We’re All In This Together

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61 Responses to We’re All In This Together

  1. cuckoo

    Only a few days ago, fines were handed to ten people attending a Christian church service (Serbian Orthodox) in St. Albans, Melbourne.

  2. Bushkid

    That is blatant discrimination.

    Just because Christians won’t go around lopping off heads or going all ‘splodey on the populace, the government/s keep restrictions and imposition on them, yet let the other mob do what they want. Perhaps they realise that the other mob will probably just do what they want to anyway, so it saves face to say they’ll “let” the 400 gather.

    Oh, and those protestors too, although NSW did manage to stop that lot.

    Grrrr!

  3. Damon

    Standard definition of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

  4. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I’m not sure why they’re even bothering to dress to this up as an exemption. Friday “prayers” at Lahemba mosque have proceeding as usual for the duration.

  5. Pyrmonter

    1 – Places of Worship are allowed 1 per 4 sqm up to a limit of 100 in Sydney. Churches are open, and even resuming concert-giving. Location matters.

    2 The mosque asked for and was granted permission for a large service, at what I understand is an important festival, which would normally have a thousand or more. There are no major Christian festivals between now and Christ the King, and then Christmas Eve; if things in NSW are as they were a fortnight ago come November/December, I expect any church that seeks permission will be granted it. The church-goers breached a straightforward prohibition. Context matters.

    The insinuation of double-standards along sectarian lines is, to put it bluntly, sectarian evil.

  6. Iampeter

    Well this is fun!
    Can’t accuse them of violating your “religious freedom” in this case, but then how to address the issue in question when all you have is identity politics?

  7. the not very bright Marcus

    I wonder what the religion of pieces followers contribution to the China flu spread is ? … I reckon in in Melb they must be at least 50 % … which is a good rate because they are not 50% of the population …. yet

  8. a happy little debunker

    Tend to agree with Pyrmonter.
    The obvious difference is that one is in Melbourne (god save their souls) and the other is in NSW.

  9. Some History

    From the OT:

    Auburn Gallipoli Mosque granted coronavirus exemption for 400 people to celebrate Eid-al-Adha
    Public places of worship in NSW can have gatherings of 100 people at a time, subject to the 4 square metre rule.
    The Auburn Gallipoli Mosque has been given approval to have 4 separate sessions of not more that 100 people at a time, in accordance with the rule.

    Then it shouldn’t have been referred to as an “exemption”, and it’s not for 400 people but 4 separate lots of 100. Thanks MSM.

  10. stevem

    Much happier with 4*100, but there is still a cluster of 11 cases at another church in Sydney, so even 100 can be a problem.

  11. nb

    @ Pyrmonter, #3530192, posted on July 31, 2020 at 1:17 pm:
    Fair points. Were the details made clear in the ABC report?

  12. Pyrmonter

    @ nb

    Could be a little clearer, I suppose, but:

    Dr Asaroglu said attendees would be spread out across “four zones” including the two levels of the mosque, an adjoining function hall and carpark.

    @ stevem

    The Tele was reporting breaches of distancing there (Maronite, Our Lady of Lebanon) during the distribution of communion; as well as breaches at the a large Greek Orthodox place. It’s not good. Elsewhere, there’s been fairly strict adherence, from what I can make of it, across confessions.

  13. Some History

    Could be a little clearer, I suppose

    Look at the ABC headline. It’s terribly misleading:

    Sydney Mosque granted exemption for 400 people to celebrate Eid-al-Adha.

  14. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    George Orwell nailed it. “Some animals are more equal than other”. We have given our country and culture away to those who will destroy us!

  15. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Look at the ABC headline. It’s terribly misleading

    … exemption for 400 people …

    Not if 400 or more m00zleys actually do all turn up at the mosque at the same time, which is the most likely scenario.

  16. Maj

    Much happier with 4*100, but there is still a cluster of 11 cases at another church in Sydney, so even 100 can be a problem.

    But becos it’s a Christian church they still aren’t allowed to reopen to worshippers.

    https://youtu.be/Sn6eGYwsQtY?t=535

    There’s your double standard.

  17. Bronson

    Pyro see Melbourne outbreak – due to Eid gathering. You cannot guarantee separation is realistic in such a situation. You need to reappraise your safety risk or come to Victoria.

  18. C.L.

    There are no major Christian festivals between now and Christ the King

    Yes there are, Reverend. They’re called Sundays. Usual attendance: tens of thousands.

  19. Daily llama

    Did Spurgeon Monkfish 1 2 and 3 all go to ‘school’ together?
    Yeah I know, it’s bad…

  20. Some History

    C.L., are gatherings of up to 100 people with 4 sq m distancing rule permitted for religious congregations in NSW? Is this the current rule under Stage 2 restrictions?

    Victoria is different. It’s currently under Stage 3 restrictions.

  21. C.L.

    FFS.
    I’m aware they’re different states but, no, I don’t care what the latest stipulated “restrictions” are. The POINT is that all of this is ad hoc, made-up crap.

  22. Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer

    One can see where this Government is leading towards!! Not Christianity it seems.

  23. Bruce

    “Victoria is different.”

