Tuesday Forum: August 4, 2020

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  1. Shyte, and it’s such a trivial thing really, you made a mistake with your dates for the sake of bashing Kenneth.

    Quite so.
    Truth is malleable & facts are optional.

  2. zyconoclast

    9 killed, 25 wounded in Chicago weekend shootings
    The weekend closed out a July that saw a 139% jump in citywide murders compared to the same month last year, according to police statistics.

  3. Lodger from Oz

    notafan
    #3535432, posted on August 4, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    The purpose of a ladder being what according to safety dude? 😂

    My recollection from a safety scold years ago was that a ladder is for moving between levels. If you’re working at height – any height – you needed to use scaffolding. This resulted in much muttering under the breath from the assembled troops re practicalities. But for a while at least, there was a modicum of compliance – at least while the scold was known to be nearby.

  4. zyconoclast

    Portland records highest number of monthly murders in ‘OVER 30 YEARS’ as city slashes police budget

    The Portland Police Bureau (PPB) is investigating 15 murders that occurred in July, making the month one of the deadliest for the city in recent memory, local newspaper the Oregonian reported. The city has registered 24 homicides so far this year, meaning that last month alone accounted for more than half of the city’s violent deaths in 2020.

  5. In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, “I wouldn’t know, I’ve only ever killed Communists”

    Who was the Israeli General, when asked was Israel’s army one of the best in the world, replied: “I wouldn’t know, we only ever get to fight against arabs

  6. Lol, I think there’s actually a Miata in there getting pantsed!
    🤣🤣🤣

  7. kaysee

    1/ …… (of 2)
     
    Catallaction Club 📝
     
    [By now, you know the drill.
    Naysayers and Not-Interesteds, use your scroller. Please.
     
    All others, if you are interested in the topic, whether you want to join the club or not, read on……]
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….……
     
    I hope that a few who have read my previous Cat Club comments, have understood what I mean by ‘action’. It does not necessarily mean getting into a political party (though that may help), or a protest march (though if properly organised, and with a defined purpose, has merits). It is not about polishing up the rifle for some blood-letting either, at least, not of the bodily fluids kind.
     
    Actions can be of many types. Here is one example.
     
    There is a radio station (2GB Sydney) that used to have the reputation of being Conservative, and it enjoyed the top rating in the surveys, as well. I used to listen to the station.
     
    In 2017, during the postal survey, each show had vigorous debates on the topic: the definition of marriage. Listening to the Drive show, I got the impression that the presenter (BF) was a No voter. Suddenly, one day, he announced that he would be voting Yes, and gave some feelz reasons. Disappointing.
     
    On the day the survey results were announced, Abbott was on the show, as a guest. Abbott was a No voter, but BF was polite and courteous while speaking to TA. After that segment ended, a lady called in. She was a No voter, and she was upset with the result. Rather than letting her have her say, which should have been permitted on any talkback show, but more so on a station that is supposed to be Conservative, BF served her a blast. I was shocked by his reaction. If that wasn’t enough, he proceeded to play that rap-scrap alphabetxyz anthem doing the rounds, during the survey period.
     
    At that point, I switched off the show. Not just for that day, but permanently, from that presenter.

  8. JC

    Portland records highest number of monthly murders in ‘OVER 30 YEARS’ as city slashes police budget

    The left don’t seem to understand that even if the looting, pillaging and general destruction stops, business won’t come back. It actually may not be able to come back because Insurance premiums will make it prohibitive.

  9. miltonf

    I can only assume that demon-rat mayors in cities such as Portland, Minneapolis and Austin are turning their cities into smoldering garbage dumps to spite middle America whom Trump represents. Pretty tough on the people who live there though.

  10. kaysee

    2/
     
    Last year, during the Pell trial, the Morning show presenter, the protector of all the vulnerable, the Chief Justice of the radio world, pronounced his verdict. When the theme continued for days, I cancelled him from my radio listening list.
     
    Then it was Nights.
     
    Afternoons.
     
    Weekends.
     
    Finally, Breakfast.
     
    For the past two months, I have not listened to that radio station. I listen to radio, yes, just not that station. And the sun still rises in the east.
     
    Now, that is action as an individual. Will it make a difference? Probably not. But I am sharing it here.
     
    Radio stations depend on Advertising revenue, which is determined by Ratings. If thousands of the same Conservatives listeners who influenced the top rating slot, switched off that station, it would mean that when the next (Covid-delayed) survey takes place, the difference will be seen. If you need the radio on, there are several other stations. If you must have talkback, there are options there too. You could consider it an act of penance, and listen to Always Biased Cacophony. Check out how your tax dollars are working.
     
    A large group of listeners switching off, or tuning to another radio station, would affect the Ratings, and thus the Ad dollars. No marching in the streets needed. Or complaint letters. Or protest rallies in the CBD. Just a small change to habit. Collectively.
     
    The network would get the message: Ignore your loyal audience, and they will dump you.
    Get Woke, ………
    But will Conservative radio listeners do something so simple?
     
    Are there other Cats who have taken the same action in relation to 2GB, or the network stations in other states?

  11. notafan

    May have been discussed already.

    Latest spike of positive cases is people between 20 and 30.

    I say stop paying people $1500 to get sick and or ban Melbournians using t’nder and that other app.

  12. Numbers seems to have slunk off.
    Replaced a few minutes later by another senile old codger who loses track of their own stupid comments.
    Anybody ever seen the two at the same time?

  13. zyconoclast

    Mexico City bans treatment for unwanted LGBT attraction, threatens 5-year jail sentence
    ‘There is nothing to cure. Homosexuality is not a disease, we are not sick,’ declared the bill’s author.

    MEXICO CITY, August 3, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Treatment to help overcome unwanted homosexual tendencies will soon be illegal in Mexico City under a new law enacted Friday by the city’s Legislative Assembly.

    Under the legislation, which was first introduced two years ago, healthcare practitioners could spend up to five years in prison for conducting “practices consisting of psychological, psychiatric sessions, methods or treatments that are intended to nullify, hinder, modify or impair the expression of gender identity, as well as the sexual orientation of people,” Mexico News Daily reported. Such treatments are commonly known as reparative or “conversion” therapy.

  14. MatrixTransform

    Not just for that day, but permanently, from that presenter.

    phone the advertisers and let them know

  15. JC

    The Driller can’t help himself. A disgrace to this blog.

  16. notafan

    Lodger

    I thought that might be the argument but scaffolding every single time?

    I should use a scaffold to get something from a high shelf then.

  17. JC

    Greg Sheridan really is a sniveling moron.

    The state of emergency and extreme lockdown in Victoria is the right strategy for this horrible moment in the fight against COVID-19, and consistent with all international evidence.

    That’s not to say every element of the lockdown is necessary – the effort to get the biggest hit on the virus at the lowest cost is always a wicked problem requiring exquisite judgment.

    The idiot doesn’t appear to understand that we’re now 26 weeks into what was supposed to be a 6 week lockup and we have zero to show for it.

    It’s a virus, Greg, you blundering idiot. You can’t stop it and once you think you’re at manageable levels, it flares up again and again and again.

  18. Delta A

    If thousands of the same Conservatives listeners who influenced the top rating slot, switched off that station, it would mean that when the next (Covid-delayed) survey takes place, the difference will be seen.

    I agree, kaysee, but we should do as left activist groups do: contact the station/media outlet to let them know we are switching off, and contact the advertisers to inform them that we are not buying their products.

  19. Nick

    Replaced a few minutes later by another senile old codger who loses track of their own stupid comments.

    Faulty ?

  20. Pedro the Loafer

    Kaysee’s post about formerly conservative radio stations going woke reminded me.

    Have any WA Cats noticed that the WA Sunday Times is starting to resemble the Women’s Weekly?

    Full of shit about dresses, cooking and which botoxed up tart was seen at Perth fancy nightclubs.

    Even the opinion pieces are mostly written by women about babies, knitting or which couch would look nice in the lounge room.

  21. mh

    Brisbane forecast for Wednesday:

    Sunny 27

    🌞

  22. Why people were moving to Joh Qld in significant numbers,

    That was because of Jeff Kennett’s flensing of the Victorian public service.

    Show me where I posted that the two events were simultaneous.
    The term “Joh’s Queensland” is timeless.
    You’re getting carried away by your assumptions.
    Again, that’s vintage Catallaxy.
    Assumptions, verballing and conflation are always on the boil here.
    I’m assuming that those who did move up here at the time (and their offspring) are thanking old mate Jeff right about now.
    Remember when he was the toast of conservatives?
    Those were the days…..

  23. JC

    Nick

    The driller’s tried out the stoush trolling, take your pick on what to expect next.
    1. Narcissistic pubbling
    2. Croc Dundee impersonations.
    3. “Historology” (from wiki).
    5. Gneralized blowharding.

    Quite a decent repertoire. I picks 5.

  24. Lodger from Oz

    Unfortunately nota, he was that kind of guy. Luckily he didn’t hang around too long and moved on to greater things somewhere else. It was ridiculous – it would take longer to set up a scaffold than to do the actual job. Jobs were often planned for when he was offsite.

  25. It’s a virus, Greg, you blundering idiot. You can’t stop it and once you think you’re at manageable levels, it flares up again and again and again.

    But..but..I keep reading here that it’s a debil-debil Commie plot, or a hoax, or both.
    Struth has it all rolled up.

  26. 1735099 #3535504, posted on August 4, 2020 at 7:32 pm
    Why people were moving to Joh Qld in significant numbers,
    That was because of Jeff Kennett’s flensing of the Victorian public service.

