Tuesday Forum: July 28, 2020

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    Everyone!
    Check your email!
    Not you bundy.
    Or Struth.
    It’s about you.
    Not for you.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Page header perfection.
    Yay!

  3. cohenite

    Energy loss in the cable over distance, or somesuch.

    Yep, those underwater sub stations will be working over time; and the condensers required to convert DC into AC will be visible from Mars. The people advocating this should have pineapples put up their clackers; and the bureaucrats and pollies who gave the go ahead should eat the pineapples after they have stewed for a day or so.

  4. Makka

    manufacturing

    Of what?

    Admittedly a lot would need to be done additionally but all the raw materials are available here. What’s missing are;

    – MUCH lower taxes.
    -MUCH lower energy costs.
    -MUCH LESS red and green tape.
    – A BAN on all communist inspired and /or militant Unions

  5. One group of immigrants I would put on fast track entry into Australia even with this scamdemic would be South African farmers.

    Okay, nearly all SA’s I’ve met are verging on the left. They arrive poor and there’s a political party that offers them free stuff. Who are they going to vote for?

    South African farmers. Please stick to the topic.
    How many of these “SA’s” you met were actual farmers?

  6. Leigh Lowe

    Does this make me a groundbreaker/innovator?

    Innovative!
    Agile!
    And what was the third one?
    Yes, Mater.
    Someone’s own words can be telling (although I claim immunity for anything I have posted timestamped after 9:00 pm on weekends).

  7. Nick

    Everyone!
    Check your email!

    Hey, where are my frequent societal uprising miles?

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    A 59 year old Penguin woman has been charged

    Confirmation of this finding.

    Keep your distance! Pooping penguins can fire their faeces more than FOUR FEET away, scientists find (8 Jul)

    Never annoy a Penguin woman.

  9. Boambee John

    struth

    It’ll be the judgement of a sovereign nation.

    A suggestion on phrasing.

    Avoid the phrase “sovereign nation”. In practical terms, it does not mean what you intend. Every independent nation, close to 200 of them, is a sovereign nation. From real democracies through the kleptocracies of the Third World, to communist hell holes like North Korea, is sovereign.

    Use the phrase “consent of the governed”. It is closer to what I think that you intend.

  10. If it wasn’t for expat South Africans and New Zealanders, the Australian wheat industry would have ground to a halt thirty years ago.

    No.

  11. Leigh Lowe

    Zyconoclast

    #3529395, posted on July 30, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    Lesbian cheerleader, 22, may have sexually abused up to 17 girls as former students accuse her of ‘kissing and inappropriate touching’

    I don’t believe you.
    Do you have video evidence?

  12. egg_

    The clown posse is putting Numbers out of business.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    I know lots of South Africans and none were farmers.. As for politics…the ones I know are mainly right-wing….about eighty percent.

  14. Makka

    How do you know this given manufacturing is increasingly automated and moving towards continuous process monitoring, etc?

    3-4 year visa for Manufacturing start ups with favorable tax breaks. Enough time to pass on skills and knowledge. Then bye bye.

  15. Snoopy

    If any conscientious airline traffic officer or cop who interviewed the three Queensland corona girls had consequently attracted a complaint of racism, and the girls’ travel had later proved legit, their woke employers would have thrown them to the wolves. Publicly.

    And every airline employee and cop knows this.

    So here we are.

  16. Makka

    I know lots of South Africans and none were farmers.. As for politics…the ones I know are mainly right-wing….about eighty percent.

    In mining I’d say it’s higher % than that Cassie.

  17. Hmm okay but how are IT skills transferable?

  18. Top Ender

    ‘The Australia-ASEAN Power Link project…I’m reasonably confident this concept was obliterated by more knowledgeable people here some time ago..

    Nonsense KD.

    What is needed is an extension cable about five metres across.

    Courage man!

  19. Makka

    OJT dotty. Make it a contractual requirement. Do you mean that IT skills can’t be learned? Really?

  20. 1735099

    They never apologise for any of their disasters….open borders….boats smashing on rocks…..pink bats.

    The Coalition still haven’t apologised for Vietnam.
    The Kiwi parliament did so in 2009.
    The Kiwis were all volunteers.
    The Crown apology was bipartisan.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    The women carrying on the way they are, anti male, sexist moles with too much to say as the most pampered humans on the planet, I called cows.
    They are pieces of shit, as are the beta males and left wing men.
    Are they not?

    Here we have Stage 1 walkback.
    “Oh, I was only talking some moley women.”
    Yeah, nah.
    The actual words were “we should never have given the cows the vote”.
    That is, all women.
    Own it.

  22. #3529429, posted on July 30, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    OJT dotty. Make it a contractual requirement. Do you mean that IT skills can’t be learned? Really?

    If they’re so easy to learn then you’d never need any contractors.

    They’re NOT easy to learn.

    Which is why dumb lefties do journalism, and not IT at uni.

  23. egg_

    Nope.
    Google “clown posse”.

    “Rodeo clowns” would also be apt.

  24. Pedro the Loafer

    South Africans and former Rhodesians have done exceptionally well farming hardscrabble country in WA.

    Without generalising, not the politest or friendliest people you might come across in your travels, but they do know how to extract a good living from the land.

    A very welcome trait is that most consider putting their hand out for sit down money from the .gov to be beyond shameful.

  25. IT can be done remotely a lot of the time…

  26. Leigh Lowe

    Legalise Sedition

    #3529427, posted on July 30, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    Hmm okay but how are IT skills transferable?

    IT skills are highly transferable.
    To India.

  27. South Africans and former Rhodesians have done exceptionally well farming hardscrabble country in WA.

    It’s wasteland.

    There are millions of hectares of arable land in eastern Australia.

    Very few Yarpies.

  28. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I know lots of South Africans and none were farmers.. As for politics…the ones I know are mainly right-wing….about eighty percent.

    The South Africans I know, living in rural Western Australia are mainly right wing, and they don’t have much time for BLM.

  29. 1735099

    7:30 Report claiming the Ruby Princess debacle was the result of a Border Force misinterpretation of an email.
    Negative Flu tests results on an email were mistaken for Covid tests.

  30. IT skills are highly transferable.
    To India.

    Actual IT work, not “web scraping” PDF files.

  31. Makka

    dotty,

    I’m absolutely certain we have sufficient Aussie IT talent here to fill the need over 3-4 yr visa period The allowance of a temp foreign contractor would be to give the investor some comfort in getting his asset established successfully.

  32. Perth Trader

    I’d give free immigration to asian laundry type people…..my wife hates washing and ironing and I love all my clothes ironed. Even my hankies.

  33. Boambee John

    Mitch M

    I’m staggered by this because it indicates a stunning hypocrisy and strongly suggests the exercise has been reduced to rhetoric and vote grabbing.

    Waddya mean “reduced to”? That’s all it ever was, with a nice flow of cash to the Big Men on the side.

  34. Makka

    Bluddy hell, the indigenous round.

    Vomit!

  35. Top Ender

    For anyone interested in revisiting the physics of the Very Big Cable to Singapore From Darwin Project, this ABC – of course – article has some of the specs.

    Apparently the cable is only 30cm across.

    And a Very Big Battery will be built as Darwin.

    This will help in “stabilising the city’s unreliable power supply”. First thing I knew. We didn’t even lose power in Cyclone Marcus a few years back.

    But the project will also “transform remote Indigenous communities that rely on polluting diesel generators for much of their power.”

    Therefore it must be a Good Thing.

    BTW the project will use “the largest battery anywhere in the world, it’s about 300 times larger than the largest battery at the moment.”

    I will call bollocks on this one right now, and bet a carton of beer (winner’s choice) against the first three takers, that it will not supply power to Singapore by 2027 as promised.

  36. Mater

    The Coalition still haven’t apologised for Vietnam.

    You’ve got/getting your “financial apology”, Bob.

    1735099
    #3324953, posted on February 16, 2020 at 8:54 am

    I regard my taxpayer funded DVA benefits which help me and mine and other ex-service personnel who were conscripted to “live well” not as “revenge”, but as a form of financial apology from the ignoramuses who voted Coalition from 1960 until 1972.

    What more do you want? Hollow words from politicians who didn’t have any part to play in it?
    Just shut up and “make sure you take advantage of whatever repat benefits are available”. Isn’t that what your Dad advised?

  37. zyconoclast

    I don’t believe you.
    Do you have video evidence?

    If I searched for it, I would probably end up on some p0rn site.

    This is fun viewing

    WATCH: Cheerleader Beats Down ‘Bully’ in Viral Fight Video

  38. Cassie of Sydney

    “The Coalition still haven’t apologised for Vietnam.
    The Kiwi parliament did so in 2009.
    The Kiwis were all volunteers.
    The Crown apology was bipartisan.”

    How stupid of the Kiwis. But since you are still so obviously shattered, upset and traumatised about Vietnam, after almost half a century, why don’t you take it up with your local member? Or if the local member is not receptive to a doddery old fool called Bob bothering him…..why don’t you organise a petition for a federal parliament “apology”. Go on…be brave. Oh that’s right…you don’t know how to be brave. You weren’t brave fifty years ago and you’re not brave now.

  39. Pedro the Loafer

    Saffas I have worked with in the mining game were almost exclusively far to the right of Genghis Khan.

