Tuesday Forum: August 4, 2020

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  1. MemoryFault

    Hale and well met, Rick.
    Continuing with Creedance, here is a song that I think aptly describes our immediate future.

  2. Knuckle Dragger

    That clip of Biden people put up overnight was terrible. Just terrible.

    It must be the result of several hours’ practice pre-interview, followed by a bit of extra toothy white stuff and a belt of meth just before the cameras went on.

    Just an old man saying random words, held aloft by the Dems just prior to ritual slaughter either at the hands of 45 in the debates or his own team prior to the election, thus allowing them to trade on a previously-unavailable sympathy vote plus surprise candidate-free-of-privilege.

  3. Knuckle Dragger

    On a brighter note, I very much enjoyed Top Ender’s link overnight on Melbourne Uni sacking 450 academics and staff who wouldn’t forgo a scheduled 2.2% pay rise.

    Their bubble just went *pop*.

  4. MemoryFault

    Another one for you, Rick.
    Same message, softer delivery.

  5. rickw

    The British angle on the delivery of the A bombs to Hiroshima and Nagasaki:

  6. rickw

    Whoa! John MacArthur goes rouge, Grace Community Church NOT closing down for COVID-19:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AyZjLN7q15I

  7. Knuckle Dragger

    Repost.

    This is Tezza from the thread dealing specifically with the Vicco gummint delaying its enquiry into the mad rooters guarding hotels in the Melbourne CBD recently.

    ‘Welcome to the first pandemic to be confronted by ‘woke’ post-modern policies based on not quarantining the infected, but instead appealing to a sense of community identity that has been dissolved in a toxic soup of government-sponsored identity politics, victimhood, and appeals to ‘human rights’ to exercise while infectious (unless you live in a welfare housing tower).

    ‘There has never been a more stupid and hysterical miscarriage of policy at a state level, abetted by a ‘Prime Minister’ who has demoted himself to being one more idiot among the State and Territory idiots, effectively carrying their water for them.’

    Bravo, sir.

  8. H B Bear

    On a brighter note, I very much enjoyed Top Ender’s link overnight on Melbourne Uni sacking 450 academics and staff who wouldn’t forgo a scheduled 2.2% pay rise.

    Must be a member of the same union that represented Holden wukkas. Wukkas united will never be … something or other.

  9. H B Bear

    Unis will resemble The Hunger Games for a while unless you are a $1m+ VC.

  10. H B Bear

    Even they might have to take a haircut.

  11. calli

    Their bubble just went *pop*.

    Only some are “all in this together”.

  12. calli

    Thanks, rickw. Didn’t know about the Black Lancasters. Interesting stuff.

  13. One kind of terrorism –

    Investigators in U.S. Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement are accustomed to making arrests without warrants, and then holding people for long periods of time without filing charges, and longer periods before a court hearing is granted. That’s because the usual constitutional protections that apply in criminal cases don’t help immigrants jailed pending possible deportation, a civil charge. The results of that are often shocking. Occasionally, the federal courts intervene, but the immigration law that Congress passed in 1996 (and is incapable of changing) sharply limits what a judge can do to protect detainees’s constitutional right to due process.

  14. Struth

    The ones that are all in this together should be arrested.

  15. bespoke

    So basically what every Customs department do around the world.

  16. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘That’s because the usual constitutional protections that apply in criminal cases don’t help immigrants jailed pending possible deportation, a civil charge.’

    Which is because they’re illegal border jumpers landing in someone else’s country without asking for, nor being given permission to do so, and then demanding voting rights and free money.

    More of the millions of people clamouring to get into the bastard, worst-joint-ever US, I guess.

    Then again:

    ‘I couldn’t care less what happens in the land of the shooting spree.’ And:

    ‘I couldn’t be bothered to be consistent.’

  17. Struth

    Illegal immigrants have no rights to not be arrested.
    They have committed a crime being there.
    Suck it up conscription Karen.

  18. Herodotus

    Nikki Stabba: Chalmers and Frydenburg level-pegging in capability.
    I don’t think Josh is that poor!

  19. Herodotus

    Dual purpose cover photo, Hiroshima and/or Beirut.

  20. bespoke

    Suck it up conscription Karen

    🤣😂

  21. Struth

    Hitler believed white skin was a privilege.

  22. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘conscription Karen’

    Gold.

    ‘I demand to speak to the manager about this appalling state of affairs!’
    ‘Hold, please….’

    ‘This is Mr Menzies. How can I help you?’

  23. Siltstone

    ALPBC website fails to mention Melbourne University staff refused to forego 2% salary rise in order to save jobs.

  24. Struth

    If a thirty year old dies of covid and by now you don’t know everything about him and also heard his friend’s sorrow filled tweets read out……you know it didn’t happen.

  25. rickw

    Suck it up conscription Karen.

    Hilarious!!

  26. notafan

    Re libertarians

    I’m guessing ‘push back like conservatives and rightists’

    Using their words.

  27. rickw

    If a thirty year old dies of covid and by now you don’t know everything about him and also heard his friend’s sorrow filled tweets read out……you know it didn’t happen.

    Yep, attempting to plug a big hole in the narrative, virtually no one under 70 dies of this “deadly pandemic”.

  28. Calli:

    #3537048, posted on August 5, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    Did someone mention Orica?
    Now that would make those Birubi mortars look puny.

    My assumption is the plant was in place first, then the suburb. Has there been an offer from the community to Orica for pay for some of the costs at least to defray Oricas expenses in movinng the stockpile?
    If the stockpile goes, then the property values would rise so there should be no grounds for asking say $10k for each property.
    And who will pay for trucking the product through the city streets to the port?
    Will the company get permission to cart ten ton loads of the product to the wharves?

  29. MemoryFault

    I’m guessing ‘push back like conservatives and rightists’
    Using their words.

    In that case, you’ll need this.

  30. Struth

    Within two to three days you’ll start noticing certain things in short supply.

  31. notafan

    Like what and precisely where struth?

    If you are going to be nostradamus you need to be less vague.

    Are you talking Bunnings sausages?

    Jayco caravans?

    Western Australian truffles?

    People need to know.

  32. notafan

    It’s not impossible for someone in their thirties to die, like that US army veteran who was online refusing to wear a mask.

    It’s far more likely that he had significant comorbities.

    A relly mentioned someone they know casually had a relative die and she (the relative of the deceased) said that it was far more likely to have been their heart disease. I asked them to find out how old the person was. At that stage Pandanic had announced men aged between 40 and 80. Still waiting and it might be a while to find out because of latest lockdown.

  33. Entropy

    Dairy products would be a big one. Not fresh milk, but cheeses, yoghurts etc.

  34. Lizzie:

    Have my fingers crossed for our daughter in Qld who is third trimester pregnant because if she has any difficulties I won’t be able to get up to help.

    I may be able to help smuggle her over the border, Lizzie.
    Do you reckon she would fit into a roo or pigskin?

  35. Today’s Toowoomba Chronicle –

    Good border call: Desperate urgent measures to keep Queenslanders safe.

  36. Within two to three days you’ll start noticing certain things in short supply.

    Depends what you read.
    If it’s this site, it’s sanity.

  37. notafan

    Last time was because stocking up by consumers. Suggested that this might be the case again.

    Entropy, is that because manufacturing had slowed down?

  38. Bruce of Newcastle

    My assumption is the plant was in place first, then the suburb.

    Winston – that is usually the way. I call them antibodies.

    Some industry gets built, then housing for wukkas is built nearby because land is cheap. The wukkas make money then leave for nicer places. The houses are rented out, and since they’re next to a dirty industry/airbase/coal loader the rent is cheap.

    The people who live in cheap rental wukka type housing are often people on benefits who have a lot of spare time and vote Green. Next thing you know they’ve all formed up into No Lead groups, No PFAS groups and No Coal Loader groups. Lawfare commences paid for by legal aid. And so it goes until someone rolls over and gives out compo or whatever.

  39. feelthebern

    I see it but I can’t believe it.
    Biden has tweeted about stricter gun laws.
    I thought it would be some other Dem sending up the balloon to see the reaction.
    But no, Grandpa Simpson tweeted it.
    The msm face a conundrum.
    Amplify it because they hold the same position so dearly.
    Or smother it because it’s the single biggest vote killer in this 2A election.

  40. feelthebern

    If it’s this site, it’s sanity.

    Don’t let Lennie near any puppies or young ladies in bright summer dresses.

  41. notafan

    Closed thomastown plant for two weeks for deep cleaning after covid19 cases, now affected by 33% rule.

  42. Entropy

    I’m only guessing nota. The essential worker rules on border crossings look to be tighter than last time, so there might be less transport of goods. Most dairy is Victorian.

  43. Mater

    Depends what you read.
    If it’s this site, it’s sanity.

