Kristallnacht In Karen Town

On at least three or four occasions in the last week, we’ve had to smash the windows of cars and pull people out to provide details because they weren’t telling us where they were going, they weren’t adhering to the Chief Health Officer guidelines, they weren’t providing their name and address.”

– VicPol Chief Commissioner Shane Patton

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77 Responses to Kristallnacht In Karen Town

  1. H B Bear

    We’re at war. Don’t you know.

  2. calli

    And loving every minute of it.

  3. calli

    Ha! Not the “war” bit.

    The intimidation and menacing bit.

  4. Gab

    Let’s not forget this from today’s presser:

    ”People are entitled to their opinions but not when its unlawful” verbatim, just now, by Vic Police Chief Commissioner Patton

  5. Boambee John

    Compare with the VikPol actions as Gargooglearse ran rampant through Melbourne for hours.

  6. billie

    vic police are very selective about when and where they bring in the full force of authority

    certianly none of this happens when they have gangs of youths running wild at parties and in the cbd

    I can see we need to get the chief medical officer to give the nod that bad guys (non coviq19 related) can be pursued with the same rigour as covi19 criminals

    I’m not against the lockdowns and all, but I am amazed at the enthusuasm of the police in dealing with otherwise ordinary citizens as if they were all mass murderers

    will they apply this new found enthusiasm to crimefighting after the covid19 emergency?

    btw – it seems all Karens are white people, or am I just being over simplistic in my view?

  7. thefrollickingmole

    Im beginning to think my ratbag grandfather was onto something when he dragged me along to and anti-ID card meeting in Feraldton all those years ago.

    Why does the state want to control individuals so much?
    Are they sick in the head, perverts , paranoid or just wankers?

  8. sfw

    I thought that you had the right to remain silent, no matter if you’re under arrest or not. Has the CHO implemented regs that remove that right? What are the penalties for refusing to answer questions?

  9. First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. – Martin Niemöller

  10. duncanm

    They were forced to smash in windows and drag out the occupants.

  11. mem

    The people dying are those mainly in hospice and aged care facilities.They were vulnerable from the start and our leaders failed to implement appropriate hygiene and staff protocols in those facilities right up until a week ago. The government’s efforts should be targeted at protecting the vulnerable not treating the whole community like prisoners of war. But Daniel Andrews and his Stasi like troops are on a power trip and can’t admit their failures so instead they up the anti on the rest of us.

  12. Megan

    Let’s not forget this from today’s presser:

    ”People are entitled to their opinions but not when its unlawful” verbatim, just now, by Vic Police Chief Commissioner Patton

    But try telling your local cop shop that your ex-boyfriend is threatening to kill you and your kids and you’ll be sent away with the advice that they can’t do much about threats, there needs to be a crime.

    Patton is a weak, time serving, pathetic result of political brown nosing at Olympic gold medal standards. *waits for knock on the door*

  13. Some History

    EXTRAORDINARY powers

    The number of police officers and protective services officers involved in Operation Sentinel has increased to 750. They’ve been assigned the task of ensuring the community is doing the right thing and complying with directions.
    Police Minister Lisa Neville said a small number of people were knowingly doing the wrong thing.
    “It’s ridiculous. It’s unacceptable. And it is dangerous. That’s why we’ve put in place extraordinary powers,” she said.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/mask-dodging-woman-allegedly-smashed-female-cop-s-head-into-concrete-20200804-p55ica.html

  14. Iampeter

    On at least three or four occasions in the last week, we’ve had to smash the windows of cars and pull people out to provide details because they weren’t telling us where they were going, they weren’t adhering to the Chief Health Officer guidelines, they weren’t providing their name and address.”

    Wait, wait, CL, so you’re saying people should just be able to go about their business without having to be arbitrarily stopped to show their papers? Not even to stop the spread of a disease, as is the most common talking point on issues like this?
    What open border lunacy is this?

  15. Some History

    Translation:

    It doesn’t matter what cockamamie, harebrained “plans” and laws we come up with, just do as you’re told or there will be consequences.

  16. Archivist

    Iampeter:

    Wait, wait, CL,

    It’s nice to see you on the same side and in agreement for once. I guess it had to happen some time or other.