    A lot of their former country’s apartheid politics were seriously entrenched in many of them, but to their credit, most mellowed out after a few years.

  40. https://ia.acs.org.au/article/2019/the-tech-talent-shortage-is-real.html

    With Australia requiring an extra 100,000 tech workers (REALLY!?) by 2024, Infosys’s VP of Australia and NZ, Ashok Mysore, said the ever-shifting technology landscape is making it harder to maintain a viable talent pool.

    Universities have even begun combining IT with humanities in order to provide students with wide-reaching knowledge bases.

    Oh god no! Stop it!

  41. Makka

    IT can be done remotely a lot of the time…

    Yeah, IT townies say that all the time. Except it’s often bullshit.

    I’m advocating the IT specialist only for the investment start up period. Not for PR or immigration.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Coalition still haven’t apologised for Vietnam.

    Did the North Vietnamese?

  43. The Coalition still haven’t apologised for Vietnam

    They should apologise for not winning, perhaps for not committing enough resources.

    They should never refuse for fighting that war.

    Conscription was bipartisan in WWII.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3529333, posted on July 30, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    Ted

    This is a libertarian site with right wing leanings. 5% of commenters here would be in that category. The rest is a broad spectrum of social conservative socialists, agrarian socialist imbeciles, racist idiots, klu klux Klan members, social credit idiots and retards like you.

    Do I have to pick just one?

  45. Bluddy hell, the indigenous round.
    Vomit!

    Of which sport do ye speak?
    As far as I can see, the only remaining men’s sports are: Rodeo, Campdrafting, Polocrosse, Bareknuckle boxing, Illegal Street Racing, Woodchopping, Coal Shovelling, Barramundi fishing, and The Golden Shears.

    Which of these has the “indigenous round”?

  46. Tel

    It’s wasteland.

    There are millions of hectares of arable land in eastern Australia.

    I’m a technologist and an engineer so I believe all land is arable, given sufficient brute force. Buy more fertiliser ya numpties! Buy explosives if you are farming on rock and need to break the surface.

    Ya of course I’m talking up my book … buy buy buy.

  47. they should never apologise

    This spellwrecker…just intolerable!

  48. Makka

    League. Yeah I agree, it’s been too feminine since they banned the biff!

  49. Leigh Lowe

    Makka

    #3529449, posted on July 30, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    Bluddy hell, the indigenous round.

    Vomit!

    Been a lot of gag reflexes here today.

  50. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Coalition still haven’t apologised for Vietnam.

    Why should they?
    The communists were exhausted and SE Asia was saved.
    That’s a pretty good outcome Numbers.
    And we let in a lot of fine people who fled Ho’s gulag salesmen.
    Fish and chips, and fresh bread, yum!

  51. Pedro the Loafer

    I just ducked out to feed the hound who has been looking reproachfully at me for the last half hour, and in the meantime that monomaniacal old goat from Toowoomba drops in to shit all over the thread about V****** from 50 years ago.

    Go to bed Gramps, the sun has gone down.

  52. I’m a technologist and an engineer so I believe all land is arable,

    It is, just the same as all land is viable mining paydirt – except for the small matter of yield over inputs.

  53. Been a lot of gag reflexes here today.

    I imagine KD looks like Nick Cage.

    Oh god not the phrasing!

  54. Geriatric Mayfly

    Coal Shovelling,
    Which of these has the “indigenous round”?

    As close as you will get.

  55. JC

    Okay, the croc Dundee persona raises its ugly head this evening.

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob, 3.23;

    ‘History doesn’t repeat, but occasionally it rhymes.’

    Plagiarism. Again.

  57. Boambee John

    Numbers, you’re back!

    Have you had any success finding a genuinely democratic communist state? Or are you now willing to admit that the concept is just a fantasy, dreamed up in your fevered mind?

  58. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The Coalition still haven’t apologised for Vietnam.’

    Old Yeller – if Scomo apologises for Veitman tomorrow, can we have all our money back?

  59. Fisky

    4. Ensure ASIC fucks off.

    5. Eliminate capital gains taxes.

    6. Reduce building code regulations to ensure land prices fucked with.

    All of these measures taken together will cause a colossal property price boom with low quality 2 million dogbox flats as far as the eyes can see. The result – less loanable funds available for small business.

  60. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m a technologist and an engineer so I believe all land is arable, given sufficient brute force. Buy more fertiliser ya numpties!

    I’m with you Tel. I drove Ncl-Townsville once. I was struck by how much is bush, all the way along the highway. Three days of driving: mostly bush.

    In China, every speck of land would be cultivated. Water? We have technology for that. Will? Nope, we don’t. Politicians should be made to till the land and reap a useful crop to sell, it would be an education for them.

  61. Fisky

    Did the North Vietnamese?

    No, they haven’t yet apologized for destroying the economy of South Vietnam and causing 1 million people to flee for their lives. Maybe they should!

  62. Boambee John

    7:30 Report claiming the Ruby Princess debacle was the result of a Border Force misinterpretation of an email.
    Negative Flu tests results on an email were mistaken for Covid tests.

    Does the bin chicken expect anyone here (other than himself) to defend bureaucratic incompetence?

  63. Knuckle Dragger

    Aaaaaaaaand segue.

    Liability Bob may be compared to an urban fauxborigine.

    Plenty of yap, ran a hundred miles from actually doing anything, knows little or nothing about the actual concept, plays the victim and demands reparations.

  64. All of these measures taken together will cause a colossal property price boom with low quality 2 million dogbox flats as far as the eyes can see

    What? We’re going to see supply increase and the price will go up?

    The result – less loanable funds available for small business.

    Only because you assume prices go down with more regulation and taxes, which is nonsense by definition (“taxere”, ‘to take’).

  65. stackja

    It seems the angry private can’t handle the truth. Scrolling, scrolling…

  66. Perth Trader

    Listening to the radio today and I’m amazed by the number of West aussies against Clive and all for closed borders. …’opening the borders will kill granni’ is the callers biggest concern . FMD

  67. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Stimpy, good to see you.

    Only to you could I say that in the department of life to which you seem to allude Hairy and I do very well with each other. Years of practice makes perfect.

    He’s definitely a meat man. Cooking some steaks as I lie here prostrate on the sofa watching Bolt.

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    Okay, the croc Dundee persona raises its ugly head this evening.

    I can do birds JC.
    I can do possums.
    I can’t do buffalo though.

  69. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I imagine KD looks like Nick Cage.’

    Archer.

    Doppelganger.

  70. Makka

    I’m amazed by the number of West aussies against Clive

    Huh? How long have you been in WA?

  71. Perth Trader

    …..against Clive taking his closed border case to the high court….

  72. 7:30 Report claiming the Ruby Princess debacle was the result of a Border Force misinterpretation of an email.
    Negative Flu tests results on an email were mistaken for Covid tests.

    Readin’ writin’ & havin’ a brain aren’t strong points of Border Force.

  73. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3529494, posted on July 30, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    ‘I imagine KD looks like Nick Cage.’

    Archer.

    Doppelganger.

    Hmmm.
    Send photos.
    Usual drill.
    One in the evening dress, one in the swimsuit.

  74. JC

    All of these measures taken together will cause a colossal property price boom with low quality 2 million dogbox flats as far as the eyes can see. The result – less loanable funds available for small business.

    There are two types of real estate booms.

    1. The Texas model, where the boom is seen through an increase in production – builders build on more land with little price change.
    2. The California model, which is what we have. Demand for housing is allocated through price and in a boom the price goes up.

    Ensuring we adopt the Texas model wouldn’t result in your prediction. Texas also has no income tax.

    Ironically, the cities and states with the highest tax rates have to highest real estate prices in the US.

    Fisk, you should ignore houses as in buildings and focus more on why the price of land rises. We essentially don’t experience appreciation on buildings. In fact they depreciate like everything else. We have a problem with land prices.

  75. Knuckle Dragger

    The wheat industry, in NW Vic and the SA Mallee at least was kept alive by the Chermans, some of whom have been there since the 1893 drought, and a whole pile more of the filthy Boche after WW1.

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Send photos.
    Usual drill.’

    I’ll post them on The Website.

  77. Leigh Lowe

    Perth Trader

    #3529498, posted on July 30, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    …..against Clive taking his closed border case to the high court….

    High Court?
    What is he doing that for, when he could just wait for a Sovereign Uprising ™.

  78. Fisky

    What? We’re going to see supply increase and the price will go up?

    Reducing ASIC oversight will goose property prices more than any conceivable supply side measure can affect. Removing capital gains taxes will only encourage more property market speculation. That’s two demand side measures that will considerably boost property prices.

    We can abolish any number of building codes, but all we will get is more lower quality high-density housing, like Mascot Towers.

  79. Perth Trader

    I think the high court will make a decision quicker…..most of the sovereigns are busy watching ‘footy’…

  80. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3529504, posted on July 30, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    ‘Send photos.
    Usual drill.’

    I’ll post them on The Website.

    Wait.
    Which one?
    The Currency Dollars Thieving Act (2020) site?
    The Superannuation Redirection to Commie Projects Plan website; or
    The AK47 Re-assembly instructional site?

  81. Tel

    With Australia requiring an extra 100,000 tech workers (REALLY!?) by 2024, Infosys’s VP of Australia and NZ, Ashok Mysore, said the ever-shifting technology landscape is making it harder to maintain a viable talent pool.

