Open Forum: August 1, 2020

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  1. Calli, hope you saw my Singer story, upthread…

  2. JC

    There really is such a word as pubbling and it means going to the pub.

    Of course there’s such a word. You think I just made it up?

    However it means something else to what you described.

    Meaning Oxford Dictionary.
    Adj: to pubble
    Meaning:

    Driller boring everyone shitless about running a pub in the outback metropolis
    Driller pretending GST is impossible to calculate for mere laymen in such a complex multi -faceted business.

  3. EvilElvis

    They have completely screwed the pooch by trying to hold the tide back, rather than concentrate on creating appropriate safe harbours for those who were really at risk.

    Nailed it, Mater.

  4. Tel

    Recent listing from TPG Telecom on the ASX.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asx/share-price-research/company/TPG

    What do you guys think? Still a bit volatile, but they do a good job at selling affordable ADSL to ordinary working class Australians … must be some value in that.

  5. Hreatest fools are the most often satisfied. – (Nicolas Boileau-Despreaux)

    I can only assume it’s self-referential, BoN.

  6. custard

    8pm – 5am curfew in Danistan. Totalitarianism good and hard.

    FMD.

  7. JC

    Tel

    I don’t really know a lot about the telco business, but here’s my two cents.

    The entire distribution side is now pretty much a commodity business selling access to the NBN.The only way to eke out a decent return is run the operation very efficiently. However, there’s is no possibility of making excess returns. I’d stay away unless you thought it was extremely undervalued.

  8. caveman

    Chairman Dan doin you slowly. He couldn’t finish the first six weeks .

  9. calli

    I did, Nelson.

    The sewing-machine-as-furniture.

    So many of them had the guts removed and tops put on the cast iron bases. The swanky ones inherited marble washstand tops and found new lives as tables for pot plants. Every so often an old treadle comes on the market and is snapped up for itself alone.

  10. notafan

    Talking to family.

    All furious.

  11. Fisky

    Melissa Clarke
    @Clarke_Melissa
    ·
    5m
    Vic Govt announcing new restrictions for metro Melb:
    – Can’t go further than 5km radius from home.
    – Only 1 person per house buying food/essentials per day.
    – No recreation, only exercise, max 1hr, within 5km home.
    – night curfew 8pm-5am, only care and work exempt.

    Great job, Dickhead Dan!

  12. I’ve seen the frame ones, but my Mum’s one is so much more sophisticated.

  13. Mark A

    Hospital services in the bush and politicians, probably half accurate.

  14. egg_

    Victoria: instructions for the destruction of the economy to come tomorrow.

    Corruption + Incompetence = Deadly

  15. Fisky

    Let’s see if we can cook up a “racist” incident for #BLM to riot over!

    Matt Barrie
    @matt_barrie
    ·
    5m
    Hammer time. Melbourne implements 8pm to 5am curfew. During day cannot go more than 5km from home. Only one person allowed out at a time. No groups more than 2 people. Recreational activity no longer allowed. 1 hr of exercise within 5 km of home. All schools closed.

  16. Makka

    Dan ruining the state to prevent herd immunity. Backed by Scummo. Both of you FOAD.

  17. Speedbox

    woolfe
    #3532379, posted on August 2, 2020 at 2:34 pm
    Speedbox, Yep, that was my intent. WoMandatory is coming to NSW. you are being softened up.

    Not me mate, I’m in Queensland – although the long dead hand of the mandatory mask brigade will have little trouble convincing Palacechook when the time comes.

    In any event, it seems curious to me that those who wear masks do not also follow through by wearing disposable gloves (and even face shields). It is self evident how the virus can be transmitted by touch.

    Maybe I should be careful what I wish for!!

  18. JC

    Went for a walk during the chunk cyber attack; solved several neighbour’s legal problems and have come back refreshed, ready to polish head prefect’s arse.

    Oh good, so you explained to them rate apportionment for land transfers is on a 365 day year.

  19. cohenite

    Only 0.6% of the US population lives in nursing homes but over 45% of the coronavirus deaths were in these centers.

    That comes out to 73,733 Deaths in US Nursing Homes!

    5 demorat governors are responsible for these deaths: NY, NJ, Penn, Cal and Michigan.

    Every thing the left touches they destroy; everything. I’m not advocating violence but you could hang each of these mongrels and the world would be a better place.

  20. caveman

    Get Scooby-Doo onto the mystery cases.

  21. calli

    Just had a look on Gumtree. There’s heaps of them in various states of disrepair.

  22. cohenite

    I like to be useful head prefect. Now hold still, there’s a blemish on your left cheek.

  23. Bruce of Newcastle

    An 8pm curfew?

    Wow. That’s really going to get up people’s noses. Especially young lefty type peoples.

    JC complains that I disappear from the Cat at dusk when the birdies go to bed. He’ll now have to do the same thing. 😀

  24. And what happen when this fails to arrest the numbers?

    (No, not that Numbers.)

  25. calli

    Gee you Victorians have been naughty.

    Grounded.

  26. egg_

    Vic Govt announcing new restrictions for metro Melb:
    – Can’t go further than 5km radius from home.
    – Only 1 person per house buying food/essentials per day.
    – No recreation, only exercise, max 1hr, within 5km home.
    – night curfew 8pm-5am, only care and work exempt.

    The end result of letting ‘Elf Nazis anywhere near the levers, SloMo.

  27. Fisky

    No surprises who will be impacted the harshest by Dickhead Dan’s curfew. All those Indians living 10 to a room driving Didis while they pretend to study and rack up “permanent resident” points will be finding it tough going. Then you have the M0zl3m refugee community all packed in dog-box apartments with their 10 kids. Will Commissar Dan’s “defund the police” supporters be okay with a bit of neck-kneeling to keep the restless hordes in their place?

    Comrades?

  28. Why didn’t they tell us the virus is more virulent after dark?

  29. JC

    JC complains that I disappear from the Cat at dusk when the birdies go to bed. He’ll now have to do the same thing. 😀

    That’s a lie Bruce. I’ve never said you tucked in at dusk. I’ve always maintained it’s earlier – like 4 pm. 🙂

  30. Boambee John

    Bruce of N

    I’m upset with Numbers, he has a mind that I would not want to meet in a dark alley.

    You share that feeling with many others here!

  31. Fisky

    phie Elsworth
    @sophieelsworth
    · 12m
    This is the beginning of the end for so many Victorian businesses. It will be impossible to recover from this. #COVID19au #lockdownMelbourne

    There won’t be any businesses at all in Yarragrad! Eat shit you Victorian dickheads who voted for the absolute wanker Dan Andrews. You got your revenge of the nerds utopia and you will like it.

  32. Struth

    Victoria has over 180 publicly-run aged care centres, which have had only a small number of infections. The disastrous COVID-19 outbreaks are overwhelmingly in the privately run aged care homes.

    Good lord.
    Love the language.

    Hey, only private old folks homes, only private pubs and restaurants, christianity, (moooossies and blackfellas immune), spread it and naughty individuals in Bunnings only the five eyes western countries and Brazil hit hard….well that’s the propaganda, not the facts, because of course they have a non globalist right wing president too,……….ten thousand marxists demonstrating ……nothing.

    Footy still played and porn on the net keeps the boof heads who could be trouble, distracted and calm.

    The covid mask wearing still pushed in the states after their burning and looting, and running around with their shirts off, sitting naked in the streets.
    They care not about beards as KD reminded us, mooossies would not shave it, and as an extra insanity inducing action, they even tell you the type of mask doesn’t matter, cover your face with an old footy sock, and don’t question the idiocy, or the fact they changed their minds.
    It’s the blind obedience they require.

    And all because old people are dying where and how they always do…..and insanely this is actually given as a reason for tyranny.
    Flood propaganda as organised by the UN WHO.
    National reports, ……actually National wide reports of the tragic, loss of a 103 y.o. to the devastating killer flu.

    Hardly any MSM journalist anywhere in the world is asking about the demographics , the death rates, the validity of the tests, why the workers and business must stop when only the long since retired who are at home anyway, may suffer from it and nobody knows anyone anywhere that’s died FROM it.
    No questions asked world wide.
    No answers reported.
    Why the numbers were falsified, who in the New York health department and elsewhere provided financial incentive to claim CoD as covid 19.
    No questions asked.
    Hospitals empty and MSM corporate media around the world breathlessly reporting the incredible strain of front line nurses who in fact were being sent home due to lack of work.
    In England the Nurses (unionists) came outside a hospital in their diseased and apparently highly deadly gowns to applaud a BLM rally, so snowed under they were.
    Straight out lies, world wide.
    All using the same language , using “cases” and exactly the same slogans that were all worked out at event 21, as was the flooding theory.