    Show me where I posted that the two events were simultaneous.

    You’re a Rolled Gold Fuckwit.

  27. Snoopy

    I thought I heard on Queensland’s 9 News that the surname of the ‘Afghan’ security guard green-lighted past quarantine by Queensland’s CHO is ‘Carroll’.

    No mention of the man’s name on SBS or ABC. Palaszczuk coyly said ‘an exemption was granted’ without advising by whom.

    Did anyone else catch his name?

    Queensland’s police commissioner is Katrina Carroll. Maybe it was a reference to her that I misheard.

  28. MatrixTransform

    🌞

    buy sunscreen

    personally, I absolutely love, love, love this blustery, frigid, driving, icy … weather

  29. MatrixTransform

    Show me where I posted that the two events were simultaneous.

    can’t find his own dick.
    retard

  30. Boambee John

    Only on Catallaxy where truth is malleable and facts are optional.

    Is the bin chicken discussing his own posts again?

  31. Cassie of Sydney

    “The term “Joh’s Queensland” is timeless.”

    Your senility is showing. It’s past your bedtime racist.

  32. mh

    Headline at Courier Mail

    FOLAU’S SILENCE ON REFUSAL TO KNEEL DOES HIM NO FAVOURS

    Yes, he’s so uppity.
    On your knees jigger!

  33. kaysee

    I agree, kaysee, but we should do as left activist groups do: contact the station/media outlet to let them know we are switching off, and contact the advertisers to inform them that we are not buying their products.

    Delta, Yes, that would be the best approach.
     l
    But as we can see, Conservatives excel at talking. So I am trying to get us into a group, as I mentioned last week, in baby steps. Can we get Conservatives to do something as simple as turning off the radio station, while sitting in the comfort of the armchair?

  34. MatrixTransform

    homemade pea and ham soup
    just cut chives from the garden

    suckers

  35. EvilElvis

    Have any WA Cats noticed that the WA Sunday Times is starting to resemble the Women’s Weekly?

    Been complete opinionated shite for years, Pedro.

  36. You’re a Rolled Gold Fuckwit.

    Go and clean some toilets.
    Don’t forget to put the cute little folds on the end of the toilet roll.

  37. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Have any WA Cats noticed that the WA Sunday Times is starting to resemble the Women’s Weekly?

    I’m battling to remember the last time I opened a “Sunday Times.” Seven years ago, at least.

  38. Cassie of Sydney

    “MatrixTransform
    #3535520, posted on August 4, 2020 at 7:38 pm
    homemade pea and ham soup
    just cut chives from the garden

    suckers”

    I’ve just made chicken soup……delicious.

  39. twostix

    The state of emergency and extreme lockdown in Victoria is the right strategy for this horrible moment in the fight against COVID-19, and consistent with all international evidence.

    Sheridan’s on the CCP payroll.

  40. “The term “Joh’s Queensland” is timeless.”

    The genesis of this thread – the one culminating in you declaring that in 1992 people were evacuating Vic & arriving in Qld at 1987 – was a series of comparisons illustrating very starkly how Joh’s Qld is long gone.

    You had the benefit of the doubt & were treated objectively on the matter – you’ve conducted yourself as a lying fuckwit.
    The choice was yours.

  41. notafan

    Dan

    Exquisite judgement

    Did he really say that?

    Bonking security services

    Exquisite judgement

    Refusing army assistance

    Exquisite judgement

    Not stopping corona getting into nursing homes

    Exquisite judgement

    Saying wearing a mask is a waste of a mask

    Exquisite judgement

  42. So Joh’s Queensland, was actually Peter’s Queensland??

    Good lord. ‘nam’s accounting for time could rival any fraud in the accounts that Joh and maaates were accused of.

  43. twostix

    Only Victoria would have a chinese communist enamoured government spiraling out of control, sending the police to smash peoples windows in for being outside and imprisoning the population…and have the media class is saying it’s not enough – more!

    LOL.

    Never change Cubatoria.

  44. You’re a Rolled Gold Fuckwit.
    Go and clean some toilets.
    Don’t forget to put the cute little folds on the end of the toilet roll.

    The way you do things, the toilets would be flushed before the deposit is dumped, not after. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  45. BrettW

    Sports writer at the Oz called Will Swanton has an article titled.

    Israel Folau, Nick Kyrgios, Eddie McGuire shoot own feet again.

    Takes a swipe at Folau but comments massively going the other way.

  46. kaysee

    Headline at Courier Mail

    FOLAU’S SILENCE ON REFUSAL TO KNEEL DOES HIM NO FAVOURS

    With God or man?

  47. DrBeauGan

    The state of emergency and extreme lockdown in Victoria is the right strategy for this horrible moment in the fight against COVID-19, and consistent with all international evidence.

    My theory that it’s all a dry run for a serious killer virus is looking les plausible than widespread cretinism.

  48. Boambee John

    kaysee

    Catallaction.

    I used to listen in the car to parts of AJ, and to Hadley before he went bonkers. Gave up on the latter years ago, and AJ is no longer there. So now hardly turn the radio on at all, sometimes Their ABC at the top of the hour for headlines, but that is about it. Perhaps 10 or 15 minutes a week!

  49. Joh Bjelke Petersen revealed as another time lord.

    ‘namBob the Dalek is hell bent on revenge.

  50. Leigh Lowe

    BrettW

    #3535535, posted on August 4, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    Sports writer at the Oz called Will Swanton has an article titled.

    Israel Folau, Nick Kyrgios, Eddie McGuire shoot own feet again.

    Takes a swipe at Folau but comments massively going the other way

    The Oz is turning into a cesspool, but Swanton leads the pack.
    He was totally in the bag for the Vicar of Rugby and hasn’t quite got over her so spectacular fall.

  51. Hadley is so pro government he could come out as a NEP commie. Communism? Yeah, for the little people, if I’m allowed to be a kulak!

    What? How dare you expect to keep 80% of what you earn? When you’re starting off as my plumber’s apprentice in North Rocks, be happy we have a well funded police force keeping us safe from… voluntarily associating with others.

  52. Boambee John

    The term “Joh’s Queensland” is timeless.

    The bin chicken resorts to the weaseliest of weasel words. “Timeless”, means the dates don’t matter, only the feeelz!

  53. 1735099

    Show me where I “declared” people were evacuating Victoria in 1992 and arriving in Queensland in 1987.

    You said that.
    You own it.

  54. Boambee John

    PS, I wonder what Palacechook thinks about being the premier of Joh’s “timeless” Queensland?

  55. kaysee

    BJ, there are several other radio stations. What made 2GB special was that it had a Conservative focus. If the station doesn’t care about the values of its listeners, why should they stay loyal to the station.

  56. I consider Fitzsimian to be Primate of All Football and Czar of all Rugby Unions.

  57. Boambee John

    Don’t forget to put the cute little folds on the end of the toilet roll.

    Learn something new every day, bin chickens are related to pussies.

    Meeeooww!

  58. gafa

    So, you have to show an authorised piece of paper to prove you are legitimately travelling for work, but what proof do you have to show that you are legitimately travelling for an intimate relationship?

    Seriously, it may be the only way to make it to Gunner’s……………. for the protests.

  59. Tel

    FOLAU’S SILENCE ON REFUSAL TO KNEEL DOES HIM NO FAVOURS

    Last time Folau had an opinion they told him to STFU … now they are angry when he’s silent.

    Make up your mind, you boneheaded media morons!

  60. Jackie Trad (left labour and an actual Marxist) is definitely part of “Joh’s Queensland”.

    Sir Joh loved communism. He lapped it up like mother’s milk.

    Now prove to me where I called Sir Joh a pinko, you nutters.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Faulty.
    Australia’s oldest hall monitor.

  62. kaysee

    On the topic of radio stations.
     
    If you enjoy listening to good music – classical and jazz – and you don’t know, there is a radio station (No, not that one). This is a community radio station, listener-funded, and staffed mostly by volunteers.
     
    Online: Fine Music Sydney
     
    Digital: Fine Music DAB+
     
    FM: (Sydney) 102.5 MHz

  63. Leigh Lowe

    Nick.
    Check your email.
    Got a beauty from earlier today.

  64. Nick

    Just read it Leigh. I wet myself laughing

  65. Cassie of Sydney

    There’s a saying that Jesus said…I rather like it….”let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

  66. Show me where I “declared” people were evacuating Victoria in 1992 and arriving in Queensland in 1987.

    We’re going around in circles here.
    You said it 48 hrs ago.
    Your challenge now is to convince us you’re competent to walk among normal members of society.
    Coz they way you’re carrying on here, I would not allow you, or any other person exhibiting your mentality, to be around children.

  67. notafan

    I had a hunt for that permit permit on the DHHS website, supposed to be there tonight.

    Anyone had any luck?

  68. mh

    4BC was a great station 15 to 20 years ago.
    John Miller, John Laws from Sydney, Ian ‘Bear’ Maurice, Peter Dick, Peter Psaltis doing the evening sports show, Greg Cary sometimes. Chuck Brookes had a spell but got sacked.
    I think the station went to shit when Fairfax took over.
    Neil Breen is likely a good choice for the breakfast show.

  69. Leigh Lowe

    Fourth, it’s HIS blog and I doubt he has changed his mind. Tread carefully.

