Tuesday Forum: July 14, 2020

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    Today’s questions.
    Is body language evidence admissable in court? Anywhere?
    Is Catallaxy heightist? (You must be this tall to go on the ride).
    Is Bradley Murdoch still in jail?
    Is Ben Batterham on the outside of jail?
    Is Ricky Slater still deceased?

  2. egg_

    3 x Viccos in the pile on.
    Commendable.

  3. egg_

    Ol’ LL still up there swinging!

    One of the hard men in the “front bar”?

  4. egg_

    What can we infer about relentless posting about a tv programme over several days?

    Scroll on by, retard.

  5. thefrollickingmole

    so far only four people who attended the Melbourne protest have tested positive to coronavirus

    The little virus that could…

    Site ibis now claiming large group gatherings of people can include virus infected persons because their politics are right?

    Why does Bin chicken hate science?

  6. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #3513524, posted on July 15, 2020 at 8:48 am

    Ol’ LL still up there swinging!

    One of the hard men in the “front bar”?

    Isn’t about this stage of the argument where you make a disparaging remark about someone’s Asian wife?

  7. zyconoclast

    I thought the point of acting was to play dress ups

    I’m an Actor of Color. My Curls Aren’t Wanted.
    I know if I want to land more roles, I need to look white.

    Be yourself while fitting in. And if you aspire to be like one of those leading men you grew up watching on TV, well, you better look the part.

  8. egg_

    Isn’t about this stage of the argument where you make a disparaging remark about someone’s Asian wife?

    Repeating Arky dissing his wife about her cooking (many times)?

    Want the links?

    You didn’t have the [email protected] to front up at Ms Doolittle’s?

  9. egg_

    The ol’ boy’s really up there swinging.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    You didn’t have the [email protected] to front up at Ms Doolittle’s?

    WTF are you talking about?

  11. egg_

    Early onset Dementia, ol’ boy?

  12. Makka

    I’m an Actor of Color. My Curls Aren’t Wanted.
    I know if I want to land more roles, I need to look white.

    What rubbish. Look at most US series created in the last 2-3 years. If it’s not the “strong female lead” it’s the brown skinned hero. The white dudes are cast as flunkies or black hats. FMD.

  13. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #3513526, posted on July 15, 2020 at 8:49 am
    So it is, thanks mh.

    Thwack!

  14. Leigh Lowe

    Corkboard.
    Drawing pins.
    Newspaper clippings.
    Coloured string.
    Let’s go.

  15. Cardimona

    That was a great Trump press conference.
    There is hope for the world.

  16. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Cats – I must confess to not following the recent revelations about that regrettable incident in the Nothing Territory that allegedly took place many moons ago. However, from quickly skimming over the posts, I’ve been able to gather the following:

    – Joanne Lees was a shifty gold digging opportunist who is now a single mother of six existing in a council flat in Birmingham
    – Pedro Falconio is still alive and works with Elvis in a 7-11 in the deep south of the US
    – Braddles Mudroch was fitted up for Falconio’s murder, is still in gaol and previously was a poor honest and harmless knockabout Ozzie who spent his time delivering care packages to impoverished aboriginal communidees in the NT

    Is this close? Feel free to correct any inaccuracies in the observations above, as I’m keen to know more.

  17. egg_

    I thought your mate Arky was disappointed you couldn’t make it?

    You’d have got a sore neck looking up at all the big fellas?

  18. Cassie of Sydney

    “Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3513541, posted on July 15, 2020 at 9:02 am”

    I think you nailed it Spurge…especially the “and previously was a poor honest and harmless knockabout Ozzie who spent his time delivering care packages to impoverished aboriginal communidees in the NT

    Just like Ivan Milat was “previously a poor honest and harmless knockabout Ozzie who spent his time delivering care packages to impoverished communidees along the east coast highways of Australia.

  19. thefrollickingmole

    Hugh Hefner died at about the right time.

    Playboy’s Bad Bunny cover is a welcome sign that masculinity is transforming
    Priya Elan

    Playboy has relaunched as a digital magazine and done so with a bang. The cover features the Puerto Rican singer and rapper Bad Bunny. Excluding the Playboy founder, Hugh Hefner, Bad Bunny is the first man to appear on the cover in the magazine’s history.

    In the cover shoot photos, Bad Bunny (real name Benito Antonio Martínez Ocasio) is channeling Aphrodite’s Erotes with a crown of golden laurels, bare-chested and draped in a Versace toga. In other photos he’s posing with massive chains, showing off luxurious golden nail art and some embedded lip art (tiny Playboy bunnies).

    In the music video Caro, we see him getting his nails painted before he transforms into a woman with cropped hair. At the end of the promo Martínez reappears and makes out with his female alter ego. In Yo Perreo Sola, he’s in a leather dress, thigh-high six-inch heels and later in a blonde wig and beret twerking against a version of himself. It ends with the message: “Si no quiere bailar contigo respeta ella perrea sola” – “if she does not want to dance with you, respect her, she’ll dance alone.”

  20. Leigh Lowe

    Is this close? Feel free to correct any inaccuracies in the observations above, as I’m keen to know more.

    Pretty much.
    And the Wiggles and their little red car who stood on the dark desert highway with the wind in their hair holding a jelly bean.

  21. egg_

    – Joanne Lees was a shifty gold digging opportunist who is now a single mother of six existing in a council flat in Birmingham

    Rumoured to have gotten a £350,000 advance for her book.

  22. Snoopy

    Is this close? Feel free to correct any inaccuracies in the observations above, as I’m keen to know more.

    Additions?

    Joanne Lees offed Falconio because she didn’t want to hurt his feelings by dumping him; or

    Lees and Manning offed Falconio because they feared he might report them to the police for cutting him out of drug smuggling enterprise.

  23. Zatara

    Modern “journalism” loses one of the few that understood the difference between it and propaganda, a.k.a. another center-leftist writer gets cancelled.

    NY Times editor and columnist Bari Weiss resignation letter

    I was hired with the goal of bringing in voices that would not otherwise appear in your pages: first-time writers, centrists, conservatives and others who would not naturally think of The Times as their home. The reason for this effort was clear: The paper’s failure to anticipate the outcome of the 2016 election meant that it didn’t have a firm grasp of the country it covers.
    ………………….
    The paper of record is, more and more, the record of those living in a distant galaxy, one whose concerns are profoundly removed from the lives of most people. This is a galaxy in which, to choose just a few recent examples, the Soviet space program is lauded for its “diversity”; the doxxing of teenagers in the name of justice is condoned; and the worst caste systems in human history includes the United States alongside Nazi Germany.
    …………………….
    Part of me wishes I could say that my experience was unique. But the truth is that intellectual curiosity—let alone risk-taking—is now a liability at The Times. Why edit something challenging to our readers, or write something bold only to go through the numbing process of making it ideologically kosher, when we can assure ourselves of job security (and clicks) by publishing our 4000th op-ed arguing that Donald Trump is a unique danger to the country and the world?
    ………………….
    I can no longer do the work that you brought me here to do—the work that Adolph Ochs described in that famous 1896 statement: “to make of the columns of The New York Times a forum for the consideration of all questions of public importance, and to that end to invite intelligent discussion from all shades of opinion.”

    Worth a read.

  24. egg_

    egg_
    #3438093, posted on May 1, 2020 at 10:04 pm
    The guy who denigrates his “wife” who “can’t cook”.
    I’ve had a few Asian partners, and find it surprising to think that one couldn’t cook.

    This one, Hercule?

  25. johanna

    zyconoclast
    #3513531, posted on July 15, 2020 at 8:54 am

    I thought the point of acting was to play dress ups

    I’m an Actor of Color. My Curls Aren’t Wanted.
    I know if I want to land more roles, I need to look white.

    Be yourself while fitting in. And if you aspire to be like one of those leading men you grew up watching on TV, well, you better look the part.

    The whinger is a Hispanic, light brown guy. No doubt his mother told him endlessly how handsome he is, but that was just her opinion.

    It’s all about talent, buddy. I wouldn’t call Morgan Freeman handsome, but he is a very gifted actor and is at the top of his profession. Some great actors are good looking, some are not. They come in all colours, too. The thing that matters – the only thing that matters in the long run, is talent, with a bit of luck thrown in.

    It’s not surprising that would-be creatives are perpetual whiners, since narcissism tends to go with the territory.

    But, boy it gets tedious.

  26. mh

    If you like Falconio murder mysteries, you may like this one too.

    SBS has shown this a couple of times.

  27. Geriatric Mayfly

    Hocking and Milligan should combine their unrivalled talents and co-author an opus. A new genre will emerge: Historical Fantasy.

  28. Snoopy

    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was admitted to Johns Hopkins Tuesday afternoon with a possible infection.

    Please pray.

  29. mh

    Lees and Manning offed Falconio because they feared he might report them to the police for cutting him out of drug smuggling enterprise.

    Snoopy, did you mean Murdoch?

  30. Struth

    Tail gunner, when you read this young fella, we are thinking of you guys up here.
    None of us are free of tyranny, yet you guys, have an extreme left wing traitorous government that have seriously imprisoned you.
    You went to the border and couldn’t get through.
    Stopped by the armed forces of government, illegally.
    Most docile dumbed down Australians don’t move around that much for it to affect them, but for those that do not bury their heads in the sand, do not live in fear in an emasculated and feminine existence, and are fuming with being imprisoned illegally and without doing anything wrong, understand you should be absolutely fuming.
    You should be as angry as hell, and if underneath you are feeling like you have been assaulted and frustrated you cannot fight back, you are the normal one.
    If you are surrounded by deniers and cowards, those who talk of infection rates and not the sickness or death rates, the propaganda of the insane, and everywhere pushed every time you listen to or watch main stream media, with people squabbling over what is obviously a manufactured crisis, (proof being that it’s always worse in the states more left wing and globalist, be it here or the USA) to grab power they were losing to what they pompously and arrogantly call populism (which means they know better than everyone else and therefore democracy should be squashed by force)…then understand this.
    The angrier you are in this situation, the saner you are.
    And keeping your sanity and clear thinking is vital for your own happiness.
    Own your frustration and anger and celebrate your sanity and clarity of vision that fosters this correct response to the injustice and tyranny you are suffering.
    It is something they cannot take from you and believe it or not it is the main thing they are after young fella.
    You clear thinking sanity.

    That you could not cross a border in your own country due to the decree of a marxist power hungry bureaucrat is an intolerable outrage.
    This virus, even if there is one has been long since proven to be a nothing burger, where numbers are being falsified by left wing bureaucrats as again, Two stix shows above, just this morning.

    If you are angry, realise your mental health will effect your physical health, depression is terrible for it, as I have recently pulled myself from, and I feel better than I have for many weeks.
    They will kill a sane me, or I will kill a deluded insane, depressed me, slowly. Either way, they win.
    Or we will win.
    The correct emotion is now anger and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
    You have every reason to be furious.
    Know your anger is sanity and integrity and an appropriate, sane response.
    But do not let your imprisonment and your insane hysterical, emasculated surroundings change you.
    It’s a time thing, to get your mind and they will be relentless.
    It’s yours Tail gunner, and don’t let them have it.

