Tuesday Forum: August 4, 2020

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  1. feelthebern

    Twitter banned Trump from tweeting until he removes a “problematic” tweet.

  2. MemoryFault

    Is this for real? We are taking Lebanese ‘refugees’ again?

    Anna Ponygirl announced QLD was ready and prepared to take “refugees” from Beirut within a few hours of the explosion.

  3. Shy Ted

    Professor de la Harpe serves as a Board member of the Council for Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences (CHASS) and assumed the role of Chair of the RUN Executive Women (RUN EW) Group. Prior to joining USQ she held a number of senior leadership roles in the College of Design and Social Context at RMIT University, including Interim/Acting Pro Vice Chancellor and Vice President, Deputy Pro Vice Chancellor (Learning and Teaching), Dean (Academic Development) and Associate Professor and Director Teaching Quality.
    Barbara has over 20 years’ experience in the Higher Educations Sector. She has an outstanding and sustained record of successfully leading and championing learning and teaching and has significant standing for her research in the field of Higher Education that has been recognized by numerous awards, including an ALTC citation ‘For specialist expertise and leadership in professional development support for academic staff’.
    Her research and publications are in the areas of Higher Education teaching and learning, including transformation of practice in studio teaching, assessment and generic skills; academic staff professional development and change management. She has been the leader of 4 Office of Learning and Teaching Council Grants (Cat 1, ARC equivalent).
    Wow, seriously qualified eh, TooBob? But what does she actually do other than stamp “Well done” on each piece of paper that crosses her desk?

  4. feelthebern

    I like the way Nick Kyrgios is taking the high ground with world tennis.

    Most incredibly gifted player in the last decade.
    Also the most incredibly stupid player in the last decade.

  5. johanna

    TheirABC publishes a gushing tribute to the builders of a hut in Tasmania – intrepid pioneers yada yada:

    The new Waterfall Valley hut — the latest addition to the collection of six huts dotted along Tasmania’s popular multi-day walk, the Overland Track — is bigger, warmer, ‘healthier’ and more energy-efficient than the one it replaces.

    That is according to Nic Deka, of Tasmania Parks and Wildlife, who said it was built using state-of-the-art materials and technologies.

    More impressive still was the effort made to construct it: building a hut in a wild and climatically harsh location like Waterfall Valley remained far from straightforward.

    There follows a breathless description of how clever and brave these people, alleged professionals with plenty of taxpayer resources, were to build this thing.

    Has anyone at TheirABC ever watched a show on Life called Building Alaska? It shows how amateurs on tight budgets build holiday homes and even permanent homes in much harsher and more isolated conditions. Tasmania is like the Caribbean compared to the Alaskan wilderness.

    The self indulgent, self congratulary bubble these people live in must be made of the latest graphite compound. Nothing penetrates it.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Yes Zulu.

    That was me who said under the Oz article:

    You’d be reading “Robert’s” comments about how the Japanese orders to execute prisoners of war only applied in the case of a “Cowra” style breakout, then? I’ve had two comments on that one rejected..

  7. mh

    Anna Ponygirl announced QLD was ready and prepared to take “refugees” from Beirut within a few hours of the explosion.

    Oh God. How embarrassing.

  8. notafan

    Always possible but I doubt it was planned stackja.

  9. MatrixTransform

    Wow, seriously qualified eh, TooBob? But what does she actually do other than stamp “Well done” on each piece of paper that crosses her desk?

    Cartesian Bob’s thesis is in the School of Anti-Social Science

  10. Dr Faustus

    The green light has been given by the Qld Labor government for an asylum seeker march this Saturday in Brisbane City, expected to draw thousands.

    This is entirely consistent with the Palacechook Rona strategy:

    – keep infection numbers as close to zero as possible until the end of October;
    – promote loathing of filthy, virus-oozing southerners as Plan B;
    – maintain maximum wokeness to distract the Brisbane Green vote.

    CMO seal of approval.

  11. feelthebern

    numbers got a participation certificate from his local TAFE.

  12. Jsan:
    You’re allowed a good rant.
    Emotional times demand it.

  13. Cassie of Sydney

    “stackja
    #3537543, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:28 am
    Liberty Quote
    All through the 1980s, feminists called men pigs, leftists called conservatives racists, and columnists openly compared right-wing politicians to Hitler. Then Rush Limbaugh came along and started fighting back, and all of a sudden we started to hear about the lack of civility in public discourse! Civility only became an issue when the left started taking it on the chin.

    — Andrew Klavan

    And then came The Donald.”

    Milo has said similar. I remember when Milo was here in Oz and Andrew Bolt interviewed him. Bolt, always the soft cuck, accused Milo of being rude…and Milo responded (politely) in a similar way to the above. The truth is that conservatives have been attacked for years and there has been zero pushback…until the Donald. Look at how the mainstream media and the elites treated Romney back in 2012. Funny how Romney is now the left’s darling yet in 2012 they loathed him…and they accused him of all manner of unspeakable crimes….with little to no pushback from Romney and the Republicans. Being nice and civil clearly didn’t get Romney very far in 2012…did it? When you go up against the left nowadays you must be willing to push back and push back hard otherwise you will get nowhere.

    It is no different here. It didn’t do Abbott any good being the decent and civil man..especially in last year’s Warringah campaign. I know Abbott volunteers who were spat on…culminating in the infamous election eve stabbing. I could go on with numerous other examples….an utterly toxic, sordid and vicious campaign conducted by the left against Abbott…by the skank Steggall, GetUp and Labor…and Labor had a big input in Steggall’s campaign..just like they helped with Phelps’ campaign in October 2018 and last year…at least here in Wentworth last year they failed..not for want of trying though. Oh and as for the campaign against Nicolle Flint in Boothby.

    The truth is that the left deserve some of their own medicine applied to them..in spades.

  14. jsan

    Thanks for letting me get everything off my chest and the condolences. It does help. There are good people frequenting this blog.

  15. rickw

    Anna Ponygirl announced QLD was ready and prepared to take “refugees” from Beirut within a few hours of the explosion.

    What about refugees from Victoria??!!!

  16. Notafan:

    Apparently the area in Beirut most damaged was in fact the Christian one.

    My spideysense paranoia finds that fact just a little sinister.

  17. Shy Ted

    Geriatric Mayfly #3537493, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:58 am
    Back to the paramount issue of the day – global warming. Is it not unusual for a sub tropical Low Pressure system to be tracking south, from central Australia, at this time of year? Once it is perfectly formed I think it should be called Greta.

    True, you don’t often see something like this. The ABC will be mortified with all that rain.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Legalise Sedition

    #3537523, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:17 am

    What arts PhD had coursework?

    This is some kind of joke.

    My thoughts exactly, Sedation.

  19. Dr Faustus

    What about refugees from Victoria??!!!

    Get real.
    The equivalent of backloading cane toads.

  20. William the Conjuror

    Like one rule for us, another for punters

    SA Liberals are under fire for holding a 700-strong dinner in the same week as the state government reintroduced limits on funerals and weddings.

    Paywallian.

  21. MemoryFault

    Jsan,
    What State are you in, and what State is your mother in?

  22. Leigh Lowe

    Anna Ponygirl announced QLD was ready and prepared to take “refugees” from Beirut within a few hours of the explosion.

    You got a link for that, Faulty?
    If I get details I will dash off a stern letter, but I am keen to know exactly what she said.

  23. Infidel Tiger King

    SA Liberals are under fire for holding a 700-strong dinner in the same week as the state government reintroduced limits on funerals and weddings.

    Fine them and jail them.

  24. notafan

    Turns out there is a supply chain analyst in the family who used to be in the food manufacturing industry.

    In a nutshell food industry is very diverse

    ‘Total collapse is very very doubtful’

    Missing specific ingredients possible.’

    Messing up forecasts happens regularly when items ‘on special’ usually rectified within one or two shifts.

    Recovery was pretty swift last time once rationing imposed and of course supermarkets immediately went into product limits to prevent hoarding.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jsan:
    You’re allowed a good rant.
    Emotional times demand it.

    Second that one, Winston.

  26. feelthebern

    Fine them and jail them.

    Just beat them.

  27. Leigh Lowe

    Turns out there is a supply chain analyst in the family who used to be in the food manufacturing industry.

    Phhht.
    How many buses has he driven?

  28. P

    What’s the direct impact on the Christian communities of Lebanon, and what has their response been?

    I cannot say the impact on Christians was more than on Muslims. It is the same. We’re all on the same boat.

    The explosion was so big and so huge for us that it damaged the whole city; not only the surrounding vicinity [of the blast], but the whole city miles away from the harbor was damaged.

    The damage is vast. We have two hospitals — one in Gemmayzeh operated by the Rosary Sisters. It was evacuated, as the damage was so huge. They cannot keep any patient inside. And now the whole vicinity of the hospital was evacuated.

    The same for Beirut’s Orthodox hospital: St. George Hospital. One of the largest and most important hospitals in the Middle East is damaged. It’s completely out of electricity: There is no activity, no communication inside it, and they had to evacuate it. This hospital had 500 to 600 beds. This is a real loss for Beirut at this critical time of coronavirus and this disaster.

  29. thefrollickingmole

    jsan
    #3537519, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:14 am
    I need to rant, so please excuse any incoherence. My sister passed away suddenly on Monday. My elderly mother (84 years old) now has to organise the funeral and grieve alone as I will not be allowed to travel overseas to be with her.

    Condolences, similar to my wife losing her Granny a couple of months back, she was a little lucky in that she had 3 months with her before she died (a month after my wife returned from overseas).
    Hope you have some good people to help you.

  30. jsan

    MF, after the initial shock, I’ve progressed to mixed feelings of grief, helplessness and anger that I cannot be there for my mum who is all alone at this time.

  31. Boambee John

    1735099
    #3537414, posted on August 6, 2020 at 10:07 am
    And yet, accurately referencing a war service record seems beyond you.

    My activities here are purely recreational, old mate.
    Unlike you, I don’t take what goes up here seriously.

    So, the bin chicken couldn’t be @rsed about quoting his father’s service record accurately, then spends days complaining when someone else corrects the mythological “narrative” the bin chicken himself presented. And separately claims that his main focus with his Piled Higher and Deeper work is correcting myths!

  32. feelthebern

    A wooden baseball bat would suffice.
    Walking Dead style.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    SA Liberals are under fire for holding a 700-strong dinner in the same week as the state government reintroduced limits on funerals and weddings.

    Fine them and jail them.

    And, if any of them are called “Christopher”, maybe a dose of crucifixion.

  34. notafan

    How dare you assume gender LL!

  35. Top Ender

    Zulu, have just tried taking on Robert the POW Denier with a slab of source material.

    We shall see….

  36. rickw

    My elderly mother (84 years old) now has to organise the funeral and grieve alone as I will not be allowed to travel overseas to be with her.

    Will the country you want to travel to accept you?

  37. Shy Ted

    Global warming continues apace. I don’t think we need any more evidence than that.

  38. Some History

    Some background on Victoria’s Chief Health Officer from a quick google search

    Sutton, the Sly Fox, has facebook groupies:

    https://www.facebook.com/brettsuttonishot/

    He’s done extensive medical work, particularly in third-world countries.
    https://humanitarianhealthethics.net/2016/06/23/infocus-brett-sutton/

    He seems to have a Buddhist leaning – 2008 article

    Dr Brett Sutton writes on compassionate medical care in his article on Emergency Buddhism: Part II published earlier on the APLI website

    http://apli.net.au/projects/emergency-buddhism-part-ii/

  39. MemoryFault

    Jsan,
    Your anger and grief are both understandable.
    Your original post has one of you in Vic and the other not.
    I need to know which is which and where each is.

  40. Dr Faustus

    What arts PhD had coursework?

    Unless you come straight out of Honours or a Masters by research, PhD candidates have to do a coursework thing call Research Methods, or similar.

    Assessment is an essay in which you have to use the terms ‘epistemology’, ‘ontology’ and ‘never quote Wikipedia’ in a correct context.
    A 6 is a conceded pass.

  41. I take nothing you post or write seriously.

    Writes Mater Mitty, who spends dollops of time and energy reading everything I post here, on my blog, and in my book.
    Pull the other one etc….

  42. Infidel Tiger King

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    @nntaleb
    ·
    11h
    LEBANESE DIASPORA

    Stop the BS & the statements. Find pple in your circle who lost their home & offer $$ to rebuild.

    Talk is cheap. Don’t call with words, call with $$. Now.

    PS- I block everyone engaging in conspiracy theories under such a tragedy.

