Tuesday Forum: July 7, 2020

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2,209 Responses to Tuesday Forum: July 7, 2020

  1. MemoryFault

    Open borders are the libertarian wet dream, all that cheap shithole labour ready to be exploited.

    Can you show me the bit about open borders please Makka?
    I keep missing it.

    Bastiat – The Law.

  2. Farmer Gez

    I’m looking at worldwide stats JC, as I’ve done the whole way through.

    You might remember that I pointed out the unusually high Victorian numbers over many weeks and now it has blown out. It was predictable by following the trend.

  3. egg_

    Australia’s GDP Per Capita reached 55,305.837 USD in Jun 2019, compared with 57,879.639 USD in Jun 2018. Australia GDP Per Capita data is updated yearly, available from Jun 1960 to Jun 2019, with an average number of 17,838.455 USD. The data reached an all-time high of 68,767.222 USD in Jun 2013 and a record low of 1,828.960 in Jun 1960. CEIC converts annual GDP per Capita into USD. The Australian Bureau of Statistics provides GDP per Capita in local currency. Federal Reserve Board average market exchange rate is used for currency conversions. GDP per Capita is in annual frequency, ending in June of each year.

    What’s happened since 2013?

  4. Mark A

    MemoryFault
    #3506676, posted on July 7, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    Open borders are the libertarian wet dream, all that cheap shithole labour ready to be exploited.

    Can you show me the bit about open borders please Makka?
    I keep missing it.

    Bastiat – The Law.

    You are looking in the wrong place, what makes you think our modern day, so called “libertarians” are even aware of Bastiat and his work let alone follow it?

  5. JC

    Gez

    The only thing really predictable about the China bug is that it’s quite contagious, so predicting Vic numbers would rise is not really a top of the line prediction.

    There’s not enough information at this stage to suggest the Italian docs assertions are correct.

  6. mh

    Bastiat – The Law.

    Yep, the law can make you swear at times.

  7. Farmer Gez

    Well that’s epidemiology buggered then JC.

  8. May Arky’s channel not get pinged with glorious content lost forever!

    A 10-minute account of a YouTube channel mysteriously disappearing. TLDR summary: don’t just use YT, but also other options, including some that can automatically copy a version of what you just added to YT (once you’ve set it up to do so).

  9. cohenite

    Must be right, if the WHO says so. You blithering idiot.

    I don’t blither head prefect.

    The point about the WHO estimating 80% asymptomology is that it is about midway in the range of figures found by a number of studies which range from 17.9% to well over 100%. Now stop polishing your shiny arse and go and read a few studies you ignoramus.

  10. Tel

    You are looking in the wrong place, what makes you think our modern day, so called “libertarians” are even aware of Bastiat and his work let alone follow it?

    So you want to blame libertarians for everything … and the way to do that is find some guys who clearly were not libertarian but might have sometimes pretended to be, and then use that as evidence for how bad libertarians are.

    Well, well, that means I get to find any guys calling themselves “conservative” and hold you responsible for whatever they did … only fair, right? right?!? So you must be held responsible for Bush war crimes, and his invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, because the neocons pretend to be conservative. Then there’s all the things John Howard did, taking the guns away, getting us into wars all over the place, selling out to renewable energy subsidies … all conservative, because Howard said so. Hey … he was in the Liberal Party, they pretend to be conservatives … hmmm, you really want to take responsibility for everything the Liberal Party has done? This could get interesting.

  11. egg_

    Well that’s epidemiology buggered then

    Sinc does have remedial Covid stuff at the top of the page – perhaps some should read it before posting in the OT and wasting everyone’s time?

  12. Farmer Gez

    Italy

    July 6th:
    Cases 208.
    Deaths 8.

    April 6th:

    Cases 3,599.
    Deaths 635.

    Run out of victims?

  13. Mark A

    Tel
    #3506689, posted on July 7, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    So you want to blame libertarians for everything …

    I don’t blame them for anything, I couldn’t care less about them to be honest.
    Dreamers at best, ineffectual so not dangerous.

  14. egg_

    Do some posters even know the difference between bacteria and virus?
    Pneumonia, that kills viral flu sufferers, is caused by bacteria – streptococchi.
    Or is that too brain hurty for up/down binary share market brains?

    We went over this crap about six months ago.
    The fact that some numpties are still debating CAGW post Climategate means virus mania won’t fade too quickly.

  15. JC

    What’s happened since 2013?

    The Australian dollar corrected down and substantially so eggly, you nimbus. When you ask a rhetorical question make sure you really know the answer. 🙂

    If you’re measuring that Stat in USD terms you need to also take into account the exchange rate. That’s why I said earlier that you need to work with that stat before you make big claims.

    Let’s take the GDP numbers and the exchange rate into account, shall we.

    June 2013 the Aussie USD exchange rate was ~.9700.

    The data reached an all-time high of 68,767.222 USD in Jun 2013


    So US$68,767 /.97.. = A$70,893

    US$ 55,305.837 in Jun 2019

    So So US$ 55,837/ .6800 = A$ 80,923

    The conversion shows that in australian dollar terms it’s has risen over the period by using your number.

    I told you idiots to be careful with this number.

  16. egg_

    Italy

    July 6th:
    Cases 208.
    Deaths 8.

    April 6th:

    Cases 3,599.
    Deaths 635.

    Farr’s Law*.
    CL did a post yonks ago.

    This is getting like Groundhog’s Day with Numbers.
    Babysitting the elderly.

    *I’m sure Gez is aware of this and probably runs herds, himself.

  17. JC

    I don’t blither head prefect.

    The point about the WHO estimating 80% asymptomology is that it is about midway in the range of figures found by a number of studies which range from 17.9% to well over 100%.

    Nothing the WHO says can ever be taken at it’s word. You blithering idiot, no one in their right mind would post the WHO here as an authority.

    I think I’ve forgiven too many of your transgressions of late. No more Mr Nice Guy unless we get an apology from you and it must be heart felt too,

  18. MemoryFault

    what makes you think our modern day, so called “libertarians” are even aware of Bastiat and his work let alone follow it?

    Evening, Mark.
    They’re not, they aren’t, and they don’t.
    I know that, Mark. But it’s a bit like if I said I was opposed to Christian monogamous marriage because I didn’t think men should be sodomising male hamsters. Complete and utter gibberish. But effectively, that is what Makka – and others – are saying.

    Libertarian philosophy is a term coined to describe the ideas and concepts originally forwarded by Frederic Bastiat, culminating in his booklet “The Law”, first published in 1850. The entire concept starts with the recognition of the unique nation/state, and the right/obligation to defend it from external interference. a concept which all by itself negates the idea of “open borders”.

    Back in half an hour – I’m watching a movie.

  19. Zyconoclast

    rickw
    #3506566, posted on July 7, 2020 at 8:25 pm
    Look at all this white privilege:

    They don’t use poverty as an excuse for violent crime.

    Appalachia, VA Crime

    Per 100,000 people in 2018

    Violent crime 2 (no murder, [email protected] or robbery)
    The rest of Virginia 128
    The USA 200

  20. egg_

    When you ask a rhetorical question make sure you really know the answer.

    It wasn’t a rhetorical question.

    Fisky launches some strong anti China GDP debates.

    I’m only a “wet”, yet I think Trump made a blue in demonising China over trade and so the beer bug bit him on the @rse.
    Cooperation over the beer bug would have been better.
    Apparently the West were cooperating with the Wuhan bug lab for some time before the CV-19 outbreak.

  21. Farmer Gez

    Farr’s Law*.
    CL did a post yonks ago.

    Works for Malcolm Farr as well, a complete bell end.

  22. JC

    Fisky launches some strong anti China GDP debates.

    Along with you and Trades Hall. Hall just wants us to pay for his kids. He think we owe them a living.

  23. dover_beach

    Feser on the virtue of patriotism:

    Here too, the nature and unreasonableness of the vice are best understood on analogy with the case of parents and family. Suppose someone had no special regard for or loyalty toward his own parents or family, on the grounds that we should be charitable and just to everyone and that we shouldn’t regard any family with contempt. This would obviously be a perverse non sequitur. That we have obligations of justice and charity to all people and shouldn’t regard other families with contempt simply does not entail that we don’t have special obligations to our own parents and family or that we don’t owe them a special love and loyalty. In the same way, it is perverse to infer, from the premise that jingoism is wrong, the conclusion that patriotism is wrong too. Avoiding the one extreme does not justify going to the other extreme.

  24. Tel

    Pneumonia, that kills viral flu sufferers, is caused by bacteria – streptococchi.

    If you believe the CDC there are many and various causes of pneumonia (including some types of streptococchi but not limited to that).

    https://www.cdc.gov/pneumonia/causes.html

    This is made worse because often in a weak condition, pneumonia patients get hit by more than one thing, and the same streptococchi are also found in people who are not particularly sick, so they might not always be the problem even when they are found hanging around. There’s also malaria pneumonia, caused by the parasite. One of the first things they do in developing countries to reduce cases is try and get the general Zinc levels up in the population … encouraging supplements.

  25. egg_

    Along with you and Trades Hall.

    Wrong.

    You obviously don’t pay attention.

    I’ve debated Fisky on this.

    You are getting as bad as Numbers.

    I hope there’s not a young whippersnapper breathing down your neck?

    Most here likely agree with Makka, lurkers and all.
    /”Boltheads”

  26. Top Ender

    The website where you can apply for permits to travel from Victoria to NSW has suffered a major technical issue only hours before the border officially closes at midnight.

    The Service NSW permits will be valid for 14 days from the date of issue and apply to all borders: land, air and sea, as well as river crossings.

    The exemption was available from 7pm on Tuesday but it was only working for just over an hour before the ‘apply’ button disappeared, making it impossible to use.

    “Your permit will indicate if you need to self-isolate for 14 days, get tested for COVID-19 or any other conditions,” the website said.

