Tuesday Forum: July 14, 2020

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  1. Juan Williams is just showing his colours. Gutfeld is excellent in smacking him around.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Rex Anger

    #3515268, posted on July 16, 2020 at 5:08 pm

    General philosophical question for the OT veterans:

    Does the following qualify in any way as a flounce?

    It’s hard to respond to someone who has no idea what he is talking about and has no business in these discussions

    Where did that idiocy come from Rex?

  3. egg_

    I think I’ll sample some choice OCO quotes about the Gym.

  4. Diogenes

    I suppose that competition among unions would be too much to wish for. Give employees a choice. If Liberals lived up to their name, they would ensure it is possible.

    I hear on the grapevine that in Qld someone has set up a competing union, but are having difficulty being recognised by EQ.

  5. egg_

    If a bin chook posts a video, and no one clicks on it did the bin chook exist?

    Who cares?

  6. Rex Anger

    @ Leigh Lowe-

    IamUpsetCosTheBadRexAngerManHurtMyFeefees.

    Aka Petey

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Diogenes, I spoke to a public accountant I know socially about the $10k.
    She gave out a big sigh.

    Gummint Announce Cash Splash. $10k all round. I now have to explain why not everyone qualifies.

    I didn’t go into detail.

  8. Rex Anger

    @ Gunner- Acknowledged. I need to work a bit harder to provoke a troll-flounce.

  9. Rafe Champion

    Another politically correct book award by the look of it. The 2020 Miles Franklin.

  10. egg_

    Did ya get a few more free swings in this morning, little inadequate man?

    To quote Cartman on the ‘bike Club’ fairies, again:

    ‘You do know you all look like total fags, right?’

    Pride goes before a fall, Marcus Adonis.
    What’s homophobia all about, anyway?

  11. Memory Fault:

    I’ve already put forward the possibility of a complete and total global economic meltdown on
    August 27/28. or September 3/4.

    Can you give us a link or a heads up as to what will happen, MV?
    I’d just like to be prepared…

  12. Snoopy

    What is a 380?

    It’s something like a P76 but you can’t fit a 44 gallon drum in the boot.

  13. Snoopy

    I’d just like to be prepared…

    Don’t sell your 380.

  14. johanna

    There is so much more to find out, but that was just a taste for Johanna’s benefit.

    I watched a bit of it. You misunderstand my point. Networkers gonna network. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just what they do.

    Also, what is your endgame? Are you going to transform society by revealing these alleged conspiracies?

    Get real.

    The way to deal with it is by pushback at local levels, such as Poland and Hungary are doing in the EU. Such as the Baulkham Hills Shire Council canning the bogus ‘welcome to country’ bullshit. Such as that Pauline Hansen, with all her flaws, has stuck it out and still commands support from a lot of people.

    No doubt your special insight into The Illuminati gives you great comfort, but it matters not a jot or tittle in real life.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3515188, posted on July 16, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    If I can put people in hospital with my comments, then I am your chosen god.

    Kneel before me or feel my wrath.

    So.
    Just kneeling then.
    Nothing else?
    I mean, it won’t be like Scout camp will it?

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Hard day at the desk, big guy?’

    Sure. Analysing all the military stuff. Bit of pig shooting at lunchtime in the Moke as well.

    Hope I don’t get doxxed by a Couch Colombo.

  17. egg_

    https://www.deere.com.au/en/engines-and-drivetrain/marine-diesel-engines/

    New to me, ours were in air compressors, but stationary engines are often marine grade.

  18. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Leigh Lowe at 3:48 pm:

    ” MemoryFault … July 16 … at 3:45 pm

    … you think somebody from here ending up in hospital … is a laughing matter, speaks volumes about you.
    I repeat – you are one sick fvck.”

    That sounded familiar … then I recalled it was singing the same song yesterday, but it was someone else who was being horrid, just horrid:

    “From MemoryFault July 15 at 7:08 pm:

    ” …
    Jesus you are low life scum, impotent prawn.
    You know damn well what you just wrote is utter crap.

    I stated … you had put a fellow Cat in hospital, twice. … after the first time blah, blah …”

    Leigh’s response today at 3:48 pm continued as:

    “He/she was probably always headed there, and was going to find a trigger somewhere.
    It is not funny.
    But nor is it the responsibility of anyone here.
    I for one don’t miss the defaming of innocent men.”

    My passing comment yesterday (about someone being hospitalised with electronic digital injuries suffered on a blog) bears repeating:

    “I have been entertained by many grand assertions here, and have shaken my head in disbelief that some, ostensibly adults, find it difficult to appreciate a dinky little blog of anonymous strangers is no more than that. This claim gets top marks for giggleworthiness. 😆 😁 😂

    Delta A at 6:59 pm makes a pertinent observation:

    “… nobody on (an) anonymous blog is a buddy. … approach everyone as an interesting/uninteresting stranger.”

    I see Nick at 3:49 pm weighs in with:

    “… somebody from here ending up in hospital …

    Name them.
    Is it the love of your life who both hadn’t even met you and at one time refused to have contact with you ?
    🤣 😂

    and dear Johanna says at 4:10 pm, accurately:

    “Look, MV, accusing people of ‘putting someone in hospital’ … is looney tunes stuff.
    … this is not a therapeutic environment … lots of clashing ideas … If you don’t like the heat etc
    ….
    Sooky la-las don’t last long here.”

  19. egg_

    Analysing all the military stuff.

    So you caught up with the thread, big guy?

  20. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #3515298, posted on July 16, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    What is a 380?

    It’s something like a P76 but you can’t fit a 44 gallon drum in the boot.

    I am looking for something European with a big boot.
    Needs to be able to accommodate the All England Law Reports plus three copies of the Constitution (one each in English, Braille and Auslan).

  21. MemoryFault

    Can you give us a link or a heads up as to what will happen, MV?

    It’s when shares go down, Winston. Precipitously.
    It happened in 1987 and again in 2008/09.
    Like me, you’re no spring chicken – surely you remember?

  22. Snoopy

    “… somebody from here ending up in hospital …

    Name them.

    Delta A.

  23. egg_

    It must be sad to be “analysing” time sheets and OHS reports in Woop Woop, these days?

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Sooky la-las don’t belong here.’

    Oh, I dunno. There’s one here at present doing just that.

    This one’s taken to repeatedly quoting his own comments, in bold before zooming off on tangents.

    Probably never ridden a big bike through a corner though.

  25. Leigh Lowe

    Probably never ridden a big bike through a corner though.

    I hear the Commancheros don’t accept members with red Aussie Post scooters.

  26. egg_

    What’s with the “manual ute” test, big guy?

  27. you jest surely?

    Nope, legit.
    But I’m going to film my attempts for the crowd.
    Are you not Entertained?
    H/t Buff Russ

  28. “You’ll never defeat The Cobras!”

  29. Nick

    Strange. If the OT gets shut down again, there’s a common factor I just can’t put my finger on.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    Tell us again how big the BIG yellow trucks are egg.
    It must feel roolly important working on the BIG yellow trucks.
    Tell us more.

  31. egg_

    Aussie Post scooters.

    There’s an annual race event for same that a work mate was involved in.
    There was a modified class as well – the outright winner was a moped with a chainsaw motor.
    All on a dirt track IIRC.

  32. Makka

    No doubt your special insight into The Illuminati gives you great comfort, but it matters not a jot or tittle in real life.

    This is naive bullshit. When you have global organisations and forces like Soros and the Clintons working hand in glove with others like Planned Parentood, BLM, the UN, WHO etc pushing their agendas for Climate Change and ruinables, third world immigration, destabilizing and influencing elected Govts you can be certain they aren’t some fabrication. Covid scam is a perfect global example of how to fk nations.You bet these forces are conspiring together for mutual benefit. Baulkam Hills Council may be able to stop the welcome to country bullshit but that is token window dressing compared to what majorly influences life and livelihoods.

  33. egg_

    “Step throughs” actually.

  34. Nick

    Oh

    Monash Uni to slash hundreds of jobs
    Monash Uni is the latest Group of Eight institution to confirm mass job losses, with nearly 300 to go by year’s end.

  35. cohenite

    4 years ago anti Trump protestors gave a taste of what they are doing now:

    https://www.facebook.com/subjectpolitics/videos/1687374034813483/?v=1687374034813483

  36. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3515329, posted on July 16, 2020 at 5:41 pm

    Oh

    Monash Uni to slash hundreds of jobs
    Monash Uni is the latest Group of Eight institution to confirm mass job losses, with nearly 300 to go by year’s end.

    Fault has predictions for October.
    Here’s mine.
    You know all those academics calling for Big Shut Down back in April?
    If you find one in October, hand it in to the museum.
    This is good actually.
    The immune suddenly realising that they are not.

  37. egg_

    Tell us again how big the BIG yellow trucks are egg.
    It must feel roolly important working on the BIG yellow trucks.
    Tell us more.

    Are they a ute?
    Manual utes hold some special significance for Marcus Adonis.
    It must be his new NT work vehicle or summut.
    Days of the Moke and P76 are long gone?

  38. calli

    Another poor soul completely disadvantaged by her racial background. I feel so sad about her tough life.