  43. jsan

    rickw,

    Yes, I think so. However, there are no flights out of Australia with any airline until 31 October (I checked). Except of course if I was one of the ruling classes, which I’m not…

  44. Some History

    Sutton decided to go into politics. His moral compass is getting a major workout.

    An interesting radio interview from 1 month ago. At 38mins – 39.5mins, Sutton addresses a question regarding “herd immunity”, indicating that the idea of herd immunity had been abandoned by government/Public Health. The brief reasons he gives for this abandonment do not sound right at all.

    Victorian Chief Health Officer – Professor Brett Sutton- In Community Conversation with Clayton

    https://soundcloud.com/899lightfm/victorian-chief-health-officer-professor-brett-sutton-in-community-conversation-with-clayton

  45. P

    What’s the direct impact on the Christian communities of Lebanon, and what has their response been?

    I cannot say the impact on Christians was more than on Mu slims. It is the same. We’re all on the same boat.

    The explosion was so big and so huge for us that it damaged the whole city; not only the surrounding vicinity [of the blast], but the whole city miles away from the harbor was damaged.

    The damage is vast. We have two hospitals — one in Gemmayzeh operated by the Rosary Sisters. It was evacuated, as the damage was so huge. They cannot keep any patient inside. And now the whole vicinity of the hospital was evacuated.

    The same for Beirut’s Orthodox hospital: St. George Hospital. One of the largest and most important hospitals in the Middle East is damaged. It’s completely out of electricity: There is no activity, no communication inside it, and they had to evacuate it. This hospital had 500 to 600 beds. This is a real loss for Beirut at this critical time of coronavirus and this disaster.

  46. jsan

    MF – no I’m in QLD and my mother lives overseas (Sinclair’s olde country)

  47. MatrixTransform

    Turns out there is a supply chain analyst in the family who used to be in the food manufacturing industry

    is It working from home or still stacking shelves

  48. incoherent rambler

    3aw

    Leaked government modelling published by The Australian today suggests Victoria’s COVID-19 peak is weeks away, with daily numbers tipped to go above 1000 for eight days.

    But an epidemiologist has cast doubt on the figures.
    Leaked government modelling published by The Australian today suggests Victoria’s COVID-19 peak is weeks away, with daily numbers tipped to go above 1000 for eight days.

    But an epidemiologist has cast doubt on the figures.

    Deakin University Chair in Epidemiology, Professor Catherine Bennett, says she was “a bit surprised” by the modelling.

    She says our tougher lockdown rules are working, despite yesterday’s record high number of new cases.

    “It is working, we just can’t see it in the numbers,” she told Ross and Russel.
    Deakin University Chair in Epidemiology, Professor Catherine Bennett, says she was “a bit surprised” by the modelling.

    She says our tougher lockdown rules are working, despite yesterday’s record high number of new cases.

    It is working, we just can’t see it in the numbers,” she told Ross and Russel.

    Women can’t resist me and line up outside my door.
    Tis true, you just can’t see it in the numbers.

    Spoken like a true sciolist.

  49. Further to the supply chain discussion, page 6 of the Hun. Under manufacturing there is a paragraph:
    Some manufacturing businesses that have been ordered to close provide products needed by other factories and plants that can stay open. Business leaders want the state government to take a more granular look at how the restrictions will jam supply chains.

    Under warehousing and distribution:
    Staffing numbers:
    Supermarket distribution centres have to cut their peak workforce by a third. With demand for products increasing, forcing the introduction of limits, there are concerns staff at warehouses won’t be able to keep up. This would lead to shortages of some products on supermarket shelves. Staffing limits at suppliers, particularly at abbatoirs, is also expected to limit availability of products.
    Integrated national supply chain:
    Retail businesses and supermarkets have Victorian warehouses and distribution centres that are part of broader national supply chains. There are concerns in the industry Victoria cannot become an “isolated island” because neighbouring states rely on Victoria to pick up the slack when they experience shortages and supply chain breakdowns.

    It won’t be just shortages of food or dunny paper. There will be mechanical things, building materials, whatever else we need for a society to function. We’re just about fucked.

  50. Infidel Tiger King

    Jason Whitlock
    @WhitlockJason

    Derek Chauvin abused his power and went too far. It wasn’t over $20. It was over George Floyd’s refusal to comply and being behind the wheel of a vehicle while clearly high. Police were called over the $20 fake bill. It sounds good on Twitter to say it was over $20. Not true.

    https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1291104941680074753

  51. MatrixTransform

    Assessment is an essay in which you have to use the terms ‘epistemology’, ‘ontology’ and ‘never quote Wikipedia’ in a correct context.
    A 6 is a conceded pass.

    the word ‘trope’ is always good for an extra couple of %

  52. Farmer Gez

    The Cats Gryan Miers gives Pat (The Preacher) Dangerfield a blast for his attitude to his team mates.

    “ Don’t know what he’s complaining about when he’s the one kicking it over our heads.”

    Well said young fella.

  53. Barry

    Virgin’s boss predicts the coronavirus pandemic will halt international travel for the airline until at least 2023 after 3000 jobs were cut.

    This is a catastrophe. I know 4 Engineering Services firms in Vicstasiland that together rely heavily on west coast US for business. If they can’t travel, the US competitors will eat their lunch. Local business opportunity is negligible.

    Cumulatively there is probably AUD300Mio in foreign revenue that will just evaporate, and 100’s of high-end jobs lost.

  54. notafan

    ‘Other states rely on Victoria’.

    Oh dear.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault

    #3537610, posted on August 6, 2020 at 12:01 pm

    Jsan,
    Your anger and grief are both understandable.
    Your original post has one of you in Vic and the other not.
    I need to know which is which and where each is.

    No.
    You don’t need to know anything, you meddling old buffoon.
    My take was that jsan just wanted to let off some steam and wasn’t asking you to fix bayonets to your nerf gun and storm the ticket counter at Qantas.
    Fuck, the last thing a grieving person needs is to associate with a maudlin old codger like you.
    They would probably end up with [xxxxxxx xxxx] and in [xxxx xxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxxx].
    .
    (Enough of that LL … Sinc)

  56. max

    A good night it was too. 🙂

    Chuckle. You’re terrible, Muriel.

  57. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Anna Ponygirl announced QLD was ready and prepared to take “refugees” from Beirut within a few hours of the explosion.

    must.always.virtue.signal

  58. Notafan:
    I realise the article was six years ago, but I’ve got a Cardiac Stress Test on the 17th this month in Brisbane and I could really do without being stuffed around by fuel issues.
    Already had it cancelled once, along with the appointment for cataract removal.
    Grrr.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    The Cats Gryan Miers gives Pat (The Preacher) Dangerfield a blast for his attitude to his team mates.

    “ Don’t know what he’s complaining about when he’s the one kicking it over our heads.”

    Paddy.
    Always looking for a teammate goal umpire in a better position.

  60. feelthebern

    Howard Marks released a memo this morning.
    He’s copied ITK’s comments from last week on US GDP verbatim.
    Ergo ITK is Howard Marks.

    PS, Howard Marks is chap that Uncle Warren drops everything to read when memo’s are released.

  61. Infidel Tiger King

    Your original post has one of you in Vic and the other not.
    I need to know which is which and where each is.

    What were you going to advise? “Put themm last”

  62. Leigh Lowe

    Anna Ponygirl announced QLD was ready and prepared to take “refugees” from Beirut within a few hours of the explosion.

    Yes.
    Do we have an actual link for that because it is not up to a State Premier to declare refugee status.

  63. feelthebern

    Wiki says Marks is worth US2bill.
    ITK, what’s it like being a billionaire?

  64. notafan

    In any case anything that undermines Dan Andrew’s incredibly stupid destroy the economy rules is fine by me.

    Anything that forces him to back down is fine by me.

    I’d be more than happy to see empty supermarkets, no medicine in pharmacies etc if it forced him to reverse his insane lockdowns.

    I’m also waiting to to see if local member replies to my reply.

    I’ve engaged others to write (sensible) letters too.

    Can’t hurt.

  65. Leigh Lowe

    If jsan is looking for someone to empathise with his/her predicament, areff has just been through a similar experience (albeit without the Indian Ocean complicating matters).

  66. feelthebern

    Wiki is wrong.
    Marks would have to be worth more than that.

  67. MemoryFault

    Jsan

    In that case, sorry, I can’t help.
    In some cases I can help arrange something in the Eastern States of Oz, but o’seas is out of my league.

  68. notafan

    Winston

    Was just to illustrate that private enterprise can act swiftly to resolve severe supply chain interruptions.

    Not suggesting that fuel is in trouble this time.

  69. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From incoherent rambler at 11:08 am:

    “Pfft. $2m here, $2m there, pretty soon …”

    As touched on above, $2,000,000 due in 30 years will have attracted $1,600,000 interest at 2% pa and another million at 4% – easy money. It is just lovely to be lovely to all peoples – to be a show off … notwithstanding a hundred or a thousand or a million will be instantly trousered by the biggest of the big men and the mitt will be thrust forward for more, now that the donor has demonstrated so clearly they are really stupid.

    Then Pony Girl fronts to confirm they never grow up and lose that determination to spend daddy’s money, wherever that comes from.

  70. Bluddy L. Have you seen the enormous front forecast to track across the Bight on Mon/Tue.
    The thing extends from Macquarie Island to Singapore.
    If it was in QLD we would be hit with a new tax.

  71. Boambee John

    jsan

    Sympathy to you and your mother.

    I was thinking about the Grey quote a few days ago, in many ways, we are entering darker days.

  72. Black Ball:

    It won’t be just shortages of food or dunny paper. There will be mechanical things, building materials, whatever else we need for a society to function. We’re just about fucked.

    Perhaps not utterly fucked, Black Ball, but by God it’ll be a fabulous rogering.
    Bring lubricant.

  73. MatrixTransform

    Was just to illustrate that private enterprise can act swiftly to resolve severe supply chain interruptions.

    I love the circus
    expecially the clowns that spin the plates on top of the sticks

  74. Old School Conservative

    One more reason to avoid cruising.
    The Orient Queen cruise ship capsized in the [Beirut] blast. followed by a picture of the smallish cruise liner lying on its side next to the port.
    (The Oz)

  75. Leigh Lowe

    MemoryFault

    #3537650, posted on August 6, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    Jsan

    In that case, sorry, I can’t help.
    In some cases I can help arrange something in the Eastern States of Oz, but o’seas is out of my league.

    Breaking news folks:-
    There are jurisdictional limits to Faulty’s Sphere of Influence.

  76. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Your original post has one of you in Vic and the other not.
    I need to know which is which and where each is.’

    Seriously? That’s not an enquiry, not a question and not a polite request. That’s a flat out demand for a bereaved person to provide personal details so they can be transferred to The Mighty Website(s).

    Astounding. I was beaten to the punch anyway, by:

    ‘No.
    You don’t need to know anything, you meddling old buffoon.’

    Amazing. Gimme gimme gimme.

  77. Infidel Tiger King

    ITK, what’s it like being a billionaire?

    You don’t have to wear the same pair of jocks twice.

  78. Mark A

    jsan
    #3537616, posted on August 6, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    rickw,

    Yes, I think so. However, there are no flights out of Australia with any airline until 31 October (I checked). Except of course if I was one of the ruling classes, which I’m not…

    Sorry, that is not correct, Qatar, the airline I always fly with has flights available in Aug if you have a permit to leave and the destination country accepts you.

    I’m sure there are other airlines as well.

  79. MatrixTransform

    beaten to the punch

    I backspaced over mine … something about The Cat’s very own Joe Biden

  80. Winston Smith, I beg to differ. Final paragraph of the Hun, page 7:
    “McDonald’s is another business to question whether it’s drive-through services can remain open during Melbourne’s curfew, and has sought advice from the government.”
    This is serious man, SERIOUS!

  81. Top Ender

    Talking Point: We don’t need another Sheean review, we need another hero

    The panel was expected to report back on Friday, but we already know what the answer should be, writes SHAYNE NEUMANN

    Shayne Neumann, Mercury

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced in June he had convened an expert panel to review the case of Teddy Sheean after sustained pressure from Labor, ordinary Tasmanians and the veteran community over his refusal to award a Victoria Cross to the Tasmanian war hero.

    The panel was expected to report back on Friday on the 2019 review by the independent Defence Honours Awards Appeals Tribunal (the Tribunal) that unanimously recommended a posthumous VC for Sheean.

    While Labor’s view is that this review of a review was an unnecessary waste of time and money, it has at least provided fresh hope the Prime Minister might award Sheean the honour he is so clearly owed.

    After all, any objective examination of the facts and of government policy would lead to that conclusion.