    Strip the facade off a Lefty, and you’re left with nothing but a steaming pile of hate.

    Good morning, Bob.

  44. feelthebern

    Alex Berenson was the ex NY Times journo that JC was the first to pick up at the start of all this horse shit.
    In a new development overnight, Bethany McLean has started to promote his work.
    It’s one thing to have Tucker pushing your work.
    It’s another when you have an ultra leftie, incredibly respected financial columnist/journalist/author doing the same.

  45. notafan

    Cheers Entropy

    NSW and SA stopping us poxy Mexicans from crossing the border.

  46. Struth.

    Notafan you thick woman, I’m not repeating myself, I’ve told you why, experts have told you why, Credlin has told you why, and you linking to a bloody ABC story….you need your arse kicked.
    I’ve told you why.
    Maybe you are too stupid to consider the fact that if the ABC are even talking about it and trying to play it down, you might want to put down your “anything struth says I’ll mock and oppose because he shits me” stance, and get to the shops.
    But you already have, haven’t you?

    I can’t tell you what is going to go first because that depends on government decree as to what businesses are closed, scaled back, and how transport is effected.
    But there will be shortages.

    And I won’t need your two weeks.
    And it won’t be just Melbourne.

    Thanks for supporting this shit Notafan.

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    Voddie is a very good preacher and is well worth a look

    Seconded! Here’s a page for some of his teaching. I think I’ve only heard one or two of his sermons but he was very good.

  48. Filbert

    Hey, DanXiMan!
    In one word, how would you describe your self-inflicted, dystopian nightmare?
    Oh yeah

  49. Twostix

    Dr Macau encouraged meat processors who usually exported their product to consider selling it to the domestic market.

    “Will they prioritise their export contracts and what they are sending overseas — and usually they make big bucks doing that — or will they prioritise the local market and keep the supermarkets and the local public supply?” he said.

    Irish ministers made the same appeals to british owned farms and grain wholesalers 😂

    I hope you like the taste of bark!

  50. notafan

    Forgive my scepticism Mr new world order sovereign citizen.

    You’re the one relying on information in the msm. I don’t believe there will be widespread shortage in Melbourne, as you claimed on Sunday or Monday night.

    And as the ABC credlin and other outlets are making the same doomsday predictions as you I guess you’re in bed with them.

    My doubts are based on logic. There are already hiccups because processing plants have had to close for deep cleaning. Your premise was supply chain failure, specifically in Melbourne because ‘trucks not being on the road because flat tyres, no pink tops and no backloading ‘ which is not the same as restrictions on processing plants operating or interstate border restrictions on truck drivers.

    Now you try your usual walk back.

  51. Filbert

    Hey Sniffy,
    Got a copy of your book mate.
    Rivetting fiction.

  52. notafan

    And in New Zealand they have excess pork they need to consume domestically.

    It’s a topsy turvy world atm.

  53. Strip the facade off a Lefty, and you’re left with nothing but a steaming pile of hate.

    I’m not a “Lefty”, whatever that is, and I don’t have a facade.
    All my details are available and transparent.
    You, old mate, hide behind yours, which is anonymous.
    What do you have to hide?
    What are you frightened of?

  54. Filbert

    Facts frighten you, do they Sniffy.
    That’s why you’ve lived a life of lies.
    And lie here, day after day.

  55. Struth.

    I’m not walking back from things I never said.
    You’re so dizzy with hate, you can’t work out what the fuck I said.
    And you don’t care.

    Read the constitution yet, or is it too hard for you?

  56. Mater

    I’m not a “Lefty”, whatever that is.

    Don’t give me that bait-and-switch shit.
    Not only are you of the Left, you know exactly what it is. You’ve defended ‘them’ many times over the years.

    1735099
    #1047595, posted on October 26, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    The Australian Right has a rich and colorful history of racist sentiment. The difference between the Right and the Left in this country on the issue is that the Left has never used it as a political wedge, whereas the Right consistently and thoroughly has.

    And:

    I don’t have a facade

    Not any more, you don’t. Mission accomplished!

  57. Twostix

    Photos of empty supermarket shelves all over the place, The ABC “plenty of gruel for everyone”.

    The politburo will start blaming hoarders and wreckers for the non existent food shortage next. As night follows day.

  58. notafan

    You said that Melbourne’s supply chain would collapse within two weeks because Dan had closed down tyre repair stuff.

    JC pointed out that that was not the case because on the essential list, which you clearly hadn’t read, so you moved on to bloke attempting delivery needed to dash into safety gear shop because wrong coloured shirt.

    It’s all there for anyone that can be bothered reading your blustering.

    Yes the constitution is in a teeny tiny booklet. I used to have several copies.

    You’ve been told you’re wrong on the quarantine matter by several people. It hasn’t made one iota of difference to you.

    I’m still loving the Dover Beach put down.

    Talk about class clown.

  59. notafan

    Where are these empty supermarket shelves?

    There was very gaps in fruit and vegetables and fresh meat late Sunday , not surprisingly but nothing like what happened earlier this year.

  60. rickw:
    Utterly unaware of the Black Lancaster story.
    Thanks heaps.

  61. Twostix

    Let’s get this straight.

    The CCP loyalist Victorian state government has placed Victoria under martial law, has no limits on its power at the moment, has ordered hundreds of thousands of businesses to close and destaff…but it can’t direct food companies to fulfill their domestic contracts before their Chinese contracts.

    Victorians literally lap this shit up.

    😂

  62. Struth.

    A study in hysteria.

    In aggression.
    In idiocy.

    Forgive my scepticism Mr new world order sovereign citizen.

    I never said I was a sovereign citizen, but together as a nation we are sovereign.

    You’re the one relying on information in the msm. I don’t believe there will be widespread shortage in Melbourne, as you claimed on Sunday or Monday night.

    Not at all, I’m relying on my own lived experience and called it out BEFORE the MSM did.

    And as the ABC credlin and other outlets are making the same doomsday predictions as you I guess you’re in bed with them.

    Everyone is wrong except for Nota.
    How dare we point out reality to her.

    My doubts are based on logic.

    Your doubts are based on urban ignorance and emotion.

    There are already hiccups because processing plants have had to close for deep cleaning. Your premise was supply chain failure, specifically in Melbourne because ‘trucks not being on the road because flat tyres, no pink tops and no backloading ‘ which is not the same as restrictions on processing plants operating or interstate border restrictions on truck drivers.

    No they are your words.

    Those small things can all add up, my point was, and as an example I quoted that a closed furniture factory can effect food supply (and if you can’t work out why, I explained it back there as well) and because Melbourne is THE outbound freight terminal of Australia.
    The biggest port.
    I gave you examples talking about Shepparton producers and what the big transport mobs do and won’t do, I spelled it all out before the “experts” said the same thing and before Credlin used what they said.

    You’re a spiteful word twisting moron, who hysterically supported the introduction of tyranny into this country.
    And you did it with such accusatory viciousness, and vileness, while you pompously pretend to be some sort of church attending Catholic saint.
    You’re the worst type of hypocrite there is.
    Now fuck off, you are boring me.

  63. Struth.

    I’m not a “Lefty”, whatever that is, and I don’t have a facade.

    Couldn’t find a Nazi in Germany after they surrendered.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    Struth

    #3537217, posted on August 6, 2020 at 6:55 am

    Within two to three days you’ll start noticing certain things in short supply.

    If you are going to be a prophet in a competitive marketplace it is best to keep it vague.

  65. Struth.

    A competitive market place.
    FMD, what you are smoking, Frank?

  66. notafan

    What we don’t want; more interference by Dan Andrews.

    What we do have confidence in; private enterprise acting in their own best interest .

  67. rickw

    Those small things can all add up, my point was, and as an example I quoted that a closed furniture factory can effect food supply (and if you can’t work out why, I explained it back there as well) and because Melbourne is THE outbound freight terminal of Australia.

    Tightly coupled supply chains.

  68. Like Knuckles (at 5.57), I was struck by the wisdom of Tezza’s pithy characterisation of the causes of the dissolution of community sentiment. I would respectfully add that the rise of identity politics is built on the notion that we are a multicultural – rather than a multi-ethnic – society. Many, and in some cases it seems all, in the distinct ethnic groups, reject the notion that they have any obligation to the larger population.

    I am afraid (for my successors) that we are stuck with this.

    In the thread to which Tezza contributed, the consensus was that the Victorian Health Minister of Greek ancestry would be sacked at some point. I doubt that. Victorian politicians of all stripes play to the large Greek community in Melbourne.

  69. Mother Lode

    On a brighter note, I very much enjoyed Top Ender’s link overnight on Melbourne Uni sacking 450 academics and staff who wouldn’t forgo a scheduled 2.2% pay rise.

