What they said: Cancel Culture

Op-eds that would have easily been published just two years ago would now get an editor or a writer in serious trouble, if not fired. If a piece is perceived as likely to inspire backlash internally or on social media, the editor or writer avoids pitching it. If she feels strongly enough to suggest it, she is quickly steered to safer ground. And if, every now and then, she succeeds in getting a piece published that does not explicitly promote progressive causes, it happens only after every line is carefully massaged, negotiated and caveated.

Bari Weiss

Cancel culture”, in all its alliterative horror, sounds like a terrifying wave of intolerance. Something from Nazi Germany or Margaret Atwood’s Gilead. But it doesn’t really exist. 

Those shouting about cancel culture are focused only on the most aggressive minority. They are treating a group that is asking for accountability as though it were a mob spreading fear. These supposed cancellers don’t own magazines or companies, or run television stations; they aren’t bullies — they are trying to protect vulnerable groups from being bullied by the powerful.

For too long there have been next to no repercussions for those making bigoted comments or committing sexual assault, and people have had enough. What we’re saying is: if you act in a way we find reprehensible, we won’t give you our custom; we won’t buy your products, watch your films, be your fans.

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32 Responses to What they said: Cancel Culture

  1. What we’re saying is: if you act in a way we find reprehensible, we won’t give you our custom; we won’t buy your products, watch your films, be your fans.

    What we’re really saying is do as we say, not as we do.

  2. Megan

    Shorter Flora: It’s not me, I’m a good person. I’m so good I can determine what is right and wrong for everyone. I don’t bully, I’m a good person. Etc. Etc. and on and on.

  3. Yarpos

    So basically a free market then, like the product and the maker then buy it, if not dont. Stripping away the virtue signalling hasnt that always been the case? All the cancellers offer is a frequently low value opinion.

  4. tombell

    I’m sure AA is puking in heaven at his daughter’s tripe.

  5. Lee

    Flora sounds like a smug, self-righteous, totalitarian a…hole.

  6. Mother Lode

    Flora seems to be saying that they are entitled to be judge, jury and executioner enforcing their own facile morality.

    And why does she think businesses knuckle under so swiftly? Does she really believe it is because with their guilt laid bare they cannot bear the burning gaze of righteousness cranky teenagers? Or the damage they can do to their businesses?

    These kids are like child soldiers – told who to hate, who their new friends are, and then handed weapons to blindly and bloodily play out those feelings on the world.

  7. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    And our weak, worthless governments do nothing but roll over and play dead. That’s why I vote for Pauline!

  8. bronson

    FMD so little insight so big an ego “im not doing it for me im so virtuous im doing it for them” whether they want it or not. Give over lady stop the victim game it does nobody any good least of all “the victim”

  9. vr

    Turns out Bret Stephens’ column meant to run twice a week hasn’t been published in 11 days. Rumor is that he is on the move as well.

  10. Infidel Tiger King

    A.A.Gill would have been cancelled by now if still alive.

  11. Infidel Tiger King

    The Grey Lady is now just longform twitter bile.

  12. Graham

    I sense that ‘The Times’ is on the same slippery path of decline as the New York Times, but only a bit later. There is no reason to subscribe to The Times.

  13. John Brumble

    Leftists – who wouldn’t know a free market if it defeated them in two World Wars – like to pretend that their bullying tactics are just a bit of Alinsky #4. Except, since they don’t understand actual free markets, what they ignore is that the environment they have created is entirely the opposite of a free market.

    Companies don’t cave in to a couple of people on Twitter – companies cave in to the governmental power the sort of people who complain on Twitter wield. Government contracts are at stake. And backing up the sort of people who complain on Twitter are a media who, if they don’t cow-tow to the pro-government view of the world, are also shown the door (as evidenced by those like Weiss) directly or via bullying.

    Yes, if all these people were doing was taking their own custom and those of their friends away it would be the free market at work. But they aren’t. They are leveraging the entirely unfree, market-controlling behemoth that is the government-media complex to apply force undue their actual buying power.

    Calling this the free market at work would be like calling the action of a corrupt council officer to approve their own dodgy building application the same.

  14. Dave in Marybrook

    Waleed Aly on Radio National just delivered a blistering speed-speech on how he doesn’t like the terms Left and Right, and he doesn’t believe we are besieged by a rampaging Cancel Culture… but the Right is by far definitely the most rabid attackers and sackers of anyone who dares to disagree with their rigid orthodoxy.
    I believe it’s called “taqqiya”, the Magic Ayrab has just ued the same switcheroo that usually goes from Mueslis to Christians, and tried it for Collectivism onto Liberalism.
    This is what $1.2B per annum gets us. A clickbait broadcaster.

  15. Dave in Marybrook

    Leftisits… wouldn’t know a free market if it defeated them in two World Wars
    Nice, Brumble. Liberty Quote please, Doomlord.

  16. Rob

    Twitter is the home paddock for anonymous and miserable hate fueled cowards.
    Barrie would do well close his Twitter account and totally ignore it’s warped tenants.
    There’s a far better world patiently waiting for Twitter to enter its own foul backside – the ultimate circular conversation that will disappear it.

  17. “The paper of record is, more and more, the record of those living in a distant galaxy”

    NGC-ABC

  18. Lee

    Waleed Aly on Radio National just delivered a blistering speed-speech on how he doesn’t like the terms Left and Right, and he doesn’t believe we are besieged by a rampaging Cancel Culture… but the Right is by far definitely the most rabid attackers and sackers of anyone who dares to disagree with their rigid orthodoxy.

