Tuesday Forum: August 4, 2020

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  1. MemoryFault

    Confirmed! Memoryfault has already spent $20,000 on the websites.

    So you already knew the answer when you asked earlier today.
    Figures.

  2. Fisky

    MemoryFault
    #3539267, posted on August 7, 2020 at 5:46 pm
    Good evening Bundy.

    Interestingly, Low Lowe has actually managed to make a relevant comment without even realising it.
    It will throw me right out if Morrison was to announce the Budget on October 6 and then goes to the GG for a snap election in December.

    Stuff my timetable around no end.
    But a distinct possibility all the same.

    You’ve already spent a fortune on these websites. Now you are speculating they could be of no use at all within a few months. Bloody hell is this campaign ever going to launch or not??

  3. Top Ender

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

  4. I am confused as Pontius Pilate brokering a peace deal with Dennis Rodman between the Polisario Front and the Prefecture of Hokkaido.

    Now, how is THE CASH RESTRICTIONS BILL – not publicly available yet?

  5. feelthebern

    Someone accused me of being in one of those adverts earlier today.

    I’m heart broken you didn’t give me props.
    C*nt.

  6. Some History

    Impeckable gramma.

    Chooks won’t be happy.

  7. MemoryFault

    You’ve already spent a fortune on these websites. Now you are speculating they could be of no use at all within a few months.

    My money, my risk, Fisky.
    It’s called free enterprise.
    But I’m not surprised you Greens voting public servants are unfamiliar with the concept.

  8. Bundyrum

    Fisky, your contribution to stop the drain we are going down is what?

  9. EvilElvis

    even when it led to embarrassment and humiliation.

    There’s your mistake, expecting some other result

    I think vlad meant his embarrassment and humiliation, cohenite. Not you embarrassing and humiliating the chick. 😁

  10. MemoryFault

    Now, how is THE CASH RESTRICTIONS BILL – not publicly available yet?

    I’m sure you know how to check the state of a Bill before Parliament, Dot.

  11. Leigh Lowe

    Well, Faulty, $20,000.00 was the total as at 15th July.
    Have you spent more since?
    As I say, I am not a Big Websites (plural) kind of guy, but some here seem to be intimating that $20 large is a bit, well, “toppy” for a relatively straightforward information based website, with maybe some comments and discussion fora sections, and possibly a donations portal.
    I do hope you are getting value for money.

  12. as soon as the Cash Restrictions Bill and/or the raid on our super become public.

    I’m sure you know how to check the state of a Bill before Parliament, Dot.

    It’s public and it isn’t.

    Okay.

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six, or seven, including one back up. The two names that stick in the mind were “Straight Flush” and “Big Stink.”

  14. MemoryFault

    I do hope you are getting value for money.

    So do I, Low Lowe.

  15. MemoryFault

    It’s public and it isn’t.

    No Dot.
    It’s public end of story.

  16. Infidel Tiger King

    IT, I remember when you were funny …..a distant past.

    You sound like my wife.

  17. Bundyrum

    LL, is finally changing the subject….oh no….it’s still the same.
    LL go to bed you boring bastard…..please.

  18. Fault then one website ought to be public now.

  19. MatrixTransform

    LinkedIn … a hellhole of virtue seeking wankstains

    Chuckles.

    from the outset I mostly only friended CEOs, managing directors etc … anybody at the top of the tree.
    from the outside it looks like I hob-nob with the elite

    probably have a ‘sails’ meeting once a week after counting my pieces of eight

  20. Fisky

    My money, my risk, Fisky.

    The risk to releasing the websites now is zero. You’ve already paid for them. Furthermore, if it turns out that the government really does have a secret Cash Restrictions Bill in the works and goes ahead with it, you’ll be hailed as a brilliant Nostradamus and clicks/donations will flock your way.

    If you hold back and don’t release the websites now, any number of things can happen. First, the government may not introduce the Cash Restrictions Bill after all. Or, the government will introduce the bill but only after already securing crossbench or bipartisan support, meaning your campaign is useless.

    What really worries me is a Senate inquiry has already indicated support for the Cash Restrictions Bill back in February. So you’ve had 6 months to educate the voters about this bill, but did nothing (except spend a fortune), and it will sail through with a bamboozled public being none the wiser.

  21. Bundyrum

    IT, I cannot sound like your wife, I am human.

  22. Top Ender

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

  23. Derp

    Okay, so before the next federal election Libs, Labor, the Nats and the LNP combine to raise the deposit to $10,000

    And you won’t be able to pay ca$h either.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    Kokura (question #3)

    Sorry. 😀

  25. Top Ender

    Half marks to Cats who went for 3. Zulu loses a mark off 10 for incautiously saying 6 or 7 when he should have stuck with 6.

  26. Infidel Tiger King

    $20k on a website that could have been a Facebook page.

    Great investment!

    You are either a complete and utter bullshit artist (you are) or a wood duck.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, didn’t quite get it.
    😀😀😀

  28. Fisky

    setting up websites to start a fightback campaign as soon as the Cash Restrictions Bill and/or the raid on our super become public.

    But the Cash Restrictions Bill is already public.

    A Senate inquiry has backed a controversial bill to ban cash payments of $10,000 and impose two-year jail sentences on people using cash for purchases above that limit, meaning it will soon become law.

    The Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019 passed the House of Representatives last year, but was referred to a Senate inquiry for further debate.

    Memoryvault has promised to release the websites once the bill was public. It is in fact public. So he needs to put up or shut up.

  29. MemoryFault

    Fault then one website ought to be public now.

    Why?

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How many seconds?

    Forty three (H/T “Atomic Salvation.’)

  31. Leigh Lowe

    Bundyrum
    #3539355, posted on August 7, 2020 at 6:30 pm
    IT, I cannot sound like your wife, I am human.

    Gentlepeople, please.
    By all means have a crack at other posters, but please leave the lovely ladies out of it if they have not chosen to post here.

  32. Fisky

    Memoryfault, did you make a submission to the Senate Inquiry on the Cash Restrictions Bill?

  33. MemoryFault

    if it turns out that the government really does have a secret Cash Restrictions Bill

    Nothing secret about it, Fisky.
    Highly unusual, yes. Secret, no.

  34. Knuckle Dragger

    Tiger Woods wearing a Blue Lives Matter scarf/bandana to the goff this morning.

    That’s whittled down his invite list to swanky parties.

  35. Derp

    43 seconds according to the navigator

  36. vlad

    It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    I’ll hazard an educated guess and say 43.

  37. MemoryFault

    Memoryfault, did you make a submission to the Senate Inquiry on the Cash Restrictions Bill?

    No.
    And before you say “gotcha”, I strongly suggest you do a little more digging and find out why.

  38. rickw

    Doh! Could remember if it was 40 seconds or a minute 40!

  39. Top Ender

    Scores at 638pm:

    Zulu 10, 9, 10
    Rickw 10, 5, 5
    Dr Faustus 5
    KD 5
    Derp 10
    Vlad 10

  40. MemoryFault

    Time to put dinner on.
    Excuse me a while.

  41. feelthebern

    This Warriors Manly is a cracker.

  42. feelthebern

    KD, Tiger is a roll model.
    Become a billionaire.
    Don’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks.

  43. calli

    How many seconds?

    250 seconds.

    Enola had to have a chance to get away.

  44. feelthebern

    Warriors Manly game.

