Open Forum: July 11, 2020

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  1. Nick

    Jeez. Casbolt kicks one straight through from 54m.

  2. Tel

    … if I wanted to arrange a killer pandemic that would destroy nations I would prefer to use something that would actually kill people,

    You are thinking of those old fashioned nations where people have a bit of fight in them before they give in.

    These days, something that looks scary does the job just fine. Also, CCP-19 does kill old men quite readily and those are the only people likely to have an issue with the new regime that is coming to replace them.

  3. JC

    Nurse Betty, I don’t care if you agree with me. Your opinion -either to me or really when it comes down to it, most people here, is worthless.

  4. Jizz Laine Max Swell was arrested 9 days ago and she hasn’t split the beans.

    She’s seeking bail and denies the charges.

    No deals, no poppets in tunnels.

    That’s actually a good thing.

    The Daily Wail did have “an anonymous ex friend of Max Swell and Ypstine and gem thief with a cool name” who reckons who has been shown tapes of various (un-named) world leaders having “relations with miners”, even 3, 4 5+ at a time.

    *Bowdlerised a lot until I realised gem was denoted as a desert person, oy vey.

  5. Tintarella di Luna

    It’s cool – I also started a course of prednisone. Today I was able to – gently- walk to the bathroom instead of using the office chair with wheels.
    Jaysus. That was nasty. Felt like an infusion of molten lead into the top of the foot.

    Winston great to hear that there’s even the slightest improvement — my non-verbal disabled son gets gout, he can’t tell me when a bout is coming on, usually in one or other ankle and I only know when he starts limping and then it’s too late because it just gets worse, he can’t put any weight on his …. you know only too well, I won’t go on, suffice to say it’s a struggle. He’s hasn’t had a bout for a while … now I’ve jinxed myself for sure. Anyhoo I know you’ll keep on keepin’ on.

  6. mh

    I am in fact MarkL. And Mk50. Both of those people at the same time, I am. I’m also Anne and Iampeter and Ed Case and Sal and Rockdoctor.

    And Spartacus. I’m especially Spartacus. Oh – and Delcon, who reminds me of you.

    Are you Grigs?

  7. IIRC MarkL was an ex Navy Lt. and KD was in the infantry, even a selective unit.

  8. Calli:

    The Bride forgot to pop on her wedding dress in all the hurly burly.
    It happens.

    Snicker…
    Yes, but remember “Tacky is as tacky does”.

  9. MemoryFault

    … if I wanted to arrange a killer pandemic that would destroy nations I would prefer to use something that would actually kill people,

    Quite so.

    WWI and WWII were fought with personal weapons specifically designed to kill. Today we fight with personal weapons designed to maximise bodily damage without necessarily killing. There is a very good military reason for that, and it has nothing to do with being humanitarian.

    Today there is a three cornered contest going on for military/trade allegiance. It is between the globalists, led by the Deep State, China, with its “belt and road” philosophy, and Trump, who appears to be trying to extricate the USA from the whole thing.

    Killing too many people would be very counterproductive. And why bother, when in a country like Australia you only need to unload about twenty cases from a cruise ship, to give the scum in charge an excuse to impose what amounts to totalitarian control?

    And if one State like Victoriastan for instance, refuses to get on the “right” side – in this case the globalists, because they have already been bought and paid for by the Chinese, then just keep hitting them with variants of the virus until they capitulate.

  10. IIRC MarkL was an ex Navy Lt. and KD was in the infantry, even a selective unit.

    Commander, sans “Lt”
    Not ex. Still in.

  11. Some people confuse creepy or awkward/inappropriate behaviour with poppets in tunnels.

    A reader’s comment in the Daily Celebrity T&A Journal:

    nicole, London, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

    In the 1990s they believed the behaviour was normal – I was in my 20s at that time and an (unnamed) prestigious London doctor stroked my arm saying “I won’t see you again” when I said I was not coming back. I was appalled but wondered why I had not seen the signs before.

  12. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Black Ball at 8:47 pm:

    “Joanne Lee’s is coming across as a nasty piece of work.”

    It was showing in another wing of the grand estate here but I was preoccupied trying to read what Catallaxy had offered over the last couple of days and missed what was being said. The events years ago did not take my attention but I do recall Joanne Lees was pilloried, as was Lindy Chamberlain, for not sobbing on cue for the media.

    Does this have legs Black Ball or is it just chancers with an eye for a quid?

  13. Knuckle Dragger

    I wasn’t in the NT when the Falconio investigation was on, but geez.

    There is a very strong rumour that the alleged ‘lead investigator’ who made a handy (and potentially undeserved) reputation had a very public position that she wanted every single detective in the NT to be a chick.

    This obviously fell on its arse, and she left after being offered some obscenely-paid gummint job as a children’s advocate or something.

    Naturally, she has the appearance of something I drew left-handed, and she’s also prominent in local AFLW circles.

  14. Tel

    Cops now refuse to sign the attendance register.

    You might hire a backpacker wearing medical paraphernalia to tell them it’s all waaaayyy too dangerous to allow them entry. A clipboard might be of assistance. Extra points for hiring a suitable minority group willing to go the racism card is the cops give the slightest lip. Extra, extra points for being able to cite random government regulation and mention the new AI facial recognition system that was recently installed to satisfy the health authorities.

    I’m not giving instruction on how to run a business … but with a few drinks in me I’m pretty sure I can start a fight in a pub 😉

  15. JC

    Dot

    Adonis was many things. He once said he couldn’t say what he did because it was hush hush and wasn’t allowed to publicize it. Obviously, he was Australia’s answer to James bond, who incidentally was also a naval Lt and interestingly whose career then tracked to the secret service.
    Both James and our Marcus were also ladies men. Even at the ripe age of 60, Adonis made young female hearts flutter as he told us.

    Incredible how Bond and out very own Marcus Adonis were so remarkably similar. I wonder if they met?

  16. Nick

    Naturally, she has the appearance of something I drew left-handed, and she’s also prominent in local AFLW circles.

    I’m getting a lezzo vibe here.

  17. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Knuckle Dragger at 9:01 pm:

    “I wasn’t in the NT … [one does not care where you where then – one cares about the King’s English] … and she’s also prominent in local AFLW circles.”

    The only correct reference is AWFL – AWFL.

  18. johanna

    It is true that lawfare (thank you, politicians) is much more effective than twittermobs will ever be.

    Just because the Right is utterly ineffectual at exerting influence on corporations is no reason to behave like sore losers and demand draconian measures by the State. The same State that allows the lawfare, mind. Good luck with that strategy, which is also inherently obnoxious and will be used against you.

    It is notable that all the focus on Da Virus (cue spooky music) has saved our loathsome political class from scrutiny on every other front – what a boon for them! Dickhead Dan is sitting on half a dozen unexploded bombs in his State, but nobody cares because the smokescreen is on full blast.

  19. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘one does not care where you where then – one cares about the King’s English’

    ‘where you where’

    What was that about the English Mick?

  20. You might hire a backpacker wearing medical paraphernalia to tell them it’s all waaaayyy too dangerous to allow them entry. A clipboard might be of assistance. Extra points for hiring a suitable minority group

    The cops are more clued up than that.
    Covid-breach fines aren’t being issued by Constables winging it on the spot, they’re well briefed.

    This is the same force that busted a series of country pubs (really country, not Corryong type) in the Maranoa a couple of weeks ago, for having too many people on the premises & not enforcing social distancing.
    While a few days later they stood in Brisbane like limp dicks & watched (yet another) BLM march of thousands happen on their patch.

    I’ve reached a point where I no longer give a flying farqc about some things.
    Telling low IQ cops what I think of them is one of those things.

    They always have the option to act like adults.
    Somewhere there’s a bunker full of Sgt’s who’ve done hard yards, cringing in shame at some of what their wymmenses & assertive beta male gradutes in uniform get up to.

  21. Tintarella di Luna

    S

    harri Markson is living proof that beauty, albeit in her case trowelled on, is only skin deep.

    But, as Dorothy Parker famously observed, ugly goes clean to the bone.. Trigger warning!

  22. Well Mick one of the blokes investigating it is ex defence lawyer Andrew Fraser. Who got put in the clink himself for drugs I believe. But Lees in interviews with cops used lots of ambiguity, ‘I don’t know’, ‘could have’ etc.
    All signs at the moment, from my point of view, could well mean a retrial for Murdoch. Very compelling to watch.

  23. Knuckle Dragger

    Just had a quick peek at my back in the full-length mirror.

    Nope. No target drawn on it.

    Bloody hell.

  24. mh

    Cat poll: Joanne Lees guilty?

    A yes from me ✅

  25. Knuckle Dragger

    mh;

    Guilty of what?

  26. mh

    Oh yeah, guilty of killing Falconio, or at least organising it.

  27. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Knuckle Dragger at 9:08 pm:

    ” ‘one does not care where you where then – one cares about the King’s English’

    ‘where you where’

    What was that about the English Mick?”

    Eh? Eh? Hearing’s a bit off tonight – what was that? … [mumble, mumble, bastard, mumble]

  28. calli

    Is Arky crook? Did he drop the engine block on his foot again?

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    I can’t type an emoji thumbs up from a laptop Mick (I believe), so:

    *thumbs up*

  30. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Black Ball at 9:10 pm:

    “… Very compelling to watch.”

    I appreciate the response, thanks mate. I’ll pay a bit more attention to it then.

  31. Knuckle Dragger:

    Burn that bastard thing out of your hoof by inhaling Wild Turkey. A cure-all.

    I haven’t had a drink of alcohol for nearly five months – just seem to have lost the desire to drink beer. I’m sure it’s a passing phase.
    Odd.
    Inexplicable.
    Scary as shit.
    Might open a bottle of port I bought for emergencies.

  32. Tel, the checklist I’ve downloaded from a Qld Govt website is a dozen pages or so, chockers with word salad in officialese – even I can’t follow parts of it.

    Printed carefully in colour, had the Qld coat of arms on every page, is obviously a Govt written form, & is laminated.
    Cops gaze at it & go glassy-eyed, but they’re never going to challenge it, coz they don’t understand it & they’ll be sufficiently self-aware to know they’re on a loser to challenge something written by Duchess Anastasia herself.

    If they don’t understand it, they’re unable to identify a breach.
    So they stick to reading the sign-in register to ensure everybody has filled in each column.
    Y’know, something they can understand.

  33. Tim Neilson

    Might open a bottle of port I bought for emergencies.

    Drinking port to alleviate gout seems a bit counterintuitive.

