Don’t you dare

The AFR is reporting that:

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews is urging Prime Minister Scott Morrison to extend full JobKeeper payments to the beleaguered state and help fund cash grants for the retail, hospitality and tourism sectors as businesses brace for a longer lockdown they say they cannot afford.

Basically, Premier Andrews is asking the non-Victoria Australia to subsidise the cost of his administrative cluster fluck.

As a NSW citizen, TAFKAS would support this.  On the strict condition that the members of Daniel Andrews’ Cabinet take a pay cut to the level of the JobKeeper allowance and surrender every cent of their post parliamentary benefits, the difference also going towards assisting Victorian citizens.

Has there ever been a greater and more expensive administrative failure than that demonstrated by the Victorian government.  This will cost billions upon billions of dollars.

Another condition would be that Premier Andrews change his name by deed poll to John Joan Kirner-Cain.

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50 Responses to Don’t you dare

  1. H B Bear

    Chairman Dan may have knocked Mother Russia off the podium. Who would have thought it possible?

  2. Speedbox

    Not entirely without precedent. Anna Bligh convinced Julia Gillard to impose a levy across Australia to fund recovery from the floods as QLD hadn’t insured against that type of event.

    Of course, Gillard agreed which was not surprising given they were both Labor, but it was still a disgrace. There may be some philosophical differences between SloMo and Andrews but this is politics and if Andrews asks and raises enough of a cry via the local MSM, SloMo will cave.

  3. BoyfromTottenham

    And while he is at it, stamp an indelible big red ‘C’ on the forehead of everyone sent to self-quarantine. That might improve their bad behaviour.

  4. John Bayley

    On the strict condition that the members of Daniel Andrews’ Cabinet take a pay cut to the level of the JobKeeper allowance and surrender every cent of their post parliamentary benefits, the difference also going towards assisting Victorian citizens.

    C’mon; their work is way too important to deserve a pay cut!
    After all, how would Victorians know what to do if it were not for their benevolent Dear Leader telling them just how to carry out The Great Leap Forward?

  5. candy

    The National Cabinet said we are all in this together.
    PM Morrison said “we are all Victorians now”.

    So in a sense, the Federal government is obliged to see this through. They set the course from the beginning.

  6. Fair Shake

    Another condition or two… Dandrews and his appalling government resign, with no pension and serve a minimum 10 years jail. There is to be no statue, hospital, hospital wing, freeway, junkie shop or public recognition of this cork head funded by taxpayers for eternity. IMHO as a Victorian.
    Oh and he is my local member. The Electoral office successfully carved off traditionally Liberal seats and connect them with safe labor seats. The swamp runs deep in these parts.

  7. EvilElvis

    The rest of us pay for others ineptitude.

    I had a business. Shut down due to covid, but got going again with a shorter week, shorter hours and no Jobkeeper for any staff. We had to make it work and we did. Luckily we made some money and paid tax. Tax that got passed on to my competitors in town who are claiming the wage subsidy.

    What a fucking country.

  8. Rob

    “Dan Andrews = John Joan Kirner-Cain” ?
    Love it.

  9. Speedbox

    EvilElvis
    #3531297, posted on August 1, 2020 at 3:25 pm

    Yep. This country is fucked. In fairness, so are most of the ‘western’ nations around the globe but that doesn’t make the accelerating slide any more palatable.

  10. gafa

    Said a while back, financially Dan can’t lose by running Victoria into the ground; either Morrison comes up with a big financial rescue package or China will ( probably Dan’s preferred option).

  11. While I dislike Chairman Dan, how is this different to all the bloodsucking that we have from other states, notably, the likes of SA and Tas? SA goes all Gaia and then looks to the other states to keep its lights on and Tas goes Gaia and stops all industry, then cries for help.

  12. Ian of Brisbane

    Morrison never misses an opportunity to disappoint

  13. A H

    Hopefully ScoMo drives in the screws so that Dan the Man is left high and dry and summarily removed from his position sooner rather than later.

  14. EvilElvis

    Yep. This country is fucked. In fairness, so are most of the ‘western’ nations around the globe but that doesn’t make the accelerating slide any more palatable.