    Guturres waiting quietly for his time as the normalisation and insanity inducing months pass, now starting to come out, very slowly and talk about the global governance solution to the Pandemic being the only choice.
    China demolishing the west and about to invade Taiwan.

    It’s all about a virus.

    Nothing happening here guys.
    It really is about a cold virus.
    Thank god for Dan and Sco Mo hey?

  33. H B Bear

    Apart. But together.

    Orwell would approve.

  34. egg_

    They have completely screwed the pooch by trying to hold the tide back, rather than concentrate on creating appropriate safe harbours for those who were really at risk.

    A great analogy.
    “Pride goes before a fall” obviously isn’t in the Hunchback’s lexicon.

  35. JC

    Eat shit you Victorian dickheads who voted for the absolute wanker Dan Andrews.

    Really, we all voted for him?

  36. Ed Case

    ***I wonder what is the definition of “Low Skill Industries” and who decides.***
    Hi Tinta
    Aged Care is one, Abattoirs are another. Anything where training is ”on the job”.
    The problem is that these are 2 industries where hygiene is critical.

    Let’s say I hailed from a Country where rainfall is less than 5 inches/year: it would be practically imprinted on my DNA thru countless generations not to waste a drop of potential drinking water.
    Even tho I am a great bloke who knows Don Bradman’s Test batting average, how could I effectively work in any Industry that required hygiene?

  37. Numbers are sure to drop for those over 5km from a testing centre.

  38. Fisky

    Victoria is what happens when a bunch of resentful dickheads gang up together and exact revenge on society because Sharon ignored them in grade 9. Enjoy your ruinous bankruptcy you wankers.

    WA Secession Now!

  39. egg_

    Muz zos have been conspicuous by their absence on panels on Teh Dumb for about the last fortnight; Aunty is obviously liking them to Comrade Dan’s beer bug outbreak.
    It must be verboten, like questions of homosexuality policy to Squalid Aly.

  40. johanna

    I don’t know about ‘pubbing’, but a sad fact of these joyless times is that the old fashioned pub crawl is mostly just a memory. For young readers, a group of people (usually male) would go from pub to pub, having one drink in each. It did rely on a lot of pubs being in close proximity, which is hard to find nowadays.

    I went on a couple of mixed sex pub crawls in my dissipated youth. They were a hoot! Typically, people would start to drop off the group after about a dozen pubs, but many of us (I had a Super-Liver) went on much longer.

    I can’t begin to list the objections that would be levelled nowadays at the quaint old custom known as the pub crawl.

  41. miltonf

    Eat shit you Victorian dickheads who voted for the absolute wanker Dan Andrews.

    Really, we all voted for him?

    Sure as shit I didn’t.

  42. ASIO

    Hey guys we have this bloke in Victoria who is trying to establish a totalitarian enclave and bypassing Parliament.

    Please do something. Even a mean email.

  43. Speedbox

    A curfew? Army on the streets (assisting Police). Martial law anyone?

  44. caveman

    State of Disaster just given the cops an excuse to do both now , knock on your door and throw a brick through your window if you don’t answer.

  45. notafan

    Even my Danloving Sil is breakin’ all the rules.

  46. Megan

    And you’d be an authority on “running scared”?
    You never served, were never in uniform, and have absolutely no idea what you’re on about.

    Sadly, for this pathetic attempt to gain more details, there is a large chunk of people on here who know me IRL.
    You’re making a dick of yourself…and telling another

    Mater has more courage and real service in his little fingernail than you will ever have in your gutless and pathetically limited life. Being so proud of running away illuminates exactly who and what you are far more effectively than any amount ad hom abuse could possibly convey. No need to abuse a moron whose actions speak louder than his weak words. You’ve hoed your own road.

  47. Tel

    I don’t really know a lot about the telco business, but here’s my two cents.

    The entire distribution side is now pretty much a commodity business selling access to the NBN.The only way to eke out a decent return is run the operation very efficiently. However, there’s is no possibility of making excess returns. I’d stay away unless you thought it was extremely undervalued.

    What about the market in high quality business connections where NBN simply isn’t good enough?

    TPG owns PIPE Networks, giving them access to the direct Sydney to Guan fiber link PPC-1 … that’s not part of NBN and never will be. PIPE has also become the high-end component of the TPG portfolio selling fat links to the people who really happen to need that type of thing (not mum and dad watching movies).

    TPG also installed a bunch of fiber-to-the-building links taking the initiative while NBN found it too difficult to negotiate with strata title management bodies. I believe TPG might still be somewhat ahead in that space.

    TPG are slowly moving into mobile, although it isn’t quite their forte, but might be potential there. Of course, no one can beat Telstra quality in the Australian mobile space (if you want to pay Telstra rates) but there’s room for price competition. TPG will end up mucking around in the student and cheapskate market against Vodafone. Since NBN are not interested in mobile, this is not going to get too much government interference.

    TPG also own AAPT and Soul and TransACT giving them access to fibers laid down before NBN was even so much as a smudge on a napkin … so they have some capability to directly compete, especially in the business market.

    The other factor to consider (slightly longer term) what happens when NBN inevitably goes bankrupt?

    Clearly NBN is never going to be a self-sustaining profitable entity capable of paying back the massive investment costs of their fiber networks, so what happens then? Each future government must choose between more subsidy, or ultimate write-off. Will it get sold off, who will buy???

  48. Fisky

    10 News First Melbourne
    @10NewsFirstMelb
    ·
    33m
    #BREAKING: From 6pm tonight, Melbourne will move to Stage 4 restrictions, including an 8pm to 5am curfew.

    Victoria will enter a State of Disaster, in addition to its current State of Emergency. #COVID19Vic #springst #Stage4

    Richly deserved. No state in the federation produces more supercilious totalitarian wankers. Should have been walled off years ago.

  49. Fisky

    Dickhead Dan has just done a number on the property market. I’m calling a 20% crash* by the end of lockdown.

    *That’s assuming it’s even possible to measure the property market when all home opens and auctions are banned.

  50. Eve Black looks pretty damned normal now.

    Good job, dickhead media.

    The price of a six month holiday for public serpent bugmen is martial law.

    Victorians, please rise for your new, audio visual national anthem.

  51. Tel

    My wife pointed out that all telcos should go up, when you consider the large (and prolly permanent) shift away from physical commuting and towards working at home, video conferences, mobile offices, etc.

    It’s a long term trend that got a recent push forward, but total network data volume is NOT about to go down in the near future.

  52. Fisky

    “And these distance, gathering and time limits won’t apply for work, medical care or compassionate reasons.”

    “Compassionate” reasons means funerals are out because the Dickheadgrad government are a bunch of sociopathic ghouls, but BLM riots are in.

  53. min

    Daniel Andrews has told the Feds several times to but out as he makes the decisions .
    Feds pay for and control? other areas too but the States say what goes on ‘ The problem then is Who is to blame eg for falling school standards , hospital waiting lists , trouble is too many chiefs and federated states
    Now to the unmonitored workers on visas that do not have medicare benefits , usually from poor countries, poorly paid , no job security how does Dan lock them up to keep them from Working . They often work as cleaners , carers, farm workers underw

  54. miltonf

    Richly deserved. No state in the federation produces more supercilious totalitarian wankers. Should have been walled off years ago.

    Let’s see- Krudd from Qld and Trumble from NS. Even TLS is ex SA ex Wales. Seriously get fucked.

  55. Tintarella di Luna

    Does the Commonwealth pay subsidies to employers of Socially Disadvantaged Minorities?
    Does the Commonwealth encourage this subsidy seeking among employers whose Aged Care Homes it Regulates?</blockquote

    It's not just aged care homes in which this highly questionable practice takes place. From what I understand the practice began during the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd debacle when the Pacific Solution was dismantled resulting in an influx of some 50,000 illegal entrants to our shores. There was an agreement between the Commonwealth and aged care and disability service providers to give jobs to these 'refugees' so they could enter the job market, facilitated by labour hire agencies.

    I am sure what we see now is the result of a bureaucrat coming up with a memorandum of understanding to use frail-aged people and disabled people as a solution to a problem brought about by rampant incompetence.

    When it comes to disability I am sure there are horror stories to be told but cannot be told because so many in group homes serviced in this way by unqualified people cannot speak or read or write or use the phone/social media to communicate – very convenient that.

  56. johanna

    Interesting insight into the telco scene, Tel, thanks. I must say that TPG have been a serious player from Day 1, and your comment confirms that.

    As for those down south – imagine going to sleep in The World’s Most Liveable City and waking up in East Germany.

    Good plot for a movie. 🙂

  57. Tintarella di Luna

    ooops sorry blockquote fail

  58. Roger

    State of disaster declaration means Andrews can suspend Acts of parliament.

  59. Boambee John

    It shows that you, and most who post here, lack the capacity to challenge my posts.