    You are not alone even though you are surrounded by hysterics and insanity.
    We are disgusted and I am thinking about you in particular because you get it more than many easily spooked Victorians that are even found on this blog.
    Have you got many mates that think like you?
    Find them and together plan your revenge…………………………………….
    The Tailgunner underground!

  31. Farmer Gez

    Shearing rams this morning.
    3 ml acepromazine to make them dopey.
    The best part?
    I’m not shearing them.

  32. Struth

    Without me scrolling back, when was the last time we heard from Tail gunner?

  33. egg_

    Oh come on
    #3136477, posted on August 20, 2019 at 10:38 pm
    You talking to me, MK50? You plagiarising pseudo-intellectual.

  34. Snoopy

    Murdoch of course, mh.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #3513577, posted on July 15, 2020 at 9:34 am

    Murdoch of course, mh.

    Bradley Manning works better for my conspiracy theory.

  36. Snoopy

    Farmer Gez
    #3513571, posted on July 15, 2020 at 9:28 am
    Shearing rams this morning.

    From back when Leunig was humourous.

  37. calli

    Thanks guys for finding the elusive reference to Melbourne’s BLM and the virus. I knew I had seen a report on the multiple clusters and that they had overlapped with the hotels, the school and the demo.

    And they all traced back to the hotel fiasco.

    What is the false positive rate of the cov19 test?

    How many of victoria’s “cases” fall into the margin of error?

    Things we wonder.

    Had a chat with someone at the pointy end of testing a few days ago. It’s very hard to pin down as they are only testing three points of similarity rather than a broader range because cost. Also there are shortages of reagent and other necessaries but clearly not swabs.

    That was the “numptified” version just for me, though my informant’s eyes widened when I mentioned RNA. 🙂

  38. Makka

    AFlorida hospital handling COVID-19 tests confirmed to media this week that its near-100% positivity rate was overstated by a factor of 10, raising already-heightened concerns that numerous labs are over reporting the number of confirmed infections.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/florida-lab-admits-its-covid-positivity-rate-was-inflated-90

    Couldn’t happen here of course.

  39. rickw

    Report back from the front line:

    Brought a coffee this morning from the usual. Owner is broken, level 4 restrictions looming, hardly any customers, ulcer playing up from the stress, $5k compensation is nothing, that much produce in the fridge that will need to go in the bin, almost done….

    ALL induced by the Mental Asylums of Spring Street and Canberra. The only person both of us know who has died through this whole thing is the clothing store owner who hung himself in his shop 2 weeks into the first lockdown…..

  40. zyconoclast

    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was admitted to Johns Hopkins Tuesday afternoon with a possible infection.

    Please pray.

    I get the impression that even if Trump got to select all nine of the judges they would take turns in pretzel origami to make sure nothing of importance was ‘rolled back’ or anything new of significance would be allowed.

  41. MemoryFault

    Good Morning Struth,

    Struth, I’m beginning to worry about you. You seem so down in the mouth.
    Smile, mate. September is just around the corner.

  42. Struth

    A church has been fined in South Africa for sending food into a white squatters camp , and the food has been confiscated and the reason given quite clear.
    No food is to be given to white people.

    What are the conditions that need to be met to become an accepted refugee?

    Black gangs roaming Ireland kicking the shit out of solitary white guys for 400 years of slavery?
    FMD
    There’s one for the books.

  43. zyconoclast

    Playboy’s Bad Bunny cover is a welcome sign that masculinity is transforming
    Priya Elan

    At least now when someone says they only buy it for the articles…

  44. Makka

    The Lincoln Project (hoho) are a bunch of unabashed lefties who voted for Hillary and are now cancelling each other because other lefty activists are Karening them. Is that fun or what?

    Its another lefty scam. LP fleeces leftards then channels the business into it’s treasurers advert agency. Millions. Leftards are as dumb as sack of rocks.

  45. Farmer Gez

    After two dozen rams the shearer said he must have coronavirus.

    “I’ve got the symptoms. I’m feeling weak, sweaty and out of breath.”

  46. Victorian health authorities have confirmed a link between two COVID-19 cases in people who attended the Black Lives Matter protest in Melbourne’s CBD just over a month ago, and the cluster of at least 242 cases in public housing towers in the city’s inner northwest.

    But the Department of Health and Human Services has refused to say whether members of the cluster, which includes the protest attendees, live in the public housing towers…

    …While the confirmation stops short of establishing the protest as a cause of the public housing megacluster, it demonstrates clear links between the mass gathering, attendees who tested positive, and the state’s largest COVID-19 cluster to date.

    You quote editorialised content in Murdoch’s Fart of the Nation as an authority?
    The story goes from “have confirmed a link between two COVID-19 cases” to “it demonstrates clear links between the mass gathering”. “A link” becomes “clear links” in the space of two paragraphs, and contradicts itself with “stops short of establishing the protest as a cause of the public housing megacluster”.

    So, in summary, we have “a link” (unspecified) and inference (unsubstantiated) linking public housing with BLM, and no actual evidence of any connection.

    And you bliovate about “propaganda”.

    Find the genome connection – go….
    If it was actually there, the Murdoch press would be all over it by now.

    BTW. Now that I’ve furnished you with the facts about your fathers (sic) service, have you done the ring around to correct those pesky “family narratives” that have been circulating among the extended clan?

    I have chatted with one of my brothers. His exact response was “Who’s that gutless prick and why is he anonymous?”

  47. calli

    Couldn’t happen here of course.

    I’m not going down the “falsification” rabbit hole here. Just the margin of error problem. I have no doubt the guys in the labs are doing their best with the resources they have.

  48. Dr Faustus

    Bradley Manning works better for my conspiracy theory.

    Less of a minger.

  49. stackja

    The angry private posting?
    Scrolling, scrolling…

  50. Roger

    VIC gov’t knew of issues with security guards on day one yet did nothing.

    Now BLM protesters have been traced to the tower cluster.

    This is a New York level of incompetence that is costing tax payers $1bn per week.

  51. Makka

    I’m not going down the “falsification” rabbit hole here. Just the margin of error problem. I have no doubt the guys in the labs are doing their best with the resources they have.

    It’s not the lab dudes I’m suspicious of calli. It’s the politicized departmental wonks who massage the numbers to send the right “message”. Trust none of it is the safest perspective, IMO.

  52. calli

    Why is it so important that the BLM demo is left out of the virus “package”?

    It’s bizarre.

  53. Nick

    Roger, can’t be too long before Trump is blamed

  54. 132andBush

    And the Wiggles and their little red car who stood on the dark desert highway with the wind in their hair holding a jelly bean.

    No, that was in the jungle.

  55. zyconoclast

    EXCLUSIVE: Girl, 14, accused of murdering her cousin, 10, was suspended for throwing scissors at a classmate just days earlier – and locals say it was just one of a series of worrying incidents

    -Girl, 10, was found allegedly murdered on a family farm in Gunnedah, NSW
    -Her cousin, 14, was charged with murder after her mother found niece’s body
    -Alleged crime is so disturbing magistrate has banned details being made public
    -Police and SES searched paddocks all day looking for alleged murder weapon
    -Friends claim the girl had longstanding troubling mental health issues

  56. stackja

    zycon – from the first report mental illness was likely. Another successful Richmond event.

  57. Makka

    So, in summary, we have “a link” (unspecified) and inference (unsubstantiated) linking public housing with BLM, and no actual evidence of any connection.

    Despite weeks of endeavoring to prove otherwise, hiding and deflecting from what is plainly obvious to all, Dan’s team is dragged kicking and screaming into the open to ‘fess up ; Yep, the BLM march has created an almighty fk up along with the many others and spread the bug widely at Plague Towers.

    But Pvt Sherlock numbers opines otherwise. Gosh, what to believe?

  58. zyconoclast

    Four alleged stowaways arrested in Adelaide on freight train from Melbourne

    Four men will face court in Adelaide after they were allegedly caught stowing away on an interstate freight train, police have said.

    he train departed Melbourne at 10:30pm last night bound for Perth, but police were notified about 9:30am this morning that four men had been seen onboard.

    Police said the train stopped at the Adelaide Freight Terminal at Regency Park, where patrols with police dogs swooped and quickly located the men.

    The four, all aged in their twenties, were arrested and charged with breaching COVID-19 directions.

    They are of no fixed address but believed to be from Victoria.

  59. Nick

    I can’t wait till Dan scolds all Victorians for what is happening. Trouble is they will accept it.

  60. stackja

    Dan spread the virus.

  61. EvilElvis

    – Pedro Falconio is still alive and works with Elvis in a 7-11 in the deep south of the US

    Spurgeon, yet to be clarified by my ‘contacts’. Highly likely though. We have a soft spot for balding men and hot queen of the desert types. Nice beaver!

  62. MemoryFault

    Numbers goes into massive forensic detail about any article that runs against his narrative but when the scientists told him that this virus was “novel” to humans in January this year – even though no mere mortal could possibly have known such a thing – he believed this claim without a sliver of skepticism.

    Good morning Dirk.

    A point of clarification. In the world of our medical profession, “novel” simply means “new”.
    CoVid 19 is just a “new” version of a variant of the corona virus. Corona is just one of the eight major identified variants of the virus that causes the common cold.

  63. But Pvt Sherlock numbers opines otherwise. Gosh, what to believe?

    There is a difference between fact and opinion.
    Opinion – (as presented in The Australian) – The BLM demonstrations must have contributed to Covid 19 spread in Melbourne.
    Fact – (as revealed by tracing) – There is no evidence of a connection between the BLM demonstrations and the spread of Covid 19 in Melbourne.

  64. egg_

    A “tell” for Marcus Adonis is homophobia; in addition to Mini Mokes, P76s and pig hunting.

  65. Farmer Gez

    How many contacts of known cases have gone into isolation not tested and just added to the tally?
    I’ve been told this is the case.

  66. Leigh Lowe

    How can we be lovers if we can’t be friends?
    That is the question.

  67. Mater

    I have chatted with one of my brothers. His exact response was “Who’s that gutless prick and why is he anonymous?”

    Your brother doesn’t like the ‘truth’ either? Seems to run in the family.

    Gutless?

    I had made some great mates in B Company, and felt some guilt at moving into the relative safety of Admin Company, but in the end was relieved at the less dangerous posting. It sat well with my major goal of getting home in one piece.

  68. Old School Conservative

    I have chatted with one of my brothers. His exact response was “Who’s that gutless prick and why is he anonymous?”

    Says the anonymous brother.
    Typical leftist aggression when facts belie the narrative.