    Agreed. Are we just waiting for a pinch point that never comes? Far to many people on the teat to realise. Maybe once living standards really start going backwards the penny will drop. The government doesn’t make you aspirational or affluent.

    Back on topic. Surely Vic doesn’t need bailing out. They’ve got heaps of Ponzi, immigration scam consumption machines to keep the economy going.

  15. Tony

    surrender every cent of their post parliamentary benefits, the difference also going towards assisting Victorian citizens.

    I believe moat Victorian MPs don’t get anything when they leave these days. Not sure on the detail…was what an MP elected around 2010 told me.

  16. Just Passing By

    On the strict condition that the members of Daniel Andrews’ Cabinet take a pay cut to the level of the JobKeeper allowance

    This should have happened from day 1. And it should have included all public servants and politicians. They’re always carrying on about socialism. This was the perfect opportunity to give them a taste of it.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Isn’t there any provision for Victoria to be stripped of it’s Parliamentary representation, declared a Mendicant State, and placed under administration, in the same way as any other bankrupt enterprise?

  18. Ceres

    I’m in Victoria – don’t cave in to bailing Andrews out Morrison. No other way other than for us to suffer because of this commie fool and just maybe, in 2 years time, the voters will get rid of him and his henchmen.
    Other States will get on the gravy train if the covid precedent is set, and never manage their finances properly again.

  19. Rokdoktor

    This is where we decide if Australia is a federation of sovereign states, each responsible for their own internal affairs, or if we are one nation, divided into purely administrative regions set along pre-federation boundaries. In the first instance Victoria would be responsible for sorting out their own mess. In the second case the entire nation contributes for the common good of all. While common compassion would lead me towards the second choice, hard realism dictates the first. If a state government knows that no matter how cack-handed it is in running its own affairs, that the rest of the nation will come riding to its rescue, then it is hardly induced to do the best job it can. I can’t agree to a situation where the competent and prudent are punished to reward the incompetent and profligate (although it has been ever thus…)

  20. Squirrel

    Any special deal for Victoriastan, and any other jurisdiction which might subsequently get into trouble, should be on the basis of a loan, which is repaid over time by deductions from future general assistance grants from the Commonwealth – i.e. not by cutting specific grants for health, education, roads etc. which would obviously be used as a political weapon against the Commonwealth.

    The very, very strong suggestion should be that serious savings be made in management and back/office administrative costs – so that the usual Labor/Green tactic of pretending that any cuts to the public sector will be borne by “frontline workers” is specifically ruled out. Recently granted pay increases should be cancelled, and there should be a pay freeze for at least a few years – trickle-down stimulus via overpaid public officials is just not on when the finances are this bad.

    The fine detail of what is being spent on wasteful bureaucracy would only be known at the state level, but it should not be beyond federal officials in Treasury and Finance to do some benchmarking of admin spending in Victoriastan and come up with a reasonably plausible estimate of savings that could be made without slashing services to the public.

    Shame they don’t have s State Bank to flog off………..

  21. Squirrel

    Having now looked (I could have guessed) at The Age article linked to the AFR article, it’s all the fault of Kennett and the state Treasury for gutting and fragmenting the Victoriastan health system.

    So a Premier who lost office nearly 21 years ago, and whose party has held power for only four of the following years, and a department which answers to the government of the day (and knows what would happen to it, and its senior leadership, if it displeases the government of the day) is responsible for this disaster – FFS.

  22. Neil

    Brings back memories. I was living in Geelong when the Pyramid Building Society went under and Victoria went close to being bankrupt under Labor. People i worked with were happy that the govt guaranteed something, i think it was their interest payments

    Cain/Kirner almost destroyed Victoria, Kennett got the place back up and running and then Victoria voted Labor again and the cycle continues

  23. Lee

    I’m in Victoria – don’t cave in to bailing Andrews out Morrison. No other way other than for us to suffer because of this commie fool and just maybe, in 2 years time, the voters will get rid of him and his henchmen.

