Tuesday Forum: July 14, 2020

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  1. Tom

    Do women like being treated as morons by other women?

    Well, Straya has an endless supply of busybody loudmouth brainless Karens (like the one cited above by Farmer Gez).

    Unfortunately only intelligent chicks generally to read the Cat — they’re not the problem.

    It’d be nice to see some pushback against the wall-to-wall female neighborhood fascists endlessly indulged by 90% of the media, especially the commercial TV networks (to which Calli subjects herself to so much stupidity so we don’t have to).

  2. mh

    Did Tiny meet with Pickles?
    If so, what happened?
    Enquiring minds want to know.

  3. Struth

    I am in the process of writing to my local MP this morning, MV.
    Llew O’Brien.

    He finally got back to me with a brush off letter, thanking me for my interest and referring me to gov websites regarding Cofib1984.

    I am not letting go until I get his personal view and what he advocates for.
    Is he fine with his party allowing states and his government to ignore the constitution (with examples) etc……no need to tell you guys, you know what I’d be asking.

    Then once my morning activism is done I have work starting to build as bands are being replaced by solo artists who promise not to allow or encourage dancing.
    On stage this weekend, so should be very weird.
    I need to go over my whole James Taylor type easy listening set so that those watching at four metres apart feel no need to tap their feet.
    Pure insanity.

  4. mh

    Did Tiny meet with Pickles?
    If so, what happened?
    Enquiring minds want to know.

    Damn, I believe it is inquiring.

  5. Thanks, Tom!

    Knight #2 for me. Great summation with a humourous slant. What the job should be about.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Comment in moderation – seems Shamina Begum, the English schoolgirl, who went to join the headchoppers, has won her fight to return to Britain, and try to have her citizenship restored.

  7. Honourable mention to Lisa Benson. Could almost be an Australian election!

  8. MemoryFault

    What’s wrong with that question MV?

    Nick, go join Low Lowe and BrettW and any other fvckwits in some remedial reading classes.
    Maybe at the end at least one of you will understand what “mainstream political parties” means.
    Maybe just one of you will have a burst of enlightenment, and understand who I am referring to when I write “Liberal, Labor, National and LNP parties”.

    And while you’re all at it, you might take note of the fact that Cardimona is running as an INDEPENDENT. Do you at least know what that word means, cretin?

  9. Top Ender

    THAT’S ANOTHER FINE MESS YOU’VE GOT US INTO, DAN

    JENNIFER ORIEL

    Victoria’s pandemic nightmare is a consequence of the disorder that has accompanied Daniel Andrews’s leadership of the state. In a modern democracy with universal healthcare, vulnerable populations should not have to suffer inequality of health outcomes.

    Yet at a time of crisis, Labor has fallen short of its promise to provide equality in health. Its management of the virus is not a mere bungle but reflects a pattern of arrogant incompetence.

    The Victorian populations where COVID-19 found its second wind are concentrated in public housing and battler belt suburbs, demographics that traditionally were associated with Labor voters. It is these groups that Labor is desperately trying to win back. As part of its strategy, the ALP promotes the idea it provides better health outcomes than the Coalition. It takes a strong dose of reality to dispel illusions and the pandemic has delivered it.

    From the outset, Victoria’s socialist Labor government has politicised the pandemic and erred on the side of intemperance.

    Soon after the virus hit Australia, evidence mounted of the Chinese Communist Party concealing the origins of the pandemic. The CCP downplayed the virus’s threat to humanity while stockpiling essential medical supplies. If the US had done the same, the left would march in the streets for social justice. But Victorian Labor had other ideas.

    Tim Pallas set the tone for what would become the most disastrous handling of the crisis by any Australian government to date. The Victorian Treasurer defended the CCP by saying it suspended Australian meat imports because of “language that … has seemed to vilify China”. The language under attack was a request from the federal Coalition government for an independent investigation into the virus’s origins.

    It was a reasonable suggestion and clearly in the national interest. By contrast, Labor’s suggestion that it amounted to vilification was absurd. You cannot vilify a government that is devotedly dishonest, censorious, violently oppressive, bigoted and a human rights abusing power par excellence. You cannot vilify a totalitarian state. It stands permanently accused.

    The Andrews government has a track record of living by the dishonourable Labor ethos of whatever it takes. Crises are milked for political gain. Corruption is managed, not eradicated. Systems of governance are reworked to give greater advantages to the ruling faction and the party. What Victorian Labor resists is transparency and democratic accountability.

    Andrews is demonstrating autocratic tendencies, but federal Labor will not hold him to account. On two occasions this year he has resisted federal oversight that would have benefited Victorians but exposed the party to inconvenient scrutiny.

    After the heartbreaking bushfire season, Scott Morrison established a royal commission. The aim is to determine how federal, state, territory and local governments should work together in preparation for, response to and recovery from natural disaster events. The commission will investigate appropriate resourcing for future arrangements and consider a funding-based mechanism to improve accountability at all levels of government. The Prime Minister invited state leaders to participate. Andrews refused. Instead he has set up his own investigation, saying the national commission could interfere with an area of his responsibility. But his government shirked its responsibility to keep Victorians safe by failing to manage public land and neglecting to reduce fuel load before the fire season arrived.

    As Rachel Baxendale reported in January, the Andrews government had carried out just more than half the fuel reduction burns planned for last year and only a third recommended by the Black Saturday royal commission. Despite parliament requiring Andrews to release bushfire fuel load maps by December 11 last year, he refused to make them public.

    Labor also rejected the offer of federal assistance to protect Victorians from the risk of COVID-19. The state is in lockdown because the Andrews government rejected the Australian Defence Force offer to secure COVID-19 quarantine facilities.

    Instead, Labor insisted on hiring private security firms without a formal tender process. When 30 per cent of new arrivals in quarantine refused virus testing, Andrews said the government could not make them take a test.

    Yet outgoing federal Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy implored him to do more. State Opposition leader Michael O’Brien said: “If Labor allows infected travellers to leave quarantine simply because they haven’t been tested, that is a clear threat to public health and safety.” He was right. The Andrews government is responsible for the state’s second wave that resulted from its gross incompetence in the management of hotel quarantine. Genomic sequencing showed security guards had acquired the virus and transmitted it to their families, some of whom live in multi-generational households.

    Federal authorities have been deployed to clean up Labor’s mess. Other states will foot the bill to patrol shared borders with Victoria. What should have been a case of prevention by Australian Federal Police managed quarantine is a health and economic disaster requiring billions of taxpayer funding.

    Every state will have outbreaks, but the Victorian example shows that in the context of national disasters such as bushfires and pandemics, government arrogance and incompetence are a dangerous combination. At the time of writing, there were 1931 active cases in Victoria and 238 new cases. The second wave appears to have emerged in areas that have higher non-English speaking background populations.

    Non-government organisations have raised the alarm about the elevated risk of the virus spreading among groups that cannot speak basic English and therefore cannot understand public health messages. In April, the Multicultural CEO Network signed an open letter to Andrews asking for increased funding as well as dedicated “ethno-specific” money for migrant groups. Yet when the Coalition tried to reform citizenship rules to introduce a higher standard for English proficiency, Labor compared it the White Australia policy.

    In the absence of a vaccine, COVID-19 will remain a threat to our health and prosperity. If governments are to be held accountable for recklessly endangering Australians’ lives, hitting politicians in the hip pocket would be a good start.

    Print edition of the Oz

  10. johanna

    I’ve been following with interest the pushback against Chinese 5G technology, and no doubt that is a good thing.

    Only trouble is, we will instead be infiltrated by US technology, which also spies on everyone. Giants like Google and Spacechook have lied and lied and lied again about collecting and selling people’s information. Every time they get caught out, they apologise and promise it won’t happen again. Invertebrate politicians pretend to believe them. Then it all happens again.

    Thing is, Google et al are not the same as the US. They have their own agendas, currently including getting rid of Trump.

    Nixing Huwei is only one step along the road. I don’t think being spied on by Google is much better than being spied on by the Chinese.

  11. Dr Faustus

    Busybody Karen professor wants mandatory warning labelling for pregnancy dangers (FAS) on all alcohol containers.

    This all assumes that pisspot pregnant persons are sentient beings. Bottles must be fitted with childproof stoppers to deter the dimmest of dim bulbs disadvantaged.

    #personalresponsibilityisfascism
    #nobodyleftbehind

  12. Nick

    That’s not a very civil response at all MV. Shame on you.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    It is a very simple question Faulty.
    If Cardimona comes through the pack and wins the seat you would then advocate voting against him at the following election (as he would then be the sitting member)?
    Yes or no?

  14. MemoryFault

    Ellen of Tasmania
    #3515921, posted on July 17, 2020 at 8:58 am

    Good morning Ellen.
    Thanks for that excellent post. You may like to scroll back here to yesterday morning, where Struth posted a video on Event 201, which is in much the same theme. By “sheer coincidence” the World Economic Forum were principle sponsors, organisers, and participants in that conference too.

  15. BrettW

    The fact still remains that if you have an MP you like MF’s advice is to vote for them last.

    No problem if I was in Terri Butler’s electorate. Then I get her replaced by voting for her last and then vote against the winner at the following election and up she pops again.

    His continued posting on this strategy is just laughable.

  16. TFM:
    Davina Cooper –

    Davina Cooper is a research professor in law and political theory. She is an interdisciplinary scholar, whose work focuses on concepts, transformative politics, experimental communities and state activism. She is particularly interested in methodologies that enable new progressive conceptual understandings, anchored in contested and innovative ways of living and governing. She currently directs an ESRC funded research project on the Future of Legal Gender – a prefigurative feminist law reform initiative. Her books include Challenging Diversity: Rethinking Equality and the Value of Difference (CUP, 2004); Everyday Utopias: The Conceptual Life of Promising Spaces (Duke 2014) and Feeling like a State: Desire, Denial and the Recasting of Authority (Duke, 2019). From 2004-2009, she directed the AHRC Research Centre in Law, Gender and Sexuality (based at the universities of Kent, Keele and Westminster); from 2000-2003, she was Research Dean for the Social Science Faculty at Keele. She has been a specialist advisor to the Education and Employment Parliamentary Select Committee, a magistrate, and a local London councillor. She is a founding editor of the interdisciplinary Routledge book series, Social Justice.

    Just another Marxist parasite who, if there were any justice, would be silently coughing it’s guts up under a bridge, drinking metho and crying about how she is unappreciated.
    I loathe this class of people. Having never contributed to the total benefit of Mankind, has no bloody idea just what other people have sacrificed just to give her wittering ego the oxygen to survive and impose itself on us all.

  17. MemoryFault

    Nick and Low Lowe.

    Do you really believe repeating an idiotic statement will make you appear less idiotic?
    Figures.

    BTW, I have already indicated to Cardimona that I am happy to travel up and spend the day handing out how to vote pamphlets for him at a polling booth.