    Scott Morrison’s review was based on false premises and misleading assertions that need to be called out.

    Firstly, the stated rationale for the expert panel review seemed to hinge on the Prime Minister’s assertion there are different views on whether there is compelling new evidence about Sheean’s actions in 1942.

    The Prime Minister questioned whether last year’s review by the tribunal had any significant new and compelling evidence to support a recommendation that a Mention in Despatches be replaced by a VC.

    As tribunal chairman Mark Sullivan himself pointed out in an explosive letter to Defence Minister Linda Reynolds, the tribunal’s comprehensive merits-based review did find compelling new evidence of Sheean’s bravery, which clearly met the criteria for a VC, consistent with clear and longstanding policy. This included that the young sailor returned to the sinking HMAS Armidale from a lifeboat after being ordered to abandon ship so he could fire a gun at Japanese aircraft strafing his comrades in the water, shooting down at least one aircraft before dying at his gun and going down with the ship.

    These findings are a matter of fact and have not been disputed, including by Defence. So to say there are different views is simply disingenuous. It is an extraordinary example of courage under fire and it’s hard to know what more anyone could do to earn the honour.

    Second, the Prime Minister has suggested that historic awards involve a higher bar and has invoked VC recipients like Keith Payne to argue a retrospective VC would create a two-tiered system of honours. But Keith Payne has supported a VC for Teddy Sheean, so this argument does not stack up.

    Third, Scott Morrison has implied a historic VC would somehow undermine the integrity of the system.

    What he ignores is that two posthumous VCs have been awarded to British Navy personnel and the tribunal found Sheean’s actions exceeded those of these “strikingly similar” cases.

    So it’s clear the Prime Minister’s stated reasons for his decision to snub Teddy and commission the new review simply do not check out.

    If anything, it’s the Morrison Government’s decision to ignore the tribunal that has undermined the integrity of the system and is a trashing of good process.

    In 2019, Chief of Navy Vice Admiral Michael Noonan, in representing the Defence Department, said the independent tribunal was the “most appropriate decision-making body” to determine whether an individual’s gallantry was worthy of a VC.

    Unlike the Prime Minister’s panel — we know two members are being paid more than $30,000 each for about six weeks’ work — the tribunal is an expert panel whose members include lawyers, military historians and veterans.

    It was established by the former Labor government to independently consider honours and awards outside of Defence and keep the politics out of these decisions.

    It’s unacceptable for the government to ignore this respected body and it sets a dangerous precedent that future recommendations could be dismissed at the whim of politicians.

    For our part, Labor in government always accepted the recommendations of the tribunal.

    Putting all that aside, now the Prime Minister will have this new report, there is an opportunity to swallow his pride and reverse his earlier decision.

    As a first step he should release the panel’s report publicly as soon as possible to ensure transparency. The government can’t sit on this for months as they have with numerous reports, including the tribunal’s 2019 report.

    Better yet, the Prime Minister could save himself the time and simply move to recommend that Teddy Sheean be granted the VC immediately. After all, in these challenging and uncertain times, we don’t need another review, but we do need another hero.

    Shayne Neumann is federal Labor spokesman for Veterans’ Affairs and Defence Personnel and member for Blair, Queensland.

    Hobart Mercury

  82. Unless you come straight out of Honours or a Masters by research, PhD candidates have to do a coursework thing call Research Methods, or similar.

    That’s about the size of it.
    Two Unis were prepared, subject to finding a supervisor, to allow me to go straight into my Ph D on the strength of past publications and RPL.
    Because I haven’t been near academia since the mid-eighties, and my previous degrees are in a very different field (special education) I took different advice from two extended family members who have finished their doctorates more recently to complete a research Masters first.
    On the basis of the last two semesters’ results, that was good advice.
    I have plenty of time, and looking at work done in this field by fellow veterans, discovered a trove of material which has opened up some fascinating areas of research.
    The mythology surrounding this particular conflict is extraordinary.
    Dapin’s two books, considering the conceptual journey he made from the first to the second, are a good lead-in, as is Gerry Lembcke’s American work.

  83. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Breaking news folks:-
    There are jurisdictional limits to Faulty’s Sphere of Influence.’

    Timely, given it’s Big Bang Day.

    ‘Faulty’s Greater Eastern States Co-Prosperity Sphere*.’

    *Now hiring.

  84. MatrixTransform

    shit just got real here.

    Me and the missus argue over who gets to the dishes

    bored

  85. Infidel Tiger King

    “McDonald’s is another business to question whether it’s drive-through services can remain open during Melbourne’s curfew, and has sought advice from the government.”

    If Jim’s Mowing can’t mow, the drive thrus must be shut immediately.

    Corporatists must feel the pain that small business is feeling.

  86. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Because I haven’t been near academia since the mid-eighties’

    Before OR since, judging by the content.

    Duh.

  87. Lodger from Oz

    Winston Smith
    #3537552, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:34 am

    Ha ha!

    Winston – it looks a bit more like Johnny Farnham. Make Sadie Great Again.

  88. Spoke to a very distressed woman yesterday.
    Her man disappeared off to the Seychelles in early March to help out his ailing Mum.
    He can’t get back. Apparently if you transit through East Africa, nobody wants anything to do with you.

  89. thefrollickingmole

    Heres that “conservatism is dead” piece i couldn’t link yesterday.
    Well worth a look.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/american-conservatism-is-fiddling-while-rome-burns/

    Conservatism is the seven cheers for capitalism and the deafening silence on demographic change, feminism, and corporate malfeasance. It’s the same tired cast of speakers blathering about limited government almost a century after the New Deal. It’s the platitudinous Reagan quotes and the worn-out Buckley anecdotes. It’s the mindless optimism and the childish exhortations—if something can’t go on forever, it won’t!

    If it were only that, conservatism would simply be a harmless persuasion for nostalgic Baby Boomers. Or to be more generous, one big Benedict Option to offer a semblance of an alternative to the pervasive progressivism of our age.

    But conservatism is also the endless wars, the nation-building, and the outdated alliances. It’s the free trade fetish. It’s the foolish libertarianism that hates the government more than it loves America. It’s the unconscionable refusal to clamp down on immigration.

    Worst of all, conservatism is the cowardice and accommodation in the face of leftist hegemony. It’s the long list of enemies to the Right. It’s the court eunuchs and other members of the controlled opposition who offer an echo, but never a choice. It’s the faux grandstanding while living in fear of being called a racist.

    Admittedly, this is not the whole of conservatism. There are still dissidents, contrarian thinkers, and courageous gadflies who refuse to lick the boots that crush them. Alas, their voices are, more often than not, drowned out by those of the conservative establishment.

    ….
    This new Right understands not just ideas, but power. The Left’s ideological hegemony is not principally the result of better ideas, but of its long march through the institutions. We understand the need to build new institutions—in particular those with the power to shape public opinion—and to reconquer lost ones or, at the very least, defund them. The universities, in particular, must be brought to heel.

    We also understand the importance of knowing how to govern. However much we may long for a return to constitutional government, the modern administrative-welfare state is here to stay. No one, not even the great Reagan, has succeeded in taming it, much less scaling it back. The right must be comfortable wielding the levers of state power. And it should emulate the Left in using them to reward friends and punish enemies (within the confines of the rule of law).

    Ours is obviously a non-libertarian Right. The common enemy that justified an alliance with the free market fundamentalists is long gone. Today, libertarians actively side with our enemies: they promote open borders and empty prisons, and strengthen China’s hand through their consumer-focused economic policies. Ours is primarily a conservatism of countries and borders, citizens and families, none of which can take root in the barren libertarian soil of atomized individuals and global markets.

  90. Farmer Gez

    Prices for lambs are 200 cents a kilo below last year with the indicators clearly showing the hit started in late June and early July. That’s about a $50 a head hit to farmers returns.

    If you’re thinking it’s about a big supply, you couldn’t be more wrong. Markets are running at a third of normal numbers.

    Once again the private sector is kicked in the arse by fat fearful bureaucrats.

  91. Some History

    And this is not to single out Sutton. Government Public Health around the country – State & Federal – is constantly conferring; it’s one bubble. The problem is Public Health: The way it goes about things, the way it perceives circumstances, and how much power it has been allowed to exert over elected officials.

    Government should have been telling Public Health from the outset. This is a relatively free society. Complete shutdowns of society are not on… don’t even go there. These are the parameters in which you can work. Within those parameters, tell us what we can do to best address covid-19.

  92. woolfe

    Hey Jsan Perth is in Australia (not seceded yet) and there are flights available to Dubai this month.

  93. notafan

    I’m assuming maccas mean between 8 pm and 5am.

  94. jsan

    Thanks for all the advice. Checked Qatar, but no international entry allowed into my destination country

  95. incoherent rambler

    My next tip for FallApartLotto™ is for a transmission or generation failure in Viktoristan (for want of a nail).
    Blackouts.
    Freezing cold, wet weather says it has to happen.

  96. notafan

    The meat thing is also ideological.

    Can you not imagine all those rabid crusading vegan PETA climateers being absolutely delighted about damaging the ”rotting flesh’ industry.

  97. Gab

    I can’t imagine how heartbreaking and infuriating this is for you, jsan. I’m sorry you and your Mother have to endure this. And my sincere condolences to you. May your sister rest in peace.

  98. incoherent rambler

    And this is not to single out Sutton.

    And why not?

    Candidate for the first HoP.

  99. MemoryFault

    Once again the private sector is kicked in the arse by fat fearful bureaucrats.

    Would they be the same “fat fearful bureaucrats” whose jobs are all guaranteed, who are all getting pay rises, can now afford to eat lamb seven times a week, will soon be buying investment properties at dirt cheap mortgagee auctions, and are planning renovations to their own homes financed in part by our grandchildren?

    Just what are they “fearful” of? That the gravy train will stop?

  100. bespoke

    Stocked up the freezer yesterday with $100 worth of beef, lamb and chicken from my favourite butcher

    Three or four day max supply for me.

  101. Some History

    At today’s Vic presser, the media is asking much tougher questions. Andrews and the Deputy* CHO are on the back foot.

    * The CHO is on 3 days leave until Friday.

  102. MatrixTransform

    Polis: Where are you going
    Me: To the shops
    Polis Is it for essential items?
    Me: Nah, you got me … its because I’m the leader of the Rebel Alliance.

  103. Most construction projects affected. I did say most. From page 11 of the Hun:
    “The state government has seized control of plans for a 13 storey building in Richmond’s popular Swan Street precinct.
    Planning Minister Richard Wynne has called in the contentious plan from Yarra Council, suggesting the development should go ahead in the interests of the state economy.
    The development would replace 5 Edwardian cottages with a building packed with apartments, offices, shops and a supermarket.
    Food and beverage outlets and a pedestrian walkway linking Swan Street to Burnley Station would be included.
    In a letter to Yarra Mayor Misha Coleman, Mr Wynne said the project would ‘result in capital expenditure of $323 million and employment creation of 530 construction jobs and 3000 ongoing jobs’.
    The council had raised concerns about setbacks, traffic, road infrastructure and streetscape works as well as wind and potential overshadowing of Burnley Station.
    Stripped of its powers to intervene, the council will support the proposal with modifications to the plans.”

    So questions arise. Would this development be government owned? Why must this go ahead yet construction of houses for mum and dad be put on hold? Fair bit of stench wafting from this already.

  104. will

    Top Ender
    #3537293, posted on August 6, 2020 at 8:46 am
    Down in his Qld basement Kevin Rudd plots every day to try to remain in the public eye.

    when you miss out on a UN gig, what else is there?

  105. rickw

    Sorry, that is not correct, Qatar, the airline I always fly with has flights available in Aug if you have a permit to leave and the destination country accepts you.

    Correct, I work at the airport, there are international flights still leaving, with pax.

  106. MatrixTransform

    Polis: Where are you going?
    Me: work
    Polis: What sort of work is that?
    Me: I sortta fix things electro-mechanical
    Polis: You don’t look like your’e going to work.
    Me: Well, you don’t look like Sherlock Holmes either, mate

  107. Pedro the Loafer

    Some flog at my local coffee shop this morning loudly proclaiming the dropping the A-Bomb on Hiroshima was a war crime.

    Said flog loudly shouted down by the morning crew.

    That’s not a war crime, THIS is a war crime.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    The Cats Gryan Miers gives Pat (The Preacher) Dangerfield a blast for his attitude to his team mates.

    “ Don’t know what he’s complaining about when he’s the one kicking it over our heads.”

    Maybe the coach instructed the midfield to only pass it to someone with a remotely sensible first name.

