’s the voters who get to decide what they write on their ballot in this country.

    At least, I hope so! No one is stopping you guys from pulling finger and reading what the SFF actually have to say about the matter … that might be kind of polite before going nuts over this.

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/sfp2015/pages/701/attachments/original/1592534438/Theyre_all_the_same.pdf?1592534438

    The current voting system is not perfect, but it’s the law and we have to follow it.

    If you are voting in the upcoming Eden Monaro by-election or the next Federal Election, here is how “preferences” work in under 90 seconds. Firstly, there is no such thing as parties controlling “preferences”. This is an anti-democratic myth spread by major parties who do not like minor parties growing. They scare you into believing that you cannot exercise your democratic right to number the candidates in whatever order you want to. Political parties and independents can only recommend how you vote. This is only a suggestion. Only you the voter can decide the order of your “preferences”.

    Federal House of Representatives Elections, unlike NSW State Elections, require voters to number every candidate in the order of your preference for your vote to count. It’s not the best system, but it is the system we all have to work with. It wasn’t the minor parties that made the system this way, it was the major parties.

    All the major parties are cut from the same cloth. Everybody knows there is no difference between them anymore. The Liberal Nationals have screwed Regional communities like Eden Monaro over one too many times at a State and Federal level, and the Labor Party are no better. They just haven’t had the chance recently to screw things up because they are not in Government. We are recommending going against the Governing party because they haven’t performed. If Labor was in power we would go against them too if their leader was in Hawaii while the District they claim to care about was burning to the ground.

    Our decision to recommend a vote away from the Liberal National Government has been made a lot easier given the fact that we have pleaded with both State and Federal Governments to increase back burning and give Regional landowners a greater say over their land. Just like everything with the Liberal Nationals these days they have sat on this for years, promised change, and done nothing.

    We are fighting for the forgotten people this election while they fight amongst themselves.

    In the end, as long as you vote 1 for SFF and complete the rest of the ticket in the order that you wish, your vote will count. Remember, to make a formal vote on a House of Representatives ballot paper, you need to number every box with a series of consecutive numbers according to your preference.

  101. We are the most successful multiracial democracy in the world and have much to be proud of,” Mr Javid tweeted on Thursday.

    Bullshit!

  102. twostix

    One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has been dropped by Channel 9 after she went on a spectacular offensive against the Melbourne residents trapped inside nine housing commission towers, calling them “drug addicts” and saying they should have learnt English before coming to Australia.

    This is an excuse.

    It’s just part of the general global purge, if it wasn’t today it was tomorrow.

  103. johanna

    What is so astonishing about that clip is the quiet discipline of the backing band. Every time there is an opportunity for them to ff, they back off. Wow. That is real artistristry.

  104. cohenite

    Dickheads in the media making much of Trump’s statement that 99% of chunk virus infections work out ok. They referred to John Hopkins which shows 129906 US deaths against 2880130 confirmed infections which gives a 4.5% death rate.

    The rate of asymptomatology is estimated to be 80% (WHO) although the Diamond Princess rate showed 17.9%. When they are mixed in the rate drops below 1%.

  105. johanna

    Might add that I have been watching a lot of old British movies on Youtube. Every time that I see that Muir Matheson is the musical director (which is often) my heart sinks. Loud. bombastic, etc whether it is Peer Gynt or Beethoven. The ghastly MM does his worst.

  106. Welsh rugby club Pontypool has banned for life a fan who supported a young girl who refused to “take a knee” for the BLM movement.

    I couldn’t make up stuff like this.

    Banned for life.

    Not for starting a brawl in the grandstand, or attacking club officials with a carving knife.
    For looking at a picture of a female player in a women’s rugby match in the USA standing at attention during the National Anthem, and saying it took courage to defy the Marxist directive to kneel.

    There’s nothing in the rules of Rugby Union (yet) about having to kneel & acknowledge black people’s pain.

    So a club in Wales banned him for life.

  107. Geriatric Mayfly

    He also has healing powers; a gift his grandfather passed on to him.

    Witch Doctor Cert. III at the tender age of 10. Wonder how many credits that will be worth when he starts at Medical School.

  108. Maj

    RedState trying to figure out what’s the go with Kanye West’s bid for the Presidency:

    Kanye West Announces Run for President in 2020

    In what could be a megaton blast under the 2020 Presidential Election, Kanye West announced on July 4, 2020, that he is entering the race for the Presidency.

    West has previously stated an intention to seek the Presidency but the focus has been, in the past, on the 2024 race.

    What exactly has motivated today’s announcement remains to be seen. West sent out a statement on Twitter saying only the following:

    We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States 🇺🇸! #2020VISION

    — ye (@kanyewest) July 5, 2020

    There are many, many details still to be worked out — most notably ballot access in many states. The GOP and Democrat Party tickets are set, so there is little or no chance for him to leverage his way into the race in that fashion.

    But there are Third Party slots still up for grabs if West decides to pursue such an option.

    What West would bring to any such effort by a Third Party run is instant fundraising and notoriety. Any Third Party with West on their ticket would likely break all previous records for vote totals in the general election. Fundraising would give any such Third Party the ability to build a state party apparatus it currently lacks.

    West has met with President Trump several times during his first term, and has generally been viewed as a supporter. He has worn the red and white MAGA hat in public, including during a performance on Saturday Night Live.

    In late 2018, however, he began to create distance between himself and Pres. Trump politically, and it may have been in part on him having his eye on 2020 rather than 2024.

    Could this be an effort to throw a wrench into the VP selection process of Joe Biden? The Biden campaign, and Dem party in general, seem to be having difficulty in coming to a consensus on who the best “woman of color” might be to run on the ticket as his VP. Given Biden’s age, and obvious decline in his mental capacity, if he were to win, his VP might end up being President for more days between the two elections than Vice President. Also, Biden would be almost certain to not run for re-election, so Biden’s Vice President would have the benefit of virtual “incumbency” with regard to the Democratic Party’s primary process leading up to 2024.

    Is West offering himself up as a potential Biden Vice President selection? If that is, in fact, the back-channel message being sent, what risk would the Biden 2020 campaign run if they declined to consider him? Biden’s ability to secure the nomination is almost entirely attributable to solid support in the African-American community, and the view that he represents a third term of Obama Administration policies.

    But Kanye West running as a Third Party candidate would certainly carve out for himself a very large slice from the African American vote that is otherwise destined to go to Joe Biden – and having Kamala Harris, Val Demmings, Karen Bass or some other African-American female as the VP on a Biden ticket is not going to change that.

    Donald Trump proved what an out-sized celebrity with a gift for self-promotion can accomplish through free media. But Kanye West is also a media mogul in his own right, with the ability to spend tens of millions of dollars of his own money promoting his campaign. Two months ago Forbes Magazine pegged West’s net worth at $1.3 billion.

    If West follows through and begins an effort to get ballot access, he’s going to change everything. Joe Biden’s “hold” on traditionally Democrat African-American voters goes out the window if Kanye West appears on ballots alongside him. Battleground states in the Rust Belt that the Dems believe they currently have an advantage in based on significant African American populations, such as in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio, all become much less friendly with Kanye West taking away votes. Border and nominally southern states like Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida all slip away as well.

    Is Kanye West doing this a favor to Trump?

    Is Kanye West setting himself up as the successor to Trump in 2024?

  109. In “water is wet – sun rises east & sets west – bears use the woods for a dunny” news:

    Pontypool Rugby Football Club also promotes “Pride” month.
    It is one helluva surprise to learn this.

  110. Maj

    Shooters, Fishers and Farmers have given Eden-Monaro to the ALP

    Why wouldn’t they?