    Will I be seeing you two there, or doesn’t Alinsky cover that?

  18. Nick

    Will I be seeing you two there,

    Erm ,no, we don’t live in that electorate.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    And while you’re all at it, you might take note of the fact that Cardimona is running as an INDEPENDENT. Do you at least know what that word means, cretin?

    Ah, OK.
    The first crack in the dam wall.
    The absolutist doctrine of “Vote the sitting member last” – no ifs no buts – has a qualifier.
    Vote the sitting member last (unless they are an independent).
    Another hypothetical.
    Adam Bandt is chucked out of the Greens moves to FNQ and wins the seat as an independent.
    Cardimona is welcomed into the fold of the National Party and runs against Bandt in the following election.
    Who gets the vote?
    The independent?
    Or the major party?

  20. MemoryFault

    BrettW.

    Nick and Low Lowe have an excuse – they’re either idiots or agents intent on destroying this blog.
    But what are you?

    We have now been over this three times.
    The campaign is specifically aimed at sitting members representing the Liberal, Labor, National, and LNP parties. The only corollary to that is where the sitting member represents one of those parties, and for one reason or another is not contesting the election. In that case you number their party approved replacement last.

    Would you like me to repeat it for you in pictures, Dick and Dora style?

  21. Nick

    NSW is just as bad lol

    The fact sheets said police could direct someone to provide their name and address under the Public Health Act and they could perform an arrest under law enforcement powers legislation if the person refused, but only as a last resort.

    They also urged officers to use their discretion in relation to enforcing the previous two-person-gathering rule in public areas and stay-at-home orders.

    “A family having a sandwich in the park after a walk, for example, would not warrant the same police response as a group of rowdy teenagers eating and socialising in the park,” the guidelines said.

    Lol

  22. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3515948, posted on July 17, 2020 at 9:29 am

    Will I be seeing you two there,

    Erm ,no, we don’t live in that electorate.

    Well, I don’t just blindly buy into a candidate like that.
    I mean, I would need to see his full election manifesto and evaluate it against other candidates.

  23. Nick

    agents intent on destroying this blog.

    Yes, we both work for KAOS.
    Seriously, a simple, polite question and we are ‘agents’ ‘destroying the blog’?
    Put the tin foil hat back on.

  24. MemoryFault

    Erm ,no, we don’t live in that electorate.

    No, neither do I. I am over a thousand kilometres away.
    And your point is . . .

  25. Nick

    No, neither do I. I am over a thousand kilometres away.
    And your point is . . .

    The only people who would travel to an electorate not of their own, without knowing anything about their manifesto would be no better than Antifa or GetUp drones.

  26. Zyconoclast

    Red Bull appears not to do woke.

    Red Bull is reported to have fired three of its top executives in the US after more than 300 employees criticized the company’s ‘public silence’ on Black Lives Matter. North America chief executive Stefan Kozak and North America president and chief marketing officer Amy Taylor were let go, the energy drink company said Tuesday. Both Kozak and Taylor are said to have pushed for more diversity and inclusion, The Wall Street Journal reports. A third executive, head of global culture marketing Florian Klaass, has also left after she allegedly approved a ‘racist’ slide shown in a meeting.

  27. MemoryFault

    Tell you what, Low Lowe.
    In the event of such a convoluted, rather improbable situation ever arising, I would probably have to leave it up to the voter to decide. My only part would be to let the voters know each candidate’s history.

    What would you do?

    Oh sorry, I forgot. Part of your learned Alinsky Disruption Techniques is to never actually commit yourself to anything. It comes right after the lesson in reversing what people say to confuse the issue – like swapping “upatriotic” for “patriotic”.

    You were kind enough to demonstrate that one yesterday.

  28. MemoryFault

    no better than Antifa or GetUp drones.

    So now you’re accusing Cardimona of being a member of Antifa and GetUp?
    Not sure how he will feel about that.

  29. Gilas

    MemoryFault wants us to put the sitting member last on our ballots.. every 3-4 years.. and that will eventually, sometimes, perhaps, knock-me-down-or-else-I’ll scream!, make a difference.

    Struth wants us to write letters to the media, local members etc.. while still advocating law-abiding behaviour, as per the Anzac Day “protest”. We don’t want to do anything improper or illegal now, do we? Oh no!

    The rest of the Cat cardigan commandos (CCCs) like to wittily, cleverly, humorously, fulminate on this blog.
    Truly brave acts of… you know… true bravery which will do, is doing, and have done
    basically,
    essentially,
    really,
    [email protected] difference to 0.001% of [email protected] to the Marxist marching destruction of Australia and the West.

    But… but… but…we believe that,
    in the fullness of time,
    eventually,
    maybe,
    something,
    or someone, will make a difference… eventually… really… because we all say so!

    May I, humbly, make a suggestion? (mutter… mutter.. hrumphh.. WTF.. what do you want now?)…

    Just like the evil leftards organise as a few dozen fanatics, march, block streets, inconvenience thousands, and manage to subdue Government, Police, Army etc….
    Just like the Cronulla, Minto and many other organised riots almost overturned the sitting Government at the time….
    Just like BLM, Extinction Rebellion, Socialist Alternative, Aboriginal-whatever, every sh!t-brained activist, rogue union march manages to shape and change political agendas, without a shot being fired….

    Just like that…
    Why don’t WE, organise, and do the same?

    I expect: crickets………….. or various theories on the number of camels which won at the Alamo.

    QED: we lose, and will keep losing.

  30. Nick

    So now you’re accusing Cardimona of being a member of Antifa and GetUp?
    Not sure how he will feel about that.

    What are you ? Five Years old ?

  31. Roger

    News I never thought I’d hear in my lifetime:

    QLD building a 700m wall on the Gold Coast to keep Mexicans out.

  32. MemoryFault

    Why don’t WE, organise, and do the same?

    Good morning Gilas.
    I take your point, but you re late to the party.

    Both Struth and I accept that it may very well come to that, Struth even more so than me. And we are both prepared to go whatever lengths necessary, including violence and armed resistance. I can’t speak for Struth, but I already have a close knit group prepared with me, to stand, and if necessary, fall, defending what we believe in.

    But you don’t start at the top and work your way down.
    You start at the bottom and work your way up.

  33. notafan

    The pregnancy alcohol thing is primarily an aboriginal community issue.

    Iirc up to 20% of babies born in places like Roebourne have foetal alcohol problems.

    Targeting interventions money wasted on labelling.

  34. EvilElvis

    Usual bickering well under way.

    What time is Humpty Dumpty fight club on today?

  35. notafan

    Quite possibly people advocating violence are more likely to bring down the blog that the cardigan commandos tomfoolery.

  36. William the Conjuror

    Gee-larse excretinates on the blog again. A bigger mound this time, with dark bits in it. Justice is blind.

  37. MemoryFault

    News I never thought I’d hear in my lifetime:

    Good morning Roger.
    Yeah – and they built it in a couple of days. Trump should be envious.

    Under any other circumstances I might be impressed – they have been doing similar work at the southern end of the Gateway Bridge for over twenty years – and it’s still not finished.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    The campaign is specifically aimed at sitting members representing the Liberal, Labor, National, and LNP parties. 

    I see.
    A qualifier not mentioned before.
    I don’t recall there being an asterisk attached to “Vote the sitting member last”.
    Which brings me to the hypothetical I raised at 9:31.
    Any answer to that?
    Take your time.

  39. Roger

    Under any other circumstances I might be impressed – they have been doing similar work at the southern end of the Gateway Bridge for over twenty years – and it’s still not finished.

    You mean the Sir Leo Hielscher Bridge(s), Peter.

    😉

  40. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault

    #3515964, posted on July 17, 2020 at 9:44 am

    Tell you what, Low Lowe.
    In the event of such a convoluted, rather improbable situation ever arising, I would probably have to leave it up to the voter to decide. My only part would be to let the voters know each candidate’s history.

    Aha!!!
    Leave it up to the voter to decide!
    What a novel concept.
    How magnanimous of you!

  41. Leigh Lowe


    Always
    put the sitting member last.
    Mostly.
    Sometimes.

  42. Dr Faustus

    I get the berserker joy of destroying Major Party careerists by automatically voting them out. The slight problem is that we end up with parliaments filled with minor parties, nutters, and single issue independents, united only by self interest – as per Italy.

    The upside is nothing much gets done by government. The downside is that bureaucracy fills the void and you get random rule by CMO’s, teachers and Public Works engineers – and anything that does get done is done in chaos, circular paperwork, and agonised screaming. As per Italy.

    Not my cup of tea: but if some of the bunga bunga partying passes down the line, so be it.

    Cardimona, you’re on notice.

  43. Top Ender

    In fact, should it be headlined: Anther push to break up the traditional concept of family?

    Push to turn family lore into law
    SARAH ELKS

    For generations in the Torres Strait, an ancient, secret and sacred tradition has thrived: biological parents giving children to other relatives to be loved and raised as their own.

    After decades of advocacy by islanders, the nation’s first Torres Strait Islander MP introduced a bill into Queensland parliament on Thursday to enshrine this Torres Strait lore into state law.

    Cook MP Cynthia Lui, an Iamalaig woman of the Kulkalgal nation of the Torres Strait, said the legislation provided legal recognition of the enduring child rearing practice in the islands, or what used to be called traditional adoption.

    “As a child, I wondered why, as Torres Strait Islanders, we do not publicly discuss our traditional child-rearing practice,” Ms Lui said. “Today, I speak in my cultural truth that children who are raised under this practice deserve only love, respect, dignity and acceptance, and questions about who they are and where they come from are irrelevant.”

    The bill — called Meriba Omasker Kaziw Kazipa, or “for our children’s children” — allows children who are raised by “cultural parents” to be eligible for accurate birth certificates, meaning they are able to be enrolled in school and receive government services.

    Ivy Trevallion, whose family is from the Dauan and Saibai islands in the northernmost reaches of the archipelago, has been pushing for legislative recognition for decades and was part of the eminent panel advising the government. Her late uncle, Steve Mam, preceded her as a key advocate for the change.

    Ms Trevallion said biological parents often gave childless couples the most precious gift, a child. “It can be for many reasons, infertility, to strengthen family ties, for estate purposes,” Ms Trevallion said. “Each island has their own way of doing this sort of thing, but our children can’t get senior certificates, licences, passports. Our children are Australian. They have the right to exist in this country.”

    Charles Passi, whose family is from Murray Island and whose father, Dave Passi, was one of the plaintiffs in the historic Mabo land rights case, said the reforms were as significant as the Mabo decision. Mr Passi is also one of the eminent panel.

    “I saw that decision (Mabo) as opening a huge door for political freedom and social freedom for Torres Strait Islanders,” he said.

