When “Fact Checking” becomes a collage of government press releases

This morning we awake to the news:

Victorian health authorities have confirmed a link between two COVID-19 cases in people who attended the Black Lives Matter protest in Melbourne’s CBD just over a month ago, and the cluster of at least 242 cases in public housing towers in the city’s inner northwest.

Who could ever have predicted that allowing 10,000 people to protest in the streets during the middle of a pandemic would be a bad idea?

The Victorian government have been in CYA mode all along. As has the RMIT-ABC Fact Check unit.

Here is the linkage.

And here is the time line of the latest Victorian outbreak.

So on the 26 June – 20 days after the BLM protests – the RMIT-ABC Fact Check unit weighed into the debate. Now note – it didn’t consult with a single medical doctor or epidemiologist. Fact check units don’t do that sort of thing! No, the entire “fact check” was a collage of government press releases and comments.

The RMIT-ABC Fact Check unit was responding to comments made by Victorian Liberal politicians (and SKY News) linking the latest outbreak to the BLM protests.

But these assertions contradict the guidance of officials of the Victorian Department of Health and Human Services, who continue to report that the current burst of cases does not stem from the rally.

Then we have this awesome clincher:

According to official Australian Government advice, “most people who are infected will develop symptoms within 14 days of infection”.

It has been 20 days since the Black Lives Matter protest in Melbourne.

Magnificent analysis. Simply magnificent.

Now looking back to the time line. On the day of the BLM protests there were zero new cases in Victoria. Zero. That is a nice round number. Just two weeks later – on Saturday June 20 – there were 25. Two weeks after that there were 125. On the very day the RMIT-ABC Fact Check unit published their collage of government press releases as a fact check there were 30 new cases.

But wait – there is more:

Meanwhile, a strain of COVID-19 detected in southwest Sydney — where 30 people have been struck with the virus — originated from Victoria.

Genomic tests given to NSW Health show a unique Victorian strain has hit Sydney, where there is growing concern about the number of new cases.

We here in Victoria are now back into lock down because of stupidity and incompetence. I suspect NSW might soon follow. Remember which media groups were trying to report what was going on and which media groups (and “fact check units” infested by ABC and former Fairfax hacks) were cover up.

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36 Responses to When “Fact Checking” becomes a collage of government press releases

  1. Judith Sloan

    But Sinc, this wisdom comes from your very own university. It can’t be wrong, surely?

  2. Boambee John

    Don’t let the bin chicken read this, he will post a detailed “forensic” analysis which will “prove” that it was all caused by Bob Menzies.

  3. John Bayley

    Seriously…who gives a f*ck about ‘new cases’?
    Especially given the dodgy methodology behind it.

    Lockdowns don’t work.
    Masks don’t work.
    ‘Social distancing’ is a con and it does not work.
    There’s plenty of evidence for those conclusions, plus also quite a number of ‘experts’ have by now conceded so much.

    It is a virus. There have been many others like it, and always will be.
    The only way to handle it is to let people manage their own affairs.
    If you think you’re at risk, stay at home.
    Let the rest of us get on with our lives.
    The fallout from the economic depression this is causing will cause many more deaths and suffering than ConVid-1984 ever could.

    Seriously, this BS is worse than what the commies ever came up with in the old Eastern Block.
    And I’m speaking from personal experience.

  4. vr

    Fact checking the fact checkers. Nice one, Sinc!

  5. Makka

    numbers states that this is all a fabrication. Fantasy. Lol.

  6. mundi

    Where does the first quote come from? The first link is wrong?

    [Link fixed. Thanks. Sinc]

  7. stackja

    Isolate the vulnerable in proper facilities. Quarantine the infected.
    Reduce the number of health bureaucrats. Ignore “fact check”.

  8. But the experts have been consulted throughout!

  9. Sinclair Davidson

    But Sinc, this wisdom comes from your very own university. It can’t be wrong, surely?

    Heh – my compliant about this unit is still outstanding.

  10. Tony

    We don’t know if the H&M employees was infected at BLM. What we do know, is that if they had isolated themselves for 14 days post-protest, then the H&M cluster would not have happened.

    The point being, this cluster is deeply ironic. This person protested, ostensibly to protect the community. In reality, they have sadly, probably caused more deaths and injuries than if they had stayed home.

  11. duncanm

    The point being, this cluster is deeply ironic. This person protested, ostensibly to protect the community. In reality, they have sadly, probably caused more deaths and injuries than if they had stayed home.

    most of the deaths will be of lives that don’t matter by inference.

