So what has the Donald ever done for us then?

A reply provided in a comment on a brilliant Don Aitkin column. I don’t know what the ??? signify, I am just posting the list:) I have no idea if it is all good, or even if the list is accurate. Just sayin’.   I would like to see a clear account of the deregulation that he pursued, both by winding back existing regulations or refusing to allow new regulations.

THE COMMENT

POTUS 45 is the first president in 240 years to have actually delivered all that was promised. EVERY. SINGLE ONE. POTUS 45; the greatest living human!
In a scant four years these stand as a few of his accomplishments:

* Trump recently signed 3 bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.
* Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.
* Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.??
* Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the 2 years before he was elected.
* Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.??
* Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.
* Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.
* Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.
* Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.??

THAT IS ABOUT 10% OF THE LIST, I HAVE DELETED THE REST, SEE THE LINK

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54 Responses to So what has the Donald ever done for us then?

  1. zyconoclast

    1. Waste of time and money. Allows for more trouble in the future.
    2. Good.
    3. Not his business.
    4. Good but I expect the First Steps Act will reverse this in future.
    5. Good.
    6. Not his business.
    7. Good.
    8. Good.
    9. Good

  2. Oh come on

    *All* promises kept? How about build the wall and have Mexico pay for it?

    This is an elephant in the ointment. I’m not full Ann Coulter – on Trump’s watch, a lot of existing wall which was really derelict and practically useless has been fortified and is now a decent barrier, and that does count for something. I also believe there is now some new wall (although not that much). But it’s a long way from being built. And this was his campaign’s very first promise, his signature promise, and so he should have moved on it right away and delivered it (or a VERY decent chunk of it) with bells on. He hasn’t done that.

    Nor has Mexico paid for the wall. That is an indisputable broken promise, no matter how you slice it. No attempt has even been made to get Mexico to pay for the wall, either. Lots of good suggestions – put a levy on remittances to Mexico, for instance – but no.

    So every promise kept? “Every. Single. One.”? Not true.

  3. Mooka

    The people who hate Trump do so because the media have told them that they must. Pavlov was a rank amateur compared to the MSM.

  4. Oh come on
    #3529621, posted on July 30, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    And this was his campaign’s very first promise, his signature promise, and so he should have moved on it right away and delivered it (or a VERY decent chunk of it) with bells on. He hasn’t done that.

    The man isn’t a dictator. It also makes it very difficult when congressman in your own party actively oppose your “signature campaign promise.”

    There are more than 700 miles of border wall currently being built or have already been built, Department of Homeland Security acting secretary Chad Wolf told Breitbart News in an exclusive interview.

    In an interview at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Saturday, Wolf broke down the construction of the wall on the southern border into three categories, telling Breitbart that there is 126 miles of wall that is already built, 200 miles of wall that is being built, and 400 miles of wall that is in the pre-construction phase.

    “We are building the border wall system on the southwest border,” Wolf said. “So, this is new infrastructure, new capability on the southwest border that our border patrol agents have never had before, and it’s under this administration that we are building new wall systems along the southwest border.”

    President Donald Trump’ signature campaign promise, the construction of the wall on the southern border, has taken many years to finally get completed due to red tape and bureaucratic interference. Mark Morgan, the acting commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, recently said that the wall in El Paso has reduced illegal immigration by 80 percent.

    Speaking to Congress on Feb. 27, Morgan said the wall “does deny and impede long enough for Border Patrol agents to actually get there to do the apprehension and interdiction. And it works.”

    Previous reports have claimed the actual number of newly constructed miles of wall is 54, while 55 additional miles of the wall have been replacement fence.

    However, there have been non-wall construction policies the Trump administration has implemented that have reduced illegal immigration. One such policy is the “Remain in Mexico” agreement. The program is an agreement between the United States and Mexico and three Central American countries that Trump initiated at the end of 2018. The agreement says that would-be illegal immigrants caught at the southern border will be kept in Mexico while their asylum claims are evaluated.

    One of the problems with illegal immigration is not necessarily apprehensions. Instead, illegal immigrants caught in the country are given court dates to review asylum claims, known as “Catch and Release.” However, the vast majority do not show up for their court dates.

    The Remain in Mexico program reduced the number of illegal crossings by 70 percent from May to September 2019.