    “This opens up for our children and whole dynasties of family connection across the Torres Strait — and for Torres Strait Islanders across Australia — how we share our children and build a brighter future for them; completing families who have no children, ensuring lineage and connections to land can go into the future.”

    The bill will be referred to parliament’s health committee for review, and the government is hoping it will pass before the October 31 state election.

  44. mh

    Queensland recorded no new coronavirus cases on Friday.
    There are four active cases in the state.

  45. Roger

    The pregnancy alcohol thing is primarily an aboriginal community issue.

    Wacist!

  46. Gilas

    MemoryFault
    #3515981, posted on July 17, 2020 at 10:03 am

    But you don’t start at the top and work your way down.
    You start at the bottom and work your way up.

    I appreciate your comment, but the Universe is full of excuses.

    I am late to the party?
    Which party?
    Must have missed the armed, or unarmed, version of it.

  47. MemoryFault

    You mean the Sir Leo Hielscher Bridge(s), Peter.

    I guess so, Roger. Haven’t been down there in a looong time.
    Marilyn and I arrived here in September 1988. The southern end was a jungle of bollards.
    Last time I was down there was 2012. The southern end was STILL a jungle of bollards. True, they had been moved around a bit, but it was still much the same.
    But #1 son is down that way often with his work. Apparently there are now two bridges.
    And the southern ends are STILL are jungle of bollards.

  48. Leigh Lowe

    Dr Faustus

    #3515992, posted on July 17, 2020 at 10:17 am

    I get the berserker joy of destroying Major Party careerists by automatically voting them out. The slight problem is that we end up with parliaments filled with minor parties, nutters, and single issue independents

    Are you calling Cardimona a nutter?
    Are you?
    ARE YOU???

  49. Roger

    Cook MP Cynthia Lui, an Iamalaig woman of the Kulkalgal nation of the Torres Strait

    Just how many “nations” does the Torres Strait sustain?

  50. H B Bear

    My run of outs at Teh Paywallian continues with this one rejected on the return of Countdown,

    Curiously 30 years ago was when the ABC was last worth watching. Today you are more likely to get a gritty reality drama about growing up as a transsexual Aboriginal with two Mums in inner city Redfern. Naturally, I’ll be watching the footy.

    Still gotta keep trying.

  51. Dr Faustus

    Are you calling Cardimona a nutter?
    Are you?
    ARE YOU???

    Not at all.
    That was my polite application for any spare bunga bunga overflow from the new system.

  52. Dr Faustus

    Just how many “nations” does the Torres Strait sustain?

    You are being intolerably racist this morning, Roger.
    You should be on some sort of register.

  53. H B Bear

    Just how many “nations” does the Torres Strait sustain?

    About $30bn pa.

  54. Infidel Tiger King

    Record cases of China Flu in Japan, supposedly a model country on how to deal with it.

    We need to accept that you can not eliminate this virus and learn to live with it while protecting the aged and infirm.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    QLD building a 700m wall on the Gold Coast to keep Mexicans out.

    Amazing how the Left now loves walls and strict immigration controls.

  56. MatrixTransform

    And your point is . . .

    LOL, and this guy reckons everybody else is thick in the head

  57. Roger

    I guess so, Roger. Haven’t been down there in a looong time.

    Bit of a joke, Peter.

    Anna Bligh renamed the bridge(s) after a public servant most people had never heard of (as it should be) in 2010.

    But everybody still refers to them as the Gateway Bridge.

    And yes, I’ve been using it off and on since the 1980s (less so now) and the southern end is still a mess as I recall.

  58. MemoryFault

    Not my cup of tea: but if some of the bunga bunga partying passes down the line, so be it.

    Fair enough, DrFaustus.
    As I have written here repeatedly, I’m open to suggestions.
    If you reckon you have a better idea, then please share it.
    If you can convince me, I’ll happily swing my money, time and effort over to promotion of your method. Just please don’t waste your time or mine with “start a new party”, or “reform the Liberals”.

    I’m only interested in things that have at least a one in a million chance of accomplishing anything.

  59. Roger

    Amazing how the Left now loves walls and strict immigration controls.

    One day they’ll have to build a wall around Kalifornia to keep tax payers from leaving.

  60. cohenite

    Good comparison of off-spring and parenting:

    miltonf
    #3515810, posted on July 17, 2020 at 5:11 am
    James Murdoch, the son of billionaire and Fox Corporation founder Rupert Murdoch, and his wife Kathryn have donated $1.23 million to former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, according to filings.

    And little bloke who saves his sister from a dog attack:

    rickw
    #3515821, posted on July 17, 2020 at 6:17 am
    Bravery:

    Outstanding. And good on Chris Evans, who can be a bit hollywood, for sending the little guy a Captain America shield.

  61. Dr Faustus

    Just please don’t waste your time or mine with “start a new party”, or “reform the Liberals”.

    All the appeal of a dog turd in a burning bag on the doorstep.

  62. Nick

    I’m only interested in things that have at least a one in a million chance of accomplishing anything.

    A case of indigenous owned automatic rifles ?

  63. Struth

    Why don’t WE, organise, and do the same?

    Gilas, I surrounded Parliament House with trucks and stood on a stage in front of it wrestling the microphone from Alan Jones to address a protest of thousands I helped organise.
    I’ve had cops point their guns at me and my truck to stop me taking to Capital hill.
    I just had a letter published on Australian and NZ television.

    I come here because I know most people are old here and being keyboard warriors is about all they can physically manage which is why I am always pushing writing and things like that.
    What the fuck have you done?
    I spend at least two hours a day being a keyboard warrior every day, and if I had a decent idea about how to fight this attack without violence I would do it.
    As I was scoffed at for saying, yet I’ll say it again, we are not getting out of this without violent demonstration.
    This blog is a bell weather to me.
    Only months ago the fear and hysteria here was fucking disgraceful.
    On Australia’s leading right wing blog that showed me there was nothing we could do.
    If even cats were that gullible, what hope have you got?
    And as a bell weather this blog has still way too much gullibility and MSM brainwashing apparent to do anything yet except try and wake people up from the fear that’s stopping them thinking clearly.
    Until that happens we can do nothing.
    So Gilas, you let us know when you’ve organised a violent protest and I’ll stand with you like the 30 or so stood with me at Anzac day.
    Because until the brainwashing and fear is gone we have no hope.

  64. EvilElvis

    Why don’t WE, organise, and do the same?

    Because as much as we feel we have a lot in common, Gilas, when the crunch comes we are worlds apart.

    Between left leaning libertarians and minimalist individualist conservatives there’s a lot of room for a Liberal party.

    And then there’s the ever present fact that we don’t get dirty, we play by the rules, yet laud the outsiders who do get involved. Think Pauline, Latham, Barnaby. We are satisfied to push a lone soldier outside to face the leftard hordes, clapping and cheering them on while keeping our hands clean and tut tutting them in our inner circles for occassionally speaking the truth.

    Strength is in numbers, the far right doesn’t have the numbers. You allow libertarians and wets in to bolster the numbers you end up where we are now. There needs to be a targeted approach to retaking the Liberal party or bolstering and improving One Nation. The slow drain that has led us here through the public service, education and media needs to be attacked at the source of its funding.

  65. Anyone else get wind of this forced hormone (estrogens) therapy in Californian (make) juvenile detention?

    It wasn’t just the kid who complained, either.

    I heard it through the beanie.

    Secret and coercive human experimentation.

    Sick shit.

  66. MemoryFault

    A medal for this brave, good boy:

    Hi C.L.
    There’s a video clip about him and what happened, posted upthread.
    Only a couple of minutes long, and worth a watch.

  67. Roger

    Trouble in paradise:

    Three boys, all under the age of 14, will be dealt with by Queensland Police after allegedly raping a five-year-old boy in a remote Queensland community.*

    “It’s not the first time this has happened”, a local resident told a reporter from The Australian.

    The three boys have been removed from the community after threats of retribution.

    * Journalese for an indigenous community.

  68. Infidel Tiger King

    Struth you will have more chance of organising your rebellion if you learn to format your posts on fomenting dissent.

    Unreadable.

  69. Infidel Tiger King

    And it’s “bell wether”.

    The pedant uprising begins today.

  70. Infidel Tiger King

    It’s time to admit that most Aboriginal communities are pedo villages.

    Very sick people.

  71. Struth

    Quite possibly people advocating violence are more likely to bring down the blog that the cardigan commandos tomfoolery.

    Your attitude helped bring about the shit we are in.
    Maybe it’s the time for you to sit quietly in the corner…..of the kitchen …..on this matter.
    Of course violence isn’t something women want, you just fuck the nation forcing us to be violent to save it.
    Do you think we want to be violent 1), and two I’m not advocating it.
    I say that it is going to come to it, but it will without my agitation anyway.

  72. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The three boys have been removed from the community after threats of retribution.

    Read the full story. The penalty these three boys face may well be counseling, an arbitrated meeting with the victims family, and the offering of an apology.

  73. Farmer Gez

    Struth talking of bravery.

    I’ve been up a long ladder on a 50,000lt plastic tank with the frost melting, fitting 150mm PVC pipes.
    Slip slidin’ away.

  74. C.L.

    Thanks, Faulto.
    Will scroll up and check it out.

  75. Struth

    You know IT, Most of my mistakes are because I type qquickly, sending out emails and shit at the same time with numerous pages open.
    However, I actually thought it was bell “weather” this time, so thank you for that.

  76. Struth

    I’m not talking of bravery, I’m talking about activism away from the keyboard.
    Big difference.
    Got to go………..

  77. cohenite

    Struth
    #3516019, posted on July 17, 2020 at 10:31 am

    It’s simple. You support what is existing: PHON, Craig Kelly and a few other LNP; you really get behind them. And you throw your fucking purity out. What do I mean by that: when The Climate Sceptics were going and had a chance of a senate seat in SA due to a complicated preferential situation this site eviscerated TCS strategy of putting the liars as 34th preference and the LNP 35th because that had more chance of working. Many declarations were made that TCS would be put last because they were impure and had compromised fucking principles.

    This is not a place to organise anything, or plot futile Quixote exploits, but to vent, toss around a few ideas and discuss shiny arses and a few other useless topics.

    Oh and also, money.

  78. Tom

    Another word for Muddy’s Catictionary: ScoMorbidity – the gall of retail politicians in blaming voters for their own incompetence and that of their Uniparty accomplices in their illegal political bubble like Dictator Dan Andrews of the “national cabinet”.

  79. Roger

    This is not a place to organise anything, or plot futile Quixote exploits, but to vent, toss around a few ideas and discuss shiny arses and a few other useless topics.

    Did you get that, ASIO?

  80. notafan

    Yes struth its all my fault.

    You didn’t nothing wrong.

  81. notafan

    What this country really needs is Christianity.

    Like Poland has.

  82. MemoryFault

    Just a quick heads up, everybody.