  39. Nick

    The Mocker

    What a comedown from 2017, when FitzSimons wrote excitedly “Hocking’s analysis reveals that unelected British officials, and very likely the Queen herself, were aware that Australia’s democratically elected leader was likely going to be dismissed well before Gough himself, and – in the case of the officials at least – even took part in meetings that helped make it happen.” By the sounds of it, FitzSimons had expected the release would reveal a holographic image of the Queen telling Kerr to “Execute Order 66”.

    We can expect the bush lawyers to rage for days on end, but to no avail. Professor Anne Twomey, one of Australia’s foremost constitutional law experts, said that the release of the letters had done nothing to advance the conspiracy theories. “So the Kerr-Palace letters, instead of showing that the Palace interfered in the dismissal of the Whitlam government,” she wrote, “showed that Whitlam sought palace interference, but didn’t get it. We are an independent country after all.”

    Not surprisingly, FitzSimons has tried to spin this latest setback as an opportunity to argue the case for an Australian republic. His enthusiasm is admirable, his faith in his ability to achieve that is vastly exaggerated. Writing in the Sydney Morning Herald in January 1997 about a phone poll that revealed 34 per cent of British citizens were opposed to the monarchy, he was schadenfreude on steroids.
    “It is going to be neither helpful nor productive to laugh at the Australian monarchists’ plight – Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! – like that, and all of us must resist the temptation to completely guffaw out loud, maybe like this – HA! HA! HA! HAW! HAW! HAW! – what must clearly be excruciating for them,” he wrote.

  40. egg_

    If the OT gets shut down again, there’s a common factor I just can’t put my finger on.

    The clown posse seems rather busy.

  41. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3515323, posted on July 16, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    Strange. If the OT gets shut down again, there’s a common factor I just can’t put my finger on.

    Interesting that.
    Fault has ceased his diversionary tactics on that one since Calli ever so politely sat him on his arse.

  42. Knuckle Dragger

    I told you.

    I was pig shooting in the Moke at lunchtime.

    You never listen. That’s why I ended it.

    There is no ‘us’. Not any more. *sniff*

  43. johanna

    Our $1.2 billion per year is increasingly being spent on feelz, not facts. For example:

    History has been made in the Queensland Parliament with the government introducing a bill to legally recognise Torres Strait Islander adoption practices.

    If passed, the legislation will allow a child to be adopted by a relative or community member — in a practice known as Kupai Omasker — and for that adoption to be legally recognised in the same way as Western adoptions.

    State member for Cook, Cynthia Lui, fought back tears as she introduced the bill to parliament this morning.

    “This has been an incredibly long journey for Torres Strait Islander peoples to see this traditional practice be legally recognised in Queensland law, and the introduction of this bill today puts us one step closer to realising this long-fought recognition,” Ms Lui said.

    “Today, I speak in my cultural truth that children who are raised under this practice deserve only love, respect, dignity and acceptance, and the questions about who they are and where they come from are irrelevant.

    The rest of the story was people blubbering and emoting.

    There was absolutely no explanation of the legal, historical or cultural framework. Just one person after another saying how meaningful it is.

    The critical and analytical faculties of a newt would be awesome in TheirABC.

    As it happens, I support this proposal in principle. It merely legalises long-standing practice, and has limited application. Kids being adopted by relatives is almost always better than them being thrust into the caring arms of the State, with results that are uniformly dreadful.

    But, it is infuriating that TheirABC is so complacent and shoddy that they made no attempt to explain what this story is about. None. They just switched on the emoticons, much easier than doing actual work.

    These parasites are getting paid every week while hundreds of thousands of hard working proles are out of work, small-medium businesses are going to the wall.

    Grrr!

  44. egg_

    ‘Sooky la-las don’t belong here.’

    Oh, I dunno. There’s one here at present doing just that.

    This one’s taken to repeatedly quoting his own comments, in bold before zooming off on tangents.

    Probably never ridden a big bike through a corner though.

    Cripes, where’s the list of 4 items from the analysis?

    Can I have a go at parodying Marcus Adonis?

  45. egg_

    I was pig shooting in the Moke at lunchtime.

    Sounds like vehicle for F.A.G.?
    That wouldn’t suit you?

  46. Nick

    The Mocker again

    Last Monday ABC’s Q&A dedicated an entire show to former Prime Minister Julia Gillard. Ostensibly the program was an occasion for her to reflect on her prime ministership. However, the fact that the words “gender” and “misogyny” were mentioned no fewer than 25 and 11 times gives you an idea as to where this was headed.

    According to host Hamish MacDonald, Western democratic female leaders “are the winners” in responding to the coronavirus. In response to a female audience member who cited gender as an impediment in entering Parliament, he asked “Did the experience that Julia Gillard went through as prime minister encourage you to pursue politics or discourage you”. For good measure, MacDonald played an excerpt from Gillard’s so-called misogyny speech.

    How strange. The same people who whimper that a female politician is always singled out because of their gender, say that those of the same gender are better leaders.

  47. Boambee John

    Peter M/F

    Politicians can’t help themselves – they have to claim credit for everything.

    Fine. Claim the credit, wear the blame when the OPM runs out! If they had any nous, they would paint it as a successful collaboration between government and the super funds, led by the funds. Which would then be first in line for blame when it all turns to [email protected], as it will eventually.

  48. Nick

    The last para was my comment.

  49. calli

    It was amusing how Numbers warned me off pursuing the possibility of a BLM/covid link, even though a couple of papers had reported it.

    For some reason, we are not to even entertain the thought of such a link. I’m not sure why. It must be very important to the narrative and protected. It will be of course.

    But the amount of squid ink always gets my curiosity going. And it was copious.

  50. calli

    And speaking of BLM. If you’re in the least concerned for Maxwell, spare a thought for Chauvin.

  51. Knuckle Dragger

    Can’t disclose the Analysis List.

    Top Secret. You understand.

  52. Makka

    For some reason, we are not to even entertain the thought of such a link. I’m not sure why. It must be very important to the narrative and protected. It will be of course.

    Leftard Morning Talking Points, calli.

    The mindless minions were told to suppress and deflect all such interrogations across social media. Can’t have the truth leaking out can we?

  53. Frank

    Leigh Lowe

    I mean, it won’t be like Scout camp will it?

    Care to elaborate?

  54. Knuckle Dragger

    Speaking of Top Secret:

    All posse members, check your email. There’s an egg joke.

    The first line ends in ‘Nantucket’.

  55. johanna

    Nelson, thanks for the Joe the w o g clip. I didn’t know he did pub rock that well.

    Someone else posted a righteous clip of his band with those two Aboriginal girl singers, who were superb.

    As I said above, I hope he got to keep some of the money he generated in the music biz. But looking at his history, where he used any extra money to add more musicians, I am dubious.

  56. Leigh Lowe:

    What is a 380?
    Is that an Airbus?

    A Mitsubishi 380.
    You bloody peasant – best car ever made in Australia – even better than a P76.

  57. MemoryFault

    If they had any nous, they would paint it as a successful collaboration between government and the super funds, led by the funds.

    I think you replied to your own statement, John. See bolding above. We’re talking about politicians, after all. They just can’t help themselves.
    Besides which, it will take at least twelve to fifteen years to reach the point of accountability because all the super money is gone, and everybody’s back on some form of OAP “welfare”. Probably longer. By that stage ScoMo and others responsible will be long gone into very lucrative retirement.
    Elsewhere.

  58. Nick

    Care to elaborate?

    Lol, do you really want to know ?

  59. cohenite

    Another poor soul completely disadvantaged by her racial background. I feel so sad about her tough life.

    Pretty little thing; from the puff piece:

    Speaking to the ABC from France, where she has lived since 2011, the author said, “It feels wrong to win the big ones, and these types of awards should be split down the longlist when we’re in such economically unstable times.”

    Both stories are about young women returning home for the funeral of a patriarch, to find their ancestral lands under threat from mining companies. Both novels feature a missing sister, whose absence haunts the protagonist.

    Riveting.

  60. egg_

    OK the checklist:

    Manual ute
    Duct tape
    Cable ties

    All hairdresser stuff, no decent tools like spanners and torque wrenches and stuff?

  61. MatrixTransform

    The missus in a private spazzBook thread posted a pic of some buff tradie along with a throw away line.
    within hours the thread headed to the gutter
    sordid affairs
    yearnings for a root
    bitter old moles

    She felt guilty
    today she informed me that somebody else started posting affirmations
    and she felt much better

    …even printed one out for me

    reminds me of this joint the last 24 hrs

    “Each day I’m growing confident in my social skills”
    or
    “my conversations are natural and flow well”
    or
    “even if they steal my Super, I’m still a good person”
    or
    “it doesn’t matter if its a big red car or a little red car or Kawasiki 500 triple … your’e going places”
    or
    “vietnam was so last millennium … concentrating on the ‘now’ is sooo progressive”
    or
    “lockdown is a great opportunity to work on my inner self”

    fucking Nannas

  62. Leigh Lowe

    A Mitsubishi 380.
    You bloody peasant – best car ever made in Australia – even better than a P76.

    Well, thank you.
    That is today’s learnin’ taken care of.

  63. Don’t sell your 380.
    Lol. How much is pristine Toyota Crown worth these days?
    The G8 will be extremely lucrative down the way.
    Will there be Mitsi 380 fan Bois in 20 years?
    Yeah nah

  64. I bought a tub of popcorn today. A big tub.
    Actually, it was a bloody huge tub.
    Could barely fit it in the boot of the 380.
    Should have taken the P76…

  65. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3515358, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:01 pm

    Speaking of Top Secret:

    All posse members, check your email. There’s an egg joke.