  69. Cardimona

    We used to call P76s “P38s”.
    Only half the car they were cracked up to be.
    None ever came close to beating my 6-cylinder LC Torana in traffic light drags, BITD.

  70. calli

    I confessed to getting the “numptified” version, Dirk.

    A gal’s gotta know her limitations. 🙂

  71. Struth

    Good Morning Struth,

    Struth, I’m beginning to worry about you. You seem so down in the mouth.
    Smile, mate. September is just around the corner.

    No I’m worried about young men in this environment,especially patriotic ones.
    Leftism and cultural marxism has already caused a huge number of suicides of young white boys and men (and not so young) as they are told they are evil incarnate.

    The older white men have a duty to let them know we are here for them, and they are just surrounded by insanity….it’s not them.

    I got down and depressed and threw my hands up in the air after women and beta males lost their shit right at the start.
    Even the members of the Outsiders shit themselves.
    Millions shit themselves and very aggressively attacked those trying to tell them to calm down.
    We have discussed this, and I don’t want to revisit it, what is done is done, so I knew we couldn’t win when they were all taken in.
    Yes, then I was depressed, and am now realising it.
    I tried to do as I was advised by many people, ….you can’t do anything about it so just relax, take it easy…get a hobby.

    No shit.
    As I said, I started smoking foods and drinking good wines with it.
    Very yummy, but then it was too regular.
    I put on ten kilos and I think it was when I found I could not rehearse, as I could not concentrate on the music with what was going on, (you actually have to be fairly happy to play music, even sad music)constantly thinking of what has happened to my nation, that I had to come to the realisation I was just depressed as hell.
    But I was depressed not because of what was going on, I was depressed because of my response to it.
    Deluding myself into inaction.
    Mrs Struth didn’t like the new nightly half cut monster falling asleep on the lounge, and neither did I.

    Truth is MV, I went down, a bit anyway, but now I am back up, and although not impressed or happy with what is going on, I am happy with who I am and how I am going to approach this, whatever happens.
    And the people around me have worked out I can’t do as they suggest, it’s worse for me and them.
    Having your country taken over by socialism and tyranny can be a bit depressing, how you handle it is vital to your happiness.
    This is such an imposition on the lives of our young blokes, I just want Tailgunner to know he is not alone as he went to cross the border which proves he is still very sane, that he will not be told to go home and just do it.
    That’s insanity.
    If everyone in Victoria was like Tailgunner there would be no lock down.

    And I can’t help talking about feelings.
    It’s my feminine side coming out.

  72. stackja

    New poster, an old poster?

  73. twostix

    The fox news story from florida is extraordinary.

    ORLANDO, Fla. – After FOX 35 News noticed errors in the state’s report on positivity rates, the Florida Department of Health said that some laboratories have not been reporting negative test result data to the state.

    Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive. Other labs had very high positivity rates. FOX 35 News found that testing sites like one local Centra Care reported that 83 people were tested and all tested positive. Then, NCF Diagnostics in Alachua reported 88 percent of tests were positive.

    Florida public health officials on the weekend announced a massive “second wave” based on the test results.

    The local Fox affiliate decided to ring up and check 50 of the testing centres and ask them if they were really getting 98% positive test rates.

    Answer: No, less than 10% positive.

    The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

    If we were being charitable we’d simply say garbage in garbage out, can’t trust any of the data at this point.

    If we were being non-charitable we’d say someone is fiddling the numbers to manufacture a “second wave”.

    Not feeling charitable anymore.

  74. cohenite

    The troll still hasn’t caught the chunk virus: fact: there is no justice.

  75. Roger

    The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

    Someone should send this to Greg Sheridan.

    He’s warning in the Oz today that we could soon all be Floridians.

  76. Old School Conservative

    None ever came close to beating my 6-cylinder LC Torana in traffic light drags

    Yeah, but how many Toranas can fit into the boot of a P76?

  77. I had made some great mates in B Company, and felt some guilt at moving into the relative safety of Admin Company, but in the end was relieved at the less dangerous posting.

    And they’re still great mates – just got off the phone to one on his birthday.
    Strange that – after 50 years.
    But these are real people I served with, not anonymous keyboard warriors who would a been if they could a been.
    There’s always those who lack the intestinal fortitude to reveal their service (if any), whilst getting their jollies at slagging off at those who are honest about their experience.

    It sat well with my major goal of getting home in one piece.

    And here I am 50 years later – taking the piss from a range of bitter ex-regs who as the song says spend time –
    “Reviving old dreams of past glories”
    Except that the “dreams” are nightmares, and the “glories” are alcoholic fuelled concoctions.
    How sweet it is…

  78. Top Ender

    From zyconoclast’s post re Brazil:

    Police killed 1,810 people, an average of five per day,

    So we can expect enormous protests across Australia, the UK, and USA?

  79. Makka

    There is a difference between fact and opinion.

    True. The fact is that you are are a died-in-the-wool communist, from a family of commos and socialists therefore anything you post will have a full content of lies. Sorry, not buying your bs.

  80. MemoryFault

    If tonight I look up at a part of the sky with my naked eye and count 100 stars and tomorrow I look up with a telescope in the same part of the sky and count 1000, does that mean that 900 stars were created in the previ0us 24 hours?

    Once again you are on the money. Dirk. The corona (common cold) virus was one of the first ever to be attempted to be weaponised for biological warfare, back in 1955. It has been used by those kinds of labs as a “test” virus ever since. There are probably God knows how many “new” variants available for WHO to seed places like Victoria, until they knuckle under and drink the globalist kool aid.

    People will be even more desperate to get their money out if they are depositors the moment they realise that a bank might be struggling.

    Also true.
    However, if the law (the cash Restrictions Bill) dictates that you can only withdraw $50.00 a day, then it really doesn’t matter how desperate you are, or if your bank is “struggling” (haha – funny).

  81. stackja

    Orlando Health not understand decimals?

  82. Dr Faustus

    In Clanking Chains and Moaning news:

    Malcolm Turnbull@TurnbullMalcolm
    The palace letters amount to an act of interference in Australian democracy

    Expert in the field.

  83. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’ll be fun when Numbers realises the far-left have been actively trying to spread the virus. Brain sprays out ears will be the least of it.

    There’ve been examples in the US. The DoJ was concerned enough to put out a warning. The link between the revolutionary philosophy of the far-left, especially younger Antifa types who know well how innocuous bat crud is to young people, and the obvious totalitarianism of the lockdowns, and you can immediately see a motive for doing so.

  84. cohenite

    Oh look:

    Black Lives protest link to tower cluster
    Health authorities have confirmed a link between two COVID-19 cases in people who attended the Black Lives Matter protest in Melbourne and the public housing tower cluster.

    Maybe the troll will catch the fucking thing now.

  85. Top Ender

    Playboy has relaunched as a digital magazine and done so with a bang.

    And will fold within a year.

    Go woke, go broke.

  86. Geriatric Mayfly

    The run of salmon at Brooks Falls Alaska continues unabated. The competition for that prized cleft in the falls is now a 24 hour contest of the most resolute and fittest from amongst thousands. The WuFlu might turn out to be their best friend and that of the bears as well.

    On the demand side, the industry is facing a global recession: Reduced restaurant demand, lower household incomes, lower farmed salmon prices, and a hiccup in the Chinese market for farmed salmon. That could be an indicator for the wild market. Economist Garrett Evridge with the McDowell Group said in an email that statewide salmon harvests so far are the smallest they’ve been in the last 12 years, with Bristol Bay harvest 92% lower than it was last year. Evridge did note that those numbers can change quickly as the season progresses.

  87. dover_beach

    Desperate attempt by monty to claim a reasonable post by CL was racist.

  88. Struth

    Two stix I just sent that to outsiders as well, so they can’t use ignorance as an excuse anymore.
    Using the term Manufactured not mishandled crisis, or similar.

  89. cohenite

    twostix
    #3513642, posted on July 15, 2020 at 10:20 am
    The fox news story from florida is extraordinary.

    This is what I mean; time after time we see the lies, subversion, sabotage, destruction of the left; but NOTHING EVER FUCKING HAPPENS TO THE BASTARDS.

    De Santos is a good man, one of the best, he should wade into this, fire people, arrest them, cancel contracts. But it never happens.

  90. cohenite

    It’ll be fun when Numbers realises the far-left have been actively trying to spread the virus. Brain sprays out ears will be the least of it.

    The troll already knows; it doesn’t care; it’s fighting for power by any means. You assume it has some integrity; it doesn’t.

  91. MemoryFault

    And I can’t help talking about feelings.
    It’s my feminine side coming out.

    It’s okay, Struth.
    Having it all become a bit too much is only natural for someone with genuine feelings – I go through it just about every night around 1.00 am. That’s when I throw myself into my work.

    And in our chosen role in life, having a feminine side is a feature, not a bug.

    Keep your chin up. September is just around the corner.

  92. Dr Faustus

    Health authorities have confirmed a link between two COVID-19 cases in people who attended the Black Lives Matter protest in Melbourne and the public housing tower cluster.

    Health authorities have yet to consider the extent to which Andrews’ support of a large protest gathering contributed to people giving up on social distancing.

  93. zyconoclast

    Tesla Inc.’s promotion of its driver-assistance system Autopilot is under scrutiny in Germany, where a court is scheduled to rule next week on whether the carmaker is misleading consumers.

    Tesla is promising customers more than its Autopilot system actually delivers, according to the Center for Protection Against Unfair Competition, a German non-profit financed by companies and industry groups that sued the U.S. carmaker. A Munich court indicated during a hearing last month that it may side with the group.

    “A legal framework for autonomous inner-city driving doesn’t even exist yet in Germany,” Andreas Ottofuelling, a lawyer for the group, said Thursday. “And other functions aren’t working yet as advertised.”

  94. twostix

    Desperate attempt by monty to claim a reasonable post by CL was racist.

    Would we expect a gamma male to not make use of cultural revolution to attempt to settle old scores?

    I’m surprised it’s taken this long.

  95. egg_

    None ever came close to beating my 6-cylinder LC Torana in traffic light drags, BITD.

    I used to carpool with a workmate with a genuine XU1.
    Very noisy, as no sound deadening between the noisy exhaust and the interior (weight saving?).
    Another had a BMW M3 (a Leb, of course!).

  96. MatrixTransform

    Strange that it didn’t happen anywhere else in the country

    The Tard Clown uses a post hoc fallacy to argue against a post hoc fallacy

    he is both Laurel and Hardy at the same time

  97. Roger

    I’m short of details because this has gone unreported in the msm but it appears that the under the cover of the virus the UN Commission on Population and Development was attempting to publish a new set of goals that would have wrested sovereignty from signatory nations in the matter of abortion. The move was clearly aimed at African countries which retain criminalk penalties for carrying out abortions.

    The move was only thwarted when the citizen’s action group CitizenGO caught wind of it and petitioned against it, leading to a number of countries voting not to accept the draft goals while it contained the offending paragraph on abortion. The UN subsequently beat a strategic retreat.