    Must be a member of the same union that represented Holden wukkas. Wukkas united will never be … something or other.

    The lesson that will be taken from this is the urgency of getting all academics in the union and all obediently doing as the union asks – they would not have dared sack all the academics if they had all demanded the increase.

    Any any errant individual polluting the whole, any impure grain that would leech through the concrete and diminish the cohesion of the structure, must be kept away or, if found late, scooped up and disposed of – so the union can face up to its foes as a full and pure blockhead.

  70. rickw

    Some industry gets built, then housing for wukkas is built nearby because land is cheap. The wukkas make money then leave for nicer places. The houses are rented out, and since they’re next to a dirty industry/airbase/coal loader the rent is cheap.

    When I worked at Cairns Airport I found out one of my guys was the leading proponent of the local airport anti noise group. Brought a cheap house near the end of the runway and got a job at the airport!!

  71. mh

    1735099
    #3537244, posted on August 6, 2020 at 7:42 am

    Thanks Bob!

  72. Struth.

    There is just fact.
    Let me put it in simple terms for you morons.
    It’s not prophecy to state that if a somebody doesn’t produce something, you can’t consume it.
    It’s not prophecy to state that which has not been produced cannot be transported by the transporter who would usually transport it.
    It is not prophecy to state that the transporter works in both directions, and may not be able to transport in either direction if either direction is lost to him.
    These are supply chain facts.
    They only appear as prophecy to those who wish to mock facts.

    Yet Nostrastruth will make another prediction, I’m about to have a shower, and I predict that when I stand under the shower and turn the taps on I’m going to get wet.

    Pure prophecy.
    You embittered morons.

  73. Boambee John

    I’m not a “Lefty”, whatever that is, and I don’t have a facade.

    The bin chicken is whatever it is convenient to be at any particular time. Often he believes himself to be several different things in just a single day.

  74. mh

    Struth, what are the current regulations for showering?

  75. Leigh Lowe

    Struth.

    #3537266, posted on August 6, 2020 at 8:25 am

    A competitive market place.
    FMD, what you are smoking

    Good morning Captain Literal.
    OK.
    If there are a lot of prophets making dire predictions those making very specific short-term predictions will be sorted out by the punters. Those keeping it vague can fumble along.
    Well done you.

  76. Struth.

    Struth, what are the current regulations for showering?

    Before Multiculturalism or after?

  77. Leigh Lowe

    Yet Nostrastruth will make another prediction, I’m about to have a shower, 

    Remember to hang onto the safety rails, and don’t get out of the plastic chair until nurse arrives.

  78. Tom

    Within two to three days you’ll start noticing certain things in short supply.

    Stocked up the freezer yesterday with $100 worth of beef, lamb and chicken from my favourite butcher in readiness for next week’s price hikes after the fascist central planners in Spring Street decided to cut meat production by a third.

  79. Leigh Lowe

    I predict ..

    ..Obadiah, his servants. There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi– with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o’clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that, in that time, shall the third one…

    Are there any Cyrils here?

  80. Diogenes

    Those small things can all add up

    And do.

    For the second month in a row I have had to ring 6-8 pharamacies to see who has stock of my commonly prescribed blood pressure tablets. Got the last packet at the 8th pharmacy I tried. If I had struck out there I was going to ring the quack for a script for something else. When talking to the pharmacist she said another of my meds (prostrate) is becoming more difficult to source with pharmacies being limited in the number they can order.

  81. Struth.

    Good morning Captain Literal.
    OK.
    If there are a lot of prophets making dire predictions those making very specific short-term predictions will be sorted out by the punters. Those keeping it vague can fumble along.
    Well done you.

    That may be how you lead your life, you show that every day Frank.
    Some of us don’t give a shit about what fuckwits think of us.

    We’re all going to start running out of stuff.
    The most draconian lock down ever put on a nation is done right over it’s main industrial and biggest port city.
    WTF do you think will happen, you gherkin?

    Every day the insanity of denialism is gobsmacking.

  82. Top Ender

    Down in his Qld basement Kevin Rudd plots every day to try to remain in the public eye. A growing problem is the young won’t recognise him, and this too as a problem gets bigger every day.

    What do do?

    Maybe writing letters to every newspaper around the country will work? Any topic, but the main rationale is polishing his own legend. This one today in the NT News:

    I SHARE Matt Cunningham’s dismay about Australia’s failure to meet several of the Closing the Gap targets implemented by my government, but it’s disappointing that his analysis overlooked a key reason behind our nation’s patchy success over recent years.

    Readers would well remember Tony Abbott’s 2014 budget, which violated almost every promise he made in his election campaign against my Labor government. He announced plans to slash health and education budgets, abolish bulk-billing, raise university fees and shred the overseas aid budget (effectively ceding Australian influence in the Pacific to China).

    What received less coverage was an announcement of page 185 of Paper Two: a “rationalisation” of Indigenous programs that cut $534.4 million over five years, and another $15 million cut to the National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples.

    The reality is you will never close the gap by cutting half-a-billion dollars in funding for Indigenous programs.

    This record makes Scott Morrison’s decision to single-out Abbott for special praise on Indigenous affairs all the more baffling.

    Kevin Rudd, Sunshine Coast, Qld

  83. Farmer Gez

    Twostix
    #3537245, posted on August 6, 2020 at 7:47 am
    Dr Macau encouraged meat processors who usually exported their product to consider selling it to the domestic market.

    Now let’s see – you have a highly lucrative contract to supply meat to the US and you know that many other companies would readily take that contract, both domestic and foreign competitors.

    Red meat and most poultry meat isn’t imported into Australia because it’s simply cost prohibitive and some counties have quarantine issues due to disease.

    Meat, with the exception of processed pork, is a home game and will always be there. Which to choose?

    The Perfesser is talking absolute bullshit, but the type of BS the ABC seeks out to calm the rabble as the tyrant calls the tune.

  84. Struth.

    Remember to hang onto the safety rails, and don’t get out of the plastic chair until nurse arrives.

    knowing my luck the nurses name would be Barry.

  85. Johno

    Transport margins are slim and depend on back loads to continue. If the back loads dry up, then the costs of transport will go up and the extra costing will pass on to the consumer. This will be the new normal until all this garbage subsides.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Tom

    #3537289, posted on August 6, 2020 at 8:45 am

    Within two to three days you’ll start noticing certain things in short supply.

    Stocked up the freezer yesterday with $100 worth of beef, lamb and chicken from my favourite butcher 

    This will probably advantage small butchers (for red mear) if you think about the level of processing they do in-house as compared to supermarkets.

  87. Struth.

    No Dunny rolls in Woolies already up here again.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Struth.

    #3537298, posted on August 6, 2020 at 8:49 am

    No Dunny rolls in Woolies already up here again

    Jeez.
    What are you going to write your daily manifesto on now?

  89. Cassie of Sydney

    “I’m not a “Lefty”, whatever that is, and I don’t have a facade.”

    He was obviously locked out again last night.

  90. Struth.

    Transport margins are slim and depend on back loads to continue. If the back loads dry up, then the costs of transport will go up and the extra costing will pass on to the consumer. This will be the new normal until all this garbage subsides.

    Don’t get too technical with them here Johnno, this is a blog full of economists and other various smarty pants.

  91. Farmer Gez

    This will probably advantage small butchers (for red mear) if you think about the level of processing they do in-house as compared to supermarkets.

    Maybe Leigh but most butchers get their carcasses from big abattoirs.

  92. Struth.

    Jeez.
    What are you going to write your daily manifesto on now?

    Don’t panic Frank, I’ll get it to you somehow.
    Just have a bex and a lie down, she’ll be right.

  93. Johno

    The constitution has always been open to interpretation by the High Court. When the High Court is saturated by “Progressives” you will get “Progressive” interpretation of the document. Lionel Murphy said The High Court makes more law than Parliament. What the Constitution says in regard to any matter is not how the Court will interpret it.
    Never presume The Court is impartial or is acting in your best interests, all law is eventually hostage to the whims of contemporary interpretation.

  94. Old School Conservative

    My assumption is the plant was in place first, then the suburb

    Just like the Newington Armament Depot mentioned overnight.
    It was disappeared to allow the Olympics to go ahead without worry so I assume this facility will be moved at some time too.

  95. You’ve defended ‘them’ many times over the years.

    I have no idea who “them” is.
    The totalitarian mindset never stops trying to find someone (or something) to fear.
    If there is no enemy, one has to be concocted.
    The CCP and Dettol Donny are as one on this.
    First you divide – then you rule.
    It was forever thus…..

  96. Farmer Gez

    What are you going to write your daily manifesto on now?

    A Sheep’s hide with a thumbnail dipped in tar

    Struth of the Overflow.