    For a start, it’s full of …Victorians.

  24. PB

    Let them gather. That’s a potentially lot of birds for one stone.

  25. Megan

    Let them gather. That’s a potentially lot of birds for one stone.

    Ah yes, they will let Allah decide.

  26. Tom

    The only thing worse than athiests are athiests raised as Christians. They’re more bigoted than Muesli terrorists and they’re now the Australian ruling class. I’d say God help them, but they walked away from Him. They deserve no mercy.

  27. Squirrel

    I hope the BLMers are suitably and noisily outraged at any real or perceive contradictions with how they were treated.

  28. lotocoti

    Remember those churches given exemptions for Good Friday and Easter?
    Neither do I.

  29. Will the police be there to count the numbers attending the mosque? When 400+ attend at once, will it be argued that not enough was done to address the language difficulties and thus all is good?

    If masks prevent COVID and it’s OK for more than 10 people to go to Bunnings or a supermarket at one time, why can’t 10 people attend church at one time?

  30. egg_

    Further proof of our two tier society, just like local council jerbs that can (do no) work from home for 2 months on the ratepayers dime.
    Comrade.

  31. egg_

    Pyrmonter
    #3530192, posted on July 31, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    Is this an old crock on his last legs justifying shutdowns?

    Insane.

  32. egg_

    The POINT is that all of this is ad hoc, made-up crap.

    Just like the BLM “protests” scenarios.
    Blind Freddie can see that.

  33. rickw

    Australia is a shithole.

  34. notafan

    10 people, including the priest and assistants in a large church all observing social distancing is much less risky than ten people in a supermarket aisle.

    I’m furious that a small group of mostly pensioners were fined for observing a feast day.

  35. egg:
    It’s fairly obvious where the line is being drawn.
    It looks like we’ll have to become much more militant or else.

  36. egg_

    It looks like we’ll have to become much more militant or else.

    Hence, the Medical Corps are tiptoeing around the muz zos, lest there be bloodshed.

  37. Mark M

    How is it they can follow the genome sequence to discover the origins of the Melbourne outbreak already, but, can’t identify if it originated from China or not?

  38. Richard Bender

    Or, to put it in a way without currenylad’s bullshit dogwhistling: two completely different governments in two completely different jurisdictions made two completely different decisions. If both decisions had been made in the same state, you might have some sort of point. As they weren’t, we can infer the real reason you made this post. JUST FUCK OFF.

  39. Roger

    Different jurisdictions, yes.

    But either “we’re all in this together” or governments will no longer be able rely on the public spirited community response required when we face an even more serious public health crisis, which we will due to China’s penchant for exotic meats and international travel (which will be restored, sooner or later).

    Health Hazzard should be sacked.

  40. Rex Anger

    @ Richard Bender-

    Voetsek troll.

    You don’t like CL, don’t Catallaxy. There’s a whole Internet to indulge your crudity in…

  41. C.L.

    FFS.
    I’m aware they’re different states but, no, I don’t care what the latest stipulated “restrictions” are. The POINT is that all of this is ad hoc, made-up crap.

    Apologies, SH. That came across as yelly.

  42. C.L.

    …two completely different governments in two completely different jurisdictions made two completely different decisions.

    Congratulations.

  43. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘The insinuation of double-standards along sectarian lines is, to put it bluntly, sectarian evil.’

    It’s not an insinuation. It’s a statement, and a justified one.

  44. Knuckle Dragger

    Dick Bender at 6.43:

    ‘As they weren’t, we can infer’

    Who is ‘we’, exactly?

  45. Some History

    That came across as yelly.

    Not a prob. All good.

  46. Robber Baron

    Bundy, the full quote is…All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

    We are all in this together…lol.

    Only fools believe their government.

  47. Exit Stage Right

    Still got your hand on it , bent dick.

  48. Some History

    Bishops fear owning a Bible could be hate crime offence under new Scots law
    Scotland’s Catholic bishops have raised concerns that possessing the Bible could become an offence under proposed new hate crime legislation.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/bishops-fear-owning-bible-could-be-hate-crime-offence-under-new-scots-law-2927927

  49. “Some are more equal than others” is precisely the point, Colonel gets it, why not Richard Bender?

  50. Boambee John

    Colonel gets it, why not Richard Bender?

    Spends too much time bending the richard?

  51. dover_beach

    I just love how C.L. smokes out the scum and lees.

  52. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Seems multiple Colonels “get it”.
    Indulge in moral relativism; not just a practical reality, but the only permitted goal for the Left.
    Progressives want strong borders… for principles but not for people. Figure that one out.

  53. Struth

    Maybe if you knew your constitution you’d be asking your federal government why they have allowed states to be in control of quarantine causing all this bullshit with no accountability.

  54. iain russell

    OTOH, rejoice and celebrate the 1 August defeat of papist bigotry in 1689 with the ending of the Siege of Derry. Freedom!

  55. PB

    There is another religious persuasion that has been flouting Coronavirus rules in Victoria, but it’s not allowed to be named out loud in case the adherents get upset.

  56. Archivist

    Apologies, SH. That came across as yelly.

    no, just as fed up… .and pissed off.

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