    I’m a Victorian too, and I agree with you.
    I tend to think that Morrison is on a hiding nothing if he bails out Victoria.
    He’ll get no credit or win many votes from the Left (certainly not Andrews), and if the bail-out succeeds Andrews will certainly claim all the credit and quite possibly be re-elected.
    Don’t think for one moment he couldn’t be re-elected.
    On the other hand, if the bail-out fails, the federal government and Morrison will wear all the blame, and Andrews will sheet it home to them.

  24. Megan

    Another Victorian who thinks that Andrews should be hung out to dry. He is blazingly incompetent and suffers from serious Failure-To-Learn syndrome.

    And the mentally deficient who continually return him and his disastrous henchman to power need to get a bloody good taste of the reality cluebat for this unmitigated debacle.

    I’m over it. And him.

  25. Tim Neilson

    My I join with my fellow Victorians in agreeing that ScoMo should tell the Hunchback to procreate with himself.
    That will set the right precedent for when, as seems all too likely, similar situations arise in the other states and territories. (Yes, I agree that the Hunchback should be publicly flogged to death, but more for the incompetent heavy-handedness of the economically destructive lockdown than for the incompetent mismanagement of “flattening the curve”.)
    And it may focus the Hunchback’s mind on actually planning how to ease restrictions (hint: the virus isn’t very dangerous to people in good health under the age of 60, maybe even 70), so that Victoria can put away the begging bowl and resume work.

    But I do agree with bemused – why do SA and Tas get a free pass on having done exactly the same thing, as business as usual, for so long?

  26. Rockdoctor

    Speedbox
    #3531279, posted on August 1, 2020 at 3:09 pm

    I copped it in Townsville allegedly exempt due to Cyclone Yasi for the crime of not applying for the disaster benefit that I could have, I was eligible according to the criteria but we could afford our repairs so didn’t.

    As for this proposal that looks like it may fly. WTF does Andrews have over Scomo, talk about the tail wagging the dog. Scomo owes Andrews nothing and given the election results certainly isn’t going to win Victorians over in a hurry. Worse still the stench of corruption that exudes from the state ALP should provide a target rich environment yet the Lib’s do nothing. Go figure…

  27. John A

    Just Passing By #3531388, posted on August 1, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    On the strict condition that the members of Daniel Andrews’ Cabinet take a pay cut to the level of the JobKeeper allowance

    This should have happened from day 1. And it should have included all public servants and politicians. They’re always carrying on about socialism. This was the perfect opportunity to give them a taste of it.

    Adding my voice to this, but with the proviso that any pay adjustment incorporate a back-pay component – to April 1st. when the first restrictions were imposed IIRC. And, if that wasn’t the case, it will do as April Fools Day.

  28. ZK2A:

    Isn’t there any provision for Victoria to be stripped of it’s Parliamentary representation, declared a Mendicant State, and placed under administration, in the same way as any other bankrupt enterprise?

    It would be good if ANY state that ran itself into such a parlous state could have the administrators called in, but there would need to be very strict and defined terminology for that to happen.

  29. Rokdoctor,
    For Federalism to work, there must be a degree of competition between the States, and there should be no raising of a tax by the Federal Government on the behalf of the States, or vice versa.
    Each State to run their own affairs, and the Federal Government to handle Defence, currency, and foreign relations.
    The current cross subsidisation has encouraged a degree of foolhardiness between the States in terms of development of resources and financial accountability.
    Solution – Federal government gets only the Sales Tax and Excise/Duty. The States can get back to competing with their Tax Regimes between each other and let the investments flow as they will. Perhaps it will encourage the kind of development that has stalled because some States have decided to sit on their resources in a beggar thy neighbour situation.

  30. rickw

    Victorians, you need to all phone your local member, this shit cannot continue.

  31. Squirrel:

    Shame they don’t have s State Bank to flog off………..

    🙂
    Andrews would sell it off to a Chinese backed consortium of
    Industrial and Commercial Bank of China,
    Bank of China,
    PLAAF,
    Huawei.
    What could go wrong?

  32. Buccaneer

    Dan d*ckhead is not the problem, the media that refuses to kept him accountable is the problem. They’ve desperately told us for weeks how nsw will be the next disaster to studiously avoid examining what a complete f*ckup the d*ckhead has made.