    The homosexualist, bugmen Libs have done everything they can to annoy shooters, fishers and farmers.

    Greyhounds.

  111. Dave in Marybrook

    Johanna
    Grieg, Prokofieff and Saint-Saens are the heaviest plagiarised composers for movie scores.
    John Whats-his-name mined Wagner blatantly for Star Wars and S-S for Harry Potter. Not that it’s a bad thing- there’s nothing new under the sun- but it was done seamlessly, and fitted the action.
    The local media fawning over “Decoder Ring” and Nick Cave scoring films is sad. It’s switch-on, switch-off and bombastically jarring.

  112. Infidel Tiger King

    Is Kanye West doing this a favor to Trump?

    Is Kanye West setting himself up as the successor to Trump in 2024?

    Let’s hope so.

    Ye would be an outstanding President.

  113. P

    A society that tries to kill of Christianity will die before the church does.

  114. Cardimona

    Dr Faustus at 1035

    Thank you, sir.
    Just on that Snopes article, I recall a reference being made at the time to that so I looked into the data sources Windy uses.
    From memory they receive it from NASA’s Terra satellite and it is only “modelled” in that it is converted into the images Windy uses in its layers.
    Is that incorrect??

    BoN at 1038

    Thank you, sir.
    Nishinoshima certainly lines up on the map with the likely source of the plume given the wind movements.
    This brings me to my next question; given that the solar cycle seems to be waning (Electroverse has a lot to say on this), what effect would an SO2 mass ejection of this size have on the climate?
    Cooler, still?

    Supplementary question for completely open-minded Cats (‘coz some Cats seem dead-set certain there can be no link between lower solar activity and increases in tectonic and volcanic activity), if the solar winds are of reduced pressure and Earth’s magnetosphere is de-energised, allowing a higher concentration of GCRs to strike (and blast through) the planet, could those near-lightspeed subatomic particles serve to excite and/or “lubricate” magma or crustal elements?

    Because if they did, wouldn’t that help explain how interglacial periods end abruptly?

  115. Arnost

    Ye would be an outstanding President.

    Look – the level of education and knowledge is what made the constitution … I think that Jefferson was in his early 30’s when the constitution was drafted. But his general knowledge was encyclopaedic, and that is why him, and the other writers who were not much older than him but equally educated – could draft such a timeless document.

    What does Ye know…? Might as well make Kim K president! [Come to think of it – she’d be a shoe in!]

  116. shatterzzz

    GOD BLESS THE USA .. military version ..
    https://youtube/0Japc8M8RQw

  117. Top Ender

    “Is it me,” Sydney Morning Herald columnist Peter FitzSimons asked in May 2019, “or does it look like the political wind has suddenly shifted and is now filling Bill Shorten’s sails as never before?”

    It was just Peter. Six days later Shorten got smashed in the federal election and resigned the Labor leadership.

    Few indicators are more reliably inaccurate than a FitzSimons prediction. “Of course Craig Kelly will lose his seat,” FitzSimons also decided last year. Outcome: a 1.26 per cent swing to the member for Hughes, whose margin grew to 19,000 votes.

    FitzSimons’s talent for error is not resticted by geographical boundaries. He was just as wrong when he forecast Elizabeth Warren’s nomination as a US presidential contender.

    “My pound to your peanut,” FitzSimons declared, “says she will be the one standing for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2020.”

    At which point Warren’s polling collapsed.

    Maybe that call was driven more by costume-comrade loyalty than by logic; after all, Warren likes to pretend that she’s an authentic Native American while Peter likes to pretend he’s a pirate.

    And a writer. And someone who knows things.

    Which brings us to matters of the moment. A couple of months ago, FitzSimons was invited to name his outstanding performers during our coronavirus challenge.

    His reply: “Dan Andrews has been the stand-out politician.”

    Victorian Premier Andrews has been getting it wrong ever since, notably when he offered only the softest opposition to massive Black Lives Matter rallies in June.

    Andrews’s failure to take a strong stand against the rallies sent an unmistakable message to the broader Victorian public: social distancing and cautious public behaviour are now optional.

    Friends living in Melbourne suburbs that are now locked down following a fierce coronavirus resurgence report a changed street atmosphere in the wake of those mass protests.

    Mask use was down. Street crowds were up. And why wouldn’t they be? Tens of thousands of people had just swarmed through city streets without a single one of them being fined (besides a few organisers). Everything was back to normal.

    Then there was Andrews’s disastrous decision to use lightly-trained security guards instead of police to monitor hotels housing overseas arrivals under quarantine.

    The antics of those security guards – including sex with quarantined returnees – contributed hugely to Victoria’s coronavirus surge.

    So too did poor government communication with migrant groups. And now Andrews has put nine housing commission towers containing 3000 people under a lockdown level unknown outside of communist China.

    “Let‘s just turn our minds back to January when we saw the Chinese apartments being welded up and we were looking on that with horror and we were amazed that such activity can take place,” the ABC’s Andrew Probyn said on yesterday’s The Insiders, a title that more accurately describes those 3000 tower residents.

    “Well, it has been done in Victoria, in a democracy,” Probyn continued. “Just without the welding.”

    Give Dan time. He could always convert some of China’s Belt and Road cash into oxy acetylene.

    Victorian governments enjoy experimenting on the poor.

    Those commission blocks were built in the 1960s by state Liberal governments that wanted to see what happened if they made people live in inner-Melbourne’s version of East Berlin.

    The latest trial involves surrounding the towers with police for five days, plus placing police inside to restrict even door-to-door movement.

    Those subject to this ordeal are understandably furious. “Dictator Dan we are not criminals!” one sign, posted in a window as though by a hostage, announced yesterday during day one of the lockdown.

    “This is Classism Discrimination Martial law.”

    That’s an accurate description.

    As tower resident, warehouse worker and father of five Abdirahman Ibrahim told reporters: “This is not fair. There are a lot of postcodes in lockdown but they are allowed to leave the house for essentials.”

    No such luck for the Tower 3000, who won’t emerge until late this week. Any who refuse to be tested might be locked inside for even longer.

    “If someone knocks on your door to do a test the only answer you should give is yes,” Andrews said yesterday. “And if you see someone in your family group, in your friendship group, in your street, who is not taking this seriously, then call them out.”

    Andrews is possibly unaware of the social dynamics involved in housing commission living. Calling out friends and neighbours to the authorities is not a healthy decision.

    To smooth things over, Andrews yesterday revealed his government would give $1500 in hardship money to residents.

    He’ll also provide tower children with “activity boxes” containing “books and puzzles” along with “herb and flower seeds – and a special egg carton to grow them in”.

    It’s every child’s dream to have their own special egg carton.

    In the same spirit of giving, I was planning to purchase stuffed COVID-19 cuddle toys online (from giantmicrobes.com) and send them to friends in lockdown, as a kind of dark-humour cheer-up.

    Close friends were going to receive the full Modern Plague Pack, including COVID, Zika, Ebola and the flu.

    You know, the Beatles of contagion.

    But then I checked the packaging. The bastard things are made in China.

    Maybe I’ll still send a COVID doll to Peter FitzSimons. He can ask it for some help with those predictions.

    Daily Tele

  118. shatterzzz

    Failed .. AGAIN .. snuffles off …..!

  119. MemoryFault

    A society that tries to kill of Christianity will die before the church does.

    Good afternoon Mrs P.
    Unfortunately “society” doesn’t even have to try.
    These days, most of our so-called “Christian” churches are doing a grand job of destroying themselves, without any outside help.

  120. cohenite

    Cardimona
    #3504910, posted on July 6, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    Google Cosmic Rays and Tectonic activity

  121. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Witch Doctor Cert. III at the tender age of 10. Wonder how many credits that will be worth when he starts at Medical School.

