Tuesday Forum: August 4, 2020

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  1. Armadillo

    The puppy I originally sponsored has turned from white to black in the space of 12 short months.

    Saw the fridge magnet whilst stumbling around looking for a beer.

  2. MatrixTransform

    Okay, I’ve found what I was looking for

    good man!

    thanks for the link.

  3. Leigh Lowe

    I notice Cats have been making suggestions about “Taking Action”. Yours is the best suggestion I’ve seen yet. These fuckers (politicians/media) don’t seem to care unless it somehow affects their interests or hip pockets.

    Thanks Arma.
    It has been well documented that Sandmann’s lawyers are picking off targets and building a war-chest to clean up the rest.
    They have got Wapo and CNN.
    The headline numbers were $250 meg and $265 meg respectively.
    OK, the settlements were probably a lot less than that, but he now has a war-chest of tens of millions.
    And all the others in the queue in the US know they have no chance of law-faring him into submission.
    They are battlefield wounded simply waiting to be bayonetted out of their misery.
    Once he takes his next two or three scalps (sorry. Had to say it) in the US, he might look abroad.
    I think if his lawyers show him a vid of a spindly Aussie faggot calling him “pure evil” it might just do it.

  4. Mark A

    It’s killing me, who did they refer to when they said “Robert Wagner is the poor man’s …”?

    I’m talking about RW the actor and twice husband of Natalie Wood.

  5. Armadillo

    Well, there is a philosophical hatred of the ADF in the Victorian left.

    I reckon that statement would apply to most in the far left. The Victorian Government most certainly fits that description. As do the Greens.

  6. Knuckle Dragger

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Yahoo Serious.

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #3538318, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    Maybe Leigh but the hotel thing was never a big job and I doubt unionists would jump at the chance to be infected.

    If it’s anything like that then the Leb connection with security companies would be more of a factor.

    Sorry Gez.
    Shorthand.
    The unions were more concerned about keeping the ADF out of contact tracing, nursing, etc.
    Two reasons. At the lower level overtime and demarcation. Among the higher ups, the fear that ADF personnel might not be badgered into sticking to the narrative.
    The quarantine thing was more about “contracts for maaaates” rather than PS union jobs.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3538326, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Yahoo Serious

    Riiight.
    You do know Yahoo Serious is living in a 12 foot caravan?

  9. Mark A

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3538326, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Yahoo Serious.

    You are no help at all, it’s a game we are playing and I’m absolutely hopeless with pop music and most actors, films etc.

    Google is stumm as well about it.

    BTW Robert W is still alive at 90, ripe for the Covid to claim an other virile man in his prime.

  10. mh

    Four years after Hezbollah’s Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah threatened to hit Haifa’s ammonia tank, Nasrallah saw with his own eyes what such an explosion would do. But it wasn’t in Israel: It was in his own country.
    On Tuesday evening, 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate stored in a hangar at the city’s port exploded, causing a massive explosion and shock wave that tore through Lebanon’s capital of Beirut, killing more than 100 people and injuring thousands.
    When Nasrallah threatened Haifa in 2016, he said it “would be exactly like a nuclear bomb… any rocket that might hit these tanks is capable of creating an effect similar to a nuclear bomb.

  11. Armadillo

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s …”?

    Ted Kennedy.

  12. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘You do know Yahoo Serious is living in a 12 foot caravan?’

    Oh yes. It’s indicative of how rough Wagner’s travelling at present.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Bert Newton.

  14. Mark A

    Armadillo
    #3538332, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:30 pm

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s …”?

    Ted Kennedy.

    I enter that Arma, best suggest yet.

  15. Farmer Gez

    Dunno Leigh.

    I’ll put my money on stupid ministers making really dopey decisions.
    The others around the table must have not even considered that locking up people for two weeks in a dog box would lead to craziness.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Eddie Maguire.

  17. Steve trickler

    Part 2 . Embraced by the community.



  18. Infidel Tiger King

    Macron seems to be intimating that France could take Lebanon back as a colony.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EdAsante77/status/1291347920286035969

  19. Leigh Lowe

    The others around the table must have not even considered that locking up people for two weeks in a dog box would lead to craziness.

    Really Gez?
    Dogbox?
    The Stamford is not too shabby.
    Let me hazard a guess.
    The “crazy floor” stories aren’t about their deprived conditions.
    It was about party drug junkies who can’t go 24 hours without snorting, injecting or otherwise imbibing something.

  20. Armadillo

    I enter that Arma, best suggest yet.

    Sheliahs who can’t swim shouldn’t date/marry good looking rich blokes. It’s logical.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Rod Quantock.

  22. Mark A

    Leigh Lowe
    #3538339, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:34 pm

    Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Eddie Maguire.

    Goody LL, but the peeps in the group wouldn’t have a clue who Eddie is.

    The tribe with the missing teeth is well know in Melb. maybe in OZ but that’s where it ends.

  23. Leigh Lowe

    We have a Harold Holt pool.
    We should have a Natalie Wood/Robert Maxwell ocean swimming trophy.

  24. Mark A

    A feast of grammer (sic) mistakes galore for numbers there.

  25. Farmer Gez

    dog box would lead to craziness.

    Really Gez?
    Dogbox?
    The Stamford is not too shabby.

    I’ve been there but not for two weeks locked down. A palace can be a prison.
    By craziness I meant all the addictions and mental conditions you’d find in any group. I think smokers would be the biggest problem.

  26. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3538342, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    Macron seems to be intimating that France could take Lebanon back as a colony.

    WTF?
    With all the dregs they have had to absorb out of former African colonies, why would he do that?

  27. Knuckle Dragger

    AFL players who’ve only just realised they’re ‘sponsor husbands’ are said to be upset that their spastic WAGs’ demands for free accommodation, free renos in said accommodation, free tutoring and free online shopping among other things have magically leaked to the public somehow.

    Correspondingly, and probably not at all related are tales of both managers and AFL management having the shits on big time at what they’re referring to as ‘schoolies for adults’ in the Gold Coast hub, where 410 family members of players flew in yesterday.

    Jonathan Brown, fearless Warrnambool boy and who could flog a threshing machine with each hand at the same time:

    “Football season’s going on, yes they’re keeping everyone involved, but they’re keeping themselves involved too. I think as footballers, you lose perspective very quickly on how tough life is. You might’ve dropped from $800,000 to $400,000 – well go and have a look and walk the streets of Melbourne at the moment, look at the unemployment queues and Centrelink. Good luck and grow up.”

    What bubble?

  28. notafan

    Maronites have strong historic ties to France.

    Lots of French religious orders ran/ still run schools in Lebanon.

  29. Knuckle Dragger

    Evidently Richmond WAGs are leading the charge, with Trent Cotchin’s trophy wife in the vanguard.

    Apparently she is a COAT.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    I’ve been there but not for two weeks locked down. A palace can be a prison.
    By craziness I meant all the addictions and mental conditions you’d find in any group. I think smokers would be the biggest problem.

    OK.
    But four weeks on we have Plod knees on necks, windscreens smashed in, doors kicked in.
    So they could have and could have enforced quarantine.
    Weak as piss.

  31. Leigh Lowe

    Wrong KD.
    Trent Cotchin is a trophy husband.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    I almost hope one of these WAGS blows up the whole hub thing.
    My dream is a showdown between Palace-chook (enforcing LockDan) and Gillon McPolo-Pony (stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive).
    McPolo-Pony is faced with the choice of canning the season or DQing Richmond.

  33. Armadillo

    Wrong KD.
    Trent Cotchin is a trophy husband.

    The only way to settle this is to find out who the best swimmer is.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    notafan

    #3538354, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:49 pm

    Maronites have strong historic ties to France.

    Lots of French religious orders ran/ still run schools in Lebanon.

    Ah, yeah but, no picky choosy.
    If the Frogs adopted Lebanon, Paris would be European Hezbollah HQ in ten seconds flat whilst Maronites Christians wouldn’t get a look in.
    Do not buy into that one.

  35. twostix

    That Press Conference with Daniel Andrews was the most Victorian thing I’ve ever witnessed.

  36. Would almost pick Palacechook in the octagon against Giiiilllllonnnnn.

  37. Expand twostix please. I caught a couple of soundbites that suggested that Fuckwit Andrews admitted responsibility, but then sort of didn’t by saying he didn’t know who rubber stamped those shambolic decisions, even though he is in charge of the ‘Covid cabinet’.

