Duda Wins But Swords Are Still Drawn For Civilisation

THE victory of Law and Justice Party incumbent Andrzej Duda in Poland’s presidential election on Sunday was the best news of the month and, politically, the best news of the year (so far). There is no country and no culture in the world today that the extremist left is so eager to overwhelm, ideologically and spiritually, as Poland. Not even America tantalises them more. The great survivor of the twin monsters of Nazism and communism, cradle of Pope John Paul II – sainted scourge of moral relativism – and defiant still against the encroachments of the Anglophone world’s post-Christian barbarism, it is a beacon for the faithful and secularist conservatives alike. But how long can it stand? Yes, President Duda won but only just: his majority was 51.2 percent. His opponent, Warsaw mayor Rafal Trzaskowski, was the preferred candidate of Brussels and the far left parties of Germany and Slovakia, all of which see Duda’s agenda – especially “controversial” reforms of the judiciary and continued opposition to aborton on demand – as “far right.” The President’s dismissal of gay “rights” during the campaign as a foreign “ideology” more destructive than communism enraged all of the usual Yankee wannabes – not least because it resonated with a majority of Poles as undeniable.

There was a time – from the mid-fifth century – when Ireland is said to have salvaged the patrimony of the ancient world, even as the Germanic hordes laid waste to its written treasures as quickly as St Patrick’s monks transcribed and shelved them for posterity. For many Christians – Orange or Green – Ireland continued to be both hold-out and cultural archive for how a Western country should constitute itself until very recently. It took about 1500 years for the barbarians to sack it as they once sacked Rome. True, sackings now are gentler affairs but that’s only because there are so few loyalists on the watchtowers. The Apostle of Ireland’s episcopal descendants played a treacherous role from the inside, of course. This week’s news from Second Rome of the Hagia Sophia’s re-conversion to a mosque is a horrible reminder from 1453 that venality and pride – or “filth,” to use Pope Benedict XVI’s word for church corruption – are termites in the buttresses of a Christian society. Strangely, for the West’s remaining Spartans Poland in the East is now the inspiration that Ireland used to be. So Andrzej Duda’s re-election is a big deal.

The first thing the President did after claiming victory was visit Jasna Góra Monastery in Częstochowa, home to Poland’s most revered icon. To Poles, the Black Madonna is more than an ancient art-work or mere symbol of national survival. Under this title, Mary was crowned Queen and Protectress of Poland in the 1600s; by then the wax tempera image was already centuries old and beloved. The scars on the Madonna’s cheek are slash marks inflicted by a swordsman during the failed Hussite siege of Częstochowa in 1430. The Hussites were puritanical extremists who policed their own number and those they sought to dominate with a dogmatic zeal very much akin to today’s cancel culture. As this comparable act of vandalism in Boston last week demonstrates, the siege goes on. Donald Trump, who made his own symbolic visitation to a Polish icon in June, has welcomed news of President Duda’s triumph. Militancy loves company as much as misery.

I’ve argued that Poland is more crucial for civilisation than America; that is a judgment based not on what the US is capable of but on how far gone I now consider it to be. A Duda-esque re-election for President Trump in November will be a devastating blow to the burners and the slashers but without a culturally all-encompassing repudiation of their enablers – I mean a years-long extermination of their lies – it won’t matter as much as it should. Ominously, Thomas Sowell told Mark Levin this week that if Joe Biden and his terrorist backers win the presidency this year, it will be “the point of no return” for his country. If history teaches us anything – from the disintegration of the Roman Empire to the fall of Constantinople and the destruction of Christian Ireland – it’s this: the possibility of civilisational collapse is real and its onset will be sudden.

This entry was posted in History, International, Western Civilsation. Bookmark the permalink.

41 Responses to Duda Wins But Swords Are Still Drawn For Civilisation

  1. Isn’t Hungary also one of the Left’s hated nation states?

  2. Entropy

    Good old currency lad implying Ireland is like Poland.

  3. Infidel Tiger King

    Good old currency lad implying Ireland is like Poland.

    It once was. Ireland is now a warning to the rest of the world of the ills that liberalism will bring.

    The left are determined to destroy Poland, Hungary and the the US.

  4. Tom

    Thanks, CL. Your posts always tell me stuff I don’t know. Thanks also to his Doomlordship for giving you carte blanche — one of his best decisions as you are by far the Cat’s best writer.

  5. Graham

    Tom has hit the nail on the head. Currency Lad is the foremost gem of this site.

  6. Petros

    Our next Jan Sobieski perhaps?

  7. Professor Fred Lenin

    Poland and Hungary ,two fine peoples and bulwarks of European Culture ,the ones who will get rid of the unelected EU aparat ,fiercly patriotic and anti globalist ,more power to them .