  97. Top Ender

    $2 million to go to Beirut explosion assistance.

    According to some reports it was a mix of fireworks stored nearby, and the ammonium nitrate store which went bang together.

    How many Aussie businesses teetering on the edge could $2m help?

  98. Geriatric Mayfly

    The British angle on the delivery of the A bombs to Hiroshima and Nagasaki:

    And yet another angle at bbc.com The Congo would now be a touch of paradise, if only the Manhattan Project had kept its colonial paws off the uranium that was found there. Patrice Lumumba would still be the duly elected President, conflict an historical accident and the mineral wealth of the nation endowing the populace with a standard of living unknown in Africa. The article goes on to say that the Uranium mine should always be mentioned in the same breath as Hiroshima and Nagasaki as flagbearers of doom.

  99. No Dunny rolls in Woolies already up here again.

    And

    Stocked up the freezer yesterday with $100 worth of beef, lamb and chicken from my favourite butcher

    The lower brain takes over again.
    The behaviour of posters like these – “stocking up” – is what causes the shortages.

  100. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe Leigh but most butchers get their carcasses from big abattoirs.

    Yes.
    But as I understand it, the restrictions are on staffing, not on output.

    You can reduce staffing in areas of butchering to smaller cuts and sell more full or half carcases.

    Yeah, I know, there are downstream storage problems but it is not necessarily a 33% cut in output.
    Also, the cuts are from “peak capacity”.
    There is a yuuuge works near us which has had recent drop-offs in export trade to Asia.
    Their reduction from that peak may well mean no significant change in domestic supply.

    We’ll see.

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Poor Arky. He’s got a problem with his eye, seems like an infection of the optic nerve but the ”experts” are still investigating.

    Miserable for you Arky, so hope it is on the mend. With Gab and CL on the case for extra healing, you can’t go wrong. 🙂

    Winston, better to smuggle me up there than my preggers daughter down here; we are expecting the new bub to need an immediate kidney operation so the other grandma up there will be minding the two little ones and holding the fort with the new bub when both come home, but if she can’t manage for some reason Hairy and I have offered our services. Just remember, we said as we kissed her goodbye on our recent visit, one phone call and we will both be up on the next plane to help out and offer emotional support. Can’t do that now. Palacechook’s need to win an election and thus her slamming of the border doors shut again have caused this sort of worry to many Queensland families.

    Meanwhile, our son is doing sterling work on Twitter running the case against lockdowns. He’s a millennial through and through, vaguely greenwashed, but says he’s now discovering his libertarian side. He puts his generation’s discovery of this ability to critique the powers-that-be at 25% only so far, but more, he says, are agreeing with him daily. I text back approvingly when he sends me his latest successful tweet being forwarded widely on that platform. There is some good in Covid as a consciousness raiser.

  102. Leigh Lowe

    A Sheep’s hide with a thumbnail dipped in tar

    Struth of the Overflow

    Two-thirds of a sheep’s hide under current rules.

  103. Cassie of Sydney

    “Kevin Rudd, Sunshine Coast, Qld”

    Could that be the same Kevin Rudd….

    Architect of Pink Bats, school halls, dumped by his own party ten years ago.
    Married to his fat missus…Therese…a woman who built her multi-million dollar business whilst Kevin was Wayne Goss’ Chief of Staff…hmmm.
    Kevin Rudd…..he and his fat wife Therese have just bought a 17 million mansion on the Sunshine Coast beachfront despite both Kevvie and Fatty wife daily shrieking and spruiking rising sea levels, climate change and various other climate related catastrophes. But then again…perhaps the seas won’t rise on the Sunshine Coast.

    Kevin Rudd, Sunshine Coast, Qld….a perpetual narcissist and a mediocre one at that.

  104. Farmer Gez

    Even if the deaths in the US reached 200,000 that would be 0.061% of the population.

    Good on Trump for talking it up rather than the doom crap preached here.

  105. Struth.

    Transport margins are slim and depend on back loads to continue. If the back loads dry up, then the costs of transport will go up and the extra costing will pass on to the consumer. This will be the new normal until all this garbage subsides.

    And as it’s usually the trip IN to Melbourne done at backload rates, if the outbound freight isn’t available that price will skyrocket if that run is empty.

    Here’s an example.
    Out of Melb, general freight to Perth, was about 5 grand per trailer back in the early nineties.
    Backloading out of Perth at the time was either wool or bottles from a glass factory, bugger all else.
    8oo bucks if you were lucky, same distance back.

    Melbourne gets supplied by backloading rates.
    To not get a load out of Melbourne back, then, would mean I’d be looking for 6 grand a trailer inbound.

    Just a simple example based on working out of Melbourne many years ago, but same rules apply.

  106. Bruce of Newcastle

    And yet another angle at bbc.com The Congo would now be a touch of paradise, if only the Manhattan Project had kept its colonial paws off the uranium that was found there.

    This BBC?

    BBC has become utterly divisive, corrosive, and self-serving – just like Reith feared (4 Aug)

    The BBC, which is currently shamefully attempting to weigh-off the costs of its years of sprawling obesity and highly-politicised self-indulgence by threatening British pensioners.

    All three million of them.

    The first letters warning the elderly and perhaps infirm went out today demanding £157.50 in the midst of one of the gravest crises Britain has faced since the war.

    The war many of those the corporation is currently pursuing like a grubby loan shark, fought in.

    Kowtow to the glorious BBC, peasants.

  107. Farmer Gez

    Two-thirds of a sheep’s hide under current rules.

    He only needs the back end Leigh.
    Either a full stop or an exclamation mark supplied free.

  108. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Interesting that the two sons of my first marriage, gen Xers and nothing like as successful as their two half-sibs, and with many more socio-genetic emotional problems, are also moving, impelled by Covid nonsense, from the leftist positioning they inherited from their father, and me (before I saw the light and left the left).

  109. Dr Faustus

    Victoria’s work permit scheme has now begun, with fines of $100,000 for businesses and $20,000 for workers who try to cheat the system under harsh stage four coronavirus lockdown.

    The fines apply to employers who issue permits to employees who don’t meet the requirements of the scheme or otherwise flout the rules. Workers who are caught travelling to or from work without their papers face on-the-spot fines of up to $1652.

    Ve haff vays off making you not verk…
    #tryputtingthisonebackinitsbox

  110. Leigh Lowe

    Gonna need a bigger sheepskin.

  111. Struth.

    Struth of the Overflow

    Yes I am in Qld and you don’t know where I are.

  112. Good morning all.
    I note that the supply chain is still being spoken about. A point I would think would be raised is what supply is there of the blokes driving the freight? When they come into the shop, they bemoan that they are driving non stop for 2 weeks before heading home for a couple of days, only to repeat the cycle. That’s because there are drivers chucking it in.
    Take old mate yesterday. Grain from Wycheproof down to Geelong, unload, hook up fertiliser to take back up to Swan Hill, unload then back to Wycheproof to do the same today.
    Went to a BWS yesterday. Very few slabs of beer compared to what is normal, because the delivery needed a driver which was yet to be found at late notice. And all drivers have one bloke in mind when venting their fury.

  113. Bruce of Newcastle

    While I’m on such things I was amused by the New York Times doing a little airbrushing:

    Satire becomes real life as NYT publishes actual communist propaganda (5 Aug)

    On September 27, 2017, the satirical People’s Cube ran a piece, “The New York Times, organ of the Communist Party.”

    This week, the Washington Free Beacon confirmed it.

    The Beacon reported, “The New York Times quietly deleted hundreds of advertorials that the Chinese Communist Party paid to publish on its website.

    You can’t make this up: the NYT has been running hundreds of CCP paid stories.
    And has now made them all to go away. Hail Xi!

  114. Sorry yes driver picked up fertiliser in Melbourne after taking grain to Geelong

  115. Leigh Lowe

    And all drivers have one bloke in mind when venting their fury.

    Frank Thring?

  116. Dr Faustus

    According to some reports it was a mix of fireworks stored nearby, and the ammonium nitrate store which went bang together.

    The Big Question.
    Does Orica store fireworks with its AN prill?

    If so, does it keep the lid on the box?

  117. Leigh Lowe

    Sorry yes driver picked up fertiliser in Melbourne after taking grain to Geelong

    Shoulda gone to Pivot in Geelong.
    (If it still exists).

  118. incoherent rambler

    A few people here will end up with egg on their face.
    Egg, please remember to fart.

  119. jo

    Knuckle Dragger
    #3537191, posted on August 6, 2020 at 5:57 am

    Repost.

    This is Tezza from the thread dealing specifically with the Vicco gummint delaying its enquiry into the mad rooters guarding hotels in the Melbourne CBD recently.