    “In most instances, if you’re arriving in NSW from Victoria you will need to self-isolate for 14 days.”

    Daily Tele

  27. egg_

    Avoiding the one extreme does not justify going to the other extreme.

    Western companies sought out Ch1na for cheap labour – pure and simple.
    Capitalism, like water, seeking the lowest level.
    It’s no surprise that they’re now migrating to South East Asia, instead; many of them Mu slim countries.

  28. egg_

    often in a weak condition

    Elderly + flu virus
    Medicos overwhelmed by flu virus

  29. Farmer Gez

    Speaking of zinc.

    According to the 2013 review mentioned above, semen contains a lot of zinc.

    In fact, one teaspoon could contain about 3 percent of your daily allowance — which is quite a lot for such a small amount of semen!

    However, you’re better off getting zinc through food or a multivitamin.

  30. JC

    Gez

    Cronkite says he gets loads of zinc.

  31. mh

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    “COVID-19 (China Virus) Death Rate PLUNGES From Peak In U.S.” A Tenfold Decrease In Mortality. The Washington Times @WashTimes Valerie Richardson. We have the lowest Mortality Rate in the World. The Fake News should be reporting these most important of facts, but they don’t!
    10:52 PM · Jul 7, 2020

  32. Chris

    Huh! so far behind I posted this on the old fred first.

    I wish to announce the winner.
    My lovely daughter has been tempted to accept a car, to keep her off the motorbike.
    She loved KD’s suggestion, the F100. Very Bella Swan, and no noodle-armed skinny jeaned man-bun wearers would stand any chance of getting close enough to be harmed.

    The First Hairdresser’s old Celica was declined.

    She got out her 26th birthday champagne and opened it in thanks for her mother and me! Couldn’t believe that what we suggested for her, is so HER she cant believe it. Step up, a showroom-new looking 15 years old with 65K on the clock, two proud Japanese owners, in silver with a rag top – the Mazda MX-5 of a girls’ dreams!
    Monty, come on down and collect your glass of birthday champagne!

  33. egg_

    often in a weak condition

    Trump
    + beer virus*
    + Antifa/BLM

    *If he didn’t take on Ch1na, this would have been less of an issue, Politically (with the benefit of hindsight, although I thought it was bad Policy at the time).

    If he’s pushing for a manned Mission to Mars, we could be taken back to The Summer of Love in the 60s.
    I’m skeptical of any manned spaceflight above LEO (Van Allen Belts*).

    *2 probes were launched on Armstrong’s death and were in orbit for a decade.
    Obama ruled out a return to the Moon.

  34. Dave in Marybrook

    You’ve been outflanked, Chris.
    Motorbike just goes in the back of the F100…

  35. MemoryFault

    Sleep well, E J.
    Wherever you may be.

  36. K2

    There is a day spa at this place where I work. (I’m a cook). Anyrate, this new woman there is a kinesioligist. She has offered all staff a free session etc. Most have had a session. I had one today. Now; it was a bit strange, (not in a creepy way) but I came out of there feeling way better than if it had just been a rub and tug.

  37. Steve trickler

    Late night walk.



  38. Looking at recent video of Trump, he does look older, tired and now and then overwhelmed

    I think Trump’s genuinely doing it for the good of the country (perhaps with a bit of ego). That approach will certainly be more wearing than just doing it for the ego.

  39. MemoryFault

    Evening Steve.
    Last night I played some songs in your absence.
    Hope you don’t mind.

  40. K2

    Should have got your tomboy a D-Max. I drive a ’97 Isuzu with Holden stickers. Best truck/light truck manufacturers evah!

  41. MemoryFault

    Very quiet here.
    Maybe time to do some work for a while.

  42. Mitch M.

    Farmer Gez
    #3506721, posted on July 7, 2020 at 11:01 pm
    Speaking of zinc.

    According to the 2013 review mentioned above, semen contains a lot of zinc.

    In fact, one teaspoon could contain about 3 percent of your daily allowance — which is quite a lot for such a small amount of semen!

    However, you’re better off getting zinc through food or a multivitamin.

    True but in the current climate many people think consuming lots of zinc is a good idea. It’s a dumb idea.

    Iron, copper, zinc, aluminium at high levels damage the brain and probably other organs. RDA for zinc is 11mg per day for adults. If you’re taking supplements or multivits check the level. Most people will obtain ample zinc from food. Upper limit is 40mg but I wouldn’t go there.

    Archive extracts:

    Clinical studies have also shown elevated levels of copper, iron and zinc in the brains of AD patients (Bush, 2013).

    Health Risks from Excessive Zinc
    Zinc toxicity can occur in both acute and chronic forms. Acute adverse effects of high zinc intake include nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, abdominal cramps, diarrhea, and headaches [2]. One case report cited severe nausea and vomiting within 30 minutes of ingesting 4 g of zinc gluconate (570 mg elemental zinc) [84]. Intakes of 150–450 mg of zinc per day have been associated with such chronic effects as low copper status, altered iron function, reduced immune function, and reduced levels of high-density lipoproteins [85]. Reductions in a copper-containing enzyme, a marker of copper status, have been reported with even moderately high zinc intakes of approximately 60 mg/day for up to 10 weeks [2]. The doses of zinc used in the AREDS study (80 mg per day of zinc in the form of zinc oxide for 6.3 years, on average) have been associated with a significant increase in hospitalizations for genitourinary causes, raising the possibility that chronically high intakes of zinc adversely affect some aspects of urinary physiology [86].

  43. Steve trickler

    Hello and goodnight, Pete.



  44. Infidel Tiger King

    ve Monitor Retweeted

    Kaiser Bill
    @WaivedSAP
    ·
    51m
    Replying to
    @amlivemon
    Three gorges damn is 6 feet over max capacity and there has already been some displacement at the base. If the rain doesn’t stop soon it’s going to be a catastrophe of biblical proportion.

    As I said last month, a couple hundred million people are about to drown and China is finished. Wuhan is already underwater. God only knows what disease vector this will bring.

  45. JC

    LOL

    Ghislaine Maxwell showing up in the background of various historical scenes through the decades like some kind of sex trafficking Forest Gump

  46. Steve trickler

    The CCP will destroy the joint.



  47. MemoryFault

    Good morning Notafan.
    Thanks for the simple explanation of Farr’s Law.
    Maybe we shouldd be sending it to our politicians.

  48. rickw

    Daily dose of Vietnam!

  49. Herodotus

    BBC (and in due course I’m sure Also the ABC) delighted to report Brazil’s Bolsonaro has tested positive to covid-19. They also seized upon his taking of hydroxychloroquine, which they said “had not a bit of evidence that it works”, which of course allowed them to link this to Trump.

  50. calli

    Gorrel today.

    Rowe lives in Opposites World.

  51. rickw

    JC,

    Just read your response on immigration:

    IQ testing is real, it is a true measure of capability, one country I worked in they abandoned IQ testing because most recruits could not meet the minimum, well, guess what. All the recruits that didn’t meet the minimum were bloody useless.

    Most countries, in particular those that Australia admits immigrants from, have a lower average IQ than Australian’s, so guess what is happening to the Australian average. The exceptions to this are Europe, USA, China, Japan.

    I’m firing their arses, they’re useless.

    Then there’s also a cultural aspect, a mate who now lives in the US did an audit on us, which included one of these guys areas. I haven’t been to this guys country of origin, but my mate has spent a lot of time there. “I see that xyz is typically of people from abc, never takes responsibility, blames everyone else, that’s why their country is stuffed.” So not only can this guy not remember shit, takes an inordinate amount of time to do basic tasks, but he blames everyone else, shit he tried to blame his latest clusterfuck on an admin giving him the wrong form.

    Immigration programs should serve the host country to the nth degree. Australia’s program doesn’t, it’s simply a socialist scam to swamp the country with badly behaved idiots who consistently vote left wing.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    K2, overnight:

    ‘Anyrate, this new woman there is a kinesioligist. She has offered all staff a free session etc. Most have had a session. I had one today. Now; it was a bit strange, (not in a creepy way) but I came out of there feeling way better than if it had just been a rub and tug.’

    I must look up what that means.

    Initially I believed ‘rub and tug’ to be slang for impromptu statue removal, but that can’t be right.

  53. Thx Tom, loved the leak version 🙂

  54. rickw

    BBC (and in due course I’m sure Also the ABC) delighted to report Brazil’s Bolsonaro has tested positive to covid-19. They also seized upon his taking of hydroxychloroquine, which they said “had not a bit of evidence that it works”, which of course allowed them to link this to Trump.

    I bet Bolsonaro is a bit crook for 4 days then he’s back to 100%.

    Really worth wrecking the economy and everyone’s lives for this big nothingburger, especially if you’re taking hydroxychloroqine.

    Note that the border force fucks confiscated my hydroxychloroqine order.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    It hardly needs to be said that Richmond football person Jack Riewoldt is a ranga, and therefore not to be trusted.

    He’s on the noos this morning saying he’s ‘second-guessed’ his decision to go to Richmond’s self-imposed hub in the Goldy somewhere, away from the own-goal Melbourne petri dish Andrews created with the aim of continuing what passes for the AFL season this year.

    There’s footage of him with those fucking earbuds on, looking mournful and trying to describe the indescribable hardship of living in Q1 or wherever he is until September. Among other things, he said this:

    ‘Why am I here? What am I doing?’

    Earning (which is debatable) hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. That’s what you’re doing, you colossal millionaire flog.

  56. will

    this new woman there is a kinesioligist

    so, total fruitcake.

  57. Herodotus

    It’s only days since further evidence emerged that hyroxychloroquine has halved mortality rates when used.
    But BBC happy to promulgate “no evidence of any effect”.

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    Rita Panahi in the Hun:

    ‘Former premier Jeff Kennett made a pertinent point last week about the human cost of restrictions, noting that “since January 1st about 375 Victorians have taken their own lives”.’