  34. Cat poll: Joanne Lees guilty?

    Anecdotally, backpackers who’d been in the same hostel in Sydney reported she was a “cold-blooded hardcase” & was playing a very boppy game of musical beds.

  35. Tel

    Just because the Right is utterly ineffectual at exerting influence on corporations is no reason to behave like sore losers and demand draconian measures by the State.

    The state is in business primarily to protect the big corporations from competition, and those big corps are primarily in business to do the bidding of the state. Neither of them need any help from me. However, armed with this knowledge you should understand that everything you see in terms of protest, that is sanctioned by the state has also quietly been sanctioned by the corporate. They have no intention of putting themselves at risk. Here’s a hint: it was mostly small business destroyed by recent rioting.

  36. NoFixedAddress

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3511186, posted on July 12, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    ……..

    So yeah, going pretty much as expected.

    Business as usual then.

    All the best to you and good to hear your not letting them get you down.

    re Corryong – It only dawned on me after checking out the website but it was nearly 20 years ago!
    Probably the Corryong Courthouse Hotel (they are on Facebook I saw) is where the locals hang out.

  37. Knuckle Dragger

    Lees.

    I know a bloke who was involved in the investigation. He swears black and blue she was in on it somehow, and had Murdoch kill Falconio for cash, paid for by her new Sydney boyfriend – and that Murdoch wasn’t clever enough to avoid being caught.

    I also know that at that time, and to a lesser degree now NT detectives just do not have the exposure to long, protracted jobs of this type. By necessity they’re used to walk-up starts where you get a result inside a week, and if they don’t their clueless brass-laden bosses start putting their incompetent little fingers in the pie and ruin the whole fucking thing.

    That said, in the last eight years or so there’s been some outstanding detective work done on a multitude of jobs, including several murders that won’t make the papers.

    DNA transfer is a thing, and any detective worth his salt will tell you he’d rather have a single fingerprint than oodles of DNA to work with. The material off the cable ties and on Lees’ shirt was taken twenty-odd years ago and to my knowledge hasn’t been tested. If they did that, and I don’t know what the obstacles are to doing it – it may shed some light one way or another.

  38. First episode of I think 4 Mick so again next week.

  39. JC

    Here’s a hint: it was mostly small business destroyed by recent rioting.

    That’s true to some extent, however big business wasn’t spared. Think Nike stores, Apple and Microsoft.
    As a result of the theft, Microsoft is now closing its retail stores and going 100% online. Also, a large number of those stores in NYC were store front operations for bigger firms.

  40. Crossie

    Xenophon uncloaks and we find out that he is the Australian spokesman for Huawei. This tells me everything about that man’s morals and ethics. He will take anybody’s money. Jobs must really be thin on the ground in SA.

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “Anecdotally, backpackers who’d been in the same hostel in Sydney reported she was a “cold-blooded hardcase” & was playing a very boppy game of musical beds.”:

    Ah yes….anecdotes….or gossip.

    I remember Lindy Chamberlain being smeared as a cold-blooded, cold-hearted, distant, aloof bitch etc. etc. etc.

    I also remember, very recently, Cardinal George Pell being smeared as cold-hearted, distant, aloof etc. etc. etc.

    Oh and Andrew Fraser has zero credibility.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    Lees II.

    Attention whores like Lees’ stepdaddy sticking their heads up after 20 years – well, their credibility has to be questioned. Like my ex-in-laws, who happened to be Grey Nomadding around Alice at the time, and when they came back swore to me they saw an orange Kombi with three people in it.

    This was at the same time the media were jazzing all over it. When I asked why they didn’t tell anyone despite the attention it was receiving, it was ‘oh, you know…….’ Yeah righto Marion, you conversation-piece-fabricating joyless harridan.

    What I do know is that anyone who makes their mind up on the strength of an edited TV program designed to provoke commentary, and perhaps a desired outcome one way or the other had best take into account the counterpoints.

    I have no idea whether she’s guilty or not. Frankly, with information at hand (all on public record) I could make a case both ways.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    All signs at the moment, from my point of view, could well mean a retrial for Murdoch. Very compelling to watch.

    Hasn’t he had two appeals chucked out, already?

  44. P

    Oh yeah, guilty of killing Falconio, or at least organising it.

    Is Peter Falconio dead?

    Organizing what? His death or his disappearance.

  45. re Corryong – It only dawned on me after checking out the website but it was nearly 20 years ago!

    Understandable.
    35 years ago one my boss sent me over to Canobie station on an errand, one of the Darcys from Mallapunyah was cooking, she dished up corned beef & white sauce, a coveted meal at the best of times, even so this one was a standout that I remember to this day.
    There was three of us sent over, we talked about the meal for days.

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    Shit.

    ‘The material off the cable ties and on Lees’ shirt was taken twenty-odd years ago and to my knowledge hasn’t been tested.’

    Hasn’t been tested AGAIN. Re-tested with current tech, blah yada rah blah.

  47. Ah yes Zulu. But one was an application for his case to be heard by the High Court but that was denied if I read that correctly.

  48. “Anecdotally, backpackers who’d been in the same hostel in Sydney reported she was a “cold-blooded hardcase” & was playing a very boppy game of musical beds.”:

    Ah yes….anecdotes….or gossip.

    Hence it was posted without editorial comment.

    I remember Lindy Chamberlain being smeared as a cold-blooded, cold-hearted, distant, aloof bitch etc. etc. etc.

    Nobody who knew Lindy before the event was saying that.
    Big difference. Neither was Lindy rooting around at the time like a dunny door.

  49. Tel

    If they don’t understand it, they’re unable to identify a breach.
    So they stick to reading the sign-in register to ensure everybody has filled in each column.
    Y’know, something they can understand.

    I’m not expecting anyone to understand it, but sounding convincing is what matters.

    That’s why it’s important to be so earnest and insist every copper also signs the register, or cannot be allowed in. It’s bullshit, but it’s THEIR bullshit and they know it.

  50. Cassie of Sydney

    “Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3511242, posted on July 12, 2020 at 9:32 pm
    All signs at the moment, from my point of view, could well mean a retrial for Murdoch. Very compelling to watch.

    Hasn’t he had two appeals chucked out, already?

    Yes. Oh and Andrew Fraser back in 2010 or 2011 asserted that Peter Falconia was still alive.

  51. Oh come on

    Maureen Dowd and the NYT are trying their darnedest to reassure the base that Biden isn’t a disastrous candidate.

    Yeah, Maureen. Trump’s the one with the problem. Whatever gets you to sleep at night.

  52. Tel

    As a result of the theft, Microsoft is now closing its retail stores and going 100% online.

    They sell software! Their Microsoft Store comes pre-installed in most laptops purchased by consumers and business.

    You think if someone burns 1000 DVD’s containing Microsoft Windows updates that it actually costs Microsoft the RRP of those? Sheesh!

  53. mh

    Cassie, I’m putting you down as a No ❌

  54. notafan

    Well said Mark of Canberra and many other places.

    I saw it on a TV show designed to make money is hardly the solid foundation I’d be hanging my hat on, if I had one.

  55. That’s why it’s important to be so earnest and insist every copper also signs the register, or cannot be allowed in. It’s bullshit, but it’s THEIR bullshit and they know it.

    Agreed Tel.
    However……………………Not everybody has to sign in to the contact register.

    The following do not have to sign the register:
    Anyone who pops in just to buy a packet of smokes, to buy takeaway alcohol, or who is delivering something – even if it takes an hour to unpack & everybody pitches in to help.
    …. and it would seem, cops.

    I’ve saved every bit of CCTV of the cops physically refusing to sign in.
    The “Register monitor” is a bright & alert-as-a-Kelpie girl of Eight years.
    She sits at a desk all day & presents the register to everybody.

    There’s some first class body language put out by the wymmenses cops & the possibly-tranny cops when refusing to sign.
    First class. in colour.

  56. MatrixTransform

    thumbs up from a laptop

    hold the Windows key and then press the full stop
    🥂

  57. mh

    Ian Miles Cheong
    @stillgray
    I guess stabbing people on the train in De Blasio’s New York City is now the new normal.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1282038585118478337?s=20

  58. Cassie of Sydney

    “Neither was Lindy rooting around at the time like a dunny door.”

    Geez…you seem to have inside knowledge.

  59. Oh come on

    I know a bloke who was involved in the investigation. He swears black and blue she was in on it somehow

    All due respect for this bloke and his black and blue swearing, but…sandgropers know from bitter and repeated experience that a copper’s hunch isn’t worth a pinch of shit.

  60. Cassie of Sydney

    “mh
    #3511253, posted on July 12, 2020 at 9:42 pm
    Cassie, I’m putting you down as a No ❌”

    Correct assumption.

  61. “Neither was Lindy rooting around at the time like a dunny door.”

    Geez…you seem to have inside knowledge.

    I’m prepared to be proved wrong on that.
    If you know something, don’t be afraid to share it. 😉😉😉

  62. JC

    Tel

    Microsoft

    The stores sell computers etc.

  63. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr at 9:21 pm:

    ” Cat poll: Joanne Lees guilty?

    Anecdotally, backpackers who’d been in the same hostel in Sydney reported she was a “cold-blooded hardcase” & was playing a very boppy game of musical beds.”

    Aha! I may have corroboree evidence.

    Having just said I wasn’t much committed back then or now (in this weekend’s appeal proceedings here) I am obliged to offer as a friend of the Catallaxy Court a recollection of reports that Joanne Lees was bonking some fella in Sydney before and after meeting Falconio the dead ‘un, and communicating with the same bloke (waiting for her) in Sydney whilst traveling through the NT with Peter Falconio.

    Why would I remember that from twenty odd years ago? Funny, eh.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    All due respect for this bloke and his black and blue swearing, but…sandgropers know from bitter and repeated experience that a copper’s hunch isn’t worth a pinch of shit.

    Darryl Beamish? Andrew Mallard? John Button? The Mickleberg brothers?

  65. Tel

    I’ve saved every bit of CCTV of the cops physically refusing to sign in.

    Good work, think of ways to get the most out of that.

    I’m not a Facebook user but I’m told that when you upload an image, it will automatically detect faces in that image and identify them. I wonder if that’s real??? Once you have the name I presume you can delete the image again. Just errrrr curious as to how it works.

    Small town, you probably know everyone at a glance to begin with. I just poke around asking questions to see what comes up, that’s all.

  66. max

    In court Lees implied that she and boyfriend Nick had a fairly fleeting relationship and hinted that they both saw it as a momentary indiscretion.
    Phone records showed they stayed in contact with up to 7 or 8 calls a day. Just before the disappearance there were 28 calls in one day.
    The cops needed to wrap it up because everyone was worried about its effect on NT tourism.