  33. Perfidious Albino

    Wait, so having just awarded public servants a pay rise, Dan now has his greasy paws out to the Feds… LOLGF should be the only response.

  34. min

    I was sent leaked cabiner meeting decision . Melbourne lock down stage 4 from Next week . like NZ for 6 weeks Supermarkets, chemists petrol stations open plus essential services , 1 family member only to shop . no public transport all students back to online learning cafes etc takeaway only . Shortage of meat as abattoirs to close all construction work to stop
    welcome to Victoriazuela

  35. min

    60 minutes might cook his goose

  36. egg_

    PM Morrison said “we are all Victorians now”.

    Rope-a-dope.

  37. mareeS

    We live in a nice smaller city, Newcastle, where we go along and get along, off the radar. Sydney and Melbourne are an hour away by road or air, not that we are much interested in either.

    We have not been affected by the virus, life continues as usual.

  38. Eyrie

    We live in a nice smaller city, Newcastle, where we go along and get along, off the radar. Sydney and Melbourne are an hour away by road or air, not that we are much interested in either.

    We have not been affected by the virus, life continues as usual.

    Pretty much the story in Toowoomba also, mareeS. Brisbane is 1.5 hours by car and we can fly direct to Sydney and Melbourne in 2 hours or so, although why anyone would want to go to Sodom-by-the-Harbour or Gomorrah-by-the-Bay beats me.

  39. And Their ABC is right on the ball when it comes to conspiracy theories: https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-08-01/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-drug-now-right-wing-ideology/12510812.

    The article is so long that few will read it all, and it basically says nothing beyond the headline, and at the very end:

    Whether or not hydroxychloroquine ever becomes a viable coronavirus drug,…

    Which basically shows that the entire article is just the usual Leftist way to attack Trump.

  40. PB

    “and just maybe, in 2 years time, the voters will get rid of him and his henchmen.”

    Victoria is now full of vibrant diversity that votes itself free stuff. Labor knows this is the election-winning imperative.

  41. HT

    Megan
    #3531475, posted on August 1, 2020 at 6:47 pm
    Another Victorian who thinks that Andrews should be hung out to dry…

    Literally.

  42. Rabbi Putin

    As a Victorian I don’t want Dickears to be bailed out by the Federal Gov, but it doesn’t really matter that much anymore. Whether Scomo does or doesn’t, the collapse of the Australian Dollar is baked in the cake. I hope you are all ready for that.

    Our press is to blame as much as the politicians.
    Anyone who questions the prevailing left-wing narrative is derided as a conspiracy theorist. This includes questioning masks, lockdowns, advocating for Hydroxichloroquine or defending Trump or the Swedish approach.

  43. Shaun

    This is a major problem with public sector “no skin in the game”. The public service should be a reflection of what is going on in society. Rather than expanding their programs and size, it should be cutting back, including salaries. The behaviour we have seen of government is that of a group acting to protect itself and it’s own interests first with no accountability, able to make and set it’s own rules.

  44. DaveR

    Even the Spencer Street Soviet is getting stuck into Victoria’s Glorious Leader:

    Indeed it is saying something when VicPravda does any objective analysis at all, let alone of anyone or anything on the left. Its taken them 5 months for them to realise Dodgy Dan is a Dud, but they eventually got there.

  45. Rabbi Putin

    I read that article in The Melbourne Pravda, the ditz who wrote it up obviously feels very sorry for her hero Dan, and the way she quotes the tradie in her article is telling. Essentially, “it’s incredible but there are actuallly people out there who DONT like Dan, but maybe they’re just upset and want to blame someone!”

  46. Papachango

    Even the Spencer Street Soviet is getting stuck into Victoria’s Glorious Leader

    They think he doesn’t go far enough. Self-proclaimed “staunch civil libertarian” Jon Faine is urging him to arbitrarily imprison people. The headline isn’t subtle either – Daniel Andrews needs to seriously consider locking people up

    I kid you not – this is what it my homeland the DSSR has become…

  47. Alex

    LOLGF should be the only response.

    OK I give in, what does LOLGF mean? Laugh out loud, go figure? I’m still figuring….

  48. Bulldog

    As a Victorian i can tell you if he gets bailed out he will get re elected.

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