    Actually, bin chicken, your posts are challenged every day.

    Unfortunately, you have been scratching through the trash can of hysterical history for so long, it is you who has lost the capacity to comprehend the substance of those challenges.

    Doxing the dead is about as low as you can go.

    How was your father doxed? Mater researched his service, using publicly available material, and commented on the obvious differences between the family “narrative” and the records, but did not give any identificating details that would have “doxed” your father.

  60. William the Conjuror

    Friendly Neighbourhood Stasi will be unfriendly from now on if “employee” “Matthew O’Malley” cannot produce ID while being driven from Reservoir/Richmond to Trentham to “learn hydraulics”.

  61. miltonf

    Most (maybe all?) PMs since Gorton has been a minus for Australia but I’d argue that Krudd and Trumble have done the most damage.

  62. Entropy

    Victoria has over 180 publicly-run aged care centres, which have had only a small number of infections. The disastrous COVID-19 outbreaks are overwhelmingly in the privately run aged care homes.

    Good lord.
    Love the language.

    Most of those would be in the country.

  63. Fisky

    State of disaster declaration means Andrews can suspend Acts of parliament.

    Oh wow really? So this is also the Dickhead’s Enabling Act. If there are any normal people left in that state, you must either leave how (illegally) or actively subvert this fascist c***. Fake bash a Sudanese refugee and film it (pay them of course) to cook up a BLM riot.

  64. Ed Case

    Heh, another Blockquote fail.
    Great post, Tinta.

  65. cohenite

    I mentioned that some guy had produced some graphs comparing all recorded diseases in Australia last year with the same months this year after the chunk virus; here they are and they are remarkable.

  66. my dead father was doxxed

    Um, if anyone goes to your website, they can find out your name and your dad is dead.

    You live in a fantasy world scumbers.

    You’re as nutty as the folk who can remember LBJ raping them at 18 months old.

  67. MatrixTransform

    the dangers of drinking for unborn babies

    they must use very small bottles that fit into their cute widdle hands

  68. Roger

    The problem then is Who is to blame eg for falling school standards , hospital waiting lists , trouble is too many chiefs and federated states

    Return income tax powers to the states. The people who spend your taxes will then be one tier of government closer to the people who pay them. That ought to make them more accountable. Curtail Commonwealth responsibilities to roughly those envisioned in the Constitution; they can levy the states for funding on a per capita basis.

    Oh…and defund the ABC/SBS/NITV media-political complex.

  69. Struth

    Eat shit you Victorian dickheads who voted for the absolute wanker Dan Andrews.

    Really, we all voted for him?

    I think the real problem here is who voted for the Libs, Federally, and of course who voted for Dan.

    I don’t think we thought it would get this bad so quick.
    It was a quick takeover pace once they had the weapons.
    25 years basically.

    The feds are meant to be making law regarding quarantine………..Liberals.
    The Liberals have been piling the third world into here as fast as they could in what amounts to an invasion and state governments have no control where they settle, except for housing incentives and the like.
    It’s the Turnbull globalists of which Sco Mo is a fully fledged team member.
    He was basically endorsed by Turnbull.

    History now.

    Now they know you’ll be home Victorian cats, especially after 8 pm, how long until you get a knock on the door?
    The pace of things will now accelerate.
    They know about this site.
    You bloody right wing extremists putting people’s lives in danger.

  70. MatrixTransform

    You’re making a dick of yourself…and telling another lie!

    Cartesian Bob multi-tasks in the only way he knows how

  71. Only yellow bellied cowards try to join pile-ons.

    Liberty quote.

  72. Fisky

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1289512762733785088

    Ian Miles Cheong
    @stillgray
    · 18h
    Left-wing activists bring a stack of Bibles to burn in front of the federal courthouse in Portland.
    Show this thread

  73. Roger

    State of disaster declaration means Andrews can suspend Acts of parliament.

    Oh wow really?

    Yes, although there is a caveat, i.e. the Act to be suspended must prohibit a government department or agency from carrying out work that the minister deems necessary. Mind you, that could be subject to a fairly wide interpretation.

  74. Entropy

    Let’s see- Krudd from Qld and Trumble from NS. Even TLS is ex SA ex Wales. Seriously get fucked.

    In each case the rekevant state got rid of the bastards from being responsible for services in their states. Sent them off to Canberra where Bob Katter Jnr could get up em.

    There might have been a flaw in this plan.

  75. egg_

    The thing with risk management is that past performance is a guide to future performance, the coronavirus modeller who spooked the Medical fraternity should be strung up* like Mussolini.

    The case where hysteria over a virus may be justified is if say an ancient bug from 10k+ y.a. were brought back from Antarctica, where we’d have zero immunity to something so foreign.

    The Globalists have been treating seasonal flu like the above scenario, with devastating Economic consequences.

    *NADT

  76. H B Bear

    Really, we all voted for him?

    No. Enough of you did though. Enjoy your sh1t sandwich.

  77. notafan

    I am under the impression that nursing home cases are only being offered palliative care.

    Can anyone confirm?

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    Friendly Neighbourhood Stasi will be unfriendly from now on if “employee” “Matthew O’Malley” cannot produce ID while being driven from Reservoir/Richmond to Trentham to “learn hydraulics”.

    T’was a very entertaining video though. 😀

  79. MatrixTransform

    I regard abuse on this site as a badge of honour

    What Cartesian Bob misses is the aerial view (duh, no z-axis) …

    basically, nobody wants to engage with childish talking-points.

    You’d need a lobotomy to maintain a discussion with theTard on the basis that theTard expects.

  80. egg_

    Tel
    #3532453, posted on August 2, 2020 at 3:11 pm

    Sounds good.

    I knew TPG’s growth rate was phenomenal but just not that big.

    TVNZ were making a killing for years leasing satellite TV bearers and reselling the capacity for News crosses and Special Events.

  81. Leigh Lowe

    H B Bear

    #3532438, posted on August 2, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    Apart. But together.

    Orwell would approve.

    Brought to you by the “They are us. We are them.” party.

  82. H B Bear

    Roger – let’s see what Chairman Dan comes up with. Don’t forget WWII gave WA thePotato Marketing Board which lasted over 50 years.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    Friendly Neighbourhood Stasi will be unfriendly from now on if “employee” “Matthew O’Malley” cannot produce ID while being driven from Reservoir/Richmond to Trentham to “learn hydraulics”.

    T’was a very entertaining video though. 

    I was a little disappointed that rickw didn’t appoint himself a “Doctor of Hydraulicky” though.

  84. egg_

    Seriously get fucked.

    We feel your pain – but what’s the solution?

    Are Krogerites wrecking the Vic LNP factions?

  85. Fisky

    I went to Danistan early last year, and will probably never go back. It was right on the heels of the Pell verdict and Dickhead Dan’s triumph, and the atmosphere was absolutely toxic. Most of the punters walking around were dressed like utter bellends in their boaties, tieless office shirts, sporting Dickhead Dan frames with the lenses (probably) cut out. Lock that place down forever.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    H B Bear

    #3532495, posted on August 2, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    Roger – let’s see what Chairman Dan comes up with. Don’t forget WWII gave WA thePotato Marketing Board which lasted over 50 years.

    Gee thanks.
    That is ITK triggered for another three months.

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    Left-wing activists bring a stack of Bibles to burn in front of the federal courthouse in Portland.

    Saw that earlier. I was wondering why they didn’t also do it to some Qurans?
    Ok, that’s not correct, I know exactly why not.

  88. Struth

    Truckies going to and from work after 8pm and all others vill have to show zeir papers, and a whole lotta shit is going to happen.
    You’d better get some shopping in this time guys.
    And grab more than dunny paper.
    Buy cans and shit that lasts.

  89. Tel

    Tiktok is an elaborate phishing operation posing as a social media app

    I told you things would work out … once someone removed all the warning labels.

  90. egg_

    TVNZ were making a killing for years leasing satellite TV bearers and reselling the capacity for News crosses and Special Events.

    They have run Aunty’s National Transmission Network (run by Telecom, pre privatisation), subbed off to the WIN Network, for years.

  91. Fisky

    About 15 years had passed in between visits to Yarragrad, and the place was unrecognisable. Namely:
    1. There were a LOT more people around.
    2. They were utter wankers.
    Sad.

  92. Makka

    No. Enough of you did though. Enjoy your sh1t sandwich.

    Bear, if you can name anyone here from Vic who voted him then have the balls to put a name up. Or, just stfu. Has your state ever been totally free of voting in Socialist rule? No.

  93. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    The issue with WH&S Legislation is that no one has ever challenged it in Court.
    No doubt deals are done in return for Guilty pleas and that beats risking a poor outcome.