    Should imagine that the first demand will be for text books to be translated into a “First Nations” language?

  122. Des Deskperson

    ‘it may be that SFF got most of the swinging Green votes (rejection of their bush-fire management?), and hence meant an ultimate preference flow back to Labor.’

    Dunno. I just had a quick and incomplete troop through E-M 2019 votes by polling place, and the areas where the Greens did very well that year – Tilba, Sutton, Braidwood, Tathra – have exactly the socio-political demography that the Greens appeal to – sea/tree change ‘progressives’ and eco-loons.

    I agree that the issue is more complex, and it will be interesting to see how these booths voted this time around, but the idea, prima facie, of a typical Braidwood or Tilba Greens voter suddenly switching to SFF seems unlikely to me.

  123. Infidel Tiger King

    Look – the level of education and knowledge is what made the constitution … I think that Jefferson was in his early 30’s when the constitution was drafted. But his general knowledge was encyclopaedic, and that is why him, and the other writers who were not much older than him but equally educated – could draft such a timeless document.

    What does Ye know…? Might as well make Kim K president! [Come to think of it – she’d be a shoe in!]

    Good instincts will always be preferable to some over educated turd.

  124. stackja

    James Madison did most of the work on the USA Constitution. TJ did the Declaration of Independence.

  125. rickw

    “The Today show has advised Pauline Hanson that she will no longer be appearing on our programme as a regular contributor,” Nine’s Director of News and Current Affairs Darren Wick said in a statement.

    Telling the Truth sure gets you trouble these days.

  126. Mark A

    shatterzzz
    #3504919, posted on July 6, 2020 at 2:19 pm

    Was it this?

  127. rickw

    “We are the most successful multiracial democracy in the world and have much to be proud of,” Mr Javid tweeted on Thursday.

    Bullshit!

    Yep, a lot of bombed, stabbed, shot and raped people disagree.

  128. Bushkid

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3504895, posted on July 6, 2020 at 1:44 pm
    Welsh rugby club Pontypool has banned for life a fan who supported a young girl who refused to “take a knee” for the BLM movement.

    I couldn’t make up stuff like this.

    Banned for life.

    Not for starting a brawl in the grandstand, or attacking club officials with a carving knife.
    For looking at a picture of a female player in a women’s rugby match in the USA standing at attention during the National Anthem, and saying it took courage to defy the Marxist directive to kneel.

    There’s nothing in the rules of Rugby Union (yet) about having to kneel & acknowledge black people’s pain.

    So a club in Wales banned him for life.

    This is what insanity looks like.

    The worst thing about it is, that it appears to be a mass insanity, an hysteria that’s infecting the weak-minded and precious world-wide. That they are so vast in number is concerning, and mobs are dangerous, unthinking, and easily-driven by whoever wants to use them, to whatever end they want. The “end” in this case is the destruction – both metaphorical and actual – of anyone and anything that they are being groomed to believe is opposed to them, or “bad”.

    The outcome, if they are successful, is the concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few who see and treat the rest of us as mere cattle to be farmed and harvested for their gain only. That the gullible mob don’t realise that they will also be in the number of harvested is pathetic.

    History. Learn from it, or die from ignorance of it.

  129. MemoryFault

    This is what insanity looks like.

    No.
    It’s what totalitarian authority looks like, if we let it.
    And right now it’s meeting very little resistance.

    If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.

    George Orwell.

  130. William the Conjuror

    One Nation Leader Pauline Hanson has been dropped by Channel 9 after she went on a spectacular offensive against the Melbourne residents trapped inside nine housing commission towers

    Pauline set up again by Ch Nein, which is now mostly a mouthpiece for the Liberal Party.

  131. Makka

    MF,
    Institutions and Corporations are running shit scared from social media and media in general . Adding to the herd containing politicians of all stripes. That is where our biggest cultural defeats are occurring.
    I’m reminded by the book ; Extarordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

  132. P

    These days, most of our so-called “Christian” churches are doing a grand job of destroying themselves, without any outside help.

    Yes Peter and many of us feel the blows and we hurt.
    Here are two verses from the hymn I put up earlier:

    Though with a scornful wonder
    men see her sore oppressed,
    by schisms rent asunder,
    by heresies distressed,
    yet saints their watch are keeping,
    their cry goes up, “How long?”
    And soon the night of weeping
    shall be the morn of song.

    The church shall never perish!
    Her dear Lord to defend,
    to guide, sustain, and cherish,
    is with her to the end;
    though there be those that hate her,
    and false sons in her pale,
    against both foe and traitor
    she ever shall prevail.

    In the last verse above, I am reminded of the sadness I’ve felt with with reports of Jean Vanier and even more recently Father Joseph Kentenich.

  133. Johno

    Some time back one of my mates did a short IT contract with the Shooters party.He was amazed at the amount of money they had. When they first started up they attracted a lot of followers who were only to happy to contribute . There were a few very smart men who invested wisely and even today they still have money. He said he got the impression hat they were pissed off with everyone.

  134. Atoms for Peace

    Best way to watch morning ablutory TV is to hit pause button go for 5 k walk then fast forward when you get home.

  135. MemoryFault

    That is where our biggest cultural defeats are occurring.

    No, Makka.
    The defeats are all within ourselves.
    Exhibit A – Most Catallaxians last April 25.

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

    Edmund Burke

  136. Arnost

    James Madison did most of the work on the USA Constitution. TJ did the Declaration of Independence.

    True dat! I actually meant the Declaration as the timeless doc… but good correct.

  137. Makka

    I see that Demorat mayor in Atlanta has chalked up another murder at the Rayshard Wendy’s outlet. First a 7 year old black kid and now an adult black male in a 3 person shootout. Arrested was another black male. Is it time to clear out the “protestors” yet? Do black lives really matter to Mayor Bottoms (of the barrel).

  138. Warwick

    Des, I stand corrected. However, the lack of direct oversight by the Commonwealth concerns me. Returnees from OS are not in quarantine due to a Victorian initiative. They are there because in late March the Commonwealth declared it had to be done. They used powers given to them under the constitution. So, they should have ownership of running the program across Australia. Sure, use state resources when necessary. To me it is a clear breach of Commonwealth responsibility. As much a breech as the states trying to shift their responsibility for bushfires back on the Commonwealth.

  139. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Michael Smith running the story that more people cast an informal ballot (6147) in Eden Monaro then voted Green (5089.)

  140. Good afternoon all.
    Anything I have missed the last couple of days? Any birfdays of great nations, any further lockdown events?

  141. Makka

    MF,
    You’re wrong. Corps and institutions are not in the political sphere but are choosing to be so they can virtue signal. Everywhere. It’s a collective delusional episode combined with cowardice.

  142. Top Ender

    An Islamic school in Melbourne’s outer west is now the site of Victoria’s second-worst cluster after abattoir Cedar Meats, having been linked to 77 cases on Monday.

    The new number represents an increase of 14 cases since Sunday in teachers and students at Al-Taqwa College in Truganina.

    The Cedar Meats outbreak was linked to 111 primary and secondary cases.

    Despite the Al-Taqwa College outbreak and another linked to a separate family outbreak of 16 cases in Truganina, the Andrews government is yet to lock down the area.

    The Australian

  143. Top Ender

    An I slamic school in Melbourne’s outer west is now the site of Victoria’s second-worst cluster after abattoir Cedar Meats, having been linked to 77 cases on Monday.

    The new number represents an increase of 14 cases since Sunday in teachers and students at Al-Taqwa College in Truganina.

    The Cedar Meats outbreak was linked to 111 primary and secondary cases.

