Open Forum: August 1, 2020

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  1. Following on from redneck lady’s post about comparisons between the chunk virus and other diseases someone has done a comparison between 2019 and 2020 which shows every other disease has reduced by enormous amounts since the chunk virus took hold. I’ll post some graphs later.

    Ever consider that the reduction in virus infections (including the common cold and influenza) might have something to do with the messages being propagated by the health authorities and the fact that the majority use common sense and follow them?

    Very basic risk minimisation behaviours (social distancing, hand hygiene etc) can make a significant difference if enough people follow them.

    We are social beings, and part of a society, not an economy.
    This particular cluebat is booting the Glibertarians right up the backside.

  2. Cassie of Sydney

    “I’ve had Lamb Ragu with fennel seed, chili and orange peel on the burn for the last 3 hours”

    Did you add nutmeg? It is a magic ingredient in a beef or lamb ragu. I learnt this from an Italian Jooooish recipe book.

  3. Delta A

    what did you do with the brisket?

    Butting in, I know, but Best Man does superb smoked brisket using apple-wood, rolling the meat in peppercorns before smoking for several hours.

    Smells wonderful while cooking, and tastes superb.

  4. Nick

    Outrage in Germany after Afghan migrant who was arrested for ‘roping an 11-year-old’ was released after 12 days then ‘roped another girl, 13’
    The suspect, 23, was released 12 days after allegedly roping an 11-year-old girl
    Authorities claimed there was no evidence that he was at risk of re-offending
    Only five weeks later the man allegedly roped a 13-year-old girl in Dortmund
    Politicians are calling for the Afghan man to be deported if he is found guilty

  5. Leigh Lowe/Memoryvault:

    WTF?
    You’ve been posting that dribble today sober?
    Jeez!

    MV – I stand impressed.
    Actually, I need a drink too.
    Must check the cellar…

  6. Gab

    Hence my sponsoring a South African farmer and his family – someone who loves the land and is glad to be here. Visas applied for in early Jan, still waiting.

    You’re a heroine, Helen. A potential win-win situation. Really hoping it works out for both parties. God bless you!

  7. NoFixedAddress

    If this has been posted already then another posting is worth it.

    Details emerging about fatal shooting of BLM ‘protester’ in Austin, TX are stunning
    By Thomas Lifson

    F. Clinton Broden and Broden & Mickelsen issue the following statement on behalf of our client, Daniel Perry.

    Daniel Perry is an active duty sergeant with the United States Army. He is a former Eagle Scout from the North Texas area and served our country proudly for the past eight years. Sgt. Perry served a tour in Afghanistan and has been the recipient of numerous army awards and commendations.

    On the evening of July 25, 2020, Sgt. Perry was in Austin, Texas driving for a ride share company in order to earn extra money. He had dropped his client off in the vicinity of Congress Avenue. He was then going to proceed to a “hot spot” in order to wait on notification to pick up another client or to pick up food for delivery. Sgt. Perry made a right onto Congress Avenue from Fourth Street and encountered a throng of people in the street. Prior to arriving at the corner of Fourth Street and Congress Avenue, Sgt. Perry did not know that a demonstration was taking place.

    When Sgt. Perry turned on the Congress Avenue, several people started beating on his vehicle. An individual carrying an assault rifle, now known to be Garrett Foster, quickly approached the car and then motioned with the assault rifle for Mr. Perry to lower his window. Sgt. Perry initially believed the person was associated with law enforcement and complied with the command. After rolling down the window, it became apparent to Sgt. Perry that the individual with the assault rifle was not with law enforcement. It has now been confirmed by several witnesses that this individual with the assault rifle then began to raise the assault rifle toward Sgt. Perry. It was only then that Sgt. Perry, who carried a handgun in his car for his own protection while driving strangers in the ride share program, fired on the person to protect his own life.

    Immediately after Sgt. Perry fired on the individual who raised the assault rifle toward him, a member of the crowd began firing on Sgt. Perry’s vehicle. Sgt. Perry drove to safety and immediately called the police. He waited for the police to arrive and fully cooperated with the police following the shooting and he continues to do so.

    We urge the public to allow the police to conduct a full investigation. We also need to correct statements that have been reported by the press. First, Sgt. Perry never left his vehicle preceding or immediately following the shooting. Second, Sgt. Perry did not “flee” but immediately called police upon getting to safety. Finally and most importantly, police have interviewed witnesses who were demonstrating with Mr. Foster and these witnesses have confirmed that Mr. Foster raised his assault rifle in a direct threat to Sgt. Perry’s life.

    Sgt. Perry and his family deeply sympathize with the loss and grief being experienced by Mr. Foster’s family. Sgt. Perry is devastated by what happened. Nevertheless, that does not change facts. The simple fact is that Sgt. Perry reasonably perceived a threat to his life when, as has now been confirmed by independent witnesses, Mr. Foster raised his assault rifle toward Sgt. Perry who was sitting in his car. We simply ask that anybody who might want to criticize Sgt. Perry’s actions, picture themselves trapped in a car as a masked stranger raises an assault rifle in their direction and reflect upon what they might have done if faced with the split second decision faced by Sgt. Perry that evening.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/07/details_emerging_about_fatal_shooting_of_blm_protester_in_austin_tx_are_stunning.html

  8. MatrixTransform

    We are social beings, and part of a society, not an economy.

    oh yeah? … we’ll see about that

    Cartesian Bob, you wouldn’t know a train was up ya even if the people got out

  9. MatrixTransform

    Did you add nutmeg?

    Hmm … thankyou … gonna get on that

  10. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nick
    #3531449, posted on August 1, 2020 at 6:26 pm
    Outrage in Germany after Afghan migrant who was arrested for ‘roping an 11-year-old’ was released after 12 days then ‘roped another girl, 13’
    The suspect, 23, was released 12 days after allegedly roping an 11-year-old girl
    Authorities claimed there was no evidence that he was at risk of re-offending
    Only five weeks later the man allegedly roped a 13-year-old girl in Dortmund
    Politicians are calling for the Afghan man to be deported if he is found guilty”

    Yes…nothing unusual here. The Afghan man just doing what his religion prescribes….wape has been a tool used by Mueslis to spread Islaaaaaaaam’s over the centuries. Ho hum.

  11. cohenite

    Shut up troll; 2 other scenarios are floating around, the first being misdiagnosis of flu for the chunk virus and people not being tested for other dangerous illnesses. In a little while a comparison between current and future death rates of these other illnesses will confirm that.

    The issue is to do with the doctrine of acceptable risk. Any society which suppresses it’s citizens and economy on the pretext of eradicating the chunk virus is making the cure worse than the disease; although we know other political and ideological factors are at play with the left using this disease to promote their electoral chances.

    This chunk virus was a big unknown to begin with. Now we know a lot more about it and which people are affected by it. Policy show be on that basis. However the Hydroxy resistance demonstrates that there will be no honest response from the left and the entrenched interests.

  12. Eyrie

    Details emerging about fatal shooting of BLM ‘protester’ in Austin, TX are stunning
    By Thomas Lifson

    Another fvckwit leftist fool eliminated. All good. Good job Sergeant Perry.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “Hmm … thankyou … gonna get on that”

    Pleasure…it imparts a special flavour.

  14. DrBeauGan

    Queensland is very nice, except for my sister. I want to go home, but the WA gummint won’t let me back in.

    My sister has depression and I’m making it worse. She hates the government, which is good. Unfortunately, she also hates Jooz, aborigines, foreigners and me. The last I can sympathise with, at least I’m an individual she knows. Hating people by the bucket load is the infallible sign of the nutter.

  15. Boambee John

    Very basic risk minimisation behaviours (social distancing, hand hygiene etc) can make a significant difference if enough people follow them.

    We are social beings, and part of a society, not an economy.

    True.

    There is nothing like social distancing and avoiding close personal contact (shaking hands, hugging) to reinforce our social links.

    Things like effectively closing off (most) religious services, social centres like pubs, cafes, theatres and restaurants, and most public socialisation really, really, empathise our existence as “social beings”.

    This might be the time for the bin chicken to name that genuinely democratic communist state, wherein society is superior to the economy.

    Still, the bin chicken has his education department pension, so the concept of a working economy is probably of low importance to him!

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    One for Calli, from Ncl local news just now: Donald Trump has been spotted in Port Stephens.

  17. MatrixTransform

    I got another 30 minutes.
    wondering its too late for this batch

    butterfly pasta.

    Farfalle

    when the missus says it watch the Italians stutter and spurt about pronunciation.
    her mate Lydia is a cracker

    set aside 20 minutes then ask her, What’s the best leather Lydia?

    love jerking her chain … it’s one of my chief joys

  18. Helen

    Keto tacos tonight yum!

    Thanks for your suggestions re basic professional services in regional places.

    Winston, you are right, beauty is often strange and only reveals itself after time or at the right moment.

    Hopefully some of the people that come will become entranced and stay a long while. So long as they let themselves slow down enough for the moment to occur.

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    Did you add nutmeg?
    Hmm … thankyou … gonna get on that

    Many books say “a pinch” of nutmeg. Not here, it is added with abandon. Ditto garlic. Always grind pepper, salt and grate nutmeg etc. onto a piece of paper first to get an idea of how much is my limit. Bugger a teaspoon of this and half a tablespoon on that. Also if you grind these ingredients into a steaming pot, you can’t see what you are doing.