    I’ve never been near OH&S legislation – but I do have quite some experience with strict liability legislation. For the purposes of the above quote, it is handled/prosecuted in a similar manner.

    The challengeable part is tied in with something that strict liability, & presented as a boxed up case.
    You either plead guilty (criminal penalties apply) or challenge it in court.

    Instinct is always to challenge it, coz you’ve done nothing wrong.
    The strict liability cannot be challenged – that is the nature of strict liability.

    They always pick something for which the cost of challenging exceeds (logarithmically) the penalty for rolling over.

    You’re faced with a $70,000 a week cost for running a small case, to maybe win a pyrrhic victory when the strict liability part meaning you’re a cooked goose anyway.
    It is only ever pulled on people who aren’t in a position to finance a fair dinkum court challenge (or to devote the time & mental energy to it)

    Very few people are prepared to take on alone the cost & liability of a challenge that may change law or precedent. Especially when nobody who will benefit gives a hoot, or even understands the situation.

    Lawyers of course, with their brainwashing to remove the practical common sense inherent in most people, see nothing wrong with what they do – in fact many see themselves as being moral.

  94. Roger

    Roger – let’s see what Chairman Dan comes up with. Don’t forget WWII gave WA thePotato Marketing Board which lasted over 50 years.

    Andrews’s éminence grise* is no doubt whispering “Never let a crisis go to waste” into his wing nut right now.

    *He must have one; he doesn’t strike me as bright enough to be this dastardly on his own.

  95. johanna

    BoN, don’t let that unimportant person get under your skin.

    Stick to critters and science, although I do hope you are washing your hands a bit more than when I mentioned it a while back. 🙂

    As for Victoriastan, it has had a hard Left streak for many decades, and now they are in charge, and loving it. I have written here before about the long history of Maoists, Stalinists and violent anarchists who make up the rent-a-crowd at demonstrations.

    NSW has its shortcomings (and they are many) but pragmatism and making money have generally kept the hard Left on the sidelines. It is a different culture. Gladys knows that.

    As I said, fancy going to sleep in The World’s Most Liveable City and waking up in East Germany, 1959.

  96. MatrixTransform

    Breaking news:

    Dan Andrews speech has been determined to be the cause of a Telstra outage.

    The Hurdy Gurdy man used all the bandwidth

  97. Makka

    And to top it all off, a full hour of indigenous heroes before the footy starts. Turning into an epic day.

  98. egg_

    I think the real problem here is who voted for the Libs

    SloMo is the problem – an end result of Trumble’s toxicity.

  99. Infidel Tiger King

    Things seem to be going well in the world’s most liveable city.

    Tell us more about your wonderful culture and food scene.

  100. Tel

    Sounds good.

    I knew TPG’s growth rate was phenomenal but just not that big.

    DISCLAIMER: Past performance is not indicative of future results.

    That said, any guy who can start a business in his back shed and end up one of the top telcos in the country must have some idea what he’s doing. Optus is really run by Singapore and they also have a decent idea what they are doing. Telstra has massive incumbency advantage and better infrastructure investment but not stunningly profitable from a shareholder’s point of view. NBN … well I just see them as a money pit, admittedly one that does provide local “last-mile” Internet links.

    Yes … I accept this is a “commodity” but having said that, gold and silver are also commodities does that mean you can’t make money in gold and silver? Peter Schiff sure has done OK in the past 12 months. Oil is a commodity and there’s more than a handful of people who have got rich in the oil business.

  101. egg_

    The Trumble virus got at the LNP.

  102. Struth

    The demographic of Victoriastan means that there will be no fight back against this, and anything that does happen will now be manageable.
    The hysterical Karens will be bad enough without the tyrant’s storm troopers even needed.

    .

    I know we are all Australian, but you can’t say you weren’t smug buggers down south there with all your hip leftism.

    I’m writing this from a much free-er Cane Toad County. Remember that?
    Joh’s state, what a joke we were.
    The place you constantly mocked.

  103. Tel

    World’s most liveable city (cough cough).

  104. rickw

    Friendly Neighbourhood Stasi will be unfriendly from now on if “employee” “Matthew O’Malley” cannot produce ID while being driven from Reservoir/Richmond to Trentham to “learn hydraulics”.

    A memo has been sent to all staff at Dr Hydraulicky. From henceforth if you insist on not producing your ID for the Vicpol Stasi, you must ride in the tub of the company ute. It’s easier to hose out.

  105. miltonf

    Are Krogerites wrecking the Vic LNP factions?

    Dunno- I gave up on the Liberal Party after the Trumble debacle. Tim Smith member for Kew is cutting through though.

    Napthine was ok- didn’t do much but didn’t close down power stations unlike the current ‘conservative’ government in NSW. Plenty of good people in Vicco. Would probably concede that the Melb left is slightly more toxic than the Sydney left.

    Don’t pick on Victoria- the over population in Sydney and Melbourne is exclusively due to that vile parasitic abomination on the Molongolo.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3532515, posted on August 2, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    Things seem to be going well in the world’s most liveable city.

    Tell us more about your wonderful culture and food scene.

    I am having doubts about the level of your sincerity.

  107. EvilElvis

    Covid used motorcycles pricing coming up in Vic. Bring it!

  108. Makka

    Joh’s state,

    Those were the days.

  109. egg_

    I accept this is a “commodity”

    They say that Companies have lifespans likened organisms – isn’t “commodities” just “picking winners” at that moment in time?

  110. 132andBush

    Canoebaya (noun) – A metaphorical or imagined state in which all parties are in the same boat, but that’s OK because equality and that’s fantastic, man. See also “we are us.”

    See also “Victoria, Australian State”

  111. Perth Trader

    Are booze and tobacco shops going to close in Vic. ?….This is not going to end well.

  112. calli

    Melbourne was once dubbed “The Paris of the South”.

    When do the car-b-cues start?

  113. Bruce of Newcastle

    Things seem to be going well in the world’s most liveable city.
    Tell us more about your wonderful culture and food scene.

    Ok.

    NYC won’t recover (1 Aug)

    Bill de Blasio has done to New York City what he did to the groundhog on Groundhog Day.

    Killed it.

    Oh he had help this time. Covid 19 sent the city reeling. Work from home showed corporations they don’t need an expensive presence in New York City. Bars and restaurants folded like Republicans in a government shutdown. The elitists fled the city as the quality of life — no Broadway, no restaurants, no gala parties — dropped like a dead fly.

    But de Blasio, and his fellow Democrat, Governor Dumber Than Fredo Cuomo, went out of their way to turn New York City into the epicenter of Wuhan Flu.

    But the real comorbidity is crime. It shot up. Democrats released people arrested for crimes from jail to commit more crimes. De Blasio alienated the police. De Blasio embraced the looters and rioters protesting the police. New York City topped Chicago in gun murders last weekend. Amazing.

    People notice. The escape from New York City is on.

    The New York Post reported, “Manhattan just lost its stranglehold on white-collar workers.”

    The story said, “People aren’t coming. Midtown is a little busier than in mid-March. It’s still empty.

    Coming to a livable Lefty-run city near everyone.

  114. jo

    JC
    #3532313, posted on August 2, 2020 at 1:43 pm

    If HMS Population Ponzi is wrecked on COVID-19, it will have all been thoroughly worth it.

    What’s the right population size for Australia Fisk. A number.

    What ever it is minus NUMBERS!

  115. William the Conjuror

    I was a little disappointed that rickw didn’t appoint himself a “Doctor of Hydraulicky” though.

    Not a “Doctor of Driving” either. Had to lean forward and look with furrowed brow at the gear lever to put it in Drive. Did look a bit doctorish in the spectacles and mask, except it was white not blue and looked a bit wet under the chin. Sweating in fear?

  116. egg_

    Don’t pick on Victoria

    You’re our petri dish, from all aspects.

  117. Frank

    Presumably Andrews will have already increased his security detail.

  118. Bundyrum

    Hey shiny arse, did you help dickhead dan pen that writing about ‘Staying apart keeps us together ‘
    Sure looks the type of shit to come out of your stupid head & go pick bananas you bonehead.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Curtail Commonwealth responsibilities to roughly those envisioned in the Constitution; they can levy the states for funding on a per capita basis.

    Commonwealth responsibilities should be limited to defense, foreign policy, trade and immigration: all else should be up to the States.

  120. Roger

    Worth noting that the people who voted Melbourne “world’s most liveable city” didn’t actually live there.

  121. Perth Trader

    Is it time to start a ‘Save a Victorian Fund’..?….much like one of those ‘save the children fund’…

  122. miltonf

    Commonwealth responsibilities should be limited to defense, foreign policy, trade and immigration:

    If you trusted Canbra which you can’t.