    ‘Welcome to the first pandemic to be confronted by ‘woke’ post-modern policies based on not quarantining the infected, but instead appealing to a sense of community identity that has been dissolved in a toxic soup of government-sponsored identity politics, victimhood, and appeals to ‘human rights’ to exercise while infectious (unless you live in a welfare housing tower).

    ‘There has never been a more stupid and hysterical miscarriage of policy at a state level, abetted by a ‘Prime Minister’ who has demoted himself to being one more idiot among the State and Territory idiots, effectively carrying their water for them.’

    Bravo, sir.

    Seez it all.

  120. Leigh Lowe

    incoherent rambler

    #3537343, posted on August 6, 2020 at 9:16 am

    A few people here will end up with egg on their face.

    No, no.
    I predict we will run out of eggs on 11th August around 2:35 pm.
    I’ve run the numbers.

  121. Farmer Gez

    Shoulda gone to Pivot in Geelong.
    (If it still exists).

    Pick it up at Pivot and get home to watch the Don Lane show.
    It’s well gone.

  122. William the Conjuror

    My assumption is the plant was in place first, then the suburb.

    Lol. Wrong assumption.

  123. Struth.

    Sorry yes driver picked up fertiliser in Melbourne after taking grain to Geelong

    Classic food in, chemicals and fertilizer out, tipper work.

    Now, The likes of the scoffing hysteric Socialist, Notafan may want to know how I predict the outcome here, and although knowing the transport industry, who knows what Dan has shut down and what he hasn’t.
    If he’s shut down the liquid and dry fertilizer mobs on the port, things will be different than if he hasn’t.

  124. Makka

    One kind of terrorism –

    Now the communist is ragging on the people who catch ropists, kiddie traffickers and drug dealers. So intent on destroying civil society , he’s willing to back these assorted vermin. I’ll have to check but could be a new low.

  125. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    How many Aussie businesses teetering on the edge could $2m help?

    Lots, as we know. They could be assisted with much more if only the lockdown mentality was axed.

    Nevertheless, I don’t begrudge this small drop in the bucket over to Lebanon, a country with many staunch Christians, and suffering badly at present. I think we should keep most of our aid money for this sort of work, relief work, common humanity stuff, to be placed when and where it is needed during a crisis, and perhaps too for ongoing medical help with immunisations and basic health measures. I always give a small amount to the Fred Hollows Foundation because eyes matter so much.

  126. Dr Faustus

    Before-and-after satellite images of Beirut explosion show massive devastation

    Extraordinary.
    Hard to believe that fatalities are still being measured in the 100’s.

  127. H B Bear

    Good PR with the Lebs. Won’t hurt in Western Sydney around election time.

  128. Struth.

    I P in Geelong are still there, surely.

  129. Woolfe

    Hey Lizzie what’s your sons twitter handle,I’ll follow him.

  130. thefrollickingmole

    Nelson_Kidd-Players
    #3537123, posted on August 5, 2020 at 11:38 pm
    Infidel Tiger King #3537102, posted on August 5, 2020 at 10:53 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1290978354271784960

    You have to watch this. It’s incredible.

    Biden has lost it.

    Already sent to the forgettery.

    Worth a rewatch, just awful.

    Íllary and her left wing pillow squad will be waiting to “assist”Biden over the rainbow bridge 2 weeks before the election and run on a “its what he would have wanted”(at least thats what it sounded like with the pillow over his face) ticket.

  131. rickw

    Maybe Leigh but most butchers get their carcasses from big abattoirs.

    I don’t think any butchers in Melbourne do their own slaughtering. Lots of permits and controls of you do, unless you’re a muzzie in your backyard, then you can go for it.

  132. thefrollickingmole

    Lol. Wrong assumption.

    Presented without evidence, dismissed without evidence.
    Mummie is so sad, she thought her boy had at least some potential…

  133. notafan

    Johno exactly what I thought.

    Prices can change.

  134. rickw

    Pick it up at Pivot and get home to watch the Don Lane show.
    It’s well gone.

    Bulk or in those slippery little bags?!

  135. thefrollickingmole

    Im with Lizzie on the donation to Lebanon.
    Its an unusual disaster which deserves a bit of charity.

  136. notafan

    I got a personal reply from local member, various platitudes and a mention that pm supports the premier.

    I politely told him it was possible that they were both wrong

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  138. twostix

    A few people here will end up with egg on their face.

    Definitely not the people currently impotently imprisoned in their homes as their supermarkets rapidly empty out and the remainder of their allowed food production is shipped to China.

    LOL.

  139. notafan

    More evidence how far Australian academic standards have fallen.

  140. Geriatric Mayfly

    Just as well I checked first. It was nitrogen dioxide billowing over Beirut after the explosion. I thought I had read somewhere of nitrous oxide. Either way, it’s no laughing matter.

  141. Mater

    This is a great site when you need a short break from referencing, footnoting, and all the other boring stuff.

    And yet, accurately referencing a war service record seems beyond you.

  142. notafan

    Can’t talk more now have to go out.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    rickw

    #3537368, posted on August 6, 2020 at 9:37 am

    Maybe Leigh but most butchers get their carcasses from big abattoirs.

    I don’t think any butchers in Melbourne do their own slaughtering

    Whoa up there.
    Not talking about butchers catching and killing their own.
    Abs are restricted as to employment numbers, not volume.
    What I am talking about is that the abs reduce staff in their finer breakdown processing but still kill roughly the same numbers. Instead of sending highly prepped product to Colesworth they send full and half carcasses to butchers for the breakdown to be done there. Yeah, I get that would have bottlenecks, but I am trying to show that the rules would not directly translate to a 33% drop in supply.

    Also, it is employees onsite simultaneously.
    An abs running on day-shift only up until yesterday might move to a small afternoon shift to pick up the slack.
    Yes, slightly more expensive but miniscule compared to what we pay in drought and/or re-stocking.

  144. MatrixTransform

    Tightly coupled supply chains.

    == not eleastic

  145. MatrixTransform

    *boing

    “elastic”

  146. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    For the second month in a row I have had to ring 6-8 pharamacies to see who has stock of my commonly prescribed blood pressure tablets. Got the last packet at the 8th pharmacy I tried.

    I had a similar issue with blood pressure tablets. I asked for my usual two months supply from the script for six months, and was told ALL script medication, not just blood pressure med, was now only being given in only one month’s supply in order to be able to provide for everyone. All a bit too just-in-time for me.

  147. Cassie of Sydney

    “And yet, accurately referencing a war service record seems beyond you.”

    Truth is beyond him.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    Struth.

    #3537298, posted on August 6, 2020 at 8:49 am

    No Dunny rolls in Woolies already up here again

    Right.
    Let’s dissect that little statement.
    “Up here” is presumably somewhere in Queensland.
    Thousands of kilometres from the Dan-bans which have been in effect for a mere 8 hours
    So, “somewhere in Queensland” has shortages in supermarkets, despite there being no real clamp on logistics (yes, drivers might have to slow to 5kmh at the border and wave their permit at somebody, but no biggy).
    So what could be causing the shortages at 8:00 am “up here”?
    Could it be a panicky Chicken Little running around town making Sky-fall predictions (accompanied by his accordian)?

  149. MemoryFault

    Good morning Lizzie.

    Get in touch with me via Sinclair and we will arrange a contingency plan to get you up here for the birth, should the need arise.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sincere thanks to all on Catallaxy.
    This is a great site when you need a short break from referencing, footnoting, and all the other boring stuff.

    Glad to see you are learning some genuine new approaches to politics on this site, Numbers. If it wasn’t one of the most interesting sites with intelligent conversation that you can find on the net then you would have given up here long ago. And what’s more, it is fun. Leftism is a dead hand for fun, especially in these demented leftist times. No wonder you offer thanks, and will now, of course, turn your thanks to your usual silly stuff, such as we’re all weird here etc.

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sincere thanks to all on Catallaxy.

    You’re welcome Numbers!
    Keeps you mentally agile and innovative.
    Ask the NYT for a job after you finish your thesis.
    They have lots of newly empty column-inches to fill today.

  152. Makka

    was now only being given in only one month’s supply in order to be able to provide for everyone.

    Same in Vic with Mrs M. Doc told her it’s to prevent hoarding, supply is ok.

  153. Struth.

    The lack of supply of blood pressure tablets will not effect the supply of the drug to the pigs in the farm house.

    Nostrastruth prophecy 1.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    Congratulations!

    This is a great achievement and you should be very proud!

    Normal students don’t get those letters.
    It is only the “special kids”.
    #patronising.
    Was there an elephant stamp on the bottom of the letter Spud?

  155. MatrixTransform

    Grade Point Average (GPA) of 6 or more.

    consistently gets 120%

    well done

  156. Frank Thring. Was it wrong of me to giggle after Googling his name?

  157. Makka

    Roger
    #3537403, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:02 am

    Awesome Rog. Wise and young enough to change their ways to make a life for themselves.