    The first line ends in ‘Nantucket’.

    Got it.
    Snort!
    I don’t think Sinc will be overly happy if you post it here, particularly the bit about the site apprentice.

  66. “even if they steal my Super, I’m still a good person”

    Fk that’s funny
    🤣🤣🤣

  67. Leigh Lowe

    reminds me of this joint the last 24 hrs

    Jeez.
    Did I say all that?

  68. Egg – can you drive a stick?
    Yes/no

  69. MatrixTransform

    actually, I been p155ing my self laughing read yous all

    quite the hoot!

  70. Leigh Lowe

    Tailgunner

    #3515372, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    Egg – can you drive a stick?
    Yes/no

    Is it BIG?
    Is it yellow?

  71. The girls are Vika and Linda Bull, who have Tongan heritage but grew up in the Doncaster area. Joe had some great stuff at that time with the girls adding another dimension!

    Had to put up The Crack-Up, seemed appropriate for this thread.

  72. Leigh, get a cool seaweed selfie for your avatar!
    Pink is so passe.

  73. egg_

    Oh come on
    #3136486, posted on August 20, 2019 at 10:44 pm
    Knuckly, drop the act. Or don’t. You say you’re not MK50, but I say you are. Deny it all you like.

  74. MatrixTransform

    a nice “affirmation”

    **chuckles

  75. johanna

    Did someone here diss Datsun 180Bs?

    My sister had one for years, she bought it used. It was never serviced, started every time on the first attempt, and the only reason it got oil was because her then boyfriend suggested it.

    She has had many cars since then, but admits that the 180B was the best buy ever. Indestructible.

  76. Frank

    Could barely fit it in the boot of the 380.

    Is that like a Suzuki Mighty Boy?

  77. Yeah nah, not 39 gear fkn iron ore trucks, a fast car I mean.
    Can you give me some burnout tips?
    Every hoon Cat actually.
    I’m all ears.
    #babyboganlyfe

  78. calli

    Politeness” is my middle name.

    It comes in very handy sometimes.

  79. Leigh Lowe

    Tailgunner

    #3515377, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    Leigh, get a cool seaweed selfie for your avatar!
    Pink is so passe.

    Ah, the avatar.
    I haven’t looked for a while but I think there is a problem there.
    But, yeah, the King Neptune seaweed hair might be cool.

  80. Been going to a chiropractor each week for a month. Whilst it has been very much worth the money, I can only think that that profession swim in dollars, a la Daffy Duck when he and Bugs Bunny chance upon the 40 Thieves’ loot in a cave. Today’s effort was 56 bucks for 15 minutes.

  81. Top Ender

    Miles Franklin win bittersweet for Winch

    Indigenous author Tara June Winch is a rare Miles Franklin winner. She is pleased to have won the nation’s most prestigious literary award but she is disappointed she cannot share it with her fellow shortlistees and with all indigenous writers.

    “Stop it at the short-list,’’ Wollongong-born Winch tells The Australian from her home in southwest France, where she has lived for almost a decade. “They are all winners. Read them all.”

    Winch, 36, won the Miles Franklin, worth $60,000, for her third book, a novel titled The Yield. That makes it back-to-back wins for indigenous writers, following Melissa Lucashenko receiving the 2019 award for Too Much Lip.

    The Yield centres on an indigenous woman, August Gondiwindi, returning home from a decade overseas for the funeral of her grandfather, Albert Gondiwindi, who had been compiling a dictionary to preserve the language of his people.

    The novel includes pages from his work, translating English words into the Wiradjuri language. He decided to compile in reverse, meaning yield (baayanha), with its double meaning, is an early entry and Australia (Ngurambang) is the final entry. With the word Ngurambang, he notes early in the novel, “If you say it right it hits the back of your mouth and you should taste blood in your words.’’

    “The Yield explores the legacies of colonial violence, shame, intergenerational trauma and environmental destruction,’’ says chief judge Richard Neville of the State Library of NSW.

    “Winch celebrates and amplifies the contemporary resurgence and relevance of the Wiradjuri language. The Yield, a story of pain, loss, resilience and hope, is a novel where the past is the present is the future.’’

    Winch, who is Wiradjuri, is the fourth indigenous writer to win the Miles Franklin, which was first awarded in 1957, to Patrick White for Voss. The other indigenous recipients are Lucashenko, dual winner Kim Scott (in 2000 and 2011) and Alexis Wright (2007).

    The other short-listed writers, who each receive $5000, were indigenous author Tony Birch (The White Girl), Carrie Tiffany (Exploded View), Peggy Frew (Islands), Philip Salom (The Returns) and John Hughes (No One).

    Winch says her success is bittersweet, especially because Birch has been a significant influence on her writing. “It’s not our cultural way to pit us against each other,’’ she says. “I would prefer Tony to be winning this.”

    She says the recent success of indigenous writers is welcome but adds the Australian literary world still has a lot of catching up to do “to acknowledge the work we have done as indigenous writers”. She thinks indigenous writers should make up 50 per cent of bookstores, 50 per cent of literary festivals, rather than being confined to the “small tents”.

    “People say, ‘Why are you guys writing so much now?’, to which I say, ‘It’s not we who have changed, it’s you who have changed. You are seeing us now.’

    “I hope the presence of Tony Birch and myself on the shortlist signals to the publishing industry that we can write our own stories, and that we don’t want to be spoken for.

    “I also hope it encourages the next generation of indigenous voices, to know there is a space for them in the industry, and in the minds and hearts of a new era of readers. We need to hear voices from the whole country to truly immerse ourselves in the song of Australia.’’

    STEPHEN ROMEI
    LITERARY EDITOR
    Stephen Romei is the literary editor and a film critic at The Australian and The Weekend Australian.

  82. chrisl

    Johanna Those lovely ladies in The Black Sorrows are Linda and Vicka Bull . Not aboriginal. Absolute legends around the Melbourne music scene. Joe Camilleri was a very shrewd operator when it came to writing credits on his albums. Somehow ended up as co-writer on lotsa songs. He also invested well in houses in the SE suburbs of Melb. Still performing …I think he is doing OK.

  83. egg_

    Egg – can you drive a stick?
    Yes/no

    From our top Analyst:

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3514404, posted on July 15, 2020 at 9:19 pm
    ‘Rarely move off the Open Thread, these days?’

    Rarely ever, Trevor.

    I’ve actually spent the day analysing digital body language. This is really a thing, and you can use it in court.

    Anyway, I have deduced, through the dark science of said digital body language that the resident haymaker-whenever-he’s-feeling-left-out has a 93.1% chance of being:

    1. Pigeon-chested; and
    2. A bit nervous and anxious, disguised as belligerence; and
    3. Can’t drive a manual ute; AND
    4. Has all the Big Bang series hidden on a terabyte thumb drive for special occasions. Like Thursdays.

  84. Leigh Lowe

    Nice sideswipes calli.

  85. Old tyres from the local trader Gunner. Then give it the beans

  86. MatrixTransform

    pull yr socks up.

    …the missus says, “talk to yourselves like you talk to your kids”

  87. egg_

    Leigh Lowe
    #3515389, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:22 pm
    Nice sideswipes calli.

    Just “3 people expressing the same opinion” at the same time?

  88. MatrixTransform

    Today’s effort was 56 bucks for 15 minutes.

    Try the Osteo mate … mine has been brilliant

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Indigenous author Tara June Winch is a rare Miles Franklin winner. She is pleased to have won the nation’s most prestigious literary award but she is disappointed she cannot share it with her fellow shortlistees and with all indigenous writers.

    Comment from that article “Come back, Helen Demidenko. All is forgiven.”

  90. Mmmyes Lucashenko. A well known tribal elder of the Ukraine nation.

  91. I can only think that that profession swim

    Maybe you’ve answered your own query, BB?
    Can you swim? I reckon swimming would be great for a back issue.

  92. calli

    Sideswipes? Maybe.

    All part of the fun.

  93. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball

    #3515390, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:25 pm

    Old tyres from the local trader Gunner. Then give it the beans

    He he.
    A mate had a tyre service in my old hometown.
    A few years back all tyre services in the town got a visit from Plod one Monday to politely ask them not to sell/give old nearly bald tyres to the hoons of the town.

  94. egg_

    particularly the bit about the site apprentice.

    Avoid Marcus Adonis in the toilet block?

  95. Then give it the beans
    Hehe
    Did someone say Sarah n Tuned?

  96. Leigh Lowe

    How does the osteo go treating raging paranoia?

  97. notafan

    Nothing stopping Miles Franklin winner from sharing the winnings herself.

  98. Top Ender

    A man has been shot dead by police in Melbourne’s northwest this afternoon.

    The incident happened in Katrina Drive in Gladstone Park about 3.30pm. It is understood a female was being attacked by the man before he was shot. The woman was stabbed multiple times by the man and the violent assault was still underway when police arrived.

    In the frenzied attack, the woman suffered stab wounds to her face. Ambulance Victoria said the woman was in a critical condition.

    The horrific incident occurred near John Coutts Reserve. Police said they were called to parkland in Katrina Drive after reports of a man assaulting a woman.

    “Upon police arrival, members have discharged their firearm resulting in the death of a male,” police spokesman Rohan Imms said.