    Pushing down wages by importing people instead of providing a decent education for Australian born kids.

    Of course it’s only the most portable industry in the whole world so makes sense that Infosys’s VP of Blah Blah Blah can’t come to grips with the basic idea of working remotely.

    Universities have even begun combining IT with humanities in order to provide students with wide-reaching knowledge bases.

    Oh god no! Stop it!

    Lol … OK I take it back, wages of real engineers are still looking fairly safe. Let’s hope not too many Australian students are suckered by that one. Sheesh … any moderately motivated teenager can learn IT simply by buying a bit of basic equipment and an Internet connection.

  82. Dr Faustus

    I’m reasonably confident this concept was obliterated by more knowledgeable people here some time ago.. Energy loss in the cable over distance, or somesuch.

    Lots of huge technical problems. Plus the biggy; coercing Singapore to rely on powering its economy off a tottering mountain of risk founded on an Australian social enterprise scheme.

    However, the point that attracted my interest is the Government boosting the whole obvious mess as somehow being a covid recovery project. In 10 years time we will be relying on overseas aid from the Solomons.

  83. Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – Real estate prices in US and Oz are chalk and cheese because of differing bankruptcy laws.

    In the US if a home owner is underwater on their mortgage, by law they can hand their keys into the bank and walk away. Then negotiate a new loan to buy their own house back from the other foreclosing bank at half price. Just imagine what that does to real estate values. This was happening very often in 2008-9.

    Here if you have a mortgage it is disconnected from the house, except as a forecloseable asset. And even then you are still responsible for the full loan amount. Bankruptcy is really really shitty in Oz. So people tend to work their bums off in two or three jobs to keep up payments and pay off their mortgages. As a result the house prices don’t collapse regularly here like they do in the US.

    You listen to Steve Keen, you will do you dough. He doesn’t understand Australian law and psychology.

  84. Perth Trader

    I wonder what happened to Clives $15k a day eastern bloc lady , financial adviser …cough , cough’ , his wife did’t know about.

  85. will

    7

    :30 Report claiming the Ruby Princess debacle was the result of a Border Force misinterpretation of an email.
    Negative Flu tests results on an email were mistaken for Covid tests.

    This sounds like lying by omission. Further questions should have been asked.

  86. Nick

    Wait.
    Which one?
    The Currency Dollars Thieving Act (2020) site?
    The Superannuation Redirection to Commie Projects Plan website; or
    The AK47 Re-assembly instructional site?

    Neither. The Hello Lovely Lady dating site.

  87. JC

    Reducing ASIC oversight will goose property prices more than any conceivable supply side measure can affect.

    ASIC requires corporate governance reporting that’s basically a socialist greens manifesto. I was discussing the banks, although we should later on. Can’t be bothered now.

    Removing capital gains taxes will only encourage more property market speculation. That’s two demand side measures that will considerably boost property prices.

    Why would it? Removing capital gains would bring the cap gains to zero, which is the same as for the family home. In fact, applying your argument about the impact of taxes, the current system would place more pressure on housing because the family home is cap gains tax free while other forms of investment aren’t.

    We can abolish any number of building codes, but all we will get is more lower quality high-density housing, like Mascot Towers.

    Okay, be the glass is always half empty type guy.

  88. Neil

    He also taxed the crap out of everyone to achieve this “feat”.

    OK i am still waiting for some evidence that Howard/Costello taxed the crap out of people to get their surplus budgets. The usual allegation is that the Howard/Costello tax cuts destroyed the budget for Rudd/Swan

  89. So what you’re saying Neil is you buy the leftist tripe about Howard being a free market fanatic.

  90. JC

    In the US if a home owner is underwater on their mortgage, by law they can hand their keys into the bank and walk away.

    That isn’t the case in every state, Bruce. In some states that’s the case while in others they can go after you the same as here.

  91. JC

    this should read..

    I wasn’t discussing the banks, although we should later on. Can’t be bothered now.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    The Hello Lovely Lady dating site.

    OK.
    So I just googled that.
    Lordy, Lordy, me.
    Does anyone know how to delete browsing history on an i-phone?

  93. Neil

    So what you’re saying Neil is you buy the leftist tripe about Howard being a free market fanatic.

    I am waiting for some evidence that Howard/Costello ran surplus budgets because they taxed the crap out of people like you stated

  94. JC

    The Hello Lovely Lady dating site.

    Anyone ever watch the show, Hello Ladies? It’s very funny. The tall lanky, awkward IT geek never ends up getting a date while his dwarfed and slightly deformed out-there buddy is always taking home a good looking gal.

  95. Mater

    I’m reasonably confident this concept was obliterated by more knowledgeable people here some time ago.. Energy loss in the cable over distance, or somesuch.

    Just that little run from Tasmania to Victoria:

    Basslink has declared it has successfully reconnected its undersea power cable, almost six months after it failed, allowing Hydro Tasmania to begin sending back more than 80 diesel generators.

    The Basslink Interconnector, the world’s second-longest subsea cable, has been down since December, leaving many Tasmanians without energy and internet services. The fault in the cable was discovered 90.5km from the Tasmanian coastline and removed and capped on Easter Sunday, three months after going down.

  96. rickw

    All of these measures taken together will cause a colossal property price boom with low quality 2 million dogbox flats as far as the eyes can see. The result – less loanable funds available for small business.

    Easily tempered by dragging every single council planning department outside and shooting them.

    Thus ending the artificial restriction on supply of land and buildings.

  97. zyconoclast

    This sounds like lying by omission. Further questions should have been asked.

    Que SloMo to tell the questioner not to be so mean.
    You make make the answer-er cry.

  98. Tel

    We can abolish any number of building codes, but all we will get is more lower quality high-density housing, like Mascot Towers.

    You dislike slums?!? You stuck up, snooty, so-and-so … probably wacist too.

  99. JC

    Bruce

    The operational procedure manual when talking about the US is to never assume anything and always be prepared to unknow what you think you know. The place is a fucking maze of complexity.

    Just fucking imagine issuing mortgaged backed securities in that freaking zoo of legal morass.

  100. Boambee John

    The bin chicken just luurrrves Cuba.

    During the 1980s, many Cuban soldiers were sent to Namibia to fight in the civil war there. Were any of these soldiers conscripts? What would the bin chicken’s reaction be to Cuba having sent conscripts to fight in a civil war far from Cuba?

    PS, some of these soldiers returned to Cuba with AIDS. Rumour has it that those men were all sent to an island near Cuba, to prevent the spread of AIDS into the wider population. If this rumour is true, would that be part of the wonderful Cuban health system!

  101. rickw

    We can abolish any number of building codes, but all we will get is more lower quality high-density housing, like Mascot Towers.

    This isn’t about building codes, it’s about poor quality construction.

    In the end would self regulate.

    You don’t think purchasers in Mascot Towers aren’t going to be suing the shit out of the builder?

  102. 132andBush

    If it wasn’t for expat South Africans and New Zealanders, the Australian wheat industry would have ground to a halt thirty years ago.

    Say what, Zulu?

  103. Castro used blood from executed prisoners to make blood “donations” to various globetrotting commie insurgents wounded in battle.

    That’s some sick shit.

  104. “Acknowledging Country” is no longer enough in the ACT Legislative Assembly.

    From today, the Acknowledgement of Country said at the start of each sitting will be in Ngunnawal language. The latest step in our reconciliation with the Ngunnawal, it marks a first in Australian parliamentary history

    Wonder what’s the penalty for a mispronunciation?

  105. Knuckle Dragger

    Namibia.

    Clearly an existential threat.

  106. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    We should never have given Orangutans the vote.

    Another of St Gough’s mighty achievements. Not quite a miracle though. Of course the grateful simians returned the favour by unfailingly voting for the ALP. Funnily enough, one of their descendants is now the head of the ARM*.

    Hence his persuasive advocacy for an Australian Banana Republic.

    *Yes, yes, they all look the same to me.

  107. JC

    Give him some time, Bush. Rones is currently wading through his library looking for the “sauce”.

  108. cohenite

    There are different categories of foreclosure and bankruptcies in the US which require different waiting periods before being able to repurchase any house. The bankruptcy code is a federal one.

  109. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What would the bin chicken’s reaction be to Cuba having sent conscripts to fight in a civil war far from Cuba?

    What would be the bin chickens reaction be to North Vietnam sending conscripts to fight the evil debbil debbil Americans in South Vietnam, and discovering that the enemy also included Vietnamese?

  110. Bruce of Newcastle

    That isn’t the case in every state, Bruce. In some states that’s the case while in others they can go after you the same as here.

    JC – Because that is the case in most states it means real estate values collapse in the US nationwide, unlike here.

    That’s because if house prices collapse in hand-your-keys-in states all the other states follow, since Yanks up and move much more than they do in most countries. If you can get a job in another city whilst knocking 200 grand off your mortgage you tend to do it in the US. Not so much here.

    Btw, I acknowledge the traditional owners of Cafe Bruce in this comment, my brushtail possums.

  111. It is self evident that Howard was chief of government, of our national government, and had and still have usurious levels, rates and ubiquitous streams of taxation in this country.

    The proof: just list all of the taxes we have, in the next column write down the rates.