  20. MatrixTransform

    What I heard …

    no confirmation yet
    Metropolitan Melbourne will move to stage 4 restrictions (likely 12:00am Wednesday )
    This will be a New Zealand style lockdown that will last for at least 6 weeks.
    Regional Victoria (including Mitchell Shire) will move to stage 3 restrictions.
    Years 10 to 12 students in Melbourne and all students in regional Victoria will return to online learning, so their is no disadvantage for students from Melbourne.
    We will return to school on Monday and this will likely be our last day.
    All shops/businesses will close, except supermarkets, chemists, hospitals and petrol stations & restaurants and cafes will remain open for takeaway and delivery only.
    Only 1 person from a family will be allowed out of the house at any time to go to the supermarket.
    No one will be able to move more than 5km from their home (including bike riding.)
    All public transport will likely be shut down.
    Exercise will still be permitted, provided you wear a mask.
    Some abattoirs will close, so their may be a shortage of meat.
    All construction work will stop.

    apparently a cabinet briefing

  21. areff

    Jeez, Matrix. The absolute shame of being a Victorian these days.

  22. Bruce of Newcastle

    Nothing exciting at Cafe Bruce for the headwaiter tonight, just some San Remo spaghetti and Barilla olive sauce, which is pretty much tomatoes with sliced olives in it. Very Italian, and nice. And some Eaglehawk CSM, since Eytie spag should have red wine.

    The birds get the bolognese mince. Today I went for a walk after lunch, around the suburb. Got a grey butcherbird and three magpies to sit on my hand for the not-quite-bolognese mince. Soon they’ll start singing in Italian.

  23. Nick

    Wine Cats, Vintage cellars are selling Penfolds 389 for $75, an ‘ok’ price.

  24. Tinta:

    The universities are no longer universities they’re indoctrination gulags – they should be stripped of funds until they educate not indoctrinate.

    Conversing with the convinced, here.

  25. Mark A

    Also if you grind these ingredients into a steaming pot, you can’t see what you are doing.

    You also clog up the grinder.
    Bad habit.

  26. Cohenite:

    Following on from redneck lady’s post about comparisons between the chunk virus and other diseases someone has done a comparison between 2019 and 2020 which shows every other disease has reduced by enormous amounts since the chunk virus took hold. I’ll post some graphs later.

    Appreciated, Cohenite.
    It’s rather odd, isn’t it?
    I shall read the graphs by the reflected light of the Shiny Arsed One.

  27. JC

    Cronkite

    Earlier, you were peddling that big pharma was trying to prevent the use of hydro. This turned out to be a conspiracy theory because it’s simply not true.

    Hydro most likely works in cocktail combination.

    How are you handling land transfers these days? Through Zoom? Keep it up.

  28. notafan

    How much more can we put up with?
    Destructo Dan.

  29. JC

    Nurse Betty, go see if the alcoholic spouse hasn’t swallowed her tongue. You grovelling imbecile

  30. Leigh Lowe

    On the subject of diverse faces in adverts.
    Yes, nearly all corporate and government advertising goes to great lengths to put a liberal sprinkling of “First Nashuns”, mueslis, Asians, gay couples in their “marketing collateral”.
    The one notable exception before Kung Flu shaming?
    Domestic violence adverts.
    All perps were white bread Aussies. The only dusky faces were those “calling him out” or comforting the victim.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Another fvckwit leftist fool eliminated. All good. Good job Sergeant Perry.

    I know I shouldn’t laugh, but I keep thinking about the old line about bringing a knife to a gunfight.

  32. Some History

    For anyone, particularly military folk, interested

    Pentagon’s War on Tobacco Fails
    FEATURE: The Defense Department Tried to Get Me to Quit Smoking. It Didn’t Work

    https://freebeacon.com/issues/pentagons-war-on-tobacco-fails/

  33. johanna

    Went to the mall today and shopped at Coles (f. u. Woolies) and didn’t see a single mask, in the whole mall or outside. Not one. This is in Queanbeyan, NSW, btw.

    The only signs of The Black Plague were the plastic screens in front of the checkout staff and that the cabbie on the way home had all his windows down a smidgin to keep the air circulating. People were social distancing – sort of – as much as one realistically can in a supermarket and shopping mall.

    It must be like living in a police state to be in Victoriastan just now. How long will people put up with it?

    Has anyone published an age based analysis of deaths yet?

    How about a comparison ( a simple bar chart would be great) of deaths from ordinary flu last year the TBP this year, by month?

    The Victorian economy will be a smoking ruin by the end of the year, due to people in comfy, taxpayer funded jobs. They have no concept of risk assessment, because their jobs by definition exclude risk. Future generations can look forward to a huge credit card bill as their inheritance, to keep these parasites alive right now.

    Mind you, no jurisdiction has covered itself in glory during this debacle. Every State and Territory leader has resembled a newly caught fish flapping around on the deck of a boat, only less rational and predictable.

    Panic is the default setting, along with shifting responsibility onto public servants, security firms, ‘experts’, the general public – anyone but themselves.

    If nothing else, it’s been very instructive about the calibre of our so-called leaders.

  34. Nick

    The one notable exception before Kung Flu shaming?
    Domestic violence adverts.
    All perps were white bread Aussies.

    Shit yeah. Strangely, an anti smoking ad, had an aborigine.

  35. littledozer

    no confirmation yet
    Metropolitan Melbourne will move to stage 4 restrictions (likely 12:00am Wednesday )
    This will be a New Zealand style lockdown that will last for at least 6 weeks.
    Regional Victoria (including Mitchell Shire) will move to stage 3 restrictions.
    Years 10 to 12 students in Melbourne and all students in regional Victoria will return to online learning, so their is no disadvantage for students from Melbourne.
    We will return to school on Monday and this will likely be our last day.
    All shops/businesses will close, except supermarkets, chemists, hospitals and petrol stations & restaurants and cafes will remain open for takeaway and delivery only.
    Only 1 person from a family will be allowed out of the house at any time to go to the supermarket.
    No one will be able to move more than 5km from their home (including bike riding.)
    All public transport will likely be shut down.
    Exercise will still be permitted, provided you wear a mask.
    Some abattoirs will close, so their may be a shortage of meat.
    All construction work will stop.

    Got this 2

    Lights out Vic

  36. Gab

    Some abattoirs will close, so their may be a shortage of meat.

    Yes I heard that one from a reliable source tonight.

  37. 132andBush

    notafan
    #3531255, posted on August 1, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    No one is suggesting that rural people be denied medical services Mr Bush.

    I actually know that, I just said that in order to highlight the stupid strawman argument you and Tel were throwing up. “An Opera House in every small town” . What a bullshit statement.

  38. Anne

    HydroxyChloroquine cures Cancer.

    http://qplusnews.com/hcq-reference-master-list

    A $250Billion Industry foiled by a $20 cure.

  39. Gab

    No one will be able to move more than 5km from their home

    And if the nearest supermarket is 7kms from home?

  40. JC

    I haven’t kept up. I didn’t know until now Microtheft had bought Linkedin. There are rumors they’re also buying the US side of Tik Tok.

    Microsoft would get another social-media business, following its purchase of LinkedIn, to compete with the other tech giants. For some reason, Microsoft was spared the hazing that Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google received this week on Capitol Hill. Yet its market capitalization is $1.55 trillion after Friday’s market close, more than Google’s and Facebook’s and barely behind Amazon’s $1.58 trillion.

    Microsoft has the resources to invest in TikTok and offer competition to Facebook, Snap and perhaps Google’s YouTube. One reality missed by the calls for breaking up the tech giants is how much competition they face from one another. This could be another example.

  41. notafan

    Hyperbole to illustrate the point.

    That was all.

    Not a straw man argument.

  42. JC

    Thanks Annie. Cronkite had posted earlier that Hydro not only cures cancer and the china bug. He’s also very positive towards the drug because it cures baldness and webbed toes – things he’s suffered from since birth.

  43. 132andBush

    Sorry,
    Tel @10:34
    rebuild a Sydney Opera House in every country town …

  44. MatrixTransform

    cures baldness and webbed toes

    Joe Grasso, I’m thinking of you

  45. notafan

    7 km firm a supermarket in Metro Melbourne.

    No food for you.

    I can’t believe they’re going to shut down construction.

    Any evidence that that industry is a disease spreader?

    When all they had to do was up the control around nursing homes.

    Yesterday deaths were three in their eighties and nineties.
    Not sure if all in nursing homes.

    I wonder if delivering home euthanasia is deemed an essential service.

    I bet it is.

  46. areff

    DIY yourself COVID “sub-vaccine”

    https://radvac.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/White-Paper-SARS-CoV-2-vaccine-ver-2-3-2.pdf

    George Church isn’t guaranteeing anything, but suspects it may do some good, as he’s using it himself.

  47. MatrixTransform

    The absolute shame of being a Victorian these days.

    mea culpa, mea culpa,
    mea máxima culpa.

  48. Ladyredneck

    Against my better judgment, I cant let numbers latest faux pas go by.

    Ever consider that the reduction in virus infections (including the common cold and influenza) might have something to do with the messages being propagated by the health authorities and the fact that the majority use common sense and follow them?

    This is what I was questioning, why are most other infectious respiratory diseases being controlled by goverment decree, but not corona? So the Victorian population MUST be doing enough hand washing, distancing and mask wearing etc to stop flu, colds and other illnesses spreading, but not enough to control corona. Its certainly a weird disease.

  49. 132andBush

    Hyperbole to illustrate the point.

    That was all.

    Not a straw man argument.