  17. OUTRAGED

    Finally, someone has woken up to the fact that those ignoring home quarantine regulations need to be hunted down and severely penalised for their actions. Don’t just winge about them. Shut that down and build a defensive wall around our oldies and we are well on the way to having this virus contained. Are you able to do that, Dan?

  18. Some History

    Remember? It was just a few months ago. We need to “flatten the curve” or our ICUs will be overwhelmed. Well, ICUs are barely troubled and look at where it’s at in Victoria. The only thing that’s been served is irrational fear/hate and ventures into totalitarianism, par for the course for Public Health.

  19. twostix

    Finally, someone has woken up to the fact that those ignoring home quarantine regulations need to be hunted down and severely penalised for their actions.

    LOL.

    Imagine being a Victorian!

  20. notafan

    None of this is justified in the first place, and people are being defiant because they’re sick of Emperor Dan parading around wearing nothing but his toothbrush moustache.

  21. John A

    Some History #3535108, posted on August 4, 2020, at 2:13 pm

    EXTRAORDINARY powers

    The number of police officers and protective services officers involved in Operation Sentinel has increased to 750. They’ve been assigned the task of ensuring the community is doing the right thing and complying with directions.
    Police Minister Lisa Neville said a small number of people were knowingly doing the wrong thing.
    “It’s ridiculous. It’s unacceptable. And it is dangerous. That’s why we’ve put in place extraordinary powers,” she said.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/mask-dodging-woman-allegedly-smashed-female-cop-s-head-into-concrete-20200804-p55ica.html

    Later, the question needs to be asked: WHAT WILL HAPPEN to those powers when the supposed emergency is over?

  22. Up The Workers!

    Shane Patton?

    Has he arrested Cardinal Pell yet on the unsubstantiated accusations of a dead bloke, for having deliberately started Covid 19?

    Don’t worry about minor considerations like facts or evidence – it’s the “vibe” that counts, as the 7 Justices of the Full Bench of the High Court of Australia kept repeating as they rolled on the floor laughing at proceedings in Dodgy Dan’s comical Appeals Court, whilst they overturned yet another of their clearly wrong verdicts.

    Have the auditions and rehearsals of the A.L.P.-coached self-proclaimed aspiring “victims” been held yet?

    Will his “Forensic Expert”, the world-renowned Carl Beech of Scotland Yard be putting in a personal appearance this time around, or is he still in prison?

  23. twostix
    #3535140, posted on August 4, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    LOL.

    Imagine being a Victorian!

    Don’t laugh too soon, it may come to your state soon enough. Never underestimate the madness of state premiers.

  24. Jock

    They didnt fine the Black Shirts at the BLM/TruFa demonstration/riot. But then Dan (fit name of favorite dictator) would have been upset .

  25. mundi

    We just got a leak of a template from the vic government which is essentially a permit to attend work.

    Apparently will be announced tonight or tomorrow night.

    If you are out after 8pm you will have to have the permit filled in by your employer and kept on you at all time.

    Literally “papers please” is going to be implemented.

  26. I’ll be waiting for the usual Hitler in the bunker video featuring Chairman Dan to be released fairly soon.

  27. twostix

    Don’t laugh too soon, it may come to your state soon enough. Never underestimate the madness of state premiers.

    Our turn comes after the Sept election.

    QLD Labor are not going to scare the horses before then.

  28. Dinky

    twostix
    #3535140, posted on August 4, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    LOL.

    Imagine being a Victorian!

    Quite probably you soon will be.

    There but fot the Grace of God go I

    comes to mind.

  29. egg_

    “Karen Town” could come to a town near you, with all States’ current Health Legislation.

  30. egg_

    Imagine being a Victorian!

    Wind back the tape to March will all those supporting lockdown.

  31. Astatine Jones

    Careful, that bow string might break…

    And ‘smash[ing] the head of the policewoman several times into a concrete area on the ground’ is justifiable civil disobedience by a ‘sovereign citizen’?!?

  32. Lee

    Compare with the VikPol actions as Gargooglearse ran rampant through Melbourne for hours.

    His car was actually stopped by traffic (in Prahran, IIRC) and couldn’t move.
    Apparently, police tailing him were literally within spitting distance, wanted to move in and arrest him, but were told by the powers-that-be to back off, let him go, and arrest him later.
    We all know the very tragic consequences that resulted.
    An extremely damning indictment on senior Victorian police command and ultimately Commissioner Ashton.