  45. Fisky

    Nothing secret about it, Fisky.
    Highly unusual, yes. Secret, no.

    Given that the Senate inquiry asked for public submissions on the Cash Restrictions Bill, and that these submissions are now closed, I think we can deduce that the bill is indeed public.

    So you need to release your website at once. Even the Laroucheite Citizen’s Party (formerly the Citizen’s Electoral Council of which you were a founder) has already established a campaigning page on the Cash Restrictions Bill.

  46. calli

    I’m counting by “Mississippis”, mind. Very accurate.

    In other words, dunno.

  47. feelthebern

    Douglas Murray gives it to Sturgeon.
    When did the gays become the greatest thinkers in Western society?

  48. Top Ender

    Calli gets 3 as an encouragement award

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    43

    Q4.

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

  49. Fisky

    Memoryfault, did you make a submission to the Senate Inquiry on the Cash Restrictions Bill?

    No.

    Really. So you declined the opportunity to lobby the Senate (for free!), the body which will decide whether or not to pass this bill, let alone to inform the public why it is a bad law. However, you have spent 7 months and $20,000 on a couple of websites. That doesn’t seem to be a very wise allocation of resources.

  50. Struth

    Still here Frank?
    Why of course you are.

    Please, no one else read this, it’s between Frank and myself.

    I see you don’t drink much.

    People that don’t drink end up strapping explosives to themselves to get to a place where they can play with virgins.
    Go on, have a beer.
    Go down the pub, you’re wound up, you’re even starting to “embellish” like Notaclue.
    You really have deteriorated in the last few days.
    Same old Material, rehashed again and again, it’s quite embarrassing, like the school bully who’s just looked behind him to find his mates aren’t there to back him up.
    Maybe when you are on the piss, you might actually be funny.
    Give it a whirl.

    “activate slapped fish, activate slapped fish, they’re onto us”
    After the twentieth time of that teenage “calling your mates in for back up” routine it really is quite embarrassing.
    Trying to fake isn’t working.
    You’re tired, and you’re just not funny anymore.
    With your superior intellect you should realise your shallow crap wears really thin in these days of tyranny.
    I really feel a “looser” LL , a Loose Leigh Lowe, might make a funny Frank.

    Go a straight beer.
    No shandies ……………..

  51. rickw

    Corporal John Long a POW and was killed by the blast.

  52. Bundyrum

    Your effort Fisky is precisely what?
    Banging other people’s efforts, whether bullshit or not has led this once beautiful country into the shithole we are all in (that includes you).
    Maybe you & others should start thinking about being the first the croc eats….

  53. MatrixTransform

    and coffee!

    ffs what is wrong with you people?
    plungers? pods?
    wtf is a pod?

    stovetop espresso with nothing but but water and ground beans and some heat
    take it off the heat immediately when the gurgle starts (stops it being bitter)

    my son was a Barrister for years

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

    Prisoner of War, killed in the attack.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Become a billionaire.
    Don’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks.’

    Exactly. I have said before he ignored my suggestion of how to react at this presser after being caught playing an away game or two, to wit:

    ‘Yes. Yes I spent the last fifteen years shagging lingerie models two at a time my scouts picked up for me. Because I’m a billionaire and can do whatever the fuck I want, and none of it’s your business. Hands up all the billionaires here. No? Just me then? Alllllrighty. Any questions about how I’m a billionaire? Yes. Yes it is very cool.’

    ‘Now excuse me while I get into my chopper. If everyone just stays here for a bit the chopper’s loaded with buckets of piss I can tip on you from 100 feet. Yes. Yes, because I’m a billionaire. This interview is over.’

  56. rickw

    Hmmm, I googled John Long and at least once source says he was a POW in Hiroshima?

  57. Bundyrum

    Shiny, as soon as i can stuff em down your stupid mouth.

  58. feelthebern

    Tiger, how do you sleep at night ?
    On a big pile of money, with lots of beautiful ladies.
    Just askin’.

    h/t Back when the Simpsons was funny.

  59. Makka

    stovetop espresso

    There is no coffee like Turkish coffee. Highly addictive.

  60. Top Ender

    Dunno about that Rick, but I got that one from the Nagasaki Museum.

  61. JC

    Ted

    Stop it with the transparent phony anger. It doesn’t work on me or anyone else here. The only contribution you’ve made so far to this site is to get involved in stoushes that have nothing to do with you and to spew out sanctimonious nonsense. The only functional part of your brain that appears to work is your brain stem – enough to go pick bananas. Now go pick bananas.

  62. feelthebern

    I had the old Nespresso machine.
    Twice.
    I found it burnt the coffee a little.
    I’ve got the newer circular Nespresso machine now.
    That’s the best machine I’ve had.
    A good bit of kit.

  63. vlad

    I won’t weep too many tears over the death of John Long.

    American servicemen killed in Hiroshima: approximately 1.

    Japanese civilians killed in Hiroshima: approximately 140,000.

  64. feelthebern

    Japanese civilians killed in Hiroshima: approximately 140,000.

    Didn’t they get the leaflets for the previous couple of days ?

  65. Top Ender

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    43

    Q4.

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

    He was a POW imprisoned nearby, who died in the blast.

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

  66. JC

    Bern

    I don’t mind Nespresso, but you really need to choose the pods (?) that you like. We also have a Jura, which is pretty decent too. I go from one to the other and in the morning I go buy a coffee.

  67. Snoopy

    Will the government issue a Covid-19 campaign medal to qualifying ADF members? It would have to be a lock, no?

  68. feelthebern

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Big Black Cocks.
    It was to be a BBC fight-back.

  69. rickw

    Japanese civilians killed in Hiroshima: approximately 140,000.

    Didn’t they get the leaflets for the previous couple of days ?

    Yeah, and almost a decade of roping and pillaging to contemplate what they were doing.

  70. Top Ender

    feelthebern, for you:

    On 8-9 August, American aircraft dropped new leaflets across Japan. They read:

    We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2,000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate. We have just begun to use this weapon against your homeland. If you still have any doubts, make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city.

    Allied radio stations transmitted a similar message to Japan every 15 minutes. By 9 August, more than five million leaflets had been dropped. Further leaflets gave warning of further bombing, even to the extent of naming the cities to be targeted:

    Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America’s humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives.

    America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately.

    Leaflets “in Japanese with the full text of the government’s conditional surrender offer of August 10, along with Byrnes’ response” were dropped by B-29 on 14 August. Some of them even ended up in the Imperial Palace gardens in Tokyo. They carried more than just the consequence of ignoring them – the military propaganda had been so effective almost all of the military did not know of any thoughts of surrender. But the leaflets and broadcasts had little effect. For example, there was no mass revolution, or even the suggestions of civilian unrest. Even after the dropping of the first A-weapon, as Kase put it:

    the authorities tried to drown out the powerful enemy broadcasts…but these broadcasts in excellent Japanese exercised a great influence on the minds of the people. When it became no longer possible to suppress the truth, the Army attempted to minimize the destructive power of the bomb.

  71. Tintarella di Luna

    We’re both catholics and neither of us ever married.

    God luck vlad, hope it goes well — after all never is a long long time, and, even better, you won’t die wondering

  72. rickw

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Suicide vests / self detonated explosive devices.

  73. vlad

    And apparently Daniel Hitler-Andrews gave a press conference where he stood up and answered any and all questions, straight out of The West Wing, only he’s no Alan Alda.