    No.
    You were clearly insinuating that’s what I and by extension anyone else who raises this issue is after.

    You then attack that manufactured premise.

    That’s called a strawman argument.

    Like your stupid parasite comments re city dwellers. That’s what you think we think of you all. Another strawman.

  50. MatrixTransform

    Its certainly a weird disease.

    so crafty you have to be tested to find out if you have it.

    and if you do … only a 99.9% chance of survival

  51. Tintarella di Luna

    Liberty quote Tinta (and it would be nice to see you soon).

    . Same here Cassie it’s been a little um … challenging to say the least so little time for calling in at the clowder — and now it seems to be getting worse not better —

  52. egg_

    If it is big city services you value most then the big city is were you should life.

    You just changed the crux of your statement.

    Welcome to the Cat goalpost-shifter-in-Chief!

  53. egg_

    Step 2 – putting words in your mouth.

    Sociopathy 101.

  54. Legalise Insurrection:

    A “COVID PASSPORT”?

    L.I. , I think you’re missing the big picture here – you’re not giving them blood – you’re giving them dNA. And that is a profound difference.
    The requirements and demands aren’t slowing down, they are becoming more extreme, and the rate is increasing.

  55. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No thrombolytics, so a less serious DVT. Treatable at home with a blood thinner, perhaps Eliquis.

    Grigs confirmed!

    Could be. He’s always concerned for my welfare. 🙂

    Not a memorable DVT like Hairy’s magnificent thigh to calf series of DVT’s in his first attack which produced giantism of the whole leg, just a smallish 12cm one in a peripheral branch, giving considerable pitting in the fluid surrounding, but still quite enough to kill me if mismanaged or unlucky. But it’s been well treated within a day or its appearance so you’re out of luck there, Grigs, if this concern to downgrade my pain is you. Not treated with Eliquis either. Hairy is permanently on that. He’s now off the rat poison (Warfarin) which is not used much these days. I get the whizbang new treatment which acts like Clexane, but you don’t have to inject it (hooray!). Double dose for three weeks, then three months on a lesser dose.

    So I still went to today’s party lunch, and lotsa people were there, mixing around, distributed across three areas, one of them a sheltered terrace with a fantastic headland view over a northern beach of note with the surf rolling in as it does. Two hardy souls down on the beach were testing out the water. Must be Norwegians we all concluded, as we raised glasses of pink wine to the birthday girl and held the two candles off the cake for her to blow out the number without Covid risks.

  56. areff

    It must be like living in a police state to be in Victoriastan just now. How long will people put up with it?

    Victorians put up with the banning of the flick pass (just to foil Teddy Whitten). We’ll put up with anything and everything.

    Interesting fact from the above link: There were 88 hand passes in the 1961 grand final. There’d be 88 in a single quarter these days

  57. Frank

    Little Timmy “The Beanie” Pool has more.

    He is a prolix little fucker isn’t he.

  58. Geriatric Mayfly

    Lights out Vic

    And yet a dim glow from a Turnbull light bulb; fishing seems to have escaped the vector hectors this time around.

  59. Nick

    The AFL ‘pride round’.
    Who cares about the sexuality of football goers? Seriously.

  60. JC

    This is what I was questioning, why are most other infectious respiratory diseases being controlled by goverment decree, but not corona? So the Victorian population MUST be doing enough hand washing, distancing and mask wearing etc to stop flu, colds and other illnesses spreading, but not enough to control corona. Its certainly a weird disease.

    It’s weird because it’s new to the repertoire. By all accounts that isn’t in dispute, it’s also extremely contagious. Apparentl, flu and colds are around 1 whereas this thing is around 2.5. Not good.

  61. egg_

    The Notaflu camp a few months back:

    For our remaining ‘it’s just a flue’ crowd: while there is still a lot of work to be done on the data, the numbers look awful. https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c

    It’s definitely more deadly than “just the flu” but the death toll figures are woefully inaccurate and could be lower still if we had free markets in healthcare.

    /IamBorisPeter

  62. Tintarella di Luna

    Victor Davis Hanson elegantly and eloquently captures what is happening in a short article: The Fragility of the Woke –

    Earlier generations went to college mainly to become educated and develop marketable skills. They weren’t very interested in ethnic and gender “studies” courses, ranting professors and woke administrators. For the students of the 1960s who were, protesting was a side dish to a good investment in an affordable college degree that would pay off later.

    But when such pathways are blocked, beware.

    The woke but godless, the arrogant but ignorant, the violent but physically unimpressive, the degreed but poorly educated, the broke but acquisitive, the ambitious but stalled — these are history’s ingredients of riot and revolution.

  63. notafan

    Tedious boregg

    I was never in the BorisG camp.

    Are you channelling srr in your vendetta running?

    Knock yourself out.

    Hopefully you can put up 93.1% of the posts on the open forum tonight.

  64. johanna

    Another weird thing among many about The New Black Plague.

    A single restaurant in NSW, Thai something, has been identified as a major vector. How come? There are thousands of restaurants in NSW, with tens to hundreds of thousands of patrons. Given that there must be a lot of asymptomatic or otherwise unidentified cases out there, who go to restaurants, how does a single restaurant become a hotspot producing multiple cases? It doesn’t make sense.

    Oh, and Areff, good to see you back, hope the well deserved hangover is not too crippling. Trust you saw the many expressions of support yesterday.

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    we raised glasses of pink wine to the birthday girl and held the two candles off the cake for her to blow out the number without Covid risks

    Harpy birdy two ewe, small Beare!
    😀

  66. egg_

    Anyone can be an expert on anything.

    Like citing a WA RC on Aborigines to suit the treatment of all Aborigines in rural Australia?

    That one?

  67. Farmer Gez

    Lights out Vic

    If only we had a Prime Minister who could take charge and have Chairman Dan put in a nice Covid drenched institution for delusional narcissists.

  68. egg_

    A straw man even.

    Yup, set up a straw man and beat him to death (Bible and handbag in hand).

  69. Tintarella di Luna

    Some abattoirs will close, so their may be a shortage of meat.

    Yes I heard that one from a reliable source tonight.

    Thank goodness for wheat meat and jackfruit then

  70. Some History

    Tear it down! Just rip it down.

    https://twitter.com/DickDelingpole/status/1289310634467721217

    It looked better when it was covered.

  71. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Victoriastan! Woo-Hoo!

    When too many mandatory face nappies are barely enough – enjoy being tuned into Dunderhead Dan Xi Man‘s nightly two minutes of hate where he expresses at grate length how his fellow Victoriastanians have let him down (again)! Then don’t go down to a hipster cafe serving tasteless overpriced cofffee from soy boy imbeciles with a piece of carpet stapled onto their stupid uglee faces or you’ll be fined many many VenOzee Pesos by our lovable Vikpol numbskulls!

    We just lerve it here in the world’s most livable Mogadishu, we tells ya!

    Yee-Hah! 💩 😺

  72. egg_

    The main way to counter a straw man is to point out its use, and to then ask your opponent to prove that your original stance and their distorted stance are identical, though in some situations you might also choose to either ignore your opponent’s strawman, or to simply accept it and continue the discussion.

  73. notafan

    Mr Bush

    You made disparaging remarks about accountants and cafes implying all city dwellers were useless parasites.

    All I was saying is it’s not possible to duplicate major city hospital services in every location. I have no idea why this makes you so angry. I thought Tel was using an exaggeration as illustrative.

    I do note that a couple of rural people have posted here this afternoon stating they have no expectation of specialist services in remote locations

    I don’t know why you came out of the blocks to attack my comment in a way that appeared pretty irascible.

    So yes I was right back at you.

    And now you’ve got egg dodging around your legs hissing and scritching at me.

    Yeah.

  74. notafan

    And FYI perhaps you could attack Tel about the Sydney Opera house comment strawegg, after all he made it.

  75. johanna

    The woke but godless, the arrogant but ignorant, the violent but physically unimpressive, the degreed but poorly educated, the broke but acquisitive, the ambitious but stalled — these are history’s ingredients of riot and revolution.

    Victor Davis Hansen is an American Treasure.

    I know that he writes a lot about military history, but have no expertise there. He also writes a lot about his home State of California, with articles underpinned by a lot of research and his own experience of many decades. His descriptions of the gradual political pollution and destruction of his beloved Golden State are compelling reading.

    Anyone who has spent a bit of time wandering around California knows that it is among the most glorious places on the planet. Thanks to the efforts of mostly Democrat politicians, it is being turned into a Third World hellhole, with the very rich enjoying its benefits while using private security guards to keep the homeless away from their gates.

  76. Leigh Lowe

    Eyrie.
    Thanks for the info on pilot maintenance activities.
    Long time ago so couldn’t remember precise details but I remember it being very minor stuff.
    I only ever rented aircraft and the owners soooo did not want unqualified people fucking with their aircraft … no matter how good they thought they were.
    A bit like my boat skipper. Doesn’t want “gifted amateur tinkerers” sticking their fingers in the pie.
    Three reasons.
    Safety.
    Warranty.
    Liability.
    Pilots are trained to do a thorough pre-flight walk around, read and understand the maintenance release and know and follow checklists (not just cursory box-ticking).
    Case in point of the opposite of that.
    The bloke who speared into DFO at Essendon taking out himself and four others was “too good for checklists”.
    Took off with rudder trim set hard left and the aircraft a teensy bit over MTOW.
    Four (4) separate checklists for that aircraft between pre-start and final pre-takeoff contain an item “trims – check set and neutral”
    But he was too much of an eggspert for shit like that.
    I wonder.
    Did someone make fun of him doing a checklist once, calling him a “HSE clipboarder”.