    Black lives matter!

  98. Struth

    This is what I mean; time after time we see the lies, subversion, sabotage, destruction of the left; but NOTHING EVER FUCKING HAPPENS TO THE BASTARDS.

    And when the bullshit keeps on coming and still nothing happens to them, because it never will, months from now poeple will finally say, the bastards conned us and it will be too late by then.
    That’s why activism from the start was essential.
    However as explained above that hasn’t happened and still too many REFUSE TO BELIEVE what is right in front of them and what clear thinking logic tells them.
    Feelings over facts.
    And hysterical fear is the strongest in destroying facts.

    It’s time for the men and good women to go to work for their civilisations.
    Write letters, but more importantly have arguments with people.
    Your job is to go out there and stop the hysteria with a strong metaphoric slap to the face and shoulder shake of the sufferers.
    Forget about whether they are your friends or not, in the long run they will either come to their senses and come back to you or they will be personally responsible for ruining you and your offspring’s lives.

    Mock them, make it seem like they have been brainwashed (as they have been) and relentlessly hit them with the clue bat.
    Ladies, make your female friends and beta males feel like they are not up with the latest, not in with da hip crowd for thinking the way they do.
    Be embarrassed for them.
    Be leaders of discussions and take no prisoners.

  99. egg_

    Some interesting subcontinental archaeology.

  100. MemoryFault

    The UN subsequently beat a strategic retreat.

    I wasn’t aware of any of that, so thanks for some good news in these bleak times, Roger.

  101. Old School Conservative

    Hey Numbers, you claim there is “no actual evidence of any connection.”
    You are either ignorant or lying.
    From the Sydney Morning Herald, lefties paper of choice:
    A coronavirus cluster at a south-western Sydney pub has been genomically linked to Melbourne cases, putting NSW on high alert for a similar large-scale outbreak.

    As the Crossroads Hotel outbreak in Casula grew to at least 30 cases on Tuesday, genomic testing conducted by NSW Health revealed a Blue Mountains resident who dined at the venue on July 3 is linked to the Victorian outbreak. NSW closed the border with Victoria on July 8.

    From Your ABC:
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has confirmed the strain of coronavirus at the centre of the outbreak at the Crossroads Hotel in Sydney’s south-west came from Victoria.

    That two sources which provide the evidence you can’t acknowledge.

  102. dover_beach

    A WOMAN who amassed a vast library of 80,000 child sexual abuse images over a 14 year-period has been jailed for nine months.:

    P#phile Julie Marshall, 54, was caught after accessing the images from her hospital bed using public Wi-Fi while recovering from a heart attack in August 2017, Preston Crown Court heard.

    Her home in Blackpool, Lancashire, was later raided by police and two laptops, a phone and multiple CDs were seized, Beth Pilling, prosecuting, told the court.

    It’s actually a confused man pretending to be a woman.

  103. Struth

    I have said to the Bunnings people, with their bullshit spacings….aren’t you over all this bullshit yet?

    How do you stay sane in this environment?

    How do you put up with this bullshit all day?

    I have had the evil eye given to me when I paid cash a couple of times at the checkout and said you’ve just touched all my purchases swiping them, I thought it was only fair ……..
    But that can go over a young’ns head, so you’ve got to keep it real simple with them.
    Real simple.

  104. Roger

    I wasn’t aware of any of that, so thanks for some good news in these bleak times, Roger.

    Good news indeed, Peter.

  105. Makka

    Health authorities have yet to consider the extent to which Andrews’ support of a large protest gathering contributed to people giving up on social distancing.

    At Filthy Towers they never practiced it in the first place. Eid was a hoot!

  106. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tesla is promising customers more than its Autopilot system actually delivers, according to the Center for Protection Against Unfair Competition

    Yup.

    Shocking Photo: Tesla On Autopilot Smashes Into The Back Of Parked Cop Car On Arizona Highway (14 Jul)

    A Tesla on Autopilot smashed into the back of a patrol vehicle on the side of the road near Benson, Arizona today, according to Arizona’s Department of Public Safety Twitter feed.

    “Today, a Tesla rear-ended a patrol vehicle at the scene of an earlier crash on I-10 EB near Benson. Luckily, our sergeant wasn’t in the vehicle & wasn’t hurt,” the tweet says.

    The software really isn’t good enough to cope with the unexpected. But Elon is magic, so his arse hasn’t been sued off by victims’ families yet.

  107. Roger

    Western liberals bemoan the legacy of colonialism but they remain relentless in seeking to impose their permissive social agendas on developing countries in the face of their cultural and religious objections. It’s heartening to see some fight back in this instance.

  108. Struth

    Alan Jones wanted short letters.

    So I sent this.

    Would the Premier of NSW open her borders and the state if only late term , about to be born babies were killed by Covid19?

    Of course it won’t get aired but I’m using cardimona’s tactic of just getting into their heads.

  109. zyconoclast

    An exclusive, weeks-long BBC investigation inside filthy hospitals in South Africa has exposed an extraordinary array of systemic failures showing how exhausted doctors and nurses are overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients and a health service near collapse.

    With key staff on strike or sick with coronavirus in the Eastern Cape province, nurses are forced to act as cleaners, surgeons are washing their own hospital laundry and there are alarming reports of unborn babies dying in over-crowded and understaffed maternity wards.

    As doctors, unions and management fight over scarce resources, one senior doctor described the situation as “an epic failure of a deeply corrupt system”, while another spoke of “institutional burn-out… a sense of chronic exploitation, the department of health essentially bankrupt, and a system on its knees with no strategic management”.

    The revelations come just as South Africa – which held the coronavirus back for months with an early, tough, and economically devastating lockdown – now sees infection rates soar nationwide, prompting President Cyril Ramaphosa to warn that “the storm is upon us”.

  110. Tom

    Thanks, rickw. I’m warming to the Salty Cracker vids, like the one you posted at 6.40am. Who knew how entertaining it could be to tell the stupidest people ever born to go to hell?

  111. Top Ender

    Bunnings apparently have their sausage sizzles going again in the NT.

    Have not seen one yet as have not been there but it is said they have a lane to go in; collect your sanger (onions under of course) and then you go out. They also have someone to ensure “social distancing”.

  112. MemoryFault

    It’s time for the men and good women to go to work for their civilisations.
    Write letters, but more importantly have arguments with people.
    Your job is to go out there and stop the hysteria with a strong metaphoric slap to the face and shoulder shake of the sufferers.

    We’ve had this conversation before, Struth. You are wasting your time until a significant number of people are aware there even is a problem, let alone a workable solution. Currently most people buy at least some form of the “official” terrible virus story.

    However, pretty soon now – probably September or soon after – the public are going to be hit with two new concepts – the true implications of the Cash Restrictions Bill, and the “discovery” that we can solve all our financial difficulties by just tapping into the $3 trillion currently in super funds.

    Either one of these provide the perfect springboard to start the long fight back.
    Keep your powder dry until then.

  113. Dr Faustus

    Annastacia Palaszczuk@AnnastaciaMP
    BREAKING: The @AFL has approached Queensland to host more of its teams and players in our state. #AFL #COVID19Aus

    Not sure what “AFL” is, but this sounds like a good idea.
    Perhaps AFL players from around the world could base themselves in Queensland and start up some sort of competition.

  114. William the Conjuror

    there is no justice

    Gee-larse has excretinated on another Forum. Justice is blind.

  115. Zatara

    In other news, feckless moron Jeff Sessions is getting his arse kicked so far in the Alabama GOP primary for his old Senate seat.

    Sessions has 37.2% and his opponent Tuberville has 62.8% with 35.3% of precincts reporting.

  116. Roger

    I put on ten kilos and I think it was when I found I could not rehearse, as I could not concentrate on the music with what was going on, (you actually have to be fairly happy to play music, even sad music

    Interesting observation and I think you’re right. Depression does impact the cognitive functions.

    Otoh, the therapeutic power of music is well known.

    I was in Sanity the other day and the young chap behind the counter told me one of their biggest selling CDs in the virus time is a Mozart selection ABC Classic FM has put out called ‘Mozart Fixes Everything’.

  117. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some interesting subcontinental archaeology.

    Excellent stuff Egg! Interesting his mention of the denial amongst some people that Ayodhya temple was ever Hindu, seeing that Erdogan just turned a Christian cathedral back into a mosque this week. The RoP has always had a habit of doing such things.

    I linked the wiki about Chandragupta Maurya yesterday. Lots of fascinating history in India. A comment of Ed’s a few days ago about the lack of writing in India until the Persians arrived was also interesting, since that is another fine controversy. See the Harappan language wiki and the related Indus script wiki for a flavour.

  118. zyconoclast

    I was in Sanity the other day and the young chap behind the counter told me one of their biggest selling CDs in the virus time is a Mozart selection ABC Classic FM has put out called ‘Mozart Fixes Everything’.

    With JS Bach everything was fixed already
    https://youtu.be/6JQm5aSjX6g

  119. William the Conjuror

    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton previously said it was unlikely the protesters caught the virus at the rally in Melbourne’s CBD which was attended by 10,000 people on June 6.

  120. egg_

    At Filthy Towers* they never practiced it in the first place. Eid was a hoot!

    Surprisingly, apparently Israeli Arabs are blaming themselves for their recent CV-19 outbreak for not practising social distancing in their gatherings.

    *That’s a keeper.

  121. egg_

    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton previously said it was unlikely the protesters caught the virus at the rally in Melbourne’s CBD which was attended by 10,000 people on June 6.

    DENY! DENY! DENY!

  122. Old School Conservative

    William, are you deliberately ignoring the word previously in your post?
    Time has moved on and today’s evidence totally disproves your assertion that protesters didn’t catch the virus.

  123. Roger

    With JS Bach everything was fixed already

    I wouldn’t necessarily disagree, zycon, although I might aver that Mozart is a little more approachable to contemporary ears than Bach. I enjoy both, but then I will also listen to and enjhoy everything and anything that has something to offer, from Russian znammeny chant to The Grateful Dead!

  124. Tom

    Breaking: Jeff Sessions defeated in Alabama senate primary.

    The prick actually had the gall to try to climb aboard the 2020 Train train. Fuck off and die, you Deep State goon.

  125. MemoryFault

    I will also listen to and enjhoy everything and anything that has something to offer, from Russian znammeny chant to The Grateful Dead!

    A man after my own heart!
    Here’s the track I use to chase away the blues in the wee hours while I’m working.
    The guitar work in the middle is as good as it gets.

  126. johanna

    Just read that the Vicco CV19 death toll is now 27 – a woman in her 90s died last night.

    Anyone know what the road toll for Vicco has been this year? Noting also that road traffic volume is way down because of restrictions?

    If it is more than 27, all driving of cars, motorcycles and pushbikes must be banned immediately.