    You can play games with exact wordings and who pays for what, but the fact remains people voted for Trump because they were sick of people walking into the USA thru the Southern border at will. They wanted that stopped and Trump has all but stopped it.
    If the cowardly and crooked RINO’s in congress had fully supported Trump on the wall, he may have achieved the goal (stopping illegal immigration on the Southern border) by doing exactly as he promised during the campaign, word for word.
    But they didn’t support him, so he found different ways to achieve the goal i.e. stop illegal crossings.
    That deserves extra credit in my opinion because it shows he really meant to keep his promise. You don’t seem to recognise that.

    The goal is being achieved despite the fierce opposition from Democrats, RINO’s and actiist judges at every turn.
    That deserves double credits in my book. I can’t think of another politician who has tried so hard to achieve a promise made. Most would have given up and blamed his opponents for the failure.
    Credit where credit is due. It’s due, big time.

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/03/700-miles-of-us-mexico-border-wall-built-or-being-built-dhs-says/

  5. NoFixedAddress

    What other person saved the Western Worlds MSM.

    I just love the way the Disney Brand is home to Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap.

    And I swoon in admiration of Nike using “a football legend” to sell slave manufactured products to American Black Lives Matter folk.

    And the heroic politicians from California like Nancy (let them eat icecream) Pelosi, Dianne (what person wouldn’t have a Chinese helper) Feinstein or Adam (what bribery) Schiff.

    To think people are worried if Joe (I don’t worry about anything except Trump) Biden takes his rightful place.

  6. NoFixedAddress

    So what has the Donald ever done for us then?

    He twittered that maybe the election should be postponed as the virus is so bad.

    And I laughed and laughed and laughed.

  7. Colonel Crispin Berka

    The list appears to be a copy+paste from another web site written in April.
    https://frankreport.com/2020/04/18/one-hundred-twenty-five-amazing-accomplishments-of-president-donald-j-trump/

    Some attempts at debunking it are in (or linked from) reddit.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/gultfe/please_help_me_fact_check_this_list_of_trump/

    eg, someone pointed out the new airport breastfeeding requirement was sponsored by Democrats Senator Tammy Duckworth, not a Trump creation at all. Kinda throws doubt on the entire list when you’ve got an example of Trump taking credit for a Democrat proposal.

  8. Herodotus

    Obviously a man dangerous to the leftist narrative, someone who must be expelled from office.

  9. Iampeter

    LOL, this list doesn’t even have a single item that would be considered right-of-centre and you’re celebrating this? Reads like a list any average democrat would implement. EPA game $100 mil to fix infrastructure? Really? How is this a serious post?

    Here’s some more items for your list of Trump’s “achievements:”
    Regulating immigration like an old-school democrat.
    Regulating trade and bringing back tariffs which is too left wing even for most moderate democrats today.
    Impeached over amateur-level corruption with the Ukraine, but not removed from office because he’s corrupted the entire republican party too.
    Pulled America out of Syria to protect his business interests in Turkey.
    Just the tip of the iceberg of the brazen corruption happening there.
    Cowardly appeased both Russia and China resulting in the loss of Hong Kong.
    Unprecedented cowardly appeasement of North Korea – the first American President to give the leader of that insane nation TWO meetings. A huge win for North Korea and a total loss for America and the West.
    Failed to act on COVID-19 as per CDC requests, resulting in global panic and lockdowns.
    Threatens CEO’s and private enterprise over Twitter.
    Started an economically illiterate and completely left wing global “trade war.”
    Calls for zero dollar interest rates and “big and bold” government infrastructure projects.
    Has signed off on spending that breaks all records of human history put together and keeps calling for more.
    And so on and so forth. Basically a more left wing President than Obama by all the key metrics. Even Biden wouldn’t be this bad.

    Oh and in terms of promises:
    No wall.
    Hillary not in jail.
    Obamacare not repealed.

    Anyone who supports Trump and doesn’t realize this makes them pretty left wing, simply doesn’t know anything about politics and has no idea what’s going on.
    There’s no recovery for the conservative movement from this.

  10. Mark M

    “Reads like a list any average democrat would implement.”

    That would explain why Obama/Biden had already done it.