  77. Farmer Gez

    Tintarella di Luna
    #3531551, posted on August 1, 2020 at 7:47 pm
    Some abattoirs will close, so their may be a shortage of meat.

    Yes I heard that one from a reliable source tonight.

    Thank goodness for wheat meat and jackfruit then

    Damage Dan of course doesn’t realise that in closing down many abattoirs he will shut down nearly all livestock sales and therefore stock supply.
    Farmers will not try to sell their stock into a free falling market, caused by a huge reduction in kill capacity.

    “No meat for you.”

  78. egg_

    And FYI perhaps you could attack Tel…

    The final stage: incite others.

  79. rickw

    All construction work will stop.

    The Bat Eared Fuckwit really has no idea.

    The only thing keeping the sick Victorian economy going.

  80. johanna

    Good point, Spurge, we’re not hearing much about The World’s Most Liveable City slogan lately.

  81. egg_

    As.predictable.as.clockwork.

  82. Leigh Lowe

    Victorians put up with the banning of the flick pass …

    … or, as it is known East of Gordon St, “the throw”.
    Mind you, Teddy would be turning in his grave at the number of “quick hands” transfers we see these days.

  83. rickw

    Some abattoirs will close, so their may be a shortage of meat.

    Now the streets will run with blood and entrails as the ji – had – ists get fully into backyard slaughter.

    My new business is driving around Broady with a beard, dress and trailer full of sheep.

  84. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    we’re not hearing much about The World’s Most Liveable City slogan lately

    Indeed:

    The list for most livable cities of 2019 from The Economist Intelligence Unit’s Global Liveability Index has kept Vienna in the top spot for the second year, kicking out the previous first place holder, Mosquebourne out of its seven-year-long reign as the most livable city in the world.

    Joh – I know we’ve had our differences in the past, it is way past time to put them to rest. Squabbling among ourselves is pointless, especially when we exist on such a target rich planet.

  85. Tintarella di Luna

    Damage Dan of course doesn’t realise that in closing down many abattoirs he will shut down nearly all livestock sales and therefore stock supply.
    Farmers will not try to sell their stock into a free falling market, caused by a huge reduction in kill capacity.

    I should have put the /sarc tag on – what is going on is a travesty – and yet 52% of Vicotriastanis think the jug-eared imbecile is doing a good job —

  86. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    93.1% of Victoriastanians think the jug-eared imbecile is doing a good job

    🧐

  87. 132andBush

    Helen @ 4:12
    Hence my sponsoring a South African farmer and his family – someone who loves the land and is glad to be here. Visas applied for in early Jan, still waiting.

    How do we address the lack of basic services – I am not talking specialists here – I expect to travel to see them, and do – this is basic medical care, good teachers and more than one aging dentist? And this is all over regional Australia. What do we have to do to make it attractive for people to want to invest their life here?

    That’s great stuff re the South Africans!

    +1 on that last paragraph.

    What do we do?
    I don’t know.
    People can’t handle isolation/distance or just like the bright lights.

  88. johanna

    There are a couple of silver linings, albeit very slimline.

    One is that ‘universities’ are laying off staff and closing down campuses, thanks to the tap of overseas students with rich parents but no English being turned off. This is happening in the US and the UK as well. Good!

    Now we find that cheap French champagne (I refuse to let them own the name) is on the horizon:

    Producers in France’s eastern Champagne region, headquarters of the global industry, say they have lost an estimated 1.7 billion euros ($2.8 billion) in sales for this year, as turnover fell by a third — a hammering unmatched in living memory and worse than the Great Depression.
    Key points:

    Champagne producers say coronavirus presents a greater crisis than the Great Depression
    Pressure on the industry is predicted to last several years as the world waits for a vaccine
    As bars and nightclubs remain closed, sellers aim to market their products differently

    They expect about 100 million bottles to be languishing unsold in their cellars by the end of the year.

    For months, lockdown put the cork on weddings, dining out, parties and international travel — all key sales components for the French luxury wine marketed for decades as a sparkling must at any celebration.

    “We are experiencing a crisis that we evaluate to be even worse than the Great Depression [of 1929],” said Thibaut Le Mailloux of the Champagne Committee, known by its French acronym CIVC, that represents some 16,000 winemakers.

    Recognising the urgency of the problem, the CIVC is launching unprecedented damage-limitation measures.

    Like oil-producing countries, the committee regulates the size of the harvest each year to avoid the kind of excess production that would cause bottle prices to plummet.
    A waitress serves a glass of champagne.
    Enforced shutdowns worldwide are forcing producers to rethink their marketing strategies.(AP: Francois Mori)

    At a meeting scheduled for August 18, it’s expected to impose a cap so tight that record quantities of grapes will be destroyed or sold to distilleries at discounted prices.

    The prospect alarms smaller producers, who are more vulnerable than the big houses.

    Anselme Selosse, of Jacques Selosse Champagnes, called it “an insult to nature” that champagne’s famous grapes might even be destined to produce alcohol for hand sanitiser, as is happening in other wine-producing regions such as Alsace after demand spiked during the pandemic.

    “We are to destroy (the grapes) and we pay for them to be destroyed,” Mr Selosse said, referring to the industry as a whole. “It’s nothing but a catastrophe.”

    “Champagne has never lived through anything like this before, even in the world wars,” Mr Selosse added.

    Poor little petals! Le deluge!

    I like good French champers, but they shot themselves in the foot by insisting on owning the name. There are plenty of very fine producers of sparkling wine all over the world nibbling away at their market, including right here. Some of our sparkling pinots etc are very good indeed.

  89. johanna

    Ditto, Spurgeon. 🙂

  90. Farmer Gez

    One for Nota.

    At a summit in Albury last year it was stated that there is a shortage of 277 doctors in rural NSW.
    It would be nice to tally up the dead country folk who could have been saved by having the simple care of a GP against the Covid tally.

  91. cohenite

    Comparison between those countries using Hydroxy for the chunk virus and those which are not;

    https://twitter.com/niro60487270/status/1272636205142704129/photo/1

    Australia and new zealandistan do not feature in the graph but Australia’s position is here.

  92. Tintarella di Luna

    93.1% of Victoriastanians think the jug-eared imbecile is doing a good job

    🧐

    That many gullibles? surely not — so the 6.9% must be the ones who comment at the Cat.

  93. MatrixTransform

    “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”
    — The Great Covid by F. Scott Fitzpatrick

    “Tomorrow, I’ll think of some way to get him back. After all, tomorrow is another virus.”
    — Gone With the Covid

    “He loved Big Brother.”
    — Covid 1984 by George Orwellian

    “… barred by a black bank of clouds, and the tranquil waterway leading to the uttermost ends of the earth flowed sombre under an overcast sky – seemed to lead into the heart of an immense darkness.”
    — The Heart of Darkness by Joseph I told you so

    “Like a viral dog!” he said, it was as if the shame of it should outlive him.”
    — Franz Kafka, The Virus

    “There is more in man to admire than to despise.”
    — Camus, The plague

  94. MatrixTransform

    put the nutmeg in with 30 minutes to go
    it was outstanding

    … better

  95. Leigh Lowe

    93.1% of Victoriastanians think the jug-eared imbecile is doing a good job

    Hmmm.
    Not many I know.

  96. Yes Matrix Transform I heard that too. Dan Andrews just celebrating Ardern’s birthday by bringing her shit here. Hat tip to those who said as much earlier.
    Victorians have had a gutful for sure, but a lot don’t want to say it. ‘May as well just wear masks’ they say, oblivious to ever expanding demands from the government to comply with their musings.

  97. Rockdoctor

    Tinta got family members in that alleged 6.9%. Rather suspect though that that said 6.9% might be a tad underdone…

  98. notafan

    What’s stopping GPs from working in private practices in regional NSW Farmer Gez?

    I’m sure it’s not me.

    And I know there are lots of rural doctor schemes offering financial inducements to work outside the big city.

  99. 1735099
    #3531444, posted on August 1, 2020 at 6:22 pm

    Following on from redneck lady’s post about comparisons between the chunk virus and other diseases someone has done a comparison between 2019 and 2020 which shows every other disease has reduced by enormous amounts since the chunk virus took hold. I’ll post some graphs later.

    Ever consider that the reduction in virus infections (including the common cold and influenza) might have something to do with the messages being propagated by the health authorities and the fact that the majority use common sense and follow them?

    Very basic risk minimisation behaviours (social distancing, hand hygiene etc) can make a significant difference if enough people follow them.

    We are social beings, and part of a society, not an economy.
    This particular cluebat is booting the Glibertarians right up the backside.

    Actually dickhead, you’re totally wrong.

    Met up with a friend who moved last year, she started with the elbow nonsense, then said, “no, stuff it, give me a hug”.

    Even my friends who are likely to be lefties and call conservatives “Karens” are sick of this nonsense.

    Normal people aren’t following the stupid rules anymore or they are becoming blase about it.

    We’re not closer for abandoning thousands of years of cultural evolution.

    Restricting funerals or weddings to 10 people, is demented nonsense.

    Three people in their 80s died in Victoria from suspected COVID complications yesterday.

    Big deal. It means absolutely nothing. Old people die. That’s part of being human.

    “We’re social beings, let’s live in a police state with no human contact”

    Fuck off you useless old barnacle.