  123. Tel

    A memo has been sent to all staff at Dr Hydraulicky. From henceforth if you insist on not producing your ID for the Vicpol Stasi, you must ride in the tub of the company ute. It’s easier to hose out.

    I watched the Mat-O-Mal video … give me your ID to prove that you are “lawful” did sound very dodgy.

    Were they Vicpol checking people leaving Victoria? That’s kind of weird, maybe I missed some background.

  124. Struth

    This is all TDS/Brexit induced all out attack on the west.
    It is an undeclared state of war, that has been raging for years.

    Tell me this.
    Why does a nobody Antifa activist in the states heckle a black doctor for claiming HCL works, screaming at her for not caring about Black Lives Matter?

  125. Fisky

    As for Victoriastan, it has had a hard Left streak for many decades, and now they are in charge, and loving it. I have written here before about the long history of Maoists, Stalinists and violent anarchists who make up the rent-a-crowd at demonstrations.

    The Labor Left in Victoria (I knew a lot of them, some of whom are now in positions of power) are some of the nastiest, most spiteful, anti-normal misanthropes you will ever meet. They are not at all interested in improving anyone’s life, rather than exacting epic revenge on normals for not being twisted deviants. It’s a mentality that goes all the way to the top.

  126. rickw

    Victoria will enter a State of Disaster, in addition to its current State of Emergency.

    C’mon fuckwits, keep it coming, tighten that grip, smash the little people, kick down doors, destroy everything !!!

    We’re going to get a civil war and a first and second amendment out of this shit!

  127. cohenite

    Coming to a livable Lefty-run city near everyone.

    The left have destroyed NY and many other areas of the US; but when they move they will take their mentality with them and it is that mentality which allowed a creature like de blasio to occur.

    It’s like the RoP coming to the West; they come to destroy not fit in; so to the exodus of the left. I don’t know what the fucking answer is; polishing head prefect’s arse isn’t working.

  128. egg_

    ‘Staying apart keeps us together ‘

    Further proof Dickhead Dan is a boob in search of a bra.

  129. Roger

    Commonwealth responsibilities should be limited to defense, foreign policy, trade and immigration: all else should be up to the States.

    I’d actually take immigration off them – they’ve proven they can’t be trusted with it.

    Let the states determine their own needs and choose accordingly.

    The colonies used to each have their own programs. In the mid-1pth C. Qld actively sought Germans and Danes to settle farming country west of ther Great Divide at a time when there was a lot of competition from the US and Canada for skilled British migrants.

  130. kaysee

    Just catching up with the Cat, after a few days away.
    Working my way through the previous thread ……..
     
    “If masks don’t work, then why do surgeons wear them?”

    A response to people who use the classic fallacious argument, “Well, if masks don’t work, then why do surgeons wear them?”
     
    I’m a surgeon that has performed over 10,000 surgical procedures wearing a surgical mask. However, that fact alone doesn’t really qualify me as an expert on the matter. More importantly, I am a former editor of a medical journal. I know how to read the medical literature, distinguish good science from bad, and fact from fiction. Believe me, the medical literature is filled with bad fiction masquerading as medical science. It is very easy to be deceived by bad science.

  131. miltonf

    Remember most of the conservatives Catholics left the ALP in Vic and Qld after the split in 1955(?).

  132. egg_

    DISCLAIMER: Past performance is not indicative of future results.

    Proven performance is a part of functional safety.

  133. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Melbourne was once dubbed “The Paris of the South”.

    that’s Paris… Texas in case of confusion

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Dunno- I gave up on the Liberal Party after the Trumble debacle. Tim Smith member for Kew is cutting through though.

    And I despaired for the State Libs even before Baillieau was elected. Attended a function where he was guest speaker. Thirty minutes of droning blancmange punctuated by 20 seconds of tub-thumping about unions (which I think was just throwing a bone to the audience … he didn’t really believe it deep down).
    I said to Mrs L at the time “If he is the best the Libs have got they are so screwed.”
    But he got elected on the back of ALP fatigue. Spent 18 months fucking around with his pet Yartz projects and dtppped the ball on things like East-West Tunnel.
    Worse than useless.
    .

    Napthine was ok- didn’t do much but didn’t close down power stations unlike the current ‘conservative’ government in NSW. 

    I think Napthine is given an unfair rap. He was given the wheel of the Titanic too late. No firebrand to be sure, but infinitely better than Baillieau.

  135. Farmer Gez

    Chairman Dan is a mug punter and just keeps doubling down on a bad number. He’s got no sense of when to quit a losing position.

    Put me on the list as well. A ruptured disc in January that needs an op but today I walked with the family to the pinnacle at the Grampians. That’s dumb.

  136. Cardimona

    Why nursing homes?
    Incontinence.
    Faecal transmission route plus workers imported from low-hygiene cultures.

    Why Victoria?
    Cold viruses prefer cold.
    (See also, meatworks.)

  137. Fisky

    Chairman Dan is a mug punter and just keeps doubling down on a bad number. He’s got no sense of when to quit a losing position.

    There are no consequences for this empathy-free lunatic for doing the wrong thing. The media love him as do all the brokens, wine aunts, cat ladies, man-buns and foreign ringers that make up the majority of Victorian voters. He just gave himself a 40 grand pay rise for fucksake!

  138. miltonf

    Napthine actually seemed like a nice guy too. Probably too nice for his own good. I hate to say this but Labor’s accelerated level crossing removal gimmick was quite good.

  139. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Victoria will enter a State of Disaster, in addition to its current State of Emergency. #COVID19Vic #springst #Stage4

    a mere stepping stone to the ashes of phoenix birthing the true communism

  140. Leigh Lowe

    Frank

    #3532533, posted on August 2, 2020 at 3:57 pm

    Presumably Andrews will have already increased his security detail.

    Well, he tried to, but the additional security staff skyved off for a smoke and a root in Hotel Quarantine.

  141. Tel

    Victoria will enter a State of Disaster …

    I guess their next number plate design has been figured out.

  142. Struth

    Commonwealth responsibilities should be limited to defense, foreign policy, trade and immigration: all else should be up to the States.

    Section 51 of the Constitution of Australia enumerates the legislative powers granted to Federal Parliament. When the six Australian colonies joined together in Federation in 1901, they became the original States and ceded some of their powers to the new Commonwealth Parliament. There are 39 subsections to section 51, each of which describes a “head of power” under which the Parliament has the power to make laws.

    The Commonwealth legislative power is limited to that granted in the Constitution. Powers not included in section 51 are considered “residual powers”, and remain the domain of the states, unless there is another grant of constitutional power (e.g. Section 52 and Section 90 prescribe additional powers). Matters covered in section 51 may be legislated on by the states, but the legislation will be ineffective if inconsistent with or in a field ‘covered by’ Commonwealth legislation (by virtue of s109 inconsistency provision).

    51 Starts with this statement, and it’s the only time it is made in the constitution.
    Strange………

    The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to
    ix Quarantine

  143. egg_

    “learn hydraulics”

    Fluid dynamics?
    Brownian motion?

  144. Infidel Tiger King

    The lockdown should stop people getting tested.

    Success!

  145. stackja

    Victorian voters keep electing ALP expecting a different result.

  146. Leigh Lowe

    Why Victoria?
    Cold viruses prefer cold.
    (See also, meatworks.)

    I heard that Brit TV doctor (Moseley?)* on radio the other day, saying the virus thrives at 11 degrees.
    Is there any research around to support that?
    .
    * A bit snake-oily so maybe grain of salt.

  147. Mater

    The media love him as do all the brokens, wine aunts, cat ladies, man-buns and foreign ringers that make up the majority of Victorian voters.

    And now they are all going to get a dose, good and hard. Just what the Doctor ordered (pardon the pun) to fix their attitudes.

    This will be interesting.

  148. Bruce of Newcastle

    “If masks don’t work, then why do surgeons wear them?”

    1. Because surgeons are trying not to infect the resected bleeding patient in front of them.
    2. Also they change their masks very frequently.

    All that masks do for uninfected Victorians is to provide a handy truck stop for an aspiring virus to have a rest on before final insertion.

    But requiring only infected people wear a mask would be like making them wear a yellow star or a pink triangle.

    Bit of a Catch 22.

  149. miltonf

    Victorian voters keep electing ALP expecting a different result.

    Victorians elected the Libs in 2010. Andrews won in 2014 and 2018.

    Labor were in forever in Qld with Goss and Beatie…short break…now Pleasurechook.

    NSW- Labor from 1995 to 2010 then O’Barrell, Baird, Gladishocklian who where just like Labor anyway.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    Cardimona

    #3532556, posted on August 2, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    Why nursing homes?
    Incontinence.
    Faecal transmission route plus workers imported from low-hygiene cultures.

    This faecal transmission thing needs to be explained.
    I think many people think of a large, steaming turd when, in fact, we are talking about microscopic particles.
    Hence thorough hand-washing is essential
    … every, single time.

