Open Forum: July 11, 2020

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  1. Mother Lode

    More lies from the blog communist. The Nazi Party was first and foremost a Socialist Party, as depicted in their name;

    It is a progressive astigmatism. They have themselves, unabashedly boasting of being lefties despite the terrible cost in lives everywhere they become ascendant.

    Everybody not them, is right. Well, far right or ultra right in their parlance.

    This means Nasties are the same as conservatives are the same as Libertarians are the same as theocrats etc.

    Conservatives in the Wiemar Republic would have looked to the recent past for what they wanted. Perhaps a return of the Kaiser, holding on to traditions reaching back to before the unification of Germany, probably less of the brutish Prussian influence.

    But progressives will insist that conservatives, not being communists, were therefore in favour of the Nasties. But truly the rivalry between the Communists and the Nasties was due to the fact they both competing for the same people to join – socialists.

  2. numbers will always protect the lofty ideals of Socialism. Including attempts to re-write history.

    My father (ex-RAAF PNG) understood he was fighting Fascism, not Socialism, as did his fellow ex-service personnel in WW2.
    He would have given you a swift kick up the arse if you had denied that to his face.
    But your generation, which never saw the reality of armed conflict, make up fairy tales as you go along.

  3. notafan

    Not the my father again.

    My father was also (ex-RAAF PNG) and neither he nor his still living brother also (ex RAAF PNG) wouldn’t agree with what you claim on behalf of all ex servicemen.

    Fighting for freedom against totalitarianism.

    #weakestargumentever

  4. Old School Conservative

    Nice deflection Numbers.
    Can’t handle the truth about supporting socialism? Then default to hiding behind your father’s service.

  5. calli

    Virus might be swirling through a subset of melbournians, who clearly don’t do social distancing within their community, but have always social distanced from the kaffir.

    Chuckle. Amusing to watch the tap dancing on Seven this morning. Trotted out an “acceptable” mus lima, sans hijab, long dark hair, soulful eyes, to tell us to stop blaming her community for the scrawny Second Wave.

    No dice. They own it, along with the BLM uptick and government incompetence/corruption.

    But let’s demonise kids waiting to get into a pub at Double Bay.

  6. Geriatric Mayfly

    AOC suggests NYC crime surge due to unemployment, residents who need to ‘shoplift some bread’ https://fxn.ws/2AQuFMD #FoxNews

    TV footage shows them running out of shops with huge boxes of flat bread and smashing into others with novelty loaves shaped like shoes.

  7. calli

    Fighting for freedom against totalitarianism.

    No distrust of Uncle Joe? Only among dyed-in-the-wool commies.

    I’m shocked!

  8. Maj

    Sorry, Mr. President, you will go down in history as America’s Greatest Ever Leader but you’re wrong on this:

    Trump: Privately-Funded Border Wall ‘Was Only Done to Make Me Look Bad’

    President Trump says the construction of a privately-funded border wall at the U.S.-Mexico border was done to make him “look bad.”

    In a post on Sunday, Trump said he “disagreed with doing” a “very small (tiny) section of wall” by a group known as We Build the Wall, which raised at least $25 million from Americans wanting to help construct a border wall to reduce illegal immigration and drug trafficking.

    A portion of the privately-funded border wall, constructed in just weeks along the Rio Grande Valley of southern Texas, is under scrutiny for its effectiveness — prompting an engineering inspection to review whether the constructed barrier is eroding.

    We Build the Wall officials have said they contributed $1.5 million towards the privately built border wall project in the Rio Grande Valley region. Defenders have touted U.S. Border Patrol chiefs praising the project’s effectiveness.

    Trump wrote in response to the news:

    I disagreed with doing this very small (tiny) section of wall, in a tricky area, by a private group which raised money by ads. It was only done to make me look bad, and perhsps it now doesn’t even work. Should have been built like rest of Wall, 500 plus miles. https://t.co/L8RUPCAhqc

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 12, 2020

    The International Boundary and Water Commission and the National Butterfly Center have sued over the construction of the privately-funded border wall.

    Assistant U.S. Attorney Eric Paxton Warner said engineers are looking at four specific areas where erosion may be occurring and attorney for the National Butterfly Center Javier Peña alleges the erosion is significant.

    Trump touted the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) progress on construction of border wall in contrast to the privately-funded project. According to Trump, DHS has built about 240 miles of wall since January 2017 and claimed that 450 miles would be completed by the end of the year.

    We have now built 240 Miles of new Border Wall on our Southern Border. We will have over 450 Miles built by the end of the year. Have established some of the best Border Numbers ever. The Radical Left Democrats want Open Borders for anyone, including many criminals, to come in!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 12, 2020

    In January, though, Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf confirmed that those 450 miles of border wall includes constructed barriers and those under construction, but not fully completed.

    Trump originally wanted between 500 to 550 miles of border wall completed by the end of his first term, but DHS personnel changes, waits on federal permits and contracts, and a slow start in 2017 have delayed construction.

    The nearly 2,000-mile long U.S.-Mexico border has less than 700 miles of existing barrier and the majority remains open. Much of Trump’s border wall replaces dilapidated fencing and vehicle barriers built by Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

  9. calli

    I presume the surge in gun crime in NYC is over bread too.

  10. Mater

    My father (ex-RAAF PNG) understood he was fighting Fascism, not Socialism, as did his fellow ex-service personnel in WW2.

    Enough of using your father to push a position, Bob. You’ve previously deceived us about his service, in order to win arguments. You should leave him out of it.

  11. JC

    Look at our rones citing numbers like he’s a Harvard grad. Imposing.

    Rones, what’s the wiki page?

  12. stackja

    Victorian voters keep electing ALP.
    Pyramid Building Society disaster was because of John Cain.
    Dan has the Wuhan virus disaster.

  13. MatrixTransform

    a couple of years back, I bought 3 coffees at the cafe in the bottom of a building we do a lot of work in.

    Tattoo’d bookish blue-hair probably a carpet-muncher.

    We got our wires crossed when I said the last two … 2 sugars each … and held up 2 fingers.
    She must have heard something else and so I ended up with 4 coffees and the last three with out sugar.

    I’d already paid with the pay-wave thingy.
    I just shrugged and sugared two coffees and said we must have got our wires crossed.
    I only want three.
    And she looks at me with a snarl and says “NOooo, you ordered 4 ! (subtext:you fascist cis-arsehole)”
    I said, “dont worry about it doesnt matter … don’t worry about the refund its all too hard juggling these”

    I believe her voice went up a couple of octaves … “Well !! What do you want from me !!?? Then ? subtext:nazi scum)”

    I leaned in, cos that’s what the cool kids do … said quietly “If I want anything, it just for you to do your job properly”

    an immediate 2 higher octaves again and she’s shrieking …. I didnt even listen … stupid fuck

    now years later … every single trade that works in that building visits the bloke across the road partly because his coffee is better, also he has potato cakes and dimmies instead of wank-panini … but mostly because he isnt a whiny little post-modern tosser

    the best part of this … I can often be found in the building managers office pecking away at the automation system computer. One day the manager gets a visit from the cafe owner who is complaining (whinging) that none of the house tradies buy their coffee from him etc.

    They seriously thought the best course of action was to get the building manager to mandate where his crew would luncheon.

    … I dont think it works like they think it works.

    fuck em, they’ve probably done their balls already (if they have any between them)

  14. twostix

    My father (ex-RAAF PNG) understood he was fighting Fascism, not Socialism, as did his fellow ex-service personnel in WW2.

    This guy grew up in the 1950’s in rural QLD.

    If you didn’t know any better you’d believe the place that delivered QLD ole Joh was actually a hotbed of socialist and soviet sympathisers.

    Imagine the public education system, imagine this guy being in a position of real power within it.

    Now imagine being an 11 year old child at his and his fellow travellers mercy.

    All day, every day lies, lies and lies to rewrite history, gaslight and manipulate reality to serve the cause.

  15. Mother Lode

    Top Ender might know more about this, but I was reading something the other day about how onerous the terms of Versaille were.

    The fellow who wrote the article pointed out that the terms the Brest-Litovsk treaty were harsher on the Russians than Versaille was on the Germans, certainly in terms of territory lost and reparations levied.

    As for reparations, the Germans were considered liable for the civilian cost of the war. And while the notional figure of 150 billion Marks, they were told they were only had to cough up 50 billion with the balance to be based on ability to pay. In any event they borrowed something like 27 billion Marks from the US for reparations and even then only paid something like 21 billion. They trousered the rest, and later defaulted on the loans.

    In short, reparations were not a drain on the economy. The hyperinflation was the result of domestic policy.

    But people learned to blame everything on reparations – lost your job, shortages in shops, broke a dish – REPARATIONS!!!

    Like the myth that the German Army was never defeated in the field it was repeated so often, so forcefully, and so blatantly, that people began to believe it must be true.

  16. stackja

    Virgil: Welcome to Year One—All Prior History Is Cancelled via @BreitbartNews

    Robespierre cancelled and was in turn cancelled.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Great Karen-story MT!
    “The customer is always right” is a phrase I got as a kid, but seems to’ve vanished from society.

  18. Shy Ted

    Cat poll: Joanne Lees guilty?
    Guilty: She used the wrong language. Her emotions were all wrong. She wouldn’t do as advised. She was there. She had a fling. She identified the gun incorrectly. She didn’t describe Murdoch’ vehicle perfectly. She wore a funny T shirt. Was there a dog? Which dog? Not a shred of evidence.
    Against: Career criminal Murdoch including weapons and shooting offences (CH7 missed this bit) (it was in the book). Falconio’s blood. Murdoch’ DNA which was the link to the Lees T-shirt. Murdoch’ vehicle identified in the area and Murdoch look alike pretty much identified on CCTV 5 hours later (it is’t 5 hours from the murder site to the truck stop. Falconio’ bank account has never been used since, where is he or his body? A hallucinating truckie and “it was a very dark night. A drug using convicted lawyer (why is he even practising?) on the public purse. “A bush dog would have found her”. (They’re heelers not hounds).
    So where is Falconio’ body? Murdoch was a drug runner between SA and Broome and used all the back roads. These fellas are usually enormously strong and even if he couldn’t lift the dead weight it’s common practice to carry a plank or similar to hoist the body (usually a roo) on to the plank and lift into the ute.
    Will watch next week just cos it’s interesting but the evidence will be like last night, non-existent. Falconio’ body is somewhere between Barrow Creek and Broome.

  19. Maj

    Reduced immigration is the silver lining on the coronacloud.

    Think it will last? Think again.

    Fast-forward this vid to 9 minutes and just watch Alan Tudge trying to dodge the question on post-virus immigration numbers.

    My bet, it’s gonna be yuuuuge but they don’t want to tell us about it just yet.

  20. EvilElvis

    Ahhhh, thought I’d pop out this morning and kick the tires on the OT. One owner, low miles, only driven to church on Sundays, eh? What’s that funny smell then grandma?

    Good to see struth and a few others on fire and the regular to and fro. And do I sense KD is back in form! Gunner, was expecting a burn out in the wagon on that greasy road!

    Life’s getting in the way of the Cat at the moment but that’s not a bad thing. Now, about that smell…

  21. Makka

    My father (ex-RAAF PNG) understood he was fighting Fascism, not Socialism, as did his fellow ex-service personnel in WW2.

    Then your father needs to read up on what exactly the Nazi Party was about. Your father was fighting Japanese totalitarianism and militarism in PNG. It comes in many forms, Socialism and Communism being 2 very high performing totalitarian ideals.

    My Grandfather (ex- Australian Army Nth Africa) was fighting against oppression and totalitarianism. Against a tyrannical regime of National Socialists. He knew better than to join a union when he returned. He was against everything Socialists and Communists like you want to impose and take away when you have the power to do so.

    I bet your revered commo FIL was cheering on the commo loving wharfies as they sabotaged our WW2 diggers on the docks.

  22. notafan

    I’m not following the Peter Falconio story but I’m why would she?

    Unmarried bachpacking couple splits up.

    News at eleven .