    Someone threw a tanty – years ago – when I suggested that leftard ALPists treated The West Wing as a playbook. Whoever it was – as children will – has long forgotten the exchange. But I was right then as I am now.

  74. feelthebern

    I find the Colombian coffees the only real ones I like.
    I have a plunger & the Hawaiian stuff ready to roll if I feel like it.
    But my go to shop have an army of Thai’s who pump out the good stuff.
    The owner, a Chinese bloke, is hopeless.

  75. A stolen valour idiot with an unearnt COVID-19 medal would be the best thing to come out of this complete and utter dog fuck.

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    John Long will get more thought from me than 140,000 suicide machines.

    As the man said, reap the whirlwind.

    Reap it.

  77. Fisky

    Your effort Fisky is precisely what?
    Banging other people’s efforts, whether bullshit or not has led this once beautiful country into the shithole we are all in (that includes you).
    Maybe you & others should start thinking about being the first the croc eats….

    No, I think you are missing the point, Bundy. This is another of MF’s transparent scams.

  78. Infidel Tiger King
    #3539126, posted on August 7, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    7h
    COVID-19 is the Boomers’ last, selfish act.
    “In order to scare society into responsible behaviour, the medical and scientific professions have entered a tacit pact with the political leadership to maximise fear.”
    I’m prepared to take my chances, ITK.

  79. feelthebern

    top ender, I knew that.
    I think your post was really for Vlad.

  80. Bundyrum

    Shiny, I please beg your forgiveness, I apologise for having the right to free speech & hope that I can gain your approval from this time onwards.
    I want mass immigration of lots of useless arrogant bastards, I need to be forgiving for wanting my taxes to pay for the people who built this country.
    Either that or you can go fuck yourself you sack of shit….now just fuck off to NY….it needs you.

  81. I can’t believe the gall of Fault.

    Oh yes it’s public.

    Why would the website be live?

    Toodle-pip, time to put another lobster in the pot.

  82. Cohenite:

    It’s already at the printers; the title: Shiny arses I have known. You get a paragraph and there are some surprises.

    Thanks. You’ve brought a lot of LOLs into this old farts life.

  83. A boomer is someone who thinks Carl Benjamin is a commie, because of 1970s university Marxists.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’d suspect the Japanese Army would use chemical weapons in event of Downfall.
    Possibly even biological.
    Gloves would be off.

  85. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Suicide divers/torpedoes/submarines/aircraft – they actually had some ten thousand Kamikaze aircraft, with fuel that had been hoarded. Point that’s usually overlooked – they didn’t have to repel any invasion – just inflict sufficient casualties, and hope the Americans would think twice about further invasions.

  86. feelthebern

    Suicide divers/torpedoes/submarines/aircraft

    Yes.
    But don’t forget the BBC’s.

  87. JC

    I find the Colombian coffees the only real ones I like.
    I have a plunger & the Hawaiian stuff ready to roll if I feel like it.
    But my go to shop have an army of Thai’s who pump out the good stuff.
    The owner, a Chinese bloke, is hopeless.

    We have all the gadgets. Bialetti peculators make decent coffee, but it’s a really strong brew and if you add milk, it’s a serious heavy duty cup of coffee and not recommended for those with an arrhythmia. 🙂

    Although I can’t be bothered with it, because it takes a long time, the American drip system is the best of them all.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3539360, posted on August 7, 2020 at 6:32 pm

    $20k on a website that could have been a Facebook page.

    Great investment!

    You are either a complete and utter bullshit artist (you are) or a wood duck.

    I prefer to think that Faulty is not being dishonest but, as you say, that might lead to the conclusion that he is a canard en bois.
    I do hope someone hasn’t taken advantage of Faulty.
    I really do.

    Speaking of canard, the Burgundy pinot noir went down a treat with the duck breast and cherry sauce.

  89. feelthebern

    This Manly Warriors game is the game of the season.
    Almost zero drop ball in pissing rain.

  90. incoherent rambler

    Japanese civilians killed in Hiroshima: approximately 140,000.

    Philippine civilians murdered by the Japanese approximately 100,000.

  91. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    how lame are the chinese

  92. feelthebern

    My best coffee is the Hawaiian in the plunger.
    Then use the Nespresso milker to kind of turn it into a cap.
    Kind of.

  93. Top Ender

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    43

    Q4.

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

    He was a POW imprisoned nearby, who died in the blast.

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Aircraft; submarines, speedboats, and divers. Militia personnel were also prepared to die with “satchel charges” by hurling themselves under enemy vehicles, for example, and detonating their explosive charge. They also would have used what they had developed in chemical, biological and nuclear devices – and these to get to the target would likely have involved suicide troops.

    Q6. Very difficult so double points. In WWII, the USA’s Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA, formed a group known as “Alsos”, to track and if necessary destroy any components of a German nuclear program. It was under the command of General Leslie Groves, who would later head up the Manhattan Project. What was ironic about the names?

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    John Long will get more thought from me than 140,000 suicide machines.

    As the man said, reap the whirlwind.

    Reap it.

    The Japanese went to war in 1941 with the principal aim of seizing the oilfields of the Netherlands East Indies – now Indonesia. They were convinced that their superior “Yamoto” spirit would prevail against the cowardly and effete Westerners……

  95. JC

    Nurse Bettty is still trying to get my attention. I had to laugh when he put up his pic as I couldn’t make out if it’s human or a Caribbean turtle. The imbecile looks a like a freaking turtle.

    Here.

    Betty, put it up again so people can judge.

  96. Leigh Lowe

    Exactly. I have said before he ignored my suggestion of how to react at this presser after being caught playing an away game or two, to wit:

    ‘Yes. Yes I spent the last fifteen years shagging lingerie models two at a time my scouts picked up for me. Because I’m a billionaire and can do whatever the fuck I want, and none of it’s your business. Hands up all the billionaires here. No? Just me then? Alllllrighty. Any questions about how I’m a billionaire? Yes. Yes it is very cool.’

    Ha, ha.
    I watched a Netflix special the other night about Evel Kneivel.
    At his peak, that was pretty much how he rolled.
    Mrs Kneivel was pissed off, but he just kept at it.
    Didn’t give a fat rat’s clacker.

  97. Armadillo

    I’m late to the game. I would have got all those answers correct.

    Toppy, give me 50 points.

  98. Top Ender

    Ok, Armadillo, 50 points are yours.

    You lose 55 for the avatar.

  99. vlad

    What was ironic about the names?

    It was Greek for “Groves”.

  100. JC

    Shiny, I please beg your forgiveness, I apologise for having the right to free speech & hope that I can gain your approval from this time onwards.

    No apology can possibly make up for only having a functional brain stem

    I want mass immigration of lots of useless arrogant bastards, I need to be forgiving for wanting my taxes to pay for the people who built this country.

    Okay.

    Either that or you can go fuck yourself you sack of shit….now just fuck off to NY….it needs you.

    Ted, go pick bananas.

  101. Armadillo

    You lose 55 for the avatar.

    Minus 5 then. I can still win it from here.

  102. calli

    Calli gets 3 as an encouragement award

    Ahahah! Next will be a smiley stamp.

    Hoping to get up to Darwin next year. The Beloved is Walter Mitty-ing and booking a great road trip.

    Knowing how our last one turned out, we’ll be stranded in Tennant Creek and beset by hungry crocs and mutant goannas.