    Now impute these rates to the total/gross pay, the total wage bill or on costs or even net pay to someone on welfare, the minimum wage, average wage or in the top tax bracket. Now tell us what their EMTR actually is. Now work out how many hours a week you work to pay for the taxes extracted off your wages bill.

    Ignorance isn’t an argument.

    We are tax slaves because we’ve been socialist since 1972.

  112. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Nick at 8:25 pm:

    ” Wait.
    Which one?
    The Currency Dollars Thieving Act (2020) site?
    The Superannuation Redirection to Commie Projects Plan website; or
    The AK47 Re-assembly instructional site?

    Neither. The Hello Lovely Lady dating site.

    Stick around – after today’s exciting news I suspect pre-opening rehearsals may recommence here shortly, they are usually at 2300 or so. Then again they may not and the only thing on offer will be sad lovey dovey song clips.

  113. Fisky

    You don’t think purchasers in Mascot Towers aren’t going to be suing the shit out of the builder?

    They can’t do that because builders are only liable for about 7 years after completion. Another great victory for “deregulation”!

  114. Done Deal

    Bundyrum
    #3529263, posted on July 30, 2020 at 6:16 pm
    Does anybody on this blog think the public should have input via referendum on important issues for our country… eg immigration, multiculturalism, power production….etc.

    👌✔ Absolutely 100% agree. Guarantee this country would be turned around 180 degrees. That’s why it won’t happen unfortunately. Naïve easy going Aussies left the gate open years ago and the horse has well and truly bolted.

  115. Leigh Lowe

    ZK2A.
    I firmly believe that many Saffie expats aren’t huge fans of BLM.
    I don’t doubt that.
    Maybe not a good thing.

  116. JC

    JC – Because that is the case in most states it means real estate values collapse in the US nationwide, unlike here.

    Bruce, since ww2 I’d say the chart for each national market would show and equal number of falls. IT’s not that many.

    That’s because if house prices collapse in hand-your-keys-in states all the other states follow, since Yanks up and move much more than they do in most countries.

    It’s not as easy as you think. It impacts the credit score, which means you’re fucked getting a loan for a long time. It also effects job prospects because employees do look at your credit score when hiring.

    If you can get a job in another city whilst knocking 200 grand off your mortgage you tend to do it in the US. Not so much here.

    I bet the drift has been as pronounced here too. The 70’s and 80’s were marked by people from southern states moving north particularly to Qld. Since then there’s been a drift back to Melbourne in a pretty decent way.

    Btw, I acknowledge the traditional owners of Cafe Bruce in this comment, my brushtail possums.

    I’m an original owner from the Olympic Dam tribe, so I acknowledge myself.

  117. Neil

    It is self evident that Howard was chief of government, of our national government, and had and still have usurious levels, rates and ubiquitous streams of taxation in this country

    So tax was low under Hawke/Keating. Increased under Howard/Costello from 1996-2007. Then has been lowered since 2007???

    Do you have any evidence for your allegations?

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Too much bush everywhere on the current drive to Qld, Bruce. Enforced green-policed planting out ofwhat used to be arable land or open pastures with beautiful vistas, often to the sea.

    My other major impression from the drive was how well-watered our whole East Coast is, from the Shoalhaven in Sydney’s southern coastline to the Brisbane River. Hairy and I counted our way up over the amazing and wide northern rivers sending uncountable Sydney Harbour amounts out to the sea constantly. Counting only the big catchment rivers (there are smaller ones, some of them tributaries), we have a super-abundance of water that would be the envy (and infrastructure projects) of many other dry and less blessed countries, we have in order of traverse the Hawkesbury, Hunter, Myall, Manning, Hastings, Macleay, Nambucca, Bellingen, Clarence, Richmond and the Tweed. Each one a miracle of beauty and freshness.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just fucking imagine issuing mortgaged backed securities in that freaking zoo of legal morass.

    Yup.

    In Unprecedented Move, Congress Proposes Taxpayer-Funded Bailout Of $550 Billion CMBS Industry (29 Jul)

    For Cats a CMBS is a corporate mortgage backed security:

    The bill would set up a government-backed funding vehicle which companies could tap to stay current on their mortgages. It is meant in particular to help those who borrowed in the $550 billion CMBS market in which mortgages are re-packaged into bonds and sold to Wall Street. What it really represents, is a bailout of the only group of borrowers that had so far not found access to the Fed’s various generous rescue facilities: and that’s where Congress comes in.

    So the Purple Party in the US Congress is going to bail out all the mortgages that companies have taken out, to the tune of half a trillion bucks. Trump won’t be able to veto because both sides are supporting it. Is that corrupt or what?

  120. Boambee John

    struth

    Further to my comment about the consent of the governed, let me borrow some ideas from an American writer, Philip Bobbitt.

    He wrote some years ago about societies falling into two groups. There are societies governed by consent, and societies ruled by terror. Until about 15 to 20 years ago, Australia was largely governed by consent, now it is to a great degree ruled by terror. Our objective must be to return to the former status. The term sovereign nation does not make this difference clear.

  121. Left wing fake gamers bitch about Israel and whine about da Palis.

    Kotaku Australia: Israel Wants To Use Xbox Controllers In Its Tanks, Which Is Horrifying.

    https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/07/israel-wants-to-use-xbox-controllers-in-its-tanks-which-is-horrifying/

    What’s horrific is Farfour the Mouse being adored by kids who didn’t know any better.

  122. JC

    Dot

    He was a prick at school and will die a prick. Just a fucking arsehole.

    I emailed him a several years ago when he said something that really pissed me off. I forget what it was. I reminded him of who I was and we went to school together and I said I assumed he would remember – particularly the couple of hidings he received. I told him I didn’t regret it because he was a turd then and even more so at the ABC. I know the email got through because it wasn’t pinged back from the ABC.

  123. Boambee John

    Wonder what’s the penalty for a mispronunciation?

    Given that for years the ACT indigenous community was riven by a bitter dispute about the spelling of their tribal name, I shudder to think.

    The concept of people who had no written language fighting over the spelling of their tribal name is somewhat mind boggling!

  124. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr at 8:42 pm:

    ” “Acknowledging Country” is no longer enough in the ACT Legislative Assembly.

    From today, the Acknowledgement of Country said at the start of each sitting will be in Ngunnawal language. The latest step in our reconciliation with the Ngunnawal, it marks a first in Australian parliamentary history

    Wonder what’s the penalty for a mispronunciation?”

    Years ago in learning my wife’s language and the provincial dialect great emphasis was placed on the words sounding authentic. She and her sisters would not move on to the next lesson until they were satisfied that my sound was “sweet”.

    I listened to that dopey sheila for a minute or so just for fun – she should be told to ace it up and start again, for failing to mumble unintelligibly!

    That Canberra Shire Council is a bit like Saint Jacinda Clip-Clop-Clip-Clop’s New Zealand Municipal Council – not enough to do with their day.

  125. Neil
    #3529558, posted on July 30, 2020 at 8:57 pm
    It is self evident that Howard was chief of government, of our national government, and had and still have usurious levels, rates and ubiquitous streams of taxation in this country

    So tax was low under Hawke/Keating. Increased under Howard/Costello from 1996-2007. Then has been lowered since 2007???

    Do you have any evidence for your allegations?

    This is incredibly frustrating. You assume because I am criticising Howard I MUST be praising Hawke/Keating.

    I am not.

    Taxes in Australia have been very, very high since 1972. I said as much last time.

    The LNP were marginally better than the ALP but now are just as bad.

  126. Bruce of Newcastle

    Each one a miracle of beauty and freshness.

    Lizzie, you left out the lovely Camden Haven River. I grew up next to the Nambucca and Camden Haven rivers. With experience of most of the others. They’re excellent! Finding sapphires in the headwaters of the Clarence was especially fun.

  127. Neil

    Legalise Sedition

    You said this

    In the last election he lost, he was trying to bribe people with foreign aid to Indonesia…for Orang Utans.

    FFS.

    Other than you does anybody else think Howard tried to win the 2007 by giving taxpayers money to help save monkeys in Indonesia???

    Furthermore you stated Howard/Costello taxed the crap out of people to get their surplus budgets. Do you have any evidence for your allegations?

  128. *Do you have any evidence that taxes are high?!*

    Neil.

    Get your head out of your arse.

    I gave you a practical template, do the work.

    Your labour is easily taxed at over 50%.

  129. Jesus Christ.

    A John Howard fanatic.

    I have laid out all of the evidence, repeatedly. He keeps on repeating himself.

    He’s nuttier than the sovereign citizens.

  130. William the Conjuror

    USA COVID-19 update:

    Total cases = 4,568,375
    Total Deaths = 153,845
    Deaths per Million Cases = 33,676

    Home of the grave.

    That’s bullshit. Johns Hopkins:

    Confirmed, current, cases: 4,426,982
    Deaths: 150713
    Ratio: 3.4

    Not your fault Johns Hopkins are late with their numbers. But their deaths per million cases is a little higher; 34,044 -v- 33,676.

    But you have to add recovered cases; which I’ll leave you to add up. Then add an estimate for untested, asymptomatic cases, which WHO estimates at 80% of the confirmed + recovered cases. You end up with a ration of ~ 0.4, higher than influenza, about the same as H1N1 and far less than SARS and much less than MERS.