    STOMP, STOMP, STOMP, STOMP.
    Is that careful enough for you?
    While we are at it, I repeat one more thing:-
    It is fairly obvious that Spud is making clumsy attempts to goad Mater into revealing personal or service history details.
    Why is that, Faulty?
    I’ll tell you why because we can’t wait three weeks for you to figure it out, you blithering incontinent idiot.
    Mater takes Spud to the cleaners every day without fail.
    Spud is a vengeful turd still fighting the 1966 Federal election.
    Spud upset.
    Spud needs revenge, but not in open battle.

  70. Carpe Jugulum

    Something to lighten the mood

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Legalise Sedition

    #3535565, posted on August 4, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    Leigh check your email. 

    Shit, I missed that.
    Thanks Sedation.
    Copied the link and will save it up for the next time the buffoon staggers into the minefield.

  72. Sedation is one of the easiest and best jibes here.

    Too good. I get a chuckle every time.

  73. Hmmmm

    Alan Kohler has belled the cat in declaring a “long wave of crippling insolvencies”.

    He’s an ABC regular. If they’re prepared to accept how bad things may get, we might see some proper reporting on unemployment and so on.

    We might even get some openness about the true costs of a lockdown.

  74. kaysee

    Saniniu Kuryan Laizer, a Tanzanian small-scale miner, has become a multi-millionaire after uncovering two of the biggest of the country’s precious tanzanite stones ever found and selling them to the government for 7.7 billion Tanzanian shillings ($3.4 million).
    The stones weigh 9.2 kg (20.3 lbs) and 5.8kg.
     

  75. entropy

    The socialist idiot who spent decades demonstrating the importance of a private school education has clearly gotten confused.
    The reason so many Victorians retired to “Joh’s Queensland” is Joh got rid of death duties, in the late 1970s as I recall. Which was two decades before Kennett rescued the destroyed Victorian economy.

    The migration was so marked the other states all had to follow suit, removing their duties as well.

  76. Leigh Lowe

    Sedation is one of the easiest and best jibes here.

    Too good. I get a chuckle every time.

    Ha, ha.
    Not that clever.
    The first time I saw that screen-nane through a Cabernet fog and smudgy glasses late one night I actually thought that is what your handle said.

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The reason so many Victorians retired to “Joh’s Queensland” is Joh got rid of death duties, in the late 1970s as I recal

    That’s my understanding, as well.

  78. Nick

    Speaking of getting a pasting, Carlton have a virtue signalling round coming up. Quite a few supporters have made some pertinent remarks online

  79. William the Conjuror

    what are VikPol gonna do?

    Ask you for your name, address and date of birth. You know the drill.

  80. Oh my god.

    Normies will lap this up like an alcoholic and spilt ether.

    Yahoo Finance Australia: Radical 1% tax idea to save economy.

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/1-covid-19-levy-sam-dastyari-011143539.html

    Former Labor senator Sam Dastyari has proposed a 1 per cent tax on all Australians to cover the economic fallout of Victoria’s unprecedented lockdown restrictions.

    Speaking on Today on Tuesday, Dastyari said that if Australia truly was “all in this together”, the country would be finding a way to stem the financial hemorrhaging the Victorian lockdown has triggered.

  81. 1735099

    You said it 48 hrs ago.

    What I said was that teachers were moving to Queensland as a consequence of Kennett’s policies.
    This is a fact of history.
    I used the term “Joh’s Queensland” to link my comment to an earlier post – hence italics.
    That’s a common (and useful) strategy which links a response to an earlier post.
    You (and others) conflated the two and convinced yourselves that I had claimed Joh and Kennett were simultaneously in power.
    That is clearly rank bullshit.
    It’s amusing that you will drag this meme out over and over again.
    I’ve discovered that any reference to Fitzgerald triggers some here every single time.
    That has obviously happened again.
    It always causes admirers of corrupt gerrymandering authoritarian leaders to suffer head explosions.
    That’s why Trump is worshipped here.
    Par for the course….

  82. MatrixTransform

    I’ve just made chicken soup……delicious.

    Hmm … my other favourite

    enjoy

  83. I fail to see why a miner at Marble Bar or a nomadic Walpiri man in western NT ought to pay a “1%” tax (poll tax? income tax?) to pay for Melbin mega beta soy cucks revelling in their six week holiday from the Vicco Dept. of Diversity and the Yartz.

  84. Leigh Lowe

    Nice try Faulty.
    But here’s the thing.
    Not everyone is as dumb as you.
    Jeez, the little trap you were trying to spring was so fucking obvious.
    Desparate.
    Has to side with Spud to create the bait for the pathetic attempted trip-up.

  85. MemoryFault

    It always causes admirers of corrupt gerrymandering authoritarian leaders to suffer head explosions.

    The QLD so called “gerrymander” was introduced by a Labor government well before Joh’s time.

  86. Look numbers.

    No one here is defending corruption.

    Did Victorian education decline during or just after Kennett?

    No?

    Then there were too many teachers in make work roles.

    If what you said is true, Kennett probably did them a favour.

    There is nothing fulfilling in being a jobsworth.

  87. hzhousewife

    I fail to see why a miner at Marble Bar or a nomadic Walpiri man in western NT ought to pay a “1%” tax (poll tax? income tax?) to pay for Melbin mega beta soy cucks revelling in their six week holiday from the Vicco Dept. of Diversity and the Yartz.

    Especially as the vast majority of the Vic workforce “moving forward” will be Pubic Servants who just got a 2% pay rise.

  88. Is Bin Chicken like Beggar’s Chicken? Or Grifter’s Chicken?

  89. entropy

    It’s OK, one of the benefits of a belief in socialism is that it can be hard to identify the onset of senility.

  90. MatrixTransform

    Fifth, fuck of you cock head.

  91. JC

    Not having a clue what any of these topics might be could make commenting interesting.

    Says one of the three principal defamers who incurred the ban threat. Can’t blog honestly and can only resort to lies. No ethics.

  92. entropy

    Melbin mega beta soy cucks revelling in their six week holiday from the Vicco Dept. of Diversity and the Yartz.

    They would still be on full pay.

  93. Zyconoclast

    Saniniu Kuryan Laizer, a Tanzanian small-scale miner, has become a multi-millionaire after uncovering two of the biggest of the country’s precious tanzanite stones ever found and selling them to the government for 7.7 billion Tanzanian shillings ($3.4 million).
    The stones weigh 9.2 kg (20.3 lbs) and 5.8kg.

    Good on him but is it as valuable as vibranium?

  94. 1735099

    That was my understanding as well.

    I lived through two migrations of Victorians.
    The first was, amongst other things, a consequence of Joh’s kiboshing death duty.
    The second was Kennett’s sackings of public servants and teachers.
    I was in Mt Isa at the time where one of my jobs was recruiting specialist teachers.
    A couple of them finished up in the North West, which was a helluva shock to their systems, but they had skills we needed and we gave them lots of support.
    One, who became a family friend, ended up running her own special school on the coast after about seven years in the NW.
    Victoria’s loss was our gain.

  95. entropy

    If all the dead head Vicco teachers that got sacked by Kennett moved to Queensland, that would help explain Queensland’s educational standard rankings (in addition to numbers hisself that is).

  96. Boambee John

    It always causes admirers of corrupt gerrymandering authoritarian leaders to suffer head explosions.

    But enough about the previous ALP government in South Australia!

  97. Leigh Lowe

    Look, Joh did some good stuff in Queensland, but let’s not develop a blind spot about the many crooks in his gummint and his appointees in the public sector, particularly in his last decade or so.
    .
    Standby to be called a Mexican hairdresser poofter in 3 … 2 …1

  98. I have a contact in TfNSW.

    Totally fucked, NSW.

    Xe feels guilty about doing little work since the end of March, but xer boss said xe has done more work than most.

    Working from home. Furloughed on full pay. Paid leave on working from home. Leave loading.

    This lockdown is just a massive holiday for the PS in NSW and Australia.

  99. Boambee John

    I’ve just made chicken soup……delicious.

    Bin chicken?

  100. Rockdoctor

    Ran by a friend who has contacts in the ADF still. Guy returning from Afghan wouldn’t be one of them or a lower down pleb in PS in his & their opinion. They are all quarantining at Hotels even entering on official passports.

    Certain parts are becoming in short supply on some equipment because of Victoria. This is going to flow on big time the longer it goes on.

  101. entropy

    And no I don’t count the NT, SA and Tas as education standard competition.

  102. JC

    The movement to Queensland was a little more than retirees moving to there to escape death duties. The US experienced before we did. It was called the move to the Sunbelt states. A number of things caused it, but I very much doubt young people at the time, moving to QLD was because they wanted to escape death duties.

    In fact, the migration from the southern states saw movement to both NSW and QLD. I can’t recall of there were death duties imposed at the state level at the time, as I thought these levies were raised federally. If that’s the case old folk didn’t move to QLD to escape death taxes. They moved there for the sun. That pretty much has been reversed over the past years with people moving to Victoria.. at least young people.

  103. Boambee John

    Legalise Sedition
    #3535610, posted on August 4, 2020 at 8:32 pm
    Is Bin Chicken like Beggar’s Chicken? Or Grifter’s Chicken?

    Nah, just a pest that spends all day scratching around in the trash heap, scattering rubbish everywhere.

  104. JC

    Weren’t death duties raised federally at the time? If there were state duties they would have been relatively insignificant to the federal ones.

  105. You said it 48 hrs ago.

    What I said was that teachers were moving to Queensland as a consequence of Kennett’s policies.

    Yep, that’s exactly what you said. They were moving to Joh’s Qld as a consequence of Kennett’s policies.