  103. Leigh Lowe

    I want mass immigration of lots of useless arrogant bastards, I need to be forgiving for wanting my taxes to pay for the people who built this country.

    I ran that through Google translate.
    It doesn’t know either.

  104. Top Ender

    Come and have a few beers Calli.

    Scores:

    Zulu 10, 9, 10, 10, 10
    Rickw 10, 5, 5, 5, 10, 5,
    Dr Faustus 5
    KD 5
    Derp 10
    Vlad 10, 5, 10
    Calli 3
    Legalise Sedition 10
    Bruce 10

  105. Leigh Lowe

    Knowing how our last one turned out, we’ll be stranded in Tennant Creek and beset by hungry crocs and mutant goannas.

    If you see a Mini Moke coming, take cover.

  106. Bruce of Newcastle

    Operation Alsos

    Alsos is Greek for Grove. I read it in 5 Days in August I think, but when I tried to search the ebook my Kindle found a million “also”s.

  107. feelthebern

    I want mass immigration of lots of useless arrogant bastards, I need to be forgiving for wanting my taxes to pay for the people who built this country.

    Google translate: You like asian hookers.

  108. JC

    Ha, ha.
    I watched a Netflix special the other night about Evel Kneivel.
    At his peak, that was pretty much how he rolled.
    Mrs Kneivel was pissed off, but he just kept at it.
    Didn’t give a fat rat’s clacker.

    Remember when he was that so-called daring, dare-dveil jump across the Grand Canyon in a rocket contraption. People paid decent money to see the fucker die. As soon as he took off, he pulled the parachute. He cheated people decent money to see him kill himself. I’ve never forgiven since then and still recall the heist.

  109. Zyconoclast

    Japanese civilians killed in Hiroshima: approximately 140,000.

    Didn’t they get the leaflets for the previous couple of days ?

    To save time and money, the leaflets were dropped at the same time as the bomb.

  110. egg_

    If you see a Mini Moke coming, take cover.

    Clown posse on the loose?

  111. Tintarella di Luna

    Dear Roger your article in Quadrant made my heart ache for your Mum and for your seeing her decline so rapidly under the draconian imposition of a feckless Premier’s will. May she rest in peace. Sincere condolences.

  112. Taxes don’t build countries.

    The Magna Carta exists because the Angevins and Plantagenants nearly destroyed their dynasty and the English nation to fight the French.

  113. Top Ender

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    43

    Q4.

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

    He was a POW imprisoned nearby, who died in the blast.

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Aircraft; submarines, speedboats, and divers. Militia personnel were also prepared to die with “satchel charges” by hurling themselves under enemy vehicles, for example, and detonating their explosive charge. They also would have used what they had developed in chemical, biological and nuclear devices – and these to get to the target would likely have involved suicide troops.

    Q6. Very difficult so double points. In WWII, the USA’s Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA, formed a group known as “Alsos”, to track and if necessary destroy any components of a German nuclear program. It was under the command of General Leslie Groves, who would later head up the Manhattan Project. What was ironic about the names?

    Groves translates into Greek as “alsos”.

    Q7. Most Allied deaths were from accident than from combat. To look at United States Army Air Force losses is instructive. For every one plane lost to enemy action, X more were lost to misadventure. These accidents were inevitable given the intensity of operations and the equipment of the time. Aircraft of the 1940s were simply not as safe as those of the time this book was written more than 70 years later. They did not have Global Positioning System navigation, for example, and getting lost was always a possibility. Bomber navigators worked their position through dead reckoning; star plotting through astrodomes when flying at night, and some crude electronics. Mechanical and electronic systems did not have triple redundancies as they do today. Crew training was measured in weeks rather than years. Aircrews were also pushing their airframes and engines to the limits in order to maximize effect.

    What is X in this case?

  114. feelthebern

    areff, I couldn’t bring myself to read your article tonight.
    I will do in the morning.

  115. Great, Top Ender!

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    I was up until 0400 reading it.
    Bastard.

  116. Leigh Lowe

    Remember when he was that so-called daring, dare-dveil jump across the Grand Canyon in a rocket contraption. People paid decent money to see the fucker die. As soon as he took off, he pulled the parachute. He cheated people decent money to see him kill himself. I’ve never forgiven since then and still recall the heist.

    I dunno.
    I go for the fuck-up on that one, rather than the conspiracy.
    I watched the footage the other night and it looked to me like the chute deployed while the rocket motor was still firing.
    I doubt anyone would do that deliberately.
    .
    PS I think it was Snake River (?) Canyon not the Grand Canyon.

  117. cohenite

    I was just moved to tears reading this article from areff to Mrs C.

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2020/08/covid-19s-collateral-damage/

    This is not the acceptable risk doctrine being perverted but a concerted effort to gain control by the elitists/commies. The nice old lady in the story is just collateral damage to those monsters. The hunchback is in his element with the likes of de blasio and the rest of the filth. If a normal person did what cuomo did they’d tear their eyeballs out.

  118. Nick

    I prefer to think that Faulty is not being dishonest but, as you say, that might lead to the conclusion that he is a canard en bois.
    I do hope someone hasn’t taken advantage of Faulty.
    I really do.

    Imagine all the real and not internet pal, poosay you could get for 20 G

  119. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3539484, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    areff, I couldn’t bring myself to read your article tonight.
    I will do in the morning.

    Me too.
    I suspect that writing about it has helped somewhat.

  120. JC

    Nurse Betty

    Put up the pic again.

  121. Gab

    Q7. three

    (I’m happy with a participation certificate, TE)

  122. Leigh Lowe

    Imagine all the real and not internet pal, poosay you could get for 20 G

    There are times I think some here imagine very little else.

  123. JC

    Areff

    What was Billie short for?

  124. Imagine all the real and not internet pal, poosay you could get for 20 G

    Poosay?

    I want clout. The kids floss about CLOUT these days.

    You don’t read an article these days about social media without hearing about CLOUT.

    Here are some clouts.

  125. “Send in, the clouts…”

    Anyway, a young man with CLOUT…now “REKT”


    Open up, Eff Bee Eye!

  126. Bruce of Newcastle

    What is X in this case?

    Dunno. But since I was interested in a quick search I found this fascinating document:

    Army Air Forces Statistical Digest, World War II, December 1945 (PDF)

    It has 218 Tables of data…

  127. Leigh Lowe

    Sedation.
    I suspect they are not talking about small flat-head nails.

  128. rickw

    Aircrews were also pushing their airframes and engines to the limits in order to maximize effect.

    They weren’t completely crazy either, at one stage half the P-47 fleet in Europe was grounded over crankshaft bearing issues. Turns out one of the engine plants wasn’t cleaning the sand of the crank case castings that well.

  129. Top Ender

    Meal-break.

    Answers will be taken up to the next post.

  130. Nick

    A nice article areff. May your mum Rest In Peace.

  131. calli

    I read your article, areff. Part of our great tragedy made worse by the types who govern us.

    Sorrow, anger, disgust, dismay. All are legitimate and honourable reactions to what has happened.

    Be comforted in your loss, allow the happy memories to take you by the throat and overwhelm you. It’s what grieving is all about.

  132. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘stranded in Tennant Creek’

    Pfft. You don’t get stranded in Tennant Creek, calli. You get marooned. Abandoned.

    Mick Taylored. Falconioed. Or electrocuted.