  11. Rafe Champion

    One of his failures was his endorsement of extensions to the ethanol mandates and subsidies to favour corn growers. Not doing that would have immediately cost him about five corn states in the mid-west. So he could have stayed strong on the ethanol issue and lost the next election there and then.

    We can be pure but politicians have to opt for the lesser of evils all the time.

  12. Iampeter

    Snap!

    That wasn’t a snap. That was embarrassing beclownment, raising a point that shouldn’t need any clarification and evading everything that’s being said.
    It’s just cringe at this point.

    One of his failures was his endorsement of extensions to the ethanol mandates and subsidies to favour corn growers

    Why would that be a failure if you think Trump’s EPA giving $100 million to Michigan is a success, for example?

  13. Rex Anger

    What does it matter to you, Petey?

    You decided long ago, that the Evilbad Orange Man was Evil. And Bad. And Orange. And a Man. Which makes him Evilbad and Orange, etc. And not a single leftist (i.e. every other Cat) infesting this right-wing blog would ever convince you otherwise. Cos tjey’re all Evilbad too. And probably closet Christianists. And thus all Evilbad too, etc…

    Trying to engage rationally with you on this subject is akin to trying to convince an off-med paranoid schizophrenic to stop screaming at and headbutting the lamp post he’s been doing his best to intimidate for the last 5 days.

    Furthermore, actual rational and Pro-West (or at least Pro-American) voters decided that Donald Trump was their best chance of having a country left to have a life in. Regardless of the programmed insanity that has followed, he has more or less carried through on this ideal.

    Not bad for a fanatical ‘leftist,’ particularly in light of what the real leftists (whom we all know you consider to be ‘Right’) have tried to pull in their temper tantrums.

    Keep screaming at your lamp post Petey. There’s at least another 4 years to go.

    4 more years of easily punishable arsehattery by the IamToFoolForSchool the Marxist Moby. It’s a good time to be a Cat… 🙂

  14. Bruce

    What, no aqueducts?

    No “Loaves and Fishes” moments, either. As for “lifters and leaners / makers and takers”,…….

    However, there is a snippet of “State Department humour” doing the rounds:

    .”Donald Trump goes on a fact finding visit to Israel. While he is on a tour of Jerusalem he suffers a heart attack and dies. The Undertaker tells the State Department officials accompanying him, “You can have him shipped home for $50,000, or you can bury him here, in the Holy Land, for $100.”

    The State Department officials go into a corner and confer for a few minutes. They come back to the undertaker and tell him they want him shipped home. The undertaker is puzzled and asks, “Why would you spend $50,000 to ship him home, when it would be wonderful to be buried here, and you would only spend $100?”

    The State Department types reply, “Long ago a man died here, was buried here, and three days later he rose from the dead. We just can’t take that risk.”

  15. Astatine Jones

    I have no idea if it is all good, or even if the list is accurate. Just sayin’.

    Sounds like a bad advertising campaign aimed at selling a product regardless of its true worth!

  16. The BigBlueCat

    Furthermore, actual rational and Pro-West (or at least Pro-American) voters decided that Donald Trump was their best chance of having a country left to have a life in. Regardless of the programmed insanity that has followed, he has more or less carried through on this ideal.

    I agree. Trump is not perfect, but way better than the alternative that Iampeter prefers. Trump is a legitimate capitalist and fiercely an individualist. The only reason some of his actions can be seen as leftist is that he is also a realist – he needs to do some of the dance for some of the people to garner some of their support by making a deal. But that doesn’t make him a Marxist.

    Should Trump lose (unlikely) the next election to Biden, the US will get Marxism from government good and hard. The left will be so emboldened that we will see actual Socialism become the norm in many states, and probably from the federal government too. If you think you’ve seen unrest in 2020, it will be true carnage come a Biden presidency. The sad part of that is that everyone will lose (just ask Venezuela).

  17. Iampeter

    Should Trump lose (unlikely) the next election to Biden, the US will get Marxism from government good and hard.

    The sheer detachment from reality of Trump supporters is the funniest thing of all.
    This is going to be a hilarious election as conservatives support a candidate that is more corrupt, crazy and left wing than effing Biden!

  18. The BigBlueCat

    The sheer detachment from reality of Trump supporters is the funniest thing of all.
    This is going to be a hilarious election as conservatives support a candidate that is more corrupt, crazy and left wing than effing Biden!