    Despite the Al-Taqwa College outbreak and another linked to a separate family outbreak of 16 cases in Truganina, the Andrews government is yet to lock down the area.

    The Australian

  144. Went with kidlets to Central Deborah gold mine in Bendigo. History of the joint is amazing. Apparently a lot of the techniques used to mine were adopted from Cornwall when they dug up tin and copper. Old mate who took us down was a miner himself which made it clearer to understand. Imagine being down there for an 8 hour shift. Sensational tour, and that was 61 metres down. The 220 metre tour was too expensive but wouldn’t mind that going alone.

  145. thefrollickingmole

    A lot of people mention various revolutions and so forth as parallels to BLM bullshit.

    I prefer this historical model.

    https://blogs.uoregon.edu/rel414w15drreis/savonarola/

    Heres Machiavellis take on the chap, from the Prince.
    If Moses, Cyrus, Theseus, and Romulus had been unarmed they could not have enforced their constitutions for long—as happened in our time to Fra Girolamo Savonarola, who was ruined with his new order of things immediately the multitude believed in him no longer, and he had no means of keeping steadfast those who believed or of making the unbelievers to believe. Therefore such as these have great difficulties in consummating their enterprise, for all their dangers are in the ascent, yet with ability they will overcome them; but when these are overcome, and those who envied them their success are exterminated, they will begin to be respected, and they will continue afterwards powerful, secure, honoured, and happy.

    …From the first link..

    Savonarola’s biographers attribute his success not just to the words he wrote and spoke but to the fiery preaching style he employed. Savonarola’s apocalyptic rhetoric instilled fear in the hearts of his congregation. At the pulpit he promised violent, imminent punishment for sinners while at the same time he advocated for the faithful and morally upright to endure the current period of tribulations. As a reward they would see a renewed golden age in Florence unlike ever before

    He is perhaps best remembered for his Bonfires of the Vanities (1497-98), in which he ritually burned “objectionable” works of art, classical literature, musical instruments, and tools of science. Works of art that Savonarola deemed objectionable were those that were secular in nature and meant for purely scopophilic and intellectual enjoyment (i.e. non-religious works). The destruction of these objects was necessary in Savonarola’s mind as he saw excess, luxury, and vanity as contributing to the immoral state of Florence.

  146. Infidel Tiger King

    Time to uplift this fallen hellsite with some decent music:

  147. Top Ender

    Black Ball, there’s a coal mine in southern Victoria (yes, believe it!) which does tours.

    Very interesting.

  148. thefrollickingmole

    Black ball.

    Sensational tour, and that was 61 metres down. The 220 metre tour was too expensive but wouldn’t mind that going alone.

    If you want an experience try to scab a trip into a mine and being underground when a blast is set off.
    Even at a considerable (safe) distance its like the end of the world with rockfall noises and so forth.
    Also you never want to plan it, but being underground during a seismic event, even a small one is scary/awesome. Lots of small rocks bouncing off the backs & walls.

    Also 1km down is where shit gets real…

  149. Old School Conservative:

    Chilling reading, including the “dob in culture” that led to the police visit.
    I think Hitchins is right – 85% of the population believe in the new religion of authoritarianism.

    There were stories doing the rounds after the war that had Hitler overrun the British Isles, something like 20% of the populace would have worked for him.
    I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it does make one think…

  150. Top Ender

    Waiting for the Godot Vaccine

    Peter Smith over at Quadrant argues waiting for a vaccine is a waste of time.

  151. MemoryFault

    Corps and institutions are not in the political sphere

    What planet have you been living on for the past decade, Makka?
    Today it is ALL in the “political sphere”. Everything. There is no other “sphere”.

    And yet, last Anzac Day a small band of warriors from the Cat, led by Struth and including people like Cassie, and Ellie, and No Fixed Address, and others, joined with others across Australia, defied the official edicts, and attended Dawn Services. In doing so they risked arrest, prosecution, fines, and even imprisonment. But they did it anyway.

    There were no arrests, not even any official interference.
    There is a lesson to be learned in there somewhere, if only enough people are preapared to learn it quickly enough.

  152. Struth

    If people feel an entire race has been disadvantaged and want to do something about it, to help them, when there is no law of the land that suppresses that race, they are the true racists, because they must have concluded the race they shower with their false empathy cannot rise to equality of their own volition.

    Racism resides without exception in the heart of the collectivist, it cannot survive elsewhere.
    From Socialist Hitler, the Democrat KKK, to today’s anti-semites , the left wing socialist/marxist Antifa fascists or the Marxist BLM, those hating whites, they have always been socialist/ leftists, as they are today.
    The target race may change, depending on what race is perceived to stand between them and the tyranny they so desire to inflict upon the world, (the race they use as the excuse for their failure,), yet again, without exception, throughout history, they have all been collectivists, and still are.

    Collectivism breeds racism, it is an evil , inhuman curse.

  153. Also lots of people get a taste of the SFF members like Borsak and wonder if it isn’t all a controlled oppostion.

    Borsak was on my booth on Saturday so I had a chat with him. He was complaining about the State Gubbermunt ruling by edict and said it had to stop.

    But then he said he agreed that it was necessary during a “pandemic”.

    Cut a long story short, I gave him a serve and a 3 minute crash course in liberty and Government overreach.

    It isn’t necessary to control the opposition when they’re already on the same page.

  154. Top Ender

    Meanwhile in the world’s most liveable city:

    Mr Dini said he received a plastic bag of pies dropped outside his door 46 hours after the lockdown began but they were inedible as they weren’t halal certified.

    “I wasn’t going to touch that,” he said.

    “DHHS need to pull their socks up.”

    and

    A police officer was bitten by a 32-year-old man trying to leave the Flemington housing block on Monday afternoon.

    A scuffle broke out after the man tried to leave the locked down tower.

    He is expected to be charged over assaulting and resisting police, as well as for breaching the stay-at-home directive.

    Herald-Sun article – free to read

  155. Eyrie

    “There were stories doing the rounds after the war that had Hitler overrun the British Isles, something like 20% of the populace would have worked for him.
    I don’t know if that’s true or not, but it does make one think…”

    More like 80%+ I think.

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Black Ball, there’s a coal mine in southern Victoria (yes, believe it!) which does tours.

    Wonthaggi State coal mine, IIRC?

  157. Shy Ted

    Here you go, DumbBob – Media Bias Fact Check has our ABC as Left-Centre (it’s hard left)
    and 7 and 9 as Right-Centre (yeah, Mark Riley, Kochie, Peter Fitzpirate, all right leaning).
    A bit more about the nurse’ allegations. Nice little article about Republican Florida and Hydroxychloroquine effectiveness 2/3 of the way down. Bet you can’t make your way through it.

  158. Bruce of Newcastle

    This brings me to my next question; given that the solar cycle seems to be waning (Electroverse has a lot to say on this), what effect would an SO2 mass ejection of this size have on the climate?
    Cooler, still?

    Cardimona – The effect of such things are pretty clear from the Pinatubo eruption, around 0.02 C per million tonnes of SO2. Lasts for 2-3 years.

    But Pinatubo was VEI 6, and this one is probably about VEI 3 at most. That is a three orders of magnitude difference.

  159. Makka

    Better than the real thing;

  160. Gilas

    William the Conjuror
    #3504831, posted on July 6, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    Everyone knows no one died before cofib19 came along.

    Nein News just now said the guy who died from the CCP warbug overnight was in his nineties.
    Not good, but something was going to do it in the very undistant future, if not bat crud.

    Maybe. But for the virus he might have made 100+ years and been celebrated for doing so.

    I’m mostly a lurker here but… rarely, oh so rarely… a special comment appears…

    …a comment so cretinous and so devoid of human cognition that it must be noted.