    The irony is, Aly, and many of the the views he publicly espouses wouldn’t last five minutes in a strict
    I s l a m i c country, such as Iran or Saudi Arabia.

  19. Watch Your Back

    It’s not simply the cancelling end of the equation, bad as it is, but there is now a whole reframing of terms and buzz words one must use.

    I write a wee piece a month or so back on the impact of plagues, panics and riots on city economies, the built form and the (re)distribution of households and businesses. I sent it as an opinion piece to a London Society of which I am a Fellow. The editor was unhappy with the characterisation of riots as, we, riots. She argued that these were largely peaceful protests by the oppressed. She also proposed cutting the length by a third.

    I edited it down and cut several paragraphs out on the impacts of rioting on US cities.

    She still wasn’t happy. She advised me I need to refer to ‘sustainability, inequality, diversity and inclusion, reimagining and resilience’.

    I said just to forget it and published the article elsewhere.

  20. Pyrmonter

    H/T to Marginal REVOLUTION

    https://twitter.com/sullydish/status/1283100440683479043

    (Mind, most Cats these days would dismiss Sullivan as a ‘libtard’)

  21. If you have not read Bari’s letter, READ IT while you can. The human rights commission might ban it soon because it might offend on the basis of race.

  22. Infidel Tiger King

    (Mind, most Cats these days would dismiss Sullivan as a ‘libtard’)

    Is he still snooping around Sarah Palin’s vagina?

  23. Iampeter

    On the plus side, it’s fun watching progressives suddenly realize they are going to be eaten alive by the monster they themselves created.

  24. Pyrmonter

    @ ITK

    That was indeed unseemly; though McCain’s choice of Palin was one of the early signs of quite how broken the US system is.

  25. H B Bear

    Too much lazy j’ism is just simply reproducing Tweets. You might as well run photos of the back of uni toilet doors.

  26. NoFixedAddress

    One might consider that ‘Freedom of The Press’ might equate with Freedom of Thought and hence the Freedom to Publish disparate Ideas.

    This is apparently not the case in America and surely negates any protections or Freedoms, constitutional or legal, that they rely upon.

  27. Squirrel

    I live in hope that we’ll get to the point of “enough is enough” and that some of the bed-wetters amongst the corporate elites will start to fight back.

    Sure – have a close look at any social media attacks, just in case they really do have a valid point in a particular case – but in most cases, the answer will be no, they are up themselves, at which point all guns should be aimed at the attackers and at any corporate competitors who seek to take advantage of an attack on a rival.

    If this means that some precious little snowflakes get a rough ride, get doxed etc. etc. too bloody bad – this stuff is out of control and lessons need to be learned about actions having consequences.

  28. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Artist Formerly Known As Spartacus
    #3513993, posted on July 15, 2020 at 3:59 pm
    If you have not read Bari’s letter, READ IT while you can. The human rights commission might ban it soon because it might offend on the basis of race.

    I notice she had a swipe at the owners the Shulzbergers (?) One wonders as to their motives in allowing this once great bastion of journalism and international harvester of information to fall into such a state of degenerate decay.

  29. Mother Lode

    Waleed Aly on Radio National just delivered a blistering speed-speech on how he doesn’t like the terms Left and Right

    I actually cavil at this distinction as well, but mostly because it is the left’s jargon and they employed a paradigm as simplistic as ‘Left’ equals ‘us’, and ‘Right’ equals everybody else. They use two terms to explain multitudinous possibilities of which there will be many that have not even come into existence yet.

    The schema of political organisation could be class (communism and the traditional left), race (the Nastis), nation (fascist Italy), religion (all those awful I-slam-ic states), as well as such other options as technocratic knowledge, identity collectives (the modern left), familial relations etc.

    They can’t really classify the paradigm of individual sovereignty because as soon as you try to arrange people into a hierarchy of power you have put them into groups. No political theory is based on 20 million individual interacting entities.

    And so that is the distinction I find more useful: collectivist and individualist.

    The issue is that there is none of the above type of politics that can account for individualist politics, while a scale of collectivist vs individual politics does.

    Moreover within the different systems – economic, racial, national, genetic etc – as they tend toward individualist they become indistinguishable.

    But as the tend toward the collectivist the collectivist they become unnervingly similar: Soviet Russia (supposed left) and Nasti Germany (supposed right) have far more in common than the US as it was she all three were embroiled in conflict (supposed right – but of a good sort).

    But progressives would define it as the left (USSR) naturally aligning against the right (NSDAP) in company with the West who, not being socialist are also of the right are conflict againt the Grmans of the right and hence also of the left…ah, fuck it!

  30. Perfidious Albino

    Bari Weiss was apparently also complicit in bringing Buzzfeeds Ali Watkins to The Times and publishing material leaked to her by the head of security for the US Senate Intelligence Committee. Fortunately, there was a leak tracker in the version of the document provided to the SSCI and we also know now the document itself – an application to the FISA Court was fraudulently prepared.

    The deep state plot to topple Trump is starting to receive sunlight now, so expect a lot more cockroaches to start scuttling… (full sordid deets at Conservative Treehouse).

  31. Herodotus

    A “journalist” renting the house next door to the Palins to spy on them and write about them was an early sign of quite how bad the USA left was.

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