  151. Fisky

    Victorian voters keep electing ALP expecting a different result.

    Are you sure about that? He made it pretty clear what he was going to do before 2014 – cancel billion dollar projects but still compensate the builders, go easy on crime gangs, replace school chaplains with fisting and dildo studies (aka “Safe Schools”), etc. It was all pretty upfront and Victorians loved it!

  152. Bundyrum

    If we are ever allowed another free & fair election (hoho)in Australia I reckon the population will vote for a return of the same shit that have fucked us for the last 40 to 50 years (including from this site).
    I better keep quiet, Ll will be talking to the AFP (after licking a pollies arse).

  153. kaysee

    Boambee John
    #3528305, posted on July 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    Happy to help with polishing the language of proposed missives, and suggesting approaches to use, as I did a while ago (to Delta A??).

    BJ, this is what I am referring to, when I speak of offering suggestions. If someone in the group is making an effort towards some “project”, another member can join in with suggestions, so that the project is successful.
     
    So, if you want to join us, come on in. Anytime you have suggestions, mark the comment at the top with the club name. This will help those Cats who are mostly in catch-up mode, a day or several days late 🙂, to be able to quickly find what other club members have posted.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    miltonf

    #3532558, posted on August 2, 2020 at 4:13 pm

    Napthine actually seemed like a nice guy too. Probably too nice for his own good.

    He is exactly what we should want as a Premier.
    Sees himself as one step up from a Shire President and with no delusions of being a statesman on the world stage.

  155. Joh’s state,

    Those were the days.

    Sure were.
    I remember them well.
    The extent of public corruption made contemporary Victoria look like a teddy bears’ picnic.

  156. kaysee

    But requiring only infected people wear a mask would be like making them wear a yellow star or a pink triangle.

    And the surgeon says in the article:

    If a surgeon were sick, especially with a viral infection, they would not perform surgery as they know the virus would NOT be stopped by their surgical mask.

  157. Nick

    Faecal transmission route plus workers imported from low-hygiene cultures.

    I heard a friend say that any cleaner should have their home cleanliness assessed before they get a job cleaning elsewhere. There’s a certain logic there.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    … (after licking a pollies arse).

    Hello, bundy (the very similar one).
    You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with bottoms.
    Have you spoken to a professional about it?
    I mean, coming out as gay is no big thing these days.
    In fact, you’ll probably feel better about yourself.

  159. Struth

    Dan’s Sweet Caroline Ban.

    Your new socialist dictator Dan bans

    Hands touching hands
    Reaching out
    Touching me, touching you.
    Sweet Caroline………….
    Good times never seemed so good
    I feel inclined
    To believe they’ll run outa food, soon, oh, whoa,………..

  160. miltonf

    It’s interesting that the Libs actually won in 2010 as it wasn’t expected. Shame that red ted blew it.

  161. Eyrie

    Are they going to put “State of Disaster” on Vicco numberplates. Someone should come up with a numberplate surround and sell them.
    The lockdown gives even more scope for a social media campaign to have the jacks running around.
    Asymmetrical warfare aka Generation 4 warfare.
    People really ought to read ‘Wasp” by Eric Frank Russell and some of his other stuff about non violent resistance.
    I think we’re going to euthanase the Australian economy and *then* the virus will get out uncontrolled anyway. We are sooo… “fucked” to use Struth’s technical term.

  162. Some History

    Interesting video from late-2019.

    Chairman Daniel Andrews, the Belt and Road Betrayer

    https://www.xyz.net.au/chairman-daniel-andrews-the-belt-and-road-betrayer/

  163. Makka

    I remember them well.

    I bet you do numbers. He treated vermin like you as you so richly deserved.

  164. min

    Why only Victoria is the question Because we are the only ones lucky enough to have Danny Boy .

  165. Struth

    The extent of public corruption made contemporary Victoria look like a teddy bears’ picnic.

    So you’re telling us there is corruption in Victoria?
    Really?

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    Kaysee – My understanding is that surgical masks are mainly about preventing bacterial infection.

  167. Struth

    I think we’re going to euthanase the Australian economy and *then* the virus will get out uncontrolled anyway. We are sooo… “fucked” to use Struth’s technical term.

    Glad to be of help.
    If you’re ever stuck for a word, and this goes out to you all, I’m glad to help.

  168. miltonf

    I think we’re going to euthanase the Australian economy and *then* the virus will get out uncontrolled anyway.

    Seems like the Paris agreement wasn’t working fast enough for them. Trump and Brexit have made more urgent action necessary.

  169. Bundyrum

    Three hetero brats, so sorry on that LL.
    You still sucking afp willies?
    I changed it just for you…..any chance you can discuss any new websites coming up, you haven’t posted on that subject for a few hours, very interesting stuff.

  170. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Joh’s state,
    Those were the days.

    Sure were.
    I remember them well.
    The extent of public corruption made contemporary Victoria look like a teddy bears’ picnic.

    There’s some differences.
    Many of those differences are cosmetic, however:
    Please provide a quick opinion on;

    Why people were moving to Joh Qld in significant numbers,
    while people are leaving contemporary Victoria – even being having to hide under tonneau covers in the back of utes, risking arrest, to get out of contemporary Victoria.

    A significant difference – one worthy of being addressed.

    Consider this a “challenge to your discussion point”

  171. 132andBush

    The FMIC is gorging itself on this announcement.

  172. Fisky

    https://twitter.com/AvidCommentator/status/1289812248945295362

    Avid Commentator Flag of Australia
    @AvidCommentator
    ·
    33s
    Australia Per Capita GDP

    1990’s – Grew by 24.6% (despite the recession)

    2000’s – Grew by 16.5% (despite getting hit during the GFC)

    2010’s – Grew by 10.4%

    The economy was already very sick before Covid, per capita GDP was effectively flat-lining for almost 2 years

    The 90s had very low immigration, leading to faster economic growth.

  173. kaysee

    Delta A
    #3528320, posted on July 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    Not me, BJ. I used Struth’s letter as a guide and altered it to fit my style.

    Delta,
    BJ is referring to my comment here.
    It includes a link to BJ’s original comment.

  174. John A

    egg_ #3532498, posted on August 2, 2020, at 3:41 pm


    Are Krogerites wrecking the Vic LNP factions?

    Short answer: YES! They have this stupid idea that being too different from the ALP doesn’t win them votes.

    The problem for them is that in the last election (November 2018) it lost them a lot of votes in seats where it counted.

  175. Boambee John

    The extent of public corruption made contemporary Victoria look like a teddy bears’ picnic.

    Oh, lookee, the bin chicken uses hyperbowl!

    Or is he just ignorant?

  176. Leigh Lowe

    Hey bundy, are you still offering to help Cardimona and Struth with their campaign efforts?

  177. 132andBush

    Hey bundy, are you still offering to help Cardimona and Struth with their campaign efforts?

    Indeed.

  178. Mitch M.

    Catching up on human evolution reading I came across this little gem which indicates the Plague is very old. The article argues there was a large population decline which helped the incoming whiteys, the Yamnaya(Black sea, Caspian sea region) displace the existing black European hunter gatherers; which eventually were absorbed\displaced by that migration and a former one at 8,000 years ago.

    Cell
    Volume 176, Issues 1–2, 10 January 2019, Pages 295-305.e10
    Journal home page for Cell
    Article
    Emergence and Spread of Basal Lineages of Yersinia pestis during the Neolithic Decline
    Summary
    Between 5,000 and 6,000 years ago, many Neolithic societies declined throughout western Eurasia due to a combination of factors that are still largely debated. Here, we report the discovery and genome reconstruction of Yersinia pestis, the etiological agent of plague, in Neolithic farmers in Sweden, pre-dating and basal to all modern and ancient known strains of this pathogen. We investigated the history of this strain by combining phylogenetic and molecular clock analyses of the bacterial genome, detailed archaeological information, and genomic analyses from infected individuals and hundreds of ancient human samples across Eurasia. These analyses revealed that multiple and independent lineages of Y. pestis branched and expanded across Eurasia during the Neolithic decline, spreading most likely through early trade networks rather than massive human migrations. Our results are consistent with the existence of a prehistoric plague pandemic that likely contributed to the decay of Neolithic populations in Europe.

  179. John A

    Link to my seat of Narre Warren South.

    I’m in one of the Blue areas which did NOT vote for this so-called government. Direct your vitriol elsewhere, please.

  180. Leigh Lowe

    ..any chance you can discuss any new websites coming up, you haven’t posted on that subject for a few hours, very interesting stuff.