  23. Old School Conservative

    From Maj’s link:
    Music blaring … intoxicated patrons packed in shoulder to shoulder. It makes me despair. Are we all in this together? It seems not. I am ashamed of my community,” the resident said.

    No sir/madam, it is you that the community is ashamed of .
    Engaging in hyperbolic over-statement to make a point.
    Dobbing in Australians who are actually following current laws.
    Slurring a typical Australian activity to push your own wheelbarrow.
    Ignoring the Australian way of individual freedom to take risks based on personal evaluation.

    It’s just a bunch of rugger huggers enjoying a day at the footy in the sun. Your attempt to wipe out social functioning in our country is reprehensible.

    Although it may not be your fault. The government/scientist/media complex may have brainwashed you.

  24. Cassie of Sydney

    “All day, every day lies, lies and lies to rewrite history, gaslight and manipulate reality to serve the cause.”

    Yep….everyday he lies, deflects and obfuscates though at times he can be quite funny…such as his pearler a few months ago that he received, in Queensland in the 1950’s, a “progressive Catholic education”! Now that’s a classic.

  25. Mother Lode

    My father (ex-RAAF PNG) understood he was fighting Fascism, not Socialism, as did his fellow ex-service personnel in WW2.

    Fighting the name or fighting the thing?

    The thing was a brutally oppressive state which killed its own citizens and sought to subjugate through conquest other nations and foist its own uncompromising regime on them.

    Just like the Soviets who, at the conclusion of the war, was determined to hold onto territory it had conquered and subject the hapless populations to its own cruel and inhuman rule.

  26. Cassie of Sydney

    “I bet your revered commo FIL was cheering on the commo loving wharfies as they sabotaged our WW2 diggers on the docks.”

    Yes..that same revered FIL who remained in the communist party well into the 1960’s….many years after the purges, the mass murders and the gulags became well known. What a family.

  27. thefrollickingmole

    Can the site Ibis use a dead serviceman to show how ‘moral’ it is 3 times before midday?
    Place your bets ladies and gentlemen.

    My father (ex-RAAF PNG) understood he was fighting Fascism, not Socialism, as did his fellow ex-service personnel in WW2.

    Those bloody individualist nazis, acolytes of Ayn rand the lot of them….

    As depicted in her novels.

    Das Fountainhead.
    Nazism, the unknown ideal
    And who can forget Himmler Shrugged?

  28. cohenite

    They have no love for Australia, only what Australia can do for them.

    Sums up most of the modern immigrants perfectly. But they have been allowed to be so by the weak, self-hating policies of both sides of politics.

    Behind it all is the vile hatred of things like the troll. I see it has blamed cambodia and the WW11 on the West. I suppose with the current revision of history through the lens of the leftist mob the troll may end up right.

    Someone who knows who the vile thing is should keep an eye on the daily death notices and when it happens present the good news immediately.

  29. notafan

    Truly though if you were in png fighting the japs you wouldn’t be giving much thought to the Nazis.

    Partly because the true horror of the regime wasn’t known to the general public and also because of the immediacy of your situation.

    My old neighbour was also (ex RAAF PNG) who was there three years.
    Told me they were more concerned by snakes than japs.

    If you weren’t a member of the flight crew then that made a lot of sense for raafies.

    That and things like dengue fever and malaria.

  30. calli

    On the surly checkout chicks.

    Part of the problem us that they have to work while their mates are being paid sit down money via Jobkeeper. And the net advantage is minimal for the young.

    And if you have to “police” a bunch of unruly oldies who refuse to Socialist Distance it just gets worse. I feel sorry for the poor kids. They can’t even dance away their troubles at the pub.

  31. cohenite

    Ah, I never get tired of watching the frogs king hit pirate pete:

  32. JC

    It was a cowardly sucker punch, Conkite. However, it well deserved for future behavior.

  33. Bruce in WA

    When they’re on a roll, they’re gonna keep on rolling:

    The University of Southern California School of Cinematic Arts has decided to remove an exhibit of iconic Western movie star John Wayne amid claims the actor represents “white supremacy.

    The Hollywood Reporter reports the removal was confirmed by the school on Friday after students and alumni made complaints.

    “Conversations about systemic racism in our cultural institutions along with the recent global, civil uprising by the Black Lives Matter Movement require that we consider the role our School can play as a change-maker in promoting antiracist cultural values and experiences,” assistant dean of diversity and inclusion Evan Hughes said. “Therefore, it has been decided that the Wayne Exhibit will be removed.”

    The exhibit of Wayne, who attended the school in the 1920s, was created in 2012 but students started complaining about the use of his imagery last year when disparaging comments he previously made resurfaced.

    “By keeping Wayne’s legacy alive, SCA is endorsing white supremacy,” students said at the time, according to the report.

    In response to the earlier complaints, the school said they would be keeping the exhibit. They would, however, create a separate space to showcase Indigenous filmmaking, feminism, and critical race theory to off-set any perceived offense.

  34. thefrollickingmole

    Pape white kids: Fine.
    White kid posts offensive shit to millionaire performer: Insta-arrest.
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/12/police-arrest-12-year-old-boy-after-racist-messages-are-sent-to-wilfried-zaha
    West Midlands police have confirmed they have arrested a 12-year-old boy after Wilfried Zaha was subjected to racist abuse on social media before Crystal Palace’s match against Aston Villa on Sunday.

    Zaha shared screenshots of messages sent to his Instagram account in the early hours of Sunday, including one of members of the white supremacist organisation the Ku Klux Klan. “Woke up to this today,” Zaha wrote.

  35. custard

    Bradley Murdoch was such a loose individual that even a local bikie gang kicked him out. Thats saying something. He used to drive around Albany years ago doing some of the craziest shit I’ve ever seen.

    My step-sister was his girlfriend at the time of the Falconio disappearance and ultimately went to the NT Police which I understand was the breakthrough in the investigation.

    Murdoch was most definately capable of murder.

  36. mh

    Seems there is still a lot of interest in the Falconio murder mystery. Therefore…

  37. Bradley Murdoch was such a loose individual that even a local bikie gang kicked him out.

    What an absolute mad mad.

    Count Dankula should do a special presentation on him.

  38. Hamilton outdrives everybody in the wet, and maintains the courage of his convictions.

    Hamilton later celebrated his victory by raising a clenched right fist, reminiscent of when since American sprinters Tommie Smith and John Carlos did the same 52 years ago at the Mexico Olympic Games.

    “Some people were asking ‘how long do we have to continue to do this?’ Some felt like one was enough last week, and I just had to [tell] them that racism is going to be here for probably longer than our time here,” Hamilton, 35, said.

    “People of colour who are subject to racism don’t have time to [just] ‘take a moment’ to protest and that be it. We’ve got to continue to push for equality and raise awareness for it.

    “As a team we’re keeping the black [car colour] all year long, so we’re going to be fighting and pushing for it all year”.

  39. William the Conjuror

    the defeat of Germany in WWI

    Defeat? So, what was the Armistice about then?

  40. Nick

    People of colour who are subject to racism don’t have time to [just] ‘take a moment’ to protest and that be it. We’ve got to continue to push for equality

    Oh? So he isn’t allowed to race against whites and gets less prize money ?

  41. stackja

    Vandals Allegedly Target Statues of the Virgin Mary in Boston, Queens

    Two statues of the Virgin Mary were reportedly vandalized over the weekend in Boston, Massachusetts, and Queens, New York.
    At around 10:00 p.m. Saturday, officers responded to a call about a fire in the area of 284 Bowdoin Street in Dorchester, the Boston Police Department said in a Facebook post.

    In a similar instance on Friday, the Diocese of Brooklyn said the New York City Police Department (NYPD) was investigating the vandalization of another statue of the Virgin Mary at the Cathedral Prep School and Seminary in Queens.

    “Security footage shows an individual approaching the 100-year-old statue shortly after 3 a.m. Friday morning and daubing the word ‘IDOL’ down its length,” the Catholic News Agency (CNA) reported.

  42. Gab

    America is so racist they elected a black man to be president. Twice.

  43. Gab

    “Security footage shows an individual approaching the 100-year-old statue shortly after 3 a.m. Friday morning and daubing the word ‘IDOL’ down its length,” the Catholic News Agency (CNA) reported.

    Sounds like a Protestant.

  44. NoFixedAddress
    #3511410, posted on July 13, 2020 at 6:31 am
    Fuget about defund the cops.

    When will folk wake up and defund the judiciary.

    Quite frankly I think a call to legalise sedition is even edgier.

  45. Makka

    “People of colour who are subject to racism don’t have time to [just] ‘take a moment’ to protest and that be it. We’ve got to continue to push for equality and raise awareness for it.

    Yep, I bet Hamilton is deluged with racism while enjoys life in Monaco.

  46. “Security footage shows an individual approaching the 100-year-old statue shortly after 3 a.m. Friday morning and daubing the word ‘IDOL’ down its length,” the Catholic News Agency (CNA) reported.

    Sounds like a Protestant.

    They ought to do something about these extremists.

    Maybe a de-radicalisation programme to show their biblical errancy learnt from two bit preachers who haven’t seriously studied theology at all.

  47. JC

    Trades Hall, stop posting responses to numerous nuts. They are as boring as his ridiculous comments. Getting stuck into a sick old leftist is pathetic.

  48. America is so racist they elected a black man to be president. Twice.

    Despite the best efforts of the racists who claimed he wasn’t an American citizen, and was a Mus lim.
    The main perpetrator of one of these lies is the current POTUS.

    Here’s a laundry list of birther declarations Trump made before he tried to put the controversy to rest:
    1. “Why doesn’t he show his birth certificate? There’s something on that birth certificate that he doesn’t like.”
    – March 23, 2011, on “The View”
    2. “He’s spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I’ll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I’m starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country.”
    – March 28, 2011, on Fox News
    3. “He doesn’t have a birth certificate, or if he does, there’s something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me — and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be — that where it says ‘religion,’ it might have ‘Muslim.’ And if you’re a Muslim, you don’t change your religion, by the way.”
    – March 30, 2011, on The Laura Ingraham Show
    4. “I have people that have been studying [Obama’s birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they’re finding … I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can’t, if he can’t, if he wasn’t born in this country, which is a real possibility … then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics.”
    – April 7, 2011, on NBC’s “Today” show
    5. “His grandmother in Kenya said, ‘Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.’ She’s on tape. I think that tape’s going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting.”
    – April 7, 2011, on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”
    Note: On April 27, 2011, President Obama made public his long form birth certificate. The Trump campaign in his statement portrayed this as the event that resolved the situation.
    “Having successfully obtained President Obama’s birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States,” Miller said.
    But as the following comments demonstrate, whatever he thought personally, Trump continued to gin up birther issues for years after.
    6. “He didn’t know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said … He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia … Now they’re saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, ‘Oh, I mean Hawaii.’ Give me a break.”
    – May 24, 2012, interview with The Daily Beast’s Lloyd Grove, responding to an erroneous report about Obama
    7. “A lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. … Many people do not think it was authentic. His mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that came out. And frankly if you would report it accurately I think you’d probably get better ratings than you’re getting.”
    – May 29, 2012, to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer
    8. “An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that @BarackObama’s birth certificate is a fraud.”

    – August 6, 2012, in a tweet more than a year after Obama released his longform birth certificate
    9. “Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I’m saying I don’t know. Nobody knows.”
    – August 2013, to ABC News
    10. “How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s ‘birth certificate’ died in plane crash today. All others lived.”

    – December 12, 2013, in tweet about the death of Loretta Fuddy.
    11. “Well, I don’t know — did he do it? … Well, a lot of people don’t agree with you and a lot of people feel it wasn’t a proper certificate.”
    -May 2014, in an interview with TV3’s Colette Fitzpatrick in Ireland, Trump first contested whether Obama had released his birth certificate, then questioned whether its legitimacy.
    12. “There are three things that could happen. And one of them did happen. He was perhaps born in Kenya. Very simple, OK? He was perhaps born in this country. But said he was born in Kenya because if you say you were born in Kenya, you got aid and you got into colleges. People were doing that. So perhaps he was born in this country, and that has a very big chance. Or, you know, who knows?”
    – May 27, 2014, in remarks at the National Press Club
    13. “Who knows about Obama? … Who knows, who knows? Who cares right now?… I have my own theory on Obama. Someday I will write a book, I will do another book, and it will do very successfully.”
    – January 6, 2016, in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.
    14. “I’ll answer that question at the right time. I just don’t want to answer it yet … I don’t talk about it anymore. The reason I don’t is because then everyone is going to be talking about it as opposed to jobs, the military, the vets, security.”