    No, I don’t have to do that. The only statistic that matters is how many of the infected people die.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Alan Jones now just on about the same thing – but west of the divide. He’s spruiking Lake Argyle in WA and nw Qld’s monsoon

    Way to go.

  132. JC

    Shit, I sent a few emails to Faine. Here’s one in 13.

    Hi Jon:

    Remember me? We went to school together (at Melbourne High) and in the same class for a good part of 4 years. If you recall, I always thought lowly of you and held you in contempt even then, when we were teenagers. Nothing much has changed in adulthood. Do you recall the hiding after one class and then shoving you around in the corridors? I still do.

    You once suggested, to IPA’s John Roskam, you would disclose how much you earn, doing your leftwing partisan schtick while sucking on the government tit, if he revealed the IPA donor list. Well, Catallaxy blog is running a thread where people can disclose giving to the IPA. Yep, I’m on the list.

    See here: http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/11/21/list-of-ipa-donors/comment-page-1/#comment-1081481

    By the way, technically you never really revealed your compensation, as that had to be done by an inside whistle blower at the ABC, who like a load of other people can’t stand the leftwing infestation at the taxpayer funded broadcastor. Good on him/her.

    Regards

    JC.

  133. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Too much bush everywhere’

    1. Things None would never say.

    Did I win?

  134. Neil

    I have laid out all of the evidence, repeatedly. He keeps on repeating himself.

    You have provided no evidence that Howard/Costello ran surplus budgets because they taxed the crap out of people.

    Since 1972 Howard/Costello is the only govt to run surplus budgets and they did that by cutting govt spending

  135. Actually Neil spending increased in real terms.

    They temporarily cut spending as a proportion of GDP.

    The actual tax rates, pitiful spending cuts and actual amount of tax you paid means nothing to you because you have idolised a very mediocre career politician who struggled to get a real job.

  136. Does anyone believe any of the Corona data?

    It’s out and out fraud.

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Do primary school kids still draw maps of Australia with a big wavy caterpillar line in brown going all down the east coast as the Great Dividing Range? We used to do that, with the rivers all in blue, including the inland ones. Then we’d draw in the state borders and the capital cities. We never forgot to add Tasmania either, and to mark out the Nullarbor and the Great Australian Bight.

    We were so proud of our country. The aboriginal kids at our school were equally proud of it. Quite a few of them lived in our local areas. No different to us, we thought.

  138. Steve trickler

    Excellent capture. 0:54.

    He normally jets sets around the world filming volcanoes. China put a stop to that.



  139. Leigh Lowe

    Years ago in learning my wife’s language and the provincial dialect great emphasis was placed on the words sounding authentic.

    I see “aboriginal names” on all sorts of parks and buildings.
    If you sound them out phonetically, some sound suspiciously like pidgin English. I wonder if some public official interviewed tribal elder Aunty Pearl when she was 5/8 in the bag and she made it up on the spot.
    Or possibly Aunty Pearl had a wicked pisstaking sense of humour.

  140. cohenite

    No, I don’t have to do that. The only statistic that matters is how many of the infected people die.

    You can do what you like but people who have recovered and people who are asymptomatic have to be counted as infected.

  141. rickw

    Awesome steam powered mill:

  142. Neil

    The actual tax rates, pitiful spending cuts and actual amount of tax you paid means nothing to you because you have idolised a very mediocre career politician who struggled to get a real job.

    Howard/Costello ran surplus budgets. Something no govt has done since 1972. Since 2007 when we were debt free, govt debt has increased by $400B with nothing to show for that $400B

    I guess we stopped funding monkeys in Indonesia. I am sure that will help the budget

    Still waiting for some evidence that Howard/Costello taxed the crap out of people to run their surplus budgets

  143. cohenite

    Do you recall the hiding after one class and then shoving you around in the corridors? I still do.

    Who gave who the hiding head prefect?

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Or possibly Aunty Pearl had a wicked pisstaking sense of humour.

    When did the trend begin of calling any Aboriginal old enough to vote “Aunty” or “Uncle”, anyway?

  145. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I see “aboriginal names” on all sorts of parks and buildings.
    If you sound them out phonetically, some sound suspiciously like pidgin English.’

    Serious post.

    I have heard, on more than a few occasions in different parts of Straya that explorer/pioneers attempted to find the indig name of a place by asking a local, while pointing at a landmark hill or creek or tree, loudly and slowly, ‘What… Is… This… Place… Called?’

    Which is why, it is said, that quite some number of ‘Aboriginal place names’ are in fact the local indig word for ‘finger’.

  146. Old School Conservative

    What would the bin chicken’s reaction be to Cuba having sent conscripts to fight in a civil war far from Cuba?

    From Wikipedia:
    Conscription is inscribed in the 1976 Constitution of the Republic of Cuba in article 65, stating that “Defense of the socialist homeland is the greatest honor and the supreme duty of every Cuban citizen
    Conscripts were sent to fight in Africa.
    Supreme conflict of ideals here for Plagiarism Bob.

  147. rickw

    They can’t do that because builders are only liable for about 7 years after completion. Another great victory for “deregulation”!

    That’s not deregulation FFS.

    That’s regulation that specifically absolves builders of liability.

    How this can be justified for structural issues is incomprehensible.

  148. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Knuckle Dragger#3529577, posted on July 30, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    ‘Too much bush everywhere’

    1. Things None would never say.
    Did I win?

    Lizzie is ahead of you with her entry:
    “Lotsa Bush & oh so well watered”

  149. Steve trickler

    Hello Ellie. Good to read you are back.



  150. Still waiting for some evidence that Howard/Costello taxed the crap out of people to run their surplus budgets

    The difference between revenue and spending in 1999/2000 was about 2.1% and they averaged a whopping 1.6% of GDP as surpluses.

    So yes, considering the other 98.4% needed to be paid for, and that a couple of years were line ball to breaking even, indeed, Howard and Costello, like all governments elected since 1972, taxed the ever loving shit out of Australians.

    You’re too enamoured with Howard to even look at how much TOTAL tax you pay yourself.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    I can’t say for sure, but I suspect you chaps are straying into an area of poor taste.

  152. Also note that Costello STARTED the Keynesian response to the credit crunch.

  153. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    John Howard left the Parliament 13 years ago. Whether you like it or not he was in the chair during the most prosperous decade in my lifetime and he left the books in good shape, which lasted until the morning after the effete little ponce tiny rudd was installed (because the dopey electorate was bored with relative stability and prosperity). The country has been doomed since that day.

    He is no longer there. Debating John Howard’s and Peter Costello’s performance is as relevant as discussing that of Comrade Great Helmsman Gough and Comrade Jim Cairns (who mooned about like a lost soul after he rooted Junie for the first time – he was 60 and the poor bugger had never experienced anything like it).

  154. Mark A

    Legalise Sedition
    #3529581, posted on July 30, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    Does anyone believe any of the Corona data?

    It’s out and out fraud.

    Two in our immediate family, they are listening to the daily pronouncements of Our Dan and rebroadcasting it a dozen times a day including numbers infected/dead.

    Hard to live with it I must say, spec, for my brother he can’t avoid it, we just stopped visiting my sister and send emoticons in reply to her emails.

    Came as a surprise, I thought both of them were down to earth practical women.
    Live and learn how people behave in a perceived or real crises.

    BTW I’m not taking it lightly myself, having passed the magic 60 I’m in the vulnerable age bracket, but common sense still prevails as far as I’m concerned.

  155. Bruce of Newcastle

    Conscripts were sent to fight in Africa.

    Lots of Cubans fought in the “civil war” in Angola.
    Angola is still a dump as a result, despite oil.
    About 10,000 Cubans currently prop up Maduro the bus driver.
    Commies love to spread their brain disease.

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    (who mooned about like a lost soul after he rooted Junie for the first time

    I’m remembering some of the Junie Morosi jokes “A “Morosi, being a brand of a screw, that held a cabinet together” was one.

  157. Neil

    So yes, considering the other 98.4% needed to be paid for, and that a couple of years were line ball to breaking even, indeed, Howard and Costello, like all governments elected since 1972, taxed the ever loving shit out of Australians.

    Mate haters are going to hate.

    The usual leftie allegations is that the Howard/Costello tax cuts destroyed the budget so when Rudd got elected the budget went from surplus to deficit because of the Howard tax cuts.

    Howard/Costello ran surplus budgets because they cut govt spending something no govt has done since 1972.

    It was the 12% increase in govt spending by Rudd/Swan in 2008 that trashed the budget and it has never recovered

  158. min

    Negative flu tests ? When did they start testing for flu ? I would have thought then it was a prerequisite to have Had a flu injection before travelling. Ruby Princess doctors did not declare Covid 19 passengers according to a person whose friend died.

  159. Boambee John

    I’m remembering some of the Junie Morosi jokes “A “Morosi, being a brand of a screw, that held a cabinet together” was one.

    The longest d1ck in Australia reaches from Cairns to Junie.

    How are you today Jim? Feeling a bit Morosi.

  160. Knuckle Dragger

    On This Day:

    1676 – Rebelling colonists led by Nathaniel Bacon issued the Declaration of the People against the rule of Governor William Berkeley in Virginia. (wiki)

    They did not consent.

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Conscripts were sent to fight in Africa.

    Seems Cuban military law didn’t recognise any conscientious objections to military service.

