Move to Tasmania and beat the rush!

Think where  you want to be when they get rid of coal and gas!

The live version. The length of the bars indicates the generation in each state, to find demand put the cursor on the bar and look in the table under the chart.

Not much wind in Victoria at present. See the picture over 24 hours at the Aneroid site.

Liberty Quote – No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism — Winston Churchill

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19 Responses to Move to Tasmania and beat the rush!

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    South Island NZ gets 98% of their power from hydro. Of course you would have to put up with frigid temperatures, incessant rain, earthquakes and sheep.

  2. Rafe Champion

    Likewise Norway and the economy floats on oil and gas exports:)

  3. John Bayley

    They forgot to include the diesel that helps keep the lights on in SA.

  4. Rafe Champion

    Nor the coal power from Victoria ( that is propped up by Qld and Tas) – you have to work that out from the difference between supply and demand. Some of the time they export, some of the time they import.

  5. Rebel with cause

    There will probably be a lot of businesses that move permanently to a working from home model to survive so it makes sense to consider regional locations. Why pay Sydney or Melbourne real estate prices if you don’t have to?

  6. Of course you would have to put up with frigid temperatures, incessant rain, earthquakes and sheep.

    Not forgetting the smelly ferals.

  7. a happy little debunker

    Tassie has got to stop with their Basslink mk2 proposal and the Fed’s ‘Battery of the Nation’ crap first.
    Exporting our energy’s competitive advantage, whilst also pumping that energy uphill – makes absolutely no sense…

  8. Cardimona

    makes absolutely no sense…

    It’s not meant to.
    It’s doublethink indoctrination.

  9. Aynsley Kellow

    Bruce, as a South Island native I could be triggered by your shameful comment, but I’ll desist from that! I’m not from the Snowflake generation.

    Speaking of Snowflake generation, the South Island generators are largely snow-fed, so they do have to import a little from the North in winter, which is largely rain-fed with a little thermal. There will be a SI surplus once the Tiwai Point smelter closes.

    Rafe, it will be interesting to see what the data for this winter say at the end. It seems to have been a cold winter, with many anticyclonic days – either frosts or cold mornings, but very little wind. In fact, the BOM data often seem to overstate things. They read calm at present, but an hour ago they were giving 9kmh, yet a look outside at our treetops showed zero movement. We are less than a km from the BOM site.

    I haven’t been watching wind in the NW where most of the turbines are.

  10. Slim Cognito

    Not forgetting the smelly ferals.

    I was going to say Bob Brown and his ilk but I think you summarised it better.

  11. Not forgetting the smelly ferals.

    Bugger! My comment was directed at Taswegia.

  12. pbw

    At 10.10, it looks as though SA gas is providing power (energy, as JS-M would insist) to Victoria. Oh, the shame.

  13. Ellen of Tasmania

    Back in the ‘good old days’ when Deadman used to comment here, we suggested a ‘Free State Tasmania’ project.

    With a small population, it wouldn’t take a lot of new-comers to change the political climate.

    Plus, Tassie is beautiful.

  14. Tassie is beautiful, we’ve visited it over a dozen times and even contemplated moving there, but realised it’s more of a nice place to visit than necessarily live. Unfortunately it’s too much like Daylesford Vic or Nimbin NSW, overrun by Greens and ferals (or is that Green ferals?).

  15. Rafe Champion

    Yes Aynsley I looked at the trees outside my window one day, not a movement but the NSW turbines were recording some wind.

    Incidentally I checked the number of windfarms yesterday, the AEMO has records for every registered generator and each farm is counted as a generator, likewise the individual turbines in coal plants like the 4 in Bayswater. So I refer to the figures on the Aneroid site. There are other sites that show the farms and the windmills in each state including WA, usually with a table of work in progress on schemes with plans approved.

    At present Victoria is the leader with 23 farms and 2.77GW installed capacity, followed by SA with 22 factories (2.14GW), NSW 13 sites (1.63GW), followed by Qld with 2 (632) and Tasmania 4 (566). Total NEM capacity 7.728GW.

    You suggest the BOM may overstate things (not to mention the temperature records). If they were consulted about the viability of a wind industry in Australia then someone has really screwed up when you see the amount of down time that is recorded by the turbines (nowadays maybe the best indicator of wind supply), often across the whole of the NEM.

    Hence my dark humour about irrigation schemes without a reliable supply of water. Given the magnitude of the disaster it would appear that a Royal Commission is required, reaching back to all the official records dating from the first proposals in Government circles to support RE attached to the grid.

    It is easy to check what is happening in each state

  16. Helen

    Rafe, I once visited Tassie, flew in just before Christmas for a wedding, loved it! Said I am so going to get a holiday house here, it is fabulous.

    The day we flew out just before Christmas, it was sleeting as we drove to the airport.

    Forget the holiday house I brrrd. But I believe there is a spot, somewhere which is very mediterranean in climate, so much so that you can grow rhododendrons there.

    It is probably up north somewhere, I looked at Davenport, but lows of below 10 degrees in winter are too cold for me.

  17. But I believe there is a spot, somewhere which is very mediterranean in climate, so much so that you can grow rhododendrons there.

    The funniest time ever for one of our Tasmanian visits was around Jul-August one year when my wife had been in Bali for three weeks and the day after her return we were on the ferry to Tasmania. We had a great time, but she didn’t think the several hours on Mt Wellington in knee deep snow was a highlight of the trip. There’s a small hut on the top with a fireplace and her efforts to get a fire going was most admirable. Meanwhile, I was traipsing all over the place with my camera gear.

    The coldest and most miserable time ever was in Strahan one year with a group of fellow travelers where we couldn’t get a fire going that hot enough to keep us warm at our campsite. The only saving grace was the restaurant that my wife and I went to, while the others stayed at camp, which was one of the most outstanding that we’ve ever had the pleasure of attending. Another couple went the next night and they too were gobsmacked.

    I could go on, but Tasmania is a great place for a visit and even after at least a dozen visits, we still have just scratched the surface. It’s a pity that the ferry ride is now so expensive.

  18. Rafe Champion

    We had a ball when we took the car down a couple of years ago, a bit before xmas when the fare was reduced and we went all over the place without depending on lifts and the infrequent buses.
    We stay with family about four miles back of Burnie on the hill with a 180 degree view of the coast, warm as toast with a wood heater that replaced the old log fire and not overly cold near the coast anyway. Surprised that Devonport was too cold:)
    Given the short distances, the range of landscapes and the early buildings and infrastructure that still survive it is a tourists delight. About twenty wineries now and several brands of whiskey if that is your poison. Launceston is a particularly nice Georgian town and a lot of the new building conforms somewhat with the Georgian style.

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