  67. Tel, I know who the cops are, if that’s what you mean, they’re not strangers.
    (except the flying squad arseholes if they come to town, they’ll be strangers)

  68. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Well said Mark of Canberra and many other places.’

    Barry’s going to be totes devo when he finds out I’m a 60 year old Navy bloke.

    Or something.

  69. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Black Ball at 9:26 pm:

    “First episode of I think 4 Mick so again next week.”

    Ta.

  70. Tel

    Hmmm, seems that if you already know them, and you also have CCTV recordings of exactly when they came and when they left … then to all intents and purposes they have signed the register.

    If you feel like being cheeky then put the times and details into a spreadsheet and print out a little side register for cops to also have sitting on the desk … for completeness.

  71. …they stayed in contact with up to 7 or 8 calls a day. Just before the disappearance there were 28 calls in one day.

    In the lead-up to Falconio’s disappearance his girlfriend’s clandestine phone calls to her other boyfriend multiplied in number by Four?

    No need for anybody’s antennae to vibrate over this, there’s sure to be an innocent & plausible explanation.

  72. notafan

    Stabbing men in their seventies for no reason.
    Where was the outrageous outrage?

    black stabbers matter was arrested

  73. mh

    Legalise Sedition
    #3511274, posted on July 12, 2020 at 10:04 pm
    max

    That’s fairly suspicious.

    Damn straight.

  74. Oh come on

    I love all of these ROBERT MUELLER BREAKS HIS SILENCE TO CONDEMN TRUMP headlines.

    Mueller also expressed optimism that the Lindbergh baby would soon be returned, rejoiced that Everest had finally been conquered whilst swiping at a passing orderly and then attempting to drape his heavily soiled pyjamas over a large potted fern.

  75. Hmmm, seems that if you already know them, and you also have CCTV recordings of exactly when they came and when they left … then to all intents and purposes they have signed the register.

    While somebody who comes in to buy a packet of smokes can linger & mingle while he waits & sign nothing…
    … if anybody enters with any other intent, they must sign the register before they do anything.
    If a person signing does not write their home address, regardless of how well known they are in town, the coppers will breach me for it.

    $6792

  76. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From mh at 9:42 pm:

    “Cassie, I’m putting you down as a No ❌ “

    This is getting funnier and funnier – loving it! All the local Jack McCoy’s are coming forth (including Mick) and I say there will be choosing of sides, keeping score and blood letting here before next weekend’s episode. 😄

  77. notafan

    KD

    Barry will, more than a monkey brain can manage (not the only one)

    Rather than an old St Patrick’s boy now shaving 50 who spent his married life in Romsey before running off in a huff to Tennant Creek and ending up in Darwin?

  78. MemoryFault

    I’ve saved every bit of CCTV of the cops physically refusing to sign in.

    Next time tell them you want to bury the hatchet and start afresh with them.
    Offer them a free meal as a peace offering.
    When they accept – and they will, smile gracefully, push the register forward, and in your most apologetic voice explain that they will have to sign in – “it’s the law, you know”.

    Chances are they will.

  79. rafiki

    Salvatore:
    The saying is “banging like an outside dunny-door in a gale”.

    Knuckles: The theory that Murdoch was paid by Lees is, to say the least, highly improbable. Surely he could not have seen that evidence of this conspiracy might have been a basis for a plead deal?

  80. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘an old St Patrick’s boy’

    I’m not old.

  81. MF, things have changed quite a bit with QPlod, they’re not like they were back in the days when Colonel Samuel Cody brought his flying circus to town & flew through the McInhenny’s barn.

  82. notafan

    You keep telling yourself that dearie.

  83. Top Ender

    And of Bradley Murdoch knew ANYTHING he could use to get a release, or a re-trial, he’d have used it by now.

    He’s 62, and he isn’t going anywhere but backwards and forwards between his cell and the prison kitchens. Apparently he’s a dab hand at making desserts.

    He was diagnosed with cancer last year, so if there was anything he knew that he could use to his advantage, he’d certainly speak up.

  84. The theory that Murdoch was paid by Lees is, to say the least, highly improbable.

    Quite so.
    120% of backpackers are genteel middle class, they wouldn’t be capable of locating, never mind gaining the trust of an itinerant shady type such as Murdoch, such that he’d carry out a murder on the say-so of some peaches & cream complexioned Penelope-on-a-gap-year.

  85. MatrixTransform

    Offer them a free meal as a peace offering.

    do not offer power trippers anything or, you lose.

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    And on cue:

    ‘The theory that Murdoch was paid by Lees is, to say the least, highly improbable. Surely he could not have seen that evidence of this conspiracy might have been a basis for a plead deal?’

    Which is not what I said. Which was:

    ‘He swears black and blue she was in on it somehow, and had Murdoch kill Falconio for cash, paid for by her new Sydney boyfriend’

    You are, however, correct about one thing. It is a theory. As I wrote, it’s not my theory, and obviously not enough of a theory to make it to trial.

    A ‘plead deal’? Really? For murder? IF this theory had legs, and IF this theory was true, the only deal on the table would be the Sydney boyfriend getting the blister for moida as well.

    And, by the way:

    ‘Surely he could not have seen that evidence of this conspiracy’

    Bradley Murdoch is lifelong thug, chick-basher and illiterate drug dealer who shovelled, over time, tonnes of choof to the Pilbara blackfellas via the Tanami road, which is a piece of shit travelled only by necessity. He couldn’t spell conspiracy, let alone see one, let alone work out how to (wrongly) hammer it into a ‘plead deal’.

  87. MemoryFault

    MF, things have changed quite a bit with QPlod

    What!
    A copper, from anywhere, turn down a sincerely offered, no strings attached, decent meal in a halfway decent eating establishment?

    Yeah, right.
    Next you’ll be telling us Monty doesn’t like donuts.

  88. Snoopy

    ROBERT MUELLER BREAKS HIS SILENCE TO CONDEMN TRUMP

    All without saying a word.

  89. Knuckle Dragger:

    Just had a quick peek at my back in the full-length mirror.
    Nope. No target drawn on it.
    Bloody hell.

    That’s because it’s on ya shirt, idiot.

  90. MatrixTransform

    That’s because it’s on ya shirt

    He’s trying to find the laser dot … typical Cat

  91. jupes

    Mueller also expressed optimism that the Lindbergh baby would soon be returned, rejoiced that Everest had finally been conquered whilst swiping at a passing orderly and then attempting to drape his heavily soiled pyjamas over a large potted fern.

    Mueller would make the perfect vice-pres for Biden.

  92. do not offer power trippers anything or, you lose.

    Very correct.
    MF is sorely out of date with his understanding of QPlod.

    QPlod abrogated their role long ago.

    It’s a formal part of my staff induction & has been for years, Police are the greatest threat to the business & all the reasons why they’re to be regarded as such.
    Daylight 2nd & 3rd…. after that various other petty bureaucratic parking meter inspector types.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bradley Murdoch is lifelong thug, chick-basher and illiterate drug dealer who shovelled, over time, tonnes of choof to the Pilbara blackfellas via the Tanami road, which is a piece of shit travelled only by necessity.

    They are the more sterling aspects of his character.

  94. Tim Neilson:

    Drinking port to alleviate gout seems a bit counterintuitive.

    Shit.
    I forgot all about that aspect!

  95. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr at 10:18 pm:

    ” The theory that Murdoch was paid by Lees is, to say the least, highly improbable.

    Quite so.
    120% of backpackers are genteel middle class … of some peaches & cream complexioned Penelope-on-a-gap-year.

    Penelope? On a gap yah?

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    Winston;

    I was admiring my lats.

    /Whoever that was

  97. jupes

    Wow. Carlton in the top 8!

  98. MatrixTransform

    do not offer power trippers anything or, you lose

    very likely, they are already at the end of a long plank

    it is they that need to watch their next step.

  99. A copper, from anywhere, turn down a sincerely offered, no strings attached, decent meal in a halfway decent eating establishment?

    Yeah, right.

    Serious question MF:
    Last time you were involved in an interaction between a business & QPlod, was it when they used a hand-cranked bell on the hood of the car as a siren?

    Coz much has changed since.
    Even things that happened in 1990 have pretty much faded from QPlod’s institutional memory, never mind the days you’re talking about.

  100. Snoopy

    Drinking port to alleviate gout seems a bit counterintuitive.

    I don’t know about port, but a bottle of red can work.

  101. MemoryFault

    So, modern day coppers can’t be sweetened with a free meal.
    That is sad to hear. The Old Ways were best.

    Back to my movie.

  102. MatrixTransform

    or … as I’ve said in business meetings before today.

    stop waving that fucking stick you ponce … and hit me … or fuck off

  103. Mick Gold Coast QLD #3511302, posted on July 12, 2020 at 10:29 pm

    Lol, thanks Mick. I’ll watch that later, looks good. 🤣🤣🤣

  104. MemoryFault

    I forgot all about that aspect!

    So it’s working then, Winston?
    Drink a bit more and you’ll forget why you’re drinking.

  105. Top Ender

    Well, Mrs TE is determined to watch Filthy Rich, about Jeffrey Epstein.

    Episode 1 – very drawn out; lots of overlay vision. Jeff is very very rich and a creep.

  106. So, modern day coppers can’t be sweetened with a free meal.

    MF, you may be seriously out of date with modern Australian police culture.

    Besides, if a copper was actually offered a free meal they’d have to decline coz her husband would almost certainly be at home preparing a lovely meal of marinated Terrapin, to be preceded by a Burrata wrapped in thin slices of cured Llama cheeks, followed by Lark’s tongue in aspic.
    (& if her husband isn’t cooking that, it’ll be because she doesn’t have one & it is her wife doing the cooking)

  107. Tim Neilson

    I don’t know about port, but a bottle of red can work.

    Certainly worth a try.
    And if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

  108. rafiki

    Knuckles
    I did not say that it was your theory.
    “Plead” deal was a typo mistake.
    A plea of guilty along with his giving evidence of his being paid by the Sydney boyfriend would have been a basis for a reduced sentence. Did not Rocky Gatellari (spelling?) do something similar?

    BTW, your description of an ex-rellie as a “conversation-piece-fabricating joyless harridan” was pretty tame given the high standard you set when describing your ex mother-in-law. ‘Tis a pity that can’t be re-posted.

  109. MatrixTransform

    Once, a particular multinational company that used to grace us with access to their product line started telling us where we could and couldnt work.
    I referred them to the Competition and Consumer Act and told them the stick story
    they hit me.
    So I hit back.
    Targeted their jobs.
    Wrote a program to pull apart their backup files and automatically rebuild a retrofit option with our new product. …from their main competitor

    do not try to pick up a cat by the tail

  110. Steve trickler

    I wouldn’t move if performed in front of me.