  127. Makka

    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton previously said it was unlikely the protesters caught the virus at the rally in Melbourne’s CBD which was attended by 10,000 people on June 6.

    The same clown who in March told us we were all gonna die from the plague. Fkg liar.

  128. Snoopy

    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton

    Who PREVIOUSLY claimed climate change was the greatest public health threat.

  129. egg_

    I linked the wiki about Chandragupta Maurya yesterday. Lots of fascinating history in India. A comment of Ed’s a few days ago about the lack of writing in India until the Persians arrived was also interesting, since that is another fine controversy.

    Yeah, I caught both of those posts, thanks.

    Lots of Ancient Indian artefacts in the National Gallery of Victoria, some c. 6k y.a. IIRC.

  130. egg_

    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton previously said it was unlikely the protesters caught the virus at the rally in Melbourne’s CBD which was attended by 10,000 people on June 6.

    Housos vs BLM?

  131. twostix

    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton previously said it was unlikely the protesters caught the virus at the rally in Melbourne’s CBD which was attended by 10,000 people on June 6.

    If 10000 people can go and stand together in one place and no virus spreads then this is all complete bullshit.

    You cannot have it both ways you schizophrenic lunatics.

  132. Bruce of Newcastle

    Breaking: Jeff Sessions defeated in Alabama senate primary.

    Excellent message telegraphed by Republican voters: get on the train or you’re toast, elite GOP types.

    Hopefully Mitt and his seditious mates will comprehend it. I don’t think so though.

  133. MemoryFault

    The same clown who in March told us we were all gonna die from the plague.

    and

    Who PREVIOUSLY claimed climate change was the greatest public health threat.

    “We’ll all be rooned”, said Hanrahan, “before the year is out”.

  134. Roger

    The guitar work in the middle is as good as it gets.

    If I could only work out how to embed video I would see your Keith Richards and raise you a Jerry Garcia, Peter…or maybe Duane Allman & Dickey Betts duelling solos on Mountain Jam.

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “We’ll all be rooned”, said Hanrahan, “before the year is out”.

    My late father always claimed that Hanrahan was the patron saint of farmers, in the Eastern Wheatbelt of Western Australia.

  136. Des Deskperson

    Johanna, if I am reading this correctly – it seems to be referring to a rolling 12 month period:

    https://www.tac.vic.gov.au/road-safety/statistics/lives-lost-year-to-date

    Road deaths in Victoria were 119 in the 12 months to midnight 14 July 2020, down 25% compared to the same period to 14 July 2019. Doubtless, as you suggest, due to lockdowns .

  137. Roger

    You cannot have it both ways you schizophrenic lunatics.

    This is where you end up when some citizens are accorded privileges denied to others.

    My wife was on the phone to her Labor voting sister in Melbourne yesterday and she is ropeable at the double standards applied by police and the political connivance of Andrews & Co. with their union mates in the security guards fiasco.

  138. Zatara

    Excellent message telegraphed by Republican voters: get on the train or you’re toast, elite GOP types.

    62.1% to 37.9% (so far) is a pretty adamant message as well. I’d call that a landslide.

  139. incoherent rambler

    VIK Road toll YTD

    2019 – 158
    2020 – 119 (down 24.7%)

    So driving a car is 4 to 5 times more dangerous than woofloo

    (TAC website)

  140. Atoms for Peace

    Are Sgt Schultz, Andrews and Cuomo considered to be synonyms? Worth considering for a revised cryptic crossword resource

  141. Mark A

    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton previously said it was unlikely the protesters caught the virus at the rally in Melbourne’s CBD which was attended by 10,000 people on June 6.

    OK I buy that.
    But if ten K people in close proximity are immune to the virus, then what are we in lock-down for?

  142. Perth Trader

    ‘The Great Train Escape from Victoria’…..I’d like to see the 4 men interviewed. Riding a freight train across Aust would be a adventure in mid winter . The tempt across the nullabor gets down to freezing this time of year.

  143. MemoryFault

    raise you a Jerry Garcia, Peter…or maybe Duane Allman & Dickey Betts duelling solos on Mountain Jam.

    Name a track and I’ll post it for you, Roger.
    This thread needs a bit of spirit lifting.
    Not to mention myself, personally.

  144. Hey Numbers, you claim there is “no actual evidence of any connection.”

    Because there isn’t.

    A coronavirus cluster at a south-western Sydney pub has been genomically linked to Melbourne cases, putting NSW on high alert for a similar large-scale outbreak.

    Melbourne is a big town.
    It’s reminds me of people who have asked me if I know such and such who was “in the army in Vietnam”.
    When I point out that over 60,000 were “in the army in Vietnam” they sometimes look confused.
    Last time I checked, the population of Melbourne was about 4,936,000.
    But, but, Melbourne….BLM….

    You are either ignorant or lying.
    It’s Catallaxy, so the first is just as likely as the second.

  145. egg_

    2020 – 119 (down 24.7%)

    Tel vindicated!

  146. incoherent rambler

    Dickless Dan is 200 to 300 times more dangerous than woofloo.

  147. johanna

    Peter, if you are a big fan of that song, may I recommend a short story by Ian Rankin (who wrote the very successful Rebus crime novels) called Glimmer, in his Beggars Banquet book.

    He is a huge Stones fan, and this story is about a night in the life of the band during the Glimmer Twins days, featuring the song in question as a major theme. It’s a great piece of writing, and I say this even though I am not a mad Stones fan. Indeed, the whole book is excellent – short stories are ideal bedtime reading.

    I’m currently re-reading the Rebus novels in sequence – mostly very enjoyable. He does suffer a bit from the leftie yips, although not as much as most. The one I’m reading now, Fleshmarket Close, has a refugee theme, and our hard-bitten hero is dripping with compassion. But, at least he acknowledges the role of criminal syndicates, the utterly amoral media, the plight of dying communities who rely on detention centres for employment and so on. No doubt he would be excoriated by the Sydney Writers Festival as practically a Nazi for doing that.

    Speaking of which, there is a hilarious spat going on in Canberra between whoever runs the local writers ‘festival’ (hardly festive, but I digress) and a rival collective. The rival collective, the locals, are furious because not enough of their unknown members are on the program, which they claim lacks ‘diversity.’

    It’s vicious/tearful tweets and such at twenty paces, great fun to watch.

    Needless to say, neither outfit has much in the way of real diversity in their mindset.

  148. Cassie of Sydney

    “My wife was on the phone to her Labor voting sister in Melbourne yesterday and she is ropeable at the double standards applied by police and the political connivance of Andrews & Co. with their union mates in the security guards fiasco.”

    Yes but Roger…..what’s the bet she will still vote Labor at the next state and federal election? These people have short memories.

  149. egg_

    Riding a freight train across Aust would be a adventure in mid winter .

    Beaugy’s next adventure?
    Cue the dancing girls.

  150. incoherent rambler

    Fact check on my woofloo stats:

    Correct. Dan has no dick.

    h/t Bill Murray

  151. Gunner – when you get in here, please provide a summary. I have to go to work shortly.

    Hehe, I was reading your body language comments and was going to respond accordingly!
    Crossed legs towards me?
    Playing with her hair?
    Game101 recognised!
    😃

  152. You cannot have it both ways you schizophrenic lunatics.

    Actually you can.
    It is possible to observe all the medical advice, whilst at the same time understanding that nothing is guaranteed.
    Except on Catallaxy, of course, where the majority are unable to deal with reality that sometimes stuff works, and sometimes it doesn’t.

    It’s interesting to compare the economic outcomes between countries where the lockdowns were stringently enforced, and those where there was a decision made to leave decisions about behaviour up to the individual.
    It transpires that the economic damage is much the same.
    Lack of regulated enforcement makes stuff all difference.
    The conclusion (for anyone with half a brain) is that if you’re getting advice from people who know what they’re talking about, you follow it, and if you’re in government, it would be criminal to do anything else.

  153. Atoms for Peace

    Plenty of good resources out there as to the use of genomics in contact tracing.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    My wife was on the phone to her Labor voting sister in Melbourne yesterday and she is ropeable at the double standards applied by police and the political connivance of Andrews & Co. with their union mates in the security guards fiasco.

    And non-existent contact tracing.
    This was being touted as a “highly complex and specialised task”, and the ADF couldn’t readily do it.
    Bullshit.
    It basically requires a phone and two standard scripts of questions.
    One for newly identified contacts and another for follow up calls, and an ability to record answers and report anomalies.
    So what were the problems?
    1. Public sector turf protection;
    2. Fear that ADF secondees might tumble to the various cluster cover-ups (Cedar meats, BLM);
    3. Fear that the ADF secondees would not follow discriminatory tracing practices (ie if people from “victim poker minorities” don’t cooperate, leave them alone).

  155. MemoryFault

    Yes but Roger…..what’s the bet she will still vote Labor at the next state and federal election? These people have short memories.

    Good afternoon Cassie.
    Your post is 100% true.
    However, if you substitute Liberal for Labor in it, you’d be describing most people here at the Cat.
    What’s the difference?

  156. William the Conjuror

    Shortage of COVID-19 testing reagents?

    No.

    Pooled (batches of 10?) for initial testing of COVID-19 samples?

    No. Mere speculation by Fauci as a possible way to do more tests in the US.

  157. Boambee John

    Lack of regulated enforcement makes stuff all difference.
    The conclusion (for anyone with half a brain) is that if you’re getting advice from people who know what they’re talking about, you follow it, and if you’re in government, it would be criminal to do anything else.

    A couple of very big caveats there, which the bin chicken seems not to have taken on board.

  158. Des Deskperson

    ‘So driving a car is 4 to 5 times more dangerous than bwoofloo’

    To put it another way:

    In the past 12 months, Victoria has averaged about 10 road death per month.

    The first COVID case in Australia was detected on 25 January 2020, just under six months ago.

    So, in the absence of more detailed figures at this stage, its a reasonable assumption that there have been a bit less than 60 road deaths, compared to 25 COVID deaths, in Victoria over the same period.

  159. Makka

    So, it seems Sweden suffers no economical disadvantage from remaining “open”. And the possibility exists to actually benefit.

    ALWAYS check numbers assertions as they are most always lies.

    From numbers link;

    Early figures for Sweden’s gross domestic product in the first quarter of 2020, released this week, suggested that at least in March it had performed better than much of the EU as it recorded a decline of just 0.3 per cent, compared with a 3.8 per cent fall for the eurozone.

    Bottom line , it’s far too early to tell yet but so far the figures support Sweden’s sensible decision.

  160. johanna

    Thanks, Vic Cats, for the road toll stats. I’m not holding my breath for one of our intrepid, fearless ‘journalists’ to ask DD the question, though.

    When you have TheirABC treating seriously the idea that we should just hunker down in our homes and hope the virus can be permanently extinguished in Australia, presumably while manna rains down from Heaven, the chances of any of our political ‘leaders’ being held to account are slim.