    We’re only about 150 posts off the magic 2,500 when the thread self-destructs.
    And last week we only made it to 2,379 before it ground to a halt.

    Reckon someone could email the Doomlord and let him know?
    I’d do it myself, except I’m not exactly in his good books right now.

  83. areff

    China virus’s latest Vic tally, according to 3AW: 428

    Well done, Dan, you jug-eared imbecile.

  84. Struth

    This is also a place where robust argument keeps you sane.
    It’s very beneficial or I would not be here.
    We are quite detached from each other, especially in regional Australia, suburban Australia and insanity is everywhere in Hivisistan.

    If you are off target you’ll soon be told here, which is as it should be.

  85. Struth

    Yes struth its all my fault.

    You didn’t nothing wrong.

    Apology accepted, now let’s move on.

  86. notafan

    How many very sick in hospital areff?

    They are still pretty flat numbers though

  87. Nick

    All those FB troops who roundly mocked Abbott for eating an onion, defending Andrews. Lol

  88. incoherent rambler

    Squabbling amongst yourselves children will get you nowhere.
    Stop it, at once, and go outside and do something constructive.

    Dickless Dan continues to rule the police state of Viktoristan because grownups continue to argue amongst themselves rather than face the real enemy.

  89. areff

    Little Jimmy Murdoch’s political patronage:

    https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=james+murdoch

    (not to be confused with the James Murdoch from Lockheed)

  90. MemoryFault

    It’s simple. You support what is existing: PHON, Craig Kelly and a few other LNP; you really get behind them.

    Yeah.
    Cos it’s been working so well for the past 54 years.
    Or put another way –

    Just give us a list of Lib, Lab, Nat, and LNP politicians who HAVEN’T sold us down the creek.
    And I’m referring to how they have actually voted, not what they have said.

  91. Roger

    What this country really needs is Christianity.

    Like Poland has.

    Nota, I agree on the need for Christianity but Poland is shaping up to be the next Ireland or Quebec.

    We need another model for the revival of the faith in the West.

  92. Old School Conservative

    Diogenes
    #3515840, posted on July 17, 2020 at 7:19 am
    I think they mean move the border checks to the Pacific Highway around the Chinderah Bridge to clear the traffic jams in Tweed,

    Ah, border checks not the border.
    Logical.

  93. notafan

    I don’t care what the model is Roger.

    But there are many bleating about Christian values who never darken the door of a church.

  94. Bruce of Newcastle

    We’re only about 150 posts off the magic 2,500 when the thread self-destructs.

    MF – The thread usually self destructs when it reaches the automatic expiry time. I can’t remember how long that is, about three days or so. If you look at the OTs that have died they do so exactly on the hour. Sinc has to remember to either start a new one before the expiry time or set the expiry later than the auto setting. Both of which are easy to forget.

  95. MemoryFault

    Squabbling amongst yourselves children will get you nowhere.
    Stop it, at once, and go outside and do something constructive.

    Rambler,
    Whenever our Malicious Mob start a pile on to destroy somebody, you are almost always the third wannabe volunteer to jump on board and gleefully join in. Right behind Dot and Fisky.

    You’re hardly in a position to be lecturing others.

  96. areff

    Hospital figures not out yet, Nota. 3AW generally gets the leaked number before the Hunchback does his daily press briefer, when the associated numbers are released. The Premier Putz is about to reach for the microphone in a minute or two.

  97. cohenite

    Did you get that, ASIO?

    That’s funny.

  98. MemoryFault

    Fair enough, thanks BoN.

  99. Roger

    Did you get that, ASIO?

    That’s funny.

    😉

  100. incoherent rambler

    Rambler,
    Whenever our Malicious Mob start a pile on to destroy somebody, you are almost always the third wannabe volunteer to jump on board and gleefully join in. Right behind Dot and Fisky.

    Absolutely false assertion.
    For starters, I’m usually the first.
    And I am, no wannabe. I am.

    You’re hardly in a position to be lecturing others.

    From where I stand (not sit), I am in an excellent position to lecture.

  101. Top Ender

    Some interesting photos of the Trinity nuclear test bomb, exploded 75 years ago this week.

  102. cohenite

    The last 15 minutes of Dan Bongino on what the left are and how they operate:

    https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/07/16/whats-the-deal-with-bigoted-celebrities/

  103. Infidel Tiger King

    China virus’s latest Vic tally, according to 3AW: 428

    Well done, Dan, you jug-eared imbecile.

    Crazy Jo Nova was posting this week that lockdowns were working because the rate of infection had remained constant. Oh dear.

    You can’t beat the virus, only mitigate.

    Victoria is lucky. They are getting it over with. The rest of us have it coming sooner or later.

  104. mh

    More than 400 new coronavirus cases will be announced in Victoria today, a new record tally the day after the state recorded 317 new cases.

  105. zyconoclast

    Now for some sanity

    Naked Kentucky man broke into home, ‘used mushrooms with Jesus,’ report says

    OWENSBORO, Ky. (WANE) — Police in Kentucky on Thursday arrested a man accused of breaking into a home after he reportedly claimed he “used mushrooms with Jesus.”

    Deputies responded early Thursday to a report of burglary and a man running down a road nude. When they arrived, they found 41-year-old John Stefanopoulos at a home he had allegedly forced his way into, according to an arrest report.

    After deputies asked the man multiple times to get on the ground, he began running toward the officers, yelling profanities. A deputy then used his Taser on him, the report said.

    While in handcuffs, Stefanopoulos jumped to his feet and ran toward a deputy again, according to the report.

    While in custody, Stefanopoulos reportedly said he had “used mushrooms with Jesus and that they were playing a virtual reality video game together,” the report said.

    Investigators found blood smeared on the walls and windows of the home and several broken pieces of glass. The man apparently had forced his way into the home to burglarize it, police said.

    Stefanopoulos was charged with indecent exposure, burglary, criminal mischief, resisting arrest, public intoxication and menacing.

  106. max

    From Roger’s link above:

    After Trump, you will never see another Republican president in your lifetime. The brand is too toxic among people my age. It doesn’t matter whether or not we’re Democrats — we’re never going to vote Republican after this.

    The student is an independent and a churchgoing Christian who leans left because of climate change and economic insecurity. A Bernie Bro type, though not really ideological. He said he believes that the GOP offers him nothing, and that Trump has catalyzed such hatred for the Republican Party in his generation that no Republican candidate in the future, no matter how competent and attractive, will be able to overcome the disadvantage.

    The American student who told me that is three years younger than Lukasz Kozuchowski. Make of that what you will. What’s happening in Poland is only the local version of what’s happening all over the West.

  107. Leigh Lowe

    I have been watching the “Vote the sitting member last” thing for months knowing that one day the trap would spring.
    Today it came.
    Hoist on his own petard, as Walter Brennan used to say.

  108. Struth

    Remember, you cannot stop the virus.
    You’ll starve locked in your homes before that happens.
    Those people talking about stopping it are not stupid, they are traitors.

    Victoria has the winter sniffles because it is what always happens down there in winter.
    It is being reported as a deadly infection.
    This has been now proven to be a lie.
    A Blatant lie.
    Propaganda.
    Yet those with one foot in the grave who usually die from the cold or flu finishing them off are dying in exactly the same manner as they always have and will continue to do so.
    Most of us will most likely die from many old age health problems combining with a cold or flu to finish us orf.
    IF WE ARE LUCKY.
    I detest the Nay sayers here.
    Do not listen to them when they say all is pointless, why bother…….they might have no problem in bending over and taking it good and hard but some of you might.
    You have as much power as the next nobody PLUS you have the truth on your side.
    You have common sense.
    Write letters and get people accountable.

  109. Leigh Lowe

    zyconoclast

    #3516079, posted on July 17, 2020 at 11:19 am

    Now for some sanity

    Naked Kentucky man broke into home, ‘used mushrooms with Jesus,’ report says

    OWENSBORO, Ky. (WANE) — Police in Kentucky on Thursday arrested a man accused of breaking into a home after he reportedly claimed he “used mushrooms with Jesus.”

    Yes.
    I was pretty sure egg_ was posting from another time zone.
    Or another planet.

  110. egg_

    Are you calling Cardimona a nutter?
    Are you?
    ARE YOU???

    The clown posse midget rides in on his Shetland pony.

  111. Nick

    This blog never ceases to make me laugh

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    The student is an independent and a churchgoing Christian who leans left because of climate change and economic insecurity.

    He’s going to have a road to Damascus moment when he realises climate change is a scam. And as for economic insecurity he obviously doesn’t read the Bible that much. You can only have one master…

  113. Nick

    Oh oh it’s Shroom’ o clock

  114. egg_

    I was pretty sure egg_ was

    Clown.

  115. zyconoclast

    From Roger’s link above:

    After Trump, you will never see another Republican president in your lifetime. The brand is too toxic among people my age. It doesn’t matter whether or not we’re Democrats — we’re never going to vote Republican after this.

    It has nothing to do with a toxic brand.

    It has everything to do with demographics.

    Everyone other other than whites vote, by a large majority, for the Dems.
    This segment of the population is literally dying of old age.

    The majority population of school children are now becoming non-white.

    No amount of Candice Owens, 1950s Cuban exiles etc will help swing the vote.

  116. MemoryFault

    Low Lowe.
    You’ve spent the entire morning proving yourself to be an idiot.
    Why don’t you quit while you’re behind?

  117. egg_

    This is also a place where robust argument keeps you sane.
    It’s very beneficial or I would not be here.
    We are quite detached from each other, especially in regional Australia, suburban Australia and insanity is everywhere in Hivisistan.

    Till the clown posse arrives.

    150 Medical staff in Vicco with the beer bug?

    Funny all the weird sh1t is happening in the clown posse State, speaking of other planets.

    What’s in the water down there?

  118. Old School Conservative

    Struth
    #3515843, posted on July 17, 2020 at 7:22 am
    The ship’s captain (a pirate in disguise), keeps people from escaping the ship by force of arms, telling them they will all hit an ice burg and die if allowed the freedom of rowing away.

    Henry Ergas (today’s Australian) explains why the politicians get away with it:
    The number of cases and of fatalities is easily observable; the harm imposed by the clampdown is not, and is obscured by torrents of public spending whose costs will fall largely on future generations.

  119. Farmer Gez

    Radio is reporting that just over 400 cases in Vic.

    Dictator Dan the disaster man.

  120. Nick

    Low Lowe.
    You’ve spent the entire morning proving yourself to be an idiot.
    Why don’t you quit while you’re behind?

    Well, it hasn’t exactly worked for you has it ?

  121. Top Ender

    An NT resident with a letter published in the NT News today – sums it up well.

    Virus panic too costly

    THE scaremongering and hysteria on COVID-19 is unbelievable considering the facts of the virus.