  38. Armadillo

    Macron seems to be intimating that France could take Lebanon back as a colony.

    Macron actually says if neither side can resolve it, he will do his “political duty”.

    It’s so unlike IT to under react when these statements are made. We are more accustomed to comments like “the French are considering re-introducing the guillotine in Lebanon after the invasion”.

    IT, RUOK?

  39. Leigh Lowe

    twostix

    #3538366, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:17 pm

    That Press Conference with Daniel Andrews was the most Victorian thing I’ve ever witnessed

    He’s fucked and he knows it.
    When Rustadon Raf from the ABC starts giving you shit, the jungle drums have spoken.
    The problem is he will be replaced by an even bigger flog.

  40. Armadillo

    The problem is he will be replaced by an even bigger flog.

    nUmbers?

  41. twostix

    The opposition in Victoria should enter parliament and start voting on and passing legislation just to see what happens.

    The place is in such a ruin, in regards to power and institutions beinng blown out everywhere they’d probably actually get somewhere, at least as a stunt but even possibly politically.

  42. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’ve already lost swimming, water aerobics and tennis

    Yes, I’ve lost swimming and various types of dancing and now I’ve even lost walking. I’ve also lost my oestrogen – verboten now they say, sticking to ‘the rules’ although I blame new BP tabs, calcium blockers, which made my legs swell even before this fracture happened – and these blood thinners are making me tired. Now, after CT scan reveals all, doc wants me to attend a ‘fracture’ clinic. It sounds dangerous.

    At least I have ankles again, dumping the BP meds, and blood thinners doing good works with the clot.

    Matrix, your little vignettes about the Polis and various repartee responses have kept a grin on ma face.

  43. Infidel Tiger King

    That Press Conference with Daniel Andrews was the most Victorian thing I’ve ever witnessed.

    Child sacrifice, black skivvies and 5 people arguing over the best way to make a ristretto?

  44. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I missed Paul Murray tonight so glad to hear he is giving Andrews a serve. Lately I haven’t been able to watch Paul Murray as he’s become so inclined to shriek and bluster and still end up supporting the masked lockdown. So I’ve been getting up from the so to go elsewhere and read or do emails etc after Alan Jones – who is pretty damn good these days. Time was when I could barely listen to him, he seemed such a blow hard rabble-rouser who took unfathomable positions on some things. He’s really matured well now and is tough, incisive and not afraid to go in hard on Vic’s lunacies and on some individual issues as well.

  45. Armadillo

    Yes, I’ve lost swimming

    Evidently not as badly as Mary Jo Kopechne.

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    … up from the sofa

    *puts fainting hand over fevered forehead*

    My grand dad used to call it the settee, but no-one ever does these days.

  47. mindfree

    Actually, much as I hate to admit but fat fuck Murray was spot on tonight on PML exposing Dickhead Danny Andrew’s press conference for the sham it was and calling out Nein and Channel Stokes for framing it as sympathetic and only dedicating less than a minute in an hour long news broadcast to the questions asked by Ferguson and Baxendale

    Campbell Newman commented Andrew’s will slime his way out of this one due to the Melbourne press giving the prick a free pass at every turn

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I am still a trophy wife in Hairy’s eyes.

    But it was getting touch and go with the thick ankles. 🙂

  49. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And so to bed …

  50. Leigh Lowe

    twostix

    #3538372, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:30 pm

    The opposition in Victoria should enter parliament and start voting on and passing legislation just to see what happens.

    The upper house sat, despite a warning off from Hot Button Sutton.
    There must be a mechanism to force a Lower House sitting.
    Perhaps petition the governor to have a sitting in a convention hall (Jeff’s shed) with 5 metre social distancing.
    OK.
    It will probably get canned but it is the sort of stunt which draws attention to the total trashing of public accountability.

  51. MatrixTransform

    The opposition in Victoria should enter parliament and start voting on and passing legislation just to see what happens.

  52. Bruce in WA

    Mark A
    #3538362, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:05 pm
    Lame pics.

    Top selection tonight!

  53. Megan

    The opposition in Victoria should enter parliament and start voting on and passing legislation just to see what happens.

    Excellent plan. Anyone know where the opposition can be found?

  54. MatrixTransform

    in the V for Vendatta TV capture clip …

    in the old people’s home, between the flags, above the TV

    …is that a picture of William Hurt ie Winston Smith?

    i think it is

  55. MatrixTransform

    John Hurt, not William

  56. Leigh Lowe

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    #3538381, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:48 pm

    And so to bed …

    .
    I think the correct expression is …

    Won’t someone embed me ….. 😉😉😉😉😉😉???

  57. Armadillo

    Excellent plan. Anyone know where the opposition can be found?

    Exactly.

  58. Armadillo

    Probably answering letters from Cats.

  59. Paul Murray’s dissection of Premier Dan’s press conference and how the nightly news sound bite is selected is really very good.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    Armadillo

    #3538390, posted on August 7, 2020 at 12:16 am

    Excellent plan. Anyone know where the opposition can be found?

    Exactly.

    The real question is, “where is the media?”
    The opposition took that bint Mikakos to the cleaners in the Upper House the other day.
    Apart from Sky, not a mention anywhere.
    What figleaf are they hiding behind?
    “Oh, well. BIG EMERGENCY. Can’t be pointing fingers.”
    Yes indeed.
    A mere six months ago, at the height of the bushfire emergency, pointing fingers at ScoMo was all the go.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Yep Nelson.
    That is the point.
    Tough to say “where is the opposition” when the media are 100% in Xi-Man’s corner.

  62. Leigh Lowe

    Just me here.
    And absinthe friends.

  63. Armadillo

    If you want to do something, you use their own weapon against them. The law. Individually it’s virtually impossible, however, collectively it’s powerful.

    Media and public opinion used to be a powerful tool. It’s now “fake news”. Talking to or writing to your local member used to be powerful. Mainly before they are elected, much less so after they are elected.

    #tonywindsor

  64. MatrixTransform

    pinot … I can feel my life force slipping away

  65. MatrixTransform

    trouble with Da law is that it too has been deconstructed

  66. Armadillo

    “Oh, well. BIG EMERGENCY. Can’t be pointing fingers.”

    It’s seriously sickening the tragedies incompetent Governments cause.

    Nursing home deaths in NY, bushfires in Australia, flooding in China.

    Don’t let people with a viral flu in a nursing home, don’t let people build in bush land without clearance, don’t build a dam above 38 million people with shit concrete.

    Any idiot could see what was going to happen.

  67. MatrixTransform

    Any idiot could see what was going to happen.

    medical experts whose most important point evah … was some gibberish about Captain Cook

    and Dickless Dan is utterly convinced he’s the right fella, in the right spot, at the right time

    no, they can’t see

  68. Armadillo

    Consequences? None. Justice? Some.

    Why? People are either paid off (insurance/Govenment hand-out) and the masses are just simply indoctrinated into thinking what a marvellous job was done.

  69. MatrixTransform

    let’s see how long joe avg thinks its marvelous with main street gone

  70. Armadillo

    medical experts whose most important point evah … was some gibberish about Captain Cook

    Plague ridden blankets handed to the Indigenous population to decimate them?

    Sounds like payback.

    We got ours on a fast plane direct from Wuhan Laboratories. They built us cities for nix, and corrupted our leaders.

    We got what we deserved.

  71. Armadillo

    I got a really cheap flat screen TV. I shouldn’t complain.

    What’s done is done.

  72. Tom

    In his weekly column in the Paywallian, Henry Ergas is not only a first-class researcher and historian; he also loves words and turning phrases — presented for your reading pleasure:

    Our face work diminished, we cannot mask the cost
    “Are they any use?” Rambert, the journalist, asks in Camus’s The Plague when he is told to put on a mask of cottonwool enclosed in muslin before entering the hospital. No, not really, his guide replies, although they “inspire confidence in others”.

    Of course, Camus could have been wrong. Surgical masks had only been invented in 1897 and, while Malaysian physician Wu Lien-Teh improved their design and pioneered their use in controlling infectious diseases during the Manchurian plague of 1910-11, their efficacy outside the operating theatre remained controversial for decades.

    Yet the vital question for Camus was not clinical effectiveness; it was their impact on a society whose bonds were already fraying as it struggled with a menace it scarcely understood.