  109. incoherent rambler

    Reneweconomy and AEMO have VIK power demand exceeding generation by more than a gigawatt.

    She’s gunna blow cap’n!

  110. Helen

    I was sweeping a floor in the room that the linen was housed in when Buddy Holly died. I was driving cross country with a load of hessian and a foal on the back, just after a big horse muster when Di bought it. Captain was broken down with a flat grader tyre at the same time. At a place he later called Princess Di. We didn’t know each other then.

  111. Some History

    From today’s presser

    Hunchback: The Public Health, medical, advice is what we go by… the “experts”. It’s in their judgement that Stage 4 lockdown is the ONLY option. My job is to implement it.

  112. Leigh Lowe

    “McDonald’s is another business to question whether it’s drive-through services can remain open during Melbourne’s curfew, and has sought advice from the government.”

    If Jim’s Mowing can’t mow, the drive thrus must be shut immediately.

    Yep. Shut everything.
    When ‘ssential frontline wukkers can’t get Makkas or buy milk at 10:00 pm the shit will start to pile up.

  113. Boambee John

    The mythology surrounding this particular conflict is extraordinary.

    As extraordinary as the mythology surrounding some people’s service in WW II?

  114. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    * The CHO is on 3 days leave until Friday.

    Just like Eisenhower, Monty, Patton, et al did as soon as they learned of the German push in the Ardennes – went on several days leave, coz “all plumb tuckered out” from having missed a couple of RDOs.

  115. Top Ender

    A bit hard transcribing the article for the Cat …. lots of Twitter pix and so on…but have a go reading – very funny.

    Before fulminating about Israel Folau, Peter FitzSimons should review his past comments

    THE MOCKER

    Dear Sir,

    How dare Catalans Dragons player Israel Folau not take a knee for the noble Black Lives Matter movement? It takes my breath away. Why won’t he act the way I think is proper? Perhaps I need to write more columns about him. But I’m so angry I’d have trouble conforming to a word limit if I listed everything he does that upsets me.

    Peter FitzSimons

    It is, of course, Folau’s absolute right not to “take a knee” with the other 25 players.
    It still takes my breath away regardless.
    Seriously, Israel?
    The downside of expressing solidarity with a movement that believes we are all equal, & deserve equal treatment would be . . ? https://t.co/TD60J7G1HL

    — Peter FitzSimons (@Peter_Fitz) August 2, 2020

    Dear Peter,

    It takes my breath away too. Why won’t Folau support a peaceful movement that has destroyed property, burned buildings, looted countless businesses, wants to abolish the police, and is founded on Marxist principles? Beats me.

    Your unequalled insight into Folau is not disputed. To quote from your column last December “As one who has followed the issues closely … and who has written and ranted about it extensively, I am more aware than most of the damage he [Folau] has done, the hurt he has caused …” Modesty is but one of your many admirable attributes.

    You now want to list all of Folau’s faults in your column, but by the time you have plugged your books, dropped the names of who you and the wife hobnobbed it with on the weekend, reminded readers you were the only Australian rugby player sent off for “violence” against the New Zealand All Blacks, casually mentioned you are a pro chancellor at the University of Sydney, alerted us to your being a friend and acquaintance of prime ministers and premiers, let us know that you were approached to run for the seat of Warringah, told us yet again that membership numbers are “surging” at the Australian Republic Movement (of which you are Chair of course) – truth is, there is not enough room to do your outrage justice.

    One further piece of advice: before fulminating about Folau any further I would recommend you review your various stances on players using the field the advance their ideologies. You in 2011 on Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow and his habit of thanking Jesus Christ for his achievements: “Go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.’’ You in 2018 on former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick: “A nation which prides itself on the right to freedom of speech … can’t claim to actually live by those values when it so severely punishes one of their own when he exercises that right …” You in 2019 on about Rugby Australia’s move to dismiss Folau over his social media posts regarding damnation for gays, drunks, fornicators and liars “This is not an infringement of your freedom of speech, but what you got is you don’t have freedom from consequences.” You in 2019 on NRL indigenous players’ refusal to sing the national anthem (“Bravo” for “making a stand”).

    You would have great difficulty in explaining these inconsistent stances, not to mention trying to reconcile them with Folau’s non-participation in the latest feel-good fad. To use a sporting analogy: it is reminiscent of a certain former Wallabies player and his ill-advised decision many years ago to start a blue with the French team. It ended very badly for him. Let’s just say he was full of energy, flailing, determined to land his punches – none of which connected.

    ******************************************************************************

    Dear Sir,

    I am a 16-year-old student who seeks your advice about an international excursion my school is planning for next year. As part of this we will be visiting various monuments in Washington DC, including the Lincoln Memorial.

    Although I look forward to this, I realise at my age I have a lot to learn about how to react in unforeseen situations. For example, I admit to liking ‘Make America Great Again’ caps. Am I correct in saying the First Amendment of the American Constitution gives me the right to wear this cap in public? Also, what should I do if I am standing at a memorial minding my own business and some Native American man goes out of his way to beat a drum inches from my face while he eyeballs me and wails continuously? Rather than react to his provocation, should I just chill?

    Michael

    ******************************************************************************

    Dear Michael,

    Thank you for your email. I am concerned, however, at the language of your hypothetical as well as the implied premises, not to mention your political inclinations. As ABC journalist Ellen Fanning, co-host of The Drum, has observed, even the mere wearing of MAGA caps is “divisive” and the cause of “tension”. You know, much like women provoke wolf-whistling by the provocative way they dress.

    I find it difficult to believe your average 16-year-old would not know what to do in these circumstances. To suggest the correct response in that hypothetical would be to “just chill” is indicative of your toxic masculinity and Trumpian aggression. Enough with your sophistry about the First Amendment. I know full well what hate speech is, whether express or implied. You would probably claim that it was a natural reaction to smile in bemusement, knowing full well the enormity of your actions.

    To answer your question: the correct response would be to burst into tears, discard the MAGA cap, get on your knees and acknowledge your privilege. Later, you should write effusively about your awakening. Talk about how the beating of the drum and the Native American’s singing hypnotised you, cleansed your soul, and took you to a pre-Columbus land in which indigenous people lived in harmony with the environment. To reiterate: WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT SMILE.

    ******************************************************************************

    Nicholas Sandmann – the Covington Catholic High School student vilified by leftist media last year in what became known as the Lincoln Memorial confrontation – is not just smiling; he is laughing all the way to the bank. Last month the Washington Post agreed to settle his $250m defamation lawsuit. This was on top of CNN’S settlement of Sandmann’s $275m lawsuit in January.

    He and his classmates were falsely accused of surrounding and taunting Nathan Phillips, a Native American man and purported Vietnam veteran, in Washington DC. In selectively edited video excerpts, Sandmann, then 16, was portrayed as a menacing bully who confronted Phillips while the latter was peacefully playing a tribal instrument.

    The truth was that just prior to the incident the group of students had been racially abused and taunted by a group of protesters known as the Black Hebrew Israelites. In response the students cheered and chanted to drown out these insults. Phillips, having decided to get involved, walked to the students, and stood directly in front of Sandmann.

    “They (the students) were in the process of attacking these four black individuals,” Phillips later told Detroit Free Press. “The looks in these young men’s face … if you go back and look at the lynchings that was done (in America) … and you’d see the faces on the people … The glee and the hatred in their faces, that’s what these faces looked like.”

    But the video showed the students were doing no such thing. Nor was there any evidence to corroborate Phillip’s claim he heard the students chant “build the wall”. What of the claim that Phillips is a Vietnam veteran? He later “clarified” for a forgiving media he was actually a “Vietnam-era” or “Vietnam-times” veteran, having served in the Marine Corps Reserve from 1972 to 1976 and never having deployed overseas.

    This was put down to a transcription error. Had journalists done their job properly, they would have quickly ascertained Phillips was an inveterate liar and a perpetrator of what is known as “stolen valour”. In 2008, while officiating at Arlington National Cemetery, he referred to when he came “back” from Vietnam, saying “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me”. There is undated footage of him on YouTube (9.45-10.30) saying “I’m a Vietnam vet” who served “in theatre”. In 2018, Phillips told Vogue Magazine “I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger.” In fact, Phillips’s military service consisted mostly of carrying out reconnaissance on refrigerators as a technician.

    The media’s motive was simple: by portraying the students as MAGA racists and bullies they could by extension attribute their actions to US President Donald Trump. In their eagerness to do so they came close to destroying an innocent adolescent. Celebrities and commentators alike joined in the throng. Sandmann and his family received death threats. Why? Because he had worn a MAGA cap and smiled.

    But all that was drowned out in progressive outrage. The ABC’s then Washington correspondent Zoe Daniel tweeted “This is truly awful” in response to the false reports that the students harassed Phillips. The Sydney Morning Herald reported that Sandmann’s face bore “a relentless smirk”. Peter FitzSimons, a columnist of that newspaper angrily tweeted this was a case of “Sneering punks disgracing themselves, their school and their country”.

    Only days after the incident, Michael Rowland of ABC TV News Breakfast described the expression on Sandmann’s face as “pure hate”. His co-host Lisa Millar said of Sandmann “It’s this shot here that bothers me the most I think – he’s sort of standing in his [Phillips’s] face – trying to – it would appear he’s trying to intimidate”.

    “All of this on the backdrop of two years since President Trump was inaugurated,” said Millar. “You know where I’d build that wall,” asked Rowland. “Right around that [Covington] college.” There is a wall all right, but it surrounds the ABC mindset. As columnist Gerard Henderson observed in this newspaper last week, the ABC has for nearly two years refused to correct this report.

    The final word on this affair goes to Guardian columnist Jason Wilson. When doubts about the authenticity of initial media reports emerged, his reaction, in what is perhaps described as an act of Orwellian comedy, was to write that “liberal media has almost completely backed away from their initial, justified take on the story”.

    THE MOCKER
    The Mocker amuses himself by calling out poseurs, sneering social commentators, and po-faced officials.

    Oz link

  116. Makka

    Joe spectacularly flunks his first media interview in 80 odd days…

  117. Top Ender

    A bit hard transcribing the article for the Cat …. lots of Twitter pix and so on…but have a go reading – very funny.

    Before fulminating about Israel Folau, Peter FitzSimons should review his past comments

    THE MOCKER

    Dear Sir,

    How dare Catalans Dragons player Israel Folau not take a knee for the noble Black Lives Matter movement? It takes my breath away. Why won’t he act the way I think is proper? Perhaps I need to write more columns about him. But I’m so angry I’d have trouble conforming to a word limit if I listed everything he does that upsets me.

    Peter FitzSimons

    It is, of course, Folau’s absolute right not to “take a knee” with the other 25 players.
    It still takes my breath away regardless.
    Seriously, Israel?
    The downside of expressing solidarity with a movement that believes we are all equal, & deserve equal treatment would be . . ? https://t.co/TD60J7G1HL

    — Peter FitzSimons (@Peter_Fitz) August 2, 2020

    Dear Peter,

    It takes my breath away too. Why won’t Folau support a peaceful movement that has destroyed property, burned buildings, looted countless businesses, wants to abolish the police, and is founded on Marxist principles? Beats me.

    Your unequalled insight into Folau is not disputed. To quote from your column last December “As one who has followed the issues closely … and who has written and ranted about it extensively, I am more aware than most of the damage he [Folau] has done, the hurt he has caused …” Modesty is but one of your many admirable attributes.

    You now want to list all of Folau’s faults in your column, but by the time you have plugged your books, dropped the names of who you and the wife hobnobbed it with on the weekend, reminded readers you were the only Australian rugby player sent off for “violence” against the New Zealand All Blacks, casually mentioned you are a pro chancellor at the University of Sydney, alerted us to your being a friend and acquaintance of prime ministers and premiers, let us know that you were approached to run for the seat of Warringah, told us yet again that membership numbers are “surging” at the Australian Republic Movement (of which you are Chair of course) – truth is, there is not enough room to do your outrage justice.

    One further piece of advice: before fulminating about Folau any further I would recommend you review your various stances on players using the field the advance their ideologies. You in 2011 on Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow and his habit of thanking Jesus Christ for his achievements: “Go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.’’ You in 2018 on former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick: “A nation which prides itself on the right to freedom of speech … can’t claim to actually live by those values when it so severely punishes one of their own when he exercises that right …” You in 2019 on about Rugby Australia’s move to dismiss Folau over his social media posts regarding damnation for gays, drunks, fornicators and liars “This is not an infringement of your freedom of speech, but what you got is you don’t have freedom from consequences.” You in 2019 on NRL indigenous players’ refusal to sing the national anthem (“Bravo” for “making a stand”).