    William, go back to kindergarten and start again.

  161. Boambee John

    Meanwhile in the world’s most liveable city:

    Mr Dini said he received a plastic bag of pies dropped outside his door 46 hours after the lockdown began but they were inedible as they weren’t halal certified.

    Oh, the multiculti sensitivity of Dan Xi Man’s Victoria.

    Clear evidence that all the multiculti virtue signalling by the fascist left is just political theatre by really awful actors!

  162. cohenite

    Why matt kean is the most dangerous NSW lnp member:

    Key drivers of the current NSW Electricity Strategy
    1. The key drivers of the NSW Electricity Strategy of November 2019 (the Strategy), as disclosed by the speech of 7 June 2019 of Matt Kean, the NSW Minister for Energy and Environment, are as follows:

    a. The Minister believes:

    i. “Much of the progress that has been made [in the world] has been due to our ability to draw logical conclusions based on evidence”1;

    ii. “The climate wars saw ideology and populism pitted against our scientific traditions”2;

    iii. Scientists are “confident” that “changes to the earth’s climate are being rapidly accelerated by human activity, and that this change poses a material risk to our prosperity and way of life”3;

    iv. “No responsible leader can accept the contribution made by science but then ignore the risk posed by climate change”4;

    v. “The stakes are too high to jettison the tools that have delivered our society its prosperity”5;

    vi. “…the market is telling (him) that (coal fired power stations) will be replaced with renewable energy firmed by a combination of gas and emerging storage technologies because of the economics”6;

    vii. The NSW Electricity Strategy will ensure that NSW is “the easiest jurisdiction to develop new electricity infrastructure in the OECD”7; and

    viii. “What we do over the next decade will pioneer global understanding of how large, isolated, high renewable energy grids can operate….the rest of the world is watching… This revolution …will see us export our technologies and services to the rest of the world”8.

    b. Changes in the last 10 years have resulted in:

    i. 12 coal-fired power stations closing;

    ii. 100 wind and solar farms being constructed; and

    iii. 2 million Australian households with solar panels9.

    c. The NSW government recognises that it will take “at least seven years to plan, approve and build” a new coal-fired power station. There is therefore insufficient time to replace the Liddell Power Station with a coal-fired power station10.

    d. The NSW government wants, within its current term of office (i.e. by 2023) to “have the framework in place to successfully manage the closures of other generators…”11. The planned closures are:

    2029: Vales Point B: 1,320 MW
    2031: Earring: 2,750 MW
    2035: Bayswater: 2,520 MW
    2043: Mount Piper: 1,300 MW

  163. MemoryFault

    More like 80%+ I think.

    I’ve written on this before, Eyrie. Way back in early March, when it all started.
    There are three stages –
    Stage One – Compliance through intimidation.
    Stage Two – Compliance through grudging acceptance.
    Stage Three – Compliance through willing cooperation.

    Here in Oz Satge One began to meld into Stage Two almost immediately, because there was no discernible resistance to intimidation. Right now we are witnessing the quiet transformation of Stage Two into Stage Three, something I did not think would be possible in this country.

    I was wrong.

  164. Bruce of Newcastle

    While on this, here is a chart of volcanic cooling events since 1750. You can see Pinatubo as the most recent signal. The biggest one is from Tambora in 1815 which was VEI 7.

  165. Struth

    Iam against locking down anyone, even those Africans in the high rises.
    One of the bloody high rises doesn’t even have any Cofib 1984 positives (from a crappy , dodgy test for general corona viruses)
    So in other words, not even the common cold, yet Dan won’t lock down the Mooossies.

    This is pure Tyranny.

    Marxist and Mooossies are exempt, and so the show goes on.

  166. incoherent rambler

    The planned closures are:

    2029: Vales Point B: 1,320 MW
    2031: Earring: 2,750 MW
    2035: Bayswater: 2,520 MW
    2043: Mount Piper: 1,300 MW

    go on punk close one. just one of them. see what happens.

  167. shatterzzz

    Thinking on coal mines and tours .. great grandad (dad’s side) was a coalminer all his working life .. from 14 to 64 years old back in the pick and shovel days pre WW2 .. Most of my ancestors (Dad’s side) were coal-miners/mine related going back to the mid 1500s.

  168. calli

    Meanwhile in the world’s most liveable city:

    Mr Dini said he received a plastic bag of pies dropped outside his door 46 hours after the lockdown began but they were inedible as they weren’t halal certified.

    “I wasn’t going to touch that,” he said.
    “DHHS need to pull their socks up.”

    How humble and loveable.

    We really have imported the best of the best.

  169. egg_

    Instead they swap subjects, dissemble or piss off for half a day and then return with the same stuff, hoping everyone’s forgotten.

    Yet, others are criticised for commenting on something a few pages ago, such as this; as if there’s a live conversation taking place.
    Sad.

  170. calli

    And yes, sensitivity on the part of the government is alwsys theatre.

    Watch what happens to you if you’re culturally insensitive!

  171. go on punk close one. just one of them. see what happens.

    Imagine a whole suburb’s cohort of teenage girls experiencing one night of no running hot water because Dad has to charge his Tesla.

  172. egg_

    as if there’s a live conversation taking place.

    Were it face-to-face, methinks some keyboards would be more ‘umble.

  173. John A

    calli #3504998, posted on July 6, 2020, at 4:04 pm

    Meanwhile in the world’s most liveable city:

    Mr Dini said he received a plastic bag of pies dropped outside his door 46 hours after the lockdown began but they were inedible as they weren’t halal certified.

    “I wasn’t going to touch that,” he said.
    “DHHS need to pull their socks up.”

    How humble and loveable.

    We really have imported the best of the best.

    OK, starve, then. This is Australia, not the land of your birth. And you are not here to take us over, even if you think that.

  174. JC

    I wonder if Kanye West is serious about the announcement he’s running in the prez election. If he’s serious, the demomrats would be totally rooted as he could peel off enough votes on that side to cause a serious issue to the rats. I’m sceptical that he’s serious, but it would be interesting if he were.

  175. egg_

    26 people in Melbourne hospitals. Three in intensive care.

    Call out the National Guard!
    It’s a plague, I tells ya!

    Any betting on the September share price of Carnival Cruises?

  176. egg_

    A 97 y.o. with TDS?
    He should watch his ticker and up his Meds.

  177. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Mr Dini said he received a plastic bag of pies dropped outside his door 46 hours after the lockdown began but they were inedible as they weren’t halal certified.

    Heh! I’m nearly up to him on that.
    He’s received only one more bag of pies from the government than I have.

  178. John A

    cohenite #3504990, posted on July 6, 2020 at 3:55 pm

    Why matt kean is the most dangerous NSW lnp member:

    Key drivers of the current NSW Electricity Strategy
    1. The key drivers of the NSW Electricity Strategy of November 2019 (the Strategy), as disclosed by the speech of 7 June 2019 of Matt Kean, the NSW Minister for Energy and Environment, are as follows:

    a. The Minister believes:

    To which the best reply is Shellenberger’s Apology, aka Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All

  179. H B Bear

    How can it be The World’s Most Liveable City if you cannot even get a halal meat pie?

    Or does the fact you cannot get a halal meat pie make it The World’s Most Liveable City?

  180. notafan

    Socialist Alliance have been papering Footscray with ‘end systemic racism defund the police’

    posters.

    One just outside the African hairdresser shop that was the scene of a riot a couple of years ago.

    Who you gunna call?

    Not the non halal pie makers obviously.

  181. MemoryFault

    Imagine a whole suburb’s cohort of teenage girls experiencing one night of no running hot water

    Forget running hot water, Forester. Those poor girls will face a REAL calamity.
    How on earth will they recharge their iphones?