  106. The young moved to Melbin for da diversity…and da vibrancy.

    Much like Perth in the second circumstance.

    Really, they moved for $25 burgers, man bun wax and $9 lattes.

    JC how much does a tub of hair wax cost for a French Bulldog?

  107. Snoopy

    The alleged crooks of the Joh goverment were replaced by the uncommonly lucky, but allegedly honest, spivs of the Goss goverment.

  108. Steve trickler

    Discovery is a wonderful thing.



  109. kaysee

    Is the WordPress application censoring information posted here?
     
    The YouTube link above is not available through WP. You have to click the link to YouTube and view it there.
     
    And the links in this comment worked fine when it was posted, but not available now.

  110. Bruce in WA

    Are there other Cats who have taken the same action in relation to 2GB, or the network stations in other states?

    Yep. I’ve been a longtime listener of 6IX here in Perth, since the 1970s, then 1080 and 105.7.

    Switched the radio/alarm on beside the bed one morning to hear “Baby” John Burgess (“Just one more facelift”) and some other dick launch into a tirade, totally founded on BS, against Donald Trump. Much laughing and “look-how-woke-we-are”.

    So I wrote an email and sent, telling them exactly what I thought and that after almost 50 years, they had lost another listener. I even told them what station I would be supporting (and I did, by paying to become a member).

    They rang my mobile next morning, then hung up when I answered. Apart from that, SFA.

    To hell with them!

  111. Maj

    The Art Of The Deal, right there.

    Trump says Treasury deserves ‘large percentage’ of possible TikTok sale to Microsoft

    Trump earlier in the day gave his verbal approval to a potential deal between TikTok and an American company like Microsoft

    President Trump reiterated on Monday afternoon that he’s fine with Microsoft or another American tech company buying TikTok, but he said that a “large percentage” of the sale should go into the U.S. Treasury.

    “I will tell you there’s a lot of excitement by Microsoft and others so well see what happens,” Trump said during a press briefing at the White House. “But we deserve to have big percentage of price coming to Treasury.”

  112. feelthebern

    The US has competitive tension between states.
    Australia has zero competition between states.

  113. Mark A

    death duties, always state affairs

  114. JD

    The Gods must be angry. snow in summer in china.

  115. feelthebern

    This thesis will be a doozy.
    Consecutive lines of text are unrelated & if the reader connects them, they are conflating the content.

  116. kaysee

    Good on him but is it as valuable as vibranium?

    Get back to the real world, zyco. 🙂

  117. Good lord

    MacroBusiness: Exclusive Gerard Minack: MMT the new normal. Get over it.

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2020/08/exclusive-gerard-minack-mmt-the-new-normal-get-over-it/

    “Scummo” is behind da times because he is slower than others to collapsing their currency like what happened to the papiermark or Argentine peso.

    MMTers are like drug addicts who want a hit and do not give a shit about dying.

  118. Cassie of Sydney

    “hear “Baby” John Burgess”

    Geez, is he still around…..he must be a walking corpse.

  119. feelthebern

    Secret footage of numbers at work.

  120. Sinclair Davidson

    Gentlepeople – I have just deleted 21 comments relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.

  121. JC

    Okay, there were bother federal and state death duties. However, it seems ,from this piece, once QLD got rid of them the other states followed.

    Inheritance taxes were once a well-established part of Australia’s taxation system, with all states having inheritance taxes at Federation. These taxes/duties were an important source of state revenue in the early 20th century, with their importance declining over time with the introduction of other forms of taxation. The Australian Institute for Business and Economics
    7
    8Commonwealth also began levying inheritance taxes in 1914, to assist in funding wartime expenses. (Reinhardt & Steel, 2006) Inheritance taxes became increasingly unpopular during the late 60s and 70s and in 1978 the Queensland Bjelke-Petersen Government abolished them, with the other states and the Commonwealth following.At the time of abolishment there were a number of major criticisms that contributed to decline in popularity of inheritance taxes. Firstly, inheritance had been initiated with relatively low exemption thresholds. At the federal level, a basic exemption of only $40,000 meant that approximately twelve percent of estates were affected across Australia. However, at the state level, exemptions for estates and gifts were as low as $12,000, affecting approximately twice as many estates than at the national level. Furthermore, no adjustments for inflation were made on exemptions since the 1940s, exacerbating the problem of already low exemptions. As a result, many surviving widows who inherited relatively modest estates faced financial hardships. Though efforts were made to exempt inter-spousal transfers, the fear of death duties among those with modest or no inheritance became widespread.Figure 5 – Commonwealth Inheritance Taxes Prior to Abolition5Estate value250,000500,000750,0001,000,0001,250,000Rate of duty (%)0102030 Estates passing to family Estates passing to non-familySource: Gans, and Leigh (2006)Secondly, farming interests were also among those that looked upon death duties unfavourably. The financial hardship, generated by farmland with high market value and low rate or return, meant that farms had to be sold, or agricultural holdings fragmented, to meet liabilities on death duties. Although there was little evidence for this and data was sparse, farming interests were certainly the strongest supporters for repeal of death duties. Thirdly, a factor underpinning the abolition of death duties in Australia was the relative ease at which these taxes could be evaded. It was rightly criticised as a taxation system filled with loopholes. As the Asprey Committee observed in 1975: “[the Australian death tax] is certainly at present a tax which can be avoided by well-advised persons with ease, and which might also be said to be paid principally from the estates of those who died unexpectedly or who had failed to attend to their affairs with proper skill.” Cooper (1979) labelled estates taxes as a “voluntary tax”, as the tax was considered easy to avoid by sophisticated and well-informed 5 Gans, J & Leigh, A (2006) Did the Death of Australian Inheritance Taxes Affect Deaths?Australian Institute for Business and Economics
    9taxpayers, due to numerous mechanisms for exemption. For example, discretionary trusts were frequently used to pass on wealth between generations free from inheritance tax. Those with larger estates had greater incentives to plan ahead and seek professional advice, shifting the burden of the tax to smaller estates. As popularity of inheritance taxes decreased, the reliance of the states and the commonwealth on these taxes had simultaneously declined. By 1973, the death duty only represented 0.7% of tax revenue for the Commonwealth Government and at the state level, death duties accounted for less than 9% of total tax revenue, lower than at any time in history. As inflation had caused modest estates to enter the tax net, the administrative and compliance costs had caused net revenues to decrease even further. A reinstated inheritance tax would need to consider these historical factors in the design of the tax, in order to avoid the issues and criticisms associated with its former version

    The wealthy didn’t need to move to QLD to avoid state death duties. That’s just bullshit. They avoided them easily.

  122. MatrixTransform

    For Dickless … and numpty … and faulty … and william the conjugator

    http://bustednuckles.com/2020/08/03/this-is-some-damn-good-advice/

  123. feelthebern

    Gentlepeople – I have just deleted 21 comments relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.

    Essendon & Dr Dank ?

  124. Guys. Sshh. Don’t talk about the Pangolin’s record of consecutive posts.

  125. mh

    Gentlepeople – I have just deleted 21 comments relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.

    🤔

  126. Leigh Lowe

    Then there were too many teachers in make work roles.

    If what you said is true, Kennett probably did them a favour.

    There is nothing fulfilling in being a jobsworth.

    What they were so incensed about is that Kennett did the ultimate rug-pull on them.

    Under Cain-Kirner there were several public sector “restructures” which would involve someone taking a package, heading off on a Women’s Weekly World Discovery tour and, upon arriving back home, would be inducted back into the public sector club in a very similar job to the one they were just made redundant from.
    Kennett restructured but what the redundancy candidates did not know was that the little known “do not re-employ for 12 months” clause was to be strictly enforced.
    A lot of them had blithely taken a package without having enough to retire on, believing that they were just pocketing some free cash and would be back in their slot in no time.
    That is why they were furious with Kennett and had to piss off to Queensland.
    He absolutely played them on a break.

  127. Nick

    relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.

    Sometimes is hard to know which one it is. There are a few.

  128. kaysee

    So I wrote an email and sent, telling them exactly what I thought and that after almost 50 years, they had lost another listener. I even told them what station I would be supporting (and I did, by paying to become a member).

    Bruce, unless we all get together and fight back, the situation will just get woker. We have to find the ways to hit them where they will feel it most. In the $$$.

  129. Rockdoctor

    Nice kaysee. Had to google this one though, had me miffed till I saw it is a mineral related to epidote.

  130. entropy

    I don’t think he states could impose death duties anymore, the feds could no doubt come up with some novel reason, like it was an excise or summit.

    I remember cheering when the high court decided states couldn’t levy excise, but now I realise we were screwed. As well as killing off competitive federalism, it meant everyone got the same excise on stuff like fuel. Queensland went from no fuel excise at all to where we are now at over 43 cents a litre.

  131. Boambee John

    Salvatore

    Yep, that’s exactly what you said. They were moving to Joh’s Qld as a consequence of Kennett’s policies.

    The bin chicken has already taken the precaution of posting some weasel words to squirm out of that. He said

    The term “Joh’s Queensland” is timeless.

    I guess that means that Palacechook is the spiritual heiress of Joh?

  132. JC

    Much like Perth in the second circumstance.

    Around 2007 or so, WA experienced the largest growth in GDP ever seen in a western country. The iron ore was there and the capital came from elsewhere of course. 🙂

    Really, they moved for $25 burgers, man bun wax and $9 lattes.

    WA had 7 dollar coffees in 2007!

    JC how much does a tub of hair wax cost for a French Bulldog?