    So which is it – Dettol Donny is a racist, or a liar?
    Your call…

  49. Bear Necessities

    A rich F1 racing driver complaining about how life sucks to be him due to his skin colour. If he believes in Equality he would then give wins to his competitors. Fat chance that!

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Top Ender might know more about this, but I was reading something the other day about how onerous the terms of Versaille were.

    Anyone who considers the terms of the Treaty of Versailles were onerous, needs to consult Fritz Fischer’s books on Imperial Germany’s war aims in 1914, based on research done in the archives of said Imperial Germany. Great Britain was to be stripped of her colonial empire and Navy, reduced to the status of a third rate power, and both Britain and France were to subjected to such crippling reparations that they would never pose a threat to Germany again.

  51. JC

    Says Brennan.

    If Durham is conducting a criminal investigation, it’s not clear what allegations of wrongdoing are being examined. The Justice Department has not detailed any, and a spokeswoman declined to comment for this story.

    “I don’t know what the legal basis for this is,” Brennan said, calling the probe “bizarre.”

  52. thefrollickingmole

    sTan grant, moving to full race pimp territory.

    Aided and promoted by their ABC.

    Black Like Me
    This is not a story for me. This is not something that I can break down with facts.

    This is not something that I can analyse, it isn’t about statistics or numbers.

    This is my life.

    Vomit bag at the ready as one of Australias privileged individuals assumes a group identity so he can wallow in self pity.

  53. Cassie of Sydney

    “sTan grant, moving to full race pimp territory.”

    Funny how he left his black wife for a white woman.

  54. Makka

    As if your opinion on anything matters numpty JC. STFU.

  55. Observing Morrison engaging in the idiotic elbow touching last night on TV was the final depressing straw.
    Mindless Tabloid Government. Ruled by Koshie.

  56. Boambee John

    The ingredients are present again – an expansionist Asian power, an increasingly isolationist and inward looking USA, and the rise of nationalism in Europe.
    It’s all there…

    Is the bin chicken ready to volunteer to fight the new fascism?

    Or will he call for the young to be conscripted to do the job?

  57. America is so racist they elected a black man to be president. Twice.

    Despite the best efforts of the racists who claimed he wasn’t an American citizen, and was a Mus lim.
    The main perpetrator of one of these lies is the current POTUS.

    Here’s a laundry list of birther declarations Trump made before he tried to put the controversy to rest:
    1. “Why doesn’t he show his birth certificate? There’s something on that birth certificate that he doesn’t like.”
    – March 23, 2011, on “The View”
    2. “He’s spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I’ll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I’m starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country.”
    – March 28, 2011, on Fox News
    3. “He doesn’t have a birth certificate, or if he does, there’s something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me — and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be — that where it says ‘religion,’ it might have ‘Mus lim.’ And if you’re a Mus lim, you don’t change your religion, by the way.”
    March 30, 2011, on The Laura Ingraham Show
    4. “I have people that have been studying [Obama’s birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they’re finding … I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can’t, if he can’t, if he wasn’t born in this country, which is a real possibility … then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics.”
    – April 7, 2011, on NBC’s “Today” show
    5. “His grandmother in Kenya said, ‘Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.’ She’s on tape. I think that tape’s going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting.”
    – April 7, 2011, on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”
    Note: On April 27, 2011, President Obama made public his long form birth certificate. The Trump campaign in his statement portrayed this as the event that resolved the situation.
    “Having successfully obtained President Obama’s birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States,” Miller said.
    But as the following comments demonstrate, whatever he thought personally, Trump continued to gin up birther issues for years after.
    6. “He didn’t know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said … He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia … Now they’re saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, ‘Oh, I mean Hawaii.’ Give me a break.”
    – May 24, 2012, interview with The Daily Beast’s Lloyd Grove, responding to an erroneous report about Obama
    7. “A lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. … Many people do not think it was authentic. His mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that came out. And frankly if you would report it accurately I think you’d probably get better ratings than you’re getting.”
    – May 29, 2012, to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer
    8. “An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that @BarackObama’s birth certificate is a fraud.”

    – August 6, 2012, in a tweet more than a year after Obama released his longform birth certificate
    9. “Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I’m saying I don’t know. Nobody knows.”
    – August 2013, to ABC News
    10. “How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s ‘birth certificate’ died in plane crash today. All others lived.”

    – December 12, 2013, in tweet about the death of Loretta Fuddy.
    11. “Well, I don’t know — did he do it? … Well, a lot of people don’t agree with you and a lot of people feel it wasn’t a proper certificate.”
    -May 2014, in an interview with TV3’s Colette Fitzpatrick in Ireland, Trump first contested whether Obama had released his birth certificate, then questioned whether its legitimacy.
    12. “There are three things that could happen. And one of them did happen. He was perhaps born in Kenya. Very simple, OK? He was perhaps born in this country. But said he was born in Kenya because if you say you were born in Kenya, you got aid and you got into colleges. People were doing that. So perhaps he was born in this country, and that has a very big chance. Or, you know, who knows?”
    – May 27, 2014, in remarks at the National Press Club
    13. “Who knows about Obama? … Who knows, who knows? Who cares right now?… I have my own theory on Obama. Someday I will write a book, I will do another book, and it will do very successfully.”
    – January 6, 2016, in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.
    14. “I’ll answer that question at the right time. I just don’t want to answer it yet … I don’t talk about it anymore. The reason I don’t is because then everyone is going to be talking about it as opposed to jobs, the military, the vets, security.”

    So which is it – Is Dettol Donny a racist, or a liar?
    Your call…

  58. JC

    Then continue boring everyone shirtless, trades hall.

  59. Finished watching the doco Outcry on Stan. 5 episodes. High school sports star sentenced to 25 years without parole on basis of evidence of one 4 year old.

    Everything that could go against him did. Lead Detective was a disgrace and basically no investigation done. Did not even visit the scene of the crime. The defence lawyer had a conflict of interest that helped another potential suspect. Not only that clearly not trying. No actual physical ID by child of the culprit. A DA not concerned with the lack of evidence. A Texas Ranger even makes an appearance to review the case and even that has a twist. Chief of Police and even Mayor and council were pathetic.

    Special mention goes to his 2nd lawyer, his girlfriend and a stranger who led his supporters group.

    Includes footage from children being interviewed and expert commentary on those interviews plus footage from trial and appeals.

    Was recommended by somebody who said there are a number of people you want to punch in the face as watching it. Very true. Well worth watching if like true crime type stuff.

  60. Funny how he left his black wife for a white woman.

    So what must his white lady think when he writes this stuff? Apologising for being white?
    I will tell you one thing Cassie and that is black women are the most racist beings on earth. The blokes aren’t bad either but FMD the ladies are downright harpies

  61. Cassie of Sydney

    “So which is it – Is Dettol Donny a racist, or a liar?”

    Unlike the bin chicken, President Trump is neither a racist nor a liar.

  62. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “I don’t know what the legal basis for this is,” Brennan said, calling the probe “bizarre.”

    is brennan still alive….

  63. Bruce of Newcastle

    America is so racist they elected a black man to be president. Twice.

    The Left is so racist that when a black man, Herman Cain, stood for the Republican candidacy he was torn apart for stuff much more trivial than what white man Joe Biden gets a free pass for.

  64. calli

    Sounds like a Protestant. Presbyterian.

    I have an alibi. Providence. 😊

  65. Makka

    The main perpetrator of one of these lies is the current POTUS.

    Lol. That bastion of socialist accuracy, CNN.

  66. cohenite

    Head prefect; so you don’t think we should respond to the vicious, rotten, vile troll?

  67. EvilElvis

    My step-sister was his girlfriend at the time of the Falconio disappearance and ultimately went to the NT Police which I understand was the breakthrough in the investigation.

    Sheeeit. That’s a bit close to home, custard.

  68. Mater

    Enough of using your father to push a position, Bob. You’ve previously deceived us about his service, in order to win arguments. You should leave him out of it.

    Smart move bypassing this ambush, Bob.
    Best judgement you’ve shown in a long time. Perhaps show some more and stop inferring others are liars. Glass houses and all.

  69. Shelley

    The University of Southern California School of Cinematic Arts has decided to remove an exhibit of iconic Western movie star John Wayne amid claims the actor represents “white supremacy.”

    Wonder how long it will be before someone notices that Nine Gem play many a John Wayne movie on a Saturday/Sunday arvo, along with many other classics (Apache) that would otherwise be smote by those woke elitists.

  70. Lol. That bastion of socialist accuracy, CNN.

    Every single one of Dettol Donny’s statements is on the record.

  71. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hope you didn’t miss this little gem.

    He left out ‘complaining about Vietnam’.

  72. Bruce in WA

    Bob, using CNN as a reliable, truthful source? Really?

  73. Bruce in WA

    Every single one of Dettol Donny’s statements is on the record.

    Exactly whose record??? CNN’s?

  74. Spider

    Boris Johnson who has already had Covid 19 is photographed wearing a mask. Can someone explain the point of this apart from setting an example. Can he catch it again. Can he pass it on again?

  75. Mater

    Every single one of Dettol Donny’s statements is on the record.

    So are yours.

  76. cohenite

    The troll has defended cambodia and the Nazis as well as always the commies; now it defends obuma, the most corrupt POTUS ever, even more than the clintons. I would put nothing past obuma and it is entirely predictable that a treasonous cur like the troll would defend him. Obuma is not fit to lick the boots of Trump but there you go, there’s no justice; if there were the troll would have caught the chunk virus.

  77. calli

    Hope you didn’t miss this little gem.

    Scroll down for many…many helpings of derangement.

  78. So are yours.

    Yep, but unlike Dettol Donny, I tell the truth.

  79. Infidel Tiger King

    Great news about Duda in Poland.

  80. calli

    Has Trump had any ambassadors killed yet?

    Until he does, he’s on the positive side of the ledger.

  81. Makka

    Every single one of Dettol Donny’s statements is on the record.

    It’s not Trump’s words that has commos like you shit scared. It’s his actions that matter. Women and blacks leaving the poisonous violent left will ensure he’s elected again. Proving you wrong yet again.

  82. Mater

    Yep, but unlike Dettol Donny, I tell the truth.

    Ok. Let’s play.

    1735099
    #2962329, posted on March 18, 2019 at 9:37 am

    My father enlisted in the RAAF whrn he heard to news of the Darwin bombing. He served in PNG from 1942 until 1946.

    True or false?

    1735099
    #3112787, posted on July 22, 2019 at 6:18 am

    This simple reading of history, together with the fact that very few Nashos signed up, is a clear measure of how much of a scam our commitment was, and how strongly patriotic Australians felt about it.
    Contrast that with WW2 when there was an existential threat from Japanese imperialism. My father enlisted in the RAAF ten days after Darwin was bombed.

    True or false?

  83. Exactly whose record??? CNN’s?

    The record of the transcripts of the interviews.
    Go back and check them out – dates and times are conveniently published.
    Google is your friend.

  84. Bruce in WA

    The record of the transcripts of the interviews.
    Go back and check them out – dates and times are conveniently published.
    Google is your friend.

    But that’s just another link to CNN.

    If they told me it was raining the first thing I’d do is put my hand out the window to check.

  85. Ed Case

    What must be remembered about Obama was that his mother was from a generational CIA family.
    Obama Sr. was a player in Kenyan politics at the time, so it’s reasonable to assume that A. Stanley Dunham returned to Kenya with him and gave birth there.
    She later shacked up with Lolo Suetoro, high ranking Indon Military figure, and gave birth to children in Indonesia. Barry was also in Indonesia with her.
    Now, John McCain wasn’t born in the U.S. either, but was eligible to run for Prexy because his father was serving the U.S. Navy in Panama at the time.
    It could be argued that Stanley Dunham was also serving U.S. interests, though clandestinely, and that gave Barry eligibility though born in Kenya.