  182. egg_

    Carnival Corporation & plc is a British-American cruise operator, currently the world’s largest travel leisure company, with a combined fleet of over 100 vessels across 10 cruise line brands. A dual-listed company, Carnival is composed of two companies, Panama-incorporated US-headquartered Carnival Corporation and UK-based Carnival plc, which function as one entity. Carnival Corporation is listed on the New York Stock Exchange and Carnival plc is listed on the London Stock Exchange. Carnival is listed in both the S&P 500 and FTSE 250 indices.[7]

    I know these guys own massive frozen food distribution warehouses for Woolies and the like, which makes sense, care of their own logistical operations.

  183. JC

    Hey, shouldn’t lock-down really called lock-up? You lock stuff up, you don’t lock it down.

  184. Be fucked if I am going to miss out on a bowls tournament in Hay next month due to multiple cock ups on the part of our incompetent flogs gracing the halls of Spring Street.
    Just as an aside, Knuckle Dragger, what sort of cop would want to go to those caves in Flemington to maintain order? One would think that it would be left to relatively new people on the force.

  185. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mr Dini said he received a plastic bag of pies dropped outside his door 46 hours after the lockdown began but they were inedible as they weren’t halal certified.

    Horror, shudder, paroxysms. They could have been pork pies and the destination: eternal hellfire.

  186. Incoherent Rambler:

    When it is announced that now is the ideal time for “mums and dads” to invest in the stock market, then you know that the mother of all crashes is only weeks away.

    I remember an anecdote from the 30’s – “When even the hat check girls are giving stock market tips, it’s time to get out.”
    Good advice.
    The same goes to Tesla – the richest company in the world, but every product they sell is at a loss.

  187. Farmer Gez

    JC
    #3505018, posted on July 6, 2020 at 4:24 pm
    Hey, shouldn’t lock-down really called lock-up? You lock stuff up, you don’t lock it down.

    A lock up is for valuables you want to keep safe.
    A lockdown is keeping dodgy buggers from getting out.

  188. Arnost

    Missing hot water – no prob! But

    Imagine a whole suburb’s cohort of teenage girls experiencing one night of no Snapchat/Instagram because Dad has to charge his Tesla.

    Horror!!!

  189. Infidel Tiger King

    We have had 3 cases today in WA from overseas flights.

    McGowan now wants to ban all international flights to WA.

    These people are insane.

  190. Gilas

    MemoryFault
    #3504991, posted on July 6, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    More like 80%+ I think.

    I’ve written on this before, Eyrie. Way back in early March, when it all started.
    There are three stages –
    Stage One – Compliance through intimidation.
    Stage Two – Compliance through grudging acceptance.
    Stage Three – Compliance through willing cooperation.

    Agree.
    Or, in historically accurate terms:

    1. Control means of communication
    2. Create ongoing political crise eg. Cultural Revolution, collectivization, purges etc..
    3. Identify and neutralize (execute) people who are not “ideologically pure” enough
    4. Consolidate power
    5. Repeat steps 2-4

    For example:

  191. incoherent rambler

    26 people in Melbourne hospitals. Three in intensive care.

    Call out the National Guard!
    It’s a plague, I tells ya!

    The red death it is.
    Good reason to ban golf.

  192. H B Bear
    #3505014, posted on July 6, 2020 at 4:21 pm
    How can it be The World’s Most Liveable City if you cannot even get a halal meat pie?

    Or does the fact you cannot get a halal meat pie make it The World’s Most Liveable City?

    Cacked myself, wife had to come down to see what was wrong…

  193. Bruce of Newcastle

    McGowan now wants to ban all international flights to WA.

    State government MPs missing out on nice fact-finding tours in Europe in the northern summer?
    What a disaster!

  194. Struth

    Defund the entire government.

    I believe there is now a law against your pay packet being paid cash as an employee, is that correct?

  195. JC

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3505025, posted on July 6, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    We have had 3 cases today in WA from overseas flights.

    McGowan now wants to ban all international flights to WA.

    These people are insane.

    It’s perfectly reasonable if you want if you want a population with virtually zero immunity though. That’s the insane part. You can wiggle the curve any fucking way you want, but the space in between zero and the eventual infection rate will NOT change…. unless there’s a vax. Best of luck waiting for that.

  196. egg_

    an isolationist USA with a narcissist in charge

    Per normal US tradition from a Century ago (up to Kennedy Sr), Trump would probably have avoided sending troops into ‘Nam.

  197. kaysee

    Do two wrongs really make a right?

    Many recent defences of rioting and social disorder are based on a logical fallacy.
     
    Fallacy of two wrongs make a right. Mistake of inferring that because two wrong things are similar and one is tolerated, the other should be tolerated as well. This sort of argument misuses the appeal to consistency. This fallacy is often simply called two wrongs.

  198. incoherent rambler

    26 people in Melbourne hospitals. Three in intensive care.

    Is it time that we considered the nuclear option?

  199. C.L.

    I’m going to post this whole piece from The Australian …
    The entire pandemic story is endless left-wing lies – from beginning to end:

    Coronavirus: Sorry tale of a Covid catastrophe

    MAURICE NEWMAN

    When the history of COVID-19 is written, it will be a sorry tale of ­ineptitude at the highest levels of world medicine — how global politics, cover-ups and fashionable causes left the world, Taiwan aside, lamentably unprepared for an inevitable pandemic.

    The World Health Organisation is the United Nations agency primarily responsible for inter­national public health, yet its record is disturbing. It is accused of medical malpractice for knowingly promoting useless malaria drugs which led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of African children. Along with the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, it covered up UN culpability in a Haitian cholera epidemic, responsible for more than 10,000 deaths.

    And despite Zimbabwe’s life expectancy plummeting from 61 to 44 in less than two decades, it appointed Zimbabwean despot Robert Mugabe a “goodwill ambassador”.

    This unprincipled mindset seems to have permeated medical research. In an article, The Truth Wears Off: Is There Something Wrong With The Scientific Method?, The New Yorker warns that “all sorts of well-established, multiply confirmed scientific findings have started to look uncertain”.

    Biologist Richard Palmer from the University of Alberta believes scientists selectively report data, disregarding what they don’t want to see. “Our beliefs are a sort of blindness,” he says.

    Stanford University epidemiology professor John Ionnidis expresses “increasing concern that most current published research findings are false”. In an article in the Journal of the American Medical Association, he looked at the 49 most-cited clinical research studies in three major medical journals and discovered that of 34 replicated claims, 41 per cent had effectively been falsified.

    The Wall Street Journal cites a dramatic upward trend in retraction notices, including for fraud. The latest high-profile withdrawal is a hydroxychloroquine study in The Lancet. HCQ has become highly politicised since President Donald Trump used it as a COVID-19 prophylactic. Indeed, despite many doctors claiming significant success with early onset coronavirus patients, the FDA has banned its use in the US.

    Does politicisation of medicine explain why, despite the 2002 SARS experience, preparation for COVID-19 was so derisory? Was the pandemic declaration delayed until March for political reasons? According to the South China Morning Post, Chinese authorities knew of multiple coronavirus cases in early November. They ­officially advised the WHO on ­December 31. A month later, an international health emergency was announced.

    Victorians will be banned from entering New South Wales from 11.59pm Tuesday night as the Australia’s leaders desperately try to contain the latest outbreak which continues to…

    That interval gave Beijing sufficient time to complete new hospitals, stock up on medical equipment and prepare a propaganda offensive. Even then, the emergency declaration was accompanied by a disarming advisory that: “Based on the facts on the ground, containment is possible.”