  111. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘So, modern day coppers can’t be sweetened with a free meal.’

    Nothing’s for free. And that used to be okay too. Sometimes. Apparently.

    Anyone that thinks it is, is either in the wrong line of work or soon to be out of that line of work.

    You would think.

  112. rickw

    I’ve saved every bit of CCTV of the cops physically refusing to sign in.

    Why don’t you YouTube it? Stuff them.

  113. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘when describing your ex mother-in-law’

    That teacher of succubi is fading from memory, rafiki.

    My fear is that like Pennywise in It, she’ll return in a different guise every few decades.

  114. Mitch M.

    Tel
    #3511267, posted on July 12, 2020 at 9:54 pm
    I’ve saved every bit of CCTV of the cops physically refusing to sign in.

    Good work, think of ways to get the most out of that.

    I’m not a Facebook user but I’m told that when you upload an image, it will automatically detect faces in that image and identify them. I wonder if that’s real???

    I don’t know about that but something inexplicable is going on with FB. I completely deleted my account this time last year, or so I thought. Two weeks ago I registered again and FB is suggesting friends that were prior FBFs or local people I had some dealings with but were not FBFs. No specific pattern to it but it makes me suspicious about how much data mining those algorithms perform.

  115. mh

    Andrew Rule has this paywalled at the Hun

    NEW DOCUMENTARY RAISES OLD QUESTIONS ABOUT FALCONIO
    The mysterious outback murder of Peter Falconio mystified audiences across two nations, but questions and inconsistencies have persisted long after the man convicted of his killing was put behind bars.

  116. Tim,et al:

    Certainly worth a try.
    And if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

    Nah – they’re both full of purines – uric acid which is what the uric acid crystals form from.
    Good thing I didn’t start the bottle – just took the lid off and inserted a straw. *

    *Note to self – get long straws in future.

  117. MatrixTransform

    Gotta zip, guys.

    have a glass of water on the way back

  118. Mitch M.

    Winston Smith
    #3511325, posted on July 12, 2020 at 10:58 pm
    Tim,et al:

    Certainly worth a try.
    And if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

    Nah – they’re both full of purines – uric acid which is what the uric acid crystals form from.
    Good thing I didn’t start the bottle – just took the lid off and inserted a straw. *

    *Note to self – get long straws in future.

    Have you tried Krystexxa? Should be available in Aus by now. FDA approved 2015.

    https://www.rxlist.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=119722

  119. Mark A

    Anyone knows more about this?
    Can’t find a lot myself at the mo.

  120. MatrixTransform

    Oh, and did I mention that one of their chief execs was intrinsically linked with providing our IP to chinese copy-cats.

    …and of course, they did attempt to organise a ‘cartel’ arrangement

    exactly who, is in whose pocket.

    play nice … stick to the rules

  121. Mark A

    FaceBook keeps your IP address and all email addresses you ever used.
    IP is the one you have to care about if resigning as it’s connected to every page you have shown interest in.
    Those records will expire but I’m not sure about the time-frame.

  122. MatrixTransform

    Aquarius Engine

    I see no heat efficiencies quoted anywhere.
    maybe ok because power to weight ratios
    but otherwise just another engine

    electric vehicle efficiency sounds great until you look at the whole energy chain

    nuclear + plus tesla = the only thing that makes sense

    ( as long as you believe that CO2 isnt plant food )

  123. Mark A

    Top Ender
    #3511335, posted on July 12, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    Aquarius Engine article

    Thanks, TE will find all I can but not a lot of useful info available.
    Power to weight as Matrix mentioned is important but has little to do with efficiency and clean running.

    Hope it’s not going the way of the Saritch engine.

  124. MatrixTransform

    Flog that piston like it’s a YZ125

  125. MatrixTransform

    When I look at that pic of the engine the first thing I notice is the lack of cooling.
    Those two black caps look suspiciously like a good place to connect some pipes.

  126. MatrixTransform

    or…most efficient engine evah!

  127. Bruce in WA

    On gout …

    I was prescribed colchicine, 0.5mg, one tablet twice a day.

    Chemist filling the prescription pulled me aside and said, “BS. First sign, take two tablets; then take a third one hour later. It will give you the shits, but it will work.”

    He was right on both counts. For me, port can exacerbate it.

  128. Once upon a time I advertised a job online & had tonnes of Filipino white-collar girls respond.
    I replied several of them from an email address I hadn’t used.
    A bit of email exchange, discussion of the job, what can you do for me, what can I do for you, blah blah blah.
    …. & there it petered out.
    The email address went back into hibernation.

    A coupla few years later when setting up a Facebook account for the business that same email address was dragged out blinking into the sunlight & used to open the Facebook account.

    Immediately upon creating the Facebook account, there were a dozen or more “friend” requests from various Filipino ladies who’d applied for the job.

    They’d obviously done a Facebook search on the email address I’d used (at the time you could search FB for an email address)

    Several more friend “suggestions” immediately appeared, all people with whom I’d exchanged job application emails.

    Where it becomes downright creepy is when I got friend “suggestions” of people, say a broker at HTW or something from 10 years or more ago.
    This when I’m using a One year old laptop, with no email addresses in it that I’d used that long ago.

    Lots of people I’d hoped never to hear of again started popping up.
    Worst part, if I was seeing the home life of obscure & antagonistic business contacts from a bygone era – well, they could see me.

    This circumstance meant I didn’t ever put anything much on Facebook.

  129. Mark A

    BTW I noticed some posts referring/connecting? MK50 & KD?

    What was that about?
    Far be it for me to get entangled, just interested, is all.

  130. BTW I noticed some posts referring/connecting? MK50 & KD?

    Some dickhead has the delusion that KD be Mk50 under a new name.

  131. Bruce in WA

    For Sandgropers …

    Went to Fairbrossen winery in Carmel today for a platter lunch and a glass of wine. Highly recommended.

    Also tried their “Superavi” wine; a red made from an 8000-year-old grape variety from Georgia (Eurasia, not USA). Hugely rich and fruity. Finished up buying half a case.

  132. MemoryFault

    Thanks for the lame pics again, Mark.

  133. Mark A

    This circumstance meant I didn’t ever put anything much on Facebook.

    And that is the long and short of it.

    If you want to keep private there are ways to do it, FB does not make it easy but there is way.
    Google it.

    I personally have no problem with FB whatsoever, wouldn’t touch twitter but.

  134. MemoryFault

    There was a story going with this picture but I forgot what it was, sorry.

    That’s okay, Mark.
    Could happen to anyone.
    We forgive you.

  135. There was a story going with this picture but I forgot what it was, sorry.

    That was a particularly good one.

  136. Mark A

    No probs MF, letting off some steam after online work.
    Getting a bit, nay, a lot jittery here with travel restrictions, and I want to go a bit further then Howlong NSW.

    Starting to lose some business.

  137. MatrixTransform

    fucking brushies
    got the hose attachment on jet stream
    they’ll get the message

  138. Bruce in WA

    Those lame pics were particularly lame tonight, Mark.

    Wonderful; thank you.

  139. MemoryFault

    It’s okay Mark. I was being sarcastic.
    That young lady could make a man forget his own mother.

    Sorry to hear your business blues.
    Now would be a good time to consider retirement, if you’re anywhere near a position to.

  140. Bruce in WA

    Getting a bit, nay, a lot jittery here with travel restrictions, and I want to go a bit further then Howlong NSW.

    Must admit I had some sympathy for you poor buggers today when we went, as I said, into the Perth foothills for brunch. Then we decided to just “poke around” a bit further out and look at some towns we hadn’t been to in a long time and … rolled into the garage at home 400 km after we left that morning! My wife and I both discussed how much we would lose if forced again into shutdown.

    I also realise now how my dad must have felt when they took his driver’s licence away …

  141. MemoryFault

    Looks like the Cat has run out of steam. Again.
    Oh well.

    Life’s a bitch.
    And then you’re dead.
    So I may as well
    Just go to bed.

  142. Old School Conservative

    Have some friends who go to Yass frequently, Mark.
    That one I am sharing.
    Thanks.

  143. JC

    Some dickhead has the delusion that KD be Mk50 under a new name.

    That’s because Andonis doesn’t change his blog name after he makes a dickhead of himself under the old one.

    Oh hang on, that’s like you, you unethical clown.

  144. Is the Maaca’s Yass sign still up? That lame pic has been in circulation for some time.

    Mark’s selection is still 95% fresh, though. Good stuff!

  145. Mark A

    Bad news about a friend.
    Unexpected, 62 young.

  146. Mark A

    Peter

    On reflection:
    Sorry MF I meant it’s me blowing off steam after a long day on Skype and other internetty thingies.
    Despite all the hype about online meetings and problem solving some problems need face to face meeting or in my case hands on action.

    Hard to handle a tool visually.
    Being on edge for a long time is not a good state to be in.

  147. NoFixedAddress

    Mark A
    #3511377, posted on July 13, 2020 at 1:39 am

    Bad news about a friend.
    Unexpected, 62 young.

    Bugger.

    You’ll need to register to send but give us a ‘hoy’ in a PM at https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/

  148. MemoryFault

    Thanks Tom.
    Chip Bok today.

  149. DrBeauGan

    Thanks Tom. I’m not sure about the Garrison one. That looks like tricky dicky Nixon applauding Stone getting off. Does Garrison approve or disapprove?

  150. Struth

    Dayshift….get in here.

  151. NoFixedAddress

    there slack as

  152. NoFixedAddress

    Fuget about defund the cops.

    When will folk wake up and defund the judiciary.

  153. MemoryFault

    Morning you latecomers.
    A quick song for anybody else also condemned to an early start today.

  154. Knuckle Dragger

    You only need to read the first six words of this piece in the Hun to know the rest of it was going to describe yet another almighty fuckup:

    ‘Authorities have sent Victorians in self-quarantine text messages mistakenly saying they were free to leave ­isolation before their 14-day period ended. The Department of Health and Human Services was unaware on Sunday night of how many people had received the wrong advice as a result of a “data entry error”.

    ‘The messages, sent on Sunday morning, told some Victorians in strict two-week isolation they were “no longer in quarantine”, several days ahead of their actual end date. It included one Melbourne woman who was in self-­quarantine with her daughter after her partner tested positive to coronavirus only on Wednesday.

    ‘The woman, who did not want to be identified, said she had been repeatedly contacted by DHHS workers via phone calls, text messages and emails during their isolation period, reminding her to adhere to the strict quarantine rules.