    It took police less than a minute to take action against the assailant.

    “They came back 30 seconds later to advise shots had been fired,” Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said.

    “A lot happens in 30 seconds, including time to issue a warning, time to give a person to do what they are being asked. If those warnings aren’t being complied with in attacking another individual, of course police have to take action.”

    Police said it was not clear what weapon was used but confirmed “stabbing motions” had been described by witnesses.

    It is unclear what the man’s motive was, or the circumstances which led up to the attack.

    Police are investigating if the man and elderly woman come from the same family but they have not been able to identify the woman due to the extent of her injuries.

    Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said the man was “known to police” but he did not have a criminal record.

    “Police have sought to assist him in the past,” Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said.

    “We have had recent contact with him but there was nothing in that contact that indicated to us the events of today might have occured.”

    Eyewitness Blake said it was a “chaotic” scene which had been saturated with police and ambulances.

    “I’ve never seen anything like it, it looked like a war zone,” he told the Herald Sun.

    “It was so loud. There were that many sirens.”

    Katrina Drive resident Tina Gatt said there was “a whole lot of police” near her home which drew her attention.

    When she went outside to have a look at what was going on, they didn’t divulge any information about what had happened and sent her back to her home.

    “It is usually pretty quiet here,” she said.

    “When I saw the police, I thought ‘I hope it is not drugs or bikies’, but this is terrible.

    “It is out of the blue for this to happen.”

    When asked what she thought about the fatal incident Ms Gatt responded: “It is really sad.”

    Katrina Drive resident Tina Gatt said there was “a whole lot of police” near her home which drew her attention.

    When she went outside to have a look at what was going on, they didn’t divulge any information about what had happened and sent her back to her home.

    “It is usually pretty quiet here,” she said.

    “When I saw the police, I thought ‘I hope it is not drugs or bikies’, but this is terrible.

    “It is out of the blue for this to happen.”

    When asked what she thought about the fatal incident Ms Gatt responded: “It is really sad.”

    Other neighbours reported hearing yelling and arguing in John Coutts Reserve – a popular walking and dog park – before gunshots rang out.

    One woman who lives nearby said the shooting sounded like it had occurred at the park.She said she then heard a police helicopter flying overhead.A police roadblock was set up along Katrina Drive with tape blocking traffic at the corner of Burbank Ave. A man was seen being escorted by police up Katrina Drive and helped into the back of a Toyota Yaris at 5.45pm.

    Homicide Squad detectives will investigate the incident which will be oversighted by Professional Standards Command, as per protocol when a police firearm is discharged.

    Police are expected to speak to the media shortly.

    ‘NOT A RANDOM ATTACK’

    Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said police received multiple calls to triple zero about the “frenzied attack”.

    Upon arrival police found a male suspect in his 30s “seriously assaulting” an older female, who was known to him.

    “It was not a random attack,” Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said.

    “Our members called upon the individual who was assaulting the older female to stop, he refused to do so.”

    The top cop of the North West Metro region described the incident as a “tragic event” and assured the community police had acted appropriately.

    “Those members have acted appropriately, they have been decisive, they have taken action, they have acted in a way to keep the community safe and stop what was a frenzied attack from continuing,” he said.

    “My heart goes out to those members.”

    He revealed the police officers involved were junior members and arrived on scene in six minutes.

    Herald Sun

  99. egg_

    Anyone running standard ECU software in their diesel VWs or waaaaaaaaaah!?

  100. MatrixTransform

    How does the osteo go treating raging paranoia?

    by gently massaging into Public Policy

  101. Knuckle Dragger

    Matrix, your posted affirmation:

    “it doesn’t matter if its a big red car or a little red car or Kawasiki 500 triple … your’e going places”

    Haaaaaaahahahahaaaa. Haaaa.

    Perfect.

  102. calli

    Just “3 people expressing the same opinion” at the same time?

    Too cryptic for me egg_.

    I have a nice selection of cards. Something for all occasions, and most of them not bitchy at all.

  103. Nah, just juice myself like Taylah Jack. That will work

  104. notafan

    I’m going to watch A Touch of Frost.

    The heroics of the dumpy little main character get a little tedious.

    But there are others who are far more tedious.

    And weird

    And getting weirder.

  105. johanna

    Thanks, Nelson. They sure can sing, and they look good, too.

    For those who missed it, the Bull sisters blowing off the roof:

    Nelson_Kidd-Players
    #3515376, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    The girls are Vika and Linda Bull, who have Tongan heritage but grew up in the Doncaster area. Joe had some great stuff at that time with the girls adding another dimension!

    Had to put up The Crack-Up, seemed appropriate for this thread.

    For those who missed it, here are the Bull sisters gettin’ business done:

  106. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘A man has been shot dead by police in Melbourne’s northwest this afternoon.’

    Just wait for the mouthpieces to come out with the mental elf de….

    Oh. Carry on. Good result.

  107. Roger

    Indigenous author Tara June Winch is a rare Miles Franklin winner. She is pleased to have won the nation’s most prestigious literary award but she is disappointed she cannot share it with her fellow shortlistees and with all indigenous writers.

    Once the c. $70k prize money is deposited into her account what is to prevent her sharing it thus if she so chooses?

    It is the indigenous way, is it not, Tara?

  108. calli

    Wingfield’s books are better, Nota.

  109. Yes Leigh Lowe, there were but 2 uses for the old tyres. Footy training and release of poisonous gases from leaving the rubber on the road

  110. One would think Roger but don’t expect a divvying up of this prize money

  111. Anyone listen to Ben Fordham? Is it better than his work on an advertisement for Australian Ninja Warrior?

  112. What’s the conservative post record?

  113. Dangerfield in rare form might mean Collingwood will be chasing arse

  114. Roger

    One would think Roger but don’t expect a divvying up of this prize money

    No, I think she should be held to her words, BB.

    As I understand it, there are quite definite rules about such matters amongst indigenous folk.

    At the very least, she has obligations to her kinsfolk.

  115. notafan

    Calli

    I didn’t like the one I tried.

    Main character’s personality was unattractive.

    Maybe I should give another shot.

    I’ve started a more recent Lee Child but he’s got this sort of Bates Hotel thing going and I’m struggling to suspend disbelief.

    Maybe time for another Essie.

  116. Trickler, get in here with a Summernats clip, pronto!

  117. Yes of course she should Roger, but it won’t happen.
    I would be interested in the volume of books sold however. Would it cover 60k or whatever the amount was? Going to guess no.

  118. calli

    Main character’s personality was unattractive

    That’s what I liked. Horrible man.

    Reading a Reacher now. Same basic plot, different location. But good for short attention span times.

  119. johanna

    notafan
    #3515410, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    I’m going to watch A Touch of Frost.

    The heroics of the dumpy little main character get a little tedious.

    The guy has the manners of a goat. He is constantly slurping and loudly chomping, like your unfortunate uncle at Christmas dinner.

    As an actor, he’s a one trick pony. I’ve been watching old British movies, and whenever he crops up, he has the same mannerisms.

    Also, if anyone in the actual police behaved the way he does. including having a desk like a tip and never doing paperwork, he’d be sacked. As he should be.

  120. notafan

    I’d love to see how an African American deals with some of these authentic Aboriginal voices.

    I’m black.

  121. I think Sarah n Tuned’s boyfriend is rolling a G8.
    She’s a hottie, let’s be honest.
    #G8game

  122. kaysee

    UK outlet mocked for describing statement ‘only females get cervical cancer’ as ‘transphobic lie’

    The U.K.-based, LGBT-oriented outlet PinkNews received a wave of mockery Tuesday after claiming that feminists were “transphobic” for claiming that only females are able to get cervical cancer.
     
    PinkNews writer Vic Parsons argued that “anyone with a cervix can get cervical cancer – so people with cervixes should attend regular screenings with their GP [general practitioner].
     
    “This includes trans men, trans masculine people, intersex people and non-binary people, as well as some trans women who have had gender confirmation surgery,” Parsons added.

  123. calli

    I love Mullet too. I’m still looking for his redeeming features.

    💡

    Shiny buttons.

  124. Nota, put the consecrated wine vestibule down, yo!
    🤣
    Never go Joe Biden!

  125. notafan

    I wasn’t after authenticity.

    Otherwise he would be a female minority character scrolling through Twitter accounts looking for mean words about trans and stuff.

  126. JC

    Really, this is the only poll I trust somewhat, even though I don’t really trust polls much. If you adjust for the hidden Trump supporters, he’s likely to be well ahead.

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    Wednesday, July 15, 2020

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll sponsored by Likelihood of Confusion blog for Wednesday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

    The latest figures include 37% who Strongly Approve of the job Trump is doing and 41% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -4. (see trends)

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As I understand it, there are quite definite rules about such matters amongst indigenous folk.

    Albert Namatjira had SIX HUNDRED of his “relatives” “humbugging” him…

  128. notafan

    Vestibule?

    Mines a foyer if you don’t mind.

  129. JC

    Rones, what about Dylan Voller and Bruce Pascoe? You’ve never mentioned these two dudes.

  130. Megan

    Today’s effort was 56 bucks for 15 minutes.

    Try the Osteo mate … mine has been brilliant

    Agreed! Without my regular osteo treatments I’d really struggle. My main problem is chronic and the sessions keep me mobile. He can also quickly deal with any acute issues that seem to crop up regularly as I accumulate more birthday candles.