  12. Sinclair Davidson

    This person protested, ostensibly to protect the community. In reality, they have sadly, probably caused more deaths and injuries than if they had stayed home.

    I wonder if any of the people who attended that protest while also having COVID have been fined?

  13. John Brumble

    Sure Tony. The virus managed to make its way through a tiny number of contacts, nearly all of which were for short periods of time, and most of whom were social distancing and not in a confined space before finally getting to this person, but it completely wasn’t able to transfer between thousands of people in close proximity exchanging gases for hours on end.

    The truth is that there are probably many hundreds of protest attendees who have or had the illness, but given the age range, most of them won’t have even felt sick and those that would wouldn’t dare get tested lest they betray the cause.

    And if that’s not the case, then we should pack up this load of bulldust authoritarian control inflicted on us so that our betters don’t look bad and get back to work, because if the protests didn’t lead to mass infections and deaths then the virus is just a bad flu.

  14. Lee

    I remember at the time of the BLM protests, some were ludicrously claiming that “BLM protests don’t spread the coronavirus; racism does”, as justification for mass gatherings.
    Absolutely amazing what “racism” can do!

  15. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I suspect NSW might soon follow

    It had bloody well better not. My tolerance of this hysterical preposterous fact and evidence free fascist bullshit is well and truly at an end.

    There are now hundreds of thousands of others in Sydney who feel exactly the same way.

  16. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    at the time of the BLM protests, some were ludicrously claiming

    Any cretin who attended a BIM* screechfest is by definition, a racist – i.e. a person who judges other people solely on the basis of their physical appearance. They are as obsessed with race as the nayzees, the KKK** and the boers.

    *Black Imbeciles Matter
    ** The former terrorist wing of the dumbocrats

  17. Beachcomber

    John Bayley at 11:08 am.

    Yes!!! Exactly right!

    These new “cases” are meaningless. Almost all of them have no symptoms, apart from those who may have a cold or seasonal flu. They are not “cases” of ill or infected people. They are nothing but “positive results” in a scientifically meaningless test that is not fit for the purpose. All that the apparatchiks in the Andrews/Berejiklian/McGowan etc. regimes have to do is re-set the arbitrary cut-off in the procedure for “positive” and guess what, we have a “new wave” of “cases” that justifies the next round of police-state hysteria. It is like Groundhog Day in a never ending totalitarian nightmare.

    Trying to score political points using their own meaningless numbers just gives them credibility. We have to fight the whole vicious charade by asking the obvious questions. Where are the sick people? Where are the dying people? Why are the hospitals empty? Where is the epidemic?

  18. PaulW

    Just like Victoria is finally admitting, the BLM protests spread the virus in major US cities as well.

    “Officials in Los Angeles, Seattle, and Miami-Dade County, Fla., have acknowledged that anti-police protests and riots may have led to increased spread of the coronavirus, according to a Fox News report.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/protests-may-have-spread-coronavirus-some-cities-admit/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=article&utm_campaign=right-rail&utm_content=top-stories&utm_term=fourth

  19. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    And come the next Vic state election the idiot electorate will vote this clown in for another term. They deserve everything they get! Zero sympathy.

  20. John A

    Colonel Bunty Golightly #3513858, posted on July 15, 2020, at 1:32 pm

    And come the next Vic state election the idiot electorate will vote this clown in for another term. They deserve everything they get! Zero sympathy.

    Colonel Blimp, please do NOT tar me with the same brush. I have consistently voted against this mob of conniving hucksters, and I do not plan to change that stance any time soon.

  21. MACK

    Show us yer genomes, Danny. What about transparency? What about FOI?
    Where’s Liberty Victoria? After all, they:
    – Help foster a society based on the democratic participation of all its members and the principles of justice, openness, the right to dissent and respect for diversity.
    – Secure the equal rights of everyone and oppose any abuse or excessive power by the state against its people.

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    What the hell happened to the OT?

    Forgettoried? Who broke the rules this time?

  23. Sinclair Davidson

    OT is working fine.

  24. Knuckle Dragger

    Man. Freaky.

    It disappeared from my system. Every other post but that is still there. Got back in through the sidebar.

    Probably Huawei-related.

  25. Professor Fred Lenin

    Mack , liberty victoria are too busy sitting on the judicial bench finding violent protetors and criminals not guilty Or letting them off with a caution and plotting the next attack on Pell That rotten Extreme Right High Coyrt let him go ,they have to correct that rejection of their injustice , it took a lot of work to concoct that fitup .