    ‘One such email came on Sunday morning, but just 20 minutes later she received a text saying unless she was awaiting test results or had been re-exposed, she was no longer in quarantine.’

    Jeepers. At least the Vicco DHHS has robust procedures in place to remedy this sort of thing. Oh wait:

    ‘Asked if they would be issuing new texts to clarify the advice, the spokesman said first they would have to identify the affected group.

    ‘“That’s a mammoth task,” the spokesman said, adding if people were concerned they had received an advice messages in error they should contact DHHS.’

    They’re actively trying to fuck this up. Further. They have to be. DHHS are blaming a ‘simple inadvertent data entry error’, ensuring that if somebody has to be sacked it’s some poor $1.50 an hour punter, and not a Chosen One.

  155. NoFixedAddress

    KD

    I am relieved to see that The Victorian Public Service Government ™ are completely in control.

  156. rickw

    Daily dose of Vietnam!

  157. rickw

    You only need to read the first six words of this piece in the Hun to know the rest of it was going to describe yet another almighty fuckup

    This shit show just gets funnier by the minute! Next time someone says “we need the government to…..”

  158. Knuckle Dragger

    AFL.

    Going through some stats, although I’m not normally a stats man. Hawthorn v Pies on Friday night yielded an average kick length of 22 metres from Hawthorn, and Collingwood wasn’t much better with 29 metres.

    Unfuckingbelievable. A kick the length of a cricket pitch was the average for an entire team, during an entire game. Not the Minis, not the 16s, not the magoos and not the AFLV. Apparently some of the best footballers in the country averaged 22 metres per kick.

    There are cane toads which, when splashed with Dettol can kick a Sherrin more than 22 metres. People wonder why interest is collapsing in the game as a spectacle. This is why.

  159. Herodotus

    Fascinating definition of “impartial” treatment of topics at their BBC. Bound to come in handy at “our” ABC.
    It goes along these lines:
    We can’t give equal time and exposure to all views, such as to those who think the world is flat versus those who know it is round.
    Similarly we cant’ give time to climate deniers, as the facts of climate change are well established.

  160. Herodotus

    Noting the graphs presented in the latest virus stories here, once again we hear the daily toll from the ABC about how many new covid-19 cases have been discovered in the USA. Must be such a badly run place is the implication.
    No mention of either the increased testing or the relative death rates.
    That’s your public broadcaster notion of “impartiality” at work.

  161. NoFixedAddress

    Similarly we cant’ give time to climate deniers, as the facts of climate change are well established.

    and can’t be proven except in zombie minds.

  162. Top Ender

    Earth attacks! Army of spacecraft heading to Mars
    CHRISTINA LAMB

    The roads may still be quiet down here on a COVID-hit Earth but outer space seems headed for an interplanetary traffic jam as a string of missions take off for Mars over the next few weeks.

    The Red Planet will be the busiest it has ever been as the world’s two biggest powers — and one tiny one — set off on a new quest to discover whether there has ever been life on Mars.

    A planned fourth launch, a joint EU-Russian project, has been postponed until 2022.

    The reason for the rush is a rare “launch window” in which the distances between the orbits of Earth and Mars are close and set to narrow to a mere 62,120,678km in October.

    This means the journey takes just six or seven months.

    The first to launch on Tuesday is the Arab world’s first space mission — the Hope probe of the United Arab Emirates — a country that six years ago did not even have a space program. Not content with building the world’s tallest tower and ski slopes in the desert, as well as flexing its international muscle with troops in Yemen and airstrikes in Libya, the tiny sheikhdom is investing billions to shoot for the stars.

    The UAE has been space-mad since its first astronaut went into orbit last year.

    Hazza al-Mansouri, 36, spent eight days on the International Space Station. His reports back so gripped the nation that he was mobbed on his return. It is also providing an unexpected role model for schoolgirls: 40 per cent of its space team is female.

    Weather conditions permitting, the unmanned UAE probe will lift off from the Japanese island of Tanegashima and arrive in February 2021 to coincide with the UAE’s golden jubilee. It will then orbit for a Martian year of 687 days and aims to produce the first global map of the Martian atmosphere. It ultimately plans to build a city — the Mars 2117 Project announced by Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, ruler of Dubai.

    The week after the Hope takeoff will see the launch of the first solely Chinese mission to Mars, the Tianwen-1 or Heavenly Questions probe. The Long March 5 rocket is scheduled to take off from Wenchang on Hainan island on July 23 and aims to arrive next February, when it will drop an orbiter, lander and solarpowered rover on Mars, a triple that no other nation has achieved.

    Last but not least is Nasa’s Perseverance mission, which takes off from Cape Canaveral in Florida on July 30 or soon after, and plans to land a rover in the Jezero crater. Another US rover, Curiosity, is already there. Perseverance is expected to spend one Mars year collecting rock and soil samples that scientists hope will shed light on past life forms that may have inhabited the planet.

    Mars has long intrigued scientists because of evidence of water in the past, suggesting it could have sustained microbial life.

    There have been 56 missions to the Red Planet since the 1960s, of which fewer than half have been successful. The British lander Beagle 2 crashed in 2003.

    Of 12 Mars landing attempts, eight — all by NASA — led to successful surface missions.

    “It’s the only planet where we’ve been able to detect past signs of (the possibility of) life, and the more we learn about it, the more hope there is,” said Michel Viso, an astrobiologist at CNES, France’s space agency.

    “It feels like something exciting is happening.”

    Several wealthy entrepreneurs have also entered into the arena of colonising Mars.

    Elon Musk, the billionaire founder of Space-X, launched US astronauts into space in May and plans to establish a colony of a million people there by 2050.

    It’s an extreme way to escape COVID-19, but in the absence of a vaccine, and with cruises off the agenda for the moment, he may find some takers.

    THE SUNDAY TIMES

  163. rickw

    Democrats fix the gun problem:

  164. Quotable quote from Anthony Bourdain –
    “Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.”

  165. Bear Necessities

    Quotable quote from Anthony Bourdain –
    “Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.”

    Brother No. 1 , Pol Pot, did this to Cambodia. You’ll do anything to defend a communist!

  166. Mater

    Quotable quote from Anthony Bourdain –
    “Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands…

    Have you been scouring old threads, Bob?

  167. 1735099

    Brother No 1 would never have been in power if the Yanks hadn’t dropped 2,750,000 tonnes of HE on the country.

  168. will

    1735099
    #3511431, posted on July 13, 2020 at 7:47 am
    Quotable quote from Anthony Bourdain –
    “Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger

    so Kissinger murdered 5 million Cambodians? Collected mountains of skulls? I thought it was communists, but I guess I don’t live in the deranged world of Bob and the lunatic left.

  169. Struth

    I am located in Qld. I remember during the last lock down going out and about and doing what I felt like, where I was still able to, without a gun being pointed at me.
    During these lockdowns three quarters of the population are still out and about working, and we are all going to the supermarkets….the bloody supermarkets we are allowed to visit still…what sort of quarantining is this?
    It’s a very sad, illegal and disgusting joke.
    Thousands are crossing borders daily to keep the supermarket shelves stacked and plumbers and electricians are still visiting homes and on and on the list goes.
    All those businesses office staff and back room services like storeman and forklift drivers ,all at work.
    And yet once finished they go home to their houses and LOCK THEMSELVES IN just because the government told them to do it.
    There is no effective quarantining taking place, anywhere, even in a lock down, and yet people CHOSE to surrender to tyranny.
    You are as free as you want to be.
    And where you are not free, it is because the government are using force of arms to take your freedom from you.
    Why would you oblige tyranny by obeying it when no gun was pointed at you?

  170. Bruce of Newcastle

    Brother No 1 would never have been in power if the Yanks hadn’t dropped 2,750,000 tonnes of HE on the country.

    Haha. Of course he would be. Or someone very like him. Communism doesn’t stop at borders like good little Victorians.

  171. will

    1735099
    #3511439, posted on July 13, 2020 at 8:20 am
    Brother No 1 would never have been in power if the Yanks hadn’t dropped 2,750,000 tonnes of HE on the country.

    It was dropped on the Ho Chi Min trail, where the Viet communists were using Cambodians to transport supplies. It was inevitable that the Cambodians would be unleashed on their own country, after being indoctrinated and armed by the Vietnamese communists. You do have problems with history, don’t you old fruit?

    or maybe it’s that lunar left hatred of everything the USA does, or doesn’t do. I suppose you were happy for the communists to take over Vietnam and murder and enslave 200,000 brown people?

  172. Cassie of Sydney

    Greg Gutfield nails the hypocrisy of the left and cancel culture….

  173. Bushkid

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3511412, posted on July 13, 2020 at 6:38 am
    You only need to read the first six words of this piece in the Hun to know the rest of it was going to describe yet another almighty fuckup:

    That is a complete and utter effing disgrace!

    Either this Covid thing is real, or it is not.

    If it is, then the entire Victorian government should be sacked on the spot, and the top two or even three levels of state government bureaucracy as well.

    They’re run out of chances. Get rid of the bloody lot!

  174. Gab

    I see Vietman is trying to rewrite history again. Must be a day ending in y.

  175. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Quotable quote from Anthony Bourdain –
    “Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger

    I’ve been to Cambodia, and seen the monuments of skulls, the Tol Trung centre, (spelling?) and the villages where the sight of an older person is a novelty, and the only people I want to beat to death were Brother Number One and any of his Lefty supporters.

  176. caveman

    Either this Covid thing is real, or it is not.

    One big shit side show. No accountability, we have special dispensation, we work for the government.

  177. The ongoing Cold War

    @ Brookings via Benedict Evans

    The Dutch chip making machine at the centre of chinese dual use concern

    China has virtually no lithography experience or industry. Any Chinese firm trying to develop EUV lithography would have to start from scratch. It would have to close the gap with ASML’s billions of dollars, decades of experience, and the accumulated experience and tacit knowledge of their tens of thousands of employees. And it would have to succeed where experienced, billion-dollar companies failed. There is little chance a Chinese company will make an EUV lithography machine in the foreseeable future.

    Recognizing the strategic importance of EUV machines, and under pressure from the United States, in November 2019, the Dutch government prevented ASML from shipping an EUV machine to China. Related news coverage painted ASML as a pawn in the U.S.-China trade war, but the Dutch decision was about so much more. There are many strategically important technologies in the development pipeline that are potentially dangerous or destabilizing. They include artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons systems, hypersonic missiles, cyberweapons, surveillance tools, and the latest generation of nuclear weapons. These technologies, and many others, require state-of-the-art chips to develop and deploy. Keeping these chips away from the Chinese government, or those acting on its behalf, can pre-empt many worst-case human rights and security scenarios in the coming decades. The Chinese government cannot engage in techno-authoritarianism or arms races if it lacks advanced chips.