    Yet Biden is an actual leftist that you support … let’s talk about “unhinged” shall we …

    Yes, it will be hilarious should Trump win again. I hope you’re wearing your Poise when that happens. Mind you, actual non-leftists will be gnashing their teeth should Biden win – him winning wouldn’t be funny at all. And it doesn’t matter who Biden is up against from the Republican side. That you think conservatives would be upset by a “left-wing Trump” winning shows an inconsistent narrative from you – you think conservatives are leftists anyway! The least you could do is get your own story straight! But it’s also surprising that someone as “right-wing” as you claim to be, prefers Biden at all (an actual leftist in a leftist party). You should surely be looking for a candidate with policies more in line with your own … oh, wait …

    I actually don’t support Trump in any tangible way – I’m not a US citizen so I can’t vote, and I don’t donate to his re-election campaign. I only “support” hime because he’s against the Democrats, and he’s the only candidate that has some worth since the Democrats would be disastrous (just think of an emboldened Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler or Schumer in power). That you think differently along with your declared preference for Biden says more about you than anything else. It’s strange that we don’t hear any meaningful criticism of Biden or the Democrats from you – it’s all Trump, Trump, Trump …. now, why is that? Biden or Democrats are not left enough for you?

    Biden and his son Hunter haven’t had much airplay since the sham impeachment trial. I suspect we will hear more about Biden & Son, Burisma, the Ukraine and China the closer we get to November 3. Plus we already know a lot about sleepy, creepy, corrupt, dementia Joe’s support for the green new deal despite him being mentally unable to string more than one sentence together. And you think Trump is the mentally defective one? You think Trump is further left than Biden? There is no-one further left than Biden (until AOC gets old enough for a run at POTUS that is) !! Spare me!

    As I say, Trump isn’t perfect, but he’s no Marxist and he isn’t crazy. Trump is a capitalist and is fiercely an individualist. Plus he’s a fan of Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged! (so he’s supposedly one of yours). But he does generate “Trump Derangement Syndrome” in others, including you; you’re keeping us entertained for hours!

  19. Iampeter

    Yet Biden is an actual leftist that you support … let’s talk about “unhinged” shall we …

    I don’t support Biden, I’m just saying he’s not as bad as Trump.
    But since you support Trump you can’t oppose Biden because “he’s a leftists” or something.

  20. DAVID JACKSON

    To paraphrase, What have the Romans ever done for us?…. history repeats.

  21. The BigBlueCat

    I don’t support Biden, I’m just saying he’s not as bad as Trump.
    But since you support Trump you can’t oppose Biden because “he’s a leftists” or something.

    And I’m saying that Trump isn’t perfect and nowhere near as bad as Biden … Biden is from the party of the left, Trump is from the party of the right. Trump is more from your side (Capitalist, individualist, Ayn Rand fanboy, Atlas Shrugged! fanboy, etc.).

    I don’t claim to be right-wing – I’ve always claimed to be centre-right. So I do oppose Biden on most things. Trump is more aligned to my preferences than Biden; he’s more aligned to yours too (unless you really are a Marxist). It’s not a perfect alignment – nothing ever is, as well you know.

    Anyway, good to see the TDS is alive and well in you … there’s another 5 minutes of hilarity you’ve provided. Trump is living inside your head – just where you want him to be.

  22. NoFixedAddress

    The BBC

    You have to remember that IAP prefers the one was robbed of her rightful place in history than Trump.

  23. Lee

    Only a complete loon would argue that the capitalist (not a negative factor in my opinion) Trump is more left wing than Biden, or any Democrat candidate for that matter.
    If anyone wrote or commented that Trump is left wing on a left wing site, he or she would be laughed at in derision.

  24. Rex Anger

    It’s all good NFA.

    IamARagingArsehat is a very unimaginative caricature of a Randist ‘libertarian.’ Given the utter inconsistency it displays, I am increasingly convinced it is either run by a team of Political Science (Majoring in Applied Marxism and TDS Studies) students, or IamPeter lets all its little Peters (if it has any) have unfettered access to its computer password and internet privileges.

    Seriously, look at the juvenile name-calling that passes for its ‘contributions’ here, versus the spectacularly presented wrongology and near-flounces on anything related.to liberalism, Christianity, Peter Ridd or ‘muh freedoms.’