  26. H B Bear

    Sorry, don’t see it. There have been a series of failures in Victoriastan- multiculturalism, quarantine, Cedar Meats and a general failure to provide full information regarding known cases. If there was no asymptomatic people at the BLM protest ( which was not and could not be known) the virus cannot spontaneously appear regardless of how many people were there and how they conducted themselves. The whole protest was a huge risk to run but I do not accept that the current Victoriastan mess can be attributed to it.

    The RMIT fact check unit is just embarrassing and a case of the ALPBC protesting too much.

  27. Pyrmonter

    It is not necessary that the protests have been the site at which infection occurred; what matters is that the government – one that had high-handedly dismissed all complaints and heavy-handedly enforced the strictest ‘lockdown’ in the country – made an exception for an event generally thought to be one for which it had sympathy. It is the same as the (I think unfounded) complaint made about the pentecostal conference that occurred in Sydney immediately before the NSW measures took effect (the Left insinuate that the PM sought to avoid its disruption).

    Governments that are seen to act inconsistently with their own announced policies induce disrespect for the law, good or bad. _That_ is the failing of which Andrews stands accused, and which, if he faced a competent opposition, would cost him and his party their jobs. As it is, it’s still hard to imagine that Andrews’ successor will be replaced by one of another party any time soon.

  28. Leo G

    There have been about 242 cases linked to the North Melbourne/Flemington housing cluster.

    But only a handful of clinically confirmed cases. A testing blitz likely produces false positive test results at a rate of about 5 per hundred.
    Thousands have been tested. I’d be surprised if more than 24 of those 242 “cases” were real.

  29. Gerry

    I read the article in the Oz this morning and noted the following from para 4:
    The confirmation of the link follows 10,000 people attending the June 6 rally. The event went ahead after the Andrews government and DHHS advised people to “consider other ways to show support” for the Black Lives Matter cause, but backed a Victoria Police decision not to issue fines to those who attended.
    My recollection is not always precise, but I had it in my head that perhaps it was Ms Mikakos who had announced that the police would not be fining those present at Danny’s Street Party. I recall this because somewhere in the same back blocks of my head I was thinking, politicians should not be directing law enforcement to ignore the law. At least not here.
    If a ‘genonic’ (trending) related death has occurred, is their an incitement to harm or accessory before the fact?

  30. H B Bear

    Pyrmonter – that is a different, and valid point. Once Chairman Dan gave the BLM protesters a free pass it was always going to be difficult to argue that all bets weren’t off. And so it proved.

  31. Squirrel

    Happy to be corrected, but Victoriastan seems to be the only jurisdiction which has tried to downplay its positive test results by reporting the daily number of cases due to “routine testing” (as opposed to those related to known “outbreaks” and those “under investigation”) – as if “routine testing” positives are somehow less of a problem, and can be dismissed as “nothing to see here”.

    While we’re on the subject of Our ABC, over the last few days it’s been noticeable that low double digit results in NSW are apparently far more of a worry than triple digit cases south of the border.

  32. Tim Neilson

    While we’re on the subject of Our ABC, over the last few days it’s been noticeable that low double digit results in NSW are apparently far more of a worry than triple digit cases south of the border.

    Headquartered at Ultimo.

    It’s like the bushfires. Media coverage had little to do with the severity of the fires, and a lot more to do with proximity to Sydney and prevailing winds carrying smoke into the woke suburbs.

  33. a reader

    Locals around here are having fits because 13 people tested positive! 13 fucking people…none of whom are in hospital

  34. Julian the deplorable

    So if one person is infected, it takes up to 14 days to show symptoms, and then it spreads to the next person which can take another 14 days…so therefore 20 days is right on the money before a cluster develops. Prettt basic analysis but alas, the fact check unit is really about propaganda.

  35. PB

    Vibrant diversities ruin everything they touch, everywhere they go.

  36. Kneel

    “It had bloody well better not. My tolerance of this hysterical preposterous fact and evidence free fascist bullshit is well and truly at an end.

    There are now hundreds of thousands of others in Sydney who feel exactly the same way.”

    +1,000,000

    Well sick of this bullshit here mate.
    Notice how it’s all about “cases” now, deaths are ignored – for the simple reason, the death numbers are NOT scary and getting less so, as testing ramps up and we start to get a feel for actual prevalence in the general community.
    So tell us, Mr Media Man, how many people are dying from this?
    <crickets>
    How many get sick enough to require hospitalisation?
    <crickets>
    Tells you all you need to know, dunnit?

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