  162. 132andBush

    Leigh Lowe
    #3529600, posted on July 30, 2020 at 9:36 pm
    I can’t say for sure, but I suspect you chaps are straying into an area of poor taste.

    Has someone started talking about cunning Lingus again?

  163. It is sensible to take precautions; but really look at total deaths from respiratory diseases and remember even Palazschuk got caught out claiming some fatty had ‘rona and he actually did not.

    It will magically be cured if Biden wins.

    It’s s real disease but a “scamademic” at the same time.

  164. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Seems Cuban military law didn’t recognise any conscientious objections to military service.

    Before getting too carried away with this, we should make contact with a support group of Cuban conshies, to get a comparison on the ins & outs of having been a conshie in the People’s Paradise.

  165. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How are you today Jim? Feeling a bit Morosi.

    Pay that one, Boambee John.

    Did you hear the one about the Gough Whitlam political pack from K.F.C? All left wings and ar$eholes.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    Has someone started talking about cunning Lingus again?

    Dunno.
    Bundysock accused me of performing foccacia on an LNP member (snort, cackle).
    Which is same, same, but different.

  167. cohenite

    The Mars explorer just cracked 17000 mph. What a triumph for Trump.

  168. jupes

    Still waiting for some evidence that Howard/Costello taxed the crap out of people to run their surplus budgets

    Were you then, or are you now, happy with the amount of tax you payed to support the surplus budgets?

    I wasn’t, and I still aren’t.

  169. Fat Tony

    Legalise Sedition – you have to be patient with Neil – a dog bit him once and he didn’t have a gun to defend himself. He hasn’t been “right” since.

  170. Fat Tony

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3529619, posted on July 30, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    Did you hear the one about the Gough Whitlam political pack from K.F.C? All left wings and ar$eholes.

    We used to call that the Gough Box from KFC

  171. Neil

    Were you then, or are you now, happy with the amount of tax you payed to support the surplus budgets?

    I wasn’t, and I still aren’t.

    So tax has decreased since 2007??

    We have not run a surplus budget since 2007 because govt spending has increased not because taxes have been reduced

  172. JD

    Tel
    #3529511, posted on July 30, 2020 at 8:17 pm
    With Australia requiring an extra 100,000 tech workers (REALLY!?) by 2024, Infosys’s VP of Australia and NZ, Ashok Mysore, said the ever-shifting technology landscape is making it harder to maintain a viable talent pool.

    If it is Infosysy, you will need that many people! The number of software implementation failures these guys are responsible for are legendary. Everytime I have to be in a project that has an outsourced Infosys or any the other outsourced big name… I quote Brook’s Law (modified): If it takes one woman 9 month to make a baby, it does not mean that nine women can make one in one month 🙂

    The standard of graduates from Information systems courses in our Universities are pathetic, especially if they are not from an Engineering school. Those from Engineering schools who teach Systems Engineering and/or embedded programming are far better ‘tech workers’. 10 to a 100 times better than Infosys. So, yes, we need skilled Tech workers (not tech coolies). But we need 1000s at most. And don’t get me started on the ACS!

  173. Fat Tony

    Has anyone seen Neil and John Howard in the same room??

  174. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Brother of coronavirus-infected teen at the centre of Queensland’s COVID-19 panic claims she’s being targeted because she’s black – as infuriating footage shows her casually buying a cocktail moments after being tested

    Olivia Winnie Muranga, 19, and Diana Lasu flew into Brisbane on July 21
    All travellers from Victoria were banned from entering Queensland from July 9
    Women allegedly entered Sunshine State with a friend by flying in via Sydney
    Three women were charged with providing false information on declarations
    Footage has emerged of Muranga casually ordering drink at cocktail bar
    The video was filmed in the hours after 19-year-old was tested for COVID-19
    Her brother meanwhile has conceded her actions were a ‘f***ing mistake’
    But claimed the criticism she was receiving was worse because of her race

    Daily Wail. Yep, play the race card.

  175. zyconoclast

    Ashley Judd Can Sue Harvey Weinstein for Sexual Harassment, Court Rules
    The ruling reversed a lower court’s dismissal of one of the claims brought by the actress against the now-imprisoned movie mogul.

  176. mh

    Her brother meanwhile has conceded her actions were a ‘f***ing mistake’
    But claimed the criticism she was receiving was worse because of her race

    What is her race?
    Ray Hadley told Neil Breen on 4BC that the girls are not African.

  177. The Beer Whisperer

    I have laid out all of the evidence, repeatedly. He keeps on repeating himself.

    You have provided no evidence that Howard/Costello ran surplus budgets because they taxed the crap out of people.

    Since 1972 Howard/Costello is the only govt to run surplus budgets and they did that by cutting govt spending

    The Gliberals did a lot wrong, but not giving more money to Rudd to piss up against strippers was not one of them.

  178. Neil

    Has anyone seen Neil and John Howard in the same room??

    I am a fan of Howard/Costello. Since 1972 there is only one govt to run surplus budgets and reduce govt debt- Howard/Costello. Also the only govt to reduce unemployment.

    If you think you can do better, enter Parliament and show us how it is done

  179. jupes

    So tax has decreased since 2007??

    Income tax has I believe. However I do know that tax was too high then and it is too high now.

    So, answer the question. Were you then, or are you now, happy with the amount of tax you payed to support the surplus budgets?

  180. The Beer Whisperer

    Tel
    #3529511, posted on July 30, 2020 at 8:17 pm
    With Australia requiring an extra 100,000 tech workers (REALLY!?) by 2024, Infosys’s VP of Australia and NZ, Ashok Mysore, said the ever-shifting technology landscape is making it harder to maintain a viable talent pool.

    Total bullshit. An extremely successful Australian bank routinely took sub-standard sub-continentals to perform critical roles, but was never influenced by the labour rates being 1/10th of the price. They took grunt labour at a fraction of the price, knowing that actual experts paid standard wages would make up the slack.It was criminal, everyone knew it, but nobody said a thing.

  181. Maj

    I thought Vic judges were soft on crime?

    Dixon memorial vandal loses appeal bid

    The “utterly stupid” vandal who graffitied the memorial of murdered woman Eurydice Dixon has failed in an attempt to get out of prison, despite an extraordinary appeal for mercy from Dixon’s father.

    Andrew Nolch disgusted the entire country when he painted a lewd symbol at the memorial of Eurydice Dixon before a vigil in her honour, Court of Appeal reserve justice Mark Weinberg said on Thursday.

    But Jeremy Dixon, the father of the comedian whose 2018 rape and murder in Princes Park rocked Melbourne, wrote in an affidavit that it caused him “further distress” to know Nolch was serving a prison sentence.

    Eurydice Dixon was murdered by 19-year-old Jaymes Todd, who is serving a minimum of 35 years in prison, when she was walking home through the park on June 13. Her death brought an outpouring of community grief and shock.

    Ten thousand people attended the vigil in Princes Park on June 18, 2018 to honour her and send a message that women should be safe in the street. Nolch targeted that sentiment with his obscene graffiti of a 25 metre by five metre penis painted onto the oval grass directed at the memorial.

    Nolch told police he vandalised the memorial because he wanted to annoy feminists and see if he could get on the news.

    Dixon’s father said he found the graffiti “repulsive” and he rejected and reviled Nolch’s views.

    But he said he was “against a term of imprisonment” for Nolch as punishment because he wanted good things to stem from his daughter’s life.

    “I do not want part of her legacy to involve unnecessary imprisonment with the evil consequences that may follow,” he said.

    “I do not want the applicant‘s imprisonment to be a part of my daughter’s story and her legacy. I want good things to stem from her life.”

    Justice Phillip Priest said that while he respected Mr Dixon’s right to view prison as “inherently evil”, it wasn’t possible for a court to take that into account.

    Justice Weinberg said Nolch had offended against the entire community with his actions and had “strange, bizarre views” that you “wouldn’t use the term erudite” to describe.

    Nolch was first fined about $20,000 and put on an 18-month community corrections order by the Melbourne Magistrates Court in September 2018 for the charge of criminal property damage. He appealed this, and in March 2019 the County Court also sentenced him to an 18-month community corrections order (CCO).

    But he landed himself back in front of a judge in May this year for travelling overseas twice for holidays despite not being allowed to leave Victoria while on a CCO. He also on five occasions didn’t show up for the unpaid work he was ordered to do.

    Justice Weinberg said Nolch had been “utterly stupid” and should have “thanked his lucky stars at the benevolence of the sentence that was first imposed”.

    Nolch was sentenced to five months prison in May and on Thursday failed in his bid to appeal that sentence.

  182. Neil

    So, answer the question. Were you then, or are you now, happy with the amount of tax you payed to support the surplus budgets?

    Howard ran surplus budgets by cutting govt spending. The only way to run surplus budgets.

    Most Lefties say the Howard tax cuts destroyed the budget so when Rudd won govt the budget went into deficit

  183. cohenite

    Lame pics good.

    And I can wake up to Tom’s toons, which will take the edge of the troll.

  184. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    … with his obscene graffiti of a 25 metre by five metre penis painted onto the oval grass directed at the memorial.

    Nolch told police he vandalised the memorial because he wanted to annoy feminists and see if he could get on the news.

    Is this serious?
    He drew a 100-square metre dick on grass, & is now in jail?