    The elf websites tell me coronavirus deaths in Vicco remain steady on 22.

    Obviously, nobody’s brave enough just yet to ascribe any of the 375 to having their life’s work ruined by a parasitic Spring Street communist.

  59. MemoryFault

    so, total fruitcake.

    Oh, I dunno Will.
    Even with just a quick look, I can see a couple of good reasons why the subject deserves closer study.

  60. Herodotus

    Thanks is due to Tom on a daily basis but I’m afraid to look at the cartoons since the links started to stall the ipad and produce blank screen. Particularly any Links to twimg. And there’s that incessant ipad capitalisation that appears every time I try to correct its awful mistyping syndrome!

  61. If IQ matters so much then just ramp up IQ of immigrants to one or more standard deviations above the mean for non tourist entry and charge them $2 mn for entry and let in 500,000 per year and don’t give them citizenship for at least 20 years.

    Oh and eliminate call other taxes and pay off public debt.

  62. Herod

    I found a report on the same, my source was the impeccably reliable CNN.

  63. Herodotus

    Deserves closer study ….
    Who else recalls Norman Gunston introducing a pair of young lady singers “with big things in front of them”?

  64. H B Bear

    Cripes things ARE crook. Even David Rowe has been forced to abandon his daily TDS in the anti-business daily.

  65. Knuckle Dragger

    Fucking fuck fuck fuck there are some goddamned sooks in this country.

    Not content with TV whinging, Riewoldt’s in the rag as well:

    ‘Riewoldt, 31, has left behind young daughter Poppy and wife Carly, who he revealed is expecting their second child.

    ‘The dual premiership forward said he had “cried like a baby” upon Richmond’s departure — less than 24 hours before Melbourne was plunged back into lockdown — and that he was struggling with adjusting to extended life on the road.’

    Where is the self and situational awareness of these clowns? Why is this different to thousands of other Australians who travel interstate because they NEED to work to eat and pay their bills? And who get just enough to do that, and no more?

    Footballers in past eras would have gone to sea in a hollow log. For their club, not themselves and their bank accounts. The current lot are so coddled and bubble-wrapped in cash that they lack the acumen to pay a phone bill, let alone survive outside for half an hour without a jumper on.

    FMD, could you picture Damian Monkhorst carrying like this? Rod Grinter? Glenn Archer? Langford? Duckworth? Roberts? Merrett?

    Just picture if you will, and as difficult as this is, Ted Whitten carrying on like that.

    Just be content that your income stream remains unchallenged, dry your girly albino eyes and wind your trap shut Riewoldt, you shameful, shameful fucking disgrace.

  66. Siltstone

    Riewoldt should play in the Ladies League

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    I believe it was LL yesterday at some point who mentioned the best way to get people out of the caves in Flemmo and those parts would be to trip the fire alarms.

    *faint voice, from across the road*

    ‘It won’t work ‘cos those alarms were all disabled years ago because people kept smashing the glass in them in the middle of the night because they’re fuckwits’

    Did somebody hear something? No? Never mind.

  68. Cassie of Sydney

    “will
    #3506820, posted on July 8, 2020 at 6:57 am
    this new woman there is a kinesioligist

    so, total fruitcake.”

    Sorry disagree. I have personally found kinesiology to be quite useful in treating some things.

  69. Zinc comments and yet I am the only one to make fun of Ghislaine Maxwell’s name?

    I have to wonder if Epstein had codes.

    “I would like a Maxwell House Roast” for example.

  70. Knuckle Dragger

    The Big Show’

    It’s a Glenn Maxwell joke.

    Cricket. Geez.

  71. Knuckle Dragger

    Maxwell Smart.

    ‘Would you believe a Prince and a President?’

    Cone of Silence, and so on.

  72. mh

    Fox News

    FBI Director Christopher Wray

    Of the nearly 5,000 active FBI counterintelligence cases currently under way across the country, almost half are related to China,” Wray said. “And at this very moment, China is working to compromise American health care organizations, pharmaceutical companies and academic institutions conducting essential COVID-19 research”.

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    Arithmetic is racist.

    BLM Teacher Says 2+2 Only Equals 4 Because Of “Western Imperialism”

    Brittany Marshall’s tweet went viral after she claimed during the course of a discussion about racism, “Nope the idea of 2 + 2 equaling 4 is cultural and because of western imperialism/colonization, we think of it as the only way of knowing.”

    Marshall, who includes her pronouns in her bio, lists her occupation as “teacher, scholar, social justice change agent” and apparently is studying for a PhD at Rutgers.

    I admit I have no idea whether she was being satirical. I suspect not, but it’s increasingly hard to tell these days.

  74. Knuckle Dragger

    A helicopter crashed in a cemetery last night.

    So far the police have recovered more than 300 bodies.

    More to come.

  75. MemoryFault

    I have personally found kinesiology to be quite useful in treating some things.

    Good morning Cassie.
    Personally, I have never experienced kinesiology, but after watching that clip I just posted, I can well imagine it is useful in treating some things.

    So just give me a call if you ever need a hand – or two – with your treatment of some things.

  76. calli

    “Nope the idea of 2 + 2 equaling 4 is cultural and because of western imperialism/colonization, we think of it as the only way of knowing.”

    Test the White Supremacist power socket with a fork, Brittany.

    It’s the only way of knowing.

  77. mh

    Her bizarre statement is yet another example of Intersectionality, the pseudo-intellectual garbage feminist notion taught in all major universities that racism and sexism are prevalent throughout all areas of society and are intertwined.

    In this case, Marshall appears to be arguing that maths itself is racist, an argument that has been made by numerous social justice warriors down the years, some of whom question why ‘Western Math’ is in common use and not other methods such as the way Aborigines count (maybe because we’re western and not Aborigine).

    I note that Aborigines never put anyone into space.

  78. Knuckle Draagger:

    When I heard that joke 50 years ago, it was:
    In Irelands Worst Air Disaster, Cessna Light Aircraft Crashes in Dublin Cemetery. The toll is 800 and rising as more bodies are recovered..

  79. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Marshall appears to be arguing that maths itself is racist, an argument that has been made by numerous social justice warriors down the years’

    Weren’t some of the great mathematical advances made by the Ay-rabs? I’ll stand corrected but I recall something somewhere about those smelly Indians working out of the concept of zero as well.

    Racist bitch. Needs a good kicking.

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston,

    I found it just then whilst looking for Ghislane Maxwell jokes.

    A Dad Joke, before they became a thing.

  81. Arabs, India, the Greeks and Sumer invented everything up to calculus except decent notation for algebra.

    THEY AINT BLACK!!!

  82. KD

    Jizz Lane Max Swell

    Her name is almost a porno name.

  83. MemoryFault

    Ewwwwwww.

    Good morning Knuckles.
    That sounds painful. Maybe you need some kinesiology.
    Unfortunately I only have knowledge of relieving stress in female tension points, so I can’t help you.

  84. Ed Case

    India didn’t even have a written language before the Persians invaded and lifted them out of barbarism.
    Don’t believe anything an Indian says about how wonderful India is and was, they lie for the practice.

  85. P

    An Exclusive Interview with Composer Ennio Morricone
    In a 2009 interview with Register correspondent Edward Pentin, the Italian composer reflects on his life of writing for the movies — and his faith.

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    I’ve got to get to this course and be bored shitless.

    But whilst searching for a German translation of ‘Jizz Lane Max Swell’ for the purpose of porn joke-related amusement, I discovered that the Kraut translation of ‘Jizz’ is, predictably, ‘sperma’.

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww.

  88. notafan

    Brittany is clearly both an eminent historian and mathematics.

    The words two and four describe what you are doing.

    If you have a number of coconuts and want to give some people an equal numbers each what are you doing?

    Thus is painful.

    End university funding now.

    Self pay in advance only.

  89. dover_beach

    Tucker on fire. My God the American Left hate the US, just hate it:

  90. custard

    Classical Hero just posted (elsewhere) that he is recovering after having his thyroid removed. Says he’s a bit sore.

  91. MemoryFault

    Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww.

    Sounds like it’s getting worse, Knuckles.
    Maybe Albanese could recommend someone for you.
    Or do it himself.
    Apparently he’s very experienced in the relief of male tension points.
    Or maybe Christopher Pyne.

  92. Mater

    I had a look at the Hippocratic Oath to see what might motivate a CMO to crush so many livelihoods into the ground, in order to ‘save one life’.

    Oddly, I came across this, which might be worth them remembering.

    I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person’s family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

    I also note that someone has jammed this one into the Wikipedia version:

    I will protect the environment which sustains us, in the knowledge that the continuing health of ourselves and our societies is dependent on a healthy planet.

    I’m not sure that was part of the original!

  93. Dr Faustus

    In Rigorous and Impartial news:

    Coronavirus: WHO says experts will travel to China this weekend to study origins of COVID-19

    Dr Harris said the WHO team will investigate how animals host COVID-19 and how it is transferred to humans.

    WHO officials say it is vital to understand how the virus passed from wild animals to farm livestock and then to humans.

    Bats to humans via livestock, you say?
    Looks like they already have a pretty good idea what happened.

  94. Tintarella di Luna

    I note that Aborigines never put anyone into space.

    Are you sure mh, wasn’t that covered in Dark Emu or are you just being racist because such contemplation only happens to those with the privilege of knowing something.

  95. min

    Re IQ I heard Jordan Peterson and some others discussing this . One thing stated was USA does not recruit anyone belowIQ 83 for defence forces as below this they are not competent to do jobs . in old days repetitive jobs in factories is all they could manage so no jobs for them now and they make up 10% of population.

  96. Ed Case

    Bats to humans via livestock, you say?
    Looks like they already have a pretty good idea what happened.