    A full dog groom is about 65 bucks. I doubt a french bulldog requires a groom though.. They have short fur, no?

  133. Bruce in WA

    Geez, is he still around…..he must be a walking corpse.

    Well mummified …

  134. feelthebern

    I don’t even listen to radio stations when driving anymore.
    I’ll tune into a podcast or laugh my balls off on the Compound Media app.

  135. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3535653, posted on August 4, 2020 at 8:56 pm

    relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.

    Sometimes is hard to know which one it is. There are a few

    At least two.
    One is obviously the [xxxxxx kxxxx xxxxxxxx]
    The other seems to be the [xxxxxx vxxxxxx xxxxx].

  136. Sinclair Davidson

    Kaysee – I checked those links. Don’t know what’s wrong with them.

  137. JC

    MacroBusiness: Exclusive Gerard Minack: MMT the new normal. Get over it.

    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2020/08/exclusive-gerard-minack-mmt-the-new-normal-get-over-it/

    That site is horrendous. Not only are they totally dishonest, but they’re really, really stupid.

    QE is NOT MMT.

  138. kaysee

    Rockdoctor, I had to run a search on the word too. 🙂

  139. Leigh Lowe

    Sorry kaysee, I don’t listen to 2GB.
    I do know Ray Hadlee is a mouthy dickhead but that is as far as it goes.

  140. entropy

    I guess that means that Palacechook is the spiritual heiress of Joh?

    In the current Qld Parliament that might even be true.

  141. The term “Joh’s Queensland” is timeless.

    Took the shameless turd 48 hrs & a good slapping reminder that his supreme dickheadsmanship wouldn’t be allowed to settle.

    He’s now indisputably got no credibility whatsoever, about anything.
    Anything he says is to be treated as keyboard diarrhoea.
    He should seek help. He belongs in care.

    Yep, Anastacia Bjelke-Petersen, you can’t pick her policies & skilz from the original.

  142. Infidel Tiger King

    Gentlepeople – I have just deleted 21 comments relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.

    Look, I like rosè and you’ll never silence me on that matter.

  143. feelthebern

    There’s been surprisingly little interest in the George Floyd footage from the msm.
    I saw a snippet on the news.com.au website earlier but it was a tight 30 second vid.
    But that’s it.
    What a disgrace.

  144. Sinclair Davidson

    Sometimes is hard to know which one it is. There are a few.

    We have very few rules here.

    Think of me as ‘Sinc the peacemaker’. I want to keep the peace – especially my peace. So rather than reading through the thread I want to be watching the Tigers punishing the interstate interlopers the Lions. While quaffing Sauv Blanc. That is peace.

  145. calli

    Mankinis, fishnets and thigh high boots?

    Or…scatter cushions?

  146. Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce, unless we all get together and fight back, the situation will just get woker. We have to find the ways to hit them where they will feel it most. In the $$$.”

    Kaysee..I agree with your sentiment but that is what will happen to Radio 2GB and other “woke” media.
    Radio 2GB is already losing listeners and companies who advertise on 2GB, even the most woke companies, won’t advertise on a radio station that has few listeners. What’s the point?

  147. calli

    That can’t be right.

    Knitted neckties.

  148. Mitch M.

    kaysee
    #3535635, posted on August 4, 2020 at 8:44 pm
    Is the WordPress application censoring information posted here?

    The YouTube link above is not available through WP. You have to click the link to YouTube and view it there.

    And the links in this comment worked fine when it was posted, but not available now.

    That has happened to couple of my links. I think it is the Youtube creator preventing screening other than on Youtube, probably to preserve their click rate and advertising revenue.

  149. feelthebern

    While quaffing Sauv Blanc.

    Oh behave.

  150. Infidel Tiger King

    The US has competitive tension between states.
    Australia has zero competition between states.

    That might change soon.

    We will see a mass migration next year out of Victoria.

    No one of sound mind and transferable skills would choose to live there.

  151. kaysee

    Kaysee – I checked those links. Don’t know what’s wrong with them.

    Thanks for checking, Sinc. They worked when I posted the comment, and suddenly they have gone.

  152. entropy

    Of course MMT isn’t QE. QE at least increases the asset values of current asset holders.
    MMTers start by just pissing money up against the wall and once they get a firm grip they squirt it all about in golden showers over the great unwashed, lapping up a few droplets for themselves while they are at it. Then all the puddles dry up in the sun with little to show except a stain.

  153. Sinclair Davidson

    Look, I like rosè and you’ll never silence me on that matter.

    IT – I was trying to tell you, as a friend, that no man drinks rose … or eats quiche. Trust me on this.

  154. feelthebern

    Victoria is broken.
    No one will move from the place though.
    They are a broken people.

  155. Infidel Tiger King

    I love quiche and rosë.

    Actually, what a great food match.

  156. entropy

    We will see a mass migration next year out of Victoria.

    To SA. Please.

  157. rickw

    It’s a freezing night in Melbournibad, Victoriastan.

    At a Vikpol checkpoint, after having smashed their third successive passenger car window for the night over a lack of papers and following guidelines.

    One of them realises something….

  158. Leigh Lowe

    Gentlepeople – I have just deleted 21 comments relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.

    Thanks Sinc.
    I did notice Faulty was overstepping the mark and was hoping you would step in.

  159. Infidel Tiger King

    Country Victoria is beautiful.

    Damned if I would live in Melbourne these days. Once the worlds best city.

  160. kaysee

    Mitch, that is possible with that particular video.
    But the other comment had links to the letter from the AG to the FaceBook CEO. Not flattering to Zuckerberg.

  161. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Gentlepeople – I have just deleted 21 comments relating to a topic I had asked to be abandoned.’

    Thank Christ for that. I was reading down the page and the whole thread flow was stuttering like the gaoler in Life of Brian.

    Quotes and references were made of things that weren’t there. Had I missed them? Scroll up. Gonski. Back down. More of the same.

    Nothing made sense. The world was upside down land. Bizarro World, I tell you. Thankfully clarification arrived in the form of management.

    Good thing too. I thought I was having some sort of seizure.

  162. feelthebern

    I don’t have many regrets.
    Everything’s a learning experience.
    But I regret not moving to the US when I was 20ish.

  163. JC

    entropy
    #3535680, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    Of course MMT isn’t QE. QE at least increases the asset values of current asset holders.
    MMTers start by just pissing money up against the wall and once they get a firm grip they squirt it all about in golden showers over the great unwashed, lapping up a few droplets for themselves while they are at it. Then all the puddles dry up in the sun with little to show except a stain.

    That’s one way of putting it. I can’t believe those weasels at that site are posting bullshit like this.

  164. feelthebern

    KD, breaking out the new tactical turtleneck tomorrow.

  165. Top Ender

    SPECTATOR AUSTRALIA

    The Empire’s atomic salvation

    75 years ago, Japan was saved by the Bomb

    Top Ender

    The atomic bombings of Japan, which occurred 75 years ago this year, stunned and horrified the world.

    The first blast, which obliterated Hiroshima on Aug. 6, 1945, killed more than 100,000 people, mostly civilians. The second attack, which targeted Nagasaki on Aug. 9, killed another 80,000.

    Most victims died in the immediate detonations and resulting firestorm; many additional thousands were burned or succumbed later from exposure to fallout. The misery continued: cancer rates in post-war Japan skyrocketed, while future generations suffered the long-term effects of radioactive contamination.

    Yet, despite the scale of the humanitarian catastrophe stemming from the decision by the United States to drop the two bombs on Japan, a conventional military campaign to conquer the home islands, planned under the codename Operation Downfall, would almost certainly have exacted an even greater death toll. Here’s an assessment.

    The Empire, though shattered in 1945, was far from beaten. Around 10,000 kamikaze aircraft awaited the troopships. The lesser known suicide speedboats would have attacked with similar numbers, while beneath the waves 600 submarines would have carried their one- and two-man crews on a one-way voyage. Exact figures are hazy, but around 35 million armed militia and regular forces would have fought the invading Allies.

    Added to the prospective grim figures were the hundreds of thousands already dying every week in Japanese-held lands. If today you are an Indonesian, a Malaysian, a Chinese, or a member of any one of the myriad of countries and territories taken by the Empire, you too should be grateful for the B-29 bombers Enola Gay and Bock’s Car, and their crews, and the Manhattan Project which created the bombs they dropped.

    There were approximately 300,000 POWs in captivity in Japan by mid-1945. As Allied troops landed, Japanese commanders would likely have made good on their plans to execute the prisoners en masse, thereby freeing up the guards to go and meet the invaders.

    There would likely have been over a million Allied combat deaths as well. In fact, some have estimated as many as 15,000 Allied military fatalities a week through to the end of 1946. Unbelievable? From D-day in France, 6 June 1944, through to August 21, the Allies lost 73,000 dead.

    Some have argued that there were alternatives: The Soviet Union’s entry to the war might have convinced the Empire to surrender, although there are no guarantees of that. Japan had famously beaten the Russians in 1905. Besides, the Soviet Union, which had most of its military might positioned in Eastern Europe, lacked the capability for amphibious assault. Furthermore, Russia had little naval forces in Pacific, and no aircraft carriers or battleships to gun the beaches as did Britain and the U.S. military.

    Similarly so with any ideas of starving Japan out. The food supplies would have been switched in the main to the troops, hurting the common people even more. But they were preparing to die anyway: young teenagers were being pressed into training for armed resistance. The Japanese patriotic song “One Hundred Million Souls for the Emperor,” meant just that. One line went: “The day is near when the one hundred million people as one man will be in active resistance to the enemy.”