    IamSufferingMultiplePersonalityDisorder’s trolling has been appallingly inconsistent of late. I am deeply disappointed that I have compared him favourably to M0nty….

  25. The BigBlueCat

    IamARagingArsehat is a very unimaginative caricature of a Randist ‘libertarian.’

    He’s a Randian cultist and displays all the symptoms of being one. Given the number of times/people have disagreed with him, I truly wonder why he keeps coming back. Surely it can’t be “rational self-interest” or “altruism” (if he really is an Objectivist, that is). But he amuses me …. for one, he says that conservatives are left-wing, but then says they’ll be upset should a left-wing candidate win. You can’t make this stuff up ….

  26. Rex Anger

    Given the number of times/people have disagreed with him, I truly wonder why he keeps coming back.

    It strengthens my theory about IamNotActuallyPeterAtAll being a shell troll account run by a group of Political Science students, or other hacks.

    What better way to determine how the Hated Other thinks than Reconaissance By Fire? Spit off something obviously wrong, sling a few infantile insults and see what response is drawn. I’m wondering if the Cat has been the source of some excellently-marked dissertations… 😉

  27. Richard Bender

    Space force an accomplishment? It’s a an accomplished wasted of money, I guess. How are its horses keeping the US safe?

  28. Cardimona

    It strengthens my theory about IamNotActuallyPeterAtAll being a shell troll account run by a group of Political Science students, or other hacks.

    Ha! I was once accused of being a group of university students for my climate realist letters to editors!
    It’s an argument that seems to work either way.

  29. Rex Anger

    Ah Cardimona,

    But your actions and reactions are consistent, are they not?

    Look at the difference of language between, say the Go Fund Peter Ridd thread and here.

    Almost as if 2 different people were writing.

    And then there’s Richard Bender, who has tried to snort a crayon and managed to insert it rectally instead. Sideways.

    Coincidentally, the language and nature of the sneer-n-smear response he’s picked almost perfectly matches Petey’s posts.

    Hmmm…..

    *Conspiracy intensifies*

  30. Cardimona

    Yeah, I see what you mean, Rex.
    I’d been scrolling him for so long I’d forgotten.

  31. Hodor

    Thread is getting better by the minute.

    KAG. 2020

    Gotta love orange.

    He he

  32. Rex Anger

    @ Hodor.

    + Winning

    😉

  33. John A

    The BigBlueCat #3530379, posted on July 31, 2020, at 5:17 pm

    IamARagingArsehat is a very unimaginative caricature of a Randist ‘libertarian.’

    He’s a Randian cultist and displays all the symptoms of being one. Given the number of times/people have disagreed with him, I truly wonder why he keeps coming back.

    He gives me good practice at using the scroll wheel. I just don’t feed the trolls, or pay the troll toll.

  34. Iampeter

    Only a complete loon would argue that the capitalist (not a negative factor in my opinion) Trump

    But only a complete loon would think Trump is a capitalist.

    I know it’s hard for people who don’t know anything except talking points to grasp, but you are now supporting policies and people more left wing than the people you refer to as “left wing.”

  35. The BigBlueCat

    But only a complete loon would think Trump is a capitalist.

    Bwahahahahahahaha … stop it … my ribs hurt!

  36. Lee

    If Trump isn’t a capitalist then no one is, IamAShillForTheDemocratParty.

  37. Iampeter

    Trump brought back tariffs, regulates immigration, started a “trade war,” threatens CEO’s and private enterprise over twitter, has signed off all record breaking spending and is calling for more, is calling for “big and bold” infrastructure projects, etc. Basically even half of what I already listed in this thread.

    The fact that you think this is capitalist is why I refer to people like you as politically illiterate leftists.

    You simply have no clue whatsoever.

  38. Lee

    regulates immigration

    Sure, no other right wing – or even left wing – government in the world “regulates immigration” or imposes tariffs.

    The fact that you can even type such a comment – presumably with a straight face – says heaps about your profound ignorance, IamInFavourOfOpenBordersLikeTypicalLeftists.

  39. Rex Anger

    IamMadderThanACutSnake again picks a stupidly poor hill to die on.

    Poor, silly little team of shills and trolls.