    Taiwan is not a WHO member. It dismissed the official line as ­disinformation and rapidly implemented its own plans. In January, when Beijing imposed a lockdown in Wuhan, Taipei closed its borders to mainland Chinese arrivals. With a similar population to ours, it has recorded seven deaths.

    Similar border closures quickly followed in Australia, Singapore and the US, earning a WHO rebuke for breeding “fear and ­stigma”, and causing “more harm than good”.

    Like polite members of a college, most countries dutifully downplayed the unmistakeable warning signs, insisting that their early COVID-19 responses were based on the “best medical advice” — in other words, based on WHO-Chinese propaganda.

    It’s why New York Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot recommended people “not to change any plans due to misinformation spreading on coronavirus”. She, and mayor Bill de Blasio, who encouraged New Yorkers to “Get out on the town, despite coronavirus”, simply followed the WHO script. Like London mayor Sadiq Khan, who reassured Londoners they “faced no risk” on public transport.

    It explains why health authorities were silent when the Italian government bowed to the WHO’s warnings about racism by not quarantining thousands of returning Chinese workers, and why Spain suppressed publication of new COVID-19 cases to maximise participation in feminist marches.

    Once the epidemic’s seriousness became impossible to hide, cautious mitigation became draconian suppression overnight. Alarmist simulation models appeared from nowhere. The Imperial College London predicted there would be 500,000 deaths in the UK and 2.2 million in the US. Australia’s deputy chief medical officer warned the best we could expect was 50,000 deaths out of five million infections. When was this known?

    The prospect of hospitals being overwhelmed panicked governments everywhere. Apocalyptic projections were accepted as Holy Writ. Fear crowded out critical examination of the evidence, let alone proper consideration of the massive, potentially more harmful, economic and social consequences of prolonged lockdowns.

    A pop-up hospital was built in Canberra and respirators and ­additional beds were hastily procured. In the event, the beds and respirators overwhelmed patients. Despite dire predictions, just more than 100 Australians, 44,000 Britons and 132,000 Americans have died so far.

    Surely such a dismal track record calls for caution? But no. Ahead of Black Lives Matter marches, politics intervened again. A Seattle public health spokes­person rationalised: “We can’t let COVID-19 distract us from our resolve and show how it is possible to break down the historical institutional racism that affects our communities every day.”

    Victorian authorities also put this “worthy cause” ahead of public health. Having translated social distancing rules into 53 languages and fined thousands of individuals for breaking them, the government exempted 10,000 Melbourne BLM protesters from prosecution. Now, a rattled Premier Daniel Andrews is desperate to ensure that this double standard and the government’s bungled quarantining and testing protocols are not linked to the latest spike in infections.

    The sad truth is, COVID-19 was foreseeable and, potentially, preventable. It has exposed a medical-political complex unsuited to its primary duty of protecting public health. Even in democracies, when ideology calls, governments have demonstrated scant regard for the wellbeing of those they represent. As a consequence, this pandemic has inflicted on a trusting world needless deaths and unnecessary economic hardship.

    It is a very sorry tale indeed.

  200. Nick

    It’s weird watching the media laugh at Trump but protect Andrews.

  201. incoherent rambler

    I guess we could just euthanize any Viktoristani that tests positive for Chifloo.

  202. MemoryFault

    Or, in historically accurate terms:

    Correct, Gilas.
    Except it’s not the Communist Chinese, or indeed any communists, behind all this.
    It is the Deep State that operates within the five UKUSA Pact countries.
    Of which Australia is one; the others being the UK, the USA, Canada and new Zealand.

  203. egg_

    Young Australians are struggling in record numbers to cope with the anxiety of watching their world turned upside down.

    Experts compare the disruption and stress of the coronavirus pandemic to living through a war, or the Great Depression, but this is a crisis on a scale most of their parents, and even their grandparents, never had to face.

    When the Green-Left propagandist arm, Their ABC, constantly fans the flames of public hysteria?
    These people do not do irony.

    Wheeling out Ray Martin to put locked down folk into comas?

    Ellen Fanning on Teh Dumb, likely because she’s now a parent, is a good bellwether for this stuff as she tries to process it live on air, the inner rational human being trying to deal with the Deep Left hyperbola versus reality.

  204. Infidel Tiger King

    It’s perfectly reasonable if you want if you want a population with virtually zero immunity though. That’s the insane part. You can wiggle the curve any fucking way you want, but the space in between zero and the eventual infection rate will NOT change…. unless there’s a vax. Best of luck waiting for that.

    We are in permafrost forever.

    There will never be a vaccine.

    My next overseas trip will be Rottnest.

    Eucla is now the the furthest east point in my universe. Haven’t been there for a while but use to have good roadhouse.

  205. Nick

    Buy more Standish instead, IT.

  206. MemoryFault

    I believe there is now a law against your pay packet being paid cash as an employee, is that correct?

    Good afternoon, Struth.
    Not quite. It will be once the Cash Restrictions bill is ratified by the Senate.
    The HoR passed it last October.

  207. incoherent rambler

    Nuke Dannograd. Now!

  208. Harlequin Decline

    I’m rewatching the 1964 BBC series “The Great War’.

    Episode 18 covers Russia in 1917, the war with Germany, the unrest, confusion and the smuggling of Lenin into Russia by the Germans leading to the rise of Communism.

    Churchill describes it eloquently as “They turned upon Russia the most grisly of weapons. They transported Lenin in a sealed truck like a plague bacillus from Switzerland to Russia.”

  209. calli

    Speaking of children and the Great Depression, I read this story yesterday.

    A big life, well lived.

  210. calli

    There will never be a vaccine.

    My next overseas trip will be Rottnest.

    I’m about to cash in my QANTAS FFPs and send them broke. 😁

  211. caveman

    Kanye West

    Running interference for the Trumpster.

  212. JD

    Indonesian nuclear power. We are idiots!

  213. H B Bear

    IT – unless there is a vaccine you can swap your passport for a Multirider.

  214. Bruce of Newcastle

    We are in permafrost forever.
    There will never be a vaccine.
    My next overseas trip will be Rottnest.
    Eucla is now the the furthest east point in my universe.

    Infi – Watch Dr Strangelove again. It’ll make you feel better.

    Researchers find fans of apocalyptic movies may be coping with pandemic better (3 Jul)

    A small team of researchers from the University of Chicago, Pennsylvania State University, and Aarhus University has found that people who are exposed to end-of-the-world movies may be more resilient when dealing with the real-life ongoing pandemic. They have written a paper describing questioning volunteers about movies they had seen and their real pandemic experiences.

    Unfortunately if Peter Sellers were alive today he’d’ve become a used-car salesman. Comedy is dead.

  215. JC

    Friends of ours are leaving on a flight out of Melbourne this afternoon. They bought the last two business class tickets out of here to Sydney. In Sydney, they await the final approval from some government schmuck to make the final decision whether they can fly out internationally. For the approval, the schmuck required a medical report from a family member residing overseas that overlays the request along compassionate grounds.

    FMD.

  216. egg_

    I know these guys own massive frozen food distribution warehouses for Woolies and the like,

    I’ll bet if they tested staff with the sniffles they’d show up as corona-positive, just like the Vic meatworks.
    Ditto any workplace.
    Dictator Dan is now moving onto whole suburbs.
    He’s the plague.

  217. Arnost

    Biologist Richard Palmer from the University of Alberta believes scientists selectively report data, disregarding what they don’t want to see. “Our beliefs are a sort of blindness,” he says.

    The incidence of incorrect / withdrawn studies has significantly increased since the turn of the century. And there seems little or no consequence. But it is not blindness – all scientists know the Richard Feynman maxim about experiments and data. It is the publish or perish (haste to publish first) and paid for outcomes (biased / selective analysis) that drive this. Whilst morality should have no place in science – it is scientifically immoral.