    We have seen more flip-flops than at the Olympic acrobatics, both by politicians and journalists, so they are not going to embarrass each other.

  161. Bruce of Newcastle

    The conclusion (for anyone with half a brain) is that if you’re getting advice from people who know what they’re talking about, you follow it, and if you’re in government, it would be criminal to do anything else.

    Yup. That’s the problem Numbers. The people advising government are doing so on the basis of politics and feelings, not science and logic. The pogrom against HCQ is the evidence.

    HCQ Helps Contain COVID-19 Cases: New Evidence and a Major Retraction (14 Jul)

    Local health official Dr. Devesh Patel told the paper, “It has shown positive results. We have the numbers and not one person has complained of complications. … While HCQ is no miracle cure, the evidence continues to mount that the drug is a safe and effective treatment or prophylactic measure against COVID-19

    Yet in states like Qld a doctor can be fined $13,000 for writing a HCQ script.

    Until lefty activist politics can be removed from science, and I include stupid climate science in that, there are no experts who know what they are talking about. Just a bunch of Lysenkoite-yesmen.

  162. Maj

    In other news, feckless moron Jeff Sessions is getting his arse kicked so far in the Alabama GOP primary for his old Senate seat.

    Sessions has 37.2% and his opponent Tuberville has 62.8% with 35.3% of precincts reporting.

    More Trump #winning!

  163. Megan

    According the the road toll body counter in today’s Hun, 118 road deaths ( 118 people’s lives) this year compared to 158 at the same time last year.

    When I pointed this out yesterday in a conversation with friends I was lectured by someone who is an actual scientist that the after effects of catching WuFlu are long term and hideous. OK, because no one ever ends up with long term injuries from car accidents either.

    People’s ability to think clearly has been decimated.

  164. Eyrie

    Has there been something new in the MH370 case?

    I checked Wikipedia and don’t think so.

    However this part on the entry is WRONG.
    ” If no control inputs were made following flameout and the disengagement of autopilot, the aircraft would likely have entered a spiral dive[52]:33 and entered the ocean within 20 nmi (37 km; 23 mi) of the flameout and disengagement of autopilot.”
    The Boeing 777 is a FBW aircraft. If you disengage the “autopilot” (it is actually a FBW system with different modes) the fallback mode keeps the wings level without crew input. This does NOT mean the heading stays constant, just that when disturbed the aircraft returns to wings level flight. No spiral dive.

    You can’t do this is an airline simulator because the mode isn’t present in those (no real reason to include it). However I’m told the “iron bird” engineering simulator at Boeing does have it.

  165. Roger

    Yes but Roger…..what’s the bet she will still vote Labor at the next state and federal election? These people have short memories.

    If she does my wife – who is to the right of Margaret Thatcher – will tell her she can’t complain then.

    It’s a wonder they get on as well as they do!

  166. Mark A

    Mark Latham’s Outsiders
    4cteSpr3oe nmiomsgoreohnsd ·

    BREAKING: Victorian health authorities have confirmed a link between the BLM protest in Melbourne’s CBD and the cluster of at least 242 cases in public housing towers in Melbourne’s inner northwest.
    Genomic sequencing has linked a unique Victorian strain of COVID-19 to Sydney’s Crossroads Hotel outbreak, for the first time revealing the virus has spread from Melbourne to NSW.

  167. MemoryFault

    So, in the absence of more detailed figures at this stage, its a reasonable assumption that there have been a bit less than 60 road deaths, compared to 25 COVID deaths, in Victoria over the same period.

    Not to mention the fact that, in the period end of February to mid May this year, 378 people suicided in Victoria alone. The majority of them were under 25, and a significant number of those could be directly attributable to the lockdown.

    And before I get bombarded with demands for proof, it was all in an op-ed piece in the MSM, linked to right here at the Cat back in June, when it appeared. No Cats queried it at the time.

  168. Leigh Lowe

    When I pointed this out yesterday in a conversation with friends I was lectured by someone who is an actual scientist that the after effects of catching WuFlu are long term and hideous. OK, because no one ever ends up with long term injuries from car accidents either.

    Rough stat for future reference.
    The average number of road accident injuries requiring greater than 14 days hospitalization (which would be pretty serious) runs at 900 – 1,000 per annum in Victoria.
    Given deaths run at the mid 200’s per annum, the rule of thumb would be 4-5 serious injuries for each death recorded with probable long-term chronic health consequences.

  169. Maj

    One anti-Trump Train upset:

    Daily Kos Elections
    @DKElections

    19,000 votes in for #TX23, and Cruz-endorsed Raul Reyes maintains 53-47 lead over Trump-backed Tony Gonzales in swing seat. Kevin McCarthy and retiring Rep. Will Hurd also pulling for Gonzales

    12:06 PM · Jul 15, 2020

    https://twitter.com/DKElections/status/1283221426401693696

    If Reyes gets up, Lyin’ Ted better get on his hands and knees and ask the Great Man for forgiveness.

  170. Tom

    People’s ability to think clearly has been decimated.

    Leftism can dissolve anything useful you ever learned and turn it into a sludge of mindless howlermonkery.

    Kids have the excuse that you’re only young and stupid once. The oldies are the sad ones as they’re confirming they were born stupid.

  171. Boambee John

    Ooops! I forgot to highlight the most important point made by the bin chicken!

    Lack of regulated enforcement makes stuff all difference.

    So why is the bin chicken so keen on “regulated enforcement”? The typical fascist left hunger for power over The Lives of Others perhaps?

  172. Old School Conservative

    I like the headline at Quadrant:
    More Than a Fluke Driving Whales’ Resurgence

  173. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maj – Trump has been endorsing a fair number of RNC-backed candidates, which I have taken to be a message to them: ‘I will support you if you support me’. So far that has fallen on deaf ears, and many of the candidates of the RNC have fallen despite Trump endorsements because the base is entirely clued into the game of the RNC elites.

  174. dover_beach

    Xenophon is defending Huawei on ABC.

  175. Makka

    Looks like the Vic Coroner agrees MF. Suicide from the restrictions caused by Dan’s totalitarian regime are far deadlier than the virus itself;

    He said those at most risk had experienced family or personal crisis, or suffered from unemployment or financial problems.

    Judge Cain’s comments come weeks after Australia’s new deputy chief medical officer was appointed with her role to focus on the mental health impact of the pandemic.

    And the bastard’s know it.

  176. johanna

    Flicking through the channels, just came across a series on SBS Viceland (Ch. 31) called Child Genius. It’s an Australian made program featuring child smarties competing in various tests in front of an audience.

    Not surprisingly, most of the competitors are male, and Chinese or Asian. Plenty of Tiger Moms and Pops in evidence. The kids are around 11 years old.

    As anyone who has ever participated in a quiz show at home should know, it is one thing to shout at the TV and quite another to perform in front of an audience. Many people just freeze up, so it is a double-sided test.

    I think I’ve been sucked in to this one.

  177. MemoryFault

    The oldies are the sad ones as they’re confirming they were born stupid.

    Careful, Tom.
    There’s quite a few of us “oldies” here, and not all of us vote Liberal as a matter of course.

  178. Gab

    People’s ability to think clearly has been decimated.

    Rational thinking has been reduced far more than by 10% in these times.

  179. zyconoclast

    If Reyes gets up, Lyin’ Ted better get on his hands and knees and ask the Great Man for forgiveness.

    Or ask for something else.
    He is after all, a Republican Senator

  180. Boambee John

    johanna

    When you have TheirABC treating seriously the idea that we should just hunker down in our homes and hope the virus can be permanently extinguished in Australia, presumably while manna rains down from Heaven,

    The kiddies at Their ABC are too stupid to realise that, IF the virus can be permanently extinguished in Australia, it can only be kept out by strict quarantine of the rest of the world. No more culturally enriching immigration, no more overseas students at Australian universities, no more overseas travel without strict quarantine on return, no more of all those things that cosmopolitan internationalists love so much.

    They are truly too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are!

  181. Maj

    Maj – Trump has been endorsing a fair number of RNC-backed candidates, which I have taken to be a message to them: ‘I will support you if you support me’. So far that has fallen on deaf ears, and many of the candidates of the RNC have fallen despite Trump endorsements because the base is entirely clued into the game of the RNC elites.

    The “RNC elites” have been drained.

    This is now Trump’s RNC. He appoints all the key people. Ronna McDaniel was chosen by the President.

  182. Boambee John

    He said those at most risk had experienced family or personal crisis, or suffered from unemployment or financial problems.

    Judge Cain’s comments

    The newly promoted John Cain not sticking to the script? Desperate Dan will not be happy!

  183. twostix

    It is possible to observe all the medical advice, whilst at the same time understanding that nothing is guaranteed.

    Medical advice: No strangers in your backyard.

    Also medical advice: 10000 noisy leftwing protestors is fine.

    LOL you idiot, this isn’t sixth grade class who have to silently pretend they believe your midling IQ shit.

  184. Maj

    If Reyes gets up, Lyin’ Ted better get on his hands and knees and ask the Great Man for forgiveness.

    Or ask for something else.
    He is after all, a Republican Senator

    He won’t be after his current term expires if Trump decides to give him the “Murkowski treatment”.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump · Jun 5

    Few people know where they’ll be in two years from now, but I do, in the Great State of Alaska (which I love) campaigning against Senator Lisa Murkowski. She voted against HealthCare, Justice Kavanaugh, and much else…

  185. MemoryFault

    They are truly too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are!

    Trouble is, John, it’s not because they are stupid. it’s because they don’t care.
    If you confront a journalist with an obvious contradiction in their stories over time, they will look at you with a blank stare. If you can get them to verbalise their thoughts, it goes something like this –
    “Yes, that’s what I wrote yesterday, and this is what I wrote today, and they are different. And if I have to write on the subject tomorrow, it may well be different again. So what? What’s your point?”

    They write – and think -in the here and now. What is required to be told now is all that is relevant.

    It is a disturbing trait they share with lawyers and party politicians, which is why the three roles are often interchangeable.

  186. johanna

    Good to see Jeff Sessions defeated.

    He talked the talk, but did not walk the walk. Deserting Trump when he did caused incalculable damage.

    He is probably a good man, but a weak one. What Trump needs is more hard-ass types on the team.

    Oh, and I read that the fillum school at USC has deleted the John Wayne exhibit.

    Gulliver comes to mind.

  187. egg_

    They are truly too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are!

    Trouble is, John, it’s not because they are stupid. it’s because they don’t care.

    There’s probably a point in a lot of careers when they reach the level of Management where they sell their soul to the Devil and speak nothing but spin and doublespeak.

  188. Zatara

    The “RNC elites” have been drained.

    Alas, not. There are plenty of GOP pimples yet to be popped.

    McConnell
    Romney
    Graham
    Collins
    Murkowski

    And that’s just the Senate.