    No, that’s not it.
    It’s all about shutting down the livestock industry for domestic consumption, the end of meat.
    Of corse most people eat so little meat that they are basically vegetarians anyway.

  97. mh

    I will admit I skipped the recent Dark Emu debate.

    I don’t think I missed much.

  98. MemoryFault

    Bats to humans via livestock, you say?
    Looks like they already have a pretty good idea what happened.

    They should. They wrote the script for it.
    Bill Gates picked up the tab.

  99. Good morning all.
    Dover Beach, excellent video. The response to President Trump and his superb speech is indeed nauseating.

  100. And the lady debating the merits of mathematics. I am sure she would have had to pass many admittance to university tests that would have had components of maths. Or is the halitosis she is emanating why she was admitted to uni?

  101. Damienski

    Bingo! I just heard some know-nothing millennial cadet journalist reporterette describe someone as a “Covid denier”. That’s the thing about stupid people – they don’t know how stupid they are.

  102. jo

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3506823, posted on July 8, 2020 at 7:07 am
    Rita Panahi in the Hun:

    ‘Former premier Jeff Kennett made a pertinent point last week about the human cost of restrictions, noting that “since January 1st about 375 Victorians have taken their own lives”.’

    The elf websites tell me coronavirus deaths in Vicco remain steady on 22.

    Obviously, nobody’s brave enough just yet to ascribe any of the 375 to having their life’s work ruined by a parasitic Spring Street communist.

    Should have taken DanXiMan instead of their own.

  103. Tintarella di Luna

    I will admit I skipped the recent Dark Emu debate.

    I don’t think I missed much.

    sorry mh forgot the /sarc — indeed you missed nothing and you stayed free of the splattering BS

  104. min

    Hippocrates would not even known the notion of a planet methinks.

  105. Top Ender

    mh…I note that Aborigines never put anyone into space.

    Re-education camp for you.

    Third on the left.

    See you in five years.

  106. Ed Case

    Same thing is happening in Texas.
    Supposed right winger Governor Greg Abbott is full steam ahead with testing even tho it’s a no brainer that
    the more testing, the more cases.
    So Dan is only doing what he’s told, just like Kennett back in the day.

  107. Tel

    Shouldn’t we have an independent investigation into the WHO and why they are always stooges for Beijing? This could be independently investigated by the World Bank or the UNHCR or some such group.

    After that … the WHO can conduct their independent investigation into how China concealed the origin of this virus. All paid for out of your tax, so you know it will be legit.

  108. Tintarella di Luna

    Bingo! I just heard some know-nothing millennial cadet journalist reporterette describe someone as a “Covid denier”. That’s the thing about stupid people – they don’t know how stupid they are.

    I can’t help but notice that so much of the hysteria and BS spreading is done by those who identify as female — most of the CMOs including Brett Sutton of Victoria are of that variety — shrill name-calling ignoramuses and catastrophists.

  109. mh

    The Left aren’t the Twitter bullies. No no no

    My ‘terrifying’ run-in with Donald Trump’s Twitter
    What happens when a private citizen gets caught up in Trump’s social media?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/72686b6d-abd2-471b-ae1d-8426522b1a97

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I will admit I skipped the recent Dark Emu debate.

    I don’t think I missed much.

    Bruce Pascoe still getting away with it all so far.

  111. Tel

    If maths is racist then all those demographics and statistics proving that racism is a problem, are also racist.

  112. Tintarella di Luna

    Shouldn’t we have an independent investigation into the WHO and why they are always stooges for Beijing? This could be independently investigated by the World Bank or the UNHCR or some such group.

    Amazing how notwithstanding the documented serious threats to global health such as SARS, H1N1 Swineflu, and others such as Ebola — it was an imperative for the WHO prepare for a pandemic of one kind or another but instead they fueled and spread the panicdemic of the human-to-human imaginary virus known as Anthropogenic Global Warming/Climate Change

  113. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #3506898, posted on July 8, 2020 at 8:41 am
    mh…I note that Aborigines never put anyone into space.

    Re-education camp for you.

    Third on the left.

    See you in five years.”

    Five years! No, no, no….it’s a Lubyanko cell for you….and you won’t need to take any change of clothing.

  114. notafan

    Of course if no one has it you can test all you want.

    Dan is finding muchly because the community sharing are very good at sharing.

  115. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce Pascoe still getting away with it all so far.”

    Oh yes….and Pascoe is being aided and abetted by “their ABC”….paid for by you and me, Nine Newspapers, the Malcolm Guardian and even corporate Australia…..which is giving the fabricator a platform to spruik his rubbish.

  116. notafan

    And I note the Dan tower theory.

    Again the obvious, those that live in overcrowded man made jungles, think New York, London, Paris are more likely to share contagious diseases.

    Us quarter acre blockers not so much.

  117. According to the Oz the Minister responsible for the VIC quarantine security arrangements was the Jobs minister. Seems his Union alignment is with NUW which includes the security industry workers.

    Putting Jobs in charge shows that they were more concerned with providing employment for Union mates than with actually providing a secure quarantine system. Could have got ADF support for free.

    Well done VIC. Cost the country yet more billions.

  118. Top Ender

    Tim Smith puts the boot in where it’s deserved in the Victoriastan government:

    Victorians are officially the pariahs of the nation, with NSW closing the state border. We Victorians are literally banned from the rest of our country. The border closure is a stiff economic penalty for regional communities along the Murray River, which are being punished for the negligence of Daniel Andrews and his ministers to manage hotel quarantine.

    We also have 3000 residents of nine public housing estates under house arrest and the rest of our suburbs and an adjoining shire back to stage-three lockdown because Andrews decided to use bouncers who fraternised with returned travellers in quarantine and spread the virus into the northern and western suburbs of Melbourne. The government proposes replacing private security with a mixture of prison officers and laid-off staff from Qantas and Jetstar to manage the mess. You couldn’t make this up.

    The commonwealth offered the deployment of the Australian Defence Force, for free, to the states for the task of managing hotel quarantine. Every state that accepted this offer has not had one single transmission of the virus.

    For ideological reasons Andrews’s gang-of-eight COVID cabinet refused the commonwealth offer, instead hiring private security. This turned into a fiasco with national implications and the three ministers responsible — Martin Pakula, Jenny Mikakos and Lisa Neville — should all have lost their jobs. It goes without saying that the Premier should resign.

    In any case, why was Pakula, the Jobs Minister, and his department put in charge of co-ordinating hotel quarantine? Here’s a clue: many of the untrained and ill-equipped private security guards are members of Pakula’s union, the NUW/United Voice.

    Equally odd was a sequence of events from June 25 when a panicked request was sent by the Victorian government to the ADF for immediate assistance with hotel quarantine. The next day Defence Minister Linda Reynolds told Melbourne radio: “Last night we received a request from the Victorian government … we’re looking to rapidly mobilise 1000 ADF personnel to be on the job from tomorrow in support of Victoria.”

    By the following day, that request had been rescinded. A ludicrous turf war had erupted between the Police Minister and the Health Minister, and finally Andrews caved in. Yet on July 1, when Neville fronted Neil Mitchell’s 3AW radio program, he asked if “at any stage early, was it ever discussed, the possibility of bringing in the Australian Defence Forces to run quarantine, as happened in NSW?”. She said “no”. Surely she knew this was not correct, and if she has misled voters she should resign or be sacked.

    Senior Department of Health bureaucrats, including Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton, were warned of problems with hotel quarantine as far back as April but Sutton distanced himself from it.

    “It (the decision) wasn’t mine, I haven’t been involved in the governance and operation,” he has been quoted as saying. “But it was jointly oversighted by emergency management within the Department of Health and Hum­an Services, Emergency Management Victoria and Department of Jobs Precinct and Regions.”

    Health Minister Mikakos and Pakula — jointly responsible for this fiasco — should resign, but no one in the Andrews government is willing to take responsibility for this recklessness. There is an inquiry being undertaken by a former judge — a political tactic to deflect questioning, and the findings won’t be known for months.

    The Jeff Kennett-led Liberal Party won the 1992 state election with the slogan the “Guilty Party”. Back then Labor had bankrupted the state and trashed its reputation. Fast-forward 28 years and this state Labor government has done it again. It is guilty of this second wave of COVID-19 and Labor’s negligence will set our economy back years.

    Tim Smith is the member for Kew in Victoria’s Legislative Assembly.

    Comments open if you can get past the Oz paywall

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh yes….and Pascoe is being aided and abetted by “their ABC”

    There are at least four books on the shelf at my local bookshop, written for young readers, and extolling the virtues of traditional Aboriginal culture, and what a wonderful, vibrant, rich culture it was.

  120. notafan

    Maths is racist because it facilitated advances in civilization.

    Like bridges and aqueducts and cathedrals.

    Just to make certain people think their civilization is superior.

    The Brittanies talk about it as though it as end in itself .

    It’s systematic.

    Systems are bad.

  121. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    describe someone as a “Covid denier”

    That would be Al “Popinjay, moi?” Jones.

    His two intro editorials on the global (and especially local) idiocy induced by the Muddle Kingdom’s mighty bat flu have been tours de force.

    As much as I hate to admit it, no one in the braindead lamestream meeja or elsewhere has been able to so clearly articulate what a f*cking hysterical sham the entire fascist over reaction has been.

    Jones’ TV editorials work because they’re obviously scripted and he’s not trying to ad-lib as he did on radio. Which is why I never bothered listening to his radio show – he would often stumble over his words and completely mangle his message.

    Local collectivists will of course, be thrilled that he’s back with a vengeance.

  122. DrBeauGan

    There are at least four books on the shelf at my local bookshop, written for young readers, and extolling the virtues of traditional Aboriginal culture, and what a wonderful, vibrant, rich culture it was.

    We’ll all get the chance to find out just how good it was when the education system takes us back to the aboriginal culture.

  123. notafan

    Lol on bill gates paid for Covid 19.