    You would have great difficulty in explaining these inconsistent stances, not to mention trying to reconcile them with Folau’s non-participation in the latest feel-good fad. To use a sporting analogy: it is reminiscent of a certain former Wallabies player and his ill-advised decision many years ago to start a blue with the French team. It ended very badly for him. Let’s just say he was full of energy, flailing, determined to land his punches – none of which connected.

    ******************************************************************************

    Dear Sir,

    I am a 16-year-old student who seeks your advice about an international excursion my school is planning for next year. As part of this we will be visiting various monuments in Washington DC, including the Lincoln Memorial.

    Although I look forward to this, I realise at my age I have a lot to learn about how to react in unforeseen situations. For example, I admit to liking ‘Make America Great Again’ caps. Am I correct in saying the First Amendment of the American Constitution gives me the right to wear this cap in public? Also, what should I do if I am standing at a memorial minding my own business and some Native American man goes out of his way to beat a drum inches from my face while he eye balls me and wails continuously? Rather than react to his provocation, should I just chill?

    Michael

    ******************************************************************************

    Dear Michael,

    Thank you for your email. I am concerned, however, at the language of your hypothetical as well as the implied premises, not to mention your political inclinations. As ABC journalist Ellen Fanning, co-host of The Drum, has observed, even the mere wearing of MAGA caps is “divisive” and the cause of “tension”. You know, much like women provoke wolf-whistling by the provocative way they dress.

    I find it difficult to believe your average 16-year-old would not know what to do in these circumstances. To suggest the correct response in that hypothetical would be to “just chill” is indicative of your toxic masculinity and Trumpian aggression. Enough with your sophistry about the First Amendment. I know full well what hate speech is, whether express or implied. You would probably claim that it was a natural reaction to smile in bemusement, knowing full well the enormity of your actions.

    To answer your question: the correct response would be to burst into tears, discard the MAGA cap, get on your knees and acknowledge your privilege. Later, you should write effusively about your awakening. Talk about how the beating of the drum and the Native American’s singing hypnotised you, cleansed your soul, and took you to a pre-Columbus land in which indigenous people lived in harmony with the environment. To reiterate: WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT SMILE.

    ******************************************************************************

    Nicholas Sandmann – the Covington Catholic High School student vilified by leftist media last year in what became known as the Lincoln Memorial confrontation – is not just smiling; he is laughing all the way to the bank. Last month the Washington Post agreed to settle his $250m defamation lawsuit. This was on top of CNN’S settlement of Sandmann’s $275m lawsuit in January.

    He and his classmates were falsely accused of surrounding and taunting Nathan Phillips, a Native American man and purported Vietnam veteran, in Washington DC. In selectively edited video excerpts, Sandmann, then 16, was portrayed as a menacing bully who confronted Phillips while the latter was peacefully playing a tribal instrument.

    The truth was that just prior to the incident the group of students had been racially abused and taunted by a group of protesters known as the Black Hebrew Israelites. In response the students cheered and chanted to drown out these insults. Phillips, having decided to get involved, walked to the students, and stood directly in front of Sandmann.

    “They (the students) were in the process of attacking these four black individuals,” Phillips later told Detroit Free Press. “The looks in these young men’s face … if you go back and look at the lynchings that was done (in America) … and you’d see the faces on the people … The glee and the hatred in their faces, that’s what these faces looked like.”

    But the video showed the students were doing no such thing. Nor was there any evidence to corroborate Phillip’s claim he heard the students chant “build the wall”. What of the claim that Phillips is a Vietnam veteran? He later “clarified” for a forgiving media he was actually a “Vietnam-era” or “Vietnam-times” veteran, having served in the Marine Corps Reserve from 1972 to 1976 and never having deployed overseas.

    This was put down to a transcription error. Had journalists done their job properly, they would have quickly ascertained Phillips was an inveterate liar and a perpetrator of what is known as “stolen valour”. In 2008, while officiating at Arlington National Cemetery, he referred to when he came “back” from Vietnam, saying “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me”. There is undated footage of him on YouTube (9.45-10.30) saying “I’m a Vietnam vet” who served “in theatre”. In 2018, Phillips told Vogue Magazine “I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger.” In fact, Phillips’s military service consisted mostly of carrying out reconnaissance on refrigerators as a technician.

    The media’s motive was simple: by portraying the students as MAGA racists and bullies they could by extension attribute their actions to US President Donald Trump. In their eagerness to do so they came close to destroying an innocent adolescent. Celebrities and commentators alike joined in the throng. Sandmann and his family received death threats. Why? Because he had worn a MAGA cap and smiled.

    But all that was drowned out in progressive outrage. The ABC’s then Washington correspondent Zoe Daniel tweeted “This is truly awful” in response to the false reports that the students harassed Phillips. The Sydney Morning Herald reported that Sandmann’s face bore “a relentless smirk”. Peter FitzSimons, a columnist of that newspaper angrily tweeted this was a case of “Sneering punks disgracing themselves, their school and their country”.

    Only days after the incident, Michael Rowland of ABC TV News Breakfast described the expression on Sandmann’s face as “pure hate”. His co-host Lisa Millar said of Sandmann “It’s this shot here that bothers me the most I think – he’s sort of standing in his [Phillips’s] face – trying to – it would appear he’s trying to intimidate”.

    “All of this on the backdrop of two years since President Trump was inaugurated,” said Millar. “You know where I’d build that wall,” asked Rowland. “Right around that [Covington] college.” There is a wall all right, but it surrounds the ABC mindset. As columnist Gerard Henderson observed in this newspaper last week, the ABC has for nearly two years refused to correct this report.

    The final word on this affair goes to Guardian columnist Jason Wilson. When doubts about the authenticity of initial media reports emerged, his reaction, in what is perhaps described as an act of Orwellian comedy, was to write that “liberal media has almost completely backed away from their initial, justified take on the story”.

    THE MOCKER
    The Mocker amuses himself by calling out poseurs, sneering social commentators, and po-faced officials.

    Oz link

  118. incoherent rambler

    When ‘ssential frontline wukkers can’t get Makkas or buy milk at 10:00 pm the shit will start to pile up.

    No it won’t, where do you thing vege burgers come from?

  119. Leigh Lowe

    Some flog at my local coffee shop this morning loudly proclaiming the dropping the A-Bomb on Hiroshima was a war crime.

    Tell them that those responsible (Enola Gray and Fat Boy Slim) have been arrested in Kansas this morning.

  120. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    <e

    m>Yep. Shut everything.
    When ‘ssential frontline wukkers can’t get Makkas or buy milk at 10:00 pm the shit will start to pile up.

    Yep.
    A couple of months into the lockdown (or whatever it was called) I spoke to at least 3 different people (public servants) via telephone who were completely unaware of the restrictions/closures/locked borders, etc.

    Pretty certain one of those incidents was recounted on this site (the first – coz I was “gobsmacked”)

  121. Top Ender

    A bit hard transcribing the article for the Cat …. lots of Twitter pix and so on…but have a go reading – very funny.

    Before fulminating about Israel Folau, Peter FitzSimons should review his past comments

    THE MOCKER

    Dear Sir,

    How dare Catalans Dragons player Israel Folau not take a knee for the noble Black Lives Matter movement? It takes my breath away. Why won’t he act the way I think is proper? Perhaps I need to write more columns about him. But I’m so angry I’d have trouble conforming to a word limit if I listed everything he does that upsets me.

    Peter FitzSimons

    It is, of course, Folau’s absolute right not to “take a knee” with the other 25 players.
    It still takes my breath away regardless.
    Seriously, Israel?
    The downside of expressing solidarity with a movement that believes we are all equal, & deserve equal treatment would be . . ? https://t.co/TD60J7G1HL

    — Peter FitzSimons (@Peter_Fitz) August 2, 2020

    Dear Peter,

    It takes my breath away too. Why won’t Folau support a peaceful movement that has destroyed property, burned buildings, looted countless businesses, wants to abolish the police, and is founded on Marxist principles? Beats me.

    Your unequalled insight into Folau is not disputed. To quote from your column last December “As one who has followed the issues closely … and who has written and ranted about it extensively, I am more aware than most of the damage he [Folau] has done, the hurt he has caused …” Modesty is but one of your many admirable attributes.

    You now want to list all of Folau’s faults in your column, but by the time you have plugged your books, dropped the names of who you and the wife hobnobbed it with on the weekend, reminded readers you were the only Australian rugby player sent off for “violence” against the New Zealand All Blacks, casually mentioned you are a pro chancellor at the University of Sydney, alerted us to your being a friend and acquaintance of prime ministers and premiers, let us know that you were approached to run for the seat of Warringah, told us yet again that membership numbers are “surging” at the Australian Republic Movement (of which you are Chair of course) – truth is, there is not enough room to do your outrage justice.

    One further piece of advice: before fulminating about Folau any further I would recommend you review your various stances on players using the field the advance their ideologies. You in 2011 on Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow and his habit of thanking Jesus Christ for his achievements: “Go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.’’ You in 2018 on former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick: “A nation which prides itself on the right to freedom of speech … can’t claim to actually live by those values when it so severely punishes one of their own when he exercises that right …” You in 2019 on about Rugby Australia’s move to dismiss Folau over his social media posts regarding damnation for gays, drunks, fornicators and liars “This is not an infringement of your freedom of speech, but what you got is you don’t have freedom from consequences.” You in 2019 on NRL indigenous players’ refusal to sing the national anthem (“Bravo” for “making a stand”).

    You would have great difficulty in explaining these inconsistent stances, not to mention trying to reconcile them with Folau’s non-participation in the latest feel-good fad. To use a sporting analogy: it is reminiscent of a certain former Wallabies player and his ill-advised decision many years ago to start a blue with the French team. It ended very badly for him. Let’s just say he was full of energy, flailing, determined to land his punches – none of which connected.

    ******************************************************************************

    Dear Sir,

    I am a 16-year-old student who seeks your advice about an international excursion my school is planning for next year. As part of this we will be visiting various monuments in Washington DC, including the Lincoln Memorial.

    Although I look forward to this, I realise at my age I have a lot to learn about how to react in unforeseen situations. For example, I admit to liking ‘Make America Great Again’ caps. Am I correct in saying the First Amendment of the American Constitution gives me the right to wear this cap in public? Also, what should I do if I am standing at a memorial minding my own business and some Native American man goes out of his way to beat a drum inches from my face while he eyeb alls me and wails continuously? Rather than react to his provocation, should I just chill?

    Michael

    ******************************************************************************

    Dear Michael,

    Thank you for your email. I am concerned, however, at the language of your hypothetical as well as the implied premises, not to mention your political inclinations. As ABC journalist Ellen Fanning, co-host of The Drum, has observed, even the mere wearing of MAGA caps is “divisive” and the cause of “tension”. You know, much like women provoke wolf-whistling by the provocative way they dress.

    I find it difficult to believe your average 16-year-old would not know what to do in these circumstances. To suggest the correct response in that hypothetical would be to “just chill” is indicative of your toxic masculinity and Trumpian aggression. Enough with your sophistry about the First Amendment. I know full well what hate speech is, whether express or implied. You would probably claim that it was a natural reaction to smile in bemusement, knowing full well the enormity of your actions.

    To answer your question: the correct response would be to burst into tears, discard the MAGA cap, get on your knees and acknowledge your privilege. Later, you should write effusively about your awakening. Talk about how the beating of the drum and the Native American’s singing hypnotised you, cleansed your soul, and took you to a pre-Columbus land in which indigenous people lived in harmony with the environment. To reiterate: WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT SMILE.

    ******************************************************************************

    Nicholas Sandmann – the Covington Catholic High School student vilified by leftist media last year in what became known as the Lincoln Memorial confrontation – is not just smiling; he is laughing all the way to the bank. Last month the Washington Post agreed to settle his $250m defamation lawsuit. This was on top of CNN’S settlement of Sandmann’s $275m lawsuit in January.

    He and his classmates were falsely accused of surrounding and taunting Nathan Phillips, a Native American man and purported Vietnam veteran, in Washington DC. In selectively edited video excerpts, Sandmann, then 16, was portrayed as a menacing bully who confronted Phillips while the latter was peacefully playing a tribal instrument.

    The truth was that just prior to the incident the group of students had been racially abused and taunted by a group of protesters known as the Black Hebrew Israelites. In response the students cheered and chanted to drown out these insults. Phillips, having decided to get involved, walked to the students, and stood directly in front of Sandmann.