    There is, after all, no part of the body that plays as crucial, and as potentially vulnerable, a role in defining personal identity as the face. The “balcony of the soul”, Dante called it, “the lamp lit in the world” by the subject who stands behind it.

    And, while our face announces our distinctive presence, the faces we encounter create, however transiently, a world we share, although in some way remaining beyond it, forever out of reach. Much like our own face, they are, in other words, obviously visible and yet not completely legible: just as a face reveals, so it can deceive, in ways an elbow or shoulder cannot.

    Playing off that ability to reveal and deceive, the mask has always represented both the “defacing” of human individuality and its replacement by an assumed identity or, even worse, by the “facelessness” of anonymity.

    Little wonder then that we “unmask” hypocrisy and deception, while “facing” facts and “facing up” to responsibility. And little wonder too that being surrounded by people wearing masks coats daily life with a deep glaze of oddness, casting ourselves and everyone around us as simultaneously risky and at risk, contaminable and contaminating.

    Freud, who lost his daughter Sophie in the Spanish flu pandemic, called that feeling of estrangement “das Unheimliche”, a term best rendered as a “disturbing strangeness” — a condition in which the unfamiliar seeps into the familiar, undermining our sense of being at home in the world.

    Whether that strangeness will eventually fade is hard to say. What is clear, and makes it especially troubling, is that “reading” the face is at the heart of Western modes of social interaction.

    In Japan, anthropologist Takie Sugiyama Lebra notes, “the front of self — face, eyes, mouth” is regarded as deceptive, while it is “the back of the body which reveals the real unadorned self”. There, far from being alienating, wearing a surgical mask confirms a social norm of maintaining distance, underpinning the mask’s widespread acceptance.

    However, in the West, observing our interlocutor’s mouth is an integral part of sense-making, while smiles, looks and glances — “the currency of our affections” — are the cues that guide the ability to connect.

    Those differences’ origins are controversial. But there is little doubt that the rise in the West of “commercial society”, which, after a slow start in the 18th century, triumphed over everything that stood in its way, made them more pronounced.

    Not Britain but the America of Andrew Jackson, who — leading what would now be called a populist revolt — served as president from 1829 to 1837, marked the turning point.

    The “market revolution” that swept Jacksonian America placed contact with strangers at the centre of economic and social life, making the ability to discern the trustworthiness of people one knew very little about increasingly consequential. As Christopher Lukasik and Martine Dumont separately showed, the result was an explosion of popular interest in physiognomy, as the “art”, and presumed “science”, of assessing character from faces became an enduring obsession.

    At the same time, the Jacksonian transformation of politics, which brought unprecedented numbers of Americans into furiously fought electoral battles, created an entirely new demand to know how the contestants actually looked.

    In a rambunctious democracy, to support a candidate was no longer an act of reverence, as it had been with America’s founding fathers, whose portraits invariably transformed their likenesses into models of virtue’s natural aristocracy; rather, it was the result of identifying with that candidate, and particularly with the earthly, and often earthy, “look and feel” that made him “one of us”.

    Accompanying those changes was another that proved enormously significant in itself and in consolidating the centrality of the face in Western culture: the emergence of the handshake — with its disregard for rank, its market-like ritual of offer and acceptance, and its direct look into the face of the other — as the standard gesture of greeting and farewell.

    Again, Jacksonian America was the pacesetter: as late as 1862, Henry Parkes’s Empire newspaper, which championed mid-century liberalism, could deride American “hand-pumping” as epitomising a society that had no sense of manners. But by the early 1920s, Australia’s aspiring engineers were being taught that the key to success lay in “a cheery ‘good morning’, a hearty handshake and an open smile”, while The magazine Everyone’s marvelled at the major cities’ “modern woman”, who readily shook hands with strangers.

    It is therefore unsurprising that Erving Goffman called his path-breaking study of Western social interaction “Face Work”, returning time and again to the handshake — with its “little dance” in which “faces light up, smiles are exchanged [and] eyes are addressed” — as the exemplar of egalitarian sociability.

    Nor should it come as a surprise that the elbow bump, in which we resolutely stare past each other, hardly replaces it, any more than Zoom conferences and ordering in compensate for limited access to the real thing.

    However, it is not simply the impoverishment of daily life that occurs as the epidemic freezes one element of Western sociability after the other that matters; it is the erosion of the ability to comfortably frequent the public space, which makes navigating the outside world an experience that is less prized than survived.

    That was what terrified Camus: the disengagement from interaction as “a sort of unreality” pervades what used to be face-to-face communications, deadening discussions into “a colloquy of statues”.

    And with people retreating into the isolation of their private sphere, as if the great disaster had already occurred, society becomes weaker and the state – vastly empowered by the crisis, and always poised to abuse ordinary citizens — becomes even stronger.

    Perhaps that is the price we pay for whatever small margin of safety those measures provide. And perhaps there is, in Robert Frost’s phrase, no way out but through. But as sociability dwindles, and our sense of being at home in the world with it, we cannot and should not mask the cost.

  73. Armadillo

    let’s see how long joe avg thinks its marvelous with main street gone

    Some animals are more equal than others.

  74. gafa

    Some things change and some things remain the same. Seems appropriate for the here and now.

  75. MatrixTransform

    Tom, for reasons too hard to explain, the Crazy Old Mole is gonna love that.
    thankyou

  76. MatrixTransform

    gafa … snap.
    was walking on the beach today with that in my head

  77. MatrixTransform

    We got what we deserved.

    depends on the definition of “we”

  78. incoherent rambler

    Just visited an E.D. (avoid it if you can)
    Morphine, fentanyl, oxy. I don’t give a shit about anything.

  79. Armadillo

    In his weekly column in the Paywallian, Henry Ergas is not only a first-class researcher and historian; he also loves words and turning phrases — presented for your reading pleasure:

    Henry is going to be in for a hell of a shock if the distribution chain breaks.

  80. gafa

    was walking on the beach today with that in my head

    Hey MatrixTransform, yes I love how a song you haven’t heard for years can suddenly just come alive again seemingly out of no-where.

  81. Armadillo

    Meeting the “Entitled Generation” won’t be quite as dignified as Henry makes out.

  82. gafa

    incoherent rambler
    #3538414, posted on August 7, 2020 at 2:00 am
    Just visited an E.D. (avoid it if you can)
    Morphine, fentanyl, oxy. I don’t give a shit about anything.

    Handle checks 🤣……….Seriously though, be well, stay strong.

  83. incoherent rambler

    Henry is going to be in for a hell of a shock if the distribution chain breaks.

    the when he realizes the distribution chain is broken

    FIFY

  84. Armadillo

    Tom, that Ergas article would have to be the most stupid article I have ever read.

    Historian? FMD.

  85. Armadillo

    Not only pretentious, but totally preposterous.

    The dude must be living in a cave.

  86. Tom

    Lol, Arma. What does the old commo troll call the Cat? Scrufulous. Takes all kinds.

  87. incoherent rambler

    Victorian COVID restrictions will cost national economy up to $12 billion: PM

    That amounts to the cost of 1.5 freeways not built.

  88. 2dogs

    Why has this person not been prosecuted for this crime?

    How is Twitter not also guilty by hosting it?

  89. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of crooks…

    New York filed a lawsuit Thursday accusing the leaders of the National Rifle Association of rampant fraud for their personal benefit, and seeking to have the powerful pro-gun lobbying group dissolved.

    The state alleges that NRA leadership, including long-time CEO Wayne LaPierre, diverted millions of dollars in charitable donations for personal use. Over a three-year period, the state claims their behavior cost the group $64 million.

    “Mr. LaPierre exploited the organization for his and his family’s personal benefit and a close circle of NRA staff, board members and vendors,” New York Attorney General Letitia James said at a news conference announcing the suit.

    James said LaPierre and others used the NRA as their “personal piggy bank” and said her office had to act now because they had “destroyed all the assets of the organization.”

  90. rickw

    NRA? They’re controlled opposition. Who cares if they’re getting sued.

    GOA is much more aggressive and true to the Second Amendment.

  91. Matrix Transform:

    …is that a picture of William Hurt ie Winston Smith?

    No. I am much more handsome, and have way more hair.

  92. Twostix

    From front page news to the backpage in the blink of an eye:

    A Queensland woman who tested positive to coronavirus has since returned a negative result

  93. feelthebern

    Roger Stone interview from Compound Media.
    NSFW.
    Anthony Cumia, the host drops a c-bomb or two.