    Zootic illnesses are a known risk. There is nothing sinister in John Hopkins hosting a pandemic forum, which may well have been after covid19 first emerged in Chi-nA.

  124. notafan

    Aboriginal education will eliminate the need for books, classrooms and teachers.

    Save the taxpayer billions.

  125. MemoryFault

    Shouldn’t we have an independent investigation into the WHO and why they are always stooges for Beijing? This could be independently investigated by the World Bank or the UNHCR or some such group.

    It is interesting to note that The involvement of John Hopkins Centre for Health Security, the World Economic Forum, WHO, and the Bill Melinda Gates Foundation predate China’s involvement in this “panicdemic” business by several months.

    Curious, that.

  126. Nick

    Strange that museums are ‘yet’ to include Pascoe’s claims in their displays.
    The Left don’t understand that they are racist in fabricating a traditional aboriginal society where only good things happened. Coincidentally matching modern morals.

  127. calli

    They’re busy in the dunes again. Just exploded another mortar.

  128. notafan

    John Hopkins pandemic forum was hosted in October 2019

    Pretty of evidence that China had covid19 at the same time, or even before.

    I don’t think the math supports you.

    Another wild theory.

    I thought it was the A of G who were the ‘they’ atm

  129. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Leak Jr’s cartoon today is a classic on so many levels. His depiction of Dunderhead Dan Xi Man is peerless.

  130. lotocoti

    With mobs running amok, pulling down statues, the BBC is doing their bit to avoid any unpleasant reminders of the recent past.
    A bus did something.

  131. Ed Case

    It’s ethnic.
    People from Tribal and Clan cultures don’t appear to take rules regarding health or anything else seriously and are more likely to be found in Social Housing in Victoria, which means high rises in inner suburbs.
    So, if you’re a Premier whose brief it is to somehow fudge the figures to prove a Pandemic is on the loose, it makes sense to lockdown those towers and test everybody inside.
    Yeah, it’s cynical, probably racist too, but that never stops the ALP.
    If Gladys tried this stunt, different story …

  132. Nick

    Peak stupid

    The federal government will no longer require individual states to have opened their internal borders before allowing international students to return to Australia, acknowledging the situation in Victoria requires a “ring of containment”, Guardian Australia understands.

  133. calli

    The Birubi dunes just did something too.

    Amazing, all these random explosions.

  134. Ed Case

    Zootic illnesses are a known risk.

    Sure, but Covid-19 isn’t a zoonotic disease.

    There is nothing sinister in John Hopkins hosting a pandemic forum, which may well have been after covid19 first emerged in Chi-nA.

    Since Covid-19 isn’t a zoonotic disease, yes, it is quite sinister.

  135. White whale reckons Sanskrit was invented by *Aryans*.

    But of course.

    How can you hate an animal?

  136. DrBeauGan

    Aboriginal education will eliminate the need for books, classrooms and teachers.

    Save the taxpayer billions.

    I dunno. We’d have to spend a fortune on pascoe clones to tell us that the trees are our brothers.

  137. calli

    The federal government will no longer require individual states to have opened their internal borders before allowing international students to return to Australia,

    In other words, it’s all bullsh*t.

    This joint will be a beaut bargain basement buy for a cashed up regime. Can’t imagine who that might be.

  138. Cassie of Sydney

    “Top Ender
    #3506912, posted on July 8, 2020 at 8:53 am
    Tim Smith puts the boot in where it’s deserved in the Victoriastan government:”

    I have to say that Tim Smith is not bad. He seems to be the first Victoriastan Liberal in twenty years with any cojones however, just watch, the ALP will probably win again in 2022 because I think most Victoriastanis are now far-left progressive zombies..they are no different to members of a cult.

  139. Knuckle Dragger

    Tinta, 8.42;

    ‘much of the hysteria and BS spreading is done by those who identify as women’

    Ron Swanson quote:

    ‘In my department I’m often surrounded by women. And that includes the men.’

  140. calli

    Oh. And there’s a DFAT travel warning to China because of the strong chance of arbitrary detention.

    But do send us your poxy “students”.

  141. Roger

    Devolution:

    27% of Englanders surveyed this year favoured leaving the UK.

    Among Tories the figure was a very significant 49%.

    That makes the notion of English independence more popular there than Welsh independence is in Wales.

    Since the collapse of the Soviet Union and the disintegration of the Eastern bloc, the devolution of political unions and the rise of nationalism – no longer a dirty word – is the political story of our time.

    It may be hard to imagine the Commonwealth dissolving, but the response to covid-19 has demonstrated a constitutional fact many Australians were ignorant of: Our states are sovereign entities in their own right.

    The drive to centralise power & authority in Canberra that has chacterised Australian politics since the 1940s is due for revision.

  142. Nick

    Just reading a summary of the allegations made against Trump by his niece. It’s strange that Obama’s far more dysfunctional upbringing and history gets a pass from luvvies.

  143. Knuckle Dragger

    Apparently there is an Opposition in Victoria.

    Even more amazingly, it has a leader. Someone called Michael O’Brien.

    Who knew?

  144. Struth

    I think some may be getting the words mismanaged and manufactured mixed up.
    Far be it from me to be the one to point it out.

  145. DrBeauGan

    I have to say that Tim Smith is not bad. He seems to be the first Victoriastan Liberal in twenty years with any cojones however, just watch, the ALP will probably win again in 2022 because I think most Victoriastanis are now far-left progressive zombies..they are no different to members of a cult.

    The awful truth is that most men and nearly all women, present company excepted, are natural born slaves who find independent thought too scary to contemplate. They have a desperate need to be told what to think and feel.

  146. Mater

    The federal government will no longer require individual states to have opened their internal borders before allowing international students to return to Australia, acknowledging the situation in Victoria requires a “ring of containment”, Guardian Australia understands.

    So I can’t go North of Echuca or South of Gisborne, but international students can fly in from overseas?

    This place needs an enema.

  147. thefrollickingmole

    Government: We must stop this disease from getting into our precious bodily fluids..

    Also government: We must bring in potential disease vectors from overseas to protect out university chancellors precious bodily fluids…

    Australia to allow international university students to return before all state borders open
    Government lifts conditions in light of Victoria Covid-19 outbreak, saying situation requires a ‘ring of containment’

    The federal government has not yet received a pilot plan from Queensland. NSW submitted an ambitious proposal for up to 30,000 international students to return in groups of 250 a day from July. The federal government rejected that proposal and asked NSW to revise its downwards.

    Under the ACT international student pilot, ANU and University of Canberra propose to fly 350 international students to Canberra from an as-yet undecided hub to resume their studies in July.

    So on one hand ordinary plebs will be locked down/fucked around and lose their jobs/businesses until a vaccine is developed & launched.
    But we will knowingly and deliberately import potential vectors from overseas.

    Awful people our leaders.
    The worst
    Believe me.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAHJCPoWCC8

  148. Top Ender

    Interesting article

    US elite betrays the people in its casting of the evil empire

    WORLD COMMENTARY
    GERARD BAKER

    That was quick.

    At the end of the 20th century, the US had won World War II and the Cold War, liberated half the planet from history’s most dehumanising ideologies, advanced a freemarket capitalism that had led more humans out of poverty than any economic system ever devised, and given the world the richest bounty of intellectual, cultural and scientific capital since the Enlightenment.

    Americans could — and did — look at themselves and the nation they had built with immense pride.

    Twenty years later, much of the country’s political leadership, almost its entire academic establishment, most of the people who control its news and cultural output, and a good deal of its corporate elite view the US as an irredeemably malignant force for enslavement and oppression, a uniquely evil power founded on an ideology of racial supremacy. These Jacobins demand that Americans repudiate most of the nation’s history, tear down the icons of its creation and engage in a collective cultural expurgation of its sins.

    Only four years ago, senator Bernie Sanders, a man not noted for a surfeit of patriotic fervour, visited Mount Rushmore and pronounced: “It really does make one very proud to be an American.” On Friday (Saturday AEST), when President Donald Trump made the pilgrimage, we were told that he was appearing, in the words of a CNN reporter, “in front of a monument of two slave owners and on land wrestled away from Native Americans”.

    If the self-image of Americans a generation ago was that of a smiling GI receiving flowers from liberated peoples, today we’re told it’s a police boot stamping on a human face forever. What happened?

    We can hope that the present mania is in part one of the baleful consequences of the lockdown lunacy. If you’ve been stuck at home mainlining the distortions of the media for four months, your tolerance threshold for fiction has doubtless been raised.

    But the roots of the current insanity are more profound than the inch-deep scholarship of the sophomores now in control of America’s newsrooms.

    With hindsight, it’s clear that the US in 2020 was ripe for the kind of mindless Maoism that demands fealty to its gospel of ideological cleansing. The nation has reached a combustive moment. The rot in America’s cultural institutions was spread for more than half a century by a self-loathing cultural establishment. Now it has matured amid a public malaise induced by 20 years of elitedriven political and economic failure that has undermined faith in the system that made America great.

    The cultural corrosion has been evident for decades. Perhaps what we should have seen better were its consequences: generations of students fed a steady diet of critical race theory and postcolonial gender studies — all delivered in safe spaces protected by an intolerance of dissent — poured out of college campuses into the world, waving their white-fragility texts like little red books.

    But they graduated into an America that has been convulsed by two decades of unaccustomed failure and loss. In 20 years, wars and foreign-policy failures in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere; financial breakdown; and now the pandemic have exposed a hollow political leadership.

    All the while the capitalism that had produced so much opportunity for so many has become increasingly a vehicle of power for a few. Megacompanies in finance and technology have grown unchecked. The modern woke corporation publicly disdains and derides the values on which the nation — and its profits — were built, even as it pursues global opportunities at the expense of American communities.

    It won’t be enough to reassert America’s great historic virtues. It will require weakening the power of the totalitarians on campus, ensuring fair access for all voices on tech platforms, holding to account the lawless mobs defacing and defaming the nation’s legacy.