    “They (the students) were in the process of attacking these four black individuals,” Phillips later told Detroit Free Press. “The looks in these young men’s face … if you go back and look at the lynchings that was done (in America) … and you’d see the faces on the people … The glee and the hatred in their faces, that’s what these faces looked like.”

    But the video showed the students were doing no such thing. Nor was there any evidence to corroborate Phillip’s claim he heard the students chant “build the wall”. What of the claim that Phillips is a Vietnam veteran? He later “clarified” for a forgiving media he was actually a “Vietnam-era” or “Vietnam-times” veteran, having served in the Marine Corps Reserve from 1972 to 1976 and never having deployed overseas.

    This was put down to a transcription error. Had journalists done their job properly, they would have quickly ascertained Phillips was an inveterate liar and a perpetrator of what is known as “stolen valour”. In 2008, while officiating at Arlington National Cemetery, he referred to when he came “back” from Vietnam, saying “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me”. There is undated footage of him on YouTube (9.45-10.30) saying “I’m a Vietnam vet” who served “in theatre”. In 2018, Phillips told Vogue Magazine “I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger.” In fact, Phillips’s military service consisted mostly of carrying out reconnaissance on refrigerators as a technician.

    The media’s motive was simple: by portraying the students as MAGA racists and bullies they could by extension attribute their actions to US President Donald Trump. In their eagerness to do so they came close to destroying an innocent adolescent. Celebrities and commentators alike joined in the throng. Sandmann and his family received death threats. Why? Because he had worn a MAGA cap and smiled.

    But all that was drowned out in progressive outrage. The ABC’s then Washington correspondent Zoe Daniel tweeted “This is truly awful” in response to the false reports that the students harassed Phillips. The Sydney Morning Herald reported that Sandmann’s face bore “a relentless smirk”. Peter FitzSimons, a columnist of that newspaper angrily tweeted this was a case of “Sneering punks disgracing themselves, their school and their country”.

    Only days after the incident, Michael Rowland of ABC TV News Breakfast described the expression on Sandmann’s face as “pure hate”. His co-host Lisa Millar said of Sandmann “It’s this shot here that bothers me the most I think – he’s sort of standing in his [Phillips’s] face – trying to – it would appear he’s trying to intimidate”.

    “All of this on the backdrop of two years since President Trump was inaugurated,” said Millar. “You know where I’d build that wall,” asked Rowland. “Right around that [Covington] college.” There is a wall all right, but it surrounds the ABC mindset. As columnist Gerard Henderson observed in this newspaper last week, the ABC has for nearly two years refused to correct this report.

    The final word on this affair goes to Guardian columnist Jason Wilson. When doubts about the authenticity of initial media reports emerged, his reaction, in what is perhaps described as an act of Orwellian comedy, was to write that “liberal media has almost completely backed away from their initial, justified take on the story”.

    THE MOCKER
    The Mocker amuses himself by calling out poseurs, sneering social commentators, and po-faced officials.

    Oz link

  122. incoherent rambler

    thing -> think

  123. Leigh Lowe

    Helen

    #3537725, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    I was sweeping a floor in the room that the linen was housed in when Buddy Holly died. I was driving cross country with a load of hessian and a foal on the back

    Hmmmm.
    Both times there were no corroborating witnesses.
    Shaky alibis Helen.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    notafan

    #3537699, posted on August 6, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    The meat thing is also ideological.

    Yeah, I have no doubt that Mzzzz van Diemen would be leading that push.

  125. Leigh Lowe

    incoherent rambler

    #3537746, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    thing -> think

    That’s OK.
    You self identify as incoherent so the odd Bidenism typo is expected.

  126. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Hmmmm.
    Both times there were no corroborating witnesses.
    Shaky alibis Helen.

    This may change should the written statement made by the foal turn up in a box of old papers.

  127. feelthebern

    Fun fact.
    The owners of Westfield wrote down their value by 10% as at June 30th.
    Industry super for the most part, maintained their retail asset valuations & in some cases increased the valuations citing lower interest rates.
    Hmmm…something not quick right there.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    rickw

    #3537716, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:01 pm

    Sorry, that is not correct, Qatar, the airline I always fly with has flights available in Aug if you have a permit to leave and the destination country accepts you.

    Correct, I work at the airport, there are international flights still leaving, with pax.

    No, no, stop it.
    Don’t be giving jsan practical advice.
    Just make a grandstanding promise that you can’t deliver on.
    That’s our core business here.

  129. Infidel Tiger King

    Fun fact.
    The owners of Westfield wrote down their value by 10% as at June 30th.

    How’s Frank Lowy’s timing?

    Smart guy.

  130. Leigh Lowe

    This may change should the written statement made by the foal turn up in a box of old papers.

    The neigh-sayers won’t take the word of a pony.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    Industry super for the most part, maintained their retail asset valuations & in some cases increased the valuations citing lower interest rates.

    What the fuckety fuck?
    My back of envelope says interest rates would have to have dropped 5-10% minimum to take up the slack we are seeing.
    Have the climate modelers and the pandemic predictors all gone to work at Big Super?

  132. max

    Getting John Lennon makes up for them, Helen.

  133. Leigh Lowe

    max

    #3537763, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    Getting John Lennon makes up for them, Helen.

    Bullshit.
    That was me.
    I’d heard he was working on a follow up to “Imagine”.
    .
    You’re welcome.

  134. feelthebern

    Have the climate modelers and the pandemic predictors all gone to work at Big Super?

    Tim Wilson badgered APRA about unlisted valuations at committee.
    APRA took it on notice & will be responding.
    Effectively telling APRA to look into industry super’s unlisted asset valuations.

  135. old bloke

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3537732, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:11 pm

    Just like Eisenhower, Monty, Patton, et al did as soon as they learned of the German push in the Ardennes – went on several days leave, coz “all plumb tuckered out” from having missed a couple of RDOs.

    Similar story with Rommel, he was back in Germany receiving his promotion to Field Marshall when Montgomery broke through at Alamein, and he was on holidays in Germany when the Allies hit the beaches in Normandy.

  136. Top Ender

    The Mocker in the Oz gets into Bandana Man for fulminating on Folau.

    The filter doesn’t like something not on the list of naughty words, but here is a sample and a link:

    You now want to list all of Folau’s faults in your column, but by the time you have plugged your books, dropped the names of who you and the wife hobnobbed it with on the weekend, reminded readers you were the only Australian rugby player sent off for “violence” against the New Zealand All Blacks, casually mentioned you are a pro chancellor at the University of Sydney, alerted us to your being a friend and acquaintance of prime ministers and premiers, let us know that you were approached to run for the seat of Warringah, told us yet again that membership numbers are “surging” at the Australian Republic Movement (of which you are Chair of course) – truth is, there is not enough room to do your outrage justice.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/before-fulminating-about-israel-folau-peter-fitzsimons-should-review-his-past-comments/news-story/9d6decbd4b2a8f02a35a5a566630f5f6

  137. notafan

    Heading out again.

    Wish me luck.

  138. thefrollickingmole

    Some flog at my local coffee shop this morning loudly proclaiming the dropping the A-Bomb on Hiroshima was a war crime.

    Ask them if they think it was because of racism they didnt drop it on Germany first.
    If they say yes then point out it wasnt developed till after Germany surrendered and invite them to not be such a mong.

  139. rickw

    “Mong” is such a great word, and so useful at the moment!

  140. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    LOL – there’s a shortage of blood pressure medication in Disasterstan.

    Another entirely “unintended” consequence, I’m sure.

  141. thefrollickingmole

    Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Weve had a couple of people who have had to change BP scripts due to shortages of their usual stuff.

  142. Similar story with Rommel, he was back in Germany receiving his promotion to Field Marshall when Montgomery broke through at Alamein, and he was on holidays in Germany when the Allies hit the beaches in Normandy.

    This may explain the allied victory in both those battles.

  143. rickw

    Sorry, that is not correct, Qatar, the airline I always fly with has flights available in Aug if you have a permit to leave and the destination country accepts you.

    Really the key issue. A permit to leave this shithole?! What is this country, some sort of open air prison?!!

  144. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Romney is now the left’s darling yet in 2012 they loathed him…and they accused him of all manner of unspeakable crimes…

    The revelation that he once strapped the family dog to his car roof on a vacation lost him the election.

  145. Morsie

    Read the Mocker in the Oz today.Takes Fitzsimons to the cleaners.

  146. stackja

    old bloke – I am skeptical about your General stories.

  147. rickw

    This may explain the allied victory in both those battles.

    Rommel had been known to jump on an MG 34 at times and get it done himself.

    (From memory French armoured counter attack, gave the such a hosing they decided to cease and desist.)

  148. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Top Ender at 12:32 pm:

    “Talking Point: We don’t need another Sheean review, we need another hero

    … we already know what the answer should be, writes Shayne Neumann, Mercury

    Better yet, the Prime Minister could save himself the time and simply move to recommend that Teddy Sheean be granted¹ the VC immediately. After all, in these challenging and uncertain times, we don’t need another review, but we do need another hero.

    Shayne Neumann … Labor spokesman for Veterans’ Affairs … member for Blair, Queensland.”

    Gees they are good reasons to make the highest award for valour. The 2020 preciouses need a cuddle.

    “challenging times” … adults whingeing for months on end that life is ever so difficult, gasp, gasp, cannot visit Madge in Bunbury – I always travel there every five years, as you know; my children are exhausted after being home all the time caring for their children – they need a holiday at Versace in Hobart; I cannot be there for my grandchild’s first day at school, in Boston – no, it wasn’t planned but it is the principle of the thing!; we always visit the Gold Coast in August before the rush of welfare tenants from Rooty Hill, and to review our Queensland portfolio (a 2 bed Meriton time share at Merrimac) and these silly flying rules are just appalling; I’m bored, isn’t that enough reason, surely? My flea-d cat doesn’t kill lizards or birds, how dare you!

    I now know how those poor young illegals families struggled to cope locked up on Christmas Island at Club Med – three meals a day prepared by coolies, clean linen each week, air conditioning, Coca Cola and lolly machines at every entrance, a gymnasium, lower castes just down the way I can look down my nose at …

    “uncertain times” … what will happen next week, next month, in ten years? Eh? The government should imprint a definite expiry date on this disease and be prepared to face me in court if they get it wrong. Just look at how little that Morrison dope did to put out the bush fires, and to prevent the homes falling into the sea at Wamberal.

    My hero? Prime Ministerial material? Well, yes, I did write something like that here when he was Minister for Immigration – look, I’m busy now, I don’t have time. Which ministers have I written to with letters of complaint? Don’t be so impudent, I have already told you I am busy!

    ¹ “granted”? Ignorant fool.

  149. rugbyskier

    Read the Mocker in the Oz today.Takes Fitzsimons to the cleaners.

    With added bonus of the YouTube clip of Pirate Pete getting snotted by the French in a rugby test match. The most laughs I’ve had for a while.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender at 1:39.
    I don’t know but maybe the spaminator has a problem with lifts of entire paywalled articles?
    And Morsie at 1:51. Agreed. Mocker totally takes Fitzsimian to the cleaners.
    Does.
    Not.
    Miss.
    Worth a read for those with a sub.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    With added bonus of the YouTube clip of Pirate Pete getting snotted by the French in a rugby test match. The most laughs I’ve had for a while.

    What is so funny is that, at the start of that incident, a high ball comes in and Fitzsimian comes steaming through trying to take the ball and maim a Frog.
    Misses ball.
    Misses Frog.
    Throws a punch.
    Misses.
    Grabs Frog jersey with one hand, head down and starts blindly flailing about with the other fist.
    Misses.
    Another Frog arrives from behind just as Fitzsimian comes up for air.
    Frog numero deux … he does not miss.
    .
    Meanwhile, as Fitzsimian is gasping on the ground, various Wallabies in the vicinity are tying bootlaces, checking their watches or enquiring of their French counterparts where one can buy a decent croissant.

  152. Makka

    I like this new Trump ad….

  153. johanna

    The BoM’s alarmism struck again this week.

    We around here were warned of howling winds, sleet, snow, and rain for most of the week.

    Well, it’s Thursday afternoon and it has been sunny every day so far. Not a drop of rain has fallen. The highest wind gust was about 45kph a couple of days ago, and at present is is almost calm. True, it’s been cold, but that’s normal for the time of year.

    I am beginning to think that the health ‘authorities’ learned their moves from the BoM playbook. Predict doom, and hope that everyone forgets when it turns out to be utterly wrong.

  154. Herodotus

    and he was on holidays in Germany when the Allies hit the beaches in Normandy.
    And taken in a car ride, offered suicide and an honorable funeral, or ignominy and execution.
    For being sceptical – of the wisdom of Hitler.