  94. Knuckle Dragger

    A bit of brilliance from Henry Ergas that Tom linked to (ta) at oh-dark-thirty.

    Mandatory yet unnecessary masks, of dubious provenance themselves are taking the punters further down the road to being an amorphous collective to be herded into voting booths every few years, rather than a collection of individuals.

    It’s not yet matching grey scratchy pants and jackets for everyone. Yet.

  95. Bruce of Newcastle

    Letitia James

    Ah yes, her.

    Incoming NY Attorney General Already Targeting Trump (2018)

    James’s predecessor, Eric Schneiderman, was forced to resign last May as attorney general after multiple women accused him of sexual harassment.

    Schneiderman was notorious and corrupt. Before Trump turned up he spent years chasing oil companies with spurious charges as a crazy green crusader, and lot of other politically corrupt stuff. James was his offside through all that. Then she distanced herself briefly when Schneiderman was caught being naughty, before stepping seamlessly into the AG position. Where she’s been corruptly pursuing Trump ever since.

    Now the NRA may not be squeaky clean with the donations story – that has been covered here in the past, not least by you – but anything Ms James is involved with is highly unlikely to be kosher either. This smells like a sliming exercise and a squirrel to draw attention away from Di Blasio and his catastrophic actions in NYC.

    NRA has sued James right back again. I know which side I’d put my money on.

    NRA Files Lawsuit Against New York State Attorney General Letitia James (6 Aug)

  96. Just looking at the Beirut explosion.
    If there were fireworks that set off the fertiliser, how come there weren’t sky rockets flying out of the area before the Big Bang?

  97. feelthebern

    How long before we get the real story about Beirut ?

  98. Now the NRA may not be squeaky clean with the donations story

    Understatement – thy name is Catallaxy….

    The NRA has taken fraud to a whole new level.

    In a battle to take control of the NRA, the organization’s president Oliver North and Chief Executive Officer Wayne LaPierre began to publicly air the NRA’s dirty (and expensive) laundry. For starters, according to the New York Times, LaPierre billed to the NRA $275,000.00 for purchases at the Zegna luxury men’s wear boutique in Beverly Hills. North, who was going to serve without pay, had a contract worth millions of dollars a year. Other payments included $60,000 for advertising on a TV show featuring the rock musician and NRA board member Ted Nugent.

    All this while gun deaths of school-age children in the United States have increased at an alarming rate, with 38,942 fatalities among 5- to 18-year-olds from 1999 to 2017, according to a new study by Florida Atlantic University’s Schmidt College of Medicine, reported CNN.

    Dr. Charles Hennekens, the study’s senior author said, “It is sobering that in 2017, there were 144 police officers who died in the line of duty and about 1,000 active duty military throughout the world who died, whereas 2,462 school-age children were killed by firearms,”

  99. Herodotus

    The ABC will surely be onto this and other similar eid animal slaughter stories any day now.
    Breitbart: man slaughters sheep in bath for eid festival and puts video online.

    Link

  100. Herodotus

    Comment “moderated”.
    See you tomorrow. Maybe.

  101. Filbert

    Fuck of Numbers you cowardly, lying Xunt.
    Dan is the word!

  102. shatterzzz

    Translation, what Dan is , actually, saying is,
    ” The bloke in the Caymen’s rang and the money’s in the account”…..

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/daniel-andrews-says-he-is-accountable-for-any-mistakes-in-victorias-covid-19-hotel-quarantine/ar-BB17CU92?li=AAgfYrC

  103. From the Epoch Times:
    Calls to designate the CCP as a Transnational Criminal Organisation.
    Good move.

  104. Knuckle Dragger

    Say what you like, but whoever built that Beirut grain silo next to the 2750 tons of ammonium nitrate that went pop certainly weren’t inscrutable dry cleaners.

    It’s completely fucked, of course, but it’s still standing and deflected a while pile of the blast.

    I’m tipping the Gliks, with their genetic disposition to overengineer with concrete.

  105. Knuckle Dragger

    *whole pile*

    *sparks up*

  106. I wonder if the ALP is starting to get nervous about the Chinese knowing who has been the recipient of the Aldi Bags o’ Cash?
    I’ll bet the recipients didn’t see those particular lengths of string.

  107. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yeah, you put that stuff up before Numbers.

    Which doesn’t detract from the fact that the NY AG’s office is the most corrupt in the country with the possible exception of the DC AG’s office.

  108. Knuckle Dragger:

    Say what you like, but whoever built that Beirut grain silo next to the 2750 tons of ammonium nitrate that went pop certainly weren’t inscrutable dry cleaners.

    I was surprised when it didn’t fall over, let alone disintegrate. I wonder if there are any explosives experts working out what the blast pressures were?
    And you’d be right about the over engineering by the Griks…

  109. feelthebern

    NRA will have their biggest day of donations ever today.

  110. calli

    Those silos are the Lebanese equivalent of the Genbaku Dome.

  111. mh

    feelthebern
    #3538465, posted on August 7, 2020 at 6:49 am
    How long before we get the real story about Beirut ?

    Maybe a PJW video – The Truth About Beirut

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    The NRA will also have lots of new members, since firearm sales are through the roof, and the new owners don’t want the Dems to take them off them. Not with the horrifying rises in crime in New York City in the last month.

    Indeed I think this action against the NRA is all about making it seem like James and Di Blasio are doing something about the carnage, which is of course all due to the BLM stuff, illegal firearms, gangs and the defunding and spaying of the NYPD, and has absolutely nothing to do with legal guns or the NRA.

  113. feelthebern

    Considering the global smother on Joe Biden’s anti 2A tweet yesterday, there will probably be a smother on this NRA case too.
    Doesn’t matter, unless there are mail in ballots, the 2A election of 2020 will be a landslide for Trump.

  114. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I wonder if there are any explosives experts working out what the blast pressures were?’

    Hey.

    Anyone know what the melting temperature of concrete is? I reckon there’s a doco somewhere in this.

    #loosechange

  115. feelthebern

    KD, I find your views interesting & would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

  116. feelthebern

    h/t Homer Simpson

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    Bern,

    It’s a secret newsletter. Not accessible to the general public. Yet. It will be unleashed at the right time, using my contacts and influence along the eastern seaboard.

    Speak to the man with eagles for eyes at Location B for more details.

  118. Old School Conservative

    University dropout:
    Elliott dropped his commerce and law degree, having been an intern at Gilbert + Tobin, to pursue YouTube full-time
    But not doing too badly thank you very much:
    The 26-year-old gamer Elliott Watkins, one of Australia’s biggest gaming personalities, has just spent $9,125,000 on a home in Tamarama.

    OK – how’s that done?

  119. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3538457, posted on August 7, 2020 at 6:32 am”

    Thanks Bern. Roger Stone is always good to listen to.

  120. Snoopy

    Maybe a PJW video – The Truth About Beirut

    PJW’s last YouTube video was about 5 weeks ago.

  121. feelthebern

    KD, why not just build a website or two?
    I hear it works a treat.

  122. calli

    Has PJW been “disappeared”?

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘KD, why not just build a website or two?’

    I haven’t got 20 large just lying around y’know.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    Hahahaaa. Just saw the footage of the Beirut bride showing off her wedding ensemble for the camera as BANG happened.

    Reckon there’s a Bridezilla of epic proportions still going off like, well, a warehouse full of ammonium nitrate right now.

  125. Cassie of Sydney

    Leigh Lowe
    #3538394, posted on August 7, 2020 at 12:28 am

    The real question is, “where is the media?”

    MIA….conveniently schtum because Dan Xi Man is their guy….he is a far-left progressive. Just imagine the howls and screams and screeches from the MSM if the current premier of Victoria was a liberal or conservative? Just imagine the howls and screams and screeches from the MSM if the current Health Dept head in Victoria wasn’t a far-left, progressive, gay, soyboy failure…who takes stress leave when the going gets tough.

    The problem in the west is the MSM.

  126. Tel

    I missed Paul Murray tonight so glad to hear he is giving Andrews a serve. Lately I haven’t been able to watch Paul Murray as he’s become so inclined to shriek and bluster and still end up supporting the masked lockdown.

    Murray is good when he wants to be, but doesn’t go too far off the plantation.