  131. The U.K.-based, LGBT-oriented outlet PinkNews received a wave of mockery Tuesday after claiming that feminists were “transphobic” for claiming that only females are able to get cervical cancer.

    This is perfect.
    You know how everyone’s wondering about Peak Stupid?
    We’re there. The normies are getting red pilled with the Quickness.
    The freaks on the left have overreached. Natch.
    They are hate-filled, but stupid. Not low energy, though.
    The pendulum is about to swing back.
    They let the mask slip too soon. Another premature victory lap. A trap for young cricketers.
    🤣Sucked in leftists!!

  132. Anon Mahnà

    “Stop it at the short-list,’’ Wollongong-born Winch tells The Australian from her home in southwest France, where she has lived for almost a decade. “They are all winners. Read them all.”

    For an award-winning writer, supposely expert as using words, it seems she may not quite understand the meaning of “winner”, it seems. Why “stop it at the short-list?” That’s rather elitist. Share the prize with all writers who were even nominated for the award: they’d all be winners.

    her home in southwest France, where she has lived for almost a decade

    It seems she may not quite understand the meaning of “indigenous’ also.

  133. JC

    Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, have encouraged Britain to reckon with its colonial past, highlighting the “wrongs” of its historic involvement in the countries that now make up the Commonwealth. https://cnn.it/2W5e5jp

    Let’s take these two geniuses at face value and agree with them that reparations ought to be paid. I wonder if they also support reps for the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 when Britain spitefully ransacked the US? Let’s go the full hog.

  134. JC, electric autos down 6% today?
    Shocker. Elon BTFO
    🤣

  135. Leigh Lowe

    Black Ball
    #3515419, posted on July 16, 2020 at 6:40 pm
    Anyone listen to Ben Fordham? Is it better than his work on an advertisement for Australian Ninja Warrior?

    Weird one that.
    Trying to establish himself as a serious commentator, but gets hooked up in Ninja Warrior?

  136. cohenite

    She thinks indigenous writers should make up 50 per cent of bookstores, 50 per cent of literary festivals, rather than being confined to the “small tents”.

    And a fucking emu on every plate.

  137. kaysee

    Martin Luther King and the religious motivation for social change

    A principal reason why the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s was so successful both morally and practically was that it was led largely by people with a strong religious sensibility. The most notable of these leaders was, of course, Martin Luther King.
     
    Here is King’s own language: “One may well ask: ‘How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?’ The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws.”
     
    To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law.” This is not pious boilerplate; rather, it reveals what gave King’s movement its justification and purpose.

  138. Leigh Lowe

    Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, have encouraged Britain to reckon with its colonial past, highlighting the “wrongs” of its historic involvement in the countries that now make up the Commonwealth. 

    Have they asked the citizens of the former colony of Hong Kong what they would prefer?

  139. MatrixTransform

    lol…fucking emus

  140. JC

    Gunner,

    It’s down 6% in the pre-market. That’s a bunch of krauts, Limeys and Frogs fucking around with 20 shares at a time pretending it’s a market. The real McCoy (the global market) begins at 9.30 am NY time and not a minute before. The rest is just pretend crap. 🙂

  141. Bruce of Newcastle

    Last Monday ABC’s Q&A dedicated an entire show to former Prime Minister Julia Gillard. Ostensibly the program was an occasion for her to reflect on her prime ministership. However, the fact that the words “gender” and “misogyny” were mentioned no fewer than 25 and 11 times gives you an idea as to where this was headed.

    There’s this thing about failed lefty wymminses leaders. Insufferable. We wuz robbed syndrome is strong amongst them.

    Bitter Hillary Claims 2016 Election Was Stolen From Her, Warns Trump Might Not Leave White House if He Loses Election (14 Jul)

    Hillary also whined about losing in 2016 and claimed the election was stolen from her.“…Finally we will see how illegitimate his victory actually was and how he was involved in the seeking of foreign help and then the utilization and how Roger Stone was critical to that,”

    Misogyneeee! All I can say is that Gillard and Hillary are very fortunate that the term “Karen” hadn’t been invented when they were in the political game. Because both of them are triple-distilled obnoxious Karens of the first water.

  142. Tesla @$1500?
    Lol, it’s Tulips all over again though isn’t it??
    When it hit $1k Elon sold everything and he’s renting a cute little 2 bedroom joint last I heard?
    Mad respect for the crazy bastard.

  143. notafan

    50% in the few book shops that are still around?

    And when that doesn’t work and all the book shops in Australia close, compulsory purchase with every online book order.

    Of course they’ll go straight to the school book list list.

    Also what’s wrong with matriarchal lands?

  144. Normies don’t want to be red pilled, Gunner.

    Serfdom was a choice.

  145. kaysee

    This is perfect.
    You know how everyone’s wondering about Peak Stupid?
    We’re there.

    One
     
    Two

  146. MatrixTransform

    Also what’s wrong with matriarchal lands?

    too tidy

  147. Yes, I’m waking at odd hours and checking my meagre portfolio now.
    Crowdstrike is my new Spotify.
    Corona Cruiselines up big yesterday too, for holiday fans.

  148. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, have encouraged Britain to reckon with its colonial past, highlighting the “wrongs” of its historic involvement in the countries that now make up the Commonwealth

    I’m waiting for PH to refuse any further support from his family and renounce all his titles because he’s clearly the beneficiary of British colonialism.

  149. JC

    I reckon I’m owed reparations from the Frogs too come to think of it. Part of my mother’s heritage comes from Nice (some small town there). Nice was part of the Ligurian Republic or whatever it was called then. The Frogs just took as a result of some shady dealings going on and forced an ethnic cleansing of the place. Ma’s great grandparents got turfed. The French government owes me a ton of money.

  150. Normies don’t want to be red pilled

    Hehe – it’s not a choice when it’s forced in your face.
    The plandemic experiment is also boomeranging on them Bigly.
    TzunTzo put it best.

  151. Cardimona

    Gunner, is DPLRBL manual or auto?
    Are you aiming for circle-work, a straight-line burn-out, or just smoking the tyres on the spot?
    Each require differing techniques.

  152. johanna

    Thanks to those who corrected me about the coloured girls (go, woo, hoo hoo etc – Lou Reed) in the Joe Camilleri clips. Looking at them, I thought they were Aboriginal, so discovering that they are Tongans based in Melbourne is a revelation. Apologies for whatever sin that was.

    Or not. Tongans love to sing, and they value doing it well. When I lived in Newtown in the 1980s, there was an Islander service in the church near my house every Sunday afternoon. I used to sit outside and listen to the singing, which was awesome.

    The Protestant missionaries completely changed the culture in places like Tonga. Like it or not, that’s how it is. Lamebrains like those in charge of RU, for all their alleged commitment to ‘diversity’, didn’t have a clue about Islanders and their religious beliefs. They never bothered to understand them, let alone accommodate them.

    Those beliefs are very powerful, and it takes an academic level of stupidity to ignore or punish them.

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    UK outlet mocked for describing statement ‘only females get cervical cancer’ as ‘transphobic lie’

    In a roundabout way that is sort of accurate.

    Potential causal role of human papilloma viruses (HPVs) in prostate cancers (14 Jul)

    Human papilloma viruses (HPVs) – a common group of viruses known to cause cervical cancers—may also have a causal role in prostate cancer, according to a literature review published in the open access journal Infectious Agents and Cancer, supporting the case for universal HPV vaccination.

    James Lawson and Wendy Glenn, at the University of New South Wales, Australia reviewed results from 26 previous studies on HPVs and their links to prostate cancer. They assessed the existing evidence using a common set of nine causal criteria, including the strength and consistency with which HPVs were associated with prostate cancers and whether HPVs were detected in prostate tissues that later went on to develop cancer.

    The authors found that the high risk HPV types 16 and 18, which cause the majority of cervical cancers, have been identified in normal, benign and malignant prostate tissues. In several case control studies, the prevalence of high risk HPV DNA, which indicates the presence of cancer-causing types, was significantly higher in prostate cancers compared to normal and benign prostate controls.

    HPV is turning out to be a real nasty. I would hazard to say it might also be a cause of bladder cancer and even perhaps bowel cancer in some cases. The HPV vaccine may well be as worthwhile for guys as well as gals.

  154. MatrixTransform

    Ligurian

    nice olives

  155. Cardimona

    Easy, Gunner; DPLRPL stationary, clutch in, select first, floor throttle, slip foot sideways off clutch, add steering input as required.

    Or – get rolling in first, back off throttle slightly (to throw weight balance forward), slip clutch momentarily, flooring throttle while clutch slipped.

    Watch for obstacles, cameras, and Mr Plod.

    You might have to vary your technique from the above due to your abundance of power compared to my LC Torana 6-cyl or HT Kingswood V8…

  156. Top Ender

    Greg has spoken! It’s lockdown and border restrictions forever folks!

    If we let up, coronavirus toll will just spiral

    GREG SHERIDAN

    [It’s got everything including scary pictures!]

    Bodies are moved to a refrigeration truck serving as a temporary morgue at a New York hospital in April. Picture: AFP

    We stand at a dangerous crossroads in the fight against COVID-19. The outbreak in Victoria is less our second wave than our first wave of community transmission. Despite its mistakes, the Victorian government’s lockdown actions are sensible and necessary.