  185. Fat Tony

    Neil
    #3529641, posted on July 30, 2020 at 10:21 pm
    Has anyone seen Neil and John Howard in the same room??
    If you think you can do better, enter Parliament and show us how it is done

    Neil – that statement indicates your fuckwittery. You couldn’t be Costello – he had a few brains.
    Howard pissed off enough people with his gun confiscation and his Workchoices to lose.

  186. jupes

    Watched Bolta tonight and his panel consisted of Jacinta Price and John Howard’s man; Graham Morris.

    First question on the “Closing the Gap” announcement: Jacinta Price agreed with Bolta that it will do nothing more than keep violent Aborigines who attack women and children out of jail. Morris the Liberal hack, reckoned it was a good start and that Ken Wyatt had a lot of “enthusiasm” or some such shit. Bolta was gobsmacked but Morris was just warming up.

    Next question on Biden. Bolta showed a couple of embarrassing clips of Biden losing his train of thought and asked if he should be president. Morris reckoned he’d prefer him to Trump. Jacinta disagreed. Bolta then gave a few examples of Trumps success e.g. pre-Wuhan viras levels of Black unemployment, economic figures and foreign policies against China. Morris reckoned (paraphrased), that demeanor was more important than actual policies and that Trump was rude.

    Another incite (if one was needed) into the appalling political class in this country.

  187. The Beer Whisperer

    Legalise Sedition
    #3529554, posted on July 30, 2020 at 8:55 pm
    JC

    Jon Faine has an article in The Age.

    The Age: Daniel Andrews needs to seriously consider locking people up.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/daniel-andrews-needs-to-seriously-consider-locking-people-up-20200730-p55gwa.html

    Merit aside, government incompetence enables government oppression. It’s the perfect circular reasoning.

  188. Ellie

    Take away the pain. Please.

  189. Neil

    Neil – that statement indicates your fuckwittery. You couldn’t be Costello – he had a few brains.
    Howard pissed off enough people with his gun confiscation and his Workchoices to lose.

    The topic was Howard/Costello taxing the crap out of people to get their surplus budgets. Fact is Howard cut govt spending to get a surplus budget. Something no govt has done since 1972 other than Howard/Costello from 1996-2007

  190. The Beer Whisperer

    Morris the Liberal hack, reckoned it was a good start and that Ken Wyatt had a lot of “enthusiasm” or some such shit. Bolta was gobsmacked but Morris was just warming up.

    Next question on Biden. Bolta showed a couple of embarrassing clips of Biden losing his train of thought and asked if he should be president. Morris reckoned he’d prefer him to Trump.

    Sounds like a Morris Minor, in terms of intellect. Any Gliberal batting for the enemy should be subject to membership review at the very least.

  191. jupes

    So your answer to the following question:

    Were you then, or are you now, happy with the amount of tax you payed to support the surplus budgets?

    Is this:

    Howard ran surplus budgets by cutting govt spending. The only way to run surplus budgets.

    Most Lefties say the Howard tax cuts destroyed the budget so when Rudd won govt the budget went into deficit

    You are either a troll or a moron. Either way, fuck off.

  192. Maj

    Is this serious?
    He drew a 100-square metre dick on grass, & is now in jail?

    It’s Victoria. What else would you expect?

    Soft Judges are only for the Leftists.

    Anti-feminists are given the Stasi treatment.

    The only thing I didn’t expect is how Justice Mark Weinberg joined the pile on (or maybe even led the pile on?)

    I didn’t think he was the kind of Judge to be suckered into joining the expected feminist outrage.

  193. Morris reckoned (paraphrased), that demeanor was more important than actual policies and that Trump was rude.

    Reheheheally?
    This would be the same Graham Morris who said..

    Graham Morris on Leigh Sales:
    “Well, Leigh can be a real cow sometimes when she’s doing interviews,”
    Graham Morris on Julia Gillard:
    Australians “ought to be kicking her to death.”
    Graham Morris on the Irish:
    the Irish “are people who can’t grow potatoes, who have a mutant lawn weed as their national symbol and they can’t verbalise the difference between tree and the number three”

  194. notafan

    Weinberg was ruling on the CCO breaches, not the original offence he was convicted of, wasn’t he?

  195. Infidel Tiger King

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
    8:46 PM · Jul 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

    Delay a constitutionally enshrined law?

    What an absolute dickhead Trump is sometimes. It’s this sort of garbage that norms will not miss.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    the Irish “are people who can’t grow potatoes, who have a mutant lawn weed as their national symbol and they can’t verbalise the difference between tree and the number three”

    What did the Irish ever give Australia bar Ned Kelly and the Labor Party? They can’t even distill drinkable whisky, they have to leave that to the Scots.

  197. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Maj at 10:30 pm:

    “…

    The “utterly stupid” vandal who graffitied the memorial of murdered woman Eurydice Dixon has failed in an attempt to get out of prison, despite an extraordinary appeal for mercy from Dixon’s father.

    But he landed himself back in front of a judge in May this year for travelling overseas twice for holidays despite not being allowed to leave Victoria while on a CCO. He also on five occasions didn’t show up for the unpaid work he was ordered to do.

    Justice Weinberg said … “utterly stupid” and should have “thanked his lucky stars at the benevolence of the sentence that was first imposed”.

    Nolch was sentenced to five months prison in May and on Thursday failed in his bid to appeal that sentence.”

    That vacuous smirk will be more a grimace after several months of being passed around Loddon or West Melbourne.

    He’s 30 and he did the graffiti because he wanted to be famous. With any luck he’ll have the bowel control of your average pelican when he graduates.

  198. Infidel Tiger King

    Michael Beschloss
    @BeschlossDC
    ·
    15m
    Never in American history—not even during the Civil War and World War II–has there been a successful move to “Delay the Election” for President.

    Trump is a disgrace.

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Who is this cunning person called Lingus?

    If you are intending to mention any sort of cunning linguist then you should say so.🍷

    And so to bed. Night, Stimpy and the rest of youse.

  200. He’s 30 and he did the graffiti because he wanted to be famous. With any luck he’ll have the bowel control of your average pelican when he graduates.

    Mick of GC, I’m the last to advocate light sentencing – but he drew a 100-square metre dick on some grass.

    His sentence is out of all proportion to almost any sentence I’ve ever seen, in Victoria or elsewhere.
    He needed taking in hand by a couple of constables for a “robust counselling”
    Not a criminal record & several months in Jaika Jaika.

  201. Infidel Tiger King

    Michael
    @lampidicsparrow
    US GDP -32.9%

    One third of the US economy obliterated.

  202. MatrixTransform

    nigh nigh, you crazy old witch

  203. Neil

    You are either a troll or a moron. Either way, fuck off.

    Howard ran surplus budgets by cutting govt spending. Something no govt has done since 1972.

    I was commenting on the wrong statement that Howard ran his surplus budgets by taxing the crap out of people. Howard actually reduced taxes

  204. Bruce in WA

    Mark A … not “lame” pics at all. I love ’em! Thank you.

  205. MatrixTransform

    One third of the US economy obliterated.

    brokers
    takers
    fuck ’em

    only makers matter

  206. JC

    Artie

    That’s the annualised rate. It’s how this stat is reported over there. Divide by four and that‘s the fall quarter to quarter. It’s a quirk on how they post some of these stats.

  207. Infidel Tiger King

    Oh that’s okay then.

    German GDP had 10.5% wiped off.

    The Krauts are in so much trouble. Good.

  208. Bruce in WA

    Was asked to “look over” my granddaughter’s assignment in English today. She’s in Year 9.

    This is exactly what the teacher wrote:

    “Compare how the construction of the protagonist in 1984 and Tomorrow When the War Began reflect [sic] their respective contexts of production”.

    As far as I’m concerned (as a former English specialist), if they can decipher that gobbledegook at all, they deserve a pass mark!

  209. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just a word now about Series 3 of Norsemen for those giggling their way through series 1 and 3.

    Series 3 acts as a flashback in which you get the back story of all the characters you have known and loved so far. But Rufus the captured Roman who holds the story together in series 1 and 2 does not appear until he does – in episode five in this flashback tale. In compensation for this lack, the back story of the psychopathic Gollum-like Jarl Vagg holds this series to the narrative very well.

    I’m telling you this now so you aren’t completely bemused and in the dark for the first few minutes of this final series when the actors look vaguely the same but contextually different. On the net the comment is that it should have been called series 0, but I wouldn’t recommend viewing it first. You have to know what comes after in order to make sense of what comes before.

  210. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oops . Typo .. at the start – …through series 1 and 2 not 1 and 3

  211. Pedro the Loafer:

    I just ducked out to feed the hound who has been looking reproachfully at me for the last half hour, and in the meantime that monomaniacal old goat from Toowoomba drops in to shit all over the thread about V****** from 50 years ago.

    What we have here is a genuine example of an obsessive compulsive, Pedro. And I’m not talking about the dog.
    Watch and learn as to how a single episode in a young mans life can create a groove in their mental synapses deeper than the Grand Canyon.

  212. Yesterday and today I learnt:

    1. Having sex with a piece of plastic can be….child abuse.
    2. Drawing a cock on grass is the same, at least morally as accessory to murder after the fact.

    Heaven forbid loose definitions of words at law would ever result in bizzare legal outcomes.