  33. Mother Lode

    Not obeying the unelected Chief Medical Officer?

    So who of the elected office holders is taking responsibility for the CMO? Are the politicians really going to sit back and say that the legislation gives him the power and there is nothing they can do about it?

    Are they now dispensing with even the pretense of ‘taking advice from experts’ and admitting they have completely handed power across so they don’t have to accept responsibility?

    The police will never win back what respect and goodwill they had. Much of it was customary, some of it ingrained from childhood when Mummy told you the police looked after you.

    Stopping people driving 5 kph over the speed limit when their car coasts down a hill or trying to get their kid home before they throw up was bad enough. Now smashing windows on cars to interrogate drivers?

    Way to win the community over.

  34. John A

    mundi #3535166, posted on August 4, 2020 at 3:00 pm

    We just got a leak of a template from the vic government which is essentially a permit to attend work.

    Apparently will be announced tonight or tomorrow night.

    If you are out after 8 pm you will have to have the permit filled in by your employer and kept on you at all time.

    Literally “papers please” is going to be implemented.

    I work night shift at a food service warehouse (= essential service).

    Last night before our shift commenced, I received my own letter from the company declaring that I am an essential employee whose work cannot be performed at home. Therefore I am required to present myself at my employer’s address.

    I have to carry it whenever I am out and about.

  35. Bruce

    @Frolickingmole:
    “Why does the state want to control individuals so much?
    Are they sick in the head, perverts , paranoid or just wankers?”

    Embrace the power of “and”.

  36. Lee

    Starting to wonder whether it’s the Cheka, Gestapo, or Stasi running Victoria.

  37. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Starting to wonder whether it’s the Cheka, Gestapo, or Stasi running Victoria.

    The worst features of all three?

  38. Boambee John

    Frollicking

    Are they sick in the head, perverts , paranoid or just wankers?

    As the Instapundit would say, embrace the power of “and”!

    These nongs regard 1984 and The Lives of Others as basic training material.

  39. egg_

    Not obeying the unelected Chief Medical Officer?

    Now smashing windows on cars to interrogate drivers?

    This is what happens when Scotty-from-Marketing hands power over to shiny @arsed bureaucrats.

    One vocal (female) Medic was “terrified” of the virus during a National Cabinet videoconference back February!

  40. egg_

    Mar 23, 2020 – Top doctors call for shutdown in video message. Some of the nation’s top doctors have warned they are “terrified” about the coronavirus …

    Were they all standing on chairs?

    /Daily Telegraph

  41. egg_

    Embrace the power of “fuckwit”.

  42. Farmer Gez

    Has there been a bigger show pony than CHO Brett Sutton?

    Pinup soy boy for the Karens and rainbow Karens.

  43. Farmer Gez

    Sorry, not CHO but CMO – Chief Manscaping Object.

  44. H B Bear

    Chairman Dan has turned the whole of Victoriastan into “No ticket,no start.”

  45. cuckoo

    Has there been a bigger show pony than CHO Brett Sutton?

    Call me cynical, but I wonder if the three-day growth he now sports in the daily press briefing wasn’t actually directed by some government ‘communications’ soyboy, as a subliminal message to the proles about how serious things are. Something like the lone light that shone every night in the Kremlin, when the rest of the building was dark, that was meant to show Comrade Stalin was working tirelessly all night long.

  46. cuckoo

    On the bright side, perpetual campus leftist Annaliese Van Diemen has been quietly moved on.

  47. Speedbox

    I posted this on the OP but is is relevant for this thread.

    Daniel Andrews has announced a permit system for Greater Melbourne, requiring people to show papers to authorities when they’re out and about for legitimate work reasons. The move comes as the capital enters a strict stage four lockdown in a bid to slow the rapid spread of coronavirus, with 439 new cases recorded today.

    Melbourne is the subject of a nightly curfew between 8pm and 5am, with only essential workers and those seeking or providing care able to leave their homes.

    FMD. A permit! “show papers to authorities”

    I mentioned this most recent requirement to my (Russian) wife and she reminded me of her great grandfather who was a General in the KGB. More, he was posted to East Germany after the war and was directly involved in the construction of the wall.

    I remarked that there is now little practical difference between that USSR satellite and ‘modern’ Melbourne. Who would have imagined it would come to this. Ol’ gran dad would be so proud.