    Australia faces a potential health disaster. The next week or two are critical.

    Five weeks ago, Victoria reported zero daily new infections. It has now had 10 days of more than 100 new infections and five of more than 200. The daily figure of 240 could be a peak, or the base camp for further rises. Plus there is the worrying Sydney outbreak.

    One of the areas where the Victorian government has performed poorly is contact tracing. Several hundred new cases a day puts enormous strain on contact tracing. It could become impossible.

    There is silliness by those who deny the seriousness of the coronavirus. Bits of data are cherrypicked, and outlier studies quoted as authoritative. Even outrageous propaganda by some foreign ­governments is cited if it fits the prejudice. So where are we really?

    First, let’s tackle the nonsense of herd immunity. This is the goal of those who think we should try to protect the most vulnerable, practice a few hygiene measures and otherwise let the disease rip in the hope that it will infect and kill enough of us that it will eventually be unable to find new victims and will go away.

    Raina MacIntyre of the University of NSW is one of Australia’s most distinguished epidemi­ologists and has spent her life working on these matters. She says herd immunity is impossible without a vaccine.

    I asked federal Health Minister Greg Hunt about it. He answered and checked back with the best scientific advice. He said, correctly, that no country or territory had achieved herd immunity.

    He added: “Herd immunity is completely unrealistic. First, it would only work if there was a prolonged or permanent immunity. And that’s not certain. Even so, you would need 60 per cent of Australians (15 million) infected. If the fatality rate of those infected is 1 per cent, that’s 150,000 deaths (to achieve herd immunity). If the fatality rate of those infected is 1.5 per cent, that’s 225,000 deaths. That strategy doesn’t survive first contact with reality.”

    Hunt says the death rate from COVID-19 in developed countries with excellent health systems is about 1 per cent of those infected. Australia with 111 deaths and more than 10,000 infections is a little over that, more or less what the evidence internationally suggests.

    MacIntyre says herd immunity was a concept developed in the context of vaccination. There are very few diseases where herd immunity can be achieved naturally. Had it been naturally achievable there would have been no need for smallpox vaccinations.

    The herd immunity for a disease varies according to its reinfection rate — how many people each infected person will go on to infect. There are fairly precise mathematical formulas that predict when herd immunity cuts in.

    MacIntyre agrees with Hunt that to achieve herd immunity would require more than 60 per cent of us to be infected.

    She says: “Even at 5 per cent, the whole society collapses, the hospitals are full and overflowing, trucks are lining up to collect the bodies, ice rinks are converted into morgues.”

    The bottom line is that there is absolutely no reason why our cities could not end up replicating the worst experiences of US cities. The only reason we won’t do that is ­because of the strong actions that we have taken and are taking.

    Here is where the debate between economics and health can become a bit surreal. Certainly, governments must balance how much to shut down and when and how often, and the health benefits this brings — that is to say, fewer dead people — against the costs. But be under no illusions. If Australia came near 10 per cent of the population with active infections, say 2.6 million infections and 26,000 deaths, we would be screaming for the strongest possible government action.

    MacIntyre thinks parts of the debate have been so unrealistic ­because so few Australians have been affected by the tragedy.

    She is also clear that the research indicates that immunity in any event will not be permanent. Both Hunt and MacIntyre are ­optimistic about getting a vaccine. Hunt warns it likely won’t give permanent immunity. MacIntyre is even stronger on that point. The history of coronaviruses is people get them over and over again after immunity wears off. Even when antibodies are gone, there is some memory in T-cells in the blood and this might be of modest help, but there is no indication this gives or could give lifelong immunity.

    Any vaccine will likely resemble a flu vaccine. It substantially cuts down your chances of an infection and it reduces the ­severity of it if you are infected. It doesn’t give you 100 per cent protection in the short term nor protection in the longer term. You generally need the jab each year.

    Whether we had been pursuing eradication or suppression would have made no difference to the Victorian outbreak because it came mainly from mismanaged quarantine hotels.

    And we are going to need quarantine hotels at least until we see a vaccine. Even after a vaccine, we probably cannot allow large numbers of international travellers to come unless they have credible, recent vaccination certificates. And without a vaccine, we cannot allow anyone to come unless they quarantine for two weeks.

    Assuming immunity is short term, there is every chance that once a society gets through the virus it is susceptible again shortly later. Coronaviruses are much more stable than flu viruses, although, even without a vaccine, treatments that reduce the death rate are improving.

    But still about 20 per cent of those infected need hospitalisation or they will likely die. Hundreds of health workers have died across the world (and that doesn’t happen even in bad a flu season). If we don’t get it right, the worst is ahead of us. And if we do get it right, life will still be very different for a very long time.

    GREG SHERIDAN
    FOREIGN EDITOR

  157. JC

    Gunner

    There is surf in the med. I saw some in Sardinia. It’s great to swim in the Med though as the water is really freaking salty. When you dry up you feel like a dry salted cod. It feels good. 🙂

  158. egg_

    “it doesn’t matter if its a big red car or a little red car or Kawasiki 500 triple … your’e going places”

    I guess to a road train driver, they’re ALL “little red cars”?

  159. Yeah, I swam every day in the Cinque Terre.
    It was pretty Bond.
    I loved it.

  160. Knuckle Dragger

    Liam Jurrah, former Demon lost the lot for his ‘culture’ of handing every cent you earned to rellos you’ve never seen before and have done bugger all except the usual. Genuine talent, a showstopper.

    But no. Was drawn by to one of the Hatfield/McCoy feuds in Yuendumu by ‘family’. Ended up living in Charles Creek Camp in Alice when he wasn’t in jail, but someone (can’t remember who, apologies) reckons he was back having a kick in the local league.

    Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti from Essendon is a slightly smaller and more talented version of Micky Conlan from Fitzroy. His family didn’t give a flying fuck about him on the Tiwis, and in his teens he was adopted by the people he now calls his parents, lived in Melbourne and kaboom.

    Of course, when he hit the big screens all his indig family put their heads up like meerkats at dusk, playing the ‘family, and bring your wallet’ tune.

    In one of the great moments of this century to date, he told them to go fuck themselves.

  161. MatrixTransform

    memories of driving down to the Pitt Lands at like 150kmh.

    …passed at speed by some serious road trains

  162. Zyconoclast

    johanna
    #3515301, posted on July 16, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    Local government and Sustainable Development Goals – an untapped opportunity

    The UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) set out a groundbreaking framework of 17 transformational goals to tackle our social, economic, and environmental challenges. Local government not only has a role to play when it comes to the achievement and delivery of the SDGs, it also has opportunities to reap.
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  163. egg_

    Better get out the duct tape and cable ties

  164. kaysee

    dover_beach
    #3514889, posted on July 16, 2020 at 11:28 am

    This clip with Alan Keyes on gay marriage is masterful:

    In 2004, Hillary Clinton speaks of marriage as between a man and a woman. As public opinion shifted, so did her definition of marriage.
     
    In 2004, and again in 2008, Barack Obama said marriage was between a man and woman.
     

  165. Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti from Essendon

    If I say I have ultimate respect for this young man, am I still a paid up, AltRight racist?

  166. Bar Beach Swimmer

    BoN and bespoke, Egg and everyone else who gave me some advice on a laptop…

    https://youtu.be/09wON6jwJ2o

    as per all your specifications, I purchased a Envy HP 13″ with intel core i5 10th gen; really happy with it!

  167. Steve trickler

    Here you go Gunner.

    I reckon LL would love to ride in this Datsun.



  168. Nick

    Of course, when he hit the big screens all his indig family put their heads up like meerkats at dusk, playing the ‘family, and bring your wallet’ tune.

    Lol . So true

  169. Surf shops in Sardinia?
    Oh yes, sounds like an interesting trip…
    I’m going on a trip somewhere interesting once the airlines fire up.
    Travel is gonna go crazy after 201 is passed us. If ever?
    CCL, ftw

  170. Dark haired babes and gangs of wigs…
    Yeah, I’ll be right 😎

  171. Knuckle Dragger

    Teh webs inform me that there is now a statue of a BLM protestor on the plinth of Edward Whatsisname, the bloke who got turfed into the river in Bristol. It’s a chick, naturally.

    A matter of time before the inevitable happens.

  172. Lol, wigs is not allowed.
    Fkn Gippos ruining everything

  173. MatrixTransform

    did I tell the story of my Old Dad and the Kwaka 500?

    blowing the cobwebs out before lending it to a mate

    lost the front tyre on the bend in front of our house
    both bones in one forearm
    collar bone and shoulder blade on the other
    head (helmet-less) ended up between a forked gumtree.

    he was plastered and strutted

    …the noises he made in the dunny trying to wipe his arse are some of the funniest memories I have of the late 70’s

    his mate survived of course because the bike was totaled and he never got to ride it

  174. Struth

    I watched a bit of it. You misunderstand my point. Networkers gonna network. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just what they do.