  86. Farmer Gez

    EvilElvis
    #3511648, posted on July 13, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    My step-sister was his girlfriend at the time of the Falconio disappearance and ultimately went to the NT Police which I understand was the breakthrough in the investigation.

    Sheeeit. That’s a bit close to home, custard.

    Absolutely, more of the story please Custard.

    Commie Bob, go and have a rest old fella.

  87. cohenite

    Why hasn’t the troll been banned. It’s gluttonous self regard, subversiveness, lies and ugliness continually derail threads.

  88. Makka

    It could be argued that Stanley Dunham was also serving U.S. interests, though clandestinely, and that gave Barry eligibility though born in Kenya.

    It’s the Kenyan’s latter years that also are of significant interest. Those where he studied and embraced Marxism.

    https://www.realclearreligion.org/articles/2012/07/16/meet_obamas_marxist_mentor.html

  89. JC

    cohenite
    #3511647, posted on July 13, 2020 at 12:13 pm
    Head prefect; so you don’t think we should respond to the vicious, rotten, vile troll?

    Ignore the imbecile. The blog owner has asked people to ignore the idiot. Follow his wishes so show respect, you idiot.

  90. cohenite

    Ignore the imbecile.

    I can’t head prefect; the troll is like a dark stain which threatens to tarnish your shiny, atrichous arse. I fear your glowing buttocks may become irreversibly blotched if we don’t take urgent action against this blight which is the troll.

  91. EvilElvis

    The blokes aren’t bad either but FMD the ladies are downright harpies

    To be fair Black Ball, harpiness is colour blind. It truly is an equaliser.

  92. Nick

    Military Cats, what meaning is the nickname ‘bull’ in the RAR?

  93. I sat through the first 8 hours of Friedman on Saturday. Well done to them for pulling it together as an online event. But there was nothing for ‘nobody’s girl’, CCP-ASIO, or AG to become anxious about. It was universally (except Sinc naturally) a ‘hope over experience’ exercise in elegant academic theory entirely detached from the reality that the World faces.

    Very few even mentioned the marxist insurgency, and not one of the presenters could offer a meaningful way forward given the very real violent asssults on our liberty and livelihoods. Parallel reality.

    I am questioning now whether the buzz I gained from attending previous events wasn’t just a thrilling sense of being ‘edgy’, rather than having gained meaningful insights into an effective way of defending our liberty.

    One hilarious incident was when the very well informed woman discussing the CCP suddenly disappeared from the screen. When she eventually returned she announced that her cats were fighting. She gave a great presentation until she displayed her loony quotient by announcing that the CCP want Trump to win because they control him; and that the Secretary General should lead a delegation to investigate human rights in China.

    Hopefully, post Covid the event may become relevant and realistic.

  94. Boambee John

    Every single one of Dettol Donny’s statements is on the record.

    Even after multiple examples of deceptive editing by the MSM, the bin chicken still retains a simple (very simple) faith in their honesty.

  95. Boambee John

    Yep, but unlike Dettol Donny, I tell the truth.

    Here’s your chance.

    Was your father’s service number in the 400,000 series?

  96. Maj

    “Security footage shows an individual approaching the 100-year-old statue shortly after 3 a.m. Friday morning and daubing the word ‘IDOL’ down its length,” the Catholic News Agency (CNA) reported.

    Sounds like a Protestant.

    They ought to do something about these extremists.

    Maybe a de-radicalisation programme to show their biblical errancy learnt from two bit preachers who haven’t seriously studied theology at all.

    Murray Campbell has some food for thought:

    I may be an iconoclast, but I’m not a Philistine! Even Baptists can appreciate art and history. I love visiting Westminster Abbey and soaking up history and listening to exquisite music. Unfortunately, it’s not good theology that has finally caught up with the Church of England but woke culture that is forcing the arm of this now largely derelict institution. What a sad indictment on a church who ignored centuries of preachers and pastors calling for reforms.

    https://murraycampbell.net/2020/06/27/should-the-church-of-england-remove-its-images-of-jesus/

  97. notafan

    Why is it reasonable to assume that a middle class American who well knew citizenship laws would leave Hawaii and it’s first world medical service to give birth in Kenya.

    Just stupid.

  98. Boambee John

    Contrast that with WW2 when there was an existential threat from Japanese imperialism. My father enlisted in the RAAF ten days after Darwin was bombed.

    But, but, but, didn’t he enlist in 1939 to fight the nazis and fascists? Why the delay? Waiting for H1tler to invade the Soviet Union?

  99. JC

    One of the saddest things I’ve heard in a while. Waiting to be served, while observing social distancing, I heard sweet sounding older lady ordering lots of small portions. She told to store attendant she was stocking up for her hubby as she was going into hospital for cancer surgery.

    Life is tough and bad shit happens to good people.

  100. egg_

    Virus might be swirling through a subset of melbournians, who clearly don’t do social distancing within their community, but have always social distanced from the kaffir.

    Basic hygiene is probably a factor.

  101. True or false?

    Both statements are true, and the second simply repeats the first, with slightly more detail.
    I used his RAAF records to check dates at the time.

    You are a funny little man.

  102. egg_

    Boris Johnson who has already had Covid 19 is photographed wearing a mask. Can someone explain the point of this apart from setting an example. Can he catch it again. Can he pass it on again?

    IIRC our CMOs are now saying the masks are most effective in not sneezing/coughing outward, i.e. it catches a lot of the droplets.

  103. max

    Some Turkish responses to Erdogan’s takeover of Hagia Sophia are strongly approving.
    On SBS one veiled woman in Istanbul said the building was a symbol of ‘the conquest.’ Another bloke talked about ‘conquering’ though didn’t explain. And there was this:

    “Hagia Sophia is the symbol of conquest. It belongs to us”. — Yunus Genç, head of the Istanbul branch of the Anatolian Youth Association, Le Figaro, October 7, 2020.

    So true:

    When cartoons of Mo appeared in Danish and French newspapers in 2005, the Muesli world erupted in violence…. Now that Turkey is turning its formerly most important Christian monument into a mosque, there is no protest, only silence and mumbling, which are nothing but the soundtrack of the West’s submission to I****.

  104. William the Conjuror

    Joanne Lees

    Ms Lees — who Ms Gwynne describes as an amazing witness with an unbelievable recollection of events that she told with tears, laughter and fear

    Not how Lees was in the interview video shown last night, or in the re-enactment video. Quite the opposite.

  105. Herodotus

    Thomas Sowell is on Levin right now – Fox News. It’ll be repeated later, probably 4pm but their program has been made incorrect by inserting the Epstein special where Levin usually is.

  106. egg_

    Re the Falconio case being aired on 7, concluding next Sunday.
    Interesting reading the Wikipedia notes and comments on the case.
    The MSM mainly reported the Prosecution’s case, of course.
    Evidence ruled out due to contamination was Murdoch’s DNA on the ties around Lees’ hands – but it was also on the gearshift of the Kombi Van – i.e. he had likely driven it.
    Murdoch was placed at a McDonalds at 1pm of the day of the disappearance, along with Falconio and Lees.
    Witnesses place Falconio at Bourke 8 days later.
    The Defence’s case was one of faked murder to disappear with debts on the part of Falconio.

  107. Mater

    Both statements are true, and the second simply repeats the first, with slightly more detail.
    I used his RAAF records to check dates at the time.

    Are we really going to go there, Bob?
    You do realise that War Service Records are in the public domain on the web, don’t you?
    You do realise that such facts can be accessed on my iPad, without me removing my arse from the couch, don’t you?
    It might be worth admitting that you used quite a lot of ‘poetic licence’ in your previous statements about your Father’s service.
    I don’t really want to go there, but if you are going to regularly use your father (and his service) as a propaganda tool, you should to expect the facts to be checked.

  108. Boambee John

    Now that Turkey is turning its formerly most important Christian monument into a mosque, there is no protest, only silence and mumbling, which are nothing but the soundtrack of the West’s submission to I****.

    I hope that Pope Frank has the spine displayed by his predecessor about Cordoba (??) Cathedral. Frank saying a Mass there might send a useful message.

  109. egg_

    William the Conjuror
    #3511739, posted on July 13, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    Does this f-wit realise there are barristers and Cops who contribute to this blog?

  110. twostix

    Great Britain was to be stripped of her colonial empire and Navy, reduced to the status of a third rate power, and both Britain and France were to subjected to such crippling reparations that they would never pose a threat to Germany again.

    So what happened after WW2 then.

  111. egg_

    Cat poll: Joanne Lees guilty?

    Guilty of covering something up, in the very least.

    34 “inconsistencies”* and that’s according to the Prosecution!
    The independent Psychologist noted 45 “I don’t knows” during her testimony.

    *E.g. the Kombi Van had to be averaging 175 km/h!

  112. Was your father’s service number in the 400,000 series?

    His RAAF number had 5 digits, the first a “7” and the last a “4”.
    I wouldn’t disclose it on this site, even though he died back in 1991, because of the lowlives who post here and would try to take advantage.
    There are some very sick people who frequent this site.
    This recent comment on my blog sums it up well

    I love your work on the blog of doom. Hilarious and the fools at the leading libertarian and centre right blog continue to be unaware of how they reveal their problematic personalities.

    Some of them must have been badly abused as children to have grown into such sad and abusive people. One really wonders at the effort some of them go to to point out how bad other people are and be amazed at the effort they make to believe in their own superiority.

  113. Maj

    Now that Turkey is turning its formerly most important Christian monument into a mosque, there is no protest, only silence and mumbling, which are nothing but the soundtrack of the West’s submission to I****.

    Bibi and Trump should jointly announce the construction of a new Temple on the Temple Mount. And, like what the Left wants to do with statues, they should say what’s currently there will be moved to a museum so people will know it belongs to history, not in the present day, and not in the future.

  114. Makka

    There are some very sick people who frequent this site.

    Indeed. Does this sound like anyone posting here?;

    The paper—from University of British Columbia researchers Ekin Ok, Yi Qian, Brendan Strejcek, and Karl Aquino—details multiple studies the authors conducted on the subject. Their conclusion? Psychopathic, manipulative, and narcissistic people are more frequent signallers of “virtuous victimhood.

    From Black Ball’s linky;

    https://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2020/07/and-this-is-your-shocked-face.html

  115. I don’t really want to go there, but if you are going to regularly use your father (and his service) as a propaganda tool, you should to expect the facts to be checked.

    As I wrote above.
    You are a funny (and obsessive) little man.
    I have a wonderful mental picture of you going through the archives feverishly trying to find my dad’s records to find something to discredit me through my father’s service.
    Reminds me of people who go through garbage looking for something vaguely incriminating.
    That would be about your style.

    My dad would have appreciated the funny side.
    It’s a shame I can’t share it with him.

  116. Old School Conservative

    Who to believe?
    Next month the ALP will have the opportunity to force either Foreign Minister Senator Marise Payne or Defence Minister Senator Linda Reynolds into admitting they misled the parliament of Australia.

    Each have made blatantly conflicting statements to parliament about the cost of Australia’s submarine contract with the French. Only one can be right. (Gottliebsen in The Australian)

    Payne – about $20 billion dollars in 2016 dollars.
    Reynolds – about $50 billion dollars in 2016 dollars.

    Both are ministerial statements.
    I believe neither.

  117. William the Conjuror

    “its formerly most important Christian monument” had fallen into disrepair under the Byzantine Empire, long before the Ottomans took over Turkey in 1453.

  118. cohenite

    When cartoons of Mo appeared in Danish and French newspapers in 2005, the Muesli world erupted in violence…. Now that Turkey is turning its formerly most important Christian monument into a mosque, there is no protest, only silence and mumbling, which are nothing but the soundtrack of the West’s submission to I****.

    Yep, it doesn’t matter whether its the left or the RoP the West’s leaders will cave because they’ve been cowered by the mob.

    Is the troll dead yet?