    @ BigBlueCat- New theory. IamAShillForGeorgySoreArseandTheClintonistas is run by a team of paid student trolls. What persuasion is still to be determined. Marxist mocking is sort of workable. Dialectic sets him off, but that is a bit non-specific. No reaction yet to reminding the fool that Saint Ayn Rand hated humour, so it needs to stop causing it. Maybe I should try ‘Taiwan is Number One!’ in Mandarin? Or maybe even Cantonese?

  40. Neil

    I would think Conservative voters believe in borders whereas lefties want one world govt ruled by the UN. Look at what Rudd did to our borders. After abolishing the Pacific Solution, Rudd/Gillard let in 50,000 boat people and have never apologised for costing us $15B on a problem Howard had solved

  41. The BigBlueCat

    @ BigBlueCat- New theory. IamAShillForGeorgySoreArseandTheClintonistas is run by a team of paid student trolls. What persuasion is still to be determined. Marxist mocking is sort of workable. Dialectic sets him off, but that is a bit non-specific. No reaction yet to reminding the fool that Saint Ayn Rand hated humour, so it needs to stop causing it. Maybe I should try ‘Taiwan is Number One!’ in Mandarin? Or maybe even Cantonese?

    Maybe … but he’s certainly an acolyte of the Randian cult because all his arguments stem from that one ideology. There is no reason there, only ideology. And if you don’t adhere to the Objectivist ideology, you must be engaging in wrong-think. Despite Rand criticising Marxism and Communism, she certainly learnt a lot of her techniques there (she was brought up under Communism), and we see IAP using typically leftist/collectivist techniques all the time, especially identity politics (if you’re one of them you must think/behave like this, etc). Any self-alignment to political preference he will say “no, your a leftist because …”. I think he desperately needs everyone to be a leftist because it’s clear he’s one also.

    Objectivism is very attractive to some because it promotes extreme selfish behaviour by calling it “rational self-interest” and eschews “altruism”. IAP uses his own definitions to troll others, and rarely answers a straight question or allows others to use their more generally accepted definitions. He’s a zealot to the religion of Objectivism, with Ayn Rand as his goddess.

  42. The BigBlueCat

    Trump brought back tariffs, regulates immigration, started a “trade war,” threatens CEO’s and private enterprise over twitter, has signed off all record breaking spending and is calling for more, is calling for “big and bold” infrastructure projects, etc. Basically even half of what I already listed in this thread.

    But surely “protectionism” is an act of “rational self-interest” … it’s rational to restrict the trade of lower-cost items in order to sell more of your own higher-cost items, thereby driving up income and profitability. And politically rational to do so to hurt the revenues of your foreign foe in an effort to destabilise their economy and to have their population oppose that country’s policies. Tariffs aren’t boycotts, but they are a lever. While I’m not in favour of tariffs and trade wars, as a political tool they can be very effective. Free-market economics are an ideal, but it requires everyone to play fair. China doesn’t.

    And, yeah, Trump’s threatened CEOs and companies by improving their turnover, increasing their employment, lowering their taxes, reducing red tape and providing infrastructure that gets their products to their customers faster and in better condition. Yes, Trump certainly is a leftist dirtbag. (/sarc)

    Of course, none of this makes him specifically a leftist, unless of course you’ve drunk Randian Kool-Aid.

  43. Iampeter

    The fact that you can even type such a comment – presumably with a straight face – says heaps about your profound ignorance, IamInFavourOfOpenBordersLikeTypicalLeftists.

    You keep doubling down on not knowing what you’re talking about while accusing me of being ignorant, which adds to the comedy.
    Immigration regulations are pretty much the ORIGINAL left wing issue. Before marxism came along, the unions, democrats and nationalists were working to regulate immigration to stop cheaper foreign labor from breaking their shakedown racket. That’s it’s origin.
    But more important than not knowing the superficial-level stuff, like the history of the issue, you also don’t know the fundamentals, like how to tell if a policy is left wing or right wing in the first place. You don’t know that regulating immigration is collectivist, violates rights and is therefore left wing.
    You don’t know what any of that means, you don’t know anything about politics and neither do conservatives.
    This is how we end up with today, where one of the oldest and most pointless left wing issues is chosen as the defining cause of the conservative movement, and your President is more left wing and corrupt than the democrat’s candidate, LOL.
    But of course you don’t have any of the knowledge required to see it that way. All you can do is keep regurgitate inane talking points to try and rationalize your support for Trump.
    This is a thread celebrating leftist policies and a leftist president without realizing what you’re even saying.