  8. Judge Dredd

    Great post. The collapse of western civilization is happening now. Like in Roman times, the collapse starts from within, and then the Barbarian hordes just finish it off. However the seeds of the next civilization have already started, Christianity will continue strong, even though the devil will continue to whisper in people’s ear to persecute us.

  9. Richard Bender

    Currencylad supporting an authoritarian fascist president. In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning and Catallaxy continues its long, sad descent. Please, just fuck off to Breitbart and stop polluting this site with your shit.

  10. Fat Tony

    Dick Bender – what an apt name…..

  11. How is Dude-A (a Radiohead fan, no?) an *authoritarian fascist* (PS, is there any other kind of fascist?).

  12. Lee

    Follow your own advice, RB, instead of taking a contrarian stance and picking a fight with the bloggers every single time you come here.
    Perhaps a left wing site would be more appropriate for you.

  13. EllenG

    Catholicism is perfidious. Bends minds and corrupts small children.

  14. Mak Siccar

    Tom
    #3514087, posted on July 15, 2020 at 5:26 pm
    Thanks, CL. Your posts always tell me stuff I don’t know. Thanks also to his Doomlordship for giving you carte blanche — one of his best decisions as you are by far the Cat’s best writer.

    Hear, hear, hear.

  15. Louis Litt

    EllenG – Catholicism is the answer- maintenance of civilised standards which progress society and allow people with minimum inter fear acne.
    It does not bends minds but challenges you to think and choose your values. Mind bending is Marxism based on envy hatred indolence and violence.
    One thing I have noticed in the workforce is if you head a catholic education you don’t stand there and say how do I do that.
    Finally when do leftists oppose sex with minors. Gough Don Dunstan, the ABC and the entertainment industry are ravenous for it.
    “ Intergenerational Sex” is what lefties call it. Go into the cesspit of a student union and check out what’s postered on the walls.
    Since the pill and high living standards, social capital being the thing sex has dominated our minds that jobs are effeminate and of little utility or masculine- have a look what we did to manufacturing and our attitude to it – just like our attitudes to trades soldiers etc.

  16. Nob

    EllenG
    #3514271, posted on July 15, 2020 at 7:34 pm
    Catholicism is perfidious. Bends minds and corrupts small children.

    The bog standard Catholic education I got emphasised doubt as well as belief, and introduced us to philosophy via lives of the saints and theologians.

    A dimension I noticed is almost totally absent in secular education today.

    The upshot of all that doubt and soul-searching is that, like so many, I became an atheist before I had left my teens. Unlike so many, I’m not particularly bitter about Catholicism.

    I was horrified as anyone else when all the revelations about child abuse in that period when I went to school came out. Our schools were only day schools and I never served as an altar boy so maybe I was naive, but nothing happened to me and I didn’t hear any rumours. So far none of the reports (and I have scoured looking for evidence) have implicated either the primary or secondary schools I went to. Whereas I heard plenty about certain teachers at the local state high school and of course everyone knew about the Scouts.

  17. Adelaidean

    ITK, CL

    Ireland was once grand. Then the Reformers got to it. The Oxford Movement rose in opposition (somewhat oddly, given its tendency toward popery, while the Irish church tended to be evangelical), but too late. And then disestablishment. It’s been downhill ever since.

  18. hzhousewife

    the possibility of civilisational collapse is real and its onset will be sudden.

    May apply very soon to the Solomons, the Maldives, even Fiji. Bit close to home really.

  19. dover_beach

    Great post, CL, and beautiful icon. Duda is a wonderful President and is annoying all the right people. Of course, you’re right about Poland and Ireland. The Left put out all stops to redefine marriage and establish the abortion license in Ireland precisely because it was an avowedly Catholic country before and after independence, particularly after, because its Catholic identity now weaved itself into the political order. They would dearly love to repeat this abomination in Poland. Nothing irks them more than the example Duda in Poland and Orban in Hungary provide to other polities in Europe and around the world. They must be destroyed if for no other reason to demoralize all opposition to globalism and liberalism.

  20. Ellen G – you disgusting maggot – orthodox Christianity *Catholicism* has the safest institutions of all for children outside the immediate family.

    Better than other religions, private organisations and the government – or the rock spiders of the ALP.

    This is an objective fact and if you don’t like it, eat shit.

    The fact that you think the creator of the European university “bends minds” speaks to what an ignorant pettifogging fool that you are.

  21. Entropy

    Apart from that you have a lot of time for Ellen, right, Sedition?

    Step away from the keyboard for a while before coming back in a cooler frame of mind, would be my recommendation.