    There have been 10,495 cases in Australia of which 7928 people have recovered and there have been 111 deaths. During the 2009 swine flu pandemic there were 37,537 cases and 191 deaths in Australia. There were no lockdowns or border restrictions so why are we treating COVID-19 differently?

    The modelling of large numbers of COVID-19 deaths and sickness has proven to be inaccurate. Our hospitals have not been overwhelmed and Australia has had very few deaths from this virus, far fewer than the influenza last year (several thousand).

    In the US there have been very large numbers of COVID-19 cases and deaths but if you look into them, most were caused by other illnesses and not directly by COVID-19. Medical practitioners were told to write up deaths to COVID-19 even if the patients were dying from other illnesses, but also had COVID-19 in their bodies. This is because US hospitals are incentivised as they receive payments from the government for COVID-19 deaths. The US population is also unhealthy with very high numbers with obesity, diabetes and other illnesses.

    The facts show that most healthy people will not get severely sick and they will recover and live normal lives. Most young people will be fine but the elderly and vulnerable with weak immune systems and existing medical conditions need to be protected. We don’t need to lock down everyone and keep borders closed to do that.

    Locking down states and territories all the time and closing borders is going to destroy our economy, send businesses broke and put people out of work, perhaps permanently. We are continuing to see very large numbers of people with mental illnesses such as depression and the number of people committing suicide has risen substantially. All this can be directly attributed to COVID-19 lockdowns.

    Domestic violence has also dramatically increased from unnecessary lockdowns. The government is handing out taxpayers’ money to fund all these side effects from lockdowns and border closures and this spending will be a huge burden on our economy and future generations. This has to stop or Australia will be in a mess and the consequences will be far greater than COVID-19.

    Tom, Virginia

  122. egg_

    Low Lowe.
    You’ve spent the entire morning proving yourself to be an idiot.

    The would be lawyer “tick and flick” ijiot?
    That one?

  123. liliana

    Do women like being treated as morons by other women?

    It’d be nice to see some pushback against the wall-to-wall female neighborhood fascists endlessly indulged by 90% of the media, especially the commercial TV networks (to which Calli subjects herself to so much stupidity so we don’t have to).

    No we don’t. It’s just embarrassing.

    Unfortunately these types are held up as role models and are the ones that get promoted. I’ve witnessed this in my department where young women have reinvented themselves to fit the mould and parrot the latest slogan like good little woke foot soldiers – all that is missing is the little red book. Virtue signalling and leftism in entrenched in the work culture. If you push back and challenge the group think you are quickly made persona non grata.

    As for the MSM – they are nothing more than the Marxist propaganda department.

  124. egg_

    Always put the sitting member last.
    Mostly.
    Sometimes.

    Da ironing of da bolding.

  125. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Some interesting photos of the Trinity nuclear test bomb, exploded 75 years ago this week.

    Top Ender, when the Oz ran that story a couple of days ago, the armchair commando’s were claiming that it wasn’t the two atomic bombings that forced the surrender of Japan – it was the final threat of Soviet invasion. What are your thoughts on that?

  126. Cassie of Sydney

    Well last May, here in the electorate of Wentworth, I did put the sitting member last. The parasitic independent lesbian fraud represented Wentworth for a whole seven months…seven months too long.

  127. egg_

    QED: we lose, and will keep losing.

    Should Victoria he held up as a model of failure in all respects?

    Rather than focussing Federally, start in one’s own State, before lecturing others?

  128. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault
    #3515981, posted on July 17, 2020 at 10:03 am
    Why don’t WE, organise, and do the same?

    Good morning Gilas.
    I take your point, but you re late to the party.

    Both Struth and I accept that it may very well come to that, Struth even more so than me. And we are both prepared to go whatever lengths necessary, including violence and armed resistance.

    And this from the moron who accuses others of “trying to shut the blog down”.
    Sinc, as one of the more long-standing commenters here, can you please put a lid on this?
    Look, I know the old buffoon is just letting off steam, and these days the only shots he is likely to fire are into a Kleenex, but I worry about any other unhinged nutters who might read it and take it as inspiration.
    And, as someone who treasures this site deeply, I would hate to see selective quoting of a couple of mouthy codgers draw the heat to you and the blog.

  129. cohenite

    I hate to hear that, but we can’t keep our heads in the ground. Besides, this sounds familiar to American ears. In a private exchange last week, an American college student and reader of my blog told me (I paraphrase):

    After Trump, you will never see another Republican president in your lifetime. The brand is too toxic among people my age. It doesn’t matter whether or not we’re Democrats — we’re never going to vote Republican after this.

    The student is an independent and a churchgoing Christian who leans left because of climate change and economic insecurity. A Bernie Bro type, though not really ideological. He said he believes that the GOP offers him nothing, and that Trump has catalyzed such hatred for the Republican Party in his generation that no Republican candidate in the future, no matter how competent and attractive, will be able to overcome the disadvantage.

    The American student who told me that is three years younger than Lukasz Kozuchowski. Make of that what you will. What’s happening in Poland is only the local version of what’s happening all over the West.

    Whether that is a product of age, with young people inherently having this perspective, or whether it is due to the relentless education propaganda from teachers, the most vile of the professions, and the media, or both is moot.

  130. MemoryFault

    Well, it hasn’t exactly worked for you has it ?

    Hasn’t it, Nick?
    Anybody giving this blog even a cursory glance can see which on of the three of has addressed several different commenters on a wide variety of subjects, and which two of the three of us started off with a deliberate and obvious lie and have now spent the entire morning trying to give it some legs, to the exclusion of everything else.

    I’m not too worried.

  131. egg_

    Another word for Muddy’s Catictionary: ScoMorbidity

    That deserves to get around, so that he hears it.

  132. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3516112, posted on July 17, 2020 at 11:41 am
    Well last May, here in the electorate of Wentworth, I did put the sitting member last. The parasitic independent lesbian fraud represented Wentworth for a whole seven months…seven months too long.

    Yes, but did you do it as a blind (cough) “strategy” advised to you by someone else, or a considered view of the merits (or otherwise) of the candidates?

  133. Diogenes

    Victoria’s pandemic nightmare is a consequence of the disorder that has accompanied Daniel Andrews’s leadership of the state. In a modern democracy with universal healthcare, vulnerable populations should not have to suffer inequality of health outcomes.

    Perhaps the blame lies partially with 60 minutes. VicALP & MSM were engaging so hard in transcendental masturbation, that everybody took their eyes off the ball.

  134. Leigh Lowe

    This Revolution is proudly sponsored by Jason Recliners.

  135. cohenite

    Leigh Lowe
    #3516114, posted on July 17, 2020 at 11:42 am

    I thought MV was resisting voting cards. Maybe the armed resistance part comes about when he folds them into F-35 shapes and throws them at people.

  136. Top Ender

    Zulu:

    Could the USSR’s entry into the war have made a difference?
    • No – they had no capacity for amphibious assault
    o Trying to integrate them into the USA’s and Britain’s would have been disastrous
    • They had no useful capacity for long-range air attack. Ditto to any efforts to integrate them.
    • Language difficulties would have been a major obstacle.

    On the mainland the USSR would have made a difference, but the centre of gravity was the Home Islands.

    The Japanese weren’t that afraid of the USSR. They had beaten Russia in 1907 at sea. In fact there was a fight in August 1945 where the Soviets tried to take a piece of Japanese territory and suffered a reversal with heavy losses.

  137. Good morning all.
    I see SloMo has a piece in today’s Hun. The opening paragraph:

    ‘Australian’s have faced the COVID-19 pandemic with resilience, courage and compassion.’

    Anyone else see the problem with that utterance? Australian people have been cowed into submission by tyrants masquerading as Chief Medical Officers and fuckwit Premiers wanting to outdo each other.
    Then he goes on to say that ADF personnel will be deployed to help with testing and assistance with compliance with orders. No SloMo, there is no resilience, no courage. Just domination of a cowed populace. FMD

  138. egg_

    Seriously, a simple, polite question and we are ‘agents’ ‘destroying the blog’?

    It’s the Open Thread open sewer, just like Twitter.
    Try other threads, cellar dweller.

  139. dover_beach

    Late to this:

    It’s fairly typical sophistry and fundamentally dishonest. There’s no reason why in principle you can’t pass a law saying that only pre-menopausal women can marry men with a significant sperm count. This would make the link with procreation explicit.

    That would also prohibit homosexual ‘marriage’ but would be unkind to old heterosexuals. If you’re effectively going to drop the procreation condition to be kind to old heterosexuals, you are in a hard place when you decline to drop it for homosexuals.

    This fundamentally misunderstands what Keyes argued. He didn’t drop the ‘procreation condition’, he simply argued that given marriage involves the generation, care, and education of children, it must at the very least involve a life-long union between a man and woman. That isn’t sophistry or dishonesty. There is nothing about that basic definition that doesn’t follow from the end of marriage as described. Your proposal simply further narrows the existing definition but does nothing to the definition itself. Moreover, it doesn’t avoid the problem you believe the definition above encounters and which yours purportedly avoids; that is, pre-menopausal women can nevertheless still find it difficult to fall pregnant whatever the sperm count of their spouse. Nevertheless, your objection misses the mark. As Keyes himself said, the union of a man and a woman, typically and potentially, produces a child. In other words, it is within the power (potentia) of such a union to produce children. Something must intervene to prevent this, like age, impotence, sterility, damage to the uterine wall, and the like. Consequently, there is no analogy between the ‘older heterosexual’ couple and a homosexual couple because it is never in the power of a homosexual couple to produce children; you cannot even speak of there being a failure where there is no potentia.

  140. Cassie of Sydney

    “EvilElvis
    #3516020, posted on July 17, 2020 at 10:33 am”

    Thanks EE….I agree entirely with your comment.

  141. William the Conjuror

    Victoria COVID-19.

    3 more deaths, 428 new cases, 122 in hospital, 31 in intensive care.

  142. Nick

    Leigh, walking sticks can lead to violent revolution

  143. Dr Faustus

    NSW on the edge of the abyss:

    “For weddings and corporate events, the maximum number is 100, but again, completely seated, no dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    It’s always the singing that gets you.

  144. Farmer Gez

    Herd immunity, will it work?
    Victorians are now part of a big unplanned (like all our efforts) experimental trial.

    The school holidays made sure country Victorians don’t miss out.

    Chairman Dan on air bagging a couple who went to their holiday house at Rye and got caught, meanwhile a copper who tested positive in Melbourne went to Shepparton and started a panic.

    Keep up the good work troops.

  145. Tom

    I think I’d quite like a Jason Recliner to replace this shitty old office chair whose air coil keeps collapsing. Sick of pumping the thing up. #FirstWorldProblems

  146. Cassie of Sydney

    “Leigh Lowe
    #3516120, posted on July 17, 2020 at 11:44 am
    Cassie of Sydney
    #3516112, posted on July 17, 2020 at 11:41 am
    Well last May, here in the electorate of Wentworth, I did put the sitting member last. The parasitic independent lesbian fraud represented Wentworth for a whole seven months…seven months too long.