    And yes, watch for the mini Moke which I always drive everywhere I go. It’ll be outside my tent near Mary Ann Dam on the north end of town.

    You’ll know the tent. There’s a sign out front that says ‘Military Analyst from Canberra’ in lipstick.

  133. notafan

    Read and shared further afield Roger.

    It’s a bitter pill to swallow.

  134. MatrixTransform

    the American drip system is the best of them all

    heathen

  135. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Imagine all the real and not internet pal, poosay you could get for 20 G’

    I suspect that’s the nefarious purpose of TBW.

    That, and donations to ‘the cause’.

  136. feelthebern

    The refs have stolen this game from the Warriors.

  137. If anyone is paying let’s hope they get the real thing and don’t SIMP for an Only Fans account.

  138. K2

    Evel’s son Robbie did a Grand Canyon jump. 70m of airborne.

  139. DrBeauGan

    Thanks for sharing Roger, sorry to hear. No doubt in my mind though that she’s gone to a place Dan Andrews will never be able to visit.

    That was a comment on Aref’s article in quadrant. Couldn’t agree more.

  140. Nick

    That, and donations to ‘the cause’.

    Something along those lines, yes.
    ‘70 plus man has 3 political candidates to support. Please help’

  141. JC

    MatrixTransform
    #3539513, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    the American drip system is the best of them all

    heathen

    Lol
    Dude, try it. It’s really good, but I think it’s more of a morning coffee.

  142. You Italians…LOL

    Go paelo and you eat steak for breakfast.

    Dripolator is the best. Looks the best too.

  143. rickw

    The hunchback is in his element with the likes of de blasio and the rest of the filth.

    Emergency powers and measures basically say that individuals and families can’t make situation specific decisions that are better these moron’s blanket decisions. Ludicrous.

    Plenty of elderly I think would have preferred to stick with the simple joys of their day to day life, and risked death from COVID rather than be put into effectively solitary confinement in a free country only to die anyway.

  144. Knuckle Dragger

    Coffee snobs. The worst people.

    43 Bean or International Roast. Three heaped teaspoons and two of sugar, along with 10ml of potentially dodgy milk. Fill Styrofoam cup to brim with still-boiling water.

    Rest cup on slight tilt of roof of somebody else car out the back of work building. Light durrie. Bitch about upper management to colleague/s.

    Coffee pods. Jeez. Excuse me, Your Majesties.

  145. Boambee John

    Top Ender

    For every one plane lost to enemy action, X more were lost to misadventure.

    Accidents at one training base in Florida (Pensacola??) were so frequent that the trainees coined the slogan “One a day in Tampa Bay).

  146. feelthebern

    Melbourne is a wannabe city.
    Wannabe woke.
    Wannabe NY.
    Wannabe statist murder capital of Oz.

  147. calli

    Coffee making is the weirdest of food fetishes. Why would that be?

    I mentioned the way the industry professionals did the tasting up thread.

    Youse guys are such manbuns. I bet you want little love hearts dribbled across your cremas too.

  148. JC

    K2
    #3539518, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    Evel’s son Robbie did a Grand Canyon jump. 70m of airborne.

    His dad’s was a huge let down for the audience. I think it was in the 70’s or early 80’s. The fucker had built up a huge promotion world wide on the jump and tons of decent Americans had paid really good money to watch him die. There must be old movies on the internet so watch it because as soon as he takes off the fucker pulled the chord. It was a global let down. I’m still pissed off as it was a fraud.

  149. feelthebern

    Warriors just won the game of the year, even though there were some howlers against them.
    Manly unlikely to hit the hot Warriors.
    First time the Warriors have been hot for about 2 years.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3539514, posted on August 7, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    ‘Imagine all the real and not internet pal, poosay you could get for 20 G’

    I suspect that’s the nefarious purpose of TBW.

    That, and donations to ‘the cause’.

    I just looked up “nefarious”.
    I am shocked!

  151. Eyrie

    Dunno about X but I read the US lost about 15,000 airmen in training in WW2. Something like 10 a day.

  152. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Youse guys are such manbuns. I bet you want little love hearts dribbled across your cremas too.’

    I love you.

  153. Eyrie

    Instant coffee – barbarous!

  154. Nick

    The Souths game has just paid tribute to the indigenous and Lebanese Lezzos can’t be far off.

  155. Knuckle Dragger

    Hang on, wait.

    I thought ‘cremas’ meant something else.

    Dripolaters. FMD.

  156. mh

    South Sydney vs Broncos

    Welcome to Country, followed by silence for victims of Beirut explosion.

  157. Leigh Lowe

    Youse guys are such manbuns. I bet you want little love hearts dribbled across your cremas too.

    Yes.
    But I refuse to make eye contact with the barrister as he does it.

  158. mh

    Hey, why didn’t Souths pay tribute to the victims of Hiroshima?

  159. feelthebern

    But I refuse to make eye contact with the barrister as he does it.

    Ol’ glory hole Leigh.

  160. JC

    Here’s the vid. It wasn’t the Grand Canyon. It was Snake River Canyon. The fuck I know where that is. Look how quickly the old fraud pulls the parachute. He was always going to do that because he wasn’t going to land on the ground as the hard impact could kill him.

  161. Youse guys are such manbuns. I bet you want little love hearts dribbled across your cremas too.

    Really, Princess.

    Try this.

    1 shot espresso
    2 shots whisky
    2 shots rum

    It’s called a Charles Bronson

  162. feelthebern

    Kimberly Guilfoyle tested positive to COVID19.
    Was asymptomatic.
    Took the HCQ straight away.
    Remained asymptomatic.
    Now no-longer positive.
    Don Jr didn’t test positive for it even though he quarantined with her.
    We have been sold the biggest lemon re COVID19.

  163. notafan

    It’s infuriating because it has dragged on for so long.

    We endured the first few weeks got told back to 50 at church etc from Monday then the carpet was yanked, a few days later then we were rolled up in it and then a week or after that thrown on the nature strips for collection.

    Bad enough for those who can work around to create some semblance of normalcy.

    But if you are in a nursing home, even one that extracarie Dan hasn’t infested with the bug, it’s been confined to your room for months.

    Months when the initial projections of thousands and thousands needing to be in ICU had utterly failed to materialise and people are being given financial inducements to get sick.

    Dan must have his numbers for his daily grandstanding session.

  164. feelthebern

    Don Jr is an idiot.
    He dumped his lefty bird for KG.
    Ok.
    But KG is like a moth attracted to the light.
    In Jan 2025 when the Donald wraps up term 2, she’ll dump Don Jr immediately.

  165. K2

    Knievel had to lease the land around the Snake River Canyon (Idaho) jump site from a local farmer. The gubmint wouldn’t let him attempt any stunts on their land etc.

  166. JC

    Kimberly Guilfoyle tested positive to COVID19.
    Was asymptomatic.
    Took the HCQ straight away.
    Remained asymptomatic.
    Now no-longer positive.
    Don Jr didn’t test positive for it even though he quarantined with her.
    We have been sold the biggest lemon re COVID19.

    You think she lied about having it?

  167. JC

    Knievel had to lease the land around the Snake River Canyon (Idaho) jump site from a local farmer. The gubmint wouldn’t let him attempt any stunts on their land etc.

    Let’s get really technical here. Who owns the airspace above the river? 🙂

  168. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘But KG is like a moth attracted to the light.’

    And has a head to match. Jesus. She’ll have melted by 2025 anyway.