  158. Roger

    Kevin Rudd, Sunshine Coast, Qld

    Seems even NYC tired of him.

  159. Roger

    Awesome Rog. Wise and young enough to change their ways to make a life for themselves.

    +1

    I thought we could all use a good news story, Makka.

  160. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks, MV. The sheepskin alternative doesn’t appeal, but needs must.

    If we do need to go urgently we will get in somehow, by hook or by crook, as the saying goes.
    I think that must originally be a reference to shepherd’s hook and a bishop’s crook, a reflection of some ancient finangling that went on about something or other, to find a way, somehow.

    A friend of ours here couldn’t get to see his dying father in Hobart during the earliest lockdown.
    Permission refused.
    Outrageous. It invites criminal activities to surmount such brutality.

  161. Struth.

    Thousands of kilometres from the Dan-bans which have been in effect for a mere 8 hours

    Denial is refusing to believe that this country has been under socialist style tyranny since March.
    Not for eight hours.
    The dunny roll issue is due in this case, most likely to panic buying, of which everyone will be doing everywhere as they start to realise the bullshit they were being told about easing restrictions is exactly that……bullshit.

    Are you telling me that just because I said the supply chain will now be broken that it won’t also coincide with panic buying?

  162. And yet, accurately referencing a war service record seems beyond you.

    My activities here are purely recreational, old mate.
    Unlike you, I don’t take what goes up here seriously.

  163. MatrixTransform

    oh hang on … they calculate it differently up there?

    I should have said “consistently gets 60%”

    and yr proud about it ?

    …they send out encouragement letters for retards do they?

    2 +2 == 5
    (for very large values of 2 )

  164. Leigh Lowe

    was now only being given in only one month’s supply in order to be able to provide for everyone.

    Same in Vic with Mrs M. Doc told her it’s to prevent hoarding, supply is ok.

    The ‘one month’ supply rule has been around for at least two years.
    A bit annoying if you are on a standard medication and everything is stable.
    My doc explained it to me.
    People with yet to be stabilised conditions get a six month scrip.
    They buy the lot in one go.
    It costs them $40.
    If it is a PBS drug it costs the taxpayer maybe $300.
    They then ignore all other advice and are back two months later in a worse condition.
    Scrip changed, old drugs down the sink.

  165. Cassie of Sydney

    “Nevertheless, I don’t begrudge this small drop in the bucket over to Lebanon, a country with many staunch Christians, and suffering badly at present. “

    Agree entirely.

  166. H B Bear

    ‘NamBob I hope you aren’t continuing to pollute students minds. You should have left that with your day job.

  167. P

    Christians in Scotland have warned new hate speech legislation could enshrine “cancel culture” in law while rendering expression of biblical morality illegal.

    The Scottish Parliament is currently debating the “Hate Crime and Public Order” bill that would criminalize communicating “threatening, abusive or insulting material” that is “likely” to stir up hatred against a protected group, which Christians fear could easily include traditional Christian teaching on sexual morality, marriage, and human nature.

    While eliminating the offence of blasphemy, the new legislation creates a new crime of stirring up hatred against any of the protected groups covered by the Bill. It also creates offences of “possessing inflammatory material” with a view to communicating the material in circumstances where it is likely that hatred would be stirred up.

    The director of the Catholic Parliamentary Office, Anthony Horan, has warned that the legislation could enshrine “cancel culture” in law.

    “A new offence of possessing inflammatory material could even render material such as the Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church inflammatory,” Mr. Horan said. “The Catholic Church’s understanding of the human person, including the belief that sex and gender are not fluid and changeable, could potentially fall foul of the new law.”

  168. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hiroshima atomic bomb attack still raw, 75 years on

    exclusive
    Kieran Gair
    EXCLUSIVE
    @KieranGair
    6:33PM August 5, 2020
    56 Comments

    At 8.15am on August 6, 1945, six-year-old Teri Teramoto was cooking with her mother when the US unleashed the world’s first atomic bomb attack on the city of Hiroshima, vaporising thousands of lives and destroying Japan’s ability to wage war.

    “I was helping mother make soybeans that we would turn into powder,” she says, recounting the moments before the bomb flashed over Hiroshima. “The air was just so, so hot.”

    Ms Teramoto, 81, is one of the last Japanese-Australian witness­es to that horror and feels a growing urgenc­y — a responsibility even — to share her story.

    Occasionally, she says, the “nasty” images seared into her memory will bubble to the ­surface, briefly shattering the peaceful life she now lives in Chatswood, in Sydney’s north.

    She can still vividly recall the overpowering stench of burning flesh that lingered in the air in the days after the blast, the smell so pungent it was as if the dead had clung to her clothing. “Whole human bodies were just burning,” Ms Teramoto recalls.

    “People were being burnt alive, and some were just dying on the road. Never, ever can you imagine­ the smell.”

    Seventy-five years ago on Thursday, US warplane Enola Gay dropped an atomic bomb nicknamed Little Boy, obliterating Hiroshima and killing about 140,000 of the city’s 350,000 residents.

    Three days later, on August 9, 1945, the US dropped a second atomic bomb, dubbed Fat Man, on Nagasaki, about 420km to the south of Hiroshima, wiping out more than 75,000 lives. It was the first time nuclear weapons had been used in warfare: as a result of the blasts, Japan surrendered on August 15, ending World War II.

    From the Oz. Any comment, Top Ender?

  169. Digits:

    The lower brain takes over again.
    The behaviour of posters like these – “stocking up” – is what causes the shortages.

    You bloody fool.
    People like me who keep about three months of food in the house are the reason there is not a more drastic shortage of the essentials when the other 90% of the populace goes shopping.
    When the specials started reappearing, I restocked. Now that the government is causing all sorts of jitters, there’s less pressure on a finite amount of goods and I’ve restocked with stuff at the lower prices.
    It’s common sense and good budgeting.

  170. Struth.

    Some of the posters here would do a whole lot better channeling the energy they put into denial-ism and attacking realists, to fighting for their freedom.

  171. Roger

    “A new offence of possessing inflammatory material could even render material such as the Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church inflammatory,” Mr. Horan said. “The Catholic Church’s understanding of the human person, including the belief that sex and gender are not fluid and changeable, could potentially fall foul of the new law.”

    I’m afraid they see that as a feature rather than a bug, Mr. Horan.

  172. MemoryFault

    If we do need to go urgently we will get in somehow, by hook or by crook, as the saying goes.

    The contingency measures are already in place, Lizzie.

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    On foreign aid, so much of it goes into the pockets of nepotistic cronies that giving it regularly seems a very bad idea; it also causes a culture of aid-dependence which is bad for any nation. It often too provides just enough to stop people from rising up against a dictator and overthrowing him, hence it cushions an evil system from its just deserts.

    Of course the Chicoms are onto it in a big way, but with their own special twist. They give loans and then take assets on default.

  174. Mater

    My activities here are purely recreational, old mate.
    Unlike you, I don’t take what goes up here seriously.

    I think you misunderstand me, Bob.
    I take nothing you post or write seriously. Main reason being, you’re a dishonest shit.

  175. Old School Conservative

    US warplane Enola Gay dropped an atomic bomb nicknamed Little Boy

    For the sake of our LGBTI+ friends, this triggering statement should be airbrushed from history.

  176. H B Bear

    The Bittered Sav seems to have drawn today’s column from the Prof’s School of Wrongology.

  177. Makka

    Three days later, on August 9, 1945, the US dropped a second atomic bomb, dubbed Fat Man, on Nagasaki, about 420km to the south of Hiroshima, wiping out more than 75,000 lives.

    Yeah, I have a comment.

    Considering the many years of utter torment, butchery, mass murder, torture and destruction committed by Imperial Japan, your leaders and war crazy citizens of that period got off lightly if compared to a full blown violent Allied invasion and military occupation. Should have caught the hint after Hiroshima.

  178. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘consistently gets 120%

    well done’

    Bahaaaa.

    It’s old people doing uni, Old Yeller. It’s a curio for them. ‘Look at the elderly person we made feel better with our diversity’, they said.

    Did you get you APG 7 grade for the shaving mirror story, the locked and loaded story, the blanket origami story, the saving the noggie kids story, the broken ankle that wasn’t saving a child from traffic story, the shoes given to the local derro as a child story, the pro bono advocate story, the spack bus story, the progressive 1950s Mick education story, one of the Butcher’s Apron stories, the not tipping the waiter story, the free ammo at the range story, the I can’t remember what rifle section I was in but it was a Foreign Legion of multicultural goodness story, the never darkened the door of the RSL since ’71 story, the failed research into your own family service story, the plovers in the schoolground story, the IDF making preggo Ayrab ladeees drink bleach story, the Lake Nash indig doctor story or the cheerful scholar story*?