    You can catch up with back episodes on the podcast a few days after it’s been on Fox.

    https://podtail.com/en/podcast/sky-news-pm-live/

    Being able to skip the bits you don’t like might help.

  127. Farmer Gez

    Anyone know what the melting temperature of concrete is? I reckon there’s a doco somewhere in this.

    It explodes first.
    That’s why you never use a blowtorch directly on cement.

  128. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3538501, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:54 am
    Has PJW been “disappeared”?”

    I don’t think so.

  129. notafan

    Andrews pointing to a ‘super spreader’.

    And taking responsibility, but not really.

    I don’t want endless correspondence with lnp, I want them to take a different view on best response and fire up.

  130. Struth.

    26 million people have lost democratic lawmaking, have lost free movement, and cannot congregate, and 5 million Melbournians are locked down harder than a Pedo under house arrest. Millions of lives lost, suicides, mental health, careers, all lost, people dying with no funerals, marriages postponed indefinitely, and on the list goes. Must show your papers TO BE ON THE STREET.
    Melbourne is making International news due to it’s hardcore imprisonment of it’s people, all made possible by first disarming the people, just as Hitler did, just as all tyrants do before taking over.

    Numbers thinks this is a good time to bring up gun control.
    FMD.

  131. Cassie of Sydney

    “Hahahaaa. Just saw the footage of the Beirut bride showing off her wedding ensemble for the camera as BANG happened.”

    I watched it….I’m still not sure what scared me more…the Muesli bridezilla with her Pompeian levels of make up or the BIG BANG in the background.

  132. Mater

    Just looking at the Beirut explosion.

    That was Beirut?
    I thought it was footage of the Victorian economy.

  133. stackja

    Cassie of Sydney
    #3538506, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:59 am
    Leigh Lowe
    #3538394, posted on August 7, 2020 at 12:28 am

    The real question is, “where is the media?”

    MIA….conveniently schtum because Dan Xi Man is their guy….he is a far-left progressive. Just imagine the howls and screams and screeches from the MSM if the current premier of Victoria was a liberal or conservative? Just imagine the howls and screams and screeches from the MSM if the current Health Dept head in Victoria wasn’t a far-left, progressive, gay, soyboy failure…who takes stress leave when the going gets tough.

    The problem in the west is the MSM.

    The problem in the west are the MSM supporters/subscribers.

    The New York Times Circulation: 571,500 daily 1,087,500 Sunday 2,900,000 digital-only (as of May (Sunday) / November (daily) 2016 / (Digital-only) August 2018)

  134. Cassie of Sydney

    “Murray is good when he wants to be, but doesn’t go too far off the plantation.”

    Yes. Murray is what you call a “fair-weather” friend.

  135. notafan

    And another impact it is having is on patient care for no covid19.

    Cancer patients being told to avoid more complex surgery with longer recovery times.

    Therapies normally administered over a six month period being given in bigger doses over three-month period.

  136. Knuckle Dragger

    Okay.

    Fog in Darwin. End of times.

  137. notafan

    Knox private hospital is now a covid19 hospice.

    St Basils patients moved there, don’t know how many, still believe many frail elderly only getting palliative care which should boost Pandanics daily tragedy numbers nicely.

  138. Bear Necessities

    The best gun salesmen in America at the moment are BLM and Antifa. As long as you have them on parade the 2nd amendment is fairly safe.

  139. ‘KD, why not just build a website or two?’

    I haven’t got 20 large just lying around y’know.

    You need zero dollars to build a website.
    You do need basic literacy skills.
    Oh wait…..

  140. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Chicom propaganda:

    war is coming

  141. Mater

    You need zero dollars to build a website.
    You do need basic literacy skills.
    Oh wait…..

    There’s that steamy pile of hate again, sans facade.

  142. Top Ender

    Big fog in Darwin – best I’ve ever seen. Viz down to 50m in places.

  143. As long as you have them on parade the 2nd amendment is fairly safe.

    Perhaps, but the NRA is buggered.

    Like open carry, NRA ideology doesn’t hold up well in real life. “Good guys with guns” too often turn out to be bad guys who kill. And what are the chances that a very stupid, very reckless “good guy” will eventually shoot an innocent person while trying to be a hero? I’d guess the chances are quite high. Meanwhile, social media readily spreads news stories of foolish gun owners leaving senseless destruction in their wake.

    Demographic decline also beckons. As Adam Winkler explained in The Washington Post, the growing parts of the population – Hispanics and Asians – generally support gun regulation, as do blacks. The NRA’s old, white base is in steady decline as both a portion of the population and electorate.

  144. Bruce of Newcastle

    It explodes first.
    That’s why you never use a blowtorch directly on cement.

    It has a lot of water in the crystal structure:

    Tobermorite

    Tobermorite is a calcium silicate hydrate mineral with chemical formula: Ca5Si6O16(OH)2·4H2O … Tobermorite occurs in hydrated cement paste

    The other minerals comprising cement are similar, with a lot of bound water – which becomes unbound, forming steam upon heating.

  145. Struth.

    Paul Murray is useless and BronnyBishop exposed him as the paid off Liberal Party hack he is.
    She called backing out of the constitution case pathetic.
    Which it is.
    She said some good things about the adherence to the constitution, so I suppose that make her a sovereign loon to the denialists in da ‘ouse.

    Dan admitting he is responsible doesn’t matter to Dan.
    This whole stage four is about seeing how hard he can push , and he has the backing of the Feds.
    I take his admission of responsibility the way he intended it.
    He’s decide Victorians are gullible, gutless mugs and he now owns you by force.
    And at the moment he is completely spot on.
    He’s telling you, quite clearly, that he doesn’t give a shit if we think he is responsible or not.
    Does anyone here still think he is concerned about the next election?
    As if there will be one.

  146. Farmer Gez

    notafan
    #3538521, posted on August 7, 2020 at 8:12 am
    Knox private hospital is now a covid19 hospice.

    It should have happened from day one.
    Anyone who thinks that the out of season tanned soy boy Sutton had any idea of how to manage risk should remember this.
    He’s as culpable as Doofus Dan.

  147. Mater

    Bob,
    Did you hear the Beirut explosion in Toowoomba?

  148. Bruce of Newcastle

    Daniel Greenfield says it better than I.

    While Criminals Terrorize New York, NY AG Illegally Tries to Dissolve NRA

    Whatever may or may not be wrong at the NRA, AG Letitia James has made no secret of targeting it because she opposes its politics. Despite widespread abuses at the Southern Poverty Law Center and other lefty groups, there’s never been a concerted effort to shut them down.

    An Attorney General grotesquely abusing the powers of her office to go after her political opponents is dangerous and corrupt.

    Yep. And she’s doing it 3 months out from the election. Weird huh?

  149. Farmer Gez

    The other minerals comprising cement are similar, with a lot of bound water – which becomes unbound, forming steam upon heating.

    Thanks BoN.
    Every tradie and welder knows it’s liable to blow up in your face but I never knew exactly why.

  150. Struth.

    The real question is, “where is the media?”

    MIA….conveniently schtum because Dan Xi Man is their guy….he is a far-left progressive.

    Calling the MSM missing in action is like saying Goebbels sat out the war.

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    Galaxies and stars are racist.
    (via BCF)

  152. calli

    I thought something quite different about that bride. How lovely she was and quick response to the shock from the blast.

    A cultural difference with the makeup, but have you seen western females lately? Freida Kahlos all.

    Poor girl, but it will give her wedding day stories some extra oomph for wide-eyed grandies years from now.

  153. Cassie of Sydney

    “Mater
    #3538535, posted on August 7, 2020 at 8:28 am
    Bob,
    Did you hear the Beirut explosion in Toowoomba?”

    Better question is…was Bobby the racist Jooo hater there? After all, as he is our very own Forrest Gump, Bobby is always a personal eyewitness to all the world’s epic events.

    He was there…he knows.

  154. calli

    You guessed it, I have a soft spot for brides.

    At least she gave the dressmaker something to work with. No NudieBrides in Muesli Land.

  155. Cassie of Sydney

    “BronnyBishop exposed him as the paid off Liberal Party hack he is”

    yes Struth however Bronny isn’t perfect….she voted for Turdbull back in September 2015 and whilst she went on to have buyer’s remorse, in September 2015 she put her personal animosity ahead of the country.