  178. NoFixedAddress

    so here is the cuban spaz zombie again

    still folding blankets in his dementia ward

    remember the dreams you had of being a teacher

    it must be debilitating to not remember your failure.

  179. Gab

    The Killing Fields in Cambodia are a particular delight to old Vietman.

  180. Farmer Gez

    Anthony Bourdain.
    A dead cook!

    How did he feel about the Molotov/Von Ribbentrop pact?

  181. Struth

    Either this Covid thing is real, or it is not.

    If you aren’t seeing people die, if no one you know is dying and the media report the deaths of single 95 year olds nationally, as dying WITH covid 19 and the hospitals are empty, and you require conformation that hasn’t been available now for months of tyrannical government………………….

  182. NoFixedAddress

    bored again

    hey jelly bean from the jungle

    are you mates with john kerry?

  183. NoFixedAddress

    Struth
    #3511458, posted on July 13, 2020 at 8:47 am

    Either this Covid thing is real, or it is not.

    If you aren’t seeing people die,

    wait Struth

    back in february who was the thing giving hourly, nightly videos of people dropping dead in the street with blood dribbling down their face?

  184. calli

    I was away with my friends on the weekend. The thing that amazed me was how fearful they all were. There was no questioning at all of “deaths per million” as opposed to “number of cases” or even cases in ICU.

    When I mentioned these things, it was like talking to a brick wall. Only one appreciated the statistical implications. So I tried another tack, the one about the time it takes to change the habits of a lifetime – anywhere between 21 days and three months and how compliant our population has become. Do they want to live like this forever? The resounding answer was “No” but the will to get out and about and go back to normal just wasn’t there.

    It’s chilling to see how quickly people can be brainwashed and their behaviour modified by fear.

  185. will

    jelly bean from the jungle

  186. Tom

    Lock this in as the only dead cert of the 2020 AFL season (from the Paywallian’s Media Diary):

    It’s the hometown ratings blockbuster that Perth boy and media mogul Kerry Stokes could once only dream of.

    With Victoria’s COVID crisis raging, Diary hears that in the last few days, the odds have shortened dramatically that Stokes’ personal Holy Grail, a Perth AFL Grand Final, could now become a reality.

    We’re told that for all of Eddie McGuire’s talk last week of a Sydney decider, it’s COVID-free Perth that’s the AFL’s real dark horse.

    And “King of the West” Stokes has thrown his sizeable media resources, particularly The West Australian newspaper, behind a Grand Final heist, with front page stories and mass WA petitions for the game to come to Perth.

    The AFL is now looking seriously at staging the decider at Perth’s Optus Stadium on October 24, and having it screened live nationally on Stokes’ Seven network, with prospective Perth mayor, Basil Zempilas, calling the action.

    Here’s the big clincher: a Perth Grand Final can single-handedly solve the TV-driven debate about whether the Grand Final should be in the day or at night. In Perth, it can be both.

    Seven has long wanted a night-time Grand Final to maximise ratings. But with a 3PM opening whistle in Perth, it will be a 6PM starting time in Sydney and Melbourne because of daylight saving: ratings heaven for Stokes while keeping the daytime grand final tradition alive.

    It may also be the best financial outcome for the code, because in finals games, it is the AFL itself, not the teams, that pockets gate and hospitality revenues.

    Normally, playing at the 100,000 capacity MCG is a no-brainer financially. But today, the prospect of anything near full capacity at the MCG in October is remote.

    For the AFL right now, 60,000 screaming fans at COVID-free Optus Stadium (in east coast prime time) looks hard to beat.

  187. Mother Lode

    ROBERT MUELLER BREAKS HIS SILENCE TO CONDEMN TRUMP

    Considering it was his job to prove misdeeds by Trump, and his inability to find anything against Trump but evidence of underhanded and fraudulent activities targeting Trump carried out by true bad people – condemning Trump just comes across as churlish.

    A natural fit for the Democrats.

  188. lotocoti

    Can anyone play?
    Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat the French to death with your bare hands.
    Without the French rearming the Russians, the Huns wouldn’t have been paranoid about their eastern borders.
    There would have been no Guns of August.
    No stab in the back, Versailles, Weimar, Brown Shirts or Endlösung.
    No Big Charles, Algérie or Indochine wars.
    Hell, the Romanovs might’ve even been able to avoid a Bolshevik revolution.

  189. calli

    Also interesting to see how easily they accepted the transition from “managing” to “elimination” of something that can’t be eliminated. Again, only one saw the impossibility, and she’s in the medical field.

    It’s like a big, smothering blanket of fear and foolishness has been cast over normal, happy people. Everyone watching everyone else to make sure they are obeying “rules”, but having an embarrassed, apologetic chuckle about it. At least there is a little self-awareness, but it won’t last. Watching others is as much a habit as anything else.

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    Calli – I read this one earlier, which fits exactly your comment.

    When Will The Madness End? (11 Jul)

    A thin, wise-looking bearded man with Freud-style glasses sat down across from me, having just left the studio. He was there to catch his breath following his interview but he looked deeply troubled.

    “There is fear in the air,” I said, breaking the silence.

    “Madness is all around us. The public is adopting a personality disorder I’ve been treating my whole career.”

    “What is it that you do?” I asked.

    “I’m a practicing psychiatrist who specializes in anxiety disorders, paranoid delusions, and irrational fear. I’ve been treating this in individuals as a specialist. It’s hard enough to contain these problems in normal times. What’s happening now is a spread of this serious medical condition to the whole population. It can happen with anything but here we see a primal fear of disease turning into mass panic. It seems almost deliberate. It is tragic. Once this starts, it could take years to repair the psychological damage.”

    He goes on to quote from Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds by Charles Mackay:

    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    We’re certainly in such a time.

  191. calli

    back in february who was the thing giving hourly, nightly videos of people dropping dead in the street with blood dribbling down their face?

    Forget February, when no one knew much at all about the thing.

    Today, I watched the “three wise blondes” on Seven opining that if we didn’t obey “the rules” we would all be in the ICU drowning in our own juice.

    I’m so over this crap.

  192. Maj

    Winning!

    Poll: Suburban Women Strongly Back Donald Trump’s Migration Policy

    Suburban women overwhelmingly support President Donald Trump’s policy of freezing the inflow of foreign workers until they, their husbands, and their children regain the jobs lost to the coronavirus crash, according to a poll of 1,810 likely voters by Rasmussen Reports.

    Just 12 percent of swing-voting “moderate” suburban women, and just 19 percent of all likely voters, agreed with business groups and Democrats that the government should “allow employers to import foreign workers to fill job openings instead of recruiting among these unemployed Americans.”

    But Trump’s June 22 policy is getting overwhelming support — even among groups who are not part of the GOP coalition.

    Sixty-seven percent of all voters said “no” to more foreign workers. So did 80 percent of conservative suburban women, 71 percent of moderate suburban women, and 62 percent of liberal suburban women.

    Rasmussen’s June 28 to July 6 poll is important because Trump is considering whether he can boost his sagging polls by expanding the popular “Hire American” policy before the election.

    The policy is opposed by business donors and by some White House aides — and by 17 percent of suburban liberal women.

    Rasmussen asked: “Minorities and women have been hit particularly hard by job losses as a result of the pandemic. Should the government allow employers to import foreign workers to fill job openings instead of recruiting among these unemployed Americans?”

    The “no” answer was echoed by 75 percent of Republicans and 59 percent of Democrats, although 18 percent of Democrats dodged the question, saying, “Not Sure.”

    Seventy-seven percent of non-college white voters and 72 percent of black college voters took Trump’s side.

    Among conservatives, 67 percent said no, as did 67 percent of moderates.

    The results were similar when liberals and progressives were indirectly asked if they want to back Trump’s June 22 Executive Order.

    Rasmussen asked: “An Executive Order has paused the admission of hundreds of thousands of foreign workers until the end of 2020. Should that pause be extended until unemployment rates are back down to the level they were before the pandemic?

    Trump’s June 22 order was backed 55 percent to 30 percent among all voters, and by 72 percent to 17 percent among conservative suburban women.

    Pres. Trump’s big #H1B & visa worker reforms: The Top 11 angles you need to know.https://t.co/50CEvXJy9S

    — Neil Munro (@NeilMunroDC) June 23, 2020

    Trump’s June 22 policy is so popular that it split the groups that oppose Trump.

    For example, his policy was backed by a large plurality of self-described “moderate” suburban women, 47 percent to 35 percent.

    But it was even backed by a narrow plurality, 39 percent to 37 percent, among liberal women who hate Trump.

    The support is likely even greater because large minorities of these suburban groups refused to answer the question. For example, 19 percent of moderate women and 24 percent of liberal women refused to oppose Trump’s policy.

    Overall, Trump’s Americans-first policy is backed by 51 percent of suburban white women — and by some of the 20 percent who said “not sure.”‘

    His policy is also backed by 60 percent of non-white suburban women, plus some of the 13 percent who said, “not sure.”

    Among blacks, Trump’s June 22 policy won by 54 percent support to 30 percent opposition, plus some of the 16 percent who said, “not sure.”

    Among Hispanics, Trump’s June 22 policy scored 66 percent support, with 22 percent opposition, and 12 percent “not sure.”

    Among all voters, his policy is backed by 55 percent and opposed by just 30 percent, while 15 percent dodge the question by responding “not sure.”

    Rasmussen’s number should not be a surprise. Many polls — notably a Washington Post poll — show that voters strongly prefer policies that pressure companies to hire Americans, even as they also tell pollsters that they want to welcome migrants. In contrast, business groups fund polls that push people to agree with the Cold War claim that the United States is a “Nation of Immigrants” instead of a nation of Americans.

    This apparent inconsistency is perfectly decent. Americans feel pressure to live up to the claim that the United States is a “Nation of Immigrants,” and they generally welcome migrants. Still, the polls that probe deeper show that Americans strongly favor politicians who help them and their communities get jobs.

    Kellyanne Conway spotted that polling tension in 2014 — and it was the key to Trump’s victory in 2016.

    Liberals have a snobbery problem.
    51% told Rasmussen that too few Americans will work tough jobs, regardless of pay.
    Just 20% of conservatives think many working-class Americans are lazy.
    This snobbery is made possible & easier by mass migration. https://t.co/1uUBW7OgvT

    — Neil Munro (@NeilMunroDC) July 3, 2020

  193. NoFixedAddress

    calli
    #3511462, posted on July 13, 2020 at 8:54 am

    I was away with my friends on the weekend.