  100. Peoples

    I tells yas

    I will keep posting until I see others are vomiting in terror.

    New COVID Tracking Requires You To Give Your Blood If You Want To Do ANYTHING

    100,186 views
    •Jul 31, 2020
    Timcast
    791K subscribers

  101. Dick Pussy did nothing wrong.

    Well a little.

    But the truck “driver” is far, far worse.

    Allegedly.

  102. notafan

    Scomo should say no to funding a stage 4 lockdown.

    Sort out the nursing home debacle ( because that is all it really is) and tell Dan to just stop it.

    Gladys didn’t close down NSW because a nursing home had a large number of corona virus deaths.

  103. MatrixTransform

    Dick Pussy did nothing wrong.

    he fanged it too much, but the truck driver was fanging it more

  104. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Not many I know.

    You appear to be among the eleventy six point nine percent of Viktoriastanians who beg to differ. Our indefatigable “opinion correctors” will be out there soon, gifting you and your confreres an “extra special” stroogle session. 😈

    Comrade.

  105. The owner of the truck that caused the Eastern Freeway shit apparently has been clinked. Any truth to that?

  106. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    The owner of the truck that caused the Eastern Freeway shit apparently has been clinked. Any truth to that?

    Bludddee hell – yet another victim of Aussie racism, BB

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The owner of the truck that caused the Eastern Freeway shit apparently has been clinked. Any truth to that?

    That might be the explanation – isn’t the driver already in the tronk?

  108. Boambee John

    Winston Smith
    #3531533, posted on August 1, 2020 at 7:31 pm
    Legalise Insurrection:

    A “COVID PASSPORT”?

    L.I. , I think you’re missing the big picture here – you’re not giving them blood – you’re giving them dNA. And that is a profound difference.
    The requirements and demands aren’t slowing down, they are becoming more extreme, and the rate is increasing.

    And where are our usually vociferous snivel libertarians (h/t John Laws) as the government, with the phone app and this, collects a data base on the population that the CCP would envy?

  109. Just walked into the lounge retrieving a wine, caught the arse end of the news snippets. Pretty sure they said the owner.

  110. rickw

    Met up with a friend who moved last year, she started with the elbow nonsense, then said, “no, stuff it, give me a hug”.

    Poor old bugger living down the end of the street, we stopped shaking hands for a bit, then after a while I thought stuff it. He was so delighted the first time I shook his hand again.

  111. Anne posted this before.

    Some of the papers seem to have remarkable research results.

    http://qplusnews.com/hcq-reference-master-list

    71. Mansilla E, Marin GH, Nunez L, Drago H, Sturla F, Mertz C et al (2010) The lysosomotropic agent, hydroxychloroquine, delivered in a biodegradable nanoparticle system, overcomes drug resistance of B-chronic lymphocytic leukemia cells in vitro. Cancer Biother Radiopharm 25(1):97–103

    75. Zheng Y, Zhao YL, Deng X, Yang S, Mao Y, Li Z et al (2009) Chloroquine inhibits colon cancer cell growth in vitro and tumor growth in vivo via induction of apoptosis. Cancer Invest 27(3):286–292

    76. Sasaki K, Tsuno NH, Sunami E, Tsurita G, Kawai K, Okaji Y et al (2010) Chloroquine potentiates the anti-cancer effect of 5-fluorouracil on colon cancer cells. BMC Cancer 10:370

    80. Solomon VR, Lee H (2009) Chloroquine and its analogs: a new promise of an old drug for effective and safe cancer therapies. Eur J Pharmacol 625(1–3):220–233

  112. I think you’re missing the big picture here – you’re not giving them blood – you’re giving them dNA.

    I’m not, but that should be shouted from the the rooftops as well.

    “New COVID Tracking Requires You To Give Your Blood If You Want To Do ANYTHING”

    Bloody hell. Welcome to East Germany.

  113. calli

    Joh – I know we’ve had our differences in the past, it is way past time to put them to rest. Squabbling among ourselves is pointless, especially when we exist on such a target rich planet.

    🍾🎉🥂

  114. Tel

    Victoria’s Bat Eared Cockhead Crisis continues. Just remember folks, it’s all your fault!

    It’s your fault unless you happen to be campaigning against Trump, while pretending to care about some guy who died in gaol many years ago. In that case feel free to spread around any virus you like and keep the crisis chugging along nicely.

  115. Knuckle Dragger

    Superb timing BB:

    Police have today arrested a trucking company employee as part of a sweeping investigation into the horrific Eastern Freeway smash that left four police officers dead.

    ‘Major collision investigation unit detectives detained the man from the Connect Logistics firm, four months into a complex inquiry into the April 22 tragedy.’

  116. 132andBush

    Mr Bush

    You made disparaging remarks about accountants and cafes implying all city dwellers were useless parasites.

    No, I didn’t. I believe nearly every job/business is essential in one way or another in a healthy economy save for 30% or so of the public sector.

    All I was saying is it’s not possible to duplicate major city hospital services in every location. I have no idea why this makes you so angry. I thought Tel was using an exaggeration as illustrative.

    Who the hell has said they want major city hospital services in every location?!
    This is your straw man.
    Also your comment from this morning “Exactly how could that sustain a full range of resident medical specialists.” Made as though in answer to a demand or question. Again, your straw man.

    I do note that a couple of rural people have posted here this afternoon stating they have no expectation of specialist services in remote locations
    Count me as one of them.

    I don’t know why you came out of the blocks to attack my comment in a way that appeared pretty irascible.

    Because it was a stupid comment, full of condescension and rural people are sick of people like you (and Tel) telling us we can’t “have it all “, as if we don’t already bloody well know that!!

  117. johanna

    Does anyone have information about the quality of the masks that that residents of the former East Berlin, now known as Victoriastan, are wearing?

  118. Farmer Gez

    notafan
    #3531598, posted on August 1, 2020 at 8:38 pm
    What’s stopping GPs from working in private practices in regional NSW Farmer Gez?

    I’m sure it’s not me.

    And I know there are lots of rural doctor schemes offering financial inducements to work outside the big city.

    It’s not about you or money. Rural doctors make a killing.
    Many don’t want to go to the bush because they haven’t the back up of all the technologies available in the cities.
    They also don’t want to be tied down in towns and take on the responsibility that is required without considerable backup support.

    Specialists are also in short supply for the same reasons. Very large rural centres can’t get specialists to come or to replace the retired.

    You would expect that with the vast sums of taxpayer money supplied to doctors to enable them to ply their trade that some of them would actually venture outside the major urban areas.

    The Poms tie provider numbers to geographic areas so the medicos can’t all congregate in London and expect to be funded by the taxpayer for their lifestyle choices.

  119. Boambee John

    johanna

    No, but I suspect that they vary between marginally useful in the very short term to more dangerous than going without.

    Their only real benefit to the population at large is that they confuse the surveillance cameras.

  120. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From MatrixTransform at 6:52 pm:

    “What I heard …

    no confirmation yet
    Metropolitan Melbourne will move to stage 4 restrictions (likely 12:00am Wednesday)
    This will be a New Zealand style lockdown that will last for at least 6 weeks. …”

    Bloody terrible how the government / the main stream media is scaring the people unnecessarily, eh?

  121. Knuckle Dragger

    At this juncture I’d like to highlight the understatement of the millennium, brought to readership attention by JC at midday:

    ‘the father of two was “completely gutted” when his penis fell off’

  122. Entropy

    Will Pusey or the truck driver get the bigger sentence?

  123. 132andBush

    At this juncture I’d like to highlight the understatement of the millennium, brought to readership attention by JC at midday:

    ‘the father of two was “completely gutted” when his penis fell off’

    It was on his arm, wasn’t it?
    An “armis”.

  124. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They also don’t want to be tied down in towns and take on the responsibility that is required without considerable backup support.

    They also claim it’s like living in a fishbowl – it’s not unknown for them to be bailed up in public by the local swampies wanting to know why they are having time off, “while my child has to wait a week to see you..”

  125. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Anne posted this before.

    Hopefully not from the foul depths of a Kampuchean jungle, Squire.

  126. Leigh Lowe

    Rockdoctor

    #3531597, posted on August 1, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    Tinta got family members in that alleged 6.9%. Rather suspect though that that said 6.9% might be a tad underdone…

    Well, doc, this is only a bit of a straw poll but I think it goes like this:-
    1. A tiny percentage believe that Dan is part of the Big Conspiracy (I don’t know any personally) and engineering the whole thing.
    2. A pretty good chunk (maybe 30-40%) think he is a fuck-up on roller skates. To be fair, a lot of those thought that pre Kung Flu.
    3. Probably another 30-40% think he is a helpless passenger in the whole thing, but admit that he is, at least to an extent, fucking up and covering up.
    4. Maybe 10-20% (Rustadons) think he is doing a top job.

  127. notafan

    Mr Bush

    Well I was addressing an essay that was apparently, in part, suggesting that the services that the author personally and those in similar situations would like to access should be conveniently available, irrespective of where they chose to live.

    I was simply extrapolating that all such wishes could not be satisfied.

    Numbers ran a similar line a few months ago.

    To me it was another example of someone demanding the taxpayer put their hands in their pocket to fund their personal preferences.

    Last week it was out of normal hours child care.

    It’s like every problem should have a taxpayer funded solution.

  128. Entropy

    Legalise Sedition
    #3531617, posted on August 1, 2020 at 8:59 pm
    I think you’re missing the big picture here – you’re not giving them blood – you’re giving them dNA.