    It is indeed interesting stuff, and I will get to it in due course.
    No point right now because Faulty, the owner of The Big Websites, has been absent today …
    or has he?
    I wonder …

  181. Speedbox

    Over the past few days and months, most of us have joked about ‘Dictator Dan’. We have commented on his zealous introduction of assorted restrictions and, those of us outside Victoria, have been caught in a curious mix of sympathy for the non-Labor/Green voters, a morbid relish at the final unmasking of the soviet style control of the Victorian populace and concern that the cancer will spread north or west.

    Some said that Victorians are getting what they deserve but a couple of million did not, and never will, vote for Dan and his mob. But you are all reaping the whirlwind.

    Today, we see Dictator Dan has imposed a curfew and onerous other restrictions. Of course, Dan and his cohort mouth the usual platitudes that they ‘know’ it will be hard but that ‘we are all in this together’.

    Who would have thought, even a few days ago, that Victoria would replicate East Germany? Other than not having an actual wall, these restrictions are not dissimilar to those endured in East Berlin. Whilst the media is nominally still free, it is unquestionably in lock-step with the Government. Dissent is confined to small pockets of the internet.

    Limitations on travel (5km) and even food is being rationed – no more than 2kg of potatoes, carrots or onions. No more than 1kg of red meat or chicken. A slew of other food restrictions are in place.

    The Victorian economy, or what remains of it, will be flattened. Dictator Dan said that if a business is unable to transition to a ‘work from home’ scenario, then “the work just won’t get done”.

    Although this is the country of my birth, I don’t recognise it.

  182. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Joh’s Queensland (bad, remember): Pubs open 10am – 10pm (12hrs) + 4hrs on Sunday.
    Dirty magazines not allowed, Australian Playboy & Australian Penthouse had to print a special non-naughty Qld edition.

    Contemporary Victoria: Pubs closed permanently. Dirty magazines – including diagrams of fisting, fellatio (male to male, natch) are primary school textbooks.

    Any other ways Premier Andrews has “improved” on that religious doofus killjoy nutbag Bjelke-Petersen?

  183. Frank

    Tik Tok is gone and this is one person that will be devastated.

  184. kaysee

    Bruce, the article has been written by a surgeon, Jim Meehan, MD.

  185. Nick

    or has he?
    I wonder …

    Agree.

  186. miltonf

    So Kroger is the Photios of Victoria?

  187. Leigh Lowe

    Sinc.
    Your socks are transparently threadbare today.
    Time for some new ones.

  188. 132andBush

    or has he?
    I wonder …

    Indeed x2

  189. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Anyone know how ethnic gangs fared in Joh’s Qld?
    Y’know… those gangs who roamed around belting up female joggers, slashing the faces of cyclists, burgling homes & belting six-shades out of the homeowners, crashing into P&C fetes groping all the housewives..

    Anyone know how long that eye-off-the-ball religious freak Bjelke-Petersen allowed that sort of stuff to go on?
    Years? Decades?
    He was, like, y’know, way inferious to Andrews in contemporary Victoria, so surely he was far worse at protecting the normals?

  190. Roger

    Joh’s Queensland (bad, remember): Pubs open 10am – 10pm (12hrs) + 4hrs on Sunday.

    And they turned a profit without those wretched poker machines.

  191. dover_beach

    No one tell twostix about rhe latest news from Victoria, please. Please!

  192. Fisky

    Jeff Kennett
    @jeff_kennett
    ·
    3h
    Understand and agree. I was for a managed approach, govt have a different view
    That’s fine, but they have got to be strong and do this proposed lockdown properly otherwise it will never work.

    There is no “proper lockdown”. It was tried once and failed. You go with policies that fit the prevailing social norms and if Australians can’t do lockdown “successfully” like ant cultures, then don’t do lockdown. Come up with something else.

    We need to actively subvert this lockdown using whatever means available.

  193. miltonf

    The Victorian economy, or what remains of it, will be flattened. Dictator Dan said that if a business is unable to transition to a ‘work from home’ scenario, then “the work just won’t get done”.

    Yeah the putsch has happened very fast.

  194. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    And they turned a profit without those wretched poker machines.

    Quite so. Joh was firmly against poker machines & never allowed that curse.
    How’s this compare to “contemporary Victoria”?

    (Pub prices were fixed in Qld, including the price of a room. There was a ceiling on everything, charging more was illegal.)

  195. Bundyrum

    LL, methinks you think I am a sock for Mv? I can assure you I don’t even know the guy.
    But in your fucked turnip think what you will.
    Make sure you keep up your surveillance on the site though, the AFP need your input.

  196. Makka

    Joh’s Queensland (bad, remember): Pubs open 10am – 10pm (12hrs) + 4hrs on Sunday.

    Epic sesh!

  197. Fisky

    This person is a median voter in Victoria –

    CorianderBurch
    @arrasum
    · 1h
    Replying to @normboy562
    Victoria is now to the rest of Australia what NZ is to OZ- a beacon to guide us forward. Dan and Jacinda show us what true, selfless leadership is all about. #IStandWithDan

  198. John A

    Speedbox #3532616, posted on August 2, 2020, at 4:43 pm

    Limitations on travel (5km) and even food is being rationed – no more than 2kg of potatoes, carrots or onions. No more than 1kg of red meat or chicken. A slew of other food restrictions are in place.

    Where did you read that?

    I have saved a copy of this page which says nothing so drastic.

  199. rickw

    Although this is the country of my birth, I don’t recognise it.

    Completely unrecognisable. There isn’t one aspect of it that hasn’t been completely stuffed by the communists.

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Make sure you keep up your surveillance on the site though, the AFP need your input.

    Not sure what you are referring to there.
    Please essplain?

  201. Old School Conservative

    Doxing the dead is about as low as you can go.

    Um, when a bloke discloses his own surname, even I can work out the surname of his father. When that bloke also discloses dad’s service details, date of volunteering, and parts of the dad’s service number I’d say that bloke did all the doxing.
    So yes, giving up all the information about your father is about as low as you can go.

  202. miltonf

    be strong and do this proposed lockdown properly otherwise it will never work.
    Oh Lord

  203. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Epic sesh!

    Two sessions.
    The four hour opening was 2 x Two hour sessions, the hours of which had to be the same for every pub in town. (usually 12-2 & 4-6 or 1-3 & 5-7)

  204. rickw

    Getting in early here, does anyone know any good cat recipes?

    Also, what’s the easiest way to skin one of the buggers? Does the old nick in the leg and air compressor work?

  205. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Limitations on travel (5km) and even food is being rationed – no more than 2kg of potatoes, carrots or onions. No more than 1kg of red meat or chicken. A slew of other food restrictions are in place.
    Where did you read that?

    I have saved a copy of this page which says nothing so drastic.

    Speedbox accidentally published next week’s lockdown changes – ignore those ration limits until they kick in this time next week.
    (nothing to worry about – it’s for your own good)

  206. Makka

    be strong and do this proposed lockdown properly otherwise it will never work.

    Hopeless. Just hopeless.

  207. Bundyrum

    So a number of posters think I am a sock for MV, I aint but once the cats make a decision, well thats it I suppose.
    Nick, you surprise me, I thought better of you.
    But LL go fuck yourself you fucking tosspot.

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anyone know how ethnic gangs fared in Joh’s Qld?

    The same way that the “skinhead” gangs fared in Perth, in the mid 1970’s? A few good hidings in dark lane ways, and skinhead regalia vanished almost overnight.

  209. rickw

    be strong and do this proposed lockdown properly otherwise it will never work.

    And the next time government has a ruby princess, cedar meats, hotel lockdown cock up, then what??!!

    It will never “work” by definition, the plan is simply idiotic.

  210. Leigh Lowe

    OSC at 4:54.
    That was my point the other day about the “doxxing” of the Bunnings Viking firepit lovely lady.
    She took a video, posted it on her personal soshul meeja account which identified her.
    No-one else but her published any personal identifying information.
    So, whatever it is, it is not “doxxing”.

  211. Fisky

    Adam Creighton
    @Adam_Creighton
    Shameful what’s occurring in Victoria.
    Effective dictatorship declared.
    Devastating, destructive power of the state on full display.
    Respect for the individual clearly irrelevant.
    What’s the point in being alive if you can’t live?

  212. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    The same way that the “skinhead” gangs fared in Perth, in the mid 1970’s? A few good hidings in dark lane ways, and skinhead regalia vanished almost overnight.

    How’s this compare to “contemporary Victoria”?

  213. Speedbox

    John A
    #3532638, posted on August 2, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    Limitations on travel (5km) and even food is being rationed – no more than 2kg of potatoes, carrots or onions. No more than 1kg of red meat or chicken. A slew of other food restrictions are in place.

    Where did you read that?