    But it will also require addressing the rot in American capitalism, reining in the power of bloated monopolies and ensuring that corporations prioritise Americans over their globalist, progressive agendas.

    This is personal for me. I came to this country as that great American century was closing. Like millions of immigrants I was drawn by the irresistible allure of a nation forged in pursuit of a universal ideal it had actually succeeded in achieving. Of course, we knew there was a sharp tear in America’s vibrant fabric, a legacy of racial prejudice that mocked the ideals of the founding. But the nation’s demonstrated ability to advance beyond that, to mend and improve itself, makes America even more admirable.

    This country hasn’t passed from great to evil in two decades. America hasn’t failed. But Americans have been failed — misled by inept and deceitful political leaders, deserted by predatory and mercenary corporate chiefs, and, above all, betrayed by a parasitic cultural elite that exploited American freedom to trash the country. It isn’t America’s history that needs to be repudiated. It’s its present.

    THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

  149. MemoryFault

    John Hopkins pandemic forum was hosted in October 2019
    Pretty of evidence that China had covid19 at the same time, or even before.

    Nota, at some point you are just going to have to start reading more than just the throwaway headlines of press releases. Yes, it’s true the actual event was held in October, 2019 and it is possible that China already had the problem by then.

    However –

    John Hopkins was advertising the “upcoming” event back in June, 2019, the Gates Foundation had already committed to financing it, and research into the spread of pandemics had been going on for decades. None of these inconvenient facts fits your your overwhelming need to rubbish me, so they are conveniently just left out of your narrative.

    Add to that the fact that your very first comment today was on Farr’s Law and the prevalence of Bell Curve progress of typical pandemics, coupled with the fact that the entire conference ignored all such known and observed facts and each and every scenario acted out was based on the concept of an ever worsening crisis – exactly what was eventually put into practice – and surely even your narrow mind has to start asking questions.

  150. Geriatric Mayfly

    Leak Jr’s cartoon today is a classic on so many levels. His depiction of Dunderhead Dan Xi Man is peerless.

    It’s in serious competition with a photo in The Oz. The pudding-head appears as though he’s about to be attacked by bats from stage left.

  151. Zyconoclast

    JC

    Bolawrap kind of looks like shackles and we know what shackles mean.

  152. twostix

    The federal government will no longer require individual states to have opened their internal borders before allowing international students to return to Australia, acknowledging the situation in Victoria requires a “ring of containment”, Guardian Australia understands.

    We’re seeing a leviathan fight between the commonwealth and the states play out.

    I wrote a couple of years ago that the commonwealth has lost the heart of the actual Australian nation that built and sustains it. A vacuum is forming and the state powers are eager to run riot again.

    Last century was characterised by the national government out-politicking the state governments and power flowing to it. Putting a boot on the excesses of states – Jack Lang’s smack down is the pinnacle example of that. The people desired this, memories of corrupt local colonial governments turned state governments and the entrenched power systems that ran them were still fresh. The people wanted an light-touch overseer to protect them and so made one. Now a century later the commonwealth they created is itself lifeless and corrupted and works against them so they turn inwards, back towards their local powers.

    There’s good and bad sides to this, one of the properly bad ones is that if you’re in a shit state like Victoria with a rotten and deranged Premier who runs to China and scrapes before them nobody is going to help you. We’re all used to the feds giving a good kicking to dumbo state premiers, but that’s over now. There may also be no easy free flowing escape to another state like there used to be.

  153. Zyconoclast

    Immigration programs should serve the host country to the nth degree. Australia’s program doesn’t, it’s simply a socialist scam to swamp the country with badly behaved idiots who consistently vote left wing.

    Sounds true but complicated.
    Why not it shut it down completely for 5 years.
    See what happens, learn new things and then formulate policy after that.

  154. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Australia to allow international university students to return before all state borders open

    This is absolutely f*cking inexcusable.

    Anyone here still think these vile Quislings don’t all deserve to be administered lengthy public floggings and then hanged?

  155. mh

    Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3506964, posted on July 8, 2020 at 9:34 am
    The pudding-head appears as though he’s about to be attacked by bats from stage left.

    Jizz hands?

  156. Struth

    We’re seeing a leviathan fight between the commonwealth and the states play out

    And complete submission from the Victorian people.

  157. DrBeauGan

    Sounds true but complicated.
    Why not it shut it down completely for 5 years.
    See what happens, learn new things and then formulate policy after that.

    Nobody will do it. It’s counter to the prevailing ideology/cult.

  158. Old School Conservative

    Footballers in past eras would have gone to sea in a hollow log

    Wally Lewis was interviewed on 2GB this morning.
    He said that in game 1 of SOO in 1980 he was paid $260 to go into pre-game camp, in lieu of missed wages from work.

  159. twostix

    Victoria can test all they want.

    They’re going to prove that the virus is out there all over the place and so is no where near as deadly as was made out during the hysterical phase.

    Then every can promptly ignore that obvious matter and carry on with their latest cultish OCD driven apocalypse fantasy.

  160. thefrollickingmole

    Nick beats me like a rented mule to a gruinaid post again…
    The hugemanitee.

  161. Knuckle Dragger

    Stix, just now;

    Perfect description of current events.

  162. MemoryFault

    Anyone here still think these vile Quislings don’t all deserve to be administered lengthy public floggings and then hanged?

    Apparently public floggings and hangings are okay with the Catallaxy crowd, Spurgeon.
    But don’t dare suggest not voting for them if they happen to be Liberal, or there will be hell to pay.

  163. Mater

    We’re seeing a leviathan fight between the commonwealth and the states play out.

    If there is going to be a pissing contest between the Federal Libs and the State Labs, the response is obvious. Morro just needs to make sure that the relief measures stop in Sep, as planned.
    Watch Dan jump around on hot coals when that happens.
    At the moment, Dan’s funding Victoria’s personal bar tab, with Scott’s Credit Card.

  164. twostix

    And complete submission from the Victorian people.

    People are turning back towards their states for the first time in a century.

    The problem is state level politics has been left untended for nearly a century by the everyman. Federal politics so dominated the time and mind that nobody has any idea of what state politics even means. People are going to have to learn how state politics even works again – who are the players, the power structures, the tribes, the families etc before we can figure out how to get control of it.

    It’ll take awhile.

    People will then eventually figure out that a distant light touch overseer with no tribal allegiances to the local power structure is needed and around federation will go again!

  165. I note that Neil Mitchell has backflipped. On Monday, he was bemoaning why Andrews didn’t bring in the ADF to monitor the motels and hotels where new arrivals were shacked up.
    Today, not so much. Arguing that it may be unconstitutional or something to have the Feds overrule on State issues I think is what he said.
    Yesterday his work was revolting. He admitted he was all in favour of the lockdown but that tune seemed to have changed during the show. People ringing in from the Flemington caves (ht Knuckle Dragger) desperate for answers and also for basic needs like food. What followed was white knighting the likes you wouldn’t believe. “Hold the line, we will see what we can do ” etc etc. Seems like he is having two bob each way.

  166. Top Ender

    Speaking of Aboriginal education and solutions the ABC s pushing this – previously mentioned here I believe, but not in entirety:

    At the time of filming In My Blood It Runs, Dujuan Hoosan was just 10 years old, but he could see how the education system did not value his cultural knowledge.

    Dujuan is a proud Arrernte and Garrwa boy who lives in Hidden Valley town camp in Alice Springs. He also has healing powers; a gift his grandfather passed on to him.

    “It’s my job to look after the people,” he says in the film.

    The critically acclaimed documentary told through the eyes of charismatic 10-year-old Arrernte/Garrwa boy, Dujuan and his family.

    Throughout the film we see Dujuan use his hands to heal his family members.

    In one scene, his aunt asks him to heal her while she is in a hospital bed with a leg wound.

    But we also see Dujuan struggle with school attendance — a challenge many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children face across the county.

    The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare reports that primary school attendance rates for Indigenous students “did not improve between 2014 and 2018 and they remained below the rate for non-Indigenous students”.

    By following Dujuan we can learn why this is a challenge for young Indigenous kids and Indigenous families.

    ‘I’m a bush kid’

    Dujuan can speak three languages but struggles with reading and writing at school.

    “If you finish primary school and then finish high school, then you learn. But I’m a bush kid,” he said.

    “I was born a little Aboriginal kid. That means that I have a memory, a memory of Aboriginal people. In my blood it runs.”

    Dujuan is forced to learn from two different knowledge systems, as his grandmother Carol Turner said: “White people educate our kids in the way they want them to be educated.”

    “But I want them to learn their language so they can carry on their language. I want my children to grow up learning in both ways.”

    While he knows some of his ancestors’ native tongues, Dujuan has to learn and speak in English at school.

    This is something he wants to change.

    Last year, Dujuan became the youngest person ever to address the Human Rights Council at the United Nations in Geneva.

    “I want my school to be run by Aboriginal people,” he told the council.

    “I want my future to be on land with strong language and culture.”

    A broken education system

    Hayley McQuire, a Darumbal and South Sea Islander woman, is the co-founder and national coordinator of the National Indigenous Youth Education Coalition.

    She said the coalition is reflective of young Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who are committed to asserting Indigenous rights to education as part of the UN declaration of rights for Indigenous people.

    “Part of that is that we have the right to self-determine and self-govern what our education system is,” she said.

    Jane Vadiveloo is the founding chief executive of Children’s Ground and was also an adviser for In My Blood It Runs.

    Children’s Ground is a First Nations-led organisation that is deeply rooted in Indigenous communities.

    “Culture is right through everything we do,” Ms Vadiveloo said.

    An ABC-wide initiative to reflect, listen and build on the shared national identity of Indigenous and non-Indigenous people.

    Ms Vadiveloo also sees firsthand how Indigenous children struggle to learn in a Western education system.