  119. Tim Neilson

    Both are ministerial statements.
    I believe neither.

    I’d say “per submarine” would get both of them closer to the truth.

  120. egg_

    mh
    #3511327, posted on July 12, 2020 at 11:00 pm
    This looks thorough

    Saw that a while back – a bunch of f-wits thinking with their dicks – 4 blokes, not a single female.
    IIRC I posted a good video a while back by a top FBI interrogator who showed how it’s done – likened to a poker game, with few “tells”, especially the alleged “body language” tells.

  121. Mater

    I have a wonderful mental picture of you going through the archives feverishly trying to find my dad’s records to find something to discredit me through my father’s service.
    Reminds me of people who go through garbage looking for something vaguely incriminating.
    That would be about your style.

    My dad would have appreciated the funny side.
    It’s a shame I can’t share it with him.

    Do you think he would appreciate you misrepresenting his service, because you have. It’s very sad.
    As for discrediting you, you have fabricated facts, dates and timelines to fit in with your various arguments over the last 12 months. You discredit yourself, and do a disservice to his record. If he was a man of integrity, I don’t really think he’d see the funny side.

  122. Tim Neilson

    “its formerly most important Christian monument” had fallen into disrepair under the Byzantine Empire, long before the Ottomans took over Turkey in 1453.

    Well, centuries of non-stop warfare against psychopathic genocidal invaders will do that to a “culture” budget.

  123. Do you think he would appreciate you misrepresenting his service, because you have. It’s very sad.

    Show me where I have “misrepresented his service”.
    You are a funny little man.

  124. notafan

    William thinks the Byzantines voted in a new Ottoman Empire government.

    Just like that.

  125. egg_

    vehicle identified in the area

    Not a shred of evidence of Falconio in Murdoch’s vehicle.

  126. Old School Conservative

    From the sidelines, it appears to me that Mater shows more respect to Numbers’ father than Numbers himself.

  127. 132andBush

    Reminds me of people who go through garbage…

    Going through garbage? That’s for sure.

  128. notafan

    Please don’t demand that the Pope or the Catholic church show those darn m uslins!

    Pope Francis is very conscious of the precarious position of minority Christians in the ME.

    The matyred Father Andrea Santoro was a victim of such hatred after the Danish cartoon fiasco.

    Catholic Church doesn’t command an army.

  129. egg_

    Murdoch’ vehicle identified in the area and Murdoch look alike pretty much identified on CCTV 5 hours later

    According to Lees’ timeline, which was proven to be “inconsistent” by corroborating witnesses placing her at the scene hours later?

  130. Mater

    Let me be VERY clear up front. I am NOT criticising or demeaning your father’s service. Just your misrepresenting of it on this blog, for political purposes.
    His service is worthy of praise.

    1735099
    #2962329, posted on March 18, 2019 at 9:37 am

    My father enlisted in the RAAF whrn he heard to news of the Darwin bombing. He served in PNG from 1942 until 1946.
    He fought Fascist Imperialism. In your book, that probably makes him a Communist.

    1735099
    #3112787, posted on July 22, 2019 at 6:18 am

    This simple reading of history, together with the fact that very few Nashos signed up, is a clear measure of how much of a scam our commitment was, and how strongly patriotic Australians felt about it.
    Contrast that with WW2 when there was an existential threat from Japanese imperialism. My father enlisted in the RAAF ten days after Darwin was bombed.

    Let’s deal with the multitude of fabrications and misassumptions, one at a time.

    My father enlisted in the RAAF whrn (sic) he heard to news of the Darwin bombing.

    His APPLICATION letter to the CO of No.3 RAAF Recruiting Unit, including all completed forms/paperwork, certificates and a signed letter from the Principal of the College he attended, was dated 19th Feb 1942 (the very day of the bombing of Darwin). Putting aside the fact that the bombing was only announced to the country that night (by Curtin), that your father had all these forms and paperwork available, and filled out, indicates that he was volunteering prior to the bombing. The dates coinciding, is purely coincidental.

    He served in PNG from 1942 until 1946.

    No. He served in PNG from July 1943 to Dec 1944. A total of 1 year and 4 months.

    This simple reading of history, together with the fact that very few Nashos signed up, is a clear measure of how much of a scam our commitment was, and how strongly patriotic Australians felt about it.
    Contrast that with WW2 when there was an existential threat from Japanese imperialism.

    As shown above, your father intended to VOLUNTEER prior to Darwin being bombed. As for his decision being based on an existential threat from Japanese Imperialism, he initially VOLUNTEERED as aircrew for the Empire Air Scheme, which would have seen him flying in Europe, not defending the homeland.

    My father enlisted in the RAAF ten days after Darwin was bombed.

    Your fathers official ENLISTMENT date is 6 August 1942, a whole 168 days after Darwin was bombed.
    Even if we took your meaning to be when he actually VOLUNTEERED to serve (initial application), your ‘ten days’ is still a fabrication.

  131. egg_

    Reminds me of people who go through garbage looking for something vaguely incriminating.

    Some of us are “forensic” type investigators in our daily jobs: those who can, do – those who can’t…

  132. notafan

    Incidentally Cordoba Cathedral started life as a Visigoth Catholic church, was converted and altered by al-Rahman and returned to Christian use in 1236.

    Nearly all ancient churches in Spain would have gone through that process, although the church tended to demolish and rebuild after the reconquista to erase any doubt and basis for I slamic demands.

    They had a very good understanding of I slamic victimhood back then.

    Hagia Sophia was used as a mosque for centuries, and was previously the centre of Eastern Orthodox Christianity so perhaps demands to do this or that should be directed at the Orthodox.

  133. Fisky

    Good to see the liberal degenerates cop a thumping in Poland.

  134. Ed Case

    Why is it reasonable to assume that a middle class American who well knew citizenship laws would leave Hawaii and it’s first world medical service to give birth in Kenya.

    The Dunham family was generational OSS/CIA. Obama’s granny signed off the books for Nugan Hand Bank in her role as a Bank Vice President in Hawaii.
    What’s the big deal over citizenship laws?
    Are you suggesting Barry had been tapped as a future President while still in the womb?

    First world medical service?

    No first world medical services for CIA workers in Nairobi, is that what you’re saying?

    … to give birth in Kenya

    Following Obama Sr. back to Kenya was part of Stanley Dunham’s job.

  135. cohenite

    Mater
    #3511779, posted on July 13, 2020 at 2:08 pm

    Thanks for your efforts. They will be wasted. The troll is here for malice. The troll is a leftie: lying and conniving is a lefty’s stock in trade but such is their arrogance and vanity they never consider they do wrong. I suppose they don’t since their aim is power by what ever means. I really don’t know why it is tolerated.

  136. cohenite

    What’s the big deal over citizenship laws?

    I agree ed, we don’t have to chase obuma’s membership of the RoP; obuma’s crookedness has so many manifestations why guild the lily.

  137. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bibi and Trump should jointly announce the construction of a new Temple on the Temple Mount.”

    If not construction of a new temple…the least the Israelis could do is close the mosques down and leave them as museums. That would put a spanner in the works of the Muesli world.

    When the old city was captured by Israel in 67, all the synagogues, yeshivas and cemeteries in the old city had been vandalised and destroyed by the Jordanians. Torah scrolls had been torn up and the Joooooish cemetery used as a toilet. And of course, Jooos weren’t allowed to pray at the western wall.

  138. notafan

    Ed

    Did Obama’s father work for the CiA? His mother?

    AObama’s mother was only eighteen when she had him, so please go on with the CIA agent stuff.

    One doesn’t have to have presidential aspirations to prefer your child to have crystal clear American citizenship.

    There is no evidence that Obama’s parents returned to Kenya for his birth, or any reason why they would prefer him to be a Kenyan citizen.

    Nugan hand bank

    Born in Kenya

    That’s a truly awesome connection.

  139. Mitch M:

    Have you tried Krystexxa? Should be available in Aus by now. FDA approved 2015.

    Certainly looks interesting – the removal of the crystals already formed look like a big positive indicator. The One in four severe allergic reactions looks like a need for a four hour stay in a High Dependency Unit.

    Since one out of every four patients in the clinical trials experienced a severe allergic reaction when receiving an infusion of Krystexxa, health care providers should dispense a corticosteroid and an antihistamine to their patients beforehand to minimize the risk of such a reaction. Other reactions during the clinical trials included gout flare, nausea, injection site bruising, irritation of the nasal passages, constipation, chest pain and vomiting.

    Thanks for that Mitch M, I’ll have a word to the doc next time…

  140. egg_

    Falconio was in Bourke: witnesses

    TWO witnesses testified yesterday that they saw British backpacker Peter Falconio in the NSW outback town of Bourke eight days after he was allegedly murdered in 2001.

    Robert Brown and his partner, service station attendant Melissa Kendall, told the Supreme Court in Darwin that they recognised Mr Falconio from photographs published in newspapers when he bought a soft drink at a service station in the town.

    Joan Falconio walked angrily from the court as Mr Brown recalled how he and the man he said was her son had a brief conversation in the service station on July 22, 2001.

  141. notafan

    Obama senior was a sponsored student at the University of Hawaii, then Harvard and returned to Kenya in 1964.

    I imagine his education is a matter of public record.

    Floating these absurdities here is to make the blog look more overrun by loonies than normal.

  142. egg_

    Couple recount ‘Falconio’ sighting

    Robert Brown told the court he’d been working out back in the kitchen, when Melissa Kendall came in and said the man in the newspaper had come into the shop.

    She’d shown him the picture in the paper before he went to see for himself.

    He told the court “I seen the bloke that looked exactly like it was in the paper with a little scab on his lip, and yeah it was just him”.

    “Who served him?”, the prosecutor Anthony Elliott asked.

    “I served peter Falconio myself,” he said.

    “Did you speak to him at all?”, he was asked.

    “Oh very briefly”. He replied. “I was too much in shock to do too much.”

    Mr Brown was then shown a photo of Falconio, and he said, “That’s old mate there, that’s him”.

    The man in question he said was about 170 centimetres tall, of fairly solid build, with short blondish beach-coloured hair.

    Asked if he’d had an accent he said, “Well I thought he had a slight one, but nothing that really stood out that much.”

    After the man had paid he said, he followed him outside for a sticky beak, and saw him with another man who was slightly taller with shoulder length hair, and a woman. All three were travelling in a four-wheel-drive with a rear tray, he said, that looked as if it had been painted dark green, in a very rough paint job.

    A dog was in the rear tray, he said, sitting on top of their luggage.

    In her evidence, Melissa Kendall said she’d had a feeling when the man first came into the shop, and when his male companion came in two minutes later she got scared.

    “I didn’t recognise him until the second guy came in”, she said, “That’s when it started to become very strange.”

    “I was quite scared,” she said, “I didn’t say too much ‘cos I felt uncomfortable, I wanted to get him out of there straight away”.

    She too followed the pair outside, and saw the same four-wheel-drive, but she was too shocked she said to take much notice. “I just couldn’t believe what was happening”, she said. “I thought it was them”.

    Melissa Kendall too was shown Falconio’s photo, and said the man in the picture was identical to the man she’d served.

    Robert Brown said the man he believed was Peter Falconio was in no way anxious or upset, and apart from the injury to his lip appeared to be in good health.

    The committal hearing is expected to wrap up by the end of the week when magistrate Alasdair McGregor could announce whether 45-year-old Bradley John Murdoch will stand trial for Falconio’s murder.

  143. JC

    Listening to something earlier.
    It would have to be viewed as more anecdotal than anything else as I don’t think it was performed in a sciency way.
    Someone took a poll of GOP voters asking if they divulge their support of the Orange Oaf. 60%..!! 60% said they either lie straight about supporting him or lie through omission.

    I don’t know what that means in terms of the regular polls, which has the nursing home resident with an approximate 8 point lead (in some polls), but Trump would have to have (simply) 4% of that spread the two would be equal.

    If this is correct then, Trump is in the lead by a decent margin….. I think.

  144. Boambee John

    His RAAF number had 5 digits, the first a “7” and the last a “4”.

    That answers my question. He wasn’t aircrew.