  22. No, look at the facts objectively.

    If Ellen wants to spread this filth, she can get called what she deserves.

    Maybe *you* can give yourself a WEB too, champ.

  23. cuckoo

    A big part of Duda’s base is older, rural, traditional Catholic. They are old enough to remember WW2 and the misery of life under the Soviets. Heck, they even remember wars against the muslim turks like it was yesterday. They are intensely nationalist and they are dying out. The newer generation is young, urban, cosmopolitan in outlook. They love ‘Europe’ and the pretty blue flag with the golden stars. How can you not like golden stars?

  24. Chris M

    the possibility of civilisational collapse is real and its onset will be sudden.

    The Reality of the return of Christ will be sudden. We can tweak the controls but ultimately this ship of fools is going down so not to stress overly. Mankind is doomed by our sinful nature, the more knowledge grows the more evil advances.

    Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he comes with the clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they which have pierced him, and all the tribes of the land shall wail because of him.”

  25. Iampeter

    Dude is a social conservative, in other words he is a religious leftist and wants to regulate every aspect of peoples lives via the state.

    Far from fighting the “extremist left,” or something, conservatives have once again demonstrated that they still haven’t figured out that they are also on the left.

  26. Rex Anger

    Really Petey? That is the best trolling you have?

    Derrr, DuDaZ iZ Left0st, leik dUh Rezt of y00z. Herp Derp Pseudocommunism.

    REAL individualists and capitalists welcome the sanity of Eastern Europe’s ex-Soviet satellites (Still salty about 1989, tovarisch?) and look to them with hope.

    You want state control by theocrats, IamTheMullahs, move to Tehran or Mecca. You want your preferred atheistic dictatorship, I believe one-way flights into Pyonyang or Beijing can be arranged.

    Leave Eastern Europe and its resurgent liberty to us nasty theist conservativists who blight this rightwing blog with ‘leftwing’ thinking.

  27. Rex Anger

    Final thought, IamGodandNobodycnTellMeOtherwise:

    Liberty, freedom, human rights and separation of Church and State were all devised by Christian thinkers, inspired by the nature of the God they worshipped. Your rationalists, humanists and objectivists all turned up far later and clumsily claimed to take the credit.

    If they see far, it is only because they stand on the shoulders of theistic giants.

    Now go away and sulk, IamGonnaReplyWithNoU!CuzHurtFeefees.

  28. max

    What, then, is to be done ? How to live as the collapse envelops the world around us ? If Trump goes it will accelerate.
    The Benedict option will become reality. Go bush and live somewhere possibly but not necessarily with others where media is restricted or removed and follow the routine of the centuries, prayer, work and study.
    There are many abandoned or shuttered Catholic churches throughout the Australian bush. The original Franciscans started by restoring a derelict building.

  29. Iampeter

    Currencylad supporting an authoritarian fascist president. In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning and Catallaxy continues its long, sad descent. Please, just fuck off to Breitbart and stop polluting this site with your shit.

    Pretty much this. But was it ever really different?

    Now go away and sulk, IamGonnaReplyWithNoU!CuzHurtFeefees.

    It’s hard to respond to someone who has no idea what he is talking about and has no business in these discussions. What’s more, you know this is true, so this is all in bad faith and it’s also why you follow me from thread to thread trying to disrupt ALL discussions.

    But you’re really just making a fool of yourself and providing a good laugh.

  30. Rex Anger

    It’s hard to respond to someone who has no idea what he is talking about and has no business in these discussions

    Something I note without fail about you whenever you slide face-first into the Cat and start trying to troll, Petey.

    Seriously, you spout so much projecting wank that the Cat is in serious danger of being misconstrued as a Pr0n site and cancelled by your fellow travellers in the ‘WoN’t Sumbuddy Plz ThiNk 0f teh ChUlDrinZ’ brigade.

    Shame you have nothing to say in return about your beloved Enlightenment ideals being devised by your hated theists. Nor about Eastern Europe refusing your woke ‘individualist’ and ‘capitalist’ ideals in favour of actual liberty and prosperity. Instead, just pure projection and REEEEE!

    Now go away and sulk. And try to be more witty and original in your retorts.

  31. C.L.

    I was here when the site began. I don’t recall ‘Richard Bender’ or Iampeter.

    Catallaxy was total shit at that time. People only came for the lunatic thread arguments.
    Jason Soon wrote nothing of any importance and nothing that was picked up by anyone else.
    He wasn’t a writer or a particularly deep thinker.

    The nerd ‘libertarians’ were mostly illiterate accountants and were utterly clueless about the political and cultural underpinnings of any campaign to limit government or defend liberty.