    This was the ultimate irony. Dying made perfect sense to many in the bizarre world of wartime Japan. Millions of soldiers and sailors had already perished. How many more of Japan’s six million remaining men under arms would have been killed rather than surrender?

    Australian general William Slim, one of the best fighting leaders of the war, expected the Allies to face tenacious defenders.

    “There can be no question of the supreme courage and hardihood of the Japanese soldiers,” he wrote. “I know of no army that could have equaled them.” In fact, the Emperor’s troops died at a rate which some came to call the “Saipan ratio,” referring to the 97 per cent of the Japanese troops who fought to the death or committed suicide rather than surrender.

    In the Home Islands Japanese schoolgirls learnt to use rifles, and women learnt sharpshooting so they could harass Allied troops from the mountains. The use of “satchel charges” was taught, where the user hurled oneself under an enemy vehicle and detonated it.

    A Japanese doctor, Shuntaro Hida, working at the Army Hospital in Hiroshima, listed as one of his tasks the education of medical orderlies regarding the techniques of suicide bombing.

    “The soldiers were trained to strap bombs to their bodies and throw themselves against the tanks,” he would later recall.

    Even after the two atomic blasts the official line was propagated in the newspapers that the country would, and could, continue the war. A typical newspaper carried a headline: “No reason to fear new style bomb” and went on to review the new style countermeasures against the atomic weapons.

    The loss of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were initially seen as no great obstacle to the steadfast orderliness of Japanese people continuing the war. One soldier on leave from Hiroshima when the first bomb fell, Toyofumi Ogura, simply reported for duty as the supervisor of a student work group charged with making hand grenades. They continued their task, even on the outskirts of a city which had seen massive destruction. The Allies dropped, to no avail, millions of leaflets advising people to petition their leader and evacuate their cities.

    It took the decision of the Emperor to bring it all to a halt.

    Even then a revolution began, to save him from the “misguided advice” he had received. But saner heads prevailed: “one plane, one bomb, one city” was so convincing an argument the war suddenly stopped, as the Emperor broadcast by radio his decision to the nation.

    It is odd that over the years some people have pushed a concept that the use of the A-Bombs was wrong. Better, most people would agree, that in the terrible arithmetic of war, that 200,000 should die than many millions.

    If the war had continued, it’s entirely possible that as many as 27 million Japanese might have died, as the Allied armies blasted their way from the initial landings zones at the Kyushu Peninsula up towards Tokyo. The mountainous terrain of the entire country would have favoured a cave and tunnels defence, and the Allies would have attacked with overwhelming artillery and airpower rather than risk their infantry. But Japan’s brave people would have been eventually annihilated. Ironically, The A-bombs, as horrible as they were, had indeed given salvation.

    -o-o-O-o-o-

    Top Ender’s Atomic Salvation is published in the Australia and the USA by Big Sky Publishing, and Casemate.

    The spectator australia | 8 august 2020 | http://www.spectator.com.au

  166. kaysee

    Sorry kaysee, I don’t listen to 2GB.

    Well done, LL. Part of the solution.

  167. JC

    Damned if I would live in Melbourne these days.

    Why? In bullet points please.

    Leaving aside the harbor, Melbourne is by far a much nicer looking city in the burbs. Sydney architecture is horrendous. I equally despise both CBD’s as they are really ugly.

  168. Knuckle Dragger

    The reason I’m late is I was out protesting at my local shopping centre, out the front of a couple of Chineee takeaways.

    They didn’t like my demand to immediately rename black bean sauce and then I got hungry so I came home.

  169. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3535694, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    KD, breaking out the new tactical turtleneck tomorrow.

    Hold up.
    That hasn’t been approved by the Uniforms and Battledress Sub-committee yet.

  170. mh

    Quiche, chips and salad.

    Which brings me to my point. When you buy a lunchtime meal, such as the lunch rump, it normally comes with salad.
    The salad is the issue here.
    That salad is normally an absolute disgrace.

  171. Top Ender

    The voice of Mr Burns and Ned Flanders on The Simpsons has questioned the show’s decision to stop white actors playing black characters.

    Harry Shearer, 76, who has also voiced the African-­American medic Dr Julius Hibbert­ in the animated comedy, said: “The job of the actor is to play someone who they are not.”

    Since the launch of The Simpsons in 1989, most residents of the fictional town of Springfield have been voiced by a core group of six actors, all of whom — including Shearer — are white.

    The show’s depiction of Apu, owner of the Kwik-E-Mart convenienc­e store, became a source of controversy, with ­complaints that his character presented an insulting stereotype of Indians in the West.

    Apu was voiced by Hank ­Azaria, who admitted that he did not know any South Asian people when he came up with the “not tremendously accurate” accent.

    In June, as the Black Lives Matter movement forced a review­ of racial depictions across the media, producers announced that The Simpsons would no longer have white actors voice non-white characters.

    It is not yet clear whether Apu and Dr Hibbert will be written out of future series or revoiced by new performers.

    In an interview with Matt Chorley on Times Radio on Monday, Shearer — who also plays Waylon Smithers, Principal Skinner and Reverend Lovejoy — said actors should be able to play characters outside their persona­l experience, noting that he also had nothing in common with Mr Burns and Ned Flanders.

    “I have a very simple belief about acting. The job of the actor is to play someone who they are not. That’s the gig, that’s the job description,” he said.

    He warned that diversity efforts were in danger of conflating “representation”, the important work of ensuring that the industry employs people and reflects the lives of different communit­ies, with on-screen performance.

    He declined to criticise the show directly, joking that “we don’t get paid by the voice” so he would not suffer financially from not playing Dr Hibbert.

    He said his favourite character was Monty Burns, the money-­hungry nuclear-power tycoon: “He’s pure evil, and nothing’s better­ than that for comedy.”

    The animated sitcom has run for 684 episodes over 31 series, spawning catchphrases such as “D’oh!” and “Eat my shorts”.

    The Times

  172. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘KD, breaking out the new tactical turtleneck tomorrow.’

    *gasps*

    The tacticality will be beyond measure.

  173. Bruce in WA

    While quaffing Sauv Blanc.

    Until now, I never knew you were gay!

    Oh well … que sera, sera.

  174. Top Ender

    The voice of Mr Burns and Ned Flanders on The Simpsons has questioned the show’s decision to stop white actors playing black characters.

    Harry Shearer, 76, who has also voiced the African-­American medic Dr Julius Hibbert­ in the animated comedy, said: “The job of the actor is to play someone who they are not.”

    Since the launch of The Simpsons in 1989, most residents of the fictional town of Springfield have been voiced by a core group of six actors, all of whom — including Shearer — are white.

    The show’s depiction of Apu, owner of the Kwik-E-Mart convenienc­e store, became a source of controversy, with ­complaints that his character presented an insulting stereotype of Indians in the West.

    Apu was voiced by Hank ­Azaria, who admitted that he did not know any South Asian people when he came up with the “not tremendously accurate” accent.

    In June, as the Black Lives Matter movement forced a review­ of racial depictions across the media, producers announced that The Simpsons would no longer have white actors voice non-white characters.

    It is not yet clear whether Apu and Dr Hibbert will be written out of future series or revoiced by new performers.

    In an interview with Matt Chorley on Times Radio on Monday, Shearer — who also plays Waylon Smithers, Principal Skinner and Reverend Lovejoy — said actors should be able to play characters outside their persona­l experience, noting that he also had nothing in common with Mr Burns and Ned Flanders.

    “I have a very simple belief about acting. The job of the actor is to play someone who they are not. That’s the gig, that’s the job description,” he said.

    He warned that diversity efforts were in danger of conflating “representation”, the important work of ensuring that the industry employs people and reflects the lives of different communit­ies, with on-screen performance.

    He declined to criticise the show directly, joking that “we don’t get paid by the voice” so he would not suffer financially from not playing Dr Hibbert.

    He said his favourite character was Monty Burns, the money-­hungry nuclear-power tycoon: “He’s pure evil, and nothing’s better­ than that for comedy.”

    The animated sitcom has run for 684 episodes over 31 series, spawning catchphrases such as “D’oh!” and “Eat my shorts”.

    The Times

  175. JC

    When you buy a lunchtime meal, such as the lunch rump,

    You devour a steak for lunch?. That’s kind of barbaric. Steak is an evening meal, FFS.

  176. Cassie of Sydney

    “Leaving aside the harbor, Melbourne is by far a much nicer looking city in the burbs. Sydney architecture is horrendous. I equally despise both CBD’s as they are really ugly.”

    Agree.

  177. Knuckle Dragger

    I think Gunner’s earlier points on bringing the ladeees to protest has merit.

    A Wall of Karens would be impressive.

    Loud too.

  178. Top Ender

    Andrews under siege as coronavirus spreads like a bushfire

    GRAHAM RICHARDSON
    Follow @SkyNewsRicho

    Daniel Andrews is besieged. He is surrounded. He is cut off on all sides by a disease which spreads faster than a bushfire.

    While regional Victoria remains fairly clear of any serious threat from COVID-19, the city of Melbourne is under sustained attack. Whole suburbs are under lockdown, but it will only take a few mugs — who think they can prove how smart they are by escaping — to make the predicament so much worse.

    It is a completely unprecedented problem. There is no rule book to turn to see how to fight it. “Suck it and see” is the course that must be followed.

    For perhaps the first time since he became Victorian Premier, the soothing voice and the calm delivery may not be enough. As long as Andrews can prevent panic he will well and truly be earning his salary.