  155. Maj

    Oi Bill Gates! The people have wised up to you!

    Nolte: Only 42% Say They Will Get the Coronavirus Vaccine

    Only 42 percent of American adults say they will get the coronavirus vaccine, according to a Yahoo News/YouGov poll.

    This is a tracking poll of 1,506 American adults taken between July 28 – 30.

    Back in early May when the poll first started asking this question, 55 percent said they would agree to get vaccinated. Slippage has occurred every month since. In late May the number dropped to 50 percent. In early July it was just 46 percent. Now we’re down to 42 percent.

    It should be noted that there is no vaccine as of yet. But there has been much talk of a miracle vaccine right around the corner — you know, just like the findings of the Durham investigation.

    Regardless, the question is what is driving this lack of trust? Why would only 42 percent agree to a vaccine?

    Well, to begin with, no one likes to hear the words “rushing” and “vaccine” in the same sentence.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    Seriously, how much space does Easy Flowers occupy rent-free in Fitzsimians head?
    Remember he confidently predicted that RA’s case was watertight. RA paid up. Lots.
    He told us that Raelene was an oil-tanker not for turning, because principle. The Vicar of Rugby turned on her own polar axis.
    He opined that Easy Flowers would never play rugger again. Anywhere in the world. Easy now has a lucrative club contract in France whilst other Wallabies are being paid peanuts because the Vicar has sent the code broke, aided and abetted by her media urgers like Fitzsimian.
    It has got to hurt.

  157. calli

    Isaiah 54:17. The KJV says it best:

    No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

    Onya Izzy.

  158. JC

    Hydro is now on the list of medications protocol by the Swiss medical system to use against the China bug. This means it works. CNN and the rest of the leftwing ratpack who were advising against because it was considered a Trump drug are now responsible for literally thousands of deaths. Once the Swiss started, you know it works well. The science is settled and the debate is over.

  159. Dr Faustus

    Meanwhile, as Fitzsimian is gasping on the ground, various Wallabies in the vicinity are tying bootlaces, checking their watches or enquiring of their French counterparts where one can buy a decent croissant.

    And this after Fitzsimons had just been dropped by a filthy coward punch.
    By a back.
    At a time when the pack would normally go the stink without worrying about repercussions.

    But a penalty and a red card for Sella seemed enough.

  160. Makka

    Hydro is now on the list of medications protocol by the Swiss medical system to use against the China bug.

    Link?

  161. cohenite

    JC
    #3537822, posted on August 6, 2020 at 2:48 pm
    Hydro is now on the list of medications protocol by the Swiss medical system to use against the China bug. This means it works. CNN and the rest of the leftwing ratpack who were advising against because it was considered a Trump drug are now responsible for literally thousands of deaths. Once the Swiss started, you know it works well. The science is settled and the debate is over.

    Head prefect, the hydroxy kid, has his Road to Damascus event about hydroxychloroquine. Did you check with dr dwarf head prefect, you shiny arsed babalino.

  162. Fisky

    Somaliland tells PRC to take a hike.

    Chris Horton 何貴森
    @heguisen
    · 24m
    “Sources add that President Bihi has rejected the delegation’s conditional offer and informed them that contrary to their request to cut ties with Taiwan, Somaliland is in fact working to strengthen diplomatic ties with Taiwan.” https://somalilandchronicle.com/2020/08/06/president-bihi-rejected-chinese-delegations-offer-of-conditional-development-package/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

  163. jo

    notafan
    #3537635, posted on August 6, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    ‘Other states rely on Victoria’.

    Oh dear.

    M(i)nty eats the holes in donuts for the whole Eastern Seaboard.

  164. Infidel Tiger King

    Only 42 percent of American adults say they will get the coronavirus vaccine, according to a Yahoo News/YouGov poll.

    Why wouldn’t you take an untested drug rushed into production by globalist elites for a virus no more deadly than the flu?

  165. johanna

    Well, he needs cheering up:

    Oscar-winner Jennifer Lawrence has reportedly sold her Upper East Side penthouse at a $5.7 million loss, receiving $9.9 million after shelling out $15.6 million for the three-bedroom unit in 2016. Her losses are likely even steeper when factoring in closing costs and other expenses.

    New York’s Upper East Side has experienced a surge in crime in recent weeks. As Breitbart News reported, the NYPD’s 19th Precinct has reported a 286 percent increase in robberies over the course of the the last month, versus the same period in 2019.

    As of August 3, the precinct reported 14 gunpoint robberies so far this year. Last year, the neighborhood only saw four.

    Crime has soared throughout New York since Mayor Bill De Blasio (D) took a permissive approach to the Black Lives Matter protests, allowing people to riot in the streets while caving to far-left activists who demanded the defunding of the police.

    Not a good time to be in NY apartment real estate.

  166. Dr Faustus

    Especially for Victorians.

    Mabel and Olive: a UK coronavirus Youtube spoof sport report series, that shot obscure, suddenly underemployed BBC sporting commentator, Andrew Cotter, to stardom (and probably fortune).

  167. bespoke

    Leigh Lowe
    #3537756, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:22 pm
    rickw

    #3537716, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:01 pm

    Sorry, that is not correct, Qatar, the airline I always fly with has flights available in Aug if you have a permit to leave and the destination country accepts you.

    Correct, I work at the airport, there are international flights still leaving, with pax.

    No, no, stop it.
    Don’t be giving jsan practical advice.
    Just make a grandstanding promise that you can’t deliver on.
    That’s our core business here.

    Yes indeed, very nauseating but not out of the ordinary.

  168. MatrixTransform

    polis: where are you going
    me: shops
    polis: what for?
    me: food
    polis: what are you buying
    me: what do you care, you’re not coming dinner

  169. incoherent rambler

    polis: where are you going?
    me: hell
    polis: what for?
    me: Not for me to judge
    polis: huh?
    me: I think I have arrived early.

  170. JC

    Head prefect, the hydroxy kid, has his Road to Damascus event about hydroxychloroquine. Did you check with dr dwarf head prefect, you shiny arsed babalino.

    I should have checked with you, Cronkite…. one of the worlds notable virologists.

    By the way, you mental midget, they’re using it at the beginning stages of the china bug which is when the drug is most potent. Remind me, but didn’t we both agree recently this was the point in time when it worked? Rather, let me rephrase that – you agreed with me.
    Stick to rate apportionment, Sundance.

  171. gafa

    Did someone mention Orica?
    Now that would make those Birubi mortars look puny.

    Orica demonstrating the Butterfly Effect, or is it the Law of Unintended Consequences!

  172. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From feelthebern at 1:21 pm:

    “Fun fact.
    The owners of Westfield wrote down their value by 10% as at June 30th.
    Industry super for the most part, maintained their retail asset valuations & in some cases increased the valuations citing lower interest rates.
    Hmmm…something not quick right there.”

    The changes for superannuation fund thinking on holdings in big end real estate has exercised my mind for a while now. Throughout my working life the funds loaded up with regional shopping centres and CBD office towers because they were characterised by continuous growth in income and in capital value. Acquisitions soaked up huge dollops of the funds they needed to invest.

    The coincidence of emerging internet buying and commercial business liaison then the bubonic plague with its consequential contraction in interstate travel, shoppers increasingly prepared to order milk and eggs for home delivery, bureaucracies becoming familiar and comfortable with a remote workforce and so on changes that assured growth.

    These events bring fundamental change and, like the medicos facing the plague, it is unfamiliar and unpredictable territory for the property industry. Everything from battalions of commuters no longer streaming in and out of the city centre each day; mass transit infrastructure designed to fit behaviours which will not be the same when things return to normal; widespread vacancies in every property type; minimal new business formation; apartment buyers absent; entreupreneurs, real estate agents and the most senior investment managers with no data on which to base their decisions … . I was immersed in it all during my working life, at the design and development end rather than the investment / holding end, I would love to be a part of the decision making again, and I do miss it.

  173. Speedbox

    Sorry, that is not correct, Qatar, the airline I always fly with has flights available in Aug if you have a permit to leave and the destination country accepts you.

    Really the key issue. A permit to leave this shithole?! What is this country, some sort of open air prison?!!

    As I understand it, you must have permission ( a permit) issued by the Feds to leave Australia if you are an Australian citizen. You can’t just turn up at the airport with your passport and a flight ticket. There are a number of acceptable reasons that will see a permit granted (such as compassionate grounds, or work) but not just because you ‘want to get away’.

  174. DrBeauGan

    Jsan, you’re right to be severely pissed off. See you at the barricades when we start the revolution.

  175. Mark A

    rickw
    #3537780, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    Sorry, that is not correct, Qatar, the airline I always fly with has flights available in Aug if you have a permit to leave and the destination country accepts you.

    Really the key issue. A permit to leave this shithole?! What is this country, some sort of open air prison?!!

    It was a good thing the OP’s post reminded me to look into this more deeply.

    If I say that I am not up to speed with bureaucratic rules and mambo jumbo is an understatement.
    I’m a fool, I looked at the conditions for receiving a permit to leave not the exemptions.

    If you spent more time outside Australia then here in the last 12-24 months as a resident of an other country you don’t need a permit at all to bugger off.

    I hardly spent any time at home in the last 15 years.

    Booking my flight as I type.
    What an ignorant idiot I am.
    Sheesh.

  176. Geriatric Mayfly

    Trundle, trundle, squeak, squeak, pushed the trolley into the Colesworth car park and immediately ripped off the facial impedimenta. A Karen fairy appeared within an instant. Thankfully her displeasure was delivered in signage and much pointing at me and to her own shield of virtue. Pity, I was in fine form after some rather terse intercourse with reception at the Clinic, all four of them wound up to eleventy.

  177. bespoke

    See you at the barricades when we start the revolution.

    I can see DrBeauGan in the middle of a bunch of zombie’s proclaiming how puny they are while they eat his ginormous brain.

  178. Speedbox

    Mark A
    #3537852, posted on August 6, 2020 at 3:20 pm

    Correct. Good pickup.

  179. JC

    The U.S. economy deteriorated in the second quarter at the highest annualized rate in history, almost 33%, and it’s certainly not going to come back at the same rate (leaving aside the fact that it takes a 49% gain to offset a 33% decline).

    100 – 33 = 67 . 33/100 = 33%

    33/67 = 49%

    Depressing to even look at.

  180. cohenite

    By the way, you mental midget, they’re using it at the beginning stages of the china bug which is when the drug is most potent. Remind me, but didn’t we both agree recently this was the point in time when it worked? Rather, let me rephrase that – you agreed with me.

    By definition, every drug is more efficacious at the beginning of a disease before it’s symptoms intensify. Hydroxy is still worth taking after the beginning of the chunk virus because while it’s efficacy decreases after the bug gets into the lungs, after which the antibiotic steps up, it is still useful in containing viral dose load in other parts of the body.

    I thought you said, quoting dr dwarf, that hydroxy had no use at any stage of the chunk virus. But I could be mistaken, blinded as I am by your shiny arse.

  181. William the Conjuror

    Assessment is an essay in which you have to use the terms ‘epistemology’, ‘ontology’ and ‘never quote Wikipedia’ in a correct context.

    There are many meetings along the way with the mentor to ensure that the candidate’s research is original and remains cogent to the agreed topic.

  182. JC

    By definition, every drug is more efficacious at the beginning of a disease before it’s symptoms intensify.

    And? And how does that nullify the point that it only shows evidence of working at the beginning stages? This doesn’t apply so much with the use of steroids and anti-viral combo.

    Hydroxy is still worth taking after the beginning of the chunk virus because while it’s efficacy decreases after the bug gets into the lungs, after which the antibiotic steps up, it is still useful in containing viral dose load in other parts of the body.

    Maybe.

    I thought you said, quoting dr dwarf, that hydroxy had no use at any stage of the chunk virus. But I could be mistaken

    I never said that. STFU and go do the rates.

  183. H B Bear

    … original and remains cogent to the agreed topic.

    Unlike anything you have written Gargooglery.

  184. Old School Conservative

    Two Unis were prepared, subject to finding a supervisor, to allow me to go straight into my Ph D on the strength of past publications and RPL.

    TAFE course confirmed.

  185. TFM:

    Today, libertarians actively side with our enemies: they promote open borders and empty prisons, and strengthen China’s hand through their consumer-focused economic policies. Ours is primarily a conservatism of countries and borders, citizens and families, none of which can take root in the barren libertarian soil of atomized individuals and global markets.

    Well done Mole.
    But a minor correction – Libertarianism was marched through twenty years ago and became just another lightweight political fashion statement.
    It now remains as the hollow shell that hides the Marxists who refuse to come out of the ideological cupboard and be honest with itself.