  218. JC

    caveman
    #3505056, posted on July 6, 2020 at 4:50 pm

    Kanye West

    Running interference for the Trumpster.

    I’m not sure. I think the Kanye uses his own bat. Truth be told, the demonrats are poison to the black community.

    It would be really fucking interesting if Kanye began a bidding war between the Demons and the GOP on the subject of education. Blacks (appropriately) love charter schools and choice, which is a strong GOP policy. Demons love the ed unions, hate charters schools and choice. The Demons won’t leave the unions behind, but at the same time can’t win without enough black votes.

  219. Top Ender

    Snowflake revenge? Told to get off the phone?

    A 15-year-old girl has allegedly burnt down her own home in western Sydney, causing about $1 million damage.

    Fire crews were called to Llandilo about 3.30pm on Sunday, finding the home already engulfed.
    “The blaze was extinguished by Fire and Rescue NSW; however, the home was destroyed, with the damage valued at $1 million,” police said in a statement today

    No injuries were reported but Nepean Police arrested the 15-year-old girl at the scene and took her to Penrith police station as detectives set up a crime scene at the house.

    Police have today charged the girl, who lived at the home, with damage property by fire more than $15000 (DV) and destroy or damage property (between $2000 and $5000).

    The girl was refused bail to appear before a Children’s Court today.

    Daily Tele

  220. JC

    One good side of locking up the melbourne projects. The crime rate will be down in those areas for the duration.

  221. Harlequin Decline

    Lenin almost didn’t make it into Russia-

    When they arrived in Finland, the last passport-check before Russia, Lenin was alarmed that soldiers on the Russian side were backed up by British allied troops. A British officer, who knew about Lenin, sent a wire to the provisional government, suggesting it would be a mistake to admit him. He got a reply that Russia was now a democratic society and of course Lenin, a Russian citizen, could be admitted. Harold Gruner was an MI-5 officer on duty that night. He played for time while hoping some sensible decision would be made.

    He strip-searched Lenin, examined his books and papers and asked “what-is-your-business” questions. Britain’s ambassador in Stockholm had suggested Lenin be admitted in the normal way. As a junior officer, Gruner felt he had to comply. For years after, colleagues teased him for “locking the stable door while the horse was out, or rather in.” Gruner tried to forget the whole nasty business but Lenin didn’t forget. He ordered Gruner shot as soon as he took power in Russia, according to Merridale. But Lenin’s orders weren’t followed as quickly then as later. In 1918 Gruner joined the unsuccessful British intervention against the Bolsheviks in Siberia. Merridale adds an ironic coda: “Gruner notched up not one but two heroic failures, for which a grateful George V awarded him an OBE.”

  222. MemoryFault

    unless there is a vaccine you can swap your passport for a Multirider.

    In five years time people generally will have forgotten what “Covid 19” even stood for.
    But they will be very grateful for all that extra protection by armed police and soldiers at all the checkpoints, keeping us “secure”, and “allowing” us to move about “safely”.

    I remember back in 1986 when a small band of us started the anti-ID Card movement. Back then the official meme of the day was “You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide”.

    In the beginning 80% of the population swallowed it hook, line and sinker, and it took an awful lot of effort to convince them otherwise.

  223. H B Bear

    From the “ It seemed like a good idea at the time” files,

    A 15-year-old girl has allegedly burnt down her own home in western Sydney, causing about $1 million damage.

  224. miltonf

    Why matt kean is the most dangerous NSW lnp member:

    So is Gladyshocklian- she him him there I presume.

  225. Arnost

    Kanye West
    Running interference for the Trumpster.

    When you go to your boys house and you’re both wearing orange:

    https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1278353774671802369

    Do they want to be orange man? [or is that a step too far] Maybe … but I wonder if Elon Musk is playing politics?

  226. William the Conjuror

    Gilas #3504987, posted on July 6, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    This was a comment by Bruce of Newcastle:

    Everyone knows no one died before cofib19 came along.

    Nein News just now said the guy who died from the CCP warbug overnight was in his nineties.
    Not good, but something was going to do it in the very undistant future, if not bat crud.

    This was my following comment:

    Maybe. But for the virus he might have made 100+ years and been celebrated for doing so.

    Tell me what concerns you about my comment.

  227. egg_

    In five years time people generally will have forgotten what “Covid 19” even stood for.

    The “outrage factor” AKA storms in tea cups, as I tried to drum into one of the resident pessimists.

    Now we have a massive debt burden for generations, well done SloMo.

    When the proles wake up – hanging from a lamp post?

  228. Incoherent Rambler:

    go on punk close one. just one of them. see what happens.

    It may just be the wake up call we need to shut down the insanity engulfing Western culture.

  229. Dr Faustus

    Mr Dini said he received a plastic bag of pies dropped outside his door 46 hours after the lockdown began but they were inedible as they weren’t halal certified.

    I have rather limited concern about Mr Dini’s religious objection to eating haram foods under emergency conditions. If he thinks his God wants him and his family to starve, so be it…

    But this whole issue is emblematic of the shitshow Andrews is running. There surely must have been some slight contingency planning for intensive Hot Spot lockdowns before the Saturday announcement: so why the fucking fuck did no-one think that food + essentials would need to be provided for the detainees?

    Sure 3,000 people is a lot – but large scale emergency supply is a thing in a big place like Melbourne. And being public housing, someone might have some sort of an idea of how many and who was behind each door.

    Instead, it’s a very large scale train crash.
    #yetanotherroyalcommission

  230. Cold-Hands

    Unfortunately if Peter Sellers were alive today he’d’ve become a used-car salesman. Comedy is dead.

    I just bought myself a copy of “The Party” on DVD to save for posterity. Sellers in this was hilarious, but because he’s in brown-face, it’ll get cancelled as soon as attention is brought to bear.

  231. egg_

    I remember back in 1986 when a small band of us started the anti-ID Card movement.

    What about all of our “toxic water supplies” in the early 90s when the numpties got their hands on giardia test kits?
    Bottled water bonanza.

  232. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tell me what concerns you about my comment.

    Five years out of the lifespan of a planet or a sun ain’t much.
    The Bible talks about eternity.
    Which is a long time.

  233. miltonf

    The demorats have stopped pretending- they think their marxist professors, sleeper mayors and governors, their street thugs and useful idiots will get their steaming old turd into the WH.

    Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich panned former Vice President Joe Biden’s short speech on the Fourth of July, saying it “may be the most anti-American speech ever given by an American presidential candidate.”

    Jimmy Carter: US ‘Most Warlike Nation in History of the World’
    Former president says peaceful China ‘ahead of us in almost every way.’

  234. egg_

    But for the virus he might have made 100+ years and been celebrated for doing so.

    He died of pneumonia?
    NumbNutz’s 97 y.o. will likely do the same.

  235. Bruce of Newcastle

    NumbNutz’s 97 y.o. will likely do the same.

    Did already two years ago.
    Probably still votes though.

  236. MemoryFault

    Now we have a massive debt burden for generations, well done SloMo.

    Only until they “discover” the three trillion dollars sitting in super funds later on this year, Egg.
    Three trillion that can be “repurposed” into infrastructure projects, to “save the nation”. Most people will think it’s a good idea. At least, that’s the plan.

    When the proles wake up – hanging from a lamp post?

    The plan is they don’t. Ever.
    Boiling frog gameplan.

  237. caveman

    One good side of locking up the melbourne projects

    Also keeps 3000 Collingwood supporters off the streetz.

  238. Bruce of Newcastle

    William – You said the magic word. Which is “Bruce”. Quite like rubbing a brass lamp.

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