    They were also intellectual cowards who cared more about staying on side with left-wing luvvies than they did about such things as religious liberty, for example. I well remember Soon saying he didn’t care when the then Victorian Labor government made it compulsory for Catholic doctors to refer women on to abortion (at the risk of being prosecuted).

    He was about as freedom-loving as Nancy Pelosi.

    The greatest libertarian triumphs in Australian politics in the the last 100 years were the defeat of the two conscription referenda during WWI and the routing of communists in the trade unions. These two things were achieved by Daniel Mannix and B.A. Santamaria respectively.

    Since Sinclair took over, the site has become busy, its authors diverse, the quality of everything has improved and it is now Australia’s most important private blog.

    Breitbart would pay me more but I’m not going anywhere – so get fucked.

  32. Rex Anger

    Happy your post went up, C.L. They are valuable and thought-provoking. Else the trolls would not appear.

    Being the sensitive, New Age Anger that I am I recognise now that IamASaltierMarxistthanTheEntireSovietNavyAtTheHeightOfItsPowerInthe1970s was catasrrophicallytriggered by my reference to the total, shock collapse of his side in the 1989 World Political and Martial Olympiad. Hence his failure to reply to the thread, and attack me directly.

    As such, I declare to all Cats that I shall try to not mention this again in the presence of IamGorbachev’sGhost, to avoid unnecessary and regrettable angst (and No, U!s)…

    …At least until I forget.

  33. Catallaxy was total shit at that time. People only came for the lunatic thread arguments.
    Jason Soon wrote nothing of any importance and nothing that was picked up by anyone else.
    He wasn’t a writer or a particularly deep thinker.

    The nerd ‘libertarians’ were mostly illiterate accountants and were utterly clueless about the political and cultural underpinnings of any campaign to limit government or defend liberty.

    Epic trolling.

  34. DrBeauGan

    CL is indeed an excellent writer, in large part because he is a thoughtful man and consequently has important things to say. The contrast between him and the trolls could hardly be more stark.

    I am an atheist and a child of the enlightenment, and not disposed to faith. But it is impossible to deny that it was Christianity that gave rise to the enlightenment and that Western civilisation owes everything to what came from Judaism, Greek thought, and the synthesis that Christianity made of them.

    What we are seeing is not unlike what happened when Christianity came to undermine and save the best of the Roman empire, with the crucial difference that the new religion of Wokeness is vile, anti-human leftist insanity. It is based on envy, spite and destruction. But it offers meaning to those whom the churches have failed.

    I don’t believe there is any hope of a resurgence of Christianity in the West. Poland, Hungary and the United States are the last bastions, but I cannot see them surviving for long.

  35. Rex Anger

    @ Dr Beau Gan-

    Don’t write Believers off just yet, mate. The Church has traditionally thrived under persecution. The Romans eventually set about to co-opt and control it because no matter how many Christians they tortured and killed, new groups sprung up like rock daisies. Hope and faith are scary things. Even scarier when they are not being used to kill or subvert you…

    Many modern Western churches are moribund and powerless, full of people who often do not believe in their own Creator. This means they are unattractive to even their own kind, amd their message to those outside falls on deaf ears and even draws contempt. This is the sad consequence of wanting to be ‘safe,’ to be inoffensive and ‘welcoming’ and ‘inclusive.’ The Bible does not teach a safe or inoffensive message. Jesus would not have been hung on a tree if he was safe or inoffensive. God is not safe or inoffensive. He is good. But not safe…

    I look forward to revival, mate. Even if it means having to witness the returnof a dark age. Of course, I’d much prefer if it didn’t happen… 😛

  36. C.L.

    I laid it on a bit thick, Dot – I always liked Soon – but let’s call sentimentality about the Good Olde Days at Catallaxy for what it is: total bullshit. It was an important attempt to put the small government case while the Anglopshere’s conservatives were, to be sure, getting sucked in a smidgen by Bush and Howard.

    However…

    Sinclair effortlessly welcomed/blended economic libertarianism and, yes, cultural conservatism to make this site a truly vibrant agora of ideas and intellectual fellowship. Both strands chip away at each other at times but that’s a good thing.

    I don’t believe there is any hope of a resurgence of Christianity in the West. Poland, Hungary and the United States are the last bastions, but I cannot see them surviving for long.

    There is always that possibility – in which case Christianity will revert to the house churches of Apostolic times and perhaps the remnant-ism already normalised elsewhere in the world.

    Thanks, Doc.

  37. Rex Anger

    in which case Christianity will revert to the house churches of Apostolic times

    Some of us are already at it, C.L.