    Mafia people network.
    White collar business criminals network.
    Hitler Networked with the Japs and the Ities.
    MI6 network.
    These people are networking?
    They have an aim that is to gain authority and control by undermining our sovereignty in criminal fashion by working against the authority of the elected , which is basically the authority of the people who elect them.
    To smash the nation states they target, to smash their democracy and ability to make their own decisions because these fucking wanker public servants have too high an opinion of themselves and when arrogance and ignorance combine in the one human, enabled by insulation from the real world, it may be bad enough, but when those same fucksticks unite at meetings to plan their agenda to enact the above, it’s more than networking.
    It’s a circle jerk of tax payer funded, Gates funded, Soros funded arse wipes committing treason against their nations.
    They are doing worse than that because they are killing the economies and people (not from covid, but by swinging in their sheds, and through sicknesses they can’t get in empty hospitals to be cured).
    The deaths caused by these people still to come may end in the millions from disease, starvation, tyranny, all caused by that little table and other globalists from Gates to Soros, Fauci, the Clintons, Guterres, …the devos mob and the Chinese .

    But hey, people gotta network.
    Both Notafan and Johanna show us (and these are the good ones) that women take our civilisation for granted and that we’re all going to return to white picket fence capitalist western freedom, peace and prosperity as it seems they believe it’s the natural order of things.

    But hey, I’m sure you knew all about what that bitch and others are up to when they covered the whole thing on the ABC.

  175. YouTube is not cloud storage.

    If you have uploaded stuff and value it, check out Dave’s guide of auto-copying stuff to other alternatives.

    Looking at you, Arky and Tailgunner!

  176. Yes,Knuckles. She’s got a cool weave though? Sister got some narcissistic issues.
    And yet, they’re not beaten in the street.
    England is done.

  177. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Of course, when he hit the big screens all his indig family put their heads up like meerkats at dusk, playing the ‘family, and bring your wallet’ tune.

    Lol . So true

    I’ve heard the practice described as “Tribal law. Tribal bullshit, more like.”

  178. johanna

    Notafan, get into the Rebus novels, in order.

    Ian Rankin is a very good writer.

  179. Cardimona

    Kawasaki 500 triples were just too hard to get around corners.

    Yamaha RD350LCs ate them for breakfast.

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Steve trickler

    #3515488, posted on July 16, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Here you go Gunner.

    I reckon LL would love to ride in this Datsun.

    I’d have to wear a Covid mask and keep it on the downlow.
    I’d hate the Merc dealer to see me in that.

  181. Gunner

    The ultimate red pill is that other people, in the majority, don’t want it.

    Cypher was a character for a reason.

  182. notafan

    Read already thanks Jo and enjoyed.

    Binge read actually. 🙂

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    Pies v Cats shortly in Perth.

    If there is still a force for good and right in this world, Patrick Dangerfield will have three ribs and a pelvis smashed by Maynard five minutes in.

    Not because he’s a yuuuge talent that can blow a team off the park, but because he’s a whiny, overly coiffed ponce. In better times he’d be referred to as a dandy.

  184. Not because he’s a yuuuge talent that can blow a team off the park, but because he’s a whiny, overly coiffed ponce. In better times he’d be referred to as a dandy.

    Barrels full of phrasing. Enough to support a dwelling in Snowtown, SA.

  185. Bruce of Newcastle

    While I remember the first atomic bomb went off 75 years ago, at 9:29 pm AEST our time.
    Just finished reading 5 days in August this evening, which is fitting.

  186. johanna

    Both Notafan and Johanna show us (and these are the good ones) that women take our civilisation for granted and that we’re all going to return to white picket fence capitalist western freedom, peace and prosperity as it seems they believe it’s the natural order of things.

    Struth, stop being a jerk for a moment, and people might listen to you.

    I have no idea where you got your version of what notafan and I ‘show us.’ You are delusional.

  187. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From calli at 5:45 pm:

    “Another poor soul completely disadvantaged by her racial background. I feel so sad about her tough life.”

    The link says:

    “Winch is the fourth Indigenous Australian author to win the prize, following last year’s winner Melissa Lucashenko (for Too Much Lip), Kim Scott (who shared the prize in 2000 for Benang and won again in 2011 with That Deadman Dance) and Alexis Wright (for Carpentaria, 2007).

    Speaking to the ABC from France, where she has lived since 2011, the author said …”

    That’s some remarkable giving-back-to-her-struggling-countrymen stuff right there.

    I had a look and found that all four have something in common with Adam Goodesook, in a Scottishiginal / only 50% of their life matters sense. The other 50% of their being is rooted in a background of privilege and systemic, organic, structural, binary, problematic unacceptability and inappropriateness and does not matter.

    They all badly need to colour up a lot, like sTan Grant, a proud ABC elder who has recently proved to be something of a chameleon.

    Our Tara is about as exotically colorfulness as Paris Hilton or Sara Single or Delta Goodrem.

  188. Quick question from a low brow Neanderthal.

    Is the Singapore Grip TV series from the BBC being marketed as a show about a Chinese woman’s pussy?

    Sounds like *Aroo Being Serbed?*

    Anyway, that’s rather blase in these woke times.

    Or may we say, blaise moi.

  189. MatrixTransform

    You are delusional.

    and just like that … all was right in the world again

  190. Excellent post Knuckle Dragger on Liam Jurrah and McDonald Tipingwuti.
    Jurrah was a human highlight reel but the pressures of not only football at the highest level, the family pressures ground him to dust.
    Had the great privilege of meeting the Essendon bloke. He pulled into work on his way camping with his adopted mother before the coronavirus lockdown was in full effect. Articulate, engaging and was more than happy to have photos taken with other punters. A class act.

  191. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just finished reading 5 days in August this evening, which is fitting.

    My memory fails me – was it “5 Days in August” which cited the Japanese as complaining to the Vatican that the use of the atomic bomb constituted a war crime?

  192. mh

    Looks like another night of throbbing engines, giant excavators with huge extensions, vehicles with amazing thrust, machines that can smash open very tight spaces, pounding, hammering, faster, harder, unstoppable….

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti from Essendon is a slightly smaller and more talented version of Micky Conlan from Fitzroy. His family didn’t give a flying fuck about him on the Tiwis, and in his teens he was adopted by the people he now calls his parents, lived in Melbourne and kaboom.

    Of course, when he hit the big screens all his indig family put their heads up like meerkats at dusk, playing the ‘family, and bring your wallet’ tune.

    In one of the great moments of this century to date, he told them to go fuck themselves.

    At which point he probably copped a “fkn coconut” spray.
    Worth noting that he probably wouldn’t have played AFL except for coming in as a top-up player during the “Vitamins Scandal”.

  194. Boambee John

    And we are going to need quarantine hotels at least until we see a vaccine. Even after a vaccine, we probably cannot allow large numbers of international travellers to come unless they have credible, recent vaccination certificates. And without a vaccine, we cannot allow anyone to come unless they quarantine for two weeks.

    Has Greg Sheridan really thought about what he writes?

    The effective end of international travel for all who cannot afford (in either dollars or time) a two week quarantine period? No further significant immigration (costs of quarantine), no international students (ditto)? Sounds like the North Korean solution!

  195. MatrixTransform

    Whoar! yes, yes yes

  196. Steve trickler

    [email protected]:40.

    Consider this ride…🤣



  197. Leigh Lowe

    Had the great privilege of meeting the Essendon bloke. He pulled into work on his way camping with his adopted mother before the coronavirus lockdown was in full effect. Articulate, engaging and was more than happy to have photos taken with other punters. A class act.

    The trouble is he can be a bit too nice.
    Twice last week he got in on the fly clear inside 50, but passed it off instead of having a shot.
    Would of eaten both of them himself.

  198. Tel

    We have a growing Marxist movement trying to subvert Western nations, and the more important issue is hand wringing over Super.

  199. Nick

    Would of eaten both of them himself.

    Being a stocky little unit, I don’t doubt it 🙂

  200. Zyconoclast

    Martin Luther King and the religious motivation for social change

    A principal reason why the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s was so successful both morally and practically was that it was led largely by people with a strong religious sensibility. The most notable of these leaders was, of course, Martin Luther King.

    MLK is a fraud.
    He plagiarised his PhD thesis.
    Plagiarised his I have a dream speech
    While married, was involved in all sorts of sexual activity including homosexual orgies and sexual assault.
    Was not an actual Christian.
    And to top it off he was a communist.

  201. Geriatric Mayfly

    If we go into Lockdown Phase No.94 I was going to start on Gibbon. But here is a selection, up to date, from our own backyard and will prove much richer for its 40, 60, 80 thousand year old roots.

    Winch, who is Wiradjuri, is the fourth indigenous writer to win the Miles Franklin, which was first awarded in 1957, to Patrick White for Voss. The other indigenous recipients are Lucashenko, dual winner Kim Scott (in 2000 and 2011) and Alexis Wright (2007).The other short-listed writers, who each receive $5000, were indigenous author Tony Birch (The White Girl), Carrie Tiffany (Exploded View), Peggy Frew (Islands), Philip Salom (The Returns) and John Hughes (No One).

  202. Tim Neilson

    In one of the great moments of this century to date, he told them to go fuck themselves.

    I love a story with a happy ending.

  203. Leigh Lowe

    If there is still a force for good and right in this world, Patrick Dangerfield will have three ribs and a pelvis smashed by Maynard five minutes in.

    Fvcking(tm) sook.
    Keeps whingeing about Kung Flu modified rules with suggested changes which would suit one P Dangerfield.
    Remember he had a cheap shot at Peter Dutton on Twatter at the start of Kung Flu.
    The tweet disappeared without trace in two hours.
    I suspect Gillon McPolo-Pony told him in no uncertain terms that the AFL might have to beg to Canberra sometime soon so best not give Dutton the shits.