    I’m not, but that should be shouted from the the rooftops as well.

    “New COVID Tracking Requires You To Give Your Blood If You Want To Do ANYTHING”

    Bloody hell. Welcome to East Germany.

    thatis quite a stupid conspiracy theory there LS.

    Totally uncalled for and unnecessary.

    You realise there is no need for Covid for us to get your DNS’s for our nefarious and undisclosed purposes.
    If you have ever given us your blood as a donation, or for a test for whatever, we already have it! Bwwahahahahhhahaa!

  129. Leigh Lowe

    ‘Major collision investigation unit detectives detained the man from the Connect Logistics firm, four months into a complex inquiry into the April 22 tragedy.’

    Very soon he will cease being a free range chicken van man.

  130. Black Ball:

    Victorians have had a gutful for sure, but a lot don’t want to say it. ‘May as well just wear masks’ they say, oblivious to ever expanding demands from the government to comply with their musings.

    We are not taking into account the truism that “Coming to agreement with a bully on an issue is not the end of the demands. It is the starting point of the next lot.”

  131. No sorry I don’t accept that.

    Blood donations aren’t kept forever.

    Is a viable DNA sample kept for what is taken for (and then left over) for screening, kept indefinitely?

    You could have to give blood to cross a border. Each time.

    It also won’t be voluntary (unlike blood donations), and I doubt a mass surveillance programme will respect privacy laws (and courtesy) as the blood bank currently does.

  132. calli

    Didn’t the devil, or a witch, make him do it?

    The police were clearly unimpressed.

  133. notafan

    Interesting Farmer Gez.

    My experience, with rare exceptions is that bulk bill is factory medicine, six minutes and if it requires the slightest effort you get the flick. Iirc when we’ve had this discussion previously external sources suggest some metro areas have an oversupply of GPs. Usual suspects.

    Had this always been a problem in rural areas or is it a more recent thing?

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Will Pusey or the truck driver get the bigger sentence?

    What?
    Longest stretch?
    Dick Pussey – $501.00.
    Chicken Van Man – unbackable.
    After all the dust has settled, Pussey will probably go to court in September and walk with time already served.
    He just has to look and sound contrite.

  135. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘You realise there is no need for Covid for us to get your DNS’s’

    What’s a DNS?

    Is this like TAFKAS’ post the other day where he thought Big Gummint was sifting through sewage treatment plants to get citizens’ DNA profile from shit?

  136. Top Ender

    Saturday night in Danistan:

    Dramatic scenes have unfolded in a Cranbourne street where anti-maskers had planned a large gathering.

    It’s understood police smashed in the window of a young female driver’s car after she refused to speak to police about 6.30pm.

    The incident unfolded on Smethurst St in Cranbourne where dozens of anti-maskers had planned a large gathering at the Combat Athlete gym at 6pm.

    The woman was seen shouting saying: “Excuse me, this is unlawful.”

    Police then smashed her window and arrested her, but let her go a short time later and she drove off.

    It’s unclear if the woman was attending the meeting.

    At this stage, no large groups of people have been seen.

    A huge police presence remains on every corner of Smethurst St.

    Herald-Sun

  137. Leigh Lowe

    Didn’t the devil, or a witch, make him do it?

    A witch ran out in front of the truck.
    No mention of whether she was carrying a Viking firepit shovel or not.
    Anyway, I call bullshit.
    There is a dedicated witches crossing just 100 metres up the road.
    Why would she risk crossing there?

  138. MatrixTransform

    Bloody terrible how the government / the main stream media is scaring the people unnecessarily, eh?

    same as last time.
    The Crazy Old Mole got it from a mole, who has mole

    gawd knows if it true
    we shall find out

  139. Leigh Lowe

    It’s understood police smashed in the window of a young female driver’s car after she refused to speak to police about 6.30pm.

    The Chief Commissioner is expected to announce on Monday that VicPol have entered a sponsorship arrangement with Windscreens O’Brien.

  140. NoFixedAddress

    notafan
    #3531637, posted on August 1, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    Mr Bush

    Well I was addressing an essay that was apparently, in part, suggesting that the services that the author personally and those in similar situations would like to access should be conveniently available, irrespective of where they chose to live.

    provide the quote from that essay where that was stated.

  141. 132andBush

    Well I was addressing an essay that was apparently, in part, suggesting that the services that the author personally and those in similar situations would like to access should be conveniently available, irrespective of where they chose to live.

    Seriously?
    That’s what you got from it?

    You have a very jaundiced view of the author and rural people in general.
    A lot of people do.

  142. Entropy

    The GP shortage has always been a thing.
    Mist GPS are city kids who only did medicine because they were smart at school, and it was expected. Or their parents are GPs.most of them grow up in the city. Even with the special allowances for country kids,scholarships etc. which mostly go to girls, who have grown up knowing they are better off marrying a city doctor or lawyer and Never Ever going back to the farm. They might get one of their friends to marry their brother but.

    The upside of a country GP is the variety of jobs they get, and the extra pay. The downside is the variety of jobs they get, with no support, and living in a fishbowl. In the end they would rather take a pay cut.

  143. rickw

    Homework for all Victorians:

  144. Leigh Lowe

    It’s your fault unless you happen to be campaigning against Trump, while pretending to care about some guy who died in gaol many years ago

    A few people have been known to overdose in jail.
    He was the first to OD on Tim-Tams, but.

  145. Farmer Gez

    Had this always been a problem in rural areas or is it a more recent thing?

    At the same conference in Albury it was stated that the time of the country GP was finished. They looked at rotating visiting doctors and more air transport to major centres.
    The last twenty years has probably been the era of big declines. It coincides with the advancements in technology that take a lot of the onus for diagnosis from doctors.

    All the medical profession are gun shy of litigation and they face ever increasing premiums for liability insurance.

  146. rickw

    The Chief Commissioner is expected to announce on Monday that VicPol have entered a sponsorship arrangement with Windscreens O’Brien.

    A bloke I know’s brother was in glass. Made a lot of money from Vicpol through emergency repairs. When the local crims weren’t keeping up their end of the bargain, Vicpol helped fill the gap.

  147. johanna

    There is a balance required between services available to people in remote and regional areas and what is attainable.

    While the libertarnians may fuminate, I agrre with mandated services up to a point.

    Lyndon Johnson grew up in a remote part of Texas with no electricity, and when he got into the local House he created the notion of universal service provision for utlilities. People in Houston were getting rich, while his family had no chance of ever getting electricity, so he stepped in.

    To this day, stupid libertarians claim that those people should not have got access to electricity unless they had thousands of dollars to pay for it. Which they didn’t.

    Libertarians have no notion of nation building:

  148. Leigh Lowe

    Dramatic scenes have unfolded in a Cranbourne street 

    Cranbourne.
    Top spot.

  149. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘smashed in the window of a young female driver’s car’

    no. No no no no. Conveyance.

    They smashed in the window of a young female driver’s conveyance. To which she did not consent.

  150. William the Conjuror

    Bat Eared
    jug-eared

    Ladies please? Glass houses. Those of you well-endowed in the auricular department tend to hide your misfortune with a hairstyle. Non è così?

  151. Helen

    Through out the NT specialists are largely fly in fly out. They fly in for clinics from Bris or Adelaide, mainly or we fly out to see them.
    There is some tele clinic from Darwin to katherine.

    But I am talking about your regular GP. The one you have known for years who knows you and your family and the background of your medical condition/s so you dont have to explain it all over every time you go see someone and they are new. That is more than six minutes right there.

    The GP you can get to with a taxi and a wheelie walker. It is not the money, it is the recruitment. No-one wants to come. I suspect it is a supply and demand situation. It is difficult to specialise in the regions, although my wonderful recently retired GP went off and learned surgery after a young woman lost her life because she had to be transferred to Darwin many years ago.

    Nota, you mentioned you knew of incentives for regional Drs, Id be obliged if you would share what they are. I am genuinely looking for answers here.

    Do we have enough Drs graduating as GPs? Or are they mainly chasing the high end specialities?

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Ha ha rickw.
    That was what prompted the thought.
    Although I thought that died out in the 80’s and 90’s.

  153. To this day, stupid libertarians claim that those people should not have got access to electricity unless they had thousands of dollars to pay for it. Which they didn’t.

    No, just no public funds.

    People willingly move away from services these days, and you continue to wrongly claim they want to be subsidised by you.

    People who don’t want to get connected to services get litigated by service providers in the US now.

    You don’t understand this at all.

  154. rickw

    Does anyone have information about the quality of the masks that that residents of the former East Berlin, now known as Victoriastan, are wearing?

    Dickhead Dan said it could be any sort of face covering. Home made is fine….

  155. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    2021 – following their successful subjugation of the planet in 2020, the Extra Terrestrial Lizard Peoples commence their super serious probing program:

    ETLP: So, what is this preposterous concept you earthlings refer to as Rock ‘n’ Roll?

    Pol Dot: This, fishface.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    They smashed in the window of a young female driver’s conveyance.

    Please.
    They “enhanced the cross flow ventilation characteristics of her conveyance”.
    Going to be cool driving around Cranbourne with some glazing missing.

  157. johanna

    Sorry, forget that version, here is the matchless original:

  158. Farmer Gez

    GPs.most of them grow up in the city. Even with the special allowances for country kids,scholarships etc. which mostly go to girls

    Good point Entropy.
    The predominance of women in medicine has worsened the situation. Not a good look for the the earth mother myth, so it’s a fact that’s never discussed in the open.