  189. Makka

    Fair comment Dirk and all valid points. My point though was referring to the economic stats numbers derided that are actually pointing to the wisdom of the Swedes not to lock down their economy due to the scamdemic.

  190. Old School Conservative

    no more of all those things that cosmopolitan internationalists love so much.

    No more Foreign Corespndent.
    No more trusted network of overseas based ABC journalists.
    No more moving to China to write a novel.

  191. Gilas

    Dirk
    #3513620, posted on July 15, 2020 at 10:04 am

    I’m not going down the “falsification” rabbit hole here. Just the margin of error problem.

    I’m not sure if people understand what all this means.

    With the PCR you don’t get a binary result you get a number from one to anything. It all depends on the number of iterations of doubling you need to get a “result”. It could be ten, 20, 30 or 80.

    Uh?
    PCR, actually IS a binary process, the virion DNA/RNA is either detected, or it isn’t. Detection will obviously depend on the phase of the illness ie, whether the viral RNA/DNA is actually floating around the mucus/blood, or whatever. Or whether it’s confined to the intra-cellular compartment, as it can often be in the early, incubation phase of the illness.

    What you may be referring to is viral antibody (Ab) testing, where titres, or sequential dilutions of the serum Ab are performed, and an arbitrary level of activity, or immunity, is then determined.
    These are sequential 1:2 dilutions, hence powers of 2 are given as the result, the larger the dilution required, the more significant ie. positive, is the result.
    For example, a 1:200+ dilution which still detects Ab reactivity, is then interpreted as an Ab level adequate to provide immunity to the specific antigen, be it viral or bacterial.

    Titre positivity is different for different antigens. The levels determined by a generally accepted sensitivity or specificity for the test, as calculated on Bayesian principles. So, If I want the test to be more specific (fewer false negatives ie. more true negatives), I’ll have to compromise on sensitivity, and risk fewer true positives, thus possibly under-estimating the true prevalence of whatever it is that I’m trying to detect.

  192. Maj

    He is probably a good man, but a weak one. What Trump needs is more hard-ass types on the team.

    Trump got his man:

  193. twostix

    What I love about this is the exposure of public health “science” as being as corrupt and politisised as “climate change” “science”.

    For ages conservatives compartmentalised climate science away as some sort of aberation.

    Bzzzzzt wrong.

    Public health “science” is wholly coopted by big pharma, public health eugenics-curious lunatics and now also Chinese corrupted influencers.

  194. MemoryFault

    The fact that I am in the tiny minority just proves that democracy is disgusting.

    Dirk,
    You will go on being confused and disgusted for as long as you continue to think what has happened, and is happening, is the result of bungling and incompetence on the part of our politicians and others. It’s not. It is the unfolding and implementation of a carefully laid out plan of action.

    Once you realise and come to terms with this, you will also realise you are not part of a tiny minority, and democracy is not disgusting. There are more people aware than you think, and democracy has been subverted by an authoritarian regime.

    Our time will come. Patience.

  195. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Xenophon is defending Huawei on ABC.

    shopping for aldi again

  196. Dr Faustus

    Prominent Constitutional Experts on the Queen’s Letters:

    Hocking:The damage this has done to the Queen, to Kerr and the monarchy is incalculable.”;
    Trumble: the level of “suggestive comments” from Charteris was surprising;
    FitzSimons:It was an affront to the national dignity then. It is a double affront now.
    Albanese (Leader of the Opposition): “...a blight on our character as a nation that a democratically-elected government was dismissed

    Anne Twomey:

    “…all it does is blows away the silly conspiracy theories that we’ve been having for an awfully long time, which said ‘this was all the conspiracy of the British and the establishment and the Queen’,” she said.

    “Well it wasn’t.

    “We just have to live with the fact it was an Australian who dismissed an Australian government.”

    Prof Twomey also notes that Whitlam immediately phoned the Palace asking to be reappointed, given that Supply had been passed.

    So instead of the British interfering in Australia’s constitutional system, [it] seems that Gough Whitlam was rather hoping the British would interfere into the system by making him Prime Minister again,” Professor Twomey said.

  197. max

    Dirk, people will still start small businesses because it’s rewarding, not just financially. Yes, you could chuck it in but who wants to moulder away as if every day is Sunday. It’s what we live for – blokes do, anyway.

  198. Gab

    kayne drops out of US election.
    LOL

  199. Gilas

    Dirk
    #3513650, posted on July 15, 2020 at 10:29 am

    When people feel “lost” or “isolated” their sub-conscious minds cause them to retain water

    Uh? (again..)

    Do you have a link for that?

  200. Makka

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1283092643338244102

    Daily Caller
    @DailyCaller
    Dashboard camera footage shows a police officer saving the life of a three-week-old baby from choking as the family looks on.

    Those terrible white cops at it again…

  201. P

    You can cry, scream, pout, hold your breath until you turn blue . . . but
    My husband is still your President

    Yep
    Still your President

  202. Until lefty activist politics can be removed from science, and I include stupid climate science in that, there are no experts who know what they are talking about. Just a bunch of Lysenkoite-yesmen.

    It must be sweet to live in the simplicity of Catallaxy fairyland.
    If anything – anything at all – goes wrong, it’s always the fault of the debil-debil Left in all its incarnations.
    It’s the kind of thought prevalent in primitive society.
    It’s the *CC.
    Cult of Catallaxy.

  203. Maj

    The “RNC elites” have been drained.

    Alas, not. There are plenty of GOP pimples yet to be popped.

    McConnell
    Romney
    Graham
    Collins
    Murkowski

    And that’s just the Senate.

    None of them (except Collins who is going to lose anyway) is up for reelection in November so I don’t know what you want President Trump to do about them.

    But the RNC is run by people picked by Trump. The people the RNC endorses are people Trump supports and we all hope he’s not wrong in giving them his support. (No more Mitt Romney’s!)

    If he has chosen wisely, the Trump-backed candidates will continue and accelerate the transformation of the House Republican Conference and that’s how the swamp gets drained.

    Remaking the Senate Republican Conference will take longer but they only have 6 year terms so that can be accomplished by the end of 2024.

  204. johanna

    Not covered until today by TheirABC – there is a huge fight going on about plans to renovate the War Memorial.

    It’s the usual let’s

    do some renos with other people’s money thing, but I especially enjoyed this bit:

    he AWM’s plans state that the motivation behind the development is “to modernise and expand our galleries and buildings so we can tell the continuing story of Australia’s contemporary contribution to a better world, through the eyes of those who have served in modern conflicts, connecting the spirit of our past, present, and future for generations to come”.

    “The detailed plans will ensure the heritage facade remains unchanged.”

    Current director of the AWM Matthew Anderson defended the process so far, and said the AWM “engaged in national consultations” prior to signing off on the plans.

    “We’ve visited 42 different cities to talk about what it is we want to achieve through the redevelopment,” he said.

    “What those veterans don’t have is a touch stone, they don’t have a place that tells their story, that recognises their service and says thank you.”

    What a glorious smorgasbord of junkfests it was. 42 cities?

    My dear chap, would you prefer Rome or Milan this time?

    Milan is so last year. But, I’ve heard that there are some very important war memorials around the coast of the former Yugoslavia.

    Right you are. There is a place with a population of over 50k there, hence a ‘city.’

    Tally-ho!

  205. johanna

    Format fugeddaboudit.

    But you get the idea.

  206. Perth Trader

    I’ve always found Albo to be a intellectual lightweight and everything he say’s is formed ,not from deep thought but from party politics. I can never forget his statement about his love of fighting ‘tories’. So immature.

  207. twostix

    Dirk, people will still start small businesses because it’s rewarding, not just financially.

    There’s a lot of people who aren’t going to quit their job, sign a two commerical year lease and take out a lines of credit and loans to start a medium risk small business knowing what they now know.

    It’s like minimum wage – at a certain point, certain jobs simply don’t get done.

    From now on certain businesses simply won’t be created or exist.

  208. Perth Trader

    How many coffee shops does Aust. need?…..Just because you know how to brew a cuppa , wont mean you can earn a living from it.

  209. MemoryFault

    If he has chosen wisely, the Trump-backed candidates will continue and accelerate the transformation of the House Republican Conference and that’s how the swamp gets drained.

    Remaking the Senate Republican Conference will take longer but they only have 6 year terms so that can be accomplished by the end of 2024.

    I sincerely hope you are right, Maj.
    If Trump cannot at least slow down the Deep State’s globalisation ambitions over the next four years, then all hope is lost here in Oz. The Borg will have won.

  210. Dr Faustus

    Coronavirus Australia live news: 63 Victorian infringements in 24 hours — people found at house party, hiding in cupboards, police say

    I’m assuming here that Vikpolizei have unlimited entry and search powers granted by the staatliche medizinische Richtlinie. Sniffer dogs, walls tapped for hiding places, loose floorboards lifted.

    We know you are here; come out now – or I start shooting the family pets…”

  211. Snoopy

    What I love about this is the exposure of public health “science” as being as corrupt and politisised as “climate change” “science”.

    Arguably the “science” of nutrition was the pacesetter. Is there a nutritionist who isn’t a complete loon?

  212. Eyrie

    Leftism turns your brain to mush. We get reminded of this everyday on the Cat.

  213. Cardimona

    Cats, I was mowing just now when I got a call from my region’s AM radio talkback host’s off-sider, Murray, (whom I’ve mentioned).
    He asked if I’d be right to talk to John (the host) about a letter I had in my region’s daily newspaper about the regional city’s CBD problems – which are a Council creation.

    Murray cautioned me “not to go to the subjects you know management doesn’t want you to talk about”, which is, as I’ve noted, the climate hoax and the covid hoax.

    So I said far enough and shut the mower down.

    Here’s the letter, which I wouldn’t have bothered to post at the Cat – because local.

    The Editor

    Does the Cairns Regional Council want to breathe life back into the CBD? Here’s how in eight easy steps.

    1. Maximise the traffic flow. Return to four lanes. Streets are the city’s arteries and you’ve given them atherosclerosis.

    2. Maximise the parking. It’s a tropical city. Walking = sweating. Trees don’t need to be in car-sized beds.

    3. Make the first hour’s parking free. Each additional hour can get more costly to encourage turnover.

    4. Return to individual meters. Coin or card. No dashboard tickets. Convenience is essential. So what if the next user gets a few free minutes.

    5. Give six months free rates to empty shop owners who give six months free rent to new tenants.

    6. Install additional public toilets. Again, convenience is essential.

    7. Shift “pedestrian spaces” to the Esplanade. Malls in the CBD facilitate criminal activity, especially at night.

    8. Stop pretending the CBD can be made like indoor centres, such as Cairns Central. A CBD is a different model entirely.

    You can have a very green, pretty but lifeless CBD or you can have a utilitarian, functional but busy CBD. You’ve already proven you can’t have a very green, pretty, busy CBD.