    Publicised on Woolworths site. Also, the travel restriction is widely published. Dan has been on TV talking about it. Will be enforced by Police (blah blah blah). Includes exercise. Every activity must be within 5km except where you have a lawful excuse. “Expect to be stopped”. No shopping outside your 5km zone.

  214. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When that bloke also discloses dad’s service details, date of volunteering, and parts of the dad’s service number I’d say that bloke did all the doxing.

    It’s not as though the nominal roll of those who served in World War Two isn’t a public document.

  215. caveman

    Dirty magazines not allowed, Australian Playboy & Australian Penthouse had to print a special non-naughty Qld edition.

    We’re they the ones with a big round Orange sticker on the private parts. That took superhuman skill to peel off without ripping the page.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    The Magnificat Mincing Malicious Mongrels ride again!!!!

  217. MatrixTransform

    Where did you read that?

    at the supermarket which, by the way, is 7.7 km as the crow flies

  218. Bundyrum

    LL, you not sure what I was referring to regarding AFP? look at many of your previous posts talking about what the AFP would think about various postings.
    Its there in your history, you were trying to scare posters, you are a piece of shit, now just fuck off you annoying dobbing grub.

  219. egg_

    I think we’re going to euthanase the Australian economy and *then* the virus will get out uncontrolled anyway.

    Blind Freddy could see that back in March.

  220. miltonf

    Here’s some shit from the H-S
    Among the covidiots were:
    • A man who travelled from Thornbury to Werribee to get a haircut from his favourite barber;
    • A man who travelled from Bentleigh East to Sunbury for his favourite takeaway; and
    • A man who travelled from Melbourne to Ballarat twice to get some fresh air.

    What poisonous little scolds these germalists are (thanks Cassie).

  221. Leigh Lowe

    LL, you not sure what I was referring to regarding AFP? look at many of your previous posts talking about what the AFP would think about various postings.

    I don’t quite recall.
    Can you link them?
    I am thinking that maybe you are imagining things.
    Or possibly my memory fails me.
    What was it about?

  222. Fisky

    How Chinese Officials Hijacked My Company

    My story began in 2016, when I entered a joint venture with the government of Rugao, a city in Jiangsu province with a population of 1.4 million. Rugao needed expertise to start an automotive manufacturing company that would create jobs.

    I would bring experience, design, engineering and related technologies developed over my 40-year career in the automotive industry building race cars and high-performance street cars. My contributions to the deal were valued at $800 million, and I would maintain a majority stake in the new company along with my American partners. Rugao would bring $500 million in capital and $600 million in subsidized loans over three years to fund manufacturing sites and operations, and receive a minority stake.

    The deal was a sham. It was a trap designed to secure my intellectual property, then use intimidation tactics and lies to nullify the agreement and seize control.

    The first few years of the venture, named Jiangsu Saleen Automotive Technologies, were relatively smooth. I contributed three well-designed, well-engineered vehicles, hired staff, set up supply chains and launched marketing. The Rugao government contributed some of the promised capital, but nowhere near the amount needed to get operations up and running at scale.

    I would later find out that while I was busy fulfilling my end of the bargain, the joint venture applied for 510 Chinese patents for my designs, technologies, trade secrets and engineering developments. Most of the patent filings didn’t even list me as the inventor. With many of these Chinese patents approved, Rugao was ready to take over the joint venture and steal the intellectual property.

    Rugao is now claiming the initial valuation of my contributions was based on false information. But the city government itself requested, verified and accepted the valuation, picking at the outset three separate firms to conduct independent appraisals. The government never contested any of what these reviews found. In the past three months, Rugao has demanded the valuation companies say their findings were based on false information.

    You could ask Grace Yin Xu about this—if you could find her. Grace is a Chinese national who serves as the director of corporate affairs for Jiangsu Saleen. In the early stages of the deal Grace was a liaison between the joint venture and the valuation firms. Chinese law enforcement recently instructed Grace to say that my business partner provided false information and embezzled money. She refused to lie. She entered a government building in Rugao on the morning of June 22 and hasn’t been heard from since.

    Rugao law enforcement also detained Frank Sterzer, our vice president of manufacturing, for intimidation on June 29. Frank, a German citizen, was released after six hours with no explanation for the detention after he managed to contact the German Embassy using a cellphone the police forgot to confiscate.

    Though my colleagues refused to lie, the government has convinced one of the three evaluation firms to do so. The Shanghai Wanlong Asset Appraisal Co. issued a public statement denying it performed a valuation report at all, and the government used that statement to declare the reports were fabricated. The government has also levied bogus embezzlement charges against my partners and me over money used to fund vehicle development—payments the government knew about and approved before they were made.

    There is absolutely no justification for continuing normal economic relations with China, above the bare minimum of selling them basic commodities (which can’t be stolen).

  223. egg_

    The Magnificat Mincing Malicious Mongrels ride again

    /Got the email.

  224. Some History

    The State of Disaster declaration is based on epidemiological modelling, the same modelling that can’t predict day to day fluctuations or directions. There needs to be hard questioning of “epidemiological modelling”. There is so much arbitrariness in the decision-making.

    What a mess!

  225. Nick

    I saw this and lmao

    Chief Heather Fong (left), the first SFPD female, lesbian chief of police.

    Theresa Sparks (center, former male), president of the San Francisco Police Commission, CEO of a multimillion-dollar sex toy retailer, and a transgender woman.

    Sgt. Stephan Thorne (right, former female), the first transgender SFPD police officer.

    Their Representative in Congress is Nancy Pelosi.

    Try to act surprised.

  226. miltonf

    A guess if you are a monash marxist, anything to progress the revolution. The make an omelet you have to break a few eggs.

  227. Speedbox

    Speaking of Woolworths, it is clear that they got a final ‘heads up’ last night when Dan and the gang were finalising the restrictions. Woolworths website published their restrictions within minutes of Dan’s announcements.

    It is also obvious that word had leaked out prior as the supermarkets were chockers well before the actual announcement. For some it was undoubtedly anticipation – others knew what was coming and told their friends/family. From that point, confidentiality broke down at an exponential rate.

  228. kaysee

    Non-Covid comment
     
    From the archives:
     
    Quick Fact
     
    The story

  229. MatrixTransform

    • A man who travelled from Thornbury to Werribee to get a haircut from his favourite barber;
    • A man who travelled from Bentleigh East to Sunbury for his favourite takeaway; and
    • A man who travelled from Melbourne to Ballarat twice to get some fresh air.

    and did they test positive?
    … didn’t think so either

    It’s about the narrative, Jan

  230. kaysee

    missed out the title:
    Johnny Cash’s Love Letter To June Carter Cash Is One For The Ages

  231. egg_

    be strong and do this proposed lockdown properly otherwise it will never work.

    Farr’s Law says that people work shit out for themselves – the muz zos obviously don’t give a shit about the Hunchback.
    /Happy UberEats

  232. Some History

    Chief Heather Fong (left), the first SFPD female, lesbian chief of police.
    Theresa Sparks (center, former male), president of the San Francisco Police Commission, CEO of a multimillion-dollar sex toy retailer, and a transgender woman.
    Sgt. Stephan Thorne (right, former female), the first transgender SFPD police officer.
    Their Representative in Congress is Nancy Pelosi.
    Try to act surprised.

    The good news is that none of them smoke.

  233. egg_

    From the archives:

    March should serve as an embarrassment to the handwringers.

  234. miltonf

    It’s about the narrative, Jan

    Especially if they were white guys.

  235. Not Uh oh

    Before you know it they’ll be digging escape tunnels under the Murray River. Time for the searchlights and dogs,. Woof woof.

  236. MatrixTransform

    Th missus just emailed me from the other room.

    in Australia COVID is like the Spice Girls.

    … everybody is doing their best

    … except Victoria

  237. egg_

    Blind Freddy could see that back in March

    And Economists were schtum!

  238. John A

    Speedbox #3532655, posted on August 2, 2020, at 5:01 pm

    John A #3532638, posted on August 2, 2020, at 4:53 pm

    Limitations on travel (5km) and even food is being rationed – no more than 2kg of potatoes, carrots or onions. No more than 1kg of red meat or chicken. A slew of other food restrictions are in place.

    Where did you read that?

    Publicised on Woolworths site. Also, the travel restriction is widely published. Dan has been on TV talking about it. Will be enforced by Police (blah blah blah). Includes exercise. Every activity must be within 5km except where you have a lawful excuse. “Expect to be stopped”. No shopping outside your 5km zone.

    I did read the 5km limits but not the food rationing. So that’s just the Colesworths protections against panic buying.

    However, the practical difference is cigarette-paper thin.

  239. cohenite

    There is absolutely no justification for continuing normal economic relations with China, above the bare minimum of selling them basic commodities (which can’t be stolen).

    Yep; the chunks are scum; the hunchback deals with them and the troll supports them what other evidence do you need.

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