More windpower on the way from Tasmania, battery of the nation

A sky news report on the way that Tasmania is becoming the battery of the nation!

The proposal is to build 67 wind turbines, each 240 metres tall, across rural properties alongside the main transmission corridor between Hobart and Launceston. Mr Jones pointed out that not only is the area known as the “jewel in the crown” of the Central Highlands, it is also home to the Tasmanian wedged tail eagle, and the Tasmanian devil.

A 2015 Parliamentary Select Committee on wind turbines found this program would impose an aggregate cost on the economy of between $30-$53 billion.

It also said the program not only inflicts a direct cost onto electricity consumers, but it also undermines Australia’s comparative advantage as a low-cost electricity supply source. “The eminently forgettable Malcolm Turnbull had a grand idea that Tasmania could be the battery of the nation”.

And Jo Nova on Trouble in RE Paradise – the end of the rooftop solar dream in South Australia.

For people who are too lazy to be windwatchers.  At 7am the windmills across SE Australia were running at 13% of capacity and delivering 4.1% of the modest pre-breakfast demand. In Victoria, the wind leader of the nation (by installed capacity), the mills were running at 4.7% of capacity and providing 2.8% of demand. In South Australia the mills were doing better at 15%  to provide 22% of demand but they were importing coal power from Victoria.

This is a moving picture, including WA and it does not represent the situation at 7am. Contemplate the supply without the black and red bits of the bars!

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18 Responses to More windpower on the way from Tasmania, battery of the nation

  1. I have no issue with people installing solar panels, but I do have an issue with those that can’t (because of location, renting etc) or can’t afford (not wealthy enough, other more pressing costs etc) to install solar panels subsidising the former.

  2. Up The Workers!

    If they built the 67 proposed Tasmanian wind turbines with two heads on each pole, would they generate twice the energy or would they merely halve the output?

    Just asking!

  3. Rafe Champion

    More research required. Or maybe a computer model simulation.

  4. Fang

    Drop the subsidy! Then see how efficient wind is!

  5. yarpos

    God the “Battery of the Nation” line is high order marketing bullshit. Its lucky to be the battery of South Eastern Victoria and the only sometimes. Somehow the world still spins when Basslink is down. Shame to see the wind disease spreading to Tassie, interesting how the Greenies arent shrieking as they do with dam proposals. Seems they have their running instructions.

  6. H B Bear

    Tasmania, where your GST goes to live.

  7. mem

    Where’s Bob Brown when he’s needed? Wind farms far more environmentally destructive and useless than dams.At least with dams you can fill them full of trout, the birds love them and they provide a reasonably consiistent source of hydro power when bass link is working.

  8. Geoff

    The Tassie Devils will do well from this – just wait at the bottom of the blades with their mouths open for the eagles to fall.

  9. Meanwhile, back at Columbia Universiry, it looks as if the game is over. Renewables won. Fossils lost. Game, set, and match!

    Details

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/07/14/renewable-energy-takes-over/

  10. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    The windmills are a complete joke but if someone offered me $50k/year return for putting one in my backyard Im sure I would manage to overcome my aversion to them!

  11. Dinky

    Geoff, The Tassie Devils won’t be so keen when the shit hits the fan.

  12. Dinky

    Where’s Bob Brown when he’s needed?

    He’s here.

    Old Bobbie didn’t care too much for wind farms when they were gonna be in his own backyard.

  13. Wayne from Perth

    I wonder who picks up the bill for dismantling these when they are obsolete. Will we have a future 200 km long dinosaur technology park when the wind companies conveniently go bankrupt when asked to stump up the costs?

  14. Wayne from Perth

    Ps
    From American experience the blades cannot be recycled and have to be buried in landfill. I hope Tassie has put aside sufficient garbage dump sites. Obsolescence will come around quicker than anyone thinks.

  15. Rafe Champion

    Jamal’s comment above is a bit misleading Meanwhile, back at Columbia University, it looks as if the game is over. Renewables won. Fossils lost. Game, set, and match!

    The link starts with the blurb of a book published some years ago that promotes RE.

    The significant content of the post the the critical commentary that follows, starting thus…

    This critical commentary is written in 2020, approximately 3 years after the book was written and a year after it was published – and so far there is no evidence of the author’s bullish assessment of the future of renewables. It is noted that in the text of the book, the author consistently evaluates renewables on power generated rather than power delivered.

  16. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Rafe, from the OOT

    Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3516284, posted on July 17, 2020 at 2:32 pm
    Rafe & Cardi,
    I received a telephone call today from the office of my local member re the first question on baseload power.
    The answer was that the party would be guided by the experts and that there would be a reliance on a mixture of solar, wind and hydro. He said the party accepts, unlike the Greens, that coal is slowly – as opposed to quickly – on the way out.
    I was able to respond that without backup none of these choices will work, bringing up the following:
    1) that the S.A. battery has limited stored power – only minutes instead of hours or days – and for all the cost.
    2) that the China Pestilence has made the electorate realise that we need manufacturing but without reliable and cheap power that can’t happen.
    3) the concerns over Liddell closing will require the right decision-making now – there is no more time.
    4) that Snowy 2.0 is a dud & the party should hammer the Govt on the exponential increase in the costing and the lack of any significant power that it will generate – that it is a slight of hand based on time of day generation and re-set.
    He knew that Malcolm Turnbull had been responsible for this and said he’d look into it.
    5) that experts are there for their expertise but should not be making decisions, which is the purview of politicians who stand before and are evaluated by the people. (I used the example of the current situation, and how one health expert will advise one thing and another will support a different course of action)
    In the course of the conversation he brought up wave technology and I was able to say that there has been at least two installations that have failed, taking taxpayer money with them and while one day it may work it would only be a power solution for a very small community.
    I was also able to say that the hydro system only works if there is water. I explained what happened when Tasmania exported huge amounts of power to the mainland to cash in on Julia Gillard’s carbon tax but when the rain didn’t come to replenish the water storages, and the interconnector broke, Tasmania had to install numbers of diesel generators. This then led into how wind and solar don’t operate when large tracts of land have no wind and then clouds roll in, which is what happened around Alice Springs earlier in the year.
    My member’s representative was, I thought, very surprised at everything I said. I finished up by saying that I may email again.
    Have you written a follow-up question?

  17. Rafe Champion

    How did I miss that? anyway Cardinoma told me and we are in communication!

    Great work!!

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