    *Incomplete list.

  179. Doc Faustus:

    Does Orica store fireworks with its AN prill?

    Thanks – now I know what prilling is.
    Edumacation at the Cat continues.

  180. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    My activities here are purely recreational, old mate.
    Unlike you, I don’t take what goes up here seriously.

    We know that, when you begin a post in 1992 & end the same post in 1987.

    However “recreational” isn’t the most appropriate word for your condition.

  181. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Considering the many years of utter torment, butchery, mass murder, torture and destruction committed by Imperial Japan, your leaders and war crazy citizens of that period got off lightly if compared to a full blown violent Allied invasion and military occupation. Should have caught the hint after Hiroshima.’

    Yep.

    It’s like the school bully complaining about being smacked in the face and kicked in the nuts when he should have been fed through a woodchipper.

    Attention Sons of Nippon – stop yer bitching.

  182. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks, MV. I hear you. I am game, but Hairy is a stickler for proper channels, although he is very inventive in finding these. And to think he was once a revolutionary in his youth, founder of the Cambridge Peoples’ Rowing Club. Your alma mater is currently a Chicom disgrace, I tell him. 🙂

    We will wait and see what eventuates.

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Considering the many years of utter torment, butchery, mass murder, torture and destruction committed by Imperial Japan, your leaders and war crazy citizens of that period got off lightly if compared to a full blown violent Allied invasion and military occupation. Should have caught the hint after Hiroshima.’

    Yep.

    It’s like the school bully complaining about being smacked in the face and kicked in the nuts when he should have been fed through a woodchipper.

  184. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We spent a night in a Love Hotel on the site of ground zero in Nagasaki.

    A good night it was too. 🙂

  185. Perth Trader

    I just now posted a food parcel along with a box of Good Sammi’s second hand clothes to a friend in Vic. ” I’m doing my part , are you’ ?

  186. incoherent rambler

    Three days later, on August 9, 1945, the US dropped a second atomic bomb, dubbed Fat Man, on Nagasaki, about 420km to the south of Hiroshima, wiping out more than 75,000 lives.

    Yeah, I have a comment.

    Considering the many years of utter torment, butchery, mass murder, torture and destruction committed by Imperial Japan, your leaders and war crazy citizens of that period got off lightly if compared to a full blown violent Allied invasion and military occupation. Should have caught the hint after Hiroshima.

    + ∞

    The nukes undoubtedly saved lives.
    Anyone have the US casualty list on hand. Not to mention the Philippines (100,000+) and few others.

  187. MemoryFault

    We will wait and see what eventuates.

    Fair enough, Lizzie.
    The offer is there if you need it, but I will not mention it again on a public blog.

  188. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The nukes undoubtedly saved lives.
    Anyone have the US casualty list on hand. Not to mention the Philippines (100,000+) and few others.

    Top Ender’s book estimates over thirty million – including the Japanese deaths from famine or disease, had the war gone on until mid 1947, as the Americans were planning.

  189. Shy Ted

    Will Viagara and Cialis supplies be affected? Asking for a friend.

  190. Mother Lode

    Back in January the ABC called milk ‘white milk’

    I have always thought that calling milk ‘white’ was to distinguish from flavoured milks.

    What should they call it? Raw milk? Flavourless milk? Plain milk?

    They could probably get away with calling it ‘plain’ milk, but then why should they? The ‘white’ in white milk was never racist (no more than the whites of your eyes, or egg whites), and it is frankly ridiculous to ask everyone to break habits of a lifetime as an apology to people who were never wronged, and who will thus emboldened and muddled continue and escalate their demands.

    They can have their delusions and suffer for it to their heart’s content, but I owe their delusions nothing.

  191. Leigh Lowe

    Lizzie at 9:54.
    See my post at 10:08.

  192. Roger

    Remember Bush’s “new world order”?

    A spectre is haunting the liberal West: the rise of the “civilisation-state”. As America’s political power wanes and its moral authority collapses, the rising challengers of Eurasia have adopted the model of the civilisation-state to distinguish themselves from a paralysed liberal order, which lurches from crisis to crisis without ever quite dying nor yet birthing a viable successor.

    “Western societies have sacrificed their specific cultures for the sake of a universal project,” [Portugal’s former foefign minister] Macaes notes. “One can no longer find the old tapestry of traditions and customs or a vision of the good life in these societies.” Our naive faith that liberalism, derived from the political and cultural traditions of Northern Europe, would conquer the world has now been shattered for good. Instead, it is the defiantly non-liberal civilisation-states of Eurasia that threaten to swallow us whole. Where then, does that leave Europe, and what are we to do with liberalism?

    RTWT

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3537438, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:23 am

    ‘consistently gets 120%

    If I was Spud I would be pissed off with that mark.
    The same paper scored much better when it was submitted by someone else last year.

  194. incoherent rambler

    I’m throwing my hat in the ring for FallApartLotto.

    Things will go to complete shit within 2 weeks in Viktoristan (compared to now, which is only waste deep shit).

    Delirious Dan and his lying advisors have assumed that the latest batch of people placed under house arrest are sane, rational and fearful of hefty fines.

    We have imported yuge numbers of people into Viktoristan from war zones, who have limited tolerance for a ruling class.

    Police in hazmat gear issuing C1984 fines will be unable to control what is coming.

  195. feelthebern

    Just imagine how many white beamers that were boosted in southern Europe that $A2mill we’re sending Lebanon will buy.

  196. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault

    #3537456, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:36 am

    We will wait and see what eventuates.

    Fair enough, Lizzie.
    The offer is there if you need it, but I will not mention it again on a public blog.

    I might be looking for a bit of help.
    Are you up for it Faulty?

  197. William the Conjuror

    Edumacation at the Cat continues.

    And that’s a good thing. Some Newcastle NSW history for you (although I did think your earlier comment might be tongue in cheek).

    Stockton: established 1800 (where victuallers would row their boats out to provision the visiting sailing ships.
    Mayfield: established early 1800s ((once known as the Toorak of Newcastle, because the wealthy built their mansions there) , named after May, the daughter of one of those wealthy residents.
    Tighes Hill: established late 1800s, originally as a service suburb for the Ferndale Colliery.
    Carrington: established late 1800s as a working class suburb.
    Kooragang Island: established mid 1960s to mid 1970s. Originally a group of Hunter River islands, the largest being Ash, Dempsey, Moscheto and Spit Islands, used throughout the 1800s and 1900s for dairy farming. Converted into a single Kooragang Island for industrial use (mainly on its eastern end) by filling in the tidal channels between the original islands and raising the land level with fill from BHP operations.

  198. Tintarella di Luna

    “Nevertheless, I don’t begrudge this small drop in the bucket over to Lebanon, a country with many staunch Christians, and suffering badly at present. “

    Agree entirely.

    $2m to Beirut to help with the devastation – when compared to the fact that $520,000+ was spent on the watering system at Parliament House and $92,000 spent by the National’s Littlefoot/Littleproud on some meeting tables at $520 each — I think $2m is nothing to begrudge

  199. Geriatric Mayfly

    Back to the paramount issue of the day – global warming. Is it not unusual for a sub tropical Low Pressure system to be tracking south, from central Australia, at this time of year? Once it is perfectly formed I think it should be called Greta.

  200. feelthebern

    Twitter has just fucked up.

  201. calli

    Back to the paramount issue of the day – global warming

    HOW DARE YOU!

    When lockdown finally ends.

  202. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Leigh Lowe at 8:50 am:

    ” Struth … at 8:49″ am

    No Dunny rolls in Woolies already up here again

    Jeez.
    What are you going to write your daily manifesto on now?

    and from Farmer Gez at 8:59 am:

    “…
    Struth of the Overflow.”

    Struth – you started yapping at 0630. By 1000 you had spluttered, spat and dribbled out 22 posts, 6¼ per hour.

    That’s no surprise – on the July 21 Forum I inexplicably read parts of a couple of your posts and ran a search. On one day, from 0815 to 1515, you screeched and screamed 5 posts per hour for 7 hours straight … and 1 every 4 minutes the night before.

    At the end of that forum you openly advertised that you are barking mad, with:

    “You waste your time here [addressing a fellow heroic warrior]
    “She [another contributor] endorsed this tyranny and viciously attacked those against it.
    She’s a gossip … It’s not healthy here, it’s a sort of blog for the political ostrich.”

    I am reminded of that effete little man rudd, striding busily about with his warped and distorted self importance, and of this from a learned man:

    “There were some gilded youths that sat along the barber’s wall.
    Their eyes were dull, their heads were flat, they had no brains at all”

  203. thefrollickingmole

    Skin suit boy can use wiki.