    The classic Butterface.

  169. Oh no, 11 people died today.

    How many people die in Victoria from the flu normally on any day during the winter months?

    About 150 people per week died from influenza and pneumonia in NSW, over 10 years ago, during this time of year.

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdi3401b.htm

    Sold a pup?

    We paid 25k for a stuffed toy.

  170. rickw

    Life is hard out of mummy and daddy’s basement!

  171. Top Ender

    Time’s up!

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    43

    Q4.

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

    He was a POW imprisoned nearby, who died in the blast.

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Aircraft; submarines, speedboats, and divers. Militia personnel were also prepared to die with “satchel charges” by hurling themselves under enemy vehicles, for example, and detonating their explosive charge. They also would have used what they had developed in chemical, biological and nuclear devices – and these to get to the target would likely have involved suicide troops.

    Q6. Very difficult so double points. In WWII, the USA’s Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA, formed a group known as “Alsos”, to track and if necessary destroy any components of a German nuclear program. It was under the command of General Leslie Groves, who would later head up the Manhattan Project. What was ironic about the names?

    Groves translates into Greek as “alsos”.

    Q7. Most Allied deaths were from accident than from combat. To look at United States Army Air Force losses is instructive. For every one plane lost to enemy action, X more were lost to misadventure. These accidents were inevitable given the intensity of operations and the equipment of the time. Aircraft of the 1940s were simply not as safe as those of the time this book was written more than 70 years later. They did not have Global Positioning System navigation, for example, and getting lost was always a possibility. Bomber navigators worked their position through dead reckoning; star plotting through astrodomes when flying at night, and some crude electronics. Mechanical and electronic systems did not have triple redundancies as they do today. Crew training was measured in weeks rather than years. Aircrews were also pushing their airframes and engines to the limits in order to maximize effect.

    What is X in this case?

    6

    Q8. The USSR factor is often thought of as significant in the A-Bomb debates. How many aircraft carriers were the Russkis trying to develop for the war?

  172. feelthebern

    You think she lied about having it?

    Nah there’s a protocol around the Donald bubble.
    Subject to FOI, so hard to see it being a porky pie.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Q8. The USSR factor is often thought of as significant in the A-Bomb debates. How many aircraft carriers were the Russkis trying to develop for the war?

    May have been trying to develop two, and one seaplane carrier, but none were ever actually operational.

  174. feelthebern

    KG only likes the gold plated cock.

  175. Leigh Lowe

    JC.
    It was 1974.
    Knievel was a showman (the flared white suit with red and blue stars down both legs and a lightning bolt on the back is a dead giveaway).
    It is what showmen do.
    Time to forgive.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Q8. The USSR factor is often thought of as significant in the A-Bomb debates. How many aircraft carriers were the Russkis trying to develop for the war?

    Two, or maybe three if you add Project 71 and 72 together.

  177. MemoryFault

    Thank you for sharing, Areff.
    One can only hope and pray that those responsible are held to account some way, eventually.
    If not in this lifetime, then surely the next.

  178. feelthebern

    JC never forgives.
    It’s the Wall Street way.

  179. rickw

    This guy does amazing work, on a pretty basic chinesium lathe:

  180. feelthebern

    Phrasing rickw, phrasing.

  181. Geriatric Mayfly

    Atomic War Quiz!
    A bit of a latecomer to this, but Dolly might give someone a Farren-Price watch if they come close.

    How many grams of fissionable material were stacked in the bombs, and how much of that actually actually converted to the energy which did the damage?

  182. JC

    JC.
    It was 1974.
    Knievel was a showman (the flared white suit with red and blue stars down both legs and a lightning bolt on the back is a dead giveaway).
    It is what showmen do.
    Time to forgive.

    Leigh, I’m sorry but I can’t as it left a huge scar. We were kids then – in year 10 or so and it was the biggest story going around. We were so primed to see the fucker really die on tv live or very close to live and it turned out to be bullshit.

  183. feelthebern

    I saw a stat today.
    Per minute played in the NRL, since the start of 2019, Pangai Jr is the most penalised forward in the NRL.
    Broncos should have moved him on & kept Fafita.

  184. Top Ender

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    43

    Q4.

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

    He was a POW imprisoned nearby, who died in the blast.

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Aircraft; submarines, speedboats, and divers. Militia personnel were also prepared to die with “satchel charges” by hurling themselves under enemy vehicles, for example, and detonating their explosive charge. They also would have used what they had developed in chemical, biological and nuclear devices – and these to get to the target would likely have involved suicide troops.

    Q6. Very difficult so double points. In WWII, the USA’s Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA, formed a group known as “Alsos”, to track and if necessary destroy any components of a German nuclear program. It was under the command of General Leslie Groves, who would later head up the Manhattan Project. What was ironic about the names?

    Groves translates into Greek as “alsos”.

    Q7. Most Allied deaths were from accident than from combat. To look at United States Army Air Force losses is instructive. For every one plane lost to enemy action, X more were lost to misadventure. These accidents were inevitable given the intensity of operations and the equipment of the time. Aircraft of the 1940s were simply not as safe as those of the time this book was written more than 70 years later. They did not have Global Positioning System navigation, for example, and getting lost was always a possibility. Bomber navigators worked their position through dead reckoning; star plotting through astrodomes when flying at night, and some crude electronics. Mechanical and electronic systems did not have triple redundancies as they do today. Crew training was measured in weeks rather than years. Aircrews were also pushing their airframes and engines to the limits in order to maximize effect.

    What is X in this case?

    6

    Q8. The USSR factor is often thought of as significant in the A-Bomb debates. How many aircraft carriers were the Russkis trying to develop for the war?

    Three. Soviet Russia is actually thought by some to have been completing the carrier Krasnaya Znamya in 1945, a 60 aircraft ship of 22,000 tons. Laid down in Leningrad in 1939, she is said to have been completed by 1945. A second hull named Voroshilov may have been begun, and a small seaplane carrier named Stalin may have also existed. None of these were known to be anywhere near operational ¬– it is worth noting that mere completion of the ships was worthless unless naval air units were able to be embarked and used. The skillsets necessary, such as taking off and landing on a carrier, take years for a navy to develop. The Russian Navy was composed of several battleships; cruisers, and a host of smaller vessels such as destroyers, and around 100 submarines, many of the latter small and their abilities doubtful.

    Q9. The intelligence officer of the US Fifth Air Force declared on 21 July, 1945, that “the entire population of Japan is a proper military target,” and he added emphatically, “There are no __________ in Japan.”

  185. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Legalise Sedition at 8:07 pm:

    ” [earlier, from calli] Youse guys are such manbuns. I bet you want little love hearts dribbled across your cremas too.

    Really, Princess.

    Try this.

    1 shot espresso
    2 shots whisky
    2 shots rum

    It’s called a Charles Bronson

    prompted calli at 8:08 pm:

    “Death Wish?”

    No, you will need to have about five sequels of Dot’s Charles Bronson to attain Death Wish glory.

  186. Leigh Lowe

    Legalise Sedition

    #3539558, posted on August 7, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    Oh no, 11 people died today.

    I had a dozen in the sweep.
    I demand a recount.

  187. feelthebern

    Another stat.
    Per minute played.
    Biggest improver, based on penalties, tackles, missed tackles, meters gained, post contact meters gained, errors, Payne Hass is the biggest improver in 2020 over 2019 stats in the NRL.