  156. Struth.

    If this protest is to go ahead tailgunner it will all be about getting the vision of the police reaction.

    It’s going to be poo poo-ed by the typical cowards, many claiming to be of the right, however, quite simply, there is now no other choice.
    It’s not a good situation to be in, but your protest will not be futile, the next one will be built from it, and from the vision spread of the reaction the police took .
    Don’t pay fines.
    That is an admission that you believe they have the right under law to issue them.
    Make sure you get the message out to those contemplating joining, that being issued a fine doesn’t mean you automatically pay it.
    Take every single one to the court if you have to.
    The reality being that if you guys can get your freedom back, on the very slim chance now, those fines won’t be chased up.

  157. Boambee John

    shatterzzz
    #3538472, posted on August 7, 2020 at 6:54 am
    Translation, what Dan is , actually, saying is,
    ” The bloke in the Caymen’s rang and the money’s in the account”…..
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/daniel-andrews-says-he-is-accountable-for-any-mistakes-in-victorias-covid-19-hotel-quarantine/ar-BB17CU92?li=AAgfYrC

    Did he do the full Peter Beattie, and finish with “Now, it’s time to move on!”?

  158. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3538482, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:14 am

    Those silos are the Lebanese equivalent of the Genbaku Dome

    That is my brothers name … Cy Lowe.

  159. lotocoti

    Galaxies and stars are racist.

    Something else which is racist: mentioning an exciting new hire’s penchant for GBH and schoolgirls.

  160. Mark A

    Arma, we was wrong with the quote about Robert Wagner.

    The correct one apparently is “Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Brian Dennehy”.

    Like you said, I thought Ted Kennedy was a better fit

  161. Infidel Tiger King

    The correct one apparently is “Robert Wagner is the poor man’s Brian Dennehy”.

    Nice pair.

    Wagner murdered his wife. Dennehy was a stolen valour perpetrator.

  162. Struth.

    yes Struth however Bronny isn’t perfect….she voted for Turdbull back in September 2015 and whilst she went on to have buyer’s remorse, in September 2015 she put her personal animosity ahead of the country.

    Too true, but if even she can see that they’ve put themselves above the rule of law, and he can’t we know who’s more of the party hack.

    He tried to shut her up quick smart.
    That other ex military apologist also a traitor.
    Willing to put their lust for power above the rule of Law.
    The reality to anyone who reads the very very basic and simply worded short couple of pages of our constitution can be in no doubt as to who is to blame for the overall mess.

    And it’s been pointed out to them that we know.
    Sco Mo’s just staying quiet and dishing out enough money so we’ll never be a first world nation again, and they are all just in the “normalisation” phase.
    Where so much time passes, you forget what freedom was.
    After five months look at people even on this right wing blog.

    “Bullshit, don’t scare me by claiming we’ll run out of food! If it looks like that is going to happen then Dan will ration it”

    Said on this very blog after 5 months of unelected, undemocratic, tyrannical rule.

  163. BrettW

    From Herald Sun.

    On July 30, the PM said the “heart” of his concern around Victoria was the time taken to test and trace contacts.

    There were also issues with a lack of Victorian data at a critical meeting on Thursday last week, as record case numbers prompted a push towards sweeping new lockdown rules.

    Senior health officials told the Herald Sun Victorian authorities has been “almost obstructive” in the way they dealt with the AHPPC.

    Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt on Thursday said he was not sure all states had been able to “provide full public transparency” but was confident they were trying.

    He said the data-sharing agreement was implemented following requests from Mr Morrison and Acting Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly.

    “They were very, very keen to be able to collate and share all data to make sure it is available to all,” Mr Hunt said.

    It is understood public health officials have adjusted their briefings over the past month after concerns were raised the modelling being presented was well below the actual number of infections in Victoria. They are now basing decisions using different figures based on a higher range of daily confirmed cases.

  164. Farmer Gez

    Wagner murdered his wife. Dennehy was a stolen valour perpetrator.

    Natalie Wood was a half crazed Russian loon.
    Heading off in a dinghy in the middle of the night because she had a screaming fit it totally consistent with her nature. Wagner deserves a medal for putting up with her twice.

  165. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3538500, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:53 am

    KD, why not just build a website or two?
    I hear it works a treat.

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3538502, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:54 am

    ‘KD, why not just build a website or two?’

    I haven’t got 20 large just lying around y’know

    Can websites be remodelled and repurposed?
    Might be a cheaper alternative.
    I have a vague recollection of someone here mentioning that they had some websites – Very Big Websites – but wasn’t sure if he (or she) was going to use them
    Can anyone remember that?

  166. Struth.

    Numbers, your side hates the one percenters, but now you remain silent when only rich people and the political class can afford to fly, some not even needing to quarantine even though they could afford it and it would be picked up by the taxpayer anyway.

    Crickets from the left.

    Toxic masculinity also a huge problem for the left.
    Except when it comes to Dan.
    Then there are moist lady journalists flushed with excitement due to Dan’s masculine press conferences.

    Hypocrisy is the left, in all it’s activism, and in all it’s silence.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    “Mater
    #3538535, posted on August 7, 2020 at 8:28 am
    Bob,
    Did you hear the Beirut explosion in Toowoomba?”

    No.
    But he did hear a B52 bombing Mildura.

  168. Cassie of Sydney

    “After five months look at people even on this right wing blog.”

    I’m sure Sinc would take issue with calling this blog “right-wing”. I think this blog’s makeup is of an assorted and varied collection of libertarians, right-wingers, conservatives, eccentrics and then there’s the unholy trinity of cranks – the Toowoomba Turd…aka racist…aka eternal Joooo hater, Grigory….aka 8th Dan…aka William the Conjurer (to name just a few of his sock names) and Donut muncher.

  169. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #3538537, posted on August 7, 2020 at 8:31 am

    The other minerals comprising cement are similar, with a lot of bound water – which becomes unbound, forming steam upon heating.

    Ooohhh.
    Expanding steam.
    If you want to do a spectacular Professor Julius Sumner-Miller demo of that, throw a lemonade can with a bit of liquid in it into a molten aluminum furnace.

  170. Mater

    It’s going to be poo poo-ed by the typical cowards, many claiming to be of the right, however, quite simply, there is now no other choice.

    Struth,
    The time is not right for open civil disobedience down here. They haven’t had it hard enough, yet. It’s not that the majority agree with what is going on, just that they still see them ‘law’ as righteous. Most would currently acquiesce to the Nuremberg Laws, if implemented by the appropriate authority.

    Consequently, such protests are being seen as troublemakers only. VICPOL could phone book every protester in front of Parliament House, and social media would generally accept that the punishment was too light.

    Again, the time is not right. They need to stew a little more. Level 5 would speed up the process.

  171. Cassie of Sydney

    “Toxic masculinity also a huge problem for the left.
    Except when it comes to Dan.”

    Am I missing something? I fail to see any masculinity in Dan Xi Man.

  172. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From mh at 7:34 am:

    Have faith in the youth of America

    Posting photos like that is a r8ce h8te crime isn’t it?

  173. min

    There are still untraceable contacts of 70 covid cases spreading the virus around and I have been told by someone who refused job to fix it , that the contact tracing is absolute shambles. Even if we are all locked up apart from construction workers, police, supermarket workers etc. I cannot see the numbers waning enough to let us out.
    Many are saying Melbournians have succumbed to the Stockholm Syndrome , however we are allowed out although only for an hour a day who can check this.
    I walk in local park could go all day if I wanted , numbers of others depends on time of day , however do see neighbours there and have a little chat ? This is is why that syndrome won’t take over as people have to be locked away from others with no way of getting out or talking with others outside . Well what are we doing with other Cats who are not in Dan’s limbo ? Or like fellow locked downers on Zoom plotting legal methods of changing the situation .
    There will be those, I do know some , who would be psychologically predisposed to lapse into Give up and love it . As to the numbers who will stand by Dan ,apparently demographics of workers here points to substantial number on government pay .

  174. MemoryFault

    As if there will be one.

    There wll be elections, Struth. Even at the height of its power there were elections in the Soviet Union. It is the outcome which will be a foregone conclusion. I can’t comment on the various States, but federally it will go something like this:

    At the moment if you want to run for a seat in the HoR, you have to pay a deposit of $1,000. For the Senate it is $2,000. In the HoR to get your deposit back you need to obtain 4% of the first preference votes. This is separate from the public funding of around $2.70 per first preference vote, which also requires 4% of the first preference votes before you qualify for it.