    Yes, but did you do it as a blind (cough) “strategy” advised to you by someone else, or a considered view of the merits (or otherwise) of the candidates?”

    It was a considered view…..I never follow any of the party’s preferences. I always do my own preferencing…in the House of Reps and in the Senate. I would have preferred a Labor win in Wentworth (unlikely) over the lesbian fraud. Anyway, the lesbian fraud was a Labor plant anyway…the Labor candidate deliberately ran low

  147. egg_

    What does this crazy murder mystery conspiracy theory need to spice it up?

    Old News.
    There was a murderous knife wielding Tranny at a servo in Sydney yonks ago.

  148. duncanm

    Has the seven degrees of Kevin Bacon come full circle? Are we all in a real-life revival of the movie Footloose?

    “We absolutely need everybody seated when they are in a venue. No dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.

  149. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha #3515927, posted on July 17, 2020 at 9:05 am
    Comment in moderation – seems Shamina Begum, the English schoolgirl, who went to join the headchoppers, has won her fight to return to Britain, and try to have her citizenship restored.

    The court that has just allowed this murderous hater of western civilisation Jihadist to live in Britain is the same court that delivered a criminal conviction to Count Dankula for telling a joke.

  150. Knuckle Dragger

    It’s Friday.

    The OT implodes at midnight.

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    *bellwether*

    /pedant

  152. Under the heading ‘Victoria, We Are With You’, so laughably stupid. I wonder if he had KMPG consultants write up that shit.

  153. MemoryFault

    No we don’t. It’s just embarrassing.
    Unfortunately these types are held up as role models and are the ones that get promoted.

    Good morning Liliana.
    You are absolutely correct. It is all very much “smoke and mirrors” to create a false impression.

    Calli made a rather astute observation yesterday, relative to all this. There had been some discussion about how all the polls showed Trump was doing very badly, and people weren’t going to vote for him.

    Calli wrote, and I agree entirely, that people are now so afraid of retribution for their opinions, both at work and at home, that they responded to such questions with whatever they judged to be the “correct” answer, regardless of how they personally felt. As such, opinion polls were now worthless.

  154. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    • No – they had no capacity for amphibious assault

    Thanks for that – I did read somewhere – D.M. Giacomo “Hell To Pay” that any attempt at invasion would have launched from ship’s lifeboats, and confiscated fishing boats, but I was wondering about the overall picture.

    FWIW – your book should be in my mailbox this afternoon…

  155. egg_

    I don’t know how old the egg is, but could I just put a general health warning out there.

    Minimal coffee and just dealing with a clown posse, Joh.

    But thanks for your concern, anyway.

  156. John Brumble

    Hey cohenite! Do you think the America College Student started the conversation with “Hi Alan!”?

    “I’m an independent and a churchgoing Christian who leans left because of climate change and economic insecurity.”

    Yeah, right.

  157. twostix

    “For weddings and corporate events, the maximum number is 100, but again, completely seated, no dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    1950’s methodists win.

  158. Cassie of Sydney

    I don’t recall the Cronulla riots of 2005 overturning any government…or did I miss something?

  159. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Decent, soaking, rains through most of the West Australian Wheatbelt…..

  160. egg_

    Well we can’t keep going lockdown up lockdown down.

    Crap!
    “Zigzag”.
    /CHO Kerry Chant

  161. Davey Boy

    In more “we’re all in this together” news:

    Salary rise for staff but not for councillors

    COUNCIL staff will get a pay bump this month although there will be no pay rises for Cumberland’s 14 councillors this financial year.

    The Local Government Remuneration Tribunal (LGRT) classifies Cumberland as one of 11 Metropolitan Large councils and in a decision made last month, cited the impact of Covid-19 as a key factor in opting not to increase the annual fees paid to councillors and mayors.
    Each year the Tribunal issues a minimum and maximum range of fees payable to elected councillors, which they are then permitted to determine themselves, with Cumberland’s 14 councillors paid the maximum annual fee allowable of $30,410, while Mayor Steve Christou receives $88,600.

    It is better news for staff who will receive a pay rise effective from July 1 following months of negotiations between Local Government NSW (LGNSW) and industry unions.
    LGNSW President Linda Scott said the 1.5 per cent pay increase this year, with a two per cent increase in each of the following two years, was a “sustainable increase for councils to manage”.

    The cash, it just keeps on raining down from on high. Poor sod ratepayers.

  162. Diogenes

    It’s the QLD Government that has the QLD border closed. It has no authority to set up and man the blockade within NSW. The NSW Government will not do so as, so far, it has no intention of closing the NSW northern border.

    Don’t shoot me! It’s not my proposal!
    The idea was put forward to help fix Tweed Heads and Coolangatta* both of which have come to a virtual standstill, and help residents on both sides of Pieceofshit’s palisade who work/access medical and professional services/shop/bank/ etc on the other side of the border.

    *businesses in Coolie are reported as claiming that since the Clayton’s border reopening last Friday their turnover has fallen by 1/3 compared to when it was shut to everybody unless you had an exemption.

  163. Top Ender

    Just got mine Zulu – heart-stopping moment.

    Now the work begins leading up to 6-9 August.

  164. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘whatever lengths necessary, including violence and armed resistance.’

    Except not me personally. Oh no. That’s for the rest of the hamsters.

    Does Struth know he’s just been roped into an active campaign of violent, armed resistance? That’s he’s now the Hess to your (pissweak) Hitler? Have the AKs been dug up and oiled yet?

    Get back in the recliner you stupid crank. You’ll knock your scones over waving that stick at the TV.

    Fuck off Fault. The most stupid thing written here this week, and that includes the hieroglyphics from the overcompensating inadequate self-quoter.

    Just fuck off. Another flounce would be both hilarious, and appreciated. Be aware though, you’ve got some work to do to beat the theatre involved in the last one.

  165. Top Ender

    “We absolutely need everybody seated when they are in a venue. No dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    So does that mean Born To Hand Jive?

  166. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Jason Recliners’

    Bastard LL. Hadn’t gone up to read that.

    Snap. Totes whatevs.

  167. egg_

    We wake to another day of passengers aboard the Titanic fighting over who gets into the life boats. Still fearing for their lives, no one notices the ship is still afloat, motionless, months after it hit the ice burg , with only a scratch on the hull. The ship’s captain (a pirate in disguise), keeps people from escaping the ship by force of arms, telling them they will all hit an ice burg and die if allowed the freedom of rowing away.
    The rival company (the red flag lines) is ecstatic and secretly pays off the pirate to keep the hostages locked down.

    Nailed it.
    The minimalist lockdown States Globally should fare better Economically in the long run.
    Per Cardi’s map, the outbreaks appear to be regional, delineated by Latitudes – Climes.
    Victoria, being closer to the Pole, may fit with the above.

  168. EvilElvis

    Herd immunity, will it work?
    Victorians are now part of a big unplanned (like all our efforts) experimental trial.

    If only they had the idea to protect the vulnerable and go ‘fuck it! Everyone else go about your day!’. Could be Australia’s success story.

    Gez, if only the pollies dealt with shit like us normal folk. Sometimes when you absolutely control a situation that’s not great it’s good to drop the reigns and go bugger it all. A lot of the time magic happens.

  169. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Vote your sitting member last.’

    I don’t think anyone’s said that before here, so I’m claiming it.

    It’s all in my pamphlet.

  170. EvilElvis

    Decent, soaking, rains through most of the West Australian Wheatbelt…..

    Hope you gents are up to your armpits in it later in the year. All the best.

    Which area where you in, Zulu? Edging the goldfields somewhere if I remember?

  171. Leigh Lowe

    Tom
    #3516135, posted on July 17, 2020 at 11:51 am
    I think I’d quite like a Jason Recliner to replace this shitty old office chair whose air coil keeps collapsing. Sick of pumping the thing up. #FirstWorldProblems

    I got two words for you Tommy.
    38mm plastic drain pipe.
    Hacksaw.
    Gaffer tape.
    .
    Well that’s more than two words, but you know.

  172. EvilElvis

    A lot of the time magic happens.

    That’s torn it.

    Tel, if you’re under 5’10” go for a Hilux. They are reliable but are excruciatingly bland and uncomfortable otherwise. If Calli can put a ‘Magic Happens’ sticker on the Catallaxy family ute I could be swayed though.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3516172, posted on July 17, 2020 at 12:10 pm
    ‘Vote your sitting member last.’

    I don’t think anyone’s said that before here, so I’m claiming it.

    It’s all in my pamphlet.

    Vote your sitting member last.
    .
    .
    * Serving suggestion only.
    ** May contain traces of nuts.
    *** Contents may not be as depicted on the carton.
    **** Individual results may vary.
    ***** Not suitable for infants over 75.

  174. Farmer Gez

    Gez, if only the pollies dealt with shit like us normal folk.

    Good news Elvis.

    My mum is in aged care but luckily it’s staffed by good local ladies who have made a pact with each other that no of them would leave the area on holidays or head to Melbourne. That’s what caring dedicated staff do.

  175. Top Ender

    685 people in four hours announced as coming into the NT.

    From 5am to 9am this morning.

    Local media in the NT are going into overdrive.

    “Three people a minute”!!

    About 70% of callers to radio, and letters/texts to editors seem to be against it. Want the NT sealed up “until the virus is eliminated” or a vaccine is available.

    The tourism industry here has just about collapsed but a few operators are starting to put their heads up.

  176. MemoryFault

    For those of you who tuned in late, there’s an excellent post upthread by Ellen of Tasmania at 8.58am that is worth scrolling back and having a read. Especially if you watched and valued the video posted yesterday morning about the Event 201 Conference.

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    “For weddings and corporate events, the maximum number is 100, but again, completely seated, no dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    No singing?

    3 churches sue Newsom after California bans singing in places of worship because of coronavirus (today)

    I can see where this ban of church practice is going. The Left hates Christianity.

  178. It has nothing to do with a toxic brand.

    It has everything to do with demographics

    Maybe the Republicans could try appealing to people other than old white men and their enablers.

  179. EvilElvis

    My mum is in aged care but luckily it’s staffed by good local ladies who have made a pact with each other that no of them would leave the area on holidays or head to Melbourne. That’s what caring dedicated staff do.

    That’s great to hear. It’s a wonder how caring people with common sense can be a massive comfort.

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3516162, posted on July 17, 2020 at 12:04 pm
    ‘whatever lengths necessary, including violence and armed resistance.’

    Except not me personally. Oh no. That’s for the rest of the hamsters.

    Does Struth know he’s just been roped into an active campaign of violent, armed resistance? That’s he’s now the Hess to your (pissweak) Hitler? Have the AKs been dug up and oiled yet?