  38. Iampeter

    Catallaxy was total shit at that time. People only came for the lunatic thread arguments.
    Jason Soon wrote nothing of any importance and nothing that was picked up by anyone else.
    He wasn’t a writer or a particularly deep thinker.

    That’s what I kinda thought. Thanks for confirming.
    So if anything it’s gotten better!

    The nerd ‘libertarians’ were mostly illiterate accountants and were utterly clueless about the political and cultural underpinnings of any campaign to limit government or defend liberty.

    Yea, so it’s not “libertarians” vs conservatives or something. I agree with your assessment of libertarians.
    It’s those of us who are supporters of individual rights and capitalism (often confused for libertarianism) vs everyone else.
    If you are not on the side of “individual rights and capitalism,” which as a religious collectivist you are not, then you are not on the right wing side of politics.
    In other words, your very valid criticism of libertarians applies to you too.

    Since Sinclair took over, the site has become busy, its authors diverse, the quality of everything has improved and it is now Australia’s most important private blog.

    Sure. But it’s not in any shape or form a “centre right\libertarian\individualist\capitalist” blog.
    Most posters here want the state to regulate every aspect of peoples lives and don’t even realize their positions are left wing.
    Aside from the occasional posts from Sinclair and Alan Moran, there is no other content even resembling a centre-right position. Just very confused statists.
    That’s all I’m saying and I think that’s all Richard is saying too.

  39. Iampeter

    I am an atheist and a child of the enlightenment, and not disposed to faith. But it is impossible to deny that it was Christianity that gave rise to the enlightenment and that Western civilisation owes everything to what came from Judaism, Greek thought, and the synthesis that Christianity made of them.

    Christianity caused the Dark Ages which is why we needed an enlightenment in the first place. The enlightenment was all about rediscovering the writings and ideas of ancient Rome and Greece and rebuilding Western civilization that Christianity derailed for over a millennia.
    Saying Christianity “gave rise to the enlightenment” is just appallingly backwards.
    I know you don’t mean it this way, but it’s the equivalent of holocaust denial-level of ignorance.

  40. Rex Anger

    OK, IamChangingMyAngleofAttackBecauseIGotStymiedEverywhereElse.

    If you are not on the side of “individual rights and capitalism,” which as a religious collectivist you are not, then you are not on the right wing side of politics.

    It seems, IamAVeryGoodRedGuard,Honest! That you cannot help your Marxist Mobyisms and slurs. Gatekeeping in the very best SJW tradition. How very individualist and capitalist and liberal of you…

    But it’s not in any shape or form a “centre right\libertarian\individualist\capitalist” blog.
    Most posters here want the state to regulate every aspect of peoples lives and don’t even realize their positions are left wing.

    You, as an ostensibly individualist and capitalist poster, have repeatedly declared that rightwing thinkers are (or should be) a disparate and heterogenous bunch with little in the way of consistent ideology and message. Who are you, then IamMissingTheCulturalRevolutionBadly, to collectively declare that the majority of people here are ‘X’ or ‘Y’ or stupid?

    Aside from the occasional posts from Sinclair and Alan Moran, there is no other content even resembling a centre-right position. Just very confused statists.
    That’s all I’m saying and I think that’s all Richard is saying too.

    More Mobyism. You could almost get away with calling it an opinion, IamPronetoCastingMyAspersionsAsActualFact, except that you like absolutist statements and denunciations. It’s no longer 1966! Mao is dead, baby! The struggle is over!

    If you don’t like it, IamTheGreatLeapForward, there is a whole Internet out there to be the Zampolit of. Heck, most of’em would welcome you to their struggle sessions.The better to weed put the reactionary and the uncommitted.

  41. Rex Anger

    Christianity caused the Dark Ages which is why we needed an enlightenment in the first place…Saying Christianity “gave rise to the enlightenment” is just appallingly backwards.
    I know you don’t mean it this way, but it’s the equivalent of holocaust denial-level of ignorance.

    So is spouting Soviet-derived anti-Christian propaganda, IamZampolit.

    The enlightenment was all about rediscovering the writings and ideas of ancient Rome and Greece and rebuilding Western civilization that Christianity derailed for over a millennia.

    Ironic, then, that it was those evil, backwards, collectivist Christianists who continued to write and read and preserve all manner of documented knowledge after the sackings of Rome and Byzantium (as did those pre- Ottoman I-slammers).

    Seriously, IamAGuyWhoHatesAllGodsButMe, who is the relugious bigot here? The alleged ‘bigots’ you decry with frequency and bile, or you, who takes your ostensibly irreligious position and have turned it into an article of religious faith all of its own?

Comments are closed.