    (198 words)

    Anyway, John and I chatted back and forth about the various issues raised in the letter for 16 minutes and as he was running out of time I dropped in that I was thinking about taking a run in politics myself.

    Coulda heard a pin drop for a few seconds before John recovered and noted that at least my son-in-law would be able to help me.
    I replied that he wasn’t real popular with the LNP management and noted how bizarre that was given that he’s Australia’s best retail politician.

    Then I said I’d now need to tell my wife.

  214. twostix

    If anything – anything at all – goes wrong, it’s always the fault of the debil-debil Left in all its incarnations.

    Yes, like you a lot of old conservatives are still mentally living in last centuries dynamic with “the left” and “the right”.

    What progressive thinkers know is that what we have on our hands is an old fashioned class war.

    Powerful old men like you using your ill gotten class privilege to terrorise the regional working class’s children in your lopsided education establishment is one major aspect of it.

  215. Struth

    That’s right numbers, even the rain that falls won’t fill our dams……………care to comment.
    The Polar bears and arctic ice should now be long gone, …………….you’re a prime fuckwit.
    Listening to your fucking idiot so called experts should have you living on the coast up in Toowoomba.
    Look out your front window and give us a surf report, you stupid, evil fucker.

  216. MemoryFault

    From now on certain businesses simply won’t be created or exist.

    Too true, Twostix.
    Add to that the fact that, in future potential small businesses simply may be denied access to the capital required to get going in the first place, and there simply won’t be any.

  217. twostix

    Well this is interesting.

    The ATO now gives you a tax receipt. A breakdown of what your taxes were spent on last year.

    Over $10600 on welfare including $4500 being given to wealthy boomers.

    Good job.

    $2200 given to universities drowning in foreign money to further fund my children’s replacement.

    This is perfect.

  218. johanna

    You will go on being confused and disgusted for as long as you continue to think what has happened, and is happening, is the result of bungling and incompetence on the part of our politicians and others. It’s not. It is the unfolding and implementation of a carefully laid out plan of action.

    The behaviour of our elected representatives, resembling that of a large Spanish Mackeral landed on the boat by an unprepared Nick or Andrew on Hook, Line and Sinker, is some sort of carefully planned plot? Oceans 15? Get a grip. They are not that smart.

    There is no need for conspiracies when the zeitgeist is blowing your way.

    However, as stories emerge like the one about the woman who needs to take her mother across the QLD border for cancer treatment having to wait 3 hours, and people changing their number plates to avoid scrutiny and delays, it will unravel pretty fast.

  219. zyconoclast

    Dread Head Cowboy rides to the rescue of Chicago’s dismal response to 2020 U.S. census
    Chicago’s response rate is 55 percent — 20 points shy of Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s goal. In some South and West Side neighborhoods that desperately need an infusion of federal funding, the response rate is less than 40 percent.

  220. Old School Conservative

    “What those veterans don’t have is a touch stone, they don’t have a place that tells their story, that recognises their service and says thank you.”

    What is this bloke trying to say?
    That we don’t have war memorials dotted right around Australia and in France, the UK, and Turkey?
    That the AWM in Canberra doesn’t say “thank you” to our veterans?

    I’m calling BS and that there is a secret PC agenda at play.

  221. Nick

    Lol

    The tough financial reality for Rugby Australia is that their next broadcast deal is likely to be worth no more than $10m a year for its domestic competition.

    All up, a deal could be valued at $20m adding in $10m for Test matches. If RA secures a broadcast deal like this, it is $15m a year less than the deal offered by Foxtel to the Raelene Castle-led administration last November.

    Back then a five-year $US125m deal was tabled and RA walked away in the hope of starting a bidding war. It never materialised.

  222. Struth

    It still is leftism that is the problem.
    It doesn’t matter how they dress it up and what they call it, it is a socialist who thinks collectively, can’t grasp the concept of growing a pie, wants to steal other’s pieces of it and usually has designs on ruling ze vorld.
    They are usually elites and removed from the true workers and treat them like they’re all easily manipulated by them because they are by far smarter and so attempt to force their designs on the world because they actually can’t argue successfully for them, because they are actually fucking thick and arrogant, like Numbers exposes every day.
    They want to control the means of production, and as much as they can of everyone’s private life because they know what’s best for everyone else.

    etc etc.
    Make no mistake, if you are a globalist , you are a central governing , anti democratic socialist.
    Even if you think you are not.
    If it quacks like a socialist…………………..
    It’s nothing new, it’s the same old marxist shit.

  223. Mitch M.

    Snoopy
    #3513887, posted on July 15, 2020 at 1:58 pm
    What I love about this is the exposure of public health “science” as being as corrupt and politisised as “climate change” “science”.

    Arguably the “science” of nutrition was the pacesetter. Is there a nutritionist who isn’t a complete loon?

    No argument, nutrition is a mess. There can be wide variations in our metabolism that point to different nutrient requirements. For example an individual’s ability to absorb different nutrients can be an important variable. A few years ago some British scientists made a step forward with a DNA test that can suggest the best diet for an individual. It needs to go further and look at epigenetics and the proteome but it is a good starting point.

  224. Struth

    The behaviour of our elected representatives, resembling that of a large Spanish Mackeral landed on the boat by an unprepared Nick or Andrew on Hook, Line and Sinker, is some sort of carefully planned plot? Oceans 15? Get a grip. They are not that smart.

    Neither are you.
    Who said it was our elected representatives?

  225. Cassie of Sydney

    “It’s the *CC.
    Cult of Catallaxy.”

    You have to wonder why the rodent spends so much time here. I couldn’t help but notice how yesterday he was unusually demure and subdued. After the Dismissal letters were released, being the good rodent he is, he scuttled off because…because…the released correspondence definitely did not accord with the rodent’s cultish fantasies about what happened in November 1975.

  226. Infidel Tiger King

    New York Post
    @nypost
    ·
    4h
    Teens are dressing up as mask-wearing grandmas to score alcohol https://trib.al/vwUfuJ5

    The kids are OK.

  227. MemoryFault

    Over $10600 on welfare including $4500 being given to wealthy boomers.

    FMD Twostix, when are you going to give over knocking “boomers” for all the ills of the world?
    I’m a “boomer”, and I have money in the bank. YOU didn’t put it there.
    Moreover, I agree with nearly everything you write, in fact have done so three times just today.
    As well, over the last six months I have spent over $20,000 of MY money and hundreds of hours of MY time, setting up websites to start a fightback campaign as soon as the Cash Restrictions Bill and/or the raid on our super become public.

    I’m not looking for your approval for my efforts, but will you please stop kicking me in the teeth every fvcking day that you comment here at the Cat?

  228. candy

    The BLM protest and the housing commission blocks in Melbourne and virus is all intertwined.
    Disadvantage, minorities, protests, public housing, family social contact, spread of virus.

    Still it’s a failure of government and the National Cabinet, who just crossed their fingers and hoped it would be okay, too scared to enforce their own regulations because of being called racist.

    I think the same happens in USA but the protests there have a sinister intent.

  229. Struth

    Google Jane Halton and see what she has been up to Johanna, because we have thousands of these pieces of shit in our swamp absolutely ear bashing our dumb politicians.
    All those Marxist CMO’s active in WHO and as well many politicians who are also stupid and evil enough to sell Australia out, crumble to threats, or want to bring on ze revolution.

  230. Struth

    but the protests there have a sinister intent.

    That’s right, ours are just prayer groups out to bless their fellow man.

  231. Maj

    Lol

    The tough financial reality for Rugby Australia is that their next broadcast deal is likely to be worth no more than $10m a year for its domestic competition.

    All up, a deal could be valued at $20m adding in $10m for Test matches. If RA secures a broadcast deal like this, it is $15m a year less than the deal offered by Foxtel to the Raelene Castle-led administration last November.

    Back then a five-year $US125m deal was tabled and RA walked away in the hope of starting a bidding war. It never materialised.

    It’s not like I’m not enjoying the punishment the God of Abraham is meting out to RA, but even if they did sack Raelene Castle earlier and take the deal Foxtel put of the table, that was a deal Foxtel could and would have walked away from as soon as the Wuhan Flu closed the borders.

    What’s worse for Union, the $10m from the test matches is never going to happen. With the borders closed you would be lucky to get a couple of All Blacks tests this year and next. No one else is going to travel here.

  232. thefrollickingmole

    egg_
    #3513682, posted on July 15, 2020 at 10:53 am

    Good vid, i bet tons of stuff was buried to protect it during the Isssssslam takeover of India, with a lot of the people doing so dying in the following conflicts.

  233. Eyrie

    “Listening to your fucking idiot so called experts should have you living on the coast up in Toowoomba.
    Look out your front window and give us a surf report, you stupid, evil fucker.

    Struth, as a Toowoomba resident I’m looking forward to the sea level rise. Bring it on! I’d love a surf beach at the bottom of the range in Port Withcott 🙂
    Unfortunately it won’t happen.

  234. MemoryFault

    They are not that smart.

    No, Johanna, they are not.
    But then, they are not the ones calling the shots.
    They are simply doing, and saying, what they are told to do and say.
    That should have become obvious to you some time ago. I’m surprised it hasn’t.

  235. Zatara

    But the RNC is run by people picked by Trump. The people the RNC endorses are people Trump supports and we all hope he’s not wrong in giving them his support. (No more Mitt Romney’s!)

    No, it’s not. That’s not the way it works. Trump doesn’t own the GOP. The GOP has its own internal workings and they have nothing to do with Trump. They have endorsed more than one candidate contrary to Trump’s wishes.

    If he has chosen wisely, the Trump-backed candidates will continue and accelerate the transformation of the House Republican Conference and that’s how the swamp gets drained.

    Pick people who support you and they will support you? Umm, ok.

    None of them (except Collins who is going to lose anyway) is up for reelection in November so I don’t know what you want President Trump to do about them.

    Collins will probably go down because she tried to half-ass everything she did. She pissed people on both sides off while not making anyone happy. Trump needs to point out to the voters when these RINOs forget who elected them. Point it out often enough and they don’t get elected next time.

  236. Eyrie

    IIRC Jane Halton’s daddy was one Charles Halton, Canadian bureaucrat brought to Australia by Whitlam to head up the Dept of Transport. God knows why as we’ve always had enough Australian bureacrats to stuff things up on our own.
    Looks like a family of congenital tax eaters.

  237. Struth

    I think some people really need to understand the influence of the UN on Australian government, from non government councils to the Federal bureaucrats.
    When we finally understand the quietest bloke at the moment, who isn’t usually, oddly enough, is our nations leader, no matter what Sco Mo thinks of himself, the public service are taking their orders from Antonio Guterres, and our senior bureaucrats who are on their knees under his desk.
    The bastards haven’t even left enough room for Kevin Rudd to reach his hand in to fondle his scrotum.

  238. Delta A

    Then I said I’d now need to tell my wife.

    It’s been a while since the above, Cardi.

    RUOK?

    🙂

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