    Well, is Struth in?
    Hard to know, really.

    MemoryFault
    #3515981, posted on July 17, 2020 at 10:03 am
    Why don’t WE, organise, and do the same?

    Good morning Gilas.
    I take your point, but you re late to the party.

    Both Struth and I accept that it may very well come to that, Struth even more so than me. And we are both prepared to go whatever lengths necessary, including violence and armed resistance. I can’t speak for Struth, but I already have a close knit group prepared with me, to stand, and if necessary, fall, defending what we believe in.

    So Fault ‘can’t speak for Struth’, but he’s definitely in.
    Maybe.
    Probably.
    Perhaps.

  181. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From EvilElvis at 12:10 pm:

    “Decent, soaking, rains through most of the West Australian Wheatbelt…..

    Hope you gents are up to your armpits in it later in the year. All the best.

    Which area where you in, Zulu? Edging the goldfields somewhere if I remember?”

    He sold the spread.

    Zulu’s gone to Queensland droving, and we don’t know where he are.

  182. egg_

    Squabbling amongst yourselves children will get you nowhere.
    Stop it, at once, and go outside and do something constructive.

    Dickless Dan continues to rule the police state of Viktoristan because grownups continue to argue amongst themselves rather than face the real enemy.

    +1

    Apologies for going in a bit hard on the Viccos.
    The bizarre recent trolling by a bunch of newcomers since the beer bug is what had me confused, likely why KD and myself found us facing each other in a pub brawl.

  183. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe the Republicans could try appealing to people other than old white men and their enablers.

    Joe Biden is a young hip black tranny! I always knew that M0nts.

  184. Old School Conservative

    Diogenes
    #3516159, posted on July 17, 2020 at 12:03 pm
    Don’t shoot me! It’s not my proposal!

    I’ll do what I should have done earlier – research instead of rely on memory.
    Gold Coast Mayor Tom Tate has proposed absorbing Tweed Heads into Queensland by moving the border 7km south to the Tweed River. Tate revived the call on Alan Jones last night.
    Palaszczuk is against it.
    Tweed Deputy Mayor Chris Cherry is against it.
    Business and community leaders on the Gold Coast have widely backed the mayor’s move.
    75% of the 1300 readers of the Gold Coast Bulletin are in favour.

    I’d be interested to read any document which outlines the process for a border change. Probably the Constitution.

  185. Bruce of Newcastle

    Incidentally, M0nty, FTA channel 7 is right now running “Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story”.
    You could always watch it to see what Trump’s housing guy is like.

  186. Dr Faustus

    A reminder on where the enthusiasm for ‘herd immunity’ came from.

    Sir Patrick initially suggested that if about 45 million Brits caught the disease things would all work out swimmingly. His advice was taken in Australia – just before he was quietly led away behind the NHS chook shed and shot.

  187. Boambee John

    Maybe the Republicans could try appealing to people other than old white men and their enablers.

    Cays a middle aged white man with health issues.

    Back in the basement m0nty, before the Kung Flu gets you!

  188. Boambee John

    Says, though marooning m0nty on a small island by himself would keep him safe, if hungry.

  189. Cassie of Sydney

    ““For weddings and corporate events, the maximum number is 100, but again, completely seated, no dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.”

    So has Gladslag mentioned what, if any, specific restrictions will apply to the next far-left, progressive mass gathering? Once again it is ordinary, hard working, decent Australians who have to carry the load for the fact that various state governments, including the NSW government, did NOTHING to stop the BLM demonstrations last month. And don’t anyone try and tell me that Gladslag and her police minister, Elliott, got a court order to prevent that mass demonstration….at first they prevaricate and obfuscated and it was only at the eleventh hour…after the backlash became apparent on radio stations such as 2GB…that Gladslag and Elliott attempted to do something. They also bear the responsibility for this. They are all scum

    Has Gladslag said anything about specific restrictions when the next far-let mass demonstration occurs?

  190. What does Fuentes say about this…..oh, that’s right, he says “If you can’t handle the heat, get BACK, IN, THE KITCHEN!”

    “she cried at work daily”

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/15-women-accuse-washingtons-nfl-team-of-rampant-sexual-harassment-in-front-office-report-2020-07-16?mod=home-page

  191. Why not move the NSW border north?
    It’s not as if the Gold Coast is recognised by the rest of Qld anyway.

  192. cohenite

    John Brumble
    #3516150, posted on July 17, 2020 at 11:57 am
    Hey cohenite! Do you think the America College Student started the conversation with “Hi Alan!”?

    “I’m an independent and a churchgoing Christian who leans left because of climate change and economic insecurity.”

    Yeah, right.

    Correct. I’ve had numerous arguments (no seriously) with idiots on space chook and that shit site Quora who insist they’re former Trump voters and/or disgruntled GoPs. They’re all liars. Trump supporters lie to pollsters and the left lie about being reformed Trump supporters.

  193. Roger

    He’s going to have a road to Damascus moment when he realises climate change is a scam. And as for economic insecurity he obviously doesn’t read the Bible that much. You can only have one master…

    Biblical literacy is poor even among evangelicals, Bruce.

    Too many now go by feelings.

    He’ll learn what ‘toxic’ really means when there’s a Socialist boot stomping on his face everyday.

  194. Infidel Tiger King

    ““For weddings and corporate events, the maximum number is 100, but again, completely seated, no dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.”

    Won’t bother the Baptists. Everyone else is screwed.

  195. MemoryFault

    Why not move the NSW border north?

    Excellent idea, Sal.
    Move it to the Brisbane River and make a northern city – say Rockhampton or Townsville – the capital.

  196. incoherent rambler

    Talking to a business owner.
    Small VIK outer suburban business that last year was doing about 20K per week.
    This month, $150 per week. Last month, $1,700 (for the month).

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’ll add this one:

    Poll: 90 Percent of Evangelicals Support Donald Trump’s Re-Election (13 Jul)

    Easy to explicate when you can see what is going on with Biden and the Left. Jesus statue beheadings and church burnings focus minds also.

  198. Roger

    BREAKING:

    The National Cabinet has now banned sex.

    They were concerned it might lead to dancing.

  199. MemoryFault

    Poll: 90 Percent of Evangelicals Support Donald Trump’s Re-Election

    American pentecostals re very big on gun ownership, as well.

  200. Perth Trader

    Ummm…about this wedding thing. Can the bride and groom dance?….How are they going to have sex?

  201. egg_

    Q. Could a bunch of CMOs run a school tuck shop?

  202. Old School Conservative

    ““For weddings and corporate events, the maximum number is 100, but again, completely seated, no dancing, no singing, no mingling,” Ms Berejiklian said.”

    From Mrs OSC – “Why would you bother?”
    Yep. Politicians, openly driving our society underground since January 2020

  203. C.L.

    This just in:

    Victoria has recorded 428 new coronavirus cases, the highest daily increase since the pandemic began, and another three people have died from the virus.

    Premier Daniel Andrews said a man in his 70s, a man in his 80s and a woman in her 80s died from coronavirus overnight, bringing the state’s death toll to 32.

    ABC.

  204. Old School Conservative

    Some History
    #3516210, posted on July 17, 2020 at 12:42 pm
    Gladys & Cherry Kant
    https://imgur.com/hifw6SS

    I ‘d like to report a breach of government restrictions to the manager please.
    The woman in black is hand jiving; that’s against the no dancing rule.

  205. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault

    #3516180, posted on July 17, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    For those of you who tuned in late, there’s an excellent post upthread by Ellen of Tasmania at 8.58am that is worth scrolling back and having a read.

    And whilst you are scrolling back there are a couple of exvellent posts pulling apart the old “vote the sitting member last” bullshit.

  206. OSC:

    Gold Coast Mayor Tom Tate has proposed absorbing Tweed Heads into Queensland by moving the border 7km south to the Tweed River.

    Move it north to Toowoomba.

    Brisbane is a voracious tick that is is sucking the guts out of FNQ, and holding it back from development.

  207. Perth Trader

    I had a thought last night…’how many cabin crew , pilots , ground crew and airport staff are on job keeper’?

  208. Diogenes

    Why not move the NSW border north?

    F-i-L says the checkpoints should be moved further north up to Currumbin Creek. There are only a few crossings that need to be manned, so that the locals who so looove Pieceofshits Palisade will be stuck with the shit and inconvenience they are currently doling out to Tweed Heads residents – which Pieceofshit doesn’t care about – they don’t vote for her anyway.

  209. Roger

    Q. Could a bunch of CMOs run a school tuck shop?

    Can you imagine the menu?

  210. Perth Trader

    Is job keeper , keeping virgin and qantas afloat and flying?

  211. Bruce of Newcastle

    Q. Could a bunch of CMOs run a school tuck shop?

    Can you imagine the menu?

    CMO stands for Chef Michelle Obama?

  212. Struth

    FMD.
    Just back from a different hairdresser than the usual one who was too busy.

    Bloody women.

    Television on in salon, and they stop to watch nine propaganda show of Commo Dan announcing old people have died, the sky is grey and water is wet.

    They tut -tutted and said to each other, horrifying isn’t it? We’ve got to keep these Victorians out.

    We need to all go into lock down again………………….although later on in the conversation the stupid bitch said she stayed open over the entire previous lock down because her regulars would have been too upset.

    I asked her how long she’d been in town and where she was from, and dumb as a box of rocks she says……………….Shepparton VICTORIA.
    She was off with the fairies, You know the type, they don’t know how to take straight forward conversation and generally make you feel like you might actually be talking to a retard.

    I was in an hysterics induced mental asylum just then.

    NO bloody barbers around here, all frigging hair “salons”….it’s bloody sexist.
    We should never have given them the vote.

  213. cohenite

    The BLM and anti Trump inspiration:

    “On August 19, 1966 – Chinese students launched a fight for social justice to fight for the rights of the oppressed in China. It was widely believed that the ‘patriarchal system’ in China had been created by the elites and held down women, minorities, and the working class. The students cried out for a revolution and change, and consequentially launched the infamous Chinese Cultural Revolution.

    Students put a red band around their arm to stand in solidarity with the oppressed and called for a change on old ideas that they called the ‘Four Olds.’ The Four Olds were: Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Ideas.

    The movement was supported by the Chinese media.

    Mass demonstrations and looting by the students ensued.

    Statues were torn down.

    Chinese architecture was destroyed.

    Classical literature and Chinese paintings were torn apart and burned.

    Temples were desecrated.

    The Cemetery of Confucius was attacked.

    The corpse of the 76th-generation Duke Yansheng was removed from its grave and hung from a tree.

    Wealthy homes were attacked and destroyed.

    Many families’ long-kept genealogy books were burned to ashes.