    “A big challenge they face is a system that doesn’t speak their language or culture, and doesn’t see their strengths,” she said.

    “[The system] sees them through a deficit lens rather than a lens of cultural strength, resilience and knowledge.”

    So how can we change this?

    Ms McQuire said Australia’s education model is one that “came out of the industrial revolution and was all about preparing people to work in factories, overlayed with 20th-century teaching practices trying to educate 21st-century kids”.

    She and the National Indigenous Youth Education Coalition believe one way to change the education system is to listen to our young Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

    “Our young people are never asked about the type of education they would like or asked if they feel culturally safe in [their] learning environment,” Ms McQuire said.

    “We really have to think critically about how we educate, what we teach, and how we teach it.”

    But she also said it is much bigger than just changing the curriculum.

    She said Indigenous children needed to be taught content that was reflective of them and where they can see themselves, especially in the subject of history.

    “Aboriginal children don’t need to be fixed, and Dujuan’s a great example of that,” Ms Vadiveloo said.

    “Their brilliance and their intelligence and knowledge need to be understood, respected and held up in our systems. Whether it’s education, health, economies or any other systems.”

    Throughout her career, Ms Vadiveloo has seen how programs can be successful if they are created by Indigenous people for Indigenous people.

    “When the solutions are driven by community … they own it, they hold it, they drive it, it’s a dramatic change,” she said.

    And if there are to be systemic reforms that will work in education, Ms McQuire wants the design of that framework put “back in the hands of our mob”.

    “We have so many amazing Aboriginal educators that are out there, it’s not like we’re starting from ground zero,” she said.

    Educate yourself on your local history

    To truly help Indigenous children and communities achieve real change, both Ms Vadiveloo and Ms McQuire recommend learning about your local history.

    “I think what non-Indigenous people can do as a really basic step is to really know and understand the local history of the land that they occupy,” she said.

    “And recognise that that land has been cared for and looked after by generations of First Nations people.

    “We’ve developed our own systems of learning and educating and have sustained that practice for thousands of years.

    “That’s a value that Australia, in general, has just not tapped into or recognised.”

    Ms Vadiveloo suggests as a nation, we need to acknowledge the past and face up to our historical truths.

    “And the next step then is to walk together in a shared identity and celebrate the culture of these lands,” she said.

    Link

  167. cohenite

    The magic negro’s legacy lives on in the form of activist judges, who aren’t judges really:

    America’s energy supply just received three devastating blows.

    A federal district court shut down the Dakota Access Pipeline and ordered it drained of oil.

    The Supreme Court excluded the Keystone XL Pipeline from an otherwise positive decision that a number of pipeline projects be “fast tracked.”

    Dominion Energy won a major court victory for its Atlantic Pipeline, then decided to scrap it anyway, deciding the delays and costs imposed by left-wing obstruction were just too much. Dominion’s stock promptly plunged 11.3%.

    In recent years we have been favored by a long-awaited energy renaissance, with American energy independence and security achieved at last. It is a tragedy of astounding proportions that tremendously well-financed efforts are continually underway nationwide to obstruct, delay, and in effect ruin America’s energy infrastructure.

    Energy Secretary Dan Brouillette issued a hard-hitting a statement about the Dakota Access decision that could apply to all three: “It is disappointing that, once again, an energy infrastructure project that provides thousands of jobs and millions of dollars in economic revenue has been shut down by the well-funded environmental lobby, using our Nation’s court system to further their agenda. The Dakota Access Pipeline safely provides affordable and reliable American-produced crude oil across the Midwest, and has created approximately 10,000 jobs. In addition, the shutdown will eliminate millions of tax dollars paid by the pipeline each year that go towards schools, hospitals, and other community services in North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, and Illinois.”

    The far Left, of course, is jubilant. Greenpeace climate director Janet Redmans said, “Three dangerous pipelines delayed within 24 hours should serve as a clear warning to any companies hoping to double down on dirty fossil fuel projects. For more than a decade now, a powerful movement has been taking on reckless oil and gas pipelines and fighting to put Indigenous rights, a just economy, and our environment before oil company profits… It is past time to leave fossil fuels in the ground and begin a just transition to a Green New Deal and 100 percent renewable energy.”

  168. twostix

    If there is going to be a pissing contest between the Federal Libs and the State Labs, the response is obvious. Morro just needs to make sure that the relief measures stop in Sep, as planned.
    Watch Dan jump around on hot coals when that happens.
    At the moment, Dan’s funding Victoria’s personal bar tab, with Scott’s Credit Card.

    Andrews has pretty effortlessly run the country (wagged the dog) during this whole thing by simply announcing n+1 degrees of “lockdown”. He knows he has the international power behind him on that all the way, and there’s no upper bound to the lunacy that a lot of the mob will accept on this.

    It’s taken the combined efforts of the feds and NSW to barely contain him this time.

    But they’re already talking about extending the JobKeeper because of Victoria now. So he’s really not contained at all and is still running things from behind.

    Ultimately it goes back to this: Andrews and state premiers are filling a vacuum left by the dreadful behaviour of commonwealth politicians over the last decade, and the left have targeted state politics instead of federal politics which means the state premiers right now are simply way better politicians than federal politicians.

  169. Roger

    Last year, Dujuan became the youngest person ever to address the Human Rights Council at the United Nations in Geneva.

    “I want my school to be run by Aboriginal people,” he told the council.

    “I want my future to be on land with strong language and culture.”

    He’s certainly been schooled well by someone.

  170. Knuckle Dragger

    Poor Dujuan.

    They’ve made him the latest Thunberg-style poster child for the indig industry.

  171. Yes, because that’s what prospective employers look for in a candidate. To see if they can speak the native tongue. And if there is a different answer to 2+2. Thinking checkout at the local IGA is not a destination for the young bloke. FMD

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘In My Blood It Runs’

    The ladeeee is referring to warm Chardonnay out of a goon bag, which was removed from its cask and secreted under the armpit with a purloined hospital bandage.

    In the traditional way.

  173. A timely piece –

    For those who have been sensibly hibernating these past three years, perhaps a little documentation is in order. The president recently labeled peaceful protesters “thugs” and “scum”; he has called Bette Midler a “washed up psycho,” and “sick scammer”; Elijah Cummings a “brutal bully”; Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a “wack job”; Rosie O’Donnell a “fat pig” and a “slob”; Arianna Huffington a “dog”; Kirsten Gillibrand a “total flunky” and “lightweight”; Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough “crazy” and “psycho.” He said Brzezinski was Scarborough’s “very insecure long-time girlfriend” and “a neurotic and not very bright mess.” He accused former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson of being “dumb” and “lazy as hell,” called former Attorney General Jeff Sessions “weak,” “mentally retarded,” a “dumb Southerner,” and an “idiot.”

    Having taught European history for three decades, I believe such words of disdain are unprecedented in the public utterances of an elected leader. They go far beyond reasoned criticism to what one might call spiritual annihilation: the enemies have flaws so ugly that the speaker wishes they did not exist. Students of history have to go far to the extremes of right and left to find language so drenched in hatred, up to and beyond the crazy fringes, into the realms of Bolsheviks and, yes, fascists. Soviet and Nazi leaders did not shrink from the vilest ad hominem attacks, calling their enemies insects or vermin.

    It’s also a feature of this blog.

  174. Struth

    They’re going to prove that the virus is out there all over the place and so is no where near as deadly as was made out during the hysterical phase.

    Apparently if you are sick with covid the symptoms are that you feel horny around security guards.

  175. MemoryFault

    Time to do some more work and make some more money. Although I’m not really sure why anymore.
    My life is beginning to look a bit pointless these days. Maybe I need to get a dog.

  176. egg_

    They’re going to prove that the virus is out there all over the place and so is no where near as deadly as was made out during the hysterical phase.

    When the nutters and sociopaths BIRM climb out from under their rocks.

  177. egg_

    Covid 19 William farrs way out of the Pandemic

    Posted on CL’s relevant Farr’s Law thread months ago.

    /Groundhog’s Day

  178. H B Bear

    They’ve made him the latest Thunberg-style poster child for the indig industry.

    Greta in possum skin underpants.

  179. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob, 10.08;

    To use one of your favourite, sneering pompous phrases, complete with drifting off full stops:

    ‘If the cap fits……’

  180. Old School Conservative

    I believe such words of disdain are unprecedented in the public utterances of an elected leader.

    Of course we cannot forget Hillary civility toward Republicans cannot return until Democrats regain power Clinton, Eric “kick ’em” Holder, Maxine get in their faces at gas stations, restaurants or wherever they may see them. Walters, or James hit list of republicans Hodgkinson.

    But yes, let’s criticise an elected President who fights back.
    PS Hodgkinson was the man who shot elected House leader Scalise. Yes SHOT him and 3 others. because they were Republicans.
    Slipped your fading memory eh Numbers?

  181. H B Bear

    They’re going to prove that the virus is out there all over the place and so is no where near as deadly as was made out during the hysterical phase.

    Time for a Bex and a lie down.

  182. Old School Conservative

    Maybe I need to get a dog

    Time consuming, incessant cleaning up after, irritating things.
    And the best thing you will ever do.

  183. mh

    Numbers – our CNN guy

    Everyday words and phrases that have racist connotations

    Peanut gallery: The phrase typically refers to the cheapest seats in a theater, and is informally used to describe critics or hecklers.
    When someone says “no comments from the peanut gallery,” it implies that a certain group of commentators is rowdy or uninformed.