    A retiring Vet told me exactly the same story. He’s a very left wing guy as well.

  159. rickw

    Ha ha rickw.
    That was what prompted the thought.
    Although I thought that died out in the 80’s and 90’s.

    That’s exactly when it was!

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Dickhead Dan said it could be any sort of face covering. Home made is fine….

    I heard that.
    Nearly fell off my chair.
    Scarves, bandanas, whatevs.
    FMD.

  161. 132andBush

    Had this always been a problem in rural areas or is it a more recent thing?

    Just getting incrementally worse, notafan.

    Maybe it’s a symptom of an ever more urbanised society.

  162. Zyconoclast

    Lyndon Johnson grew up in a remote part of Texas with no electricity, and when he got into the local House he created the notion of universal service provision for utlilities. People in Houston were getting rich, while his family had no chance of ever getting electricity, so he stepped in.

    Is that why he arranged the hit on Kennedy.
    Kennedy being a rich bastard who could afford electricity.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    I know a bloke who knows a copper re the glass thing.
    Spontaneous collapse of the molecular glass structures.
    Even getting the temporary riblock hoarding put over the window cost a bomb.
    A lotta, lotta people were getting a drink out of that one.

  164. rickw

    I heard that.
    Nearly fell off my chair.
    Scarves, bandanas, whatevs.
    FMD.

    My mask collection consists of an N95, a choice of blue and red paisley bandannas for the spaghetti western look, and a black reaper tube for when shit gets real.

  165. Snoopy

    I heard that.
    Nearly fell off my chair.
    Scarves, bandanas, whatevs.
    FMD.

    A stocking.

  166. notafan

    No I don’t have a jaundiced view of rural people in general.

    I was responding to an essay from someone who appears to have political ambitions and apparently lived for a number of years in Canberra.

    That is all.

  167. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘A bloke I know’s brother was in glass. Made a lot of money from Vicpol through emergency repairs.’

    Ahem. Allegedly, apparently and according to rumour:

    Inner Melbourne wallopers, when encountering a smashed business window front in the wee hours circa early 90s would contact an on-call glazier to repair the thing or board it up until morning. After the jacks made sure they weren’t boarding up a crook in the shop, and to make sure nobody waltzed in and pinched stuff, because they didn’t necessarily want to stand around all night outside an insecure premises.

    The glazier would charge the business the callout fee and labour, materials and so on. So far so good.

    Then an enterprising glazier or two visited a few stations and said how awesome it would be if the cops just called them instead of any old glazier in the middle of the night. In return the glazier threw a few contributions towards the station’s social fund. A few slabs, a pile of steaks or snags. Still – so far so good.

    Sigh. Then, the glaziers started both charging businesses like wounded bulls, and waving a pineapple at the jacks who rang them up, and THEN when a VERY small group of now-ex-cops decided they needed some walking around cash – some businesses magically had their windows busted at 2.00 a.m. An economic stimulus, if you will.

    And THEN one of them decided he deserved a bigger bit of the pie because it was his idea, the others told him to go fuck himself and then it got in the papers and then everyone got charged and sacked and there were no more phone calls to individual glaziers because D24 kept a roster where everyone got a go and the cops had to find other ways to fund their night shift BBQs.

    Allegedly.

  168. notafan

    In any case the UK system of tying provider
    numbers to regions is a neat solution.

    Especially now when we have all gotten to enjoy telemedicine.

  169. Leigh Lowe

    I am looking for a Yasser Arafat black and white terrorist scarf.
    Or I do have a for reals Venetian carnival mask someone gave me.
    Not sure what it’s “N rating” is.
    Not very high I think.

  170. egg_

    From one of our “betters”

    Leigh Lowe
    #3369273, posted on March 22, 2020 at 2:41 pm

    Firstly, to call you “Typhoid Lizzie” to point out the stupidity of going on a cruise right now.
    That’s me vindicated on that score I think you will agree.

    LockDanMan!

  171. notafan

    Helen

    There are incentives for students via lower entry requirements if they committ to working in specified rural areas.

    I’ll find the other and link it but it’s for foreign doctors I think.

  172. Barry

    If you had a Covid-19 test where they took a nasal / throat swab, they already have your DNA on file.

    How do you think they find the family contacts ?- they have been using Ancestry.com and 23andMe.com etc.

    Asking you your contacts is merely politeness, they already have vastly more information than you can imagine.

  173. Megan

    Does anyone have information about the quality of the masks that that residents of the former East Berlin, now known as Victoriastan, are wearing

    Anything. I’ve seen old socks repurposed, scarves, motorcycle snoods, Bunnings plastic dust ones, paper towel, and every possible permutation of home made fabric jobbies using nanny’s old frocks or the latest Marriner from some expensive online fabric provider. The SP is wearing a bandanna and looks like Cool Hand Luke on a mission to liberate $$$ from a bank. I have a face shield which is ok for short missions, like bread or milk, but I cannot tolerate for anything longer like supermarkets.

    Diesel mechanics are in for a bonanza…all those particulate filters blocking up because of not enough driving.

  174. Megan

    Marrimeko! Not Marriner! My iPad legitimate replacement program is fashion ignorant to a fault!

  175. thefrollickingmole

    A number of smaller towns should be able to get by with a silver chain/ medic with a decent pharmacy backup and decent comms to contact docs for harder stuff.
    Not ideal but it gets about 50% of the caseload a doc would see treated quickly.
    With decent comms you can handle about 2/3 of what’s left over.
    So a place like I’m at runs on a paramedic & nurse with monthly drop ins by our servicing doc.
    Still leaves people having to drive 500 km for stuff we can’t manage or RFDS for more time critical stuff.
    I think a large part of the problem country people have is you get stuck with a different doc quite often when you are remotely serviced. Makes continuity of care difficult.

  176. Farmer Gez

    notafan
    #3531685, posted on August 1, 2020 at 9:56 pm
    In any case the UK system of tying provider
    numbers to regions is a neat solution.

    Especially now when we have all gotten to enjoy telemedicine.

    Can’t be done because of the all powerful doctors union, the AMA, won’t even contemplate the idea.
    The same ones who are happy locking the country down to save lives.

  177. egg_

    Pilots are trained to do a thorough pre-flight walk around, read and understand the maintenance release and know and follow checklists (not just cursory box-ticking).

    It likely presupposes some mechanical aptitude – safety n all.

    Air Force pilots all do a BSc IIRC.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    KD at 9:56.
    Shorter version.
    Chaps who were in tow-trucks in the 1970’s “pivoted” into glazing in the 1980’s and took their business model with them.

  179. johanna

    Legalise Sedition
    #3531670, posted on August 1, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    To this day, stupid libertarians claim that those people should not have got access to electricity unless they had thousands of dollars to pay for it. Which they didn’t.

    No, just no public funds.

    People willingly move away from services these days, and you continue to wrongly claim they want to be subsidised by you.

    People who don’t want to get connected to services get litigated by service providers in the US now.

    You don’t understand this at all.

    No, dot, it is you who don’t get it.

    Do you imagine that why you get mobile phone coverage across most of this vast continent is because it is profitable? It isn’t. It’s because the Commonwealth and State and local governments funded mobile phone towers in thousands of uneconomic locations. I know that, because I was involved in funding them.

    Like electricity in Texas, it is a building block for economic development, not a handout.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Homework for all Victorians:

    Interesting link, rickw, thank you.

    FWIW, in the “Legion Du Papa” a rifle section was ten men – at full strength – you needed three to one to achieve any success – any section commander who took on a machine gun had to have a bloody good explanation – I notice no talk of “Lock and load?”

  181. NoFixedAddress

    The AMA is a union and have always looked to regulate numbers and Specialists are the rock stars of medical practitioners.

    Pharmacists are a cartel and made sure that legislation gave them protection from the evils of Coles or Woollies.

    Doctors do not want to go into the bush because of isolation from their peers, lack of facilities to raise a family, whatever.

  182. rickw

    This has a bit of a slow start, but it’s awesome:

  183. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    notafan#3531598, posted on August 1, 2020 at 8:38 pm
    What’s stopping GPs from working in private practices in regional NSW Farmer Gez?
    I’m sure it’s not me.
    And I know there are lots of rural doctor schemes offering financial inducements to work outside the big city.

    Farmer Gez #3531626, posted on August 1, 2020 at 9:09 pm
    It’s not about you or money. Rural doctors make a killing.

    Dentistry suffers the same malady.
    At the peak of the shortage (circa 2012) when the wait for a dental appointment was up to Nine Months (though an appointment for a dental emergency could usually be seen in as little as three weeks) – btw, the nine month wait for an appointment was for existing patients only, no dental practice was taking on new patients under any circumstances.

    …. he kindly old fellow who had me as a patient – he was interesting & good for a discussion – especially about how dentistry had changed a helluva lot in the past 40 yrs he’d been practising – & he was talking about how distressing it was to be making people wait so long.

    … so I asked “the stupid question” – why didn’t he get someone to help him?
    He of course had been trying, including offering half the practice to fresh graduates – “I can’t offer any more than that” he bleated helplessly – “… and they can make as much money as they want – we’re so swamped you can work 12 hrs x 7 days if you want, & charge double the going rate or more, yet I cannot interest even one fresh graduate – as soon as they discover the location they terminate the phone call – without ever asking about professional development or expected income”

  184. Leigh Lowe

    It likely presupposes some mechanical aptitude – safety n all.