    In any case, my wife observed that perhaps communism was the true path all along and we have just regressed back to the natural and correct order of things (note: her comments were dripping with sarcasm).

    As an aside, we still have an Altix V camera that was confiscated off some hapless soul in East Berlin back in the late 1950’s/early 1960’s.

    People of Melbourne – let us know how it works out for you.

  48. cuckoo

    In any case, my wife observed that perhaps communism was the true path all along and we have just regressed back to the natural and correct order of things

    Sorry, I’ve told this story before, but some years ago I was helping a young Russian student, recently arrived in Melbourne, with her research on some architectural history. When she learned that Curtin House, in Swanston Street, once housed the offices of the Communist Party of Australia, she looked at me, utterly horrified, and gasped out “You had a Communist Party in Australia? But WHY?”

  49. Squirrel

    Not here to justify dickheads who think that declaring themselves to be sovereign citizens means they can ignore any law they like, but I’ve little doubt that the spin will be all about this very small minority as a means of distracting attention from the multitude of stuff ups which has brought Victoriastan to its present state – in that sense, the comparison with 1930s Germany is well made.

  50. Nato

    2 female officers. Taken down not by a longshoreman, but by a frumpy Frankston hausfrau.

    I can understand the appeal of police work to a man. Trained killer. Professional violence. I get it

    I can’t understand the appeal to a woman. Is it just me or is there a special zone at the absolute top-right pinnacle of the the hot-crazy matrix reserved just for them?

  51. Old School Conservative

    Not content with moving into totalitarian control in the streets, Victorian parliament (grudgingly sitting) refuses to perform democratic actions:

    Victoria’s Health Minister has extraordinarily refused to give a verbal answer to a single question during upper house question time in state parliament The Australian.

  52. egg_

    Has there been a bigger show pony than CHO Brett Sutton?

    Distanced himself from the Quarantine fiasco.

    If so, he’s just a figurehead turkey away from the levers.

    He can’t have it both ways.

  53. egg_

    Mar 23, 2020 – Top doctors call for shutdown in video message. Some of the nation’s top doctors have warned they are “terrified” about the coronavirus …

    This was regarding the Ruby Princess debacle – when Doctors were cruising in the Antarctic during the “Global Pandemic”.
    These tards don’t do irony.

  54. craig

    Read the link and two female police were assaulted by another female.

    Female police officers are as useless as tits on a bull. Why the fuck would you have two female officers working side by side is a joke, they are fucking useless in a fight, any bloke will take them down in a physical confrontation and most likely end getting the shit kicked out of them let alone a single random female. Ask any male police officer how happy are they to have a female officer walking the beat with them and and not one will admit being thrilled with the idea of a 5 foot 3, 110 pound bag of estrogen working side by side with them. How do I know this? Brother was a police officer and a shit load of his male officer mates were just scathing of female officers in a confrontation and take down situations.

    To all wannabe female equal opportunity kum bye ya fantasists who think a police officer is their life, the shear physical superiority of the bloke will scare the shit of you and when they are throwing you around like a rag doll, don’t think tapping out on the floor will save your ass. Political correctness gone wrong and another female police officer cops it…..

  55. Nato

    But conspiratorially…

    Melbourne has a curfew-free airport, major container ship berthing and the very new and modern Truganina-Tullamarine industrial precincts housing a huge number of Australia’s national distribution centres, built as it is around the goods train lines and freeways .

    Victoria has the only state government stupid enough or Macciavellian enough to take BRI money.

    If The Coof is indeed a tool of the CCP’s intrigues to project power, they lucked in with the right pressure point to squeeze and get rid of one in three warehouse workers.

  56. Lee

    Female police officers are as useless as tits on a bull. Why the fuck would you have two female officers working side by side is a joke, they are fucking useless in a fight, any bloke will take them down in a physical confrontation and most likely end getting the shit kicked out of them let alone a single random female.

    While not opposed to female police officers per se, I don’t like to see them in frontline danger situations.
    Years ago, on Piers Akerman’s blog (IIRC) there was a discussion about this very topic, and one unreformed lefty trotted out the assertion that “female police officers are more likely to calm down a violent confrontation.”
    That is pure conjecture, obviously varies from situation to situation, and what happens if she can’t talk someone down?
    I remember only a few years ago, a J i h a d i s t in Paris, armed only with a knife managed to disarm a female policewoman or security guard of her sub-machinegun.
    Fortunately, a couple of her (male) colleagues managed to shoot and kill the culprit before any harm was done.