    Okay, so before the next federal election Libs, Labor, the Nats and the LNP combine to raise the deposit to $10,000, and the qualifying limit on both to 10% of the first preference votes. For the majors, this is no problem. They know they are going to get the 10% qualifying limit, so they can just borrow the money on an overdraft, and all it will cost them is the interest that accrues in the approximately eight weeks between when they have to pay it, and when they get it back.

    But what about somebody running as an Independent? What about a small or fledgling new party? Consider somebody Cory Bernardi and the AC. Or Custard? How many of them can raise that sort of money? And how many of them can be fairly certain of getting 10% of the first preference vote? Under those circumstances, what bank is going to let them run it up as an overdraft?

    I have no idea just how they will word it, but they will eliminate most of the potential competition before they even get to the starting gate, using some variant of what I just described above.

  175. feelthebern

    Mater
    #3538535, posted on August 7, 2020 at 8:28 am
    Bob,
    Did you hear the Beirut explosion in Toowoomba?

    Bwahahahah
    Mater wins the interwebs today.

  176. 132andBush


    Cassie,
    The problem in the west is the MSM.

    Started back in the 60’s.

    Really stark with their boosting of global warming catastrophe.

    Reaching new lows with the hysteria being whipped up around Covid.

  177. calli

    The “laws” will only be considered righteous until enough people are negatively impacted – really negatively, not just receiving the playground softfall that’s happening now.

    There is still money, food, communication, energy. Loss of freedom is seen as a small concession while these are still available. When they go, different story.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Mater

    #3538570, posted on August 7, 2020 at 9:04 am

    So, Mater, we leave the [XX-99’s] buried for now?
    But I agree.
    It is slowly coming to a simmer but there isn’t enough momentum yet.

  179. feelthebern

    If Dan Andrews says super spreader watch:
    1) The ABC;
    2) The Project;
    3) Insiders
    All boost the story.

    Funny how they all smother the super spreading the BLM (in name only) protests caused.

  180. Shy Ted

    Galaxies and stars are racist. So is Uranus homophobic? Mine is, I like ladies.

  181. MemoryFault

    The time is not right for open civil disobedience down here. They haven’t had it hard enough, yet. It’s not that the majority agree with what is going on, just that they still see them ‘law’ as righteous.

    +100 Mater.

  182. feelthebern

    It’s also amazing to see Vic ALP talking points all start trending on twitter with less than a thousand bots pushing it, whereas an anti-Clinton trend with over 300,000 was canned by twitter.

  183. Leigh Lowe

    Okay, so before the next federal election Libs, Labor, the Nats and the LNP combine to raise the deposit to $10,000, and the qualifying limit on both to 10% of the first preference votes

    $10 large deposit?
    I had $20 k stashed away.
    Could have funded two deposits.
    Gone now.
    Spent a lot of it on MX5’s, luvverly ladies and absinthe.
    The rest I just frittered away on building Big Websites.

  184. Shy Ted

    Just confirming what Struth said yesterday, here in outback-ish Qld significant shortages on supermarket shelves. Luckily lots of chunky (large, not Chinee) characters who will be nice on a BBQ and provide protein for weeks.

  185. calli

    On the news just now. People affected by the bushfires demanding that the government “do something – now”.

    Sorry guys. Get in line.

  186. Shy Ted

    Remember folks, innocent til proven guilty. Or conservative. Or centre. Or not left enough.

  187. feelthebern

    Breaking news.
    US looking at the biggest onion recall since records began.
    No this is not a gag.

  188. Makka

    He’s done it again;

    Biden: “By the way, what you all know but most people don’t know, unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things.”

  189. Infidel Tiger King

    Covid lotto predictions?

  190. Makka

    The new NY AG. Yep a PoC whose most important task after months of street violence, rampant murders and shootings, arson and defunding the NYPD is to ……. go after the NRA? No wonder people are bailing out of Cuomo’s Dem shithole;

    https://rantingly.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/a0d15f301fc795b6371670a968c7508f.jpg

  191. dopey

    Jason Day leading at the PGA.

  192. notafan

    As LL pointed out yesterday, if there are product shortages in Queensland that has zip to do with Melbourne distribution restrictions that started yesterday.

    It’ll be panic buying, that buyers/forecasters couldn’t have planned for.

    I hope those shelves stay empty, after all your pm has banned all poxy Victorian from entering Queensland, that should also include our manufactured goods.

    We can cope without bananas.

    Cheers.

  193. Struth.

    Struth,
    The time is not right for open civil disobedience down here. They haven’t had it hard enough, yet. It’s not that the majority agree with what is going on, just that they still see them ‘law’ as righteous. Most would currently acquiesce to the Nuremberg Laws, if implemented by the appropriate authority.

    Consequently, such protests are being seen as troublemakers only. VICPOL could phone book every protester in front of Parliament House, and social media would generally accept that the punishment was too light.

    Again, the time is not right. They need to stew a little more. Level 5 would speed up the process.

    Yes that’s for Victorians to choose, I get that, but was it not weeks away, anyway?
    If they are not pissed off enough by now, quite frankly we are all fucked, to use the technical term.

    If he gets away with this, we are all gone.

    From my own stand point, coming from leading the convoy, shit, the things they did and the names they called us redneck middle aged white men and the commentary from the media was completely over the top.
    They lost their shit completely.
    Why?
    Because the right wing side of politics is never supposed to push back.
    You’re never going to get good media, if you get any.
    The idea is to get it out to others that you are doing it.
    I think at least 3/4 of the state are fuming beyond belief and being typical Australians, they keep quiet for the sake of upsetting the hysterical Karens out there.

    When you finally do something, and people see you do it, it inspires them.

    And the left will fold .
    That’s the big secret.
    They not only hate us, they are scared of us.
    It’s only a politicised Police force you need to concern yourself about, and they have to be careful what they do to some extent as well.

    If they only have 100 seriously, I’d still do it, but I’d do it in cars with signs.
    If it got above a thousand, you could go on foot, but it plays straight into their hands in a way.

    You also need to get the right wing men activated.
    Without meaning to be divisive, it’s just a fact that most urban tough guys are union thugs.
    There isn’t much masculinity to be found in the urban right, (yes have a go at me, blah blah) and what is required here is Masculinity.
    I’d be trying to organise a big rally in Ballarat, heading to the Eureka Park, with country blokes.
    Something a long those lines.
    Get lots of vision of it.
    and get it on the net, everywhere.
    You have nothing to gain in talking to any MSM person.
    Any of them.
    Waiting isn’t really an option, as I have said all along, it’s time spent under this oppression that crushes the spirit.

    If they still need more time, they’ll take the whole country down with them.

  194. notafan

    637 and 11 deaths for me thanks IT

  195. Leigh Lowe

    Shy Ted

    #3538592, posted on August 7, 2020 at 9:22 am

    Just confirming what Struth said yesterday, here in outback-ish Qld significant shortages on supermarket shelves.

    Which is caused by panic buying, not logistics.
    One of the problems in rural areas is where there is a single Colesworth shop.
    It is usually managed by one of their dimmer bulb managers and is generally a fuck up on roller skates.

    Example.
    We used to live in a country town which had a single Colesworth after the independent shut-down due to a tenancy dispute.
    There was a big festival every year on the same weekend which drew a stack of visitors.
    Even though it was only two hours from Melbourne, and trucks arrived at regular intervals each day, it would be cleaned out by the Saturday morning of that weekend every year and not fully replenished until the middle of the next week.
    The manager was a dick.

  196. notafan

    150 infected at St Basils

    If they are only being offered palliative care they’ll be providing a nice crop for Pandanic ‘s daily death tally time.

  197. Struth.

    You’re not doing yourself any favours, Notafan.

    You made your bed…………..

    I got better things to do than argue with some dumb Karen who dreams up things people said and makes stupid comments about bananas.
    On the contrary, I think you could do with a good Banana or two.

  198. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3538601, posted on August 7, 2020 at 9:30 am

    Covid lotto predictions?

    Bad day for Dan yesterday so I am going lower on reported infections.
    386 for me.
    I don’t think they will play Weekend at Bernies with corpses so give me a dozen deaths please.

  199. Leigh Lowe

    On the contrary, I think you could do with a good Banana or two.