  145. Boambee John

    Reminds me of people who go through garbage looking for something vaguely incriminating.

    But enough about bin chickens!

  146. His service is worthy of praise.

    Of course it is.

    He fought Fascist Imperialism. In your book, that probably makes him a Communist.

    You would have no idea of his motives.

    Contrast that with WW2 when there was an existential threat from Japanese imperialism. My father enlisted in the RAAF ten days after Darwin was bombed.

    To be honest, I doubt that dad was too interested in the nature of the threat, but he knew it was existential. Contrast that with 1965 – 1972, as he often did.

    His APPLICATION letter to the CO of No.3 RAAF Recruiting Unit, including all completed forms/paperwork, certificates and a signed letter from the Principal of the College he attended, was dated 19th Feb 1942 (the very day of the bombing of Darwin). Putting aside the fact that the bombing was only announced to the country that night (by Curtin), that your father had all these forms and paperwork available, and filled out, indicates that he was volunteering prior to the bombing. The dates coinciding, is purely coincidental.

    The family narrative has always been that his decision to enlist was prompted by the bombing of Darwin, perhaps rationalised by the coinciding dates.
    You would have far less of an idea of his motives than his six offspring, irrespective of the timelines. He had a lot to lose – a new marriage, and a new career, so perhaps he (and my mother) did a bit of rationalisation after the event. My mother was despondent, although she rose to the occasion and took over his school.
    Go back to his records, old mate, and find the letter my mother wrote on his behalf when he was suffering from conjunctivitis and couldn’t write himself.

    It matters not – his service was offered and accepted.
    He volunteered for aircrew, but was rejected on medical grounds. That was probably fortunate, because had he been aircrew in Europe, his chances of survival would have been lowered considerably. He ended up LAC in New Guinea, fitting and servicing radios in Kittyhawks amongst other aircraft.

    This simple reading of history, together with the fact that very few Nashos signed up, is a clear measure of how much of a scam our commitment was, and how strongly patriotic Australians felt about it.
    Contrast that with WW2 when there was an existential threat from Japanese imperialism.

    And contrast that with my father’s decisions in WW2, and why he was livid about conscription for Vietnam.

    As shown above, your father intended to VOLUNTEER prior to Darwin being bombed. As for his decision being based on an existential threat from Japanese Imperialism, he initially VOLUNTEERED as aircrew for the Empire Air Scheme, which would have seen him flying in Europe, not defending the homeland.

    Again, that has nothing to do with his motives. And again, it was fortunate that he finished up fighting closer to home.

    Your fathers official ENLISTMENT date is 6 August 1942, a whole 168 days after Darwin was bombed.
    Even if we took your meaning to be when he actually VOLUNTEERED to serve (initial application), your ‘ten days’ is still a fabrication

    No it is not.
    You are, as usual, making a whole heap of assumptions.
    One thing is crystal clear.
    He volunteered because he knew his country was under threat.
    I was conscripted when it was not.
    He took his resentment about that to his grave, and resigned a twenty year membership of the RSL in 1970 in protest.
    Quite a few ex-service men shared those sentiments in 1970, and two years later, it was reflected in the ballot box.
    It is one of the reasons my extended family (and there are lots of us – 21 grandchildren) – are solid Labor or Green voters.

    That you for going to the trouble of digging up his records and confirming his history.
    I am very proud of him – a man who called Menzies “Pig Iron Bob” and Churchill that “rotten old drunk”.
    He revered Curtin.

  147. JC

    Eggles

    Why has the Falconio thing come back again?

  148. thefrollickingmole

    Calls Churchill a drunk….
    reveres Curtin….

    We need to get Hinch in the big chair as quickly as possible then, alcoholism appears to be great for times of crisis.

    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/john-curtin-the-leader-who-turned-australia-to-the-united-states-20171122-gzqc46
    This consuming, Edwards-driven, OBI partly explains what has made this a highly unusual, and unusually great, biography. It’s a two-volume effort – Volume 2 has already been completed and will be published next year. In Volume 1 Edwards writes perceptively about the early Curtin years. This is a time of struggle, left-wing agitation, depression, hypochondria and bouts of alcoholism.

    Also lost in the ironying is the subtitle
    john-curtin-the-leader-who-turned-australia-to-the-united-states

  149. 1735099

    FIA has pledged $1 million to BLM after the GP at Steiermark yesterday won by Hamilton who gave the black power salute on the podium.

  150. Mater

    Bob, you left out this:

    He served in PNG from 1942 until 1946.

    Which he didn’t. A Stat Dec in his very own hand, attests to this.

    His enlistment date is, most definitely, 6 Aug 1942, so he didn’t enlist “in the RAAF ten days after Darwin was bombed”.

    How do you reconcile all this with:

    Yep, but unlike Dettol Donny, I tell the truth.

    Fill up the page with outrageous outrage all you want, you have been fabricating details around his service.

  151. Ed Case

    Did Obama’s father work for the CiA? His mother?

    Barry’s father was involved in Kenyan politics at the time.
    His mother was born into an OSS/CIA family.

    AObama’s mother was only eighteen when she had him, so please go on with the CIA agent stuff.

    The CIA exists, notafan. It’s not a big secret. Oftentimes, it’s a family affair. The Dunham family is into the 3rd generation.

    One doesn’t have to have presidential aspirations to prefer your child to have crystal clear American citizenship.

    He’s got American Citizenship anyway.
    Whether he is a Natural Born Citizen, which is a requirement to run for President is another matter.
    It’s very likely that he was born in Kenya as Trump asserted

    There is no evidence that Obama’s parents returned to Kenya for his birth, or any reason why they would prefer him to be a Kenyan citizen.

    Clearly Stanley Dunham’s job was to stick close to Obama Sr. So, if Sr. traveled back to Kenya sometime during the pregnancy, Dunham must have accompanied him.

    Nugan hand bank

    Born in Kenya

    That’s a truly awesome connection.

    Granny Dunham definitely signed off on Nugan Hand as part of her Honolulu job, that’s not in dispute and can be easily verified.
    Barry born in Kenya?
    Wellll, Obama Sr. doing a bunk on his daddy obligations isn’t that far fetched and Stanley staying right on his tail isn’t unlikely either.

    Winston Smith

  152. Boambee John

    notafan
    #3511783, posted on July 13, 2020 at 2:14 pm
    Incidentally Cordoba Cathedral started life as a Visigoth Catholic church, was converted and altered by al-Rahman and returned to Christian use in 1236.

    My reference to Cordoba goes back to a report some years ago of a senior imam at a meeting with Benedict, expressing the hope that at some stage Cordoba could revert to being a mosque. The reported response from Benedict was a wish to again hear the Angelus ringing through Hagia Sophia.

    Benedict simply reminded the imam that there were unrequited desires on both sides. Subtle but effective, followed by a change of subject.

  153. Tim Neilson

    I was conscripted when it was not.
    He took his resentment about that to his grave

    Haven’t you said in the past that the reason you went along with being conscripted was to avoid conflict with your father?
    Now you’re saying he resented you being conscripted?

  154. Ed Case

    Winston Smith?
    We’re in Frootloop territory now.

  155. Struth

    The publican at Barrow Creek, Uncle Les as we called him, told me at the time she was a strange little bitch and after all they had done for her, put her up and fed her etc , and basically took her in, sheltered her from the media as best they could that had flown in, she couldn’t have given a shit, said thank you and treated many helping her with contempt.
    I was playing in Bojangles in Alice about five nights a week and went in to get paid during the day, and she was sitting in the pub, this was only days after, and laughing her tits orf with a heap of girlfriends.

    I haven’t got a clue what happened.
    Mate of mine was his prison guard for some time, and says he always claimed he was innocent……as they do.

    I am suspicious of some of the bullshit, like phone calls, even now there is no coverage much and less then.
    I assume they were both stoned like many backpackers are and on long boring drives, and when driving like spastics frustrated our old drug trafficking mate he pulled them over and then went through the van for their stash, noticing how bent they were.
    A bit of a fight occurred and Peter lost, badly.
    It would explain the vague recollections, but hey, it’s just a theory.

  156. JC

    Bob Unanue must have missed the memo: If you’re invited to the White House to take part in an innocuous policy event, make sure you say nothing nice about the building’s current resident.

    On Thursday Mr. Unanue, CEO of Goya Foods, spoke at the launch of the White House Hispanic Prosperity Initiative and announced the company’s donation of a million cans of chickpeas to America’s food banks.

    “Today, it gives me great honor,” he said, before interrupting himself—“and, by the way, we’re all truly blessed at the same time to have a leader like President Trump who is a builder. And that’s what my grandfather did: He came to this country to build, to grow, to prosper. And so we have an incredible builder, and we pray—we pray for our leadership, our President, and we pray for our country that we will continue to prosper and to grow.”

    Progressive VIPs lit up social media with denunciations and calls for a boycott of Goya, the largest Hispanic-owned food company in the country. Much of the press, meanwhile, treated the episode as if Mr. Unanue had broken some unspoken code—the assumption being that all Hispanic Americans must hold the same, media-approved opinion of Donald Trump.

    Mr. Unanue, whose family emigrated to the United States from Spain in the 1930s, reminded his critics that he had participated in similar events with Barack and Michelle Obama. His remarks to President Trump only appear partisan through the jaundiced lens of resistance progressivism: He was offering polite words of commendation to his host, the President of the United States. But such are the paranoid times in which we live.

    Many other corporate leaders, facing such boycott threats, would by now have issued three or four equivocal apologies and thus emboldened the mob to demand more groveling. Not Mr. Unanue. “I’m not apologizing,” he said on Friday. And why should he?

    His products are apparently flying off the shelves.

  157. Herodotus

    Joanne Lees was, and might still be, incredibly sexy.

  158. Struth

    Lefty logic.
    If you want to have a nation you are a racist.
    In their twisted minds it means you only want one race in it.
    If you want a nation with any race or every race in it, but love the democracy it enables and therefore the freedom and peace it gives ……you are a NAZI.

    Nazis were fought by men in national uniforms fighting for their nations.
    Nationalism wasn’t the evil in the Nazi party.
    Socialism was the evil.
    As it always is.
    It was fought by nationalists all.

  159. Makka

    He revered Curtin.

    Who un-banned the Australian Communist Party. It’s a family trait apparently.

  160. Struth

    Also in that area there is a very problematic aboriginal camp, like the usual ones out there, descendants of the attackers and murderers of the telegraph station staff in the early days.
    They hang around the Barrow Creek pub and stuff around in the scrub all around there.
    Taking that into consideration the place it was meant to happen , just out of Barrow Creek, isn’t as isolated from other humans as you may think.

  161. Ed Case

    The propaganda war against Americans during Trump’s presidency has been unrelenting.
    So, it’s reasonable to assume that some of his 2016 voters will stay home in hopes that the end of Trump means the end of conflict.
    One suggestion is that there won’t be a high turnout on November 3 and that the key is discouraging turnout for the other side.
    In Trump’s favor is that while he riled the Mexican Americans back in 2016, he’s taken no action on the Wall or on taxing remittances to Mexico.
    On the other hand, Mex-Ams don’t feel connected to BLM, so they’ve got a good reason to sit it out.
    Same for blacks, they won’t vote for him, but they don’t have to.
    All they’ve got to do is stay home and Joe is fucked.
    Bottom line, don’t write the TrumpenFuehrer off yet.
    It’s possible that the last 3.5 years have been spent on strategy to win a Second Term.

  162. MatrixTransform

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/07/08/up-and-at-them-cats-wind-running-at-2-2-capacity

    Thank you for contacting Tim on this matter.

    I wish to advise you that I have raised your concerns with Tim, and will be reaching out to the office of the Minister for Energy, Environment and Climate Change to raise your concerns with them too.

    Thank you again for your email, and please take care and stay safe.

  163. cohenite

    So, it’s reasonable to assume that some of his 2016 voters will stay home in hopes that the end of Trump means the end of conflict.

    FMD.

  164. JC

    Cronkers

    If you were going to estimate the number of shy GOP voters, what percentage of the vote do you reckon it is? For one, I reckon the shy black voter could be considerably higher than 16.. if Kanye doesn’t run. If Kenye actually does run the vote margin for the orange oaf could be big.