  57. Kneel

    “Some of the nation’s top doctors have warned they are “terrified” about the coronavirus”

    Right, that’s good enough for me!
    Time for total lockdown – 8 weeks, no electricity, no gas, no petrol, no supermarket, no water, you will be shot if you leave the house.
    It starts NOW.
    Every resident will be tested at least once a week – failure to take the test for any reason is a capital offense.
    Every time even one Covid-1984 case appears – even asymptomatic, even for a false positive – we will have such a lockdown.
    It’s the only way to be sure.
    As your duly elected leader, I have decided this is what must happen, and that you will obey – or be shot on sight.
    It’s for your own good.

  58. Tim Neilson

    Wait, wait, CL, so you’re saying people should just be able to go about their business without having to be arbitrarily stopped to show their papers? Not even to stop the spread of a disease, as is the most common talking point on issues like this?
    What open border lunacy is this?

    Nothing to do with open borders lunacy. Entering a country illegally isn’t “go[ing] about their business”. Nor is asking someone arriving in the country to show the required papers “arbitrary”.

  59. Lee

    Amazing how he continually and illogically conflates completely unrelated subjects and things, Tim.
    As in this case, comparing Australia’s (and for that matter, every other country’s) rights to enforce and approve beforehand who enters the country, with the rights of Aussie citizens.

  60. Iampeter

    It’s nice to see you on the same side and in agreement for once. I guess it had to happen some time or other.

    Well, we’re not on the same side, since you’re all opposing these lockdowns and permits. Weird.
    You guys should be loving this.

    Nor is asking someone arriving in the country to show the required papers “arbitrary”.

    He says without demonstrating it because he doesn’t know how to demonstrate whether something is arbitrary or not, LOL.

  61. Gab:

    TRIGGS: “SADLY YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU LIKE AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE AT HOME”
    Commissioner Patton ”People are entitled to their opinions but not when its unlawful”

    Distressingly similar, aren’t they.
    Good thing nobody agrees with them.
    /sarc.

  62. Chris M

    Female police officers are as useless…

    Not really. They are good at paperwork, tend to have neat hand writing and excel at handing out fines. And that’s what Australian policing is all about (dead serious). It really seems to bring them joy, they revel in punishing others so make good AU-style cops. Yes quite useless in a physical conflict situation but that’s only a bit part of police work these days, no money in it for a start.

  63. NoFixedAddress

    at least three or four occasions

    could be thirty or forty.. maybe three hundred or four hundred… who knows

    I don’t remember details like that.

    the important thing is we showed them the law.

  64. mareeS

    Gosh, Mundi, that is uber-totalitarialism.

  65. Tim Neilson

    He says without demonstrating it because he doesn’t know how to demonstrate whether something is arbitrary or not, LOL.

    Someone arrives at the border – either they’re entitled to enter or not – how is the border official to determine which? Ask for their passport.

    Not an “arbitrary” request.

  66. rickw

    It’s a freezing night in Melbournibad, Victoriastan.

    At a Vikpol checkpoint, after having smashed their third successive passenger car window for the night over a lack of papers and following guidelines.

    One of them realises something….

  67. LBLoveday

    They are good at paperwork, tend to have neat hand writing and excel at handing out fines.

    .
    A friend was the Duty Sergeant at a very large Police Station and when he saw a male getting stressed he would assign him to a soft job for a few weeks, he’d get his head straight, and back to front-line duty.
    .
    But then came “the little girls with big guns on their hips” – and took all the soft jobs permanently, so the stressed men started going on stress-leave, or quitting for a soft job as a security guard or whatever.

  68. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But then came “the little girls with big guns on their hips” – and took all the soft jobs permanently, so the stressed men started going on stress-leave, or quitting for a soft job as a security guard or whatever.

    Couple of the residents here are retired – long serving, senior – police officers. They claim the average operational career of “the little girls with big guns on their hips” is six or seven years, before they resign, citing stress as the reason.

  69. Old Lefty

    What does Comrade Patton count as unlawful opinion? Being right of the far left? Catholicism? Etc etc.

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