    The term dates back to the vaudeville era of the late 19th century and referred to the sections of the theater where Black people typically sat. Jeffrey Barg, who writes a language column for the Philadelphia Inquirer, noted recently that the first documented use of “peanut gallery” appeared in the New Orleans Times-Picayune in 1867.
    The term was cemented in pop culture in the 1940s, when the radio show “Howdy Doody” used it to refer to its live audience of children. That name also carried over to the TV version of “Howdy Doody” in the 1950s…

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/us/racism-words-phrases-slavery-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2020-07-06T14%3A20%3A04&utm_source=twCNN

  184. Tintarella di Luna

    One of the people from ancient Rome whose writings I think are timeless is the Stoic, Marcus Aurelius — I think this is a wise attitude to adopt:

    “When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: The people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous, and surly. They are like this because they can’t tell good from evil.”

    I suppose he was saying something about being selectively pessimistic when you don’t want to be totally crushed.

  185. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Hodgkinson was the man who shot elected House leader Scalise

    Then of course there was the psycho neighbore who physically attacked poor ol’ Rand Paul while latter was mowing his lawn.

  186. egg_

    John Hopkins was advertising the “upcoming” event back in June, 2019, the Gates Foundation had already committed to financing it, and research into the spread of pandemics had been going on for decades.

    The West was cooperating with and supplying organic material to the Wuhan lab.

  187. Farmer Gez

    It’s also a feature of this blog.

    Don’t darken it’s door then.

    Bye bye old fella.

  188. egg_

    /Groundhog’s Day

    Methinks it’s becoming an Alzheimer’s blog, where you tune in any day of the week and the same debates are raging.

  189. incoherent rambler

    Total deaths in Viktoristan from Woofloo is 22 (health.gov.au)
    NSW total is 49.

    Draconian restrictions in Viktoristan.
    Panicked Viktoristanis are fleeing to NSW.

    You couldn’t make this up.

  190. Roger

    “When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: The people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous, and surly. They are like this because they can’t tell good from evil.”

    Rather, they are like this because they are evil.

  191. Tintarella di Luna

    Posted on CL’s relevant Farr’s Law thread months ago.

    /Groundhog’s Day

    Yep thought there was something familiar but these days not much sinks into to conscious level

  192. Infidel Tiger King

    Nine Media is now just a pamphlet for CCP propaganda.

    Scary times.

  193. Tintarella di Luna

    Rather, they are like this because they are evil.

    Sums up Nancy Pelosi and the Demoncrats very well

  194. egg_

    Andrews has pretty effortlessly run the country (wagged the dog) during this whole thing by simply announcing n+1 degrees of “lockdown”. He knows he has the international power behind him on that all the way, and there’s no upper bound to the lunacy that a lot of the mob will accept on this.

    It’s taken the combined efforts of the feds and NSW to barely contain him this time.

    But they’re already talking about extending the JobKeeper because of Victoria now. So he’s really not contained at all and is still running things from behind.

    Ultimately it goes back to this: Andrews and state premiers are filling a vacuum left by the dreadful behaviour of commonwealth politicians over the last decade, and the left have targeted state politics instead of federal politics which means the state premiers right now are simply way better politicians than federal politicians.

    There’s been a power vacuum Federlally since Howard departed, filled with second then third rate career politicians, of which SloMo is the worst iteration.

    Andrews is behaving like a scolding Headmaster, but is a clueless moron who’s dug a big hole for himself trying to outplay the other Premiers.
    Now he’s after ScoMo’s Credit Card.
    He’s now in a weak position.

  195. Why would the Police Minister in VIC be concerned about a turf war ? The VIC police were obviously given an exemption from being involved in quarantine duties. Then it appears she was not keen on the ADF helping either. She actually seems to have been actively involved in hindering the arrangements rather than trying to help. Perhaps she did not want the police involved as that way she could not be held accountable.

    Who decided not to involve police and why ? On each hotel quarantine duty shift who was actually in charge ? A hired security guard supervisor or civil servant and if so from which Department ?

    So now the cops have to provide 500 to guard those blocks due to the fact somebody did not want them deployed to the hotels.

    Also note the school with a ROP name does not seem to get much mention despite a very high number of cases there.

    Only a 6 billion $ stuff up for VIC over next 6 weeks.

    “ludicrous turf war had erupted between the Police Minister and the Health Minister”

  196. calli

    On Groundhog Day

    “People need to be reminded more often than they need to be instructed.”

    ― Samuel Johnson

  197. Struth

    Now section 117 shows itself as the cure to this tyranny once more.
    But ’tis totally ignored!

    The federal government should be by law, in charge of quarantine.
    Therefore states cannot make decisions based on where people live.
    They cannot discriminate.
    Now we see what happens even more as the constitution is ignored and no one brings up the bleeding obvious.

  198. thefrollickingmole

    In Bizzaro world their ABC just had a fawning interview with the Nuclear death walrus (Bolton) helping to spruik his book.

    Lots of digging for “Trump is Hitler” being deflected to “read the book” by Bolton.

  199. egg_

    The mysterious $50m: questions surround NSW’s coronavirus arts relief fund
    Government scheme, which was designed to allow organisations to hibernate and then restart, has not yet awarded any funding

  200. Boambee John

    min

    . in old days repetitive jobs in factories is all they could manage so no jobs for them now and they make up 10% of population.

    Greens protestors? Repetitive jobs running around waving placards?

  201. egg_

    The funds’ apparent stagnation comes as the NSW arts community grapples with revelations in May that former arts minister Don Harwin and deputy premier John Barilaro directed arts grants towards Coalition electorates in 2018 contrary to the advice of advisors. Barilaro told the ABC the projects “were all funded based on merit and the [grants] are designed where the discretion is left with the minister”.

    Porkbarrelling during the plague?

  202. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The VIC police were obviously given an exemption from quarantine duties’

    I will assert here, and this may be just me, that this may be because enforcement of policy created and since mangled by bubble-dwelling bureaucrats with little or no life experience isn’t, or at least shouldn’t be, their goddamned job.

    I know this concept is a departure from recent VicPol related events, but geez.

  203. calli

    Seriously? How difficult is it to test this stuff?

  204. egg_

    On each hotel quarantine duty shift who was actually in charge ? A hired security guard supervisor or civil servant and if so from which Department ?

    The problem with outsourcing.
    The PPE message obviously got lost somewhere along the way.

  205. Infidel Tiger King

    Jim Crumley
    @JimCrumley
    ·
    8h
    This would explain Trump’s renewed focus on Nevada and New Mexico and Biden rushing resources to Nevada.

    Latino Landslide? New Poll Shows Thirty-nine Percent Back Trump https://marketresearchfoundation.org/2020/07/07/latino-landslide-new-poll-shows-thirty-nine-percent-back-trump/… via
    @Market
    Research Foundation

    Interesting.

    The bad behaviour by BLM and pandering by Dems is driving Latinos to Trump.

    That’s the danger with politics by division.

  206. mh

    In Bizzaro world their ABC just had a fawning interview with the Nuclear death walrus (Bolton) helping to spruik his book.

    Bolton is actually an old favourite with the ABC.

    Another neo con they love is Bill Kristol.

  207. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I suppose he was saying something about being selectively pessimistic when you don’t want to be totally crushed.

    I think it’s more about not being disappointed or demoralised by the riff raff

  208. calli

    We’ve supposedly had top scientists worldwide researching this thing for six months and only now they think it might be transferrable by small particle aerosol?

    What the hell have these “top people” been doing? Apart from filling in time sheets.

  209. calli

    Aaaand…it makes a mockery of the stupid App that we couldn’t do without.

  210. dover_beach

    The president recently labeled peaceful protesters “thugs” and “scum”

    LOL. Ah yes, the wanton looting, murders and general lawlessness has only coincided with these ‘peaceful protests’. BTW, not surprised to see that Commonweal would ignore the destruction of statutes depicting saints and martyrs.

  211. areff

    “I was born a little Aboriginal kid. “

  212. Cassie of Sydney

    “The bad behaviour by BLM and pandering by Dems is driving Latinos to Trump.

    That’s the danger with politics by division.”‘

    An inevitable reaction…and a sweet one. Victor Davis Hanson said as much in a podcast a few weeks ago.

  213. dover_beach

    We’ve had complete anarchy in major US cities, murders rising, people assaulted and robbed, homes and businesses trashed. All ginned up and promoted by the Left and yet they are accusing Trump of Bolshevism and fascism because he calls them names.

  214. stackja

    Vic police been busy with Lawyer X and GP, didn’t want hotel duty?

  215. thefrollickingmole

    Schools would be well advised to set aside a week each year to go through Stoicism.

    Instead of fruitcakes externalizing everything they see as an insult or “microaggression” you would end up with a much more tolerant and emotionally robust populace.

    Which is of course completely counter to what is currently taught, grievance 101 every day for 12 or so years.
    https://dailystoic.com/stoic-quotes/

    “Life is very short and anxious for those who forget the past, neglect the present, and fear the future.” – Seneca

  216. dover_beach

    Open those schools:

  217. DrBeauGan

    I suppose he was saying something about being selectively pessimistic when you don’t want to be totally crushed.

    I think it’s more about not being disappointed or demoralised by the riff raff

    Yes. My version is shorter: Today you will meet a lot of fuckwits and even more rules they have made up.

  218. rickw

    The federal government will no longer require individual states to have opened their internal borders before allowing international students to return to Australia,

    Cirque De Fuckwit rolls on!!!

  219. johanna

    Good point, stack, whatever happened to Lawyer X?

    That humming sound you hear is the shredders working overtime at VicPol.

  220. Bruce of Newcastle

    I love how Bolton used to be the uber-rightwing warmonger and proof Trump was literally Hilter for hiring him, but now is on speed dial with the MSM.

  221. Infidel Tiger King

    The economic Armageddon that is going to hit at the end of the year is going to be spectacular.

    We better pray we don’t get Bidened on top of it.

  222. Geriatric Mayfly

    I love how Bolton used to be the uber-rightwing warmonger and proof Trump was literally Hilter for hiring him, but now is on speed dial with the MSM.

    Reviled, once upon a time, as it was thought he might take the UN to the cleaners. The chance to do so eluded him.

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