    Like I said, there’s no recovering from this for the conservative movement.

  44. Rex Anger

    You keep doubling down on not knowing what you’re talking about while accusing me of being ignorant, which adds to the comedy…you also don’t know the fundamentals, like how to tell if a policy is left wing or right wing in the first place. You don’t know that regulating immigration is collectivist, violates rights and is therefore left wing.
    You don’t know what any of that means, you don’t know anything about politics and neither do conservatives…But of course you don’t have any of the knowledge required to see it that way. All you can do is keep regurgitate inane talking points to try and rationalize your support for Trump…This is a thread celebrating leftist policies and a leftist president without realizing what you’re even saying.

    So says IamMyMistressAynRand’sObjectivelyRationalCushionforThePushin’,

    So objectively rational it hurts to even thnk about examining his logic.

    About as objective and rational as a Chimpanzee’s finger painting, and even more incomprehensible.

    We look forward to seeing your head explode even harder when the Evilbad ‘Leftist’ Orange Man wins, IamTheSubjectiveIrrationalist. After all, it’s what John Galt would do… 😉

    @ BigBlueCat- Well done, that man. 😉

  45. Lee

    IamAShillForTheLeft seeks to discredit conservatives and right wingers and hollow them out from within by pretending to be a right winger himself.
    It’s a very old trick used by Russian communists.
    I have seen it done on blogs elsewhere, but often the person concerned gives himself away by saying “I am not a leftist, but …” and then go on to the usual leftist talking points, and attacks usually only conservatives and right wingers like Trump, but strangely enough rarely attacks leftists.

  46. Rex Anger

    @Lee-

    Congratulations too on setting IamTheSubjectiveIrrationalist off like a Rational hand grenade.

    It is good to set off a troll from time to time, pour encourager les autres…

  47. The BigBlueCat

    @ BigBlueCat- Well done, that man. 😉

    I’m still waiting on a response to my observation that while he considers conservatives to be leftists, they somehow will be upset by a leftist POTUS. I won’t hold my breath on that one.

  48. Rex Anger

    Indeed.

    Still good to make the Subjective Irrationalist rage.

    I am sorry to say that I may have performed my anti-rhetorical rhetoric too well. IamAScreechyLittleScoldilocks has more or less stopped replying to my challenges to his bullshit.

    Who would have thought a troll could not tolerate being trolled, and might follow the prescribed remedy for his own kind? 🙁

  49. Lee

    I’m still waiting on a response to my observation that while he considers conservatives to be leftists, they somehow will be upset by a leftist POTUS. I won’t hold my breath on that one.

    He’ll just say that conservatives have no right to object to a Joe Biden or (insert a Labor leader here), because we are to the left of them, or as he in an effect said last week: “anyone loony enough to support Trump can’t oppose Biden.”
    Why does support or approval for one person, party or idea mean you can’t oppose another?
    Of course, he makes many assumptions then makes circular arguments to “support” them, as well as being extremely opinionated.
    He wouldn’t last five minutes in a debate.

  50. Rex Anger

    Read your Vox Day, Lee and Cat?

    If so, Petey is a textbook Gamma troll.

    If you haven’t, read up SJWs Always Lie and particularly the latter half of SJWs Always Double Down.

  51. Lee

    Never heard of those books, Rex, they sound worth checking out, although I currently have umpteen unread books.

    What exactly does “Gamma troll” mean?
    Google is no help.

  52. Rex Anger

    Ah- Socio-sexual hierarchy. Observed character traits, particularly in males. As Day describes, not all Gammas are SJWs, but all SJWs are Gammas.

    If you have seen The Big Bang Theory, imagine the behaviours of Howard Wolowitz or Rajesh Koothrappali, but meaner and not played for comic effect.

    Cannot tolerate being wrong, will spin anything to not lose an argument, hold a grudge over nothing, etc.

    IamPeter to a ‘tee.’

    The Kindle Store is your friend for the Vox Day books. Though print copies may exist…

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