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rather more likely that lots of centre-left voters will stay home rather than vote for a corrupt senile white guy who gropes women on TV.

  166. JC

    The propaganda war against Americans during Trump’s presidency has been unrelenting.
    So, it’s reasonable to assume that some of his 2016 voters will stay home in hopes that the end of Trump means the end of conflict.

    Head case, you have zero understanding nor appreciation of human nature and motivation. You’re like a Turing machine gone haywire. STFU.

  167. Mitch M.

    This came up on my youtube feed. I must live a sheltered life because I can’t recall anyone acting like these people. I admire the patience of others because if I did encounter these people I’d be sorely tempted to start smacking them about the head.

  168. JC

    Rather more likely that lots of centre-left voters will stay home rather than vote for a corrupt senile white guy who gropes women on TV.

    I dunno Bruce, but I think its a reasonable assumption to make that people will be very energized in this election on both sides.

    The Right voters will be very energetic for a host of reasons while the left hate Trump and would prefer a turnip to the Orange oaf. They got their turnip in Biden.

  169. Hodge Twins on Don Lenin’s *you don’t black!* screed against manly man, funny guy and all round legend Terry Crews.

    Yep, now “Conservative Twins”

  170. JC

    FMD

    One of the most adorable gals in Hollywood for the past few decades has died. Kelly Preston, who really did look a lot like Grace Kelly is finito.

  171. Makka

    On the other hand, Mex-Ams don’t feel connected to BLM, so they’ve got a good reason to sit it out.

    Trump has not lost a single vote since 2016 in the Latino demographic. Whereas there are plenty of reasons why Latinos have every motivation to want 4 more years of Trump. In fact,even left wing rags like The Atlantic are being forced to admit Latino support for Trump has improved;

    Latino Support for Trump Is Real
    And that’s a problem for Democrats.

    President Donald Trump has done almost everything he can to anger Latino voters. And yet, his support among this crucial portion of the electorate remains surprisingly consistent. After the 2016 election, exit polls analyzed by the Pew Research Center showed that 28 percent of Latino voters supported Trump; today, 30 percent support him.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/latino-support-trump-problem-democrats/606613/

  172. custard

    Okay so my step-sis has made some shocking decisions when it comes to partners and Bradley Murdoch was just the next in a line of mistakes.

    They were living in Broome at the time and she rang my step-mother to talk about what she suspected and after many weeks of exchanges etc. she finally made contact with NT Police. I cant recall whether she went to the NT or they came here.

  173. Mitch let’s win that Nobel Prize.

    L. Sedition, M. M., 2020. “KARENISM AND TOXOPLASMA GONDII”, Catallaxy Press.

  174. JC

    Leftwing dirtbags run boycotts against legit businesses to put them out of business. Righties run Buy-COTTS.

    Many took to social media to express their displeasure with Goya Foods CEO Robert Unanue after he praised President Trump at a White House event on Thursday, but others are flipping the narrative and calling for a Goya Foods “buy-cott.”

    GOYA FOODS SLAMMED BY AOC, CELEBRITIES AFTER CEO PRAISES TRUMP

    “My brother came up with a terrific idea and I am encouraging all to join me in purchasing $10 worth of Goya Foods products and donating them to your local food bank,” self-described “conservatarian” radio host Mike Opelka wrote on Twitter. “Let’s push a BUY-cott, not a boycott. Let’s show the #Goyaway people what compassion can do.

  175. notafan

    My recollection too Tim Neilson.

    Lots of young men volunteered in ww11, my neighbour left behind a young wife and three very little children and had a major battle with his employer to be released.

    All knew the risks.

    My father and his brother volunteered for the RAAF because death was less likely than the army, their brother fighting hand to hand in New Guinea would have made them very aware of that. Dad was quite clear about that motivation to join the RAAF.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else’s father chose the RAAF path for the same reason.

    With conscription for all into the CMF it was a smart move.

  176. JC

    I says sell it. Give it away even. Puerto Rican National Day in NYC is a complete abortion. Trump lived on 5th, and I’m guessing he wants to get rid of it for the parade day alone.

    Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump considered the idea of selling Puerto Rico in 2017 after the island was devastated by Hurricane Maria, the former acting Homeland Security secretary told The New York Times in an interview published Friday.
    “The President’s initial ideas were more of as a businessman, you know,” Elaine Duke, who was serving as DHS’ acting secretary when the hurricane hit the island in September 2017, told the Times.
    “‘Can we outsource the electricity? Can we can we sell the island? You know, or divest of that asset?'” Trump reportedly said, according to Duke in the newspaper interview. “(She said the idea of selling Puerto Rico was never seriously considered or discussed after Mr. Trump raised it.),” the paper reported.

    Trump has had a fraught history with the US territory since Puerto Rico was devastated by Hurricane Maria. Nearly 3,000 people died as a result of the storm and aftereffects, including widespread power outages.

  177. William the Conjuror

    My reference to Cordoba goes back to a report some years ago of a senior imam at a meeting with Benedict, expressing the hope that at some stage Cordoba could revert to being a mosque. The reported response from Benedict was a wish to again hear the Angelus ringing through Hagia Sophia.

    Benedict simply reminded the imam that there were unrequited desires on both sides. Subtle but effective, followed by a change of subject.

    Have never heard of that. Where was it reported?

  178. Ed Case

    Trump has not lost a single vote since 2016 in the Latino demographic.

    lol
    Trump drew 28% 0f a low turnout.
    No latinos for Trump have died since 2016? Do yourself a favor …
    Latino turnout isn’t great, where it is, they’re pre Castro Cubans and vote R.
    Battleground this time is NM, Nevada, Arizona, where they’re Mexicans, 28% of Mexicans don’t vote R.
    As i said, Trump’s strategy is they stay home.
    At the moment that looks like a winner.

  179. rafiki

    Egg at 2.34

    The identifications (and in particular the second one) made by Brown are just about useless, being, as they were, based on a photograph of Falconio alone, and not as a one of a group of photos of other men (a photo board). The High Court has accepted that in such cases there is a significant danger that the witness (Brown) will transfer the image in the photo he was shown to the face of the person her saw in the shop. The Evidence Acts have provisions that are based on the high Court’s reasoning.

    I would not be surprised if the magistrate did not allow the evidence in. Do you know what the magistrate did?

  180. Yep, but unlike Dettol Donny, I tell the truth.

    Fill up the page with outrageous outrage all you want, you have been fabricating details around his service.

    That is bullshit. The details you obsess over are insignificant.
    I have simply repeated the family narrative.
    His service, as you discovered, is real, as were his attitudes towards WW2 and Vietnam.
    His experience, and mine, is probably partly the reason why two members of my extended family were endorsed Labor candidates during the past couple of elections, both state and federal.
    The decisions made by the Coalition between 1965 and 1972 have come back to bite them on the bum, as far as generations of my family are concerned.
    It’s the Irish in us – we’re a bit tribal. Stuff one of us around, and you take on the whole clan.

    Haven’t you said in the past that the reason you went along with being conscripted was to avoid conflict with your father?
    Now you’re saying he resented you being conscripted?

    The two concepts are completely compatible – unless you are a Catallaxy regular, of course, incapable of dealing with more than one idea at a time.
    My father deeply resented conscription, but gave me sound advice.
    He put it as “bend like a willow in the wind” when I had to make a decision about turning up for my medical.
    He remembered my mild bout of polio in 1949 and didn’t believe I would pass the medical.
    When I did pass A1, and the time came to front up, his advice was consistent, but he misunderstood the way corps allocation worked.
    He assumed, as I did, that as a teacher I’d end up in Education Corps.
    When I didn’t, and was posted to infantry, he helped me research where the battalions were at the time, so I could request a posting to a unit that had just done a tour at the end of Corps training.
    That also went pear shaped when I was posted to 7 RAR, so his advice shifted to “make sure you take advantage of whatever repat benefits are available”.
    He had done so when he got back from New Guinea – (make sure you check that out, Mater).
    During the last few months of my tour in Vietnam, he would send me copies of the Education Office Gazette, and I would apply for every job going.
    That was how I ended up in Special Education – on the strength of an application sent from Vietnam in November 1970.
    In hindsight, his advice was sound, as the rehab Uni course kick-started a specialisation which served me well during my career in education.
    He had been a bush principal who had served in some remote locations, and wanted me to be spared that.
    My qualifications earned through the post Vietnam rehab fellowship kept me in the larger centres such as Brisbane and Townsville, except for a stint in Mount Isa for a few years.
    Funny thing is, that experience in Mount Isa left me with an appreciation of outback schools which was behind my motivation to work as a bush itinerant after I retired from a full time career.
    My father’s advice was always worth listening to, even if I didn’t always follow it.
    He’d spent years trying to talk me out of teaching…

  181. rafiki

    The same objection applies to the evidence of the ‘smoking gun’ identification ‘revealed’ in the ABC programme on Kelli Lane. The ABC sponsored nit-wits showed a single photo of Lane to some fellow who now lived in NZ, and he said the photo was (or maybe it was just very similar to) a woman he had seen visiting a particular block of flats. I think Lane claimed that she had visited her child’s father at those flats.

    The ABC legals should have recommended that a strong warning about the reliability of that evidence of identification be given. (Of course, perhaps the did … .)

  182. thefrollickingmole

    He put it as “bend like a willow in the wind” when I had to make a decision about turning up for my medical.

    Greatest moral challenge of his lifetime….
    “bend like a willow in the wind”

    And he dogged it.

  183. Farmer Gez

    My father and his brother volunteered for the RAAF because death was less likely than the army, their brother fighting hand to hand in New Guinea would have made them very aware of that. Dad was quite clear about that motivation to join the RAAF.

    Boy did they get that wrong Nota.
    Pilots and aircrew had the worst death rates. An old friend of the family served in anti aircraft but many of his mates from school joined the RAAF. Six were dead by 1944.

  184. H B Bear

    OK Who triggered ‘NamBob?

  185. calli

    On the armed services and degrees of separation.

    The Beloved has to have minor surgery in a few weeks. Turns out the surgeon’s mother was the Beloved’s grandfather’s Legatee.

    I think he’ll do an extra good job. 🙂

  186. Mater

    That is bullshit. The details you obsess over are insignificant.
    I have simply repeated the family narrative.

    No. You have a copy of his Service Record. This attests to it:

    Go back to his records, old mate, and find the letter my mother wrote on his behalf when he was suffering from conjunctivitis and couldn’t write himself.

    I gave you a chance, but you responded with this:

    Both statements are true, and the second simply repeats the first, with slightly more detail.
    I used his RAAF records to check dates at the time.

    You checked the dates when you made the claims of his service, and you still lied.

    Nothing, and I mean nothing, that you say on this blog should be accepted as fact. Not your fathers attitude towards Menzies, Churchill or conscription. Not your extended family’s voting preferences and certainly nothing surrounding the circumstances of your conscription. You and the truth are like ships that pass in the night.

    The only thing that seems to be true in your statements is that your father did, in fact, serve.

  187. calli

    It’s been going all day, Bear.

    Time for a soothing Covid update.

  188. William the Conjuror

    The Evidence Acts have provisions that are based on the high Court’s reasoning.

    Only to exclude identification of a defendant from a photograph? Does not exclude identification of a missing person? In a preliminary hearing?

  189. cohenite

    If you were going to estimate the number of shy GOP voters, what percentage of the vote do you reckon it is? For one, I reckon the shy black voter could be considerably higher than 16.. if Kanye doesn’t run. If Kenye actually does run the vote margin for the orange oaf could be big.

    The thing is the shy voter syndrome wasn’t there in 2016 and the polls were bullshit. It’s definitely present this time and it’s probably all of them; I mean who would tell cnn you vote Trump. I think Kanye will fizzle although it was a good idea. If the yummie mummies see that Trump is the only thing between their brats ending up in another Seattle chud or whatever it was called then he is home; and if the blacks can shake off their dependence on the demorat teat, then he is home. But if the GOP don’t invest in some mainstream media to counter the globalist corporate ownership they’re gonna lose eventually.