    Mmmyes.
    Although the main thing you are looking for is items which have gone u/s, which don’t necessarily ground your flight, but might need to be worked around.
    You do take everything said here quite literally don’t you?

  185. Nick

    I shocked I say, shocked.

  186. egg_

    More:

    JC
    #3421702, posted on April 21, 2020 at 12:02 am

    Even the unemployment rate is unrealistically high, because it being forced by governments. Most people are on some sort of furlough. They aren’t jobless because there’s been an major financial crisis. It’s different, but it’s not without huge risk.

  187. 132andBush

    Ok, notafan,
    So can you quote, highlight, refer to where the author says, (to quote you) “the services that the author personally and those in similar situations would like to access should be conveniently available, irrespective of where they chose to live.” ?

    Don’t bother looking because you won’t find it.
    Vicki states a few examples of how it is and then writes “It’s a reality of country life; we don’t have enough medical experts.

    Not hard to understand.

    Unless you have a jaundiced view of rural people.

  188. egg_

    You do take everything said here quite literally don’t you?

    Step 2 – words in mouth.

    You’re not the sharpest tool in this shed, old man.
    /Hairdressers flying planes

  189. Knuckle Dragger

    I was going to mention towies, but not in the 70s.

    After that lurk for them finished (another centrally-controlled roster) they went for the simpler model.

    Which was fuck the roster, race each other to prangs and massage each other with 12″ spanners and holding rods in a sort of procurement-based focus group.

  190. rickw

    Allegedly.

    That pretty much lines up with the story from the glazier end!

  191. egg_

    I shocked I say, shocked.

    Good ol’ dependable Headmaster brings up the rear.

  192. Fisky

    6 weeks of Stage 4 lockdown in Vic.

  193. thefrollickingmole

    KD
    Reminds me of Port Hedland detention centre.
    Bloke running the glaziers was minting it. Every riot was 10+ windows smashed and most individual kickoffs were started by the ritual sacrifice of a pane of glass.

    The spastics in charge decided to go Perspex for the mess which lead to officers having “ knives” of the crap to worry about when it was broken.

    I would love to know how much the glazier made while the joint was open.

  194. NoFixedAddress

    notafan
    #3531683, posted on August 1, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    No I don’t have a jaundiced view of rural people in general.

    I was responding to an essay from someone who appears to have political ambitions and apparently lived for a number of years in Canberra.

    That is all.

    and you let your squirrels loose and conflated what she was saying into your envy button issues to attack her.

  195. Nick

    Geelong/Weagles game is interesting

  196. egg_

    Mr Bush

    You made disparaging remarks about accountants and cafes implying all city dwellers were useless parasites.

    Oh noes!!!

  197. Fisky
    #3531715, posted on August 1, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    6 weeks of Stage 4 lockdown in Vic.

    Yep, who shorted the USD?

    Time to take a bath fellas.

  198. egg_

    your envy button issues

    Recall the odd response to several of us discussing JC’s “check engine” light issue.

  199. Farmer Gez

    Fisky
    #3531715, posted on August 1, 2020 at 10:13 pm
    6 weeks of Stage 4 lockdown in Vic.

    Andrews and his team must be removed from office.
    If this is a result of talks with ScoMo, then he needs to go as well.

  200. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sorry, forget that version, here is the matchless original:

    That was playing on the sound system, the night the Memsahib and I decided to set up house together – thirty five years ago.

  201. egg_

    That is all.

    Thanks.

    We can all stand down now, Sergeant Major?

  202. notafan

    In other words Mr Bush

    She said exactly what I said she said.

    And I responded by saying
    it would not be viable to have every kind of medical expert in the bush.

    If for no other reason than lots of them need access to highly specialised equipment in large hospitals in order to do their work.

  203. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Andrews and his team must be removed from office.

    Being dragged out into Spring Street, administered a lengthy flogging and then hanged is one thing, but how are you Victoriastanians going to do this?

    By collectively summoning the Spirit of Sir Henry Bolte?

  204. notafan

    Troll 1, Troll 2 reporting for duty.

  205. 132andBush

    In other words Mr Bush

    She said exactly what I said she said.

    Oh.
    My.
    God.

    Over to you, egg_
    I’m too tired for this.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    You’re not the sharpest tool in this shed, old man.
    /Hairdressers flying planes

    Envy of other’s achievements and lifestyles.
    Sad egg.
    Need to check old log book for exact numbers but logged a bit over 2,000 hours without a hint of an incident or accident. However I trained with a bloke who was extremely confident of his superior knowledge of engines and systems. I think he might have had a science or engineering degree. Shit-hot at everything. Gonna join Qantas. Thought the Flying School should be “more professional” (ie chuck out private recreational pilots).
    Anyway he moved up and on.
    Commercial licence, IFR, multi engine.
    All going beautifully.
    Until he speared in a charter flight in Tassie.
    Five fatalities.

  207. Knuckle Dragger

    Three points in it. I’m genuinely torn.

    Of course I loathe West Coast. But it’s Geelong.

  208. Farmer Gez

    Andrews is dumb enough to think the NZ lockdown will work in Melbourne.
    Our new Australians have ignored every other direction up to now, why would they suddenly become caring community members now?

  209. egg_

    envy button issues

    Constipation, Mitch?
    The “Metamucil Militia” might be onto something?

  210. NoFixedAddress

    notafan
    #3531725, posted on August 1, 2020 at 10:26 pm

    In other words Mr Bush

    She said exactly what I said she said.

    And I responded by saying
    it would not be viable to have every kind of medical expert in the bush.

    If for no other reason than lots of them need access to highly specialised equipment in large hospitals in order to do their work.

    don’t bother you now because you are bust shifting the goal posts and wiping the dribble off your face.

    and what was it, she lived in Canberra for a time.

  211. Farmer Gez

    West Coast.
    Every games a home game. That’s handy.

  212. egg_

    Envy of other’s achievements and lifestyles.

    Lowbrow shows his glass jaw!

    Where’s Lizzie?

  213. Fisky

    Hearing reports about a young black man being bashed senseless by skinheads in Melbourne. Not confirmed yet but the preliminary details are shocking.

  214. rickw

    Seem to have fallen down the Japanese traditional crafts rabbit hole:

  215. egg_

    Troll 1, Troll 2 reporting for duty.

    They must have got the emails?
    /Glass jaw

  216. Mater

    A bloke I know’s brother was in glass. Made a lot of money from Vicpol through emergency repairs. When the local crims weren’t keeping up their end of the bargain, Vicpol helped fill the gap.

    Yep. Know the blokes involved. A kick back for every emergency job.
    Great scam. Cost them their jobs…eventually.

  217. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Being dragged out into Spring Street, administered a lengthy flogging and then hanged is one thing, but how are you Victoriastanians going to do this?

    The Andrews rabble are dragged down Spring Street on hurdles, before being hanged, drawn and quartered before a jeering crowd. Who will Victoriastians chose to do a better job? Is there a credible Opposition?

  218. Fisky

    Yep sounds like a direct hit on a defenseless black youth. Possible rogue VicPol officer. Disgusting!

  219. NoFixedAddress

    For all you Victorians.

    The next State elections will occur on November 26, 2022.

    The magnificent Premier Dan and The Victorian Labor Party will have a glorious victory.

    No apposition.

  220. rickw

    Hearing reports about a young black man being bashed senseless by skinheads in Melbourne. Not confirmed yet but the preliminary details are shocking.

    Fake news? Distraction squirrel? When was the last time anyone saw a skin head in Melbourne? Footscray in the 1970’s?

  221. egg_

    Envy of other’s achievements and lifestyles.

    Da ironing!

    Many of the phrases used (eg “Hairy pulling strings” and “Hairy throwing his weight around” to get preferential treatment) are direct lifts from many of your past posts here.
    So, if it makes for uncomfortable reading, it might be time for some introspection.

  222. jupes

    West Coast!
    Never in doubt.

  223. Gab

    Fake news? Distraction squirrel? When was the last time anyone saw a skin head in Melbourne? Footscray in the 1970’s?

    Exactly.

    Seems too convenient to rouse yet another BLM riot in Melbourne.

  224. johanna

    Perhaps I need to re-run my ‘On Our Selection’ series of anecdotes about life in the bush. I originally ran it as a counter to all the whingers who were complaining about WuFlu inconveniences in March.

    There is no answer to the complaints about services in remote areas, and never will be. Every single thing has been tried, and tried again, and again, and again.

    Some things just can’t be fixed.

    People in remote areas are much better off than they were, with communications and fly in health services, especially for emergencies. See The Drover’s Wife.

    If you need a dentist, get on some dentists forums and sell the dream. Same for doctors.

    Rural doctors was an issue when I was around it 30 years ago. Same, same. It’s not unique to Australia, either. Why would it be?

    BTW, most medical graduates now are women.

  225. Pedro the Loafer

    Even when the Sun has burned down a dark cinder, and we live in interstellar space, people will still talk of this high point of human endeavour.

    Dom Sheed achieves immortality.

  226. Fisky

    Black Lives Matter MUST look into this at once!

  227. Knuckle Dragger

    Goddammit Pedro.

    You used to be cool.

  228. NoFixedAddress

    @johanna

    Henry Lawson’s The Loaded Dog is the funniest.

  229. NoFixedAddress

    Pedro the Loafer
    #3531751, posted on August 1, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    LOL

  230. Pedro the Loafer

    Apologies, KD.
    Gloating is in my DNA.

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