    All of history, in short, was to be removed and replaced. This was the central meaning of Cultural Revolution: That China was going to destroy every trace of its bourgeois (privileged) past and replace it with a new culture built on the principles of Maoism and Marxism.

    Communist leaders like President Liu Shaoqi were taken out of power and replaced with men Mao believed were not critical of his reign.

    Public leaders who were considered to be oppressive were tried by angry mobs and vigilantes.

    Three days later, August 22, 1966, a central directive was issued to stop police intervention. The police were disbanded in the city and the students formed a community solution called the RED GUARD. The RED GUARDS policed the communities and punished anyone who did not agree with their ideas. Even people that supported the movement, but had bad thoughts (“wrong thinking”) could be punished.

    Though many Christians supported the movement in the beginning, they quickly became the number one target of the RED GUARDS and public trials were held to condemn them to death.

    Many of those that were on board with the cause of the rebellion, in the beginning, saw that it was not really what they had signed up for, but by then it was too late. The power that the Red Guard wanted had already been given.

    More people died during the cultural revolution in China than any war, famine, or natural disaster in the history of man. An estimated 20 to 30 million people were killed.” – Adam Smith

  214. Infidel Tiger King

    Is job keeper , keeping virgin and qantas afloat and flying?

    I know of several highly experienced Qantas pilots who are going to take VR. You can’t support a family on $750 per week, when you used to make $250k+ p.a

    I wouldn’t fly Qantas when they resume. Only the dregs will be left.

  215. vr

    Read this… Not what you expect.

    A Modest Proposal for a Name Change

    American society is in the middle of a destructive hysteria of self-flagellation and denial. The symbols and exemplars of American society are now the objects of an unprecedented iconoclastic purge. What started as another iteration of perennial and often reasonable calls to dismantle statues of Confederate leaders has metastasized into loud denunciations of American icons such as Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln. The Lincoln Memorial has been defaced in Washington, while statues of Columbus are routinely toppled, and even statues of abolitionists and the great Union general Ulysses S. Grant himself were not exempt from the depredations of the vandals. As we write this, we hear calls for the musical Hamilton to be canceled because progressives are no longer happy with some of the positions taken by the historical Hamilton.

    Nor have names been spared from the epidemic of destruction. Throughout the country, protesters are demanding to change the name of any institution associated with historical persons deemed imperfect by current standards. Princeton University has renamed its Woodrow Wilson School, and some are now urging Yale University to shed its onomastic association with slave trader Elihu Yale. What about Columbia University? Perhaps both “Washington” and the “District of Columbia” will need to be expunged from the name of our capital?

  216. Mater

    Q. Could a bunch of CMOs run a school tuck shop?

    Can you imagine the menu?

    Can you imagine the costs?

  217. MemoryFault

    Can you imagine the costs?

    Not a problem Mater.
    It would all be OPM – via taxes.

  218. Mark A

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #3516185, posted on July 17, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    From EvilElvis at 12:10 pm:

    “Decent, soaking, rains through most of the West Australian Wheatbelt…..

    Hope you gents are up to your armpits in it later in the year. All the best.

    Which area where you in, Zulu? Edging the goldfields somewhere if I remember?”

    He sold the spread.

    Leasing/share farming out if I recall?
    Sale to a family member fell through.

  219. Diogenes

    Q. Could a bunch of CMOs run a school tuck shop?

    Assuming this is not rhetorical question – No!

    In 2017 last year Beserkchicken introduced her “healthy canteens” policy. This was based on the work by Karens, given impetus by that wanker and honorary Karen Jamie Oliver, in the various health departments. We only implemented it about this time last year.

    75% of the menu is to be “everyday” food and only 25% occasional foods.
    I’m sure you can already see where this is going.

    I did my regular lunch duty in the canteen before the change, 3 full lines of kids for the whole 30 minutes every single time. After the change, 5 kids at the start of lunch, and the occasional child wandering in, who couldn’t get what they wanted an left without buying anything. Students even launched a petition to get “chicken fingers” & gravy reintroduced – 80% of students signed.

    We have a KFC & Maccas no more than 100m from our back fence, and the amount of KFC & Maccas being handed over the fence was gobstopping as enterprising students would jump the fence with orders & money and go and buy food for a small fee. Ex students working at Maccas said they had to put 2 extra staff on to cope with the demand! So the franchisees loved the new policy !

    Another effect we noticed was that kids would come through the gate swigging energy drinks and then have another at recess & another at lunch instead of buying from the canteen. You can imagine what that days – periods of hyperactivity during periods 1,3 & 5, and massive sugar crashes during periods 2, 4 & 6

    Today, if you look at our menu, it complies, but when you compare with what is actually sold (wink wink nudge nudge) that the kids actually buy …

  220. gafa

    platform set outs 15 reforms needed to eliminate the undue influence of money in politics:

    Upon first glance, they would mostly seem to have merit.

  221. Bundyrum

    Ya gotta feel sorry for Tom Tate on the GC, he just bought his 10th property, close to 3 million bucks.

  222. max

    Zulu’s gone to Queensland droving, and we don’t know where he are.

    Aah. Love The Man From Ironbark, Mick.

  223. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Bundyrum at 1:30 pm:

    “Ya gotta feel sorry for Tom Tate on the GC, he just bought his 10th property, close to 3 million bucks.”

    Good on him, he’s been a beauty as mayor. It makes eminent good sense to have a successful businessman running the show.

  224. egg_

    SEQ School tuckshops under pressure amid volunteer drought

    School tuckshops are under threat, as many south-east Queensland canteens say they’re struggling to operate with rising food costs and a lack of volunteers.

    ACT P&C Tuckshops calling it a day

    ”The P&C council is actually considering whether we try talking to the Government about pulling out of running school canteens all together,” she said.
    ”Whether the provision of lunch is something the Government takes over is a question we are now asking ourselves.”

    BIG Canteen?

  225. woolfe

    Qantas Link is doing very well servicing the mines. Limited seating = more flights.

  226. gafa

    Start a campaign in your local area to fire your local party member, regardless of which of the above parties they represent . Whichever one, they certainly don’t represent you.

    T-Shirts and Hoodies now. Emblazoned front and back with something like:
    ” Fight for your Rights, Vote (insert name of sitting member) Last ”
    ” Fight Back, Vote (insert name of sitting member) Last”

    A few of those walking around in each electorate starting now will soon get back to the sitting member and have them and other constituents asking why!

  227. Dr Faustus

    Q. Could a bunch of CMOs run a school tuck shop?

    It would never be open in case it was needed.

  228. EvilElvis

    Leasing/share farming out if I recall?
    Sale to a family member fell through.

    Thanks for the rundown, gents.

  229. Diogenes

    School tuckshops are under threat, as many south-east Queensland canteens say they’re struggling to operate with rising food costs and a lack of volunteers.

    Further to my last, our canteen was run by the P&C and they paid a small, but dedicated staff of 6 and were still able to contribute 50k-100k a year to the school.

    They decided to outsource as they did not want to pay for a full kitchen upgrade when the changes came through outsourced in an upgrade + rent + profit share deal.

    As sales have plummeted, the outsourcer has negotiated the rent down as they were not even covering that, let alone COGS & staff(singular) costs. The P&C is now struggling to provide 10-20k to the school

  230. Entropy

    MemoryFault
    #3516204, posted on July 17, 2020 at 12:37 pm
    Why not move the NSW border north?

    Excellent idea, Sal.
    Move it to the Brisbane River and make a northern city – say Rockhampton or Townsville – the capital

    Nah. Make a new state of North Queensland with the boundary the Tropic of Capricorn.
    A new capital built at Greenvale (with premiers and treasury) but most government departments located at cairns (tourism), Townsville (mining and the NQ militia), Charters Towers (agriculture and natural resources) and Mount Isa (arts and environment).

  231. EvilElvis

    Bloody hell. Out to do a few errands and a spot of shopping and the bogan women and boomers are still running rampant!

    Covid FOMO…

  232. MemoryFault

    A few of those walking around in each electorate starting now will soon get back to the sitting member and have them and other constituents asking why!

    Hi Gafa.
    Great to see somebody getting the idea.
    If I can find a halfway decent sketch artoonist, I also want to introduce “Termination Toons” for people to email to their local member. Things like a cruise ship from the rear, sailing into the sunset, with the caption – “Bon Voyage – Enjoy Your Retirement As Our Local Member”, and a pic of coffin being carried by pallbearers, with the caption –
    “Sorry to hear about your coming demise as our local member, RIP (Retire in Poverty)”.

    Stuff like that. Folks can download them from the website and email them off. Trouble is, I can’t draw for nuts. Still working on that one.

    I’m open to all ideas to promote the idea.

  233. MemoryFault

    T shirts, hoodies etc, are up to the local units. My local – The Metamucil Militia – it is a fedora hat – $7.00 at Kmart. Another unit – Cardigan Company – wear a sash.

    The Brigade Present Arms is a middle finger salute in the direction of Canberra, while holding a stubbie in the other hand. It ends with a long swig and a toast to an end to all of them.

  234. Struth

    My old mate who is right up on the Murdoch case just dropped in.
    He was the one who was Murdoch’s prison officer.
    Took him to court, listened in the court house to all testimonies, saw what the lesso cop had done in Pt Augutta regards the zip ties.
    There is no gun no body and Joanna Lees lying through her teeth about certain things.
    Even I could see she wasn’t all there from my experience and what the publican Les said about her to me.

    Just to put my view in, and I didn’t see the doco but there is so much lacking in evidence and things not lining up that it would seem Murdoch, who was being listened to when he was on the phone to his dying mum, that when she asked him did you kill that man, he said, mum, I’ve done a lot of bad things in my time, but I did not kill that man.

    My take on it, from the people I know close to the situation tends me to come to the conclusion that Murdoch was a pain in the arse the cops wanted to nail…..for anything as they knew he was running drugs for bikies etc, and the lesso head of cops, with the “I’m better than men” chip on her shoulder needed a conviction, any conviction due to the competitive nature of sexist lessos.

    He filled up in Alice and headed up the Tanami track toward Broome.

  235. Struth

    Hear about the CMO who …..jokes are perfect.
    Get them out there.

  236. shatterzzz

    Oh dear! .. I share my back fence with this shopping centre ..
    WE IS ALL IN THIS TOGETHER coming home …….!

    https://www.macarthuradvertiser.com.au/story/6837782/confirmed-covid-19-case-employed-at-wetherill-park-thai-rock-restaurant/

  237. MemoryFault

    Units are based on electorates.
    Together the units comprise The Torchwood Brigade. Main website is TorchwoodBrigade.org. Commanding Officer is Captain Jack Harkness. Day to day running and communication is up to Sergeant Peter Loneheart – me. There are supplementary sites –
    FYLM.rocks – (Firing Your Local member Rocks – covering the first campaign, and
    Torchwood.team – which is a forum for discussion.

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