  190. Makka

    No latinos for Trump have died since 2016? Do yourself a favor …

    And 4 years of coming of age latino voters. It’s the math.

    Since 2016 Trump’s latino vote has gone one way. Even skewed leftist polsters can’t hide the fact that Latino voters are growing in support for Trump. Stop having a lend of yourself Ed.

    Trump’s Secret to Victory in 2020: Hispanic Voters
    Yes, it’s true: The man who wants to build a wall to keep out immigrants is winning over just enough Latinos to get re-elected. Unless Democrats figure out how to stop him.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/24/2020-hispanic-voters-donald-trump-225192

    Now, here’s the brutal truth for Democrats: If Hispanic Americans are in fact showing surging approval of Trump, he could be on his way to matching or exceeding the 40 percent won by George W. Bush in his 2004. If Trump does 12 percentage points better than his 2016 numbers with the growing Hispanic vote, it pretty much takes Florida, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina off the table for Democrats, who would need to sweep Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to reach the 270 electoral college votes needed to win the White House. At the same time, that 12-point shift would give Trump a clear shot at winning Colorado and Nevada, states where Hispanic voters make up well over 10 percent of the electorate and where Clinton won by 5 percentage points or less in 2016.

  191. cohenite

    From kenny’s latest:

    It was also a week when a young journalist told me that when interviewed for a job at the ABC they were asked to name their favourite politicians. What an offensive test; surely we could not imagine someone naming Tony Abbott or Peter Dutton and then being recruited to 7.30 or Radio National. Perhaps it was a well-disguised IQ test — they just wanted to see who was quick-witted enough to answer, “Penny Wong and Adam Bandt”.

  192. calli

    Here’s a delightful story about a rotting whale carcass.

    I hope they blow it up, like the one in Oregon. Which reminds me…they exploded another mortar at Birubi this morning. Or maybe it was a captive Victorian Sneaker.

  193. jupes

    Game Set Match – Mater, 6-0 6-0 6-0.

    Well played.

  194. P

    A beautiful photo of King’s Park, Perth, Western Australia… on ‘Bench Monday’ over at
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/13/monday-july-13th-open-thread/

  195. This post about my dad is dedicated to Mater.
    He has wimped my invitation (and Sinc’s suggestion) to debate the truth on my blog, but this might stir him into action.

  196. Steve of Kenmore

    Obama senior was a sponsored student at the University of Hawaii, then Harvard and returned to Kenya in 1964.

    I imagine his education is a matter of public record.

    Didn’t Obumu seal his educational records? Hiding them from the world.

  197. Ed Case

    The thing is the shy voter syndrome wasn’t there in 2016 and the polls were bullshit.

    The Polls were spot on as far as numbers go, which is all a Poll can do
    Clinton was 3 million ahead, Trump’s strategists engineered a skinny win in the EC.
    The Polls are likely to be accurate about intentions this time.
    In a country like the U.S. that doesn’t matter. What matters is turnout.
    Biden can win 100% of the vote in New York, Illinois, California, Massachusetts, Washington and Oregon and it means fuck all if he can’t get turnout in the Swing States.

  198. Mater

    He has wimped my invitation (and Sinc’s suggestion) to debate the truth on my blog, but this might stir him into action.

    Just cut and paste this post onto your ‘truth’ thread, then you can argue with it to your heart’s content. Like a dog chasing it’s own tail.

    You made the claims here. The truth has been outed here. All is as it should be.

  199. You checked the dates when you made the claims of his service, and you still lied.

    There were two inaccuracies in relation to my dad’s service, both dates, and neither of any significance in regard to the points I made about contrasting his service with mine, and his attitudes to both.
    You can almost smell Mater’s red herrings on the page.
    The substantial facts that he volunteered, that he served, and that he returned from active service stand.
    The same holds for details of my service.
    You’ll have to take my word for it when it comes to his attitudes about service.
    Suck it up…..

  200. Ed Case

    Didn’t Obumu seal his educational records? Hiding them from the world.

    Obama Senior was sponsored from Kenya, possibly by the State Dept.
    No contemporary could even recall seeing Obama Jr at Columbia, so whether he even has records is in doubt.

  201. Mater

    Suck it up…..

    I don’t have to suck anything, Bob. Least of all, your hot air.
    You’re cooked, old mate.

  202. Boambee John

    notafan

    My father and his brother volunteered for the RAAF because death was less likely than the army, their brother fighting hand to hand in New Guinea would have made them very aware of that.

    Cousin of my mother joined the Navy because he could not face the thought of hand to hand combat. He was killed on HMAS Perth at the Sunda Strait.

  203. Ed Case

    And 4 years of coming of age latino voters. It’s the math.

    Get a grip, Makka.
    Your quote is from Far Left Politico.
    Here’s the reality: Latino includes Mexico, Central America, South America, D.R., Puerto Rico, Cubans.
    Of those, Cubans are the only Demographic that consistently turns out for R, and in numbers, mostly in Florida.
    We already know that Trump is buying ads in NM, Nevada, and Arizona.
    As I said, they won’t turn out for Trump, but they may stay home for Biden. At the moment, that looks like a good bet.

  204. Boambee John

    Have never heard of that. Where was it reported?

    Read it years ago, no idea where at this point.

  205. cohenite

    This post about my dad is dedicated to Mater.
    He has wimped my invitation (and Sinc’s suggestion) to debate the truth on my blog, but this might stir him into action.

    FOAD you grub.

  206. Makka

    Your quote is from Far Left Politico.

    We already know that Trump is buying ads in NM, Nevada, and Arizona.

    No shit, Sherlock.

    Your contention is they will stay at home. Not buying it for a minute. You will see a higher latino turnout in 2020 than 2016.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The substantial facts’

    As opposed to the actual facts, which is your usual response when caught out. Repeatedly.

    A bit like ‘I’ll call it what I want’, or ‘words mean what I want them to mean.’

    ‘I tell the truth.’ You’ve been caught out that often it’s a daily pastime. Not particularly onerous, but a pastime nonetheless. Remember these nuggets of ‘truth’?

    ‘I was deferred.’

    ‘I was deferred twice.’

    ‘I was not deferred.’ The sky is indeed purple in Liability Bob World.

  208. Bushkid:

    Either this Covid thing is real, or it is not.
    If it is, then the entire Victorian government should be sacked on the spot, and the top two or even three levels of state government bureaucracy as well.

    I’ve been advocating for a system wide purge of our political/military/educational/administrative classes for years.
    Yours – two/or three levels – is a great starting point.
    If they don’t get the message, then we can go to level four.
    I really don’t want to go to level four, it gets messy.
    Not that I believe violence ever solved anything… much.

  209. Knuckle Dragger

    A reminder:

    Gulags are fictional.

  210. cohenite

    Clinton was 3 million ahead

    Anyone who believes the popular vote mantra can buy my bridge. The polls said shrillary by a landslide; yet Trump won all 4 elections: POTUS, Senate, both EC and the house and state governors, both popular. He lost in 2018 because of meuller, the media and the RINOs.

  211. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I couldn’t be bothered to be consistent.’

    You got that right.

  212. Old School Conservative

    H B Bear
    #3511887, posted on July 13, 2020 at 4:22 pm
    OK Who triggered ‘NamBob?

    The truth.
    Mater delivered it.

  213. Anthony

    Is there a covid elephant in the room in Victoria?

  214. Old School Conservative

    Jindabyne is an interesting town today.
    Roads to Perisher, Thredbo, and Berridale were closed because of so many vehicle accidents on them.
    Skiing and snow boarding on the banks of the (low) lake.

    Iconic photos ready for the taking and a quiet day on the slopes.

  215. Armadillo

    He has wimped my invitation (and Sinc’s suggestion) to debate the truth on my blog, but this might stir him into action.

    “If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”

  216. Foresster:
    Very informative article about the advanced chip making machine. I was unaware of the implications of the class of chip. I’d have thought the US would have one or two, or a dozen.
    The security angle + the AI must be a worry.
    🙂
    I need one for my kitchen. Mine keeps burning the damn things.
    Jeez I’m funny.
    I’m here every night, try the veal…

  217. Farmer Gez

    cohenite
    #3511895, posted on July 13, 2020 at 4:27 pm
    From kenny’s latest:

    It was also a week when a young journalist told me that when interviewed for a job at the ABC they were asked to name their favourite politicians. What an offensive test; surely we could not imagine someone naming Tony Abbott or Peter Dutton and then being recruited to 7.30 or Radio National. Perhaps it was a well-disguised IQ test — they just wanted to see who was quick-witted enough to answer, “Penny Wong and Adam Bandt”.

    A really quick wit would answer “Benjamin Disraeli.”

  218. Armadillo

    It’s as likely as Trump agreeing to a “debate” on CNN.

  219. DrBeauGan

    I’ve found the only honest and competent plumbers in Perth. The name is impossible to tell you you directly because it contains a banned word, so you’ll have to replace the second character, the approximation is J3wlbic. I am passing this on as a kindness to Perthites.

  220. DrBeauGan

    Oh gawd.
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #3511938, posted on July 13, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    I’ve found the only honest and competent plumbers in Perth. The name is impossible to tell you you directly because it contains a banned word, so you’ll have to replace the second character, the approximation is Jēwëlbic. I am passing this on as a kindness to Perthites.

  221. Armadillo

    Has Arky finished the car, or has he been distracted sticking pins in hand made voodoo dolls of his perceived enemies?

  222. mindfree

    Apologies if this has been posted before JC
    FMD

    One of the most adorable gals in Hollywood for the past few decades has died. Kelly Preston, who really did look a lot like Grace Kelly is finito

    John Travolta’s wife

  223. Armadillo

    I’ve been getting chest pains. Thought here was the logical place to check first.

  224. dover_beach

    Great win by Duda in Poland. Massive defeat for globalism and liberalism. King Jan Sobieski would be proud.

  225. Makka

    Don’t hesitate to get them checked at the docs, Arma.

  226. Armadillo

    Don’t hesitate to get them checked at the docs, Arma.

    Process of elimination, Makka. First thoughts drifted to Arky, followed quickly by hacking Mrs A’s iphone to see what she’s been searching on the Internet.

    Looks like I’m getting a new lap-top for my birthday. Puts her in the clear.

  227. Delta A

    I’ve been getting chest pains. Thought here was the logical place to check first.

    That’s very funny, Arma… providing that your jesting.

    If you’re serious, ‘phone your doc, or that could be your Last Post.

  228. Delta A

    …and we’d miss you.

  229. Armadillo

    Great win by Duda in Poland.

    What was the margin, Dover? Exit polls when I looked this morning on BBC said it was a “tiny” lead.

    Could be instructive of what’s going on if Duda won easily.

  230. Knuckle Dragger

    Scoreboard, after me driving home from work:

    Me – 1
    Bin chicken – 0

    If you’re going to stand in the middle of the road looking the other way, compelling me to make only very minor steering inputs then you deserve what you get. Foomp, it went as it took off way too late.

    A wing slingshot its way onto the windscreen on its way up, and then down. Left a perfect feather dust imprint of most of a wing.

    Beautiful, in its own way.

  231. Armadillo

    …and we’d miss you. Sort of….

    Reminds me of “Hammy”. That dude went to spectacular lengths for sympathy and recognition. Actually dying is a “big call”.

    He never got mentioned after that. Could be a lesson in there somewhere.

  232. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Suck it up…..’

    Which, coincidentally, is exactly what management said to Old Yeller after he whined. To teacher.

    The first time.

  233. cohenite

    Those Karen meltdown compilations are funny and irritating; I like the fat bitch standing in front of a car demanding help because the driver is going to run over her and when asked reasonably to get out of the way, won’t.

  234. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I’ve been getting chest pains. Thought here was the logical place to check first.’

    Very wise.

    Don’t worry about it. They’ll probably go away after a few months.

  235. Delta A

    Cohenite, she had more than the Karen Syndrome. She was an absolute liar, shrieking to 911 that he was running her over.

    I can assure you that decent women cringe in disgust when they see their ‘sisters’ behaving so appallingly.

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