    With concepts on the books likes absolute liability and mandatory minimum sentences, what could possibly go wrong?

  213. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh, and Rufus appears in the final episode number 6 in series 3, not episode 5.

    Now that you’re all suitably confused I will leave it at that. A tiring day and I am limping bedwards.

  214. JC

    Euro takes off through 1.18 against the buck on it way to 1.25.. I think.

    Buy euros wear diamonds doesn’t see to have the dame ring to it.

  215. Mick you can’t be serious.

    A bloke “vandalised” grass near a monument to an unfortunate young woman who was raped and murdered. A dumb choice, distasteful but…?

    So he deserves to be serially raped until he constantly shits himself a few months later as a free man?

    Mick

    Let me introduce you to the concept of male disposability.

  216. JC

    The kraut who designed this should be freaking executed. Their carmakers are going to the dogs. They just can’t help themselves. Skip a generation or two and the place goes into autistic spasms.

    Look at this thing. In fact don’t.

  217. rickw:

    Easily tempered by dragging every single council planning department outside and shooting them.

    I think forcing random audits on these departments/employees may just be a jolly fine idea, as well.

  218. Legalise Sedition:

    Now work out how many hours a week you work to pay for the taxes extracted off your wages bill.

    Does anyone know what day is Tax Day? – i.e. the day we stop paying taxes and start keeping our own money?

  219. Mark A #3529603, posted on July 30, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    Two in our immediate family, they are listening to the daily pronouncements of Our Dan and rebroadcasting it a dozen times a day including numbers infected/dead.

    Mark, any point in highlighting other ‘costs’? Rita Panahi said the usual suicide figure for 2020 was likely to be not 3000 but 3750…4500. The flu stats for 2019 are floating around although I cannot recall them right now.

    The bottom line does not bear out the panic.

  220. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr at 11:24 pm:

    ” He’s 30 and he did the graffiti because he wanted to be famous. With any luck he’ll have the bowel control of your average pelican when he graduates.

    Mick of GC, I’m the last to advocate light sentencing – but he drew a 100-square metre dick on some grass.

    … sentence is out of all proportion … .
    He needed taking in hand by a couple of constables for a “robust counselling”
    Not a criminal record & several months in Jaika Jaika.”

    He got the soft sentence treatment a couple of years ago and since, he has surely earned what he got this time Salvatore, this was his third go.

    The fop looks like a Jemimah and he’s a Victorian to boot. There’s six months in that alone.

    He painted the penis adjacent to a dead girl’s memorial just hours before 10,000 people gathered at the park for a vigil to dead Miss Dixon, to “… cause as much outrage as possible …” to protest against feminazism and vaccination (???) and because he wanted to be famous. Nolch told police: “I wanted to see if it could make the news. I wanted … just to see the dick on the screen, I just thought that’d be funny.”

    In 2018 the magistrate-ess gifted the funny little funster an easy 18-month community corrections order, 200 hours of community work and a $20,000 fine to repair the damage (which he is most unlikely to have paid, I’d put the rent money on that). A County Court judge also did not send him to the slammer.

    He didn’t turn up to chip weeds or sit under a tree (which is usual) for his community work half a dozen times. He went overseas several times, to the Philippines and Thailand, which he was forbidden from doing. A judgette sentenced him to five months for that. Painting on the grass was incidental by this point.

    The Court of Appeal refused his bid to appeal within hours of the hearing. The court ruled a five-month term was moderate. The appeal judge threw in a couple of remarks about him being stupid.

  221. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Legalise Sedition at 11:46 pm:

    “Mick you can’t be serious.”

    I read the background to the matter Dot, I trust now you can see why I expressed that view.

    He helped himself to several free servings and expected ice cream and topping each time.

  222. C.L.

    IT, while I agree Trump’s delayed election Tweet is prima facie stupid – Americans, after all, went to the polls during the War of 1812 and the Civil War, WWII etc – it does raise an interesting moral and constitutional question. Namely: was it ever intended by the Founding Fathers that an election for President could or should take place that was determined preponderantly by mail? Obviously: no.

  223. The fop looks like a Jemimah and he’s a Victorian to boot. There’s six months in that alone.

    Ironclad argument right there Mick.

    Yeah, I don’t disagree with you. He’s in jail for not respecting the Magistrate (a very serious crime).

    Then again, we’d be here all night were we to start discussing cases of people who breached parole/release conditions & there wasn’t any meaningful penalty.

    His original offence was extremely offensive & deliberately so. However sentencing for “offence” seems to be based on politics or emotion. I’ve seen far, far worse done, & no judicial penalty whatsoever.

    He can blame only himself for being in jail.

    His crime was drawing on grass, causing tears. I look forward to seeing some of Mosqueborne’s more kinetic offenders serve some time.

  224. Infidel Tiger King

    I think all postal votes should be banned.

    It’s your civic duty to turn up. No excuses except serving in the military.

  225. JC

    Trump’s clear signal is that the Demonrats will steal the election through fraud. The other part about delaying is typical nonsense bluster from the Orange oaf. No one takes that shit seriously.

  226. JC

    Look, the only hope in this election is that the fraud is potentially nixed by both sides equalizing on the fraudulent votes cast.

  227. Infidel Tiger King

    He is President. Time to act like one and man up.

    Whining and being a beta is an awful look.

    It’s Strong horse time.

  228. JC

    And straight onto it are the intrepid reporters at CBS.

    CBS News
    @CBSNews
    BREAKING: President Trump just floated the possibility of delaying the date of the 2020 election, but he does not have the authority to do so

    No, he doesn’t.

    But what’s the take away from the tweet.

    Citing the expansion of mail-in-voting, Mr. Trump claimed the upcoming election “will be the most inaccurate & fraudulent election in history” and a “great embarrassment to” the United States.

    That’s his point.

    The ironic thing is that GOP supporters know the Demonrats will commit tons of voter fraud. They will too to counteract it.

  229. JC

    The Orange oaf is running pizza ads now?
    WTF

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Support Patio Pizza and its wonderful owner, Guy Caligiuri, in St. James, Long Island (N.Y.). Great Pizza!!! @Varneyco

    There’s been nothing like him. Ever.

    Trump is God.

  230. Infidel Tiger King

    WTF?

    Trump was having a very good week and now he is going psycho again?

    Delete Twitter you loon.

  231. Infidel Tiger King

    Herman Cain just dies from China Flu.

    He was a great man.

    Meanwhile Trump is spruiking pizza.

  232. Infidel Tiger King

    Herman caught the bug at a Trump Rally.

    This is going to be awful for Trump.

  233. Top Ender

    Arnhem Land man on child sex charge
    AMOS AIKMAN

    Police have charged a 51-year-old man from the heart of Arnhem Land with serious child abuse ­offences after an investigation triggered when an underage girl tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease.

    Police will allege the abuse began when the girl was about five years old and continued “over several years”.

    Mulayarpa Munungurr, also known as Malcolm Munungurr, appeared in Darwin Local Court on Thursday, where he was ­denied bail and remanded in ­custody.

    His lawyer, Patrick Coleridge, told the court he had been unable to obtain detailed instructions from his client because of Mr Mun­ungurr’s poor grasp of English. “I can see that there appears to be at least partial admission to the offences,” Mr Coleridge said.

    Mr Munungurr is understood to be from one of Arnhem Land’s tiny homelands, a community of about 150 people, and related to at least one famous Aboriginal ­artist.

    Northern Territory police announced the charges in a joint statement with the Australian Federal Police.

    The statement accused the man of “sexually abusing a young girl over several years”.

    “An investigation was launched in May after a young girl was diagnosed and treated in the Northern Territory for a sexually transmitted infection,” it said. “She spoke to police about incidents in 2019 and 2020 where a man known to her family allegedly sexually assaulted her twice.

    “Police will allege that on a third occasion, this year, the man attempted to sexually assault her again but she fought back and he let her go.”

    NT Child Abuse Taskforce members identified historical offences, and police will allege the man first sexually assaulted the girl in 2012 and 2013 when she was aged about five, and he was in his mid-40s.

    NT CAT officers arrested Mr Munungurr on Tuesday. He faces one charge of sexual intercourse or gross indecency involving a child under 10 years, two similar charges involving a child under 16 years and another charge of ­attempted sexual intercourse without consent.

    The first and most serious charge carries a maximum penalty of 25 years in jail. The others carry maximum penalties of 16 years and 14 years respectively.

    AFP Superintendent Paula Hudson said in the statement that her organisation and NT Police would be “relentless in their pursuit of anyone who preys on children”.

    “Sexual abuse causes irreparable trauma; it steals a young person’s innocence and their childhood,” she said.

    “We understand how difficult it can be to report any incidents to police but we would urge anyone out there who is a victim, or a witness, to any form of sexual abuse — know we are here and we can help.”

    NT Police Detective Daniel Kowalewycz said investigators would collaborate with Territory Families, the child protection agency, “to identify and prosecute anyone who harms children in our community”.

    “We will not tolerate this abuse and will do everything possible to protect our kids from this abhorrent behaviour,” he said.

    Mr Munungurr sat silently throughout the proceedings.

    The judge noted there was a presumption against bail and the accused could be a flight risk.

    Mr Coleridge said his client appeared without a “prior relevant record”.

    The case will return to court in September for a mention.

    NT News

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