    It is sad calli

    all the best to you and your friends

  194. notafan

    Hard to figure in Melbourne.

    It’s cold, wet and school holidays so a lot will be away and return at end of school holidays, or perhaps not if working from home and schools closed.

    Better off staying outside the Ring of Steel.

    It’s not full quarantine anyhow for most people, it’s merely maintaining the 1.5 and hand sanitizing. That’s the new normal that people are okay with. Not the forced closures of churches, cafes restaurants etc, things that were okay last week, and were supposed to be up to 50 already.

    We are being treated as a low trust society because our government imported a low trust society, who behaved exactly as they always do.

    Thanks a bunch.

  195. Nick

    Such lies. It’s almost funny

    The ‘Australians stuck in India’ Facebook group, details stories of repeated, last-minute disappointment. One mother has 11 plane tickets home in her and her son’s names – all cancelled.

    Susan Aranha, a nurse at Box Hill Hospital in Melbourne’s east, said the four week trip with her two children to visit her parents had “turned into a nightmare”.

    She says her daughter, who has Kawasaki disease, has been unable to attend her scheduled check-ups at the Monash Children’s Hospital and was diagnosed with epilepsy while in India.

    I need help to return home so I can earn my living. I kept paying rent, bills for my Australian home for the last five months. No salary or assistance from the government.” Ms Aranha said.

    “Our patience is wearing thin as we are almost here for nearly six months now. We need to get back to our lives … All I need is a means to return home so I can earn my living for me and kids.”

    Susmy Saju, a 24-year-old criminology graduate from Sydney, flew to Kerala at the start of March to look after her grandpa following surgery.

    The costs of returning now include an additional $3000 for hotel quarantine in NSW, if she does manage to find a flight home.

    “My plans of finding a job after finishing my degree this year have been shattered. Without any hope of returning home this year, I’m tired, upset and feeling let down by our government,” she said.

    I’m unsure on how I’ll be able to afford quarantine and the ticket to fly home without an income.

    “I have always been proud to call myself Australian … I can only pray and hope that it remains that way and the Australians stuck overseas are safely brought home without the burden of a financial debt.”

  196. NoFixedAddress

    ASO – an Australian Secret Organization ™ without Intelligence ™ is perving on Australian children without any approval at all.

    Brought to you by The Australian Public Service Government ™.

    Remember, you are to stupid to think for yourself.

  197. calli

    Good grief, Nick. Human leeches.

    No wonder our grubbymints wanted to import big daddy-government lovers. A perfect match and an endless vote mine.

    They have no love for Australia, only what Australia can do for them.

  198. Struth

    It’s chilling to see how quickly people can be brainwashed and their behaviour modified by fear.

    I must admit, I can’t believe the disgusting selfishness of allowing this to happen when you have children and any mature outlook about the world.
    Fear for their own lives at all costs, and once it has been proven to be all bullshit, people are still reduced to quivering useless blobs of insanity.

    It has been stunning to witness,
    There are non so blind as refuse to see.
    It’s absolutely critical to try and retain your sanity surrounded by such weakness of mind.

    When people who have lived in communist states talk about it, they say that of all the poverty and despair and criminality, it was trying to stay sane which was the hardest thing to do.
    The lies.
    The governments knew they were lying to you.
    You knew the government was lying to you, and they knew you knew, and still did it.
    And through fear most around you repeated the lies and allowed their sanity and clear thinking to be destroyed, so as to cope in a world of delusion.

    We are seeing it here in Australia right now.
    People are willingly still going along with the bullshit, purely as a coping mechanism.
    Cowards prefer to hand over their sanity than fight.
    Think about all that has happened in the last few months.
    You, if thinking clearly, should be sceptical that there is even a virus at all, but at least now know, it isn’t as deadly as the flu in killing off oldies, so there is no need to worry if you are working age and get it.
    The lock downs are the Global Socialists grabbing power and wrecking the joint and underneath you know it.
    That you will argue against it is immature cowardice.
    There is no effective quarantining happening.
    There is no need for this tyranny, no excuse and no legality in it.
    If you think the other states won’t bring in and take away restrictions now constantly you have your head up your arse on purpose.
    If they give you a freedom then they can take away a freedom.
    People cannot give you what they don’t first possess.
    Unless you let them delude you that they can.

  199. It was dropped on the Ho Chi Min (sic) trail, where the Viet communists were using Cambodians to transport supplies.

    That is bullshit.
    This map shows were the bombs were dropped.
    It is official USAF data.
    The bombing destroyed what was left of the country, terrified the populace, and ultimately drove them into the arms of Pol Pot’s psychopaths.
    This provided the historical template for what happened in Iraq, and drove the rise of ISIS.
    The yanks are notoriously slow learners with an attention span of about twenty years….

  200. It’s chilling to see how quickly people can be brainwashed and their behaviour modified by fear

    .

    Refer the bombing of Cambodia.
    Thousands of tonnes of HE landing randomly on or near your neighbourhood is slightly more frightening than a wayward virus.

  201. Tom

    We are being treated as a low trust society because our government imported a low trust society, who behaved exactly as they always do.

    If you keep voting for the ALP, you guarantee the government will keep treating you like imported, uneducated trash whose freedom can be withdrawn on the whim of whoever’s in charge — just like the Third World.

  202. will

    Calli – I read this one earlier, which fits exactly your comment.

    When Will The Madness End? (11 Jul)

    Probably started with the ‘climate change’ hysteria in the late 1990s early 2000s, with the confluence of interest of the left wing MSM and academia and fascist international globalists.

    Did I really write that? It’s amazing how a tin foil hat conspiracy turns out to be true.

  203. Farmer Gez

    This provided the historical template for what happened in Iraq, and drove the rise of ISIS.

    And the defeat of Germany in WWI lead to the Nazis.

    We should have let them win, eh Bob.

  204. Nick

    They have no love for Australia, only what Australia can do for them.

    Yep, totally.
    It’s worth reading the article the Australian had about the man who organised the first two mercy flighys out of India. No good deed goes unpunished.

  205. Makka

    If you keep voting for the ALP, you guarantee the government will keep treating you like imported, uneducated trash whose freedom can be withdrawn on the whim of whoever’s in charge — just like the Third World.

    Tom, if enough are imported the numbers basically ensure the Liars are the ones to beat every time. Stacked deck, at least in Vic. This is just another instance why turbo- immigration has ruined the country. That is not to say that the cowardly Libs are not to blame either.

  206. Cassie of Sydney

    “Farmer Gez
    #3511491, posted on July 13, 2020 at 9:27 am

    We should have let them win, eh Bob.”

    Bobstain would have liked that…no Israel and no pesky Jooos to worry about.

  207. Struth

    I went into a chemist yesterday and they had on repeat a video constantly, constantly talking about how to behave with Covid 19….the word covid19 was repeated endlessly, every few seconds and I thought about the kids working there.
    They had sad vacant faces, I tried to joke with them, doing the nice old fella routine for them, and they giggled but they are lost to socialism and you can see it as plain as day.
    When adults don’t care enough about their own young, which we can see they don’t by the crying mentally abused kids coming out of schools to wail in the streets about climate change, all having at least one parent, then those parents are human filth.
    When the adults in the Chemist do not consider the mental health of their young staff members by playing that rot constantly for the eight hours every day of every shift those kids do, then they are, in my opinion, complying with government bullshit at the detriment to their charges and should step forward and fight the regulation.
    Those adults, seniors in their civilisation, allowing that to happen are not leaders of a society that will have enough integrity to fight off this attack.
    It will be the mass capitulation to socialism that is really now, inevitable.

  208. Struth

    That is not to say that the cowardly Libs are not to blame either.

    Exactly.
    The Liberals have been in charge of immigration for years……even when they got caught secretly trying to hand control of who and how many came here to the UN.

  209. Makka

    Pure evil;

    Citing coronavirus, California may release up to 18,000 prisoners by the end of August
    Measures meant to protect ‘health and safety of the incarcerated population.’

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/citing-coronavirus-california-may-release-18000-prisoners-end-august

  210. Maj

    We are being treated as a low trust society because our government imported a low trust society, who behaved exactly as they always do.

    If you keep voting for the ALP, you guarantee the government will keep treating you like imported, uneducated trash whose freedom can be withdrawn on the whim of whoever’s in charge — just like the Third World.

    Immigration is a Federal responsibility.

    Out of the last 23 years, we have had 17 years of Liberal-National government.

    During this time Australia imported millions of Chinese and we’re now importing millions of Indians.

    Those millions of Chinese and Indians come to us from low trust societies, but if you listen to Liberal-National and Labor leaders traitors they tell us Australia’s “magic dirt” will turn them into high trust Aussies.

  211. sfw

    Maj, don’t forget the African diversity enhancers, those who think nothing of home invasions, carjackings and using mob violence and intimidation to get what they want. All this bought to you by the Libs.

  212. And the defeat of Germany in WWI lead to the Nazis.

    That’s a neat rewrite of history.
    The Treaty of Versailles set the groundwork.
    The rise of an ultranationalist right wing regime in Germany on the back of economic disaster helped it along.
    The ingredients are present again – an expansionist Asian power, an increasingly isolationist and inward looking USA, and the rise of nationalism in Europe.
    It’s all there…

  213. Maj

    More proof Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world:

    Florida Driver Allegedly Crashes into Occupied Church, Sets It on Fire

    A man was arrested for allegedly driving through the front door of a church in Ocala, Florida, and setting it on fire with several people inside over the weekend.

    “The Marion County Sheriff’s Office charged Steven Shields, 23, on Saturday, hours after detectives say he plowed a minivan through the front door of Queen of Peace Catholic Church in Ocala, doused the foyer with gasoline and set it on fire, causing extensive damage,” according to the Associated Press (AP).

    Several church members were inside the building preparing for Mass when the attack occurred, the report noted.

    After lighting the fire, Shields fled in the van and Deputy Josue Gonzalez spotted the vehicle and gave chase, the sheriff’s office said in a Facebook post:

    “The defendant fled until Deputy Gonzalez was able to conduct a P.I.T. maneuver (Precision Immobilization Technique) and disable the fleeing vehicle in the 5900 block of South Highway 441, where the defendant was taken into custody,” the post read.

    Thankfully, the parishioners escaped without injury and Marion County Fire Rescue personnel quickly extinguished the fire, the update continued.

    “In an interview with sheriff’s Detective John Lightle, suspect Steven Anthony Shields said he has been diagnosed with schizophrenia and is not taking his medication,” according to the Ocala Star-Banner.