  188. Old Lefty

    On the Covid front, the ACT, I gather, hasn’t been as bad as Victoria. But its level 3.1 restrictions, recently announced, still enforce the four square metre rule on enemies of the revolution such as churches, while allowing brothels and escort services to reopen. Can anyone explain (without too much graphic detail, please) how it is possible to run a socially distanced brothel?

  189. Gab

    oops …spellin’

    Civilians

  190. feelthebern

    Looks like turning RoPer for Haas has worked.
    No booze, no drugs etc.
    SBW is a close confidante of Haas.
    Once the Brisbane contract is done, Payne Haas will move to the Roosters on a long term deal.

  191. Top Ender

    How surprising!

    North Richmond residents livid drug users are breaking social distancing rules and curfews

    Residents surrounding the North Richmond supervised injecting room are furious that drug users are ignoring the lockdown rules and refusing to wear masks, while the centre does not have to abide by the city’s 8pm curfew.

    The supervised injecting room in North Richmond remains open past Melbourne’s 8pm curfew as drug users flock to the area while the city is under strict lockdown.

    Furious residents said drug users were injecting in the streets at all hours and were failing to wear masks or abide by social distancing measures.

    The centre has remained open until 9pm on weekdays.

    Mental Health Minister Martin Foley defended the injecting room’s hours and said it would “continue to save lives and ensure critical resources in the public health system needed to fight coronavirus are not diverted by drug overdoses”.

    He also said leaving home for medical assistance under Stage 4 restrictions is allowed.

    North Richmond resident Sharon, 55, said many users were flouting the restrictions.

    “They should be wearing masks and they shouldn’t be spitting and vomiting in the streets, they should be respecting social distancing,” Sharon, who did not want to give her surname, said.

    “You go down there to the centre at any time and there will be groups huddled around, they’re not abiding by the rules. There was one guy shooting up near a tree out the front of my house.”

    Syringes have also been left discarded in the streets.

    Dora Tsipouras, 53, who lives in Richmond, said her 75-year-old mother resided in one of the public housing towers nearby and was “frightened”.

    “There’s social gatherings before and after curfew including drug injecting in the streets and in the public housing towers’ car park,” she said.

    The centre opened in July 2018 and police have since made hundreds of arrests in the area.

    Liberal MP Craig Ondarchie said the dealers were continuing to “come from all over Melbourne” to North Richmond and do drug deals up side streets.

    “It seems Dan’s (Andrews) injecting room has a different set of rules to the rest of Victoria,” he said. “If Victorians are not required to travel more than 5km from their house except for four key reasons, if they are not getting medical attention at the centre and are gathering in other streets and getting fixes then they are breaking the law.”

    Herald-Sun

  192. jupes

    Leigh, I’m sorry but I can’t as it left a huge scar. We were kids then – in year 10 or so and it was the biggest story going around. We were so primed to see the fucker really die on tv live or very close to live and it turned out to be bullshit.

    Cut him some slack JC. Evil was indeed a showman, unique to his time. His schtick was to jump things e.g. three busses and two cars, not distance as such.

    He had broken every bone in his body (or so us schoolboys at the time believed), so why not make some money in a scam to jump the canyon?

  193. It would be helpful if those who’re slinging off at Evel Knievel for being a pussy could put some perspective on their commentary by telling us how many rivers they’ve jumped on a motorbike.

    We wouldn’t want anybody to think there’s commenters on the Cat who’re talking the talk but haven’t got the dick & balls to walk the walk (or jump the jump)

  194. No, you will need to have about five sequels of Dot’s Charles Bronson to attain Death Wish glory.

    I usually pack it in at 10 to midnight.

  195. feelthebern

    I usually pack it in at 10 to midnight.

    You need to watch the second half of Death Wish naked, stroking your member with a ka bar.

  196. jupes

    What is X in this case?

    6

    I find that hard to believe TE. The allies lost huge numbers of aircraft and aircrew over Europe e.g. Australian aircrew in Europe were more likely to be killed in combat than any other servicemen.

  197. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Dora Tsipouras, 53, who lives in Richmond, said her 75-year-old mother resided in one of the public housing towers nearby and was “frightened”.’

    Oh, nice one Dora. Pack your 75 year old mum up and turf her into the houso caves.

    Have you sold her organs yet?

  198. JC

    Driller, you depressed mirthless dead beat . How many rivers have you jumped over in a rocket? You were once blowharding about living in barracks trying to impress.

    Go do what countless nuts told you to do to toilet rolls.

  199. notafan

    Started watching ‘a certain justice’ on Netflix.

    Exactly the same plot as a us program I watched on the plane a couple of years ago.

    I assume remade in the us because parochial.

    Plot twist US version main character is m uslim

  200. rickw

    “They should be wearing masks and they shouldn’t be spitting and vomiting in the streets, they should be respecting social distancing,”

    If there’s one thing Dan has a talent for, it’s turning a great city into a dystopian shithole. Is there anything in Melbourne that isn’t messed up?

  201. You need to watch the second half of Death Wish naked, stroking your member with a ka bar.

    Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  202. Rafe Champion

    On the topic of nuclear war, here is a jolly song from the Kingston Trio when it was a current concern.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp6dsKleGpU&feature=youtu.be

    It came up when people were talking about wind-related songs on a thread at Jo Nova’s place.

  203. Top Ender

    Atomic War Quiz!
    • One question every 15.
    • Answers must be in to the former question by the time of the next post.
    • 10 points per question. Part marks may be given. 10 questions.

    Prize: signed copy of Top Ender’s new book Atomic Salvation – posted anywhere in Oz.

    Q1. From what island did the atomic bombing missions take off?

    Tinian Island

    Q2. The Hiroshima strike is often described as a one or two plane mission, but that is not correct. How many B-29 bombers actually were deployed to make the mission a success?

    Six:

    Three weather planes flew ahead, taking off first and covering a target each so the weather could be assessed over the prospective raid site. Two other B-29 bombers accompanied Enola Gay, which had been just named after pilot Colonel Tibbets’ mother. The two escort planes carried cameras and measuring devices.

    Q3. Enola Gay climbed to her bombing height of 32,000 feet, reaching it by 0725h local time.

    The instrument aircraft, The Great Artiste, throttled back until she was 1,000 feet behind the bomber, and the camera plane, Number 91, began to circle for photographs. At 0813 and 30 seconds the Enola Gay was handed over to Bombardier Ferebee for the target run. At 0815 and 17 seconds the bomb bay doors opened and the weapon was released. It was to take X seconds to fall to its detonation height.

    How many seconds?

    43

    Q4.

    What was the sad fate of Corporal John Long, from Pennsylvania, an air gunner from a downed B-24, in the Nagasaki attack?

    He was a POW imprisoned nearby, who died in the blast.

    Q5. If the war had proceeded conventionally, the Japanese had plenty of suicide troops ready to go. What type of suicide weapons did they have?

    Aircraft; submarines, speedboats, and divers. Militia personnel were also prepared to die with “satchel charges” by hurling themselves under enemy vehicles, for example, and detonating their explosive charge. They also would have used what they had developed in chemical, biological and nuclear devices – and these to get to the target would likely have involved suicide troops.

    Q6. Very difficult so double points. In WWII, the USA’s Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA, formed a group known as “Alsos”, to track and if necessary destroy any components of a German nuclear program. It was under the command of General Leslie Groves, who would later head up the Manhattan Project. What was ironic about the names?