    Wow, much amazement
    Incedibles.

    Next he will discover industrial areas and how as land values rise it becomes nearly as profitable to sit on the land (while maintaining a business) and watch it appreciate than the business itself.

    (Ht: Peter Young, a car yard/ land millionaire)

  204. Infidel Tiger King

    Twitter has just fucked up.

    What this time?

  205. MemoryFault

    I think $2m is nothing to begrudge

    I suppose it isn’t, when it’s all OPM anyway. In this case, our grandchildren’s money.

    After PM Morrison’s largess over the last five months, this country is now over $1 trillion in debt, mostly to foreign banks. With a lot more to come. Now consider what $2 million becomes with 30 years of compound interest added to it.

  206. Perth Trader

    Has Sally McManus given up the dream policy of a “living wage’ ( whatever that means ) ?

  207. incoherent rambler

    Pfft. $2m here, $2m there, pretty soon …

  208. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Remarkable & somewhat rare degree of self-awareness shown here by this poster:

    1735099 #3537227, posted on August 6, 2020 at 7:20 am
    Within two to three days you’ll start noticing certain things in short supply.
    Depends what you read.
    If it’s this site, it’s sanity.

  209. Infidel Tiger King

    Im with Lizzie on the donation to Lebanon.
    Its an unusual disaster which deserves a bit of charity.

    Yep.

    Don’t confuse the Bekkah Valley hillbillies roaming around western Sydney with the Lebanese.

  210. Makka

    LA will cut water and power to homes, businesses hosting unauthorised gatherings

  211. mh

    The green light has been given by the Qld Labor government for an asylum seeker march this Saturday in Brisbane City, expected to draw thousands.

    And just like that it’s ‘what pandemic?’

  212. thefrollickingmole

    Awesome, just bloody awesome.

    There is no crisis, the government is demonstrating that with its actions.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-06/ais-to-be-refurbished-as-womens-sport-paralympics-hub/12528314

    I think we can all agree, $375 million is a small price to pay for troughers to have their own kingdom to administer.

    Under the plans, the AIS will be self-financing within 20 years.

    “The $375 million up front cost will be more than offset by the sale of some surplus land that will not be needed because we’ll be building the new high-performance centre on a smaller footprint,” Wylie said.

    Much of Australia’s success at the Olympic games since the 1990s can be traced in some way back to the AIS.

    Sports like basketball and football have used it effectively for pathways from junior sport through to the elite Socceroos and Matildas teams.

  213. calli

    Four hundred and seventy one newbies on the Danistan Corona tram today.

    The mask masque.

  214. jsan

    I need to rant, so please excuse any incoherence. My sister passed away suddenly on Monday. My elderly mother (84 years old) now has to organise the funeral and grieve alone as I will not be allowed to travel overseas to be with her. Now I see VicPol are manhandling non-conformers and treating them as criminals the same time we are being warned that the food supply chain is being disrupted and may lead to food shortages. Shades of controlling the lumpenproletariat through violence and starvation anyone?
    We can easily change Sir Edward Grey’s 1914 quote to read “The lamps of freedom are going out all over the world, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time”

  215. Infidel Tiger King

    Four hundred and seventy one newbies on the Danistan Corona tram today.

    The mask masque.

    It is going to stay around that mark for at least a year.

    No one can get to testing facilities!

    Brilliant strategy.

  216. stackja

    jsan
    #3537519, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:14 am
    I need to rant, so please excuse any incoherence. My sister passed away suddenly on Monday. My elderly mother (84 years old) now has to organise the funeral and grieve alone as I will not be allowed to travel overseas to be with her.

    Clergy organised all for me. No need for me to attend.

  217. What arts PhD had coursework?

    This is some kind of joke.

  218. mh

    I expect the $2 million to end up with Hezbollah.

  219. EvilElvis

    Triggered a Flashback. Cement burns from installing rock bolts.

    Ahhhh, bespoke. Job of champions grouting rock bolts.

  220. MatrixTransform

    condolences jsan.

    this is a shitty time

  221. It’s okay to be white is racist.
    The song brown sugar is racist.

    Where does that leave white sugar?

  222. I’ve figured out Biden.

    When he sniffs you, he becomes you.

    He has smelt too many MissTeen USA contestants.

    This is why his answers are barking and platitudes about the future, the world, our kiiiids etc.

  223. calli

    Jsan, rant away. You have good reason.

    My condolences for your terrible loss. Can your mother call upon Christians near her to help her organise things? They would be only to happy to assist, regardless of circumstances.

  224. MemoryFault

    I expect the $2 million to end up with Hezbollah.

    Agreed.
    And you can bet none of the “refugees” we have agreed to take, will be Christian.

  225. P

    $2m to Beirut to help with the devastation – when compared to the fact that $520,000+ was spent on the watering system at Parliament House and $92,000 spent by the National’s Littlefoot/Littleproud on some meeting tables at $520 each — I think $2m is nothing to begrudge

    I’m not big on monetary foreign aid but in this case I wouldn’t begrudge a lot more.

    The only Middle East country with a Christian head of state is now in an unprecedented state due to a harbor explosion of chemicals more destructive than wartime devastation.

    Michel Constantin, regional director for the Beirut-based office of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association (CNEWA), a Pontifical Mission, told the Register in a mobile phone interview no one has experienced this kind of explosive destruction in Lebanon — even in wartime.

    The city’s economic gateway to the Middle East is destroyed. Lebanon faces a food crisis on top of its political, economic and financial crises. Humanitarian aid is desperately needed, and the world must act now for Lebanon; without it, the devastation of Beirut may ripple throughout the Middle East and beyond, Constantin explained.

    We have many hospitals which were evacuated due to the damage. One of them is a big hospital, St. George, run by the Greek Orthodox. It’s one of the biggest hospitals in Lebanon. It was evacuated; they don’t have any electricity. They sent away all the patients to other hospitals.

    The hospitals are full, and there are no more places to put people. Whether it’s the American University of Beirut’s hospital, or the Hôtel-Dieu, which is the French hospital of St. Joseph’s University, all the hospitals are fully packed. They’ve each received 500 injured persons, and they cannot receive more.

    We have 350 schools in Lebanon for the Church. We have 14 or 15 hospitals for the Catholic Church, and we also have a number of non-Catholic hospitals, Orthodox, Protestant and other communities. So all these institutions are very important, not only for the Christian community, but for all Lebanon, and they need support.

    So this is a big hit that is attached to the whole commerce cycle of Lebanon and the whole role of Lebanon as a transit route for the Middle East. It will affect Syria, as well, as Lebanon is important for the Syrian economy.

    (Excerpts from the National Catholic Register)

  226. notafan

    Apparently the area in Beirut most damaged was in fact the Christian one.

    I’m sure local Maronite community would know how to properly direct aid, if asked.

  227. Infidel Tiger King

    Virgin’s boss predicts the coronavirus pandemic will halt international travel for the airline until at least 2023 after 3000 jobs were cut.

    Bloody hell.

  228. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    All through the 1980s, feminists called men pigs, leftists called conservatives racists, and columnists openly compared right-wing politicians to Hitler. Then Rush Limbaugh came along and started fighting back, and all of a sudden we started to hear about the lack of civility in public discourse! Civility only became an issue when the left started taking it on the chin.

    — Andrew Klavan

    And then came The Donald.

  229. stackja

    notafan
    #3537540, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:26 am
    Apparently the area in Beirut most damaged was in fact the Christian one.

    Coincidence?

  230. Would Japan have been in a state to be rehabilitated if subjected to defeat by a ground assault?

  231. Delta A

    jsan
    #3537519, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:14 am

    An awful time for you and your family, jsan.

    Sincere condolences.

  232. mh

    And you can bet none of the “refugees” we have agreed to take, will be Christian.

    Is this for real? We are taking Lebanese ‘refugees’ again?

  233. Top Ender

    Yes Zulu.

    That was me who said under the Oz article:

    A very necessary attack, but sad.

    If the A-bombs hadn’t been used, the deaths amongst the Allies would have been around a million, but in the Japanese defenders many millions.

    An order had also gone out to execute all POWs once an invasion of the Japanese mainland began, to free up the POW guards to fight.

  234. Infidel Tiger King

    Is this for real? We are taking Lebanese ‘refugees’ again?

    No.

  235. mh

    I like the way Nick Kyrgios is taking the high ground with world tennis.

    His chutzpah is quite endearing.

  236. Makka

    The Christian Lebs who came here in the 70’s were actually a very decent bunch. As a young poor apprentice , the Lidcombe Leb shop owners regularly subbed me until payday for lunch and smoko. Never a hassle , always lots of laffs. Their tucker and bakery items were delicious. And they made sure their shops were liberally adorned with images of Our Lady and the Lord.

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