  204. egg_

    lost the front tyre on the bend in front of our house
    both bones in one forearm
    collar bone and shoulder blade on the other
    head (helmet-less) ended up between a forked gumtree.

    Hit an oil spot in the wet and the front end went out before I even had the clutch released on the downshift round a nice 90 degree left hand curve at the bottom of my own street.

    You usually lose a lever, snapped off in the process.

  205. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Just watching Bolt. He’s got John Roskam on. They’re talking about the best pieces of Australian culture, art, literature and poetry. Roskam notes the poems of Henry Lawson and cites Arthur Streeton, Voss, The Castle, and Strictly Ballroom.

    Bolt then quotes The Man from Snowy River.

    ‘…and he sees the vision splendid,
    of the sunlight plains extended,
    and at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars’

    and then went on to play a part of Slim Dusty singing ‘When the rain tumbles down in July

  206. Cardimona

    Today’s letters submission to 8 newspapers won’t get a run anywhere…

    The Editor

    The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners has reported that normal seasonal flu has dropped by 99%. Why? Partly because of extra handwashing and reduced social interactions, but mostly because we closed the border to China – the main incubator of zoological disease.

    In a normal year we’d be up to 786 flu deaths by now, but despite pseudo-lockdowns where we all still went shopping, we have just 111 flu deaths – all from the demographic most likely to die of flu.

    Now that governments have wielded supra-legal authority to force lockdowns, does anyone think it won’t happen again? Ask Victorians enduring a second unwarranted and unlawful lockdown.

    Until we rein in political parties misusing the powers of government there is zero chance of economic recovery. Why would anyone risk money starting a business when governments can destroy it at a whim to extend the lives of ninety-year-olds by a few months?

    Our governments have become our enemies. I’ll accept advice on avoiding flu from these misinformed fools, but I will NOT be dictated to as to how I can live my life.

    You think “enemies” is too strong? Explain why the Queensland government legislated for $13,000 fines for doctors for prescribing hydroxychloroquine, a well-tested, multi-use, off-patent drug that, combined with azithromycin and vitamins C and D, effectively treats COVID-19.

    What’s the solution in a two-party system where both sides drink from the same fountain of stupidity? Vote for the most pro-business, anti-globalist independent on the ticket and kick the career politicians to the gutter. They’re now little more than ticks on a dying economy.

    (265 words)

  207. MatrixTransform

    Cardi, you rock!

  208. egg_

    A mate had an RD350LC and we used to commute to college – round the Gladesville Bridge underpass curve, signposted at 80 km/h – we’d do 100 km/h minimum – there was a tight kink right in the middle of the curve and my Z1000J1 with air shocks would run out of tyre sidewall at the same point as the “little blue and white bike”, but had far more grunt, as Eddie Lawson could no doubt atest.

  209. Knuckle Dragger

    Second Test. Poms v Windies.

    Progress score: Of course.

    As in, of course it’s fucking raining.

  210. Knuckle Dragger

    To the shops. Maybe the pub next door for an hour.

    Keno owes me.

  211. Steve trickler

    Some background music.



  212. egg_

    Looks like another night of throbbing engines, giant excavators with huge extensions, vehicles with amazing thrust, machines that can smash open very tight spaces, pounding, hammering, faster, harder, unstoppable….

    Great!

    Where’s Rex and RickW?

  213. Bolt then quotes The Man from Snowy River.

    ‘…and he sees the vision splendid,
    of the sunlight plains extended,
    and at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars’

    Bolt seriously believes that to be from “The Man from Snowy River”?

  214. BrettW

    So Indigenous who make up 3% of the population should make up 50% of bookstores and literary festivals.

    I guess it does not matter if the buying public might find that a bit too much.

    “She thinks indigenous writers should make up 50 per cent of bookstores, 50 per cent of literary festivals, rather than being confined to the “small tents”.

  215. Cardimona

    A mate had an RD350LC

    Egg, at one point five of us had RD350LCs.
    Sounded like a pack of angry wasps zipping by.

  216. kaysee

    MLK is a fraud.
    He plagiarised his PhD thesis.
    Plagiarised his I have a dream speech………..

    How to Make Sense of the Shocking New MLK Documents

    What do you do when a great hero is alleged to have done something awful?
     
    Even if the ugliest charges against King are bolstered by additional evidence, that doesn’t mean we should talk about renaming Martin Luther King Day, tearing down statues of him, or stripping him of his Nobel Prize. In recent years, we’ve had altogether too much wrecking-ball history—history that takes public or private flaws or failings as reason to cast extraordinary men and women out of our political or artistic pantheons. Historians know that even the most admirable figures from our past were flawed, mortal beings—bad parents or bad spouses, capable of violence or cruelty, beholden to sexist or racist ideas, venal or megalomaniac, dishonest or predatory. Awareness of these qualities doesn’t mean despising figures once held up as heroes. Rather, it gives us a more complete and nuanced picture of the people who shaped our world.
     
    “It was Mr. King whose quest for black economic and social progress started this nation on the road to full integration—the most dynamic step forward in the status of the races since the Civil War. His courage in breaking down racial taboos and facing down opponents of integration, his unwavering insistence on a peaceful revolution, the elevating power of his message to the nation are beyond question.” So opined the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal in 1990, days after the same paper brought King’s plagiarism to light. “We suspect Mr. King’s reputation will outlast the questions now being raised,” it concluded. That judgment—from a leading conservative opinion outlet of the day—seems far more sensible than the troll-like schadenfreude peppering right-wing media in the last few days. They are words we should bear in mind again today.

  217. Cardimona

    What I liked about my Kawasaki GPZ750 was that I could smoke the back tyre and lift the front wheel at the same time.

  218. egg_

    at one point five of us had RD350LCs.

    My bro’s last bike was an RG500 and I had a spin – had to get used to the lack of bottom end, but it felt nice and light.

  219. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “She thinks indigenous writers should make up 50 per cent of bookstores, 50 per cent of literary festivals, rather than being confined to the “small tents”.

    Has lived in the South of France for ten years, married to a French national, dictating to this country..

  220. rickw

    White peoples are animals!!

  221. egg_

    my Z1000J1 with air shocks would run out of tyre sidewall at the same point as the “little blue and white bike”

    They’d do a “wiggle” at the same point of loss of traction, just like you see on TV, so you’d see the bike ahead hit it just before yourself.

  222. cohenite

    But here is a selection, up to date, from our own backyard and will prove much richer for its 40, 60, 80 thousand year old roots.

    Winch, who is Wiradjuri, is the fourth indigenous writer to win the Miles Franklin,

    You can see every millennia of the 1 million years of 3rd nations history etched in her delicate yet strong face, every line reflecting a milestone in the interaction of the 3rd nations with nature culminating in their exalted position before the white interlopers came and stole their mojo.

  223. Rex Anger

    Where’s Rex and RickW?

    Which Rex?

    If it’s not steam-powered, or early-gen EMD, or Alco or English Electric, I want nuffin’ of it!

    (RR Merlins or P&W Radials is OK, though…)

  224. Rick

    Thanks for also answering my question.

  225. mc

    Bolt seriously believes that to be from “The Man from Snowy River”?

    You mean that Sigrid Thortan movie from the 80s?

  226. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I’ve relocated to the West as a result of the further delay in opening the borders and am in SIO.

    There were only about 25 people on my flight from Sydney to Perth. One of the young flight attendants told me that everyone of the staff on the plane was on Job Keeper and that her partner, a chef, was in the same situation.

    When I arrived at Perth Airport the W.A. police wanted to know how long I’d be staying, like it was an imposition to have me here – no wisecracks ITK – to which I replied that, with respect, I’d rather be at home, as would the other half.

    Today, I heard that PonyGirl said that, as a result of the Victorian situation, the border may be down until December – I may have to change the BBS.

  227. Bar Beach Swimmer

    mc, that may have been me…I can’t remember; I think he referred both. I’ll blame jetlag.

  228. egg_

    as per all your specifications, I purchased a Envy HP 13″ with intel core i5 10th gen; really happy with it!

    Congrats!

  229. egg_

    English Electric,

    How an EE DEMU “Thumper”?

  230. twostix

    There is silliness by those who deny the seriousness of the coronavirus. Bits of data are cherrypicked, and outlier studies quoted as authoritative. Even outrageous propaganda by some foreign ­governments is cited if it fits the prejudice. So where are we really?

    First, let’s tackle the nonsense of herd immunity. This is the goal of those who think we should try to protect the most vulnerable, practice a few hygiene measures and otherwise let the disease rip in the hope that it will infect and kill enough of us that it will eventually be unable to find new victims and will go away.

    whoa, check out this heavy hitter!

    No childish hyperbole in there at all.

    As their world collapses, as voters vote against them and people stop reading their stupid newspaper columns, these people are going to take us all down with them, you know.

  231. Bolt seriously believes that to be from “The Man from Snowy River”?

    You mean that Sigrid Thortan movie from the 80s?

    There’s another “The Man from Snowy River”?

  232. twostix

    We’re in a bad state when it’s politicians who are having to tell the media to put the brakes on.

  233. egg_

    What I liked about my Kawasaki GPZ750 was that I could smoke the back tyre and lift the front wheel at the same time.

    Yeah I liked the GPZ’s faring, put a “bikini” faring on mine, mainly for long distance rider comfort.

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