    Benny Hill is alive and living in Queensland!

  200. Leigh Lowe

    Struth at 9:36.
    Can you expand on that a little?

  201. Leigh Lowe

    notafan

    #3538606, posted on August 7, 2020 at 9:35 am

    As LL pointed out yesterday, if there are product shortages in Queensland that has zip to do with Melbourne distribution restrictions that started yesterday.

    It’ll be panic buying, that buyers/forecasters couldn’t have planned for.

    The experience here with panic buying was that it came in three waves.
    The first was widespread.
    The second was shortlived and in the inner city.
    The third was totally localised to “culturally enriched and/or low intel” suburbs.
    Draw your own conclusions.

  202. Mater

    The “laws” will only be considered righteous until enough people are negatively impacted – really negatively, not just receiving the playground softfall that’s happening now.

    There is still money, food, communication, energy. Loss of freedom is seen as a small concession while these are still available. When they go, different story.

    Spot on, Calli.
    I ran an experiment the other day.
    A couple (family friends) were saying that Dan was doing a good job, so I said that as far as I was concerned, both of them should not be allowed to go to work. I said that I considered neither essential (under the current circumstances) and that both posed a risk of spreading the virus unnecessarily.

    Well, fuck me if I wasn’t abused about how it was ok for me because I could work from home, etc, etc, etc.

    The tune went from Classical, to Punk Rock, in about three seconds.

  203. Geriatric Mayfly

    Galaxies and stars are racist.

    Black holes gobbling up white dwarves, red giants exploding and disturbing the hood, dark matter unseen and lurking, ultra violet stimulating melanin, too many photons green biased, solar eclipse says it all.

  204. Struth.

    LL, you have been on here 24/7, now for months.
    If we added up all your attempts at humour here, and the fact that most of the time you say nothing other than what you must believe are witty quips, and put all these posts together, they’d drag all the pixels to the bottom of the screen.
    I’m here morning shift for a few hours.

    Pop in some other times here and there.
    Deal with and get a life.

  205. notafan

    The cow herder making disgusting personal remarks.

    Surprise!

  206. Struth.

    The cow herder making disgusting personal remarks.

    Surprise!

    What???!!!

  207. notafan

    Dumb as a box of rocks.

    #we’reinthistogether

    Remember?

  208. Struth.

    That’s just your mind going Notafan.
    Which is why I think you need the potassium in Bananas.
    Good for your brain, and what is ailing you.

    What were you thinking?

  209. notafan

    Can’t remember what he said two posts ago.

    Sad.

  210. Old School Conservative

    The biosecurity bubble that the NRL teams are living under is quite onerous but has to be done to keep playing and travelling.
    I have some sympathy for St George Illawarra prop Paul Vaughan (breakfast in a cafe) and South Sydney coach Wayne Bennett (lunch with his “partner” at Grappa in Leichhardt). Both banned for two weeks.
    Seemingly innocent, normal pastimes, done thousands of times by most Australians but not part of the NRL’s contract with State governments.
    They will be sacrificed to ensure the whole shebang doesn’t get cancelled, whether they test positive after their indiscretions or not.

  211. mh

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #3538574, posted on August 7, 2020 at 9:09 am
    From mh at 7:34 am:

    Have faith in the youth of America

    Posting photos like that is a r8ce h8te crime isn’t it?

    Yes, and it’s been posted 3 times now.

  212. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From lotocoti at 8:45 am:

    ” Galaxies and stars are racist.

    Something else which is racist: mentioning an exciting new hire’s penchant for GBH and schoolgirls.

    Liverpool Museum UK has appointed a new historian to lecture r8cist whites on slavery, with a history that demonstrates the emerging ruling class does not have to meet any standards of commercial achievement, business or personal integrity, academic performance, morality, social responsibility or non-criminality

    “Westgaph’s glossy, uber-cool public persona also masked a darker side to his life.

    … declared bankrupt last year after his property business – renting out cheap bedsits to students – collapsed with debts of thousands of pounds.

    … conviction for having sex with a 15-year-old girl in 2000.

    Or that while his (now ex) girlfriend was pregnant with their son, he cheated on her with an 18-year-old glamour and lingerie model he met in a Liverpool nightclub.

    Crucially, statements given by Westgaph’s victim, 28-year-old Ben Blance, which were not read out in court after Westgaph entered a guilty plea, reveal a far more disturbing picture than has previously been revealed.

    At Liverpool Crown Court, Westgaph was presented as a man who acted in a fit of rage after ‘finding’ what he described as his ‘closest confidant’ in bed with the mother of his 23-month-old son, Iggy.

    … Westgaph broke down the front door of ex-girlfriend Natalie Inge’s home … vicious assault on musician Ben Blance.

    … police had been summoned to the same address on two previous occasions last year after 999 calls made by 26-year-old Miss Inge.

    Born … 1975, to a mother of Nigerian descent and a Jamaican father who returned to the West Indies when he was still a baby”

    … and awarded a PhD after one year of study (pretended), no degree, no nothing.

  213. MemoryFault

    The tune went from Classical, to Punk Rock, in about three seconds.

    True, Mater.
    Fortunately it works the same in both directions.
    When the turning comes, it will be swift, it will be widespread, and it won’t be pretty.

  214. feelthebern

    Grappa in Leichhardt

    Great place.
    You can dine away an afternoon there.

  215. Thanks, Tom. Rowe actually reasonable again today (apart from the lousy likeness), but Ramirez gets the LOL.

  216. notafan

    For weeks various commenters have been hahaing at Victorian like a pack of Nelsons.

    If Dan’s idiocy affects other states, I say good.

    Anything that forces him to rethink his monumental overreaction like palacechook demanding urgent toilet paper resupply is a positive.

  217. Bruce of Newcastle

    Black holes gobbling up white dwarves

    GM – then there’re the planets.

    Mercury – a white guy
    Venus – a hot white woman
    Mars – old white guy
    Jupiter – old white guy
    Saturn – old white guy
    Uranus – another white guy
    Neptune – old white guy
    Pluto – old white guy

    Expect some wokerati fun when they notice.

  218. Armadillo

    The other minerals comprising cement are similar, with a lot of bound water – which becomes unbound, forming steam upon heating.

    Any suggestions for a fire pit lining? I’ve formed up a 12 square metre slab out the back which I’m going to cement and lay pavers over the top of. In the middle is a 1 X 1.5 metre “trap door” fire pit with built in drainage.

    It’s going to be a fire pit in winter, and a massive esky in summer. When not in use, it’s a small timber deck with a table setting above (fire pit/esky concealed underneath).

    Is the bloody thing going to blow me to smithereens (Beruit style) if I use ordinary cement?

  219. Mother Lode

    Andrews pointing to a ‘super spreader’.

    Typhoid COVID Mary!

    Typical Labor ‘responsibility’. Always like to make clear that they will wear responsibility but casting it so everyone knows they are not to blame. Some scoundrels done did wrong, but the Labor pollie accepts responsibility which, being dissociated from blame, makes it meaningless other than as a symbol. Offering themselves up for the sake of others.

    Who would be so churlish as to despise someone not only innocent but selfless.

    Like KRudd’s ‘apology’. He was not apologising for himself. He was apologising on behalf of others compared to whom he was virtue incarnate.

    There must be some course Labor politicians take. Perhaps Twattery 101.

  220. Makka

    Any suggestions for a fire pit lining?

    Smooth river rocks if you can get them.

  221. Armadillo

    I might need to get someone else to light it the first time?

  222. EvilElvis

    Tick up another lonely non covid death to the covid hysteria.

    My partner’s uncle passed away last night, been crook for awhile but as with age and various ailments it came very fast yesterday. His issues where known and the end expected by his loved ones.

    Not one person in the most important time in his life was allowed to be with him. No comfort. No support. No loved ones allowed to hold his hand, brush his forehead or whisper old stories or words of love and support to him. The most important time to receive support. Taken away by a hysterical, media driven state.

    An absolute disgrace.

    How is it that society is so eager to save the frail and impaired yet have simply forgotten the human decency of comfort and love which provides dignity to those who will pass anyway.

    What a fucking country.

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    Have faith in the youth of America

    Yes, and it’s been posted 3 times now.

    Norwegian babes? 😉

  224. Makka

    An absolute disgrace.

    It most certainly is Elvis. And infuriating. Condolences mate.

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