    As time passes more frontline staff in the fight against this disease are falling victim to it. Nurses and doctors battle on, doing their jobs knowing they may also fall victim to this bug.

    We so often take their courage for granted but on this occasion their efforts should be celebrated. Though it has put considerable pressure on the availability of hospital beds, we are fortunate that this pressure is nowhere near the doomsday predictions of some.

    Given that it is reasonable to expect that the underlying health of people in southern Spain or northern Italy is akin to our own, it is difficult to understand why the numbers affected were so much worse over there.

    They enjoy first-world health systems too, which makes it even more difficult to understand.

    This is particularly so because I am informed by doctors that the disease hasn’t significantly mutated yet.

    Now, that is a sobering thought. What happens when it does?

    Our health system is the best in the world but no health system is built to withstand the onslaught of a pandemic. Perhaps we can look at what is going on in Melbourne as a trial run for what happens when this disease “does a runner”.

    Coronavirus may do the world one huge favour. It would appear that Donald Trump’s disastrous handling of the issue will make him a one-term US president and pave the way for Joe Biden’s ascension to the throne.

    While Biden is no Obama when it comes to his oratory, he is up against a man whose speeches will ever be remembered. Trump is a terrible speaker, so Americans will have to put up with mediocre political debates in this campaign. It will be a pretty dull run-up to the big day in November.

    As time has gone by I have come to admire the contributions of Ronald Reagan much more than when he was in power. His movie career may have been strictly B-grade but his presidency definitely scored an A. He did appoint and keep really talented people like Henry Kissinger around him.

    No one seeks to write down Reagan’s rule. He was a man who accomplished his mission.

  179. notafan

    I don’t listen to the radio ( unless passenger in car turns it on) or watch free to air TV. Try to make my life as advertisement free as possible.

    I buy quadrant but rarely read it, unless someone here puts a link to something of interest.

    Do read random articles in on line newspapers.

  180. rickw

    Top Ender’s Atomic Salvation is published in the Australia and the USA by Big Sky Publishing, and Casemate.

    Well said!

  181. gafa

    and have the media class is saying it’s not enough – more!
    Climate Change agenda. Destroy and discourage any business and industry away forever, reduce electricity consumption/need, demolish power stations….solar, wind, candles, utopia. The S.A. and Tas model.

  182. kaysee

    Radio 2GB is already losing listeners and companies who advertise on 2GB, even the most woke companies, won’t advertise on a radio station that has few listeners. What’s the point?

    Cassie, it is a very simple action for listeners to simply switch off that station. Just do that collectively, and send through the message to the network.

  183. Pedro the Loafer

    Perth’s 6PR has been taken over by Fairfax/Nein, and is slowly but surely turning to broadcasting non stop lefty drivel. Once the Perth taxi drivers’ primary source of news and conversation pieces with their passengers.

    It was once a great talkback station, full of funny brekky men, shit stirring shock jocks and excellent sports coverage.

    It is infested with annoying and whiny “radio journalists” who jump on every cause du jour like a seagull on a chip. Not an original thought among the lot of them.

    Especially annoying is the 3.00pm to 6.00pm mouth, Oliver Peterson who speed gabbles like teenager high on meth and finishes every sentence with an upward inflection. Dunno who gave this tool a job as a radio announcer.

    Running out of options.

  184. 1735099

    Yep.
    The toilet cleaner is triggered.
    Fitzgerald does it every time.
    There are (even now) a few from around Kingaroy who think that the sun shone out of Joh’s arse, but they’re gradually disappearing.
    I met him once when he visited the state school for kids with cerebral palsy at New Farm.
    We had the kids lined up in their wheelchairs on the verandah as Joh and entourage walked past.
    He was very uncomfortable, and had no idea how to talk to them.
    He said to one of the senior (verbal) kids “Have you been out in the sun today?”
    This lad, who was an expert at taking the Mickey, replied “I’m not a flamin’ pot plant”.
    It remains one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.

    Millennials have no idea who he was…..

  185. Pedro the Loafer

    Geez Numbers, it is long past your bedtime.
    The street lights came on ages ago.

  186. JC

    Cassie

    I received this in email today. This old architecture is magnificent and there are more than a few of these in Melbourne. The only downside in is the weather. I don’t mind the cold, but I have to have sun. Overcast gets me really down.

  187. rickw

    Wreck of the battleship Ise:

  188. This Ellen BS is a coordinated hitjob.

    Out of nowhere, everyone just hangs shit on her?

    Alyssa Milano was bitching she only has 1/3 of the listeners are Joe Rogan.

    She’s right, it’s a travesty, but not why she thinks so.

    I suspect it is some up and coming normie like Corden or Milano.

    Honestly, you’d rather put up with Ellen.

    Ellen is the devil, but Sandberg and Wokicki are just like Mother Theresa and Wonder Woman?

    I ain’t buying. I don’t need to try a shit pie to know it’s got shit in it.

  189. Cassie of Sydney

    “JC
    #3535719, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:27 pm
    Cassie

    I received this in email today. This old architecture is magnificent and there are more than a few of these in Melbourne. The only downside in is the weather. I don’t mind the cold, but I have to have sun. Overcast gets me really down.”

    I have always loved Melbourne. I am usually in Melbourne every year for Passover…but sadly not this year. The Jooooish community in Melbourne is very tight knit…there is a strong ghetto feeling (which I love).

  190. Cassie of Sydney

    “Pedro the Loafer
    #3535718, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:26 pm
    Geez Numbers, it is long past your bedtime.
    The street lights came on ages ago.”

    Methinks his wife has locked him out of the house.

  191. notafan

    Yes yes Graeme front line staff have ‘fallen victim’

    Are they in ICU, in hospital even, or just at home in isolation?

    Also Andrews was the one making doomsday predictions.

    And destroying people’s livelihoods for no good reason is a clear sign of panic.

    And you may not have noticed but in many countries including Spain and Italy the disease had already done a runner, so much so they’ve reopened their countries to tourists.

    Including Australians.

    Even people from Melbourne.

  192. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘He said to one of the senior (verbal) kids “Have you been out in the sun today?”
    This lad, who was an expert at taking the Mickey, replied “I’m not a flamin’ pot plant”.’

    Yes. Because all the wheelchair cerebral palsy kids say ‘flamin”.

    Did he really say those words, Liability Bob? But did he really say ‘flamin”?

    You’ve been reading the joke section of Australasian Post at the barber’s again, haven’t you?

  193. Welp

    That was not hard.

    This Ellen BS is a coordinated hitjob.

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/moment-fans-started-to-turn-on-ellen-degeneres/news-story/f152ce8e7759870b3832d4eddf9daef1

    After the interview with Johnson, it quickly emerged as to why DeGeneres missed the party.

    The 62-year-old was actually in Texas where she controversially sat next to former US president George W. Bush at an NFL game.

    The NFL game was a PR nightmare for DeGeneres, who was slammed for sitting next to Mr Bush, with many attacking the talk show host – a prominent gay, liberal and outspoken LGBT activist – for cosying up with the former Republican president, who once endorsed a constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage.

    Her crime was the heinous thoughtcrime of…tolerance! She had the chutzpah to be kind and tolerant of someone with a different opinion of her.

    This level of thoughtcrimeiness was not met by even the most fanatical of Nayzees.

  194. Yep.
    The toilet cleaner is triggered.

    You’re demented.
    You’re not even able to carry a thread of conversation.
    I cannot put it any plainer than that.
    I hope you receive the mental health intervention you so obviously need. asap.

    You don’t belong here, you belong on medication inside a closed facility.

  195. H B Bear

    … Oliver Peterson who speed gabbles like teenager high on meth and finishes every sentence with an upward inflection. Dunno who gave this tool a job as a radio announcer

    .

    Peterson is ex-ALPBC.

  196. feelthebern

    I think it’s the network dot.
    I read she’s on 50mill per year & they’re desperate to boot her for a cheaper alternative.

  197. Sinclair Davidson

    Until now, I never knew you were gay!

    I’m always very happy.

    Seriously – haven’t you seen the shirts I wear?

  198. lotocoti

    That hasn’t been approved by the Uniforms and Battledress Sub-committee yet.

    Teamed with the black barathea BD, it should have tactility up the wazoo.

  199. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3535688, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    Country Victoria is beautiful.

    Damned if I would live in Melbourne these days. Once the worlds best city

    I love getting up to the farm at Mansfield.

  200. I also identify as a person who cleans their toilets.

    *You, you, bath taking person who is such a girl he married one. GAAAY!*

    Spud never got over grade school insults.

  201. Knuckle Dragger

    Let’s just say, for argument’s sake, that a wheelchair-bound palsy teen was impersonating a raconteur at a 1960s toastmaster convention and actually said ‘I’m not a flamin’ pot plant.’

    Clearly, the best course of action for JBP would have been to take a bag of peanuts, jam them in the fork of a tree about six feet up and then say to the kid: ‘Hungry, are you?’

  202. Old School Conservative

    thefrollickingmole
    #3535066, posted on August 4, 2020 at 1:35 pm
    Also in bragging news Im now a certified Paramedic

    Well done.
    I’ve heard the course can be very difficult.
    Now to get on the road.

  203. Sinclair Davidson

    This Ellen BS is a coordinated hitjob.

    Out of nowhere, everyone just hangs shit on her?

    Wasn’t she exposed as being friends with Dubya Bush?

  204. Leigh Lowe

    kaysee

    #3535697, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    Sorry kaysee, I don’t listen to 2GB.