    Groves translates into Greek as “alsos”.

    Q7. Most Allied deaths were from accident than from combat. To look at United States Army Air Force losses is instructive. For every one plane lost to enemy action, X more were lost to misadventure. These accidents were inevitable given the intensity of operations and the equipment of the time. Aircraft of the 1940s were simply not as safe as those of the time this book was written more than 70 years later. They did not have Global Positioning System navigation, for example, and getting lost was always a possibility. Bomber navigators worked their position through dead reckoning; star plotting through astrodomes when flying at night, and some crude electronics. Mechanical and electronic systems did not have triple redundancies as they do today. Crew training was measured in weeks rather than years. Aircrews were also pushing their airframes and engines to the limits in order to maximize effect.

    What is X in this case?

    6

    Q8. The USSR factor is often thought of as significant in the A-Bomb debates. How many aircraft carriers were the Russkis trying to develop for the war?

    Three. Soviet Russia is actually thought by some to have been completing the carrier Krasnaya Znamya in 1945, a 60 aircraft ship of 22,000 tons. Laid down in Leningrad in 1939, she is said to have been completed by 1945. A second hull named Voroshilov may have been begun, and a small seaplane carrier named Stalin may have also existed. None of these were known to be anywhere near operational ¬– it is worth noting that mere completion of the ships was worthless unless naval air units were able to be embarked and used. The skillsets necessary, such as taking off and landing on a carrier, take years for a navy to develop. The Russian Navy was composed of several battleships; cruisers, and a host of smaller vessels such as destroyers, and around 100 submarines, many of the latter small and their abilities doubtful.

    Q9. The intelligence officer of the US Fifth Air Force declared on 21 July, 1945, that “the entire population of Japan is a proper military target,” and he added emphatically, “There are no __________ in Japan.”

    What was he talking about?

    Civilians.

    Q10. The Emperor’s speech to the nation was ready to go. Rebel officers decided to capture him as he had been misled. They would smash the recordings of the speech. What were they recorded in, and where were they successfully hidden from the rebels?

  204. jupes

    Richmond respond as expected to the dickhead journalist’s provocation:

    Richmond’s statement released later on Friday said: “It had become aware of some player behaviour during post-match team songs recently that is unacceptable and not in line with the club or community expectations.”

    The statement said: “The entire playing group have made clear this behaviour will cease. Richmond is committed to providing a safe workplace environment and will continue to work to ensure that is the case.”

    “It was a stupid action and I am deeply embarrassed. I’ve apologised to Mabior,” Vlastuin said.

    “It was unacceptable behaviour and a poor example,” Short said.

    All this despite the ‘victim’s’ statement:

    Chol said he took no offence and had “no issue whatsoever with those players, or any of my teammates”.

    If only AFL clubs were still run by blokes like Mal Brown. How much better would it be if the club just told Riminton to get fucked.

  205. Gab

    Q10.
    Recorded on phonographs
    Hidden in some other documents

  206. One of my uncles recently published online (well, one of his kids did) excerpts from his diary.
    He stayed in after the war, & one of the jobs his Catalina crew had was to fly to Japan a short distance behind fighter squadrons that were repositioning to Japan.
    The Catalina’s job was to come along a short time later to pick up the pilot of the fighters that went into the drink during the ferry run up.

    The matter-of-fact way he wrote about it – as if it was a standard part of overwater flight to be followed by a flying boat to pick up the pilots who had to ditch.

    Return flights to Australia were made with wings sagging under the weight of luxury items picked up at the Manila refuel – stockings, cigarettes, food, chocolate, sugar, anything they could get from Yanks & resell .. er.. supply to people back in australia.

    Success of this side enterprise was dependant upon the returning Catalina not facing a particularly thorough customs inspection at point of re-entry to Oz. That apparently took as much luck as it did flying a Kittyhawk to Japan & not having to ditch.

  207. Bruce of Newcastle

    Phonographs in a box and a guys lunch.

  208. Bruce of Newcastle

    Haha. The wiki has a bird word, so here again minus the link: Phonographs in a box and a guys lunch.

  209. I’m feeling rather dumb – there’s only Three of T.E.’s questions to which I’ve known the answer.

  210. Knuckle Dragger

    Q10:

    Tunnels.

    Anne-like, child-filled tunnels.

  211. Top Ender

    Jupes, what that stat means is that WWII aircrew were killed in training, air-tests, ground accidents, idiocy, mechanical malfunction, getting lost, mid-air collisions, nav errors such as flying into mountains, and so on – at a rate of six for every one killed in combat.

    Combat was only a very small part of their existence every month.

    That measure is from the start of their training. Appalling, but true.

  212. Gab

    What was the code-breaking machine the yanks used to break Japanese code?

  213. Leigh Lowe

    Cut him some slack JC. Evil was indeed a showman, unique to his time. His schtick was to jump thingse.g. three busses and two cars, not distance as such.

    Actually, Jupes, jumping things was what he did on the day.
    In the weeks leading up he would pump it up, highlighting the risk that he might end up splattered over the side of a double-decker bus.
    It was straight out of the Barnum and Bailey’s playbook.
    At one stage he arrived in London for a show at Wembley. He had only sold a handful of tickets. At the airport on arrival he made a comment about the US saving the Poms during WW2.
    Stiff upper lips started to quiver with anger.
    Wembley was packed to the rafters with Poms wanting to see him die.

  214. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Q10. The Emperor’s speech to the nation was ready to go. Rebel officers decided to capture him as he had been misled. They would smash the recordings of the speech. What were they recorded in, and where were they successfully hidden from the rebels?

    Two phonograph records had been made – the Emperor was using a style of courtly Japanese most Japanese would not have spoken – and they were hidden in a safe.

  215. JC

    Driller

    You’re so courageous you placed your unread blog on moderation and removed a copy and pasted comment taken from one you posted here. You cowardly blowhard.

  216. feelthebern

    Evil was a hoax.
    Super Dave was where it was at.

  217. Makka

    This has not been actioned yet???

    The plans would also include “compulsory use of face masks, workforce controls and the use of private hospital resources that will be actioned in locations where there are active cases of Covid-19”, according to a statement issued after the national cabinet meeting.

    The two levels of government will spend the next fortnight developing plans covering a range of measures such as face-to-face infection control training with aged care facilities even where there are no known cases of coronavirus

    So, the plan was hope there was no 2nd wave;

    A parliamentary inquiry was told this week that 97 Victorian aged care facilities had been affected in the second wave, with 657 residents and 594 staff infected with Covid-19. A further 25 home care services for the elderly were also affected. Seventeen recipients of these services were infected, as were 24 staff working in home care. There had been 108 fatalities.

    Many more elderly will pass away alone. Disgusting;

    The Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews, updated the meeting on the developments in his state and thanked his counterparts for the support they had provided. On Friday it was revealed that there were now 911 healthcare workers with active infections of Covid-19 in Victoria, a rise of 101 since Thursday.

  218. Leigh Lowe

    Gab

    #3539620, posted on August 7, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    What was the code-breaking machine the yanks used to break Japanese code?

    The MemoryFault Big Website.
    (I actually don’t think it was a machine. The Cherman code “Enigma” was machine based, but was broken by the capture of a machine and broken by manual means I think)

  219. K2

    Moral indignation is often a cloak for jealously; I’d say that’s where Rimmerton is at.

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