    The report continued:

    Shields said that what he did was “awesome,” and he smiled and laughed while he was questioned at the Sheriff’s Office, according to an arrest affidavit. Referring to himself as the “king” and saying he was on a “mission,” Shields told the detective he has problems with the Catholic Church and made reference to several Bible passages, including the Book of Revelation.

    Later, Sheriff Billy Woods said in a statement, “Our freedom of worship granted in the Constitution is a freedom that we all hold dear. My deputies and I are sworn to protect that right and will always ensure our citizens can worship in peace.”

    “I’m proud of my deputies for capturing this man so quickly and we appreciate the assistance from all of the state and federal agencies that worked alongside of us during this investigation,” he noted.

    Following his arrest, Shields was held without bail at the Marion County Jail and faced several charges that included attempted second-degree murder, arson to a structure, and burglary of an occupied structure, according to the Star-Banner.

  214. Makka

    The rise of an ultranationalist right wing regime in Germany on the back of economic disaster helped it along.

    More lies from the blog communist. The Nazi Party was first and foremost a Socialist Party, as depicted in their name;

    National Socialist German Workers’ Party

    numbers will always protect the lofty ideals of Socialism. Including attempts to re-write history.

    Communists like numbers always, always lie. It’s in their DNA.

  215. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Treaty of Versailles held Germany responsible for starting the war and imposed harsh penalties in terms of loss of territory, massive reparations payments and demilitarization.

    From bin chicken’s link.

    The Treaty of Brest Litivosk, imposed by Germany on a defeated Russia, in 1917 cost Russia 34% of her population, 30% of farmland, 90% of coal mines, 26% of railways and six billion marks in reparations.

  216. Tom

    The Monday media column by The Australian‘s former editor in chief Chris Mitchell is forensic:

    The media has got plenty wrong in the COVID-19 pandemic. Partly because we did not know what we did not know, many journalists over-estimated the disease’s risk to most people’s lives and underestimated the risk to economic health of government shutdowns.

    This column, on March 15, said economies would not “snap back”, and the economic damage of the pandemic could prove worse than the health effects.

    On March 29, it reported early data from Oxford University’s Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine that showed COVID-19 death rates in Italy were largely associated with age and comorbidities.

    Italy had one of the highest rates of antibiotic resistance in Europe, the highest smoking rate and the largest percentage of multi-generational family living arrangements. The Italian Health Ministry said only 12 per cent actually died of the virus. The other 88 per cent had the virus but pre-existing conditions had killed them.

    So, how to judge the media reaction to the latest outbreaks in Melbourne? In the context of total active cases in Victoria of more than 1200, it seems the media is overreacting given global cases of at least 12 million.

    The first national shutdown was meant to be to allow time for our health system to catch up with anticipated demand that some panicked media predicted could see 150,000 deaths here.

    Months on, most of our new intensive care units and ventilators have not been used.

    Remember, too, the World Health Organisation says up to 650,000 people a year die of influenza. The COVID-19 total last Friday stood at 556,000. A bad flu season in Australia can kill up to 3000, mostly elderly. COVID-19 had killed 106 by Friday.

    So, why the media panic about Melbourne’s outbreak when Scott Morrison warned such outbreaks would inevitably follow the easing of lockdowns?

    Partly, this is the outcome of our national strategy of suppression, which has given the media and the public the idea the disease can be eradicated even though there is no vaccine.

    Yet, having virtually halted the virus, it is disappointing maladministration of Victoria’s overseas traveller quarantine system has allowed a rapid increase in community transmission.

    COVID-19 is highly infectious and community spread can be exponential. The media needs to remember daily figures do not record the state of virus that day but how it was spreading a fortnight ago.

    This points to another trap for journalists and governments: the likelihood infection rates are much higher than numbers quoted from testing. Some US experts believe the number of Americans who have had the virus may be 10 times the three million who have tested positive.

    Many may have had only mild symptoms and thought that they had a cold. Add to that asymptomatic infections.

    Medical studies suggest that between 25 and 76 per cent of people infected may be asymptomatic.

    Initial WHO case fatality rate predictions of 5 per cent now look to be overcooked somewhere between tenfold and 25-fold, according to studies reported in the journals Nature and Science.

    Another factor plays into the intensive coverage of Victoria’s latest outbreak: hubris. Specifically, the hubris of Premier Daniel Andrews. It was Andrews who chose to lock down Victoria hardest of all states, to ban golf and fishing and to keep the schools shut longer than the other states.

    But as Ben Schneiders pointed out in The Age on July 3, it was also Andrews who decided — just 24 hours after the national cabinet meeting of March 27 resolved to detain all returning overseas travellers in hotel quarantine for two weeks — that in Victoria the job of monitoring quarantine would go to private security firms.

    “It was putting the lives of its constituents in the hands of an industry known for shady operators, wage theft and opaque contracting practices,” Schneiders wrote.

    It remains unclear why Andrews chose not to put police in charge. Peta Credlin, on SkyNews, has claimed it was because police did not want the job, but this newspaper’s Rachel Baxendale could not get Police Commissioner Shane Patton to comment on that.

    Liberal MP Tim Smith, in this paper on Wednesday, linked the private security guards decision to union factional rivalry: “Why was (Martin) Pakula, the jobs minister … put in charge of co-ordinating hotel quarantine? Here’s a clue: many of he untrained and ill-equipped private security guards are member of Pakula’s union, the NUW/United Voice”.

    It was Andrews who rejected the federal government’s offer of help with quarantining from the Australian Defence Force when signs emerged as early as late May it was going wrong.

    And it was Andrews who decided to hide behind an inquiry that won’t deliver its findings until September 25 so he could tell daily press conferences he cannot assign blame because that’s the role of inquiry chairwoman Justice Jennifer Coate.

    But we do know quite a lot more, anyway, because the virus leaves footprints that can be found with genomic testing.

    The Age’s Sumeyya Ilanbey reported on March 28 that two cases had been linked to security guards who chief medical officer Brett Sutton said had had “minimal contact with isolating guests”.

    We know, thanks to genomic testing, that this was not true. On Jul1, the Herald Sun reported Andrews saying: “A significant number and potentially more of the outbreaks to the north of the city are attributable … to staff members in hotel quarantine breaching well-known … health protocols.”

    Sutton told the paper “dozens of cases” were linked to quarantine breaches at the Stamford Plaza, on Little Collins Street, and Rydges, on Swanston Street.

    We have now learned thousands of returning travellers were released into the community after 14 days of quarantine without ever being tested. Security guards — many untrained in use of personal protective equipment — apparently slept with some returnees and took groups out shopping.

    And we know — thanks to this paper — that Victoria is hampered by a poor health system.

    A former health minister in the Brumby government, Andrews failed to reform a system that Peter van Onselen argued here on June 24 is highly centralised, without public health units in local districts as in other states.

    Sutton “sits three levels below the Premier and Health Minister … hampering his ability to make decisions swiftly”. Sutton is “one of seven direct reports to one of five deputy secretaries” who all report to the secretary of the department. The CMO really does not call the shots, whatever the Premier says.

    The Australian splashed on Thursday with a report that Victoria has a shortage of public health professionals, and yesterday Yoni Bashan told page one readers there had been a systemic failure in the State’s contact-tracing methodology.

    Contacts were not followed up daily for 14 days. In the circumstances, the Melbourne shutdown looks essential.

    Yet, two things are becoming clear about the wide pandemic. The virus is less deadly than first feared, but the global economy is in worse condition than first hoped.

    With one of the world’s largest per capita stimulus packages, Australia can’t keep shutting the economy and relying on more government spending. We will need to take on board the lessons of social-distancing.

    Link.

  217. Geriatric Mayfly

    Struth
    #3511498, posted on July 13, 2020 at 9:42 am
    I went into a chemist yesterday I tried to joke with them, doing the nice old fella routine for them,

    Similar last week. Wait at the debugging station and the girl eventually arrives. Draws her ray gun, fires at the forehead then reaches for the squirter. Is it Chanel today? I ask. St Laurent will do if not. She starts reading the label and informs me of a brand name. I submit to a drizzle and taking a sniff utter, “Shit.” Only then did she Gedddittt and had a good laugh.

  218. MatrixTransform

    They had sad vacant faces, I tried to joke with them, doing the nice old fella routine for them, and they giggled but they are lost to socialism and you can see it as plain as day.

    Yep.
    Was at Bunnings an Saturday to pick up some electrical type stuff for a love job
    Conduit, saddles, mounting block, silastic, 5 meters of 2.5mm twin and earth.
    I dont carry this stuff day to day.
    And I do hate doing love jobs

    The 20yo bint at the register rolls her vacant eyes and proceeds to interrogate me.
    Who cut the cable ?
    How long is it?

    I said, “I measured 5 metres off against the ruler and then cut it with the side-cutters hanging on the chain”
    She hurrumphs, “Well NEXT time get somebody else to cut it!!”
    I curtly replied, “Nup … not doing that”

    Lip begins to tremble while looking up the big EveryThingWithoutBarcodes book

    That’s when I realised that her sassy attitude was all because she was actually too stupid to be working in a hardware store

    I pointed, and said gently, “Its the 3rd one down … 2.5 twin and earth”

    Not gracious when getting help for her IQ problem she gives me the hairy eye and proceeds to make a great show of re-measuring the cable. … like because bushie old fella’s like me are like you like thieves

    turns out to be 5 meters. Who knew

    … so what the hell does this idiot child think her fucking job is ?

  219. notafan

    I thought the liberals refused to accept UN nominations in the latest intake from the ME, which is solely humanitarian programme anyhow .

    All other visa classes are via our own immigration department.

    Libs have not done enough to reduce immigration numbers. Absolutely.

    At least Dutton said the cap was a maximum, not a target.

    Reduced immigration is the silver lining on the coronacloud.

  220. MatrixTransform

    It’s in their DNA.

    Numpty has opined before now that both his parents were good commies too.

  221. NoFixedAddress

    Tom

    It is not a matter of labor or liberal as they are the same.

  222. stackja

    AOC suggests NYC crime surge due to unemployment, residents who need to ‘shoplift some bread’ https://fxn.ws/2AQuFMD #FoxNews

    AOC gets taxpayers’ “bread”.

  223. Geriatric Mayfly

    That’s when I realised that her sassy attitude was all because she was actually too stupid to be working in a hardware store

    They should run a Miss Bunning’s beauty pageant and make it the centrefold for a super special catalogue.

  224. notafan

    Thank you Tom for sharing.

    One misstep in the article.

    Virus might be swirling through a subset of melbournians, who clearly don’t do social distancing within their community, but have always social distanced from the kaffir.

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