    Well done, LL. Part of the solution.

    Well, I live in Victoria, so I have to content myself with yelling at Neil Mitchell.
    .
    BTW, kaysee, any chance of getting back with the Sunshine Band?

  205. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I love getting up to the farm at Mansfield.’

    You spelled ‘Tarneit’ wrong.

  206. Jerry Stiller researched the meta role of Simple Jack for his son in Joh’s Queensland, whilst the movie role was portrayed in Arnold’s California.

    Both timeless States, and states of existence.

    It would have been amazing to see Carl Reiner and Don Rickles follow Jerry around in their wheelchairs too, writing his lines when he lost the edge to ad lib.

  207. JC

    I have always loved Melbourne. I am usually in Melbourne every year for Passover…but sadly not this year. The Jooooish community in Melbourne is very tight knit…there is a strong ghetto feeling (which I love).

    They all know each other

  208. Jo

    Bruce in WA, wasn’t John Burgess on 6PR. I used to listen to Watts and Martin. Knew Louis Beers aka King Billy Cokebottle. What was that dickhead on 6PR Yorkie or something, went friends restaurant had several bottles of Margeaux, wanted cut with soda. They were so stunned they did it.

  209. kaysee

    BTW, kaysee, any chance of getting back with the Sunshine Band?

    You want me to answer that, here, on a public forum? How dare you?

  210. Leigh Lowe

    The Jooooish community in Melbourne is very tight knit…there is a strong ghetto feeling (which I love).

    True.
    As you walk through East St Kilda you could just imagine that you were in Caulfield.
    .
    (We don’t travel far these days).

  211. You’ve been reading the joke section of Australasian Post at the barber’s again, haven’t you?

    Australasian Post, final edition printed in 2002 is found in contemporary barbershops due to the intervention of kickass timelord Joh Bjelke-Petersen.
    (Barbershops in Victoria receive their copies courtesy of Jeff Kennett)

  212. Leigh Lowe

    kaysee

    #3535747, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    BTW, kaysee, any chance of getting back with the Sunshine Band?

    You want me to answer that, here, on a public forum? How dare you?

    Sorry.
    Just dismiss me as another intrusive stalker
    … er … fan.

  213. feelthebern

    Ordered in a pizza tonight.
    Was super excited.
    A truffle extravaganza was expected.
    A chilli abomination arrived.
    Very disappointing.

  214. thefrollickingmole

    TE
    Only bit I’d quibble about is the Russkies.
    In the short time they were at war with Japan they kurbstomped them after transferring quite a bit of gear and troops Eastwards.
    Still couldn’t have invaded japan itself though as you point out.

  215. rickw

    More training material for those trapped in the Melbournibad Ghetto!

  216. notafan

    Actually that comment doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    Do people take their pot plants outside every day?

    Do teen-agers discuss the life and times of potted plants?

    There is however an obscure link between plants and hoes.

    What really struck me that numbers had ‘lined them up on the verandah’ like a display (of potted plants)

  217. 1735099

    You don’t belong here.

    You’re right about that – just slumming…

  218. Kenhell how soon can we get some of this cheap nuclear power?
    The aircon bill is killing me.
    Switch it on, power bill goes $$$$$$$
    Switch it off, places heats up & we all swelter.

  219. feelthebern

    Leigh Lowenstein, you know your yarmulke can be used as a face mask in a pinch.
    If the plod surprises you, just whip it off your scone & cover your face.

  220. Wasn’t she exposed as being friends with Dubya Bush?

    Yeah. How dare she! Her crime is tolerance.

    I think it’s the network dot.
    I read she’s on 50mill per year & they’re desperate to boot her for a cheaper alternative.

    I hope she just destroys them if that’s the case. You could see a billion dollar+ claim for damages off a single plaintiff. She has a decent claim to pure economic loss to my mind.

    Just think of the contingency and six minute increments.

    Works on contingency? No, money down!

    Go savage, Ellen. Screw them harder than Dr Stragelove’s survivor’s repopulating the earth.

  221. H B Bear

    Pedro the Loafer
    #3535718, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:26 pm
    Geez Numbers, it is long past your bedtime.
    The street lights came on ages ago.”

    Methinks his wife has locked him out of the house.

    Wireless in the hermetically sealed MX-5?

  222. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3535743, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    ‘I love getting up to the farm at Mansfield.’

    You spelled ‘Tarneit’ wrong.

    So badly sprung.
    And when I say “farm” it is more of a “grow-house” really.

  223. kaysee

    A fan. Well, now …….😊

  224. Infidel Tiger King

    Why? In bullet points please.

    Leaving aside the harbor, Melbourne is by far a much nicer looking city in the burbs. Sydney architecture is horrendous. I equally despise both CBD’s as they are really ugly.

    Melbourne’s once glorious suburbs are being demolished for dog boxes. It’s magnificent heritage bulldozed and turned into a Chinaman’s version of a French Chateau.

    Sydney is a shithole unless you are worth 8 figures.

  225. Cassie of Sydney

    “Wireless in the hermetically sealed MX-5?”

    Seems so. He’s not usually up so late…so something has happened.

  226. lotocoti

    Wireless in the hermetically sealed MX-5?

    Overdid the jelly shots at a door darkened RSL.

  227. feelthebern

    Sydney is a shithole unless you are worth 8 figures.

    Aren’t you a WA mining magnate?

  228. Bruce in WA

    I’m always very happy.

    Seriously – haven’t you seen the shirts I wear?

    Well … yeah.

    But the thick braces cover most of the pattern!

  229. notafan

    T

    Huge sign at local RE saying houses wanted.

    Another effect of the Pandanic, fewer properties on the market.

  230. feelthebern

    Roger Stone was a guest on The Anthony Cumia Show today on Compound Media.
    When he’s not playing the raconteur, he’s quite intelligent.
    He was discussing Nixon today amongst other things.

  231. Cassie of Sydney

    “Sydney is a shithole unless you are worth 8 figures.”

    Bern and I are in a nice part of Sydney…there are still nice spots left in Sydney

  232. feelthebern

    Yes, there are some nice little pockets.

  233. Cassie of Sydney

    “Roger Stone was a guest on The Anthony Cumia Show today on Compound Media.”

    I must watch…love Roger.

  234. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3535719, posted on August 4, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    Cassie

    I received this in email today. This old architecture is magnificent and there are more than a few of these in Melbourne.

    Houses like that are being bowled over so that Chunks can build out-of-proportion gauche faux chateaux.
    Fucking vandalism.

  235. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Actually that comment doesn’t make a lot of sense.’

    Of course it didn’t nota. It didn’t happen.

    The old ‘I’m not a flamin’ pot plant’ chestnut.

    Originally attributed to the US Marines in WW2, it is said.

  236. Top Ender

    Meanwhile in Tasmania, the Case of the Gun that Wasn’t.

    Can our Hero avoid being banged up?

    Is Warrane the worst suburb in Tasmania, full of derros and iced-up people who can’t see?

    Maybe. NOW READ ON!

    A MAN accused of pointing a sawn-off rifle at his mate has protested his innocence – claiming he wasn’t wielding a gun but simply a cut-down wooden blockbuster.

    Simon Wade – who goes by the nickname of “Woody” – claims his friend Luke David Buck – “Bucky” didn’t seem to recognise him when he drove into a Warrane street on February 20 last year.

    Mr Wade, 38, said he was working on a motorbike outside the Blyth Street home he shared with his mother when Mr Buck stopped a maroon car in the middle of the street.

    He said his mate – who he’d known since school – was agitated and swearing before pulling a sawn-off .22 rifle from his lap and pointing it at him.

    Mr Buck, 37, is currently on trial before a Supreme Court of Tasmania jury after pleading not guilty to one count of aggravated assault.

    On Tuesday, Mr Wade told the court that Mr Buck was “alright, he’s a friend”.

    “I just tried to calm him down,” he said.

    “I said ‘what are you doing mate, what are you doing?’ He just kept looking at me, he looked straight through me.

    “He said what’s your name, what’s your name? And that’s what I couldn’t understand because he knows me.

    “He’s usually fine, he’s usually good. That’s the only time I’ve seen him lose it like that.”

    Defence barrister Cameron Scott said there was no question Mr Buck was “the man in the car”, but said he was “adamant” he didn’t have a gun.

    “Everyone’s jumped the gun. They’ve seen a wooden object pointed out of a window and they’ve jumped the gun – pardon the pun,” he said.

    “This case is about the capacity of people to be mistaken.”

    Chief Justice Alan Blow explained to the jury that a threatening gesture could amount to an assault at law.

    The trial continues.

    THE MERCURY

  237. mh

    You devour a steak for lunch?. That’s kind of barbaric. Steak is an evening meal, FFS.

    JC, I thought you and Monty caught up for a lunchtime steak. I realise now it was an evening meal.

  238. notafan

    I know it.

    There is a new Chinese Provincial a couple of streets from me.

    Just about covers the entire block.

    We are supposed to be a leafy but at current rate the only trees left will be the ones on the nature strips.

  239. gafa

    death duties, always state affairs

    Introducing Death Duties may be how they’ll help pay for this mess!
    As someone often says, the Boomers deserve it!
    Could be a popular policy.

  240. Jo

    Rickw, I went on the Ise, helicopter destroyer several years ago. Looks like a small aircraft carrier. Only euro on board.

  241. Cassie of Sydney

    Bern..do you listen to Michael Malice on youtube? He’s great….a true libertarian.

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