  186. JMH

    No, no, stop it.
    Don’t be giving jsan practical advice.
    Just make a grandstanding promise that you can’t deliver on.
    That’s our core business here.

    Yes indeed, very nauseating but not out of the ordinary.

    Indeed.

    Thinking of you at this horrible time, Jsan.

  187. DrBeauGan

    I can see DrBeauGan in the middle of a bunch of zombie’s proclaiming how puny they are while they eat his ginormous brain.

    Nah. I’ll be directing the zombies from my underground bunker in an extinct volcano. Up until they’ve eaten the brains of every leftie in Oz. After which the zombies will all collapse with food poisoning.

  188. calli

    She’s just beautiful.

    Sure, they’ve woven climate change into the story, but then it’s a day ending in Y.

  189. TFM:

    Today, libertarians actively side with our enemies: they promote open borders and empty prisons, and strengthen China’s hand through their consumer-focused economic policies. Ours is primarily a conservatism of countries and borders, citizens and families, none of which can take root in the barren libertarian soil of atomized individuals and global markets.

    Well done Mole.
    But a minor correction – Libertarianism was marched through twenty years ago and became just another lightweight political fashion statement.
    It now remains as the hollow shell that hides the Marxists who refuse to come out of the ideological cupboard and be honest with itself.

    Put the gin bottles down ladies, you’re cooked.

    I’ve never read so much bullshit in my life ( and I have read Tim Winton).

  190. Constantin was snatched up by MLA’s Special Forces early.
    I’m certain of it.
    He’d be in here with at least one “told yiz!!”
    See in Lubyanka soon, comrade!

  191. Dot, I’ve left a glowing [email protected] Facebook page.
    👍👍😎😎

  192. Thanks, calli, she’s a beaut.
    I want to make some ugg boots out of the chicks.
    Mmm….toasty!
    🤣

  193. So all the resource skekel seeking conservative Cats, wishing to prodigiously promote parental purviews, where does the resource demand come from?

    You’re not consumers either, looking for the best deal for your family budgets?

    Get the fuck outta here. A lunatic like Tails is mch more polite. He’s also got no cataracts, so he doesn’t drive into young people shopping, nor does he call people who want free markets and civil rights…commies. No symptoms of Bidenisis for young Tails.

  194. JC, just go get a month’s worth of HCQ and chill please.
    It’s the silver bullet.
    Trump is god

  195. Hey Will – is that you in the beat up Honda Jazz down on the street?
    Fkn hell, come in for a beer, dude.
    I’ll show you the tapestries and the bondage cellar.

  196. Gunner I am looking at MSB.

    Possible stage III koof trial. Whew lads! Never thought we’d get this far.

    It’s down over the last two days, maybe BTFD?

    I will wait until next week. I need a little more unrest and want a lower entry price.

    Chaos is a ladder!

  197. Struth.

    Glad to live in your head Mick.
    I usually work in intense shifts rather than sit on here all day like others.
    Frank is a classic example.
    I’ll make sure I get on here as much as I can now.

    Was notafan quoting how the free market/ private enterprise, fixes supply issues so we have nothing to be concerned about?

    Really?
    You couldn’t be that stupid, could you?
    And “It won’t be a problem because they’ll ration things”.

    Sort of like saying I can’t buy shoes but that’s ok, the government have banned us from leaving the house.
    Everything is tickety boo.
    It really is quite sad to see the level of denialism and self delusion .

  198. Makka

    Hydro is now on the list of medications protocol by the Swiss medical system to use against the China bug.

    Where’s the link for this?

  199. Pete of Perth

    For our Victorian cousins behind the iron curtain
    https://youtu.be/rA56B4JyTgI

  200. gafa

    You’re a spiteful word twisting moron, who hysterically supported the introduction of tyranny into this country.

    Yet those who saw the light and didn’t support the introduction of tyranny were still, as is nearly always the case, unable to stop it!
    Why history, why do you do this to us?
    Most innocents just want to quietly raise a family and not get fire bombed.

  201. thefrollickingmole

    Lets break it down.

    Legalise Sedition
    #3537884, posted on August 6, 2020 at 3:49 pm
    TFM:

    Today, libertarians actively side with our enemies:
    they promote open borders True or false?
    and empty prisons True or false?
    and strengthen China’s hand through their consumer-focused economic policies True or false?

    You can nuance all you like but open borders is undoubtedly true.
    Prison emptying, I think is over egging it, and id prefer to see less “law” used on people anyway.
    And completely free trade has been great for those free to shift production offshore, also I believe a true.

  202. 1735099

    TAFE course confirmed.

    On this site, where the “elites” are given a hard time, we see lots of toxic snobbery. What’s wrong with TAFE? Isn’t that where tradies get started?

  203. Struth of the Overflow.

    Shit yes.
    He can play guitar&sing a bit.
    The revolution needs a bard.
    Songs of Resistance

  204. I am looking at MSB.
    👍
    #homework

  205. JC

    Makka
    #3537899, posted on August 6, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    Hydro is now on the list of medications protocol by the Swiss medical system to use against the China bug.

    Where’s the link for this?

    Dude, shouldn’t asking for a link be the last thing on your mind after the history of your link performances? Ummm.

    I read it this morning. If I find it, I’ll post it here later.

  206. Gab

    Thanks heaps, Pete of Perth.
    Yeah, thanks a lot. 🙁

  207. woolfe

    Swiss Hydro.

    Sink can you ban Karendigans that cannot use google.

  208. No. It’s not undoubtedly true. Welfare => keep the borders “closed”. Ad nauseum.

    If you want law and order you are getting it good and hard right now. Who wants more law and order? You really want less of it and an end to politicised police. Is anyone here campaigning for MORE “justice” for Cdl. Pell? No way!

    Australia has had low trade barriers since the 1980s. Until Gillard we had growing employment and productivity. No why did Fisher and Paykel for example move to NZ? Because our labour on-costs are so high. We have a second world energy grid now too. You cannot blame consumers or less taxes (tariffs) for this – payroll tax and the ETS/MRET are both in part why this happened.

    Thank god we can export minerals.

    The last ten years would have been like a repeat of the 1970s without it.

    …and for christ’s sake, when have I ever made a pro CCP post, ever?

  209. thefrollickingmole

    Imagine your life is so eaten with self loathing for having dogged the greatest moral challenge of your life 50+ years ago you go onto a Mongolian yogurt weaving forum (and Australias leading Vietnam blog) where most of the people have seen you lie and weasel dozens of times to try and fill that empty void of self worth by posting about your “Phd”.

    Sad
    Low energy
    Moral failure.

  210. bespoke

    DrBeauGan
    #3537877, posted on August 6, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    Nah. I’ll be directing the zombies from my underground bunker in an extinct volcano.

    MV’s already got that job. 😁

  211. Makka

    Dude, shouldn’t asking for a link be the last thing on your mind after the history of your link performances? Ummm.

    Lol. So, you’re wrong again? Your arse handed to you, again? This is way too easy.

    In any case, it’s your history of bullshittery on here that’s in question. Not that the HCQ story isn’t good news, which it always was to even the dimmest of the dim.

  212. woolfe

    OK very bad taste but those detonated lebfugees should be landing in Queensland shortly.

  213. gafa

    $2 million to go to Beirut explosion assistance.
    How many Aussie businesses teetering on the edge could $2m help?

    But in fairness, I read that we do have 5000 Aussies living ( not holidaying ) in Beirut.

  214. Makka

    A link would be great.

    Google is curating my searches to boot.

  215. Makka

    woolfe
    #3537911, posted on August 6, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    Nothing new in there that states the Swiss medical system have re-instated HCQ as a treatment. All old info posted many times before. What was that about using google?

  216. Makka

    Google is curating my searches to boot.

    Same, I can’t find anything about the Swiss greenlighting it.

  217. What arts PhD had coursework?

    This is some kind of joke.

    My thoughts exactly, Sedation.

    Shut up, I’m a BA, xunts.
    #CFMEUlyfe

  218. Imma add that to my screen name.
    Respect Ma Authoritaay
    TailgunnerBA

  219. But in fairness, I read that we do have 5000 Aussies living ( not holidaying ) in Beirut.

    I’ll bet ten years salary their names are:
    Ian McDougall
    Owen Phillips
    Emily Ahearn
    Jane Anderson

  220. woolfe

    Yea nothing in there, right

    A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand.

  221. #[email protected]
    Posting new street interviews may be a bit patchy til I’m on JK.
    Then? Hehe
    I’m going out to talk to the proles.
    #journalism
    Tim Pool, I need a job, xunt!

  222. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘TailgunnerBA’

    Yes. Qualifications are a must.

    KD
    B&F Yr 11 1986
    68 goals, 10 match season

  223. thefrollickingmole

    Welfare => keep the borders “closed”.

    Except thats never what happens.

    If you want law and order you are getting it good and hard right now
    No we are not, we are getting anarcho-tyranny, where the government continually “does something” as opposed to leaving things at a modest, well run level.

    Australia has had low trade barriers since the 1980s.
    No -one is arguing for trade wars, however shifting production to China and pretending the $2 plastic dogshit we got back at the expense of Australians making $3 plastic dogshit was a great deal was at best, a little short sighted.
    You see that famed “if we trade with them they will adopt democracy” happening anytime soon?

  224. P

    OMG, it’s getting worse by the day.

    Yesterday upon the basement stair
    I saw that Joe Biden wasn’t all there
    He wasn’t all there again today
    Oh how I wish they would just take him away

  225. Makka

    On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand.

    I’ve read through several of these articles and while the Swiss reversed the initial ban (which was known), I can’t find anything where their medical system is endorsing HCQ as a covid treatment.

  226. thefrollickingmole

    JC forward this to .55 and you will see a preview of Bidens debates performance.

  227. JC

    Hey Drills

    Do you use instant coffee or an espresso machine at the truck stop?

  228. “Film the cops, bois, fucken dog xunts”
    H/t Nolezy

  229. Megan

    Especially for Victorians.

    Mabel and Olive: a UK coronavirus Youtube spoof sport report series, that shot obscure, suddenly underemployed BBC sporting commentator, Andrew Cotter, to stardom (and probably fortune).

    I love his work, been watching since the beginning. Clever and genuinely funny.

  230. Roger

    You see that famed “if we trade with them they will adopt democracy” happening anytime soon?

    That hope was liberal hubris on stilts.

  231. Leigh Lowe

    “Fun fact.
    The owners of Westfield wrote down their value by 10% as at June 30th.
    Industry super for the most part, maintained their retail asset valuations & in some cases increased the valuations citing lower interest rates.

    Things that make you go hmmmm …
    1. Work from home is the new normal. Big city office spaces are soooo 2019. Demand for office space will plummet.
    Me : OK, fair enough.
    2. The owners of a lot of those spaces (Big Industry Super) say it is all tickety-boo and the CBD towers won’t be written down in value.
    Me : “Wait. But, I thought … “
    3. One of the last bastions of ‘ssential industry is the building of CBD towers. For which there is no demand. And which often run months over schedule anyway and the world doesn’t tilt on it’s axis.
    Me : “WTF???”

  232. Knuckle Dragger

    mole,

    I dare to dream that clip will replicate itself during Hot Button Sutton’s triumphant return presser. That will, as they say, bring the crowds back.

    NADT.

  233. the building of CBD towers.
    Yep, it’s all over.
    Any Bois with kids& mortgage assets getting extremely edgy.
    Buy gold, shits about to get real, for Realz.

  234. Eyrie

    But in fairness, I read that we do have 5000 Aussies living ( not holidaying ) in Beirut.

    Old age pensioners and those on disability living it up on regular Australian welfare payments. No intention of coming back to Australia unless things turn to shit where they are. Also part of the reason you can only get a month’s prescription at a time. Relly in Aus finds friendly doctor gets him to prescribe for symptoms described on PBS and if you could get 6 months all of it mailed to Lebanon. Either used or sold on there.

  235. NYC& Yarragrad are all over.
    Stay away from RE, JC!
    Your 2-0 down.
    See you in northern NSW, mate 😃
    Imma GTFO too.

  236. stackja

    471 cases, eight deaths as Premier faces flood of questions on hotel quarantine
    Police have vowed to come down hard on “selfish” protesters who plan to join an event being billed as a “Freedom March” in Melbourne’s CBD on Sunday. Police say the protest will put Victorian lives at risk.

    Dennis Shanahan, Alex White, Alanah Frost and Shannon Deery, Herald Sun
    August 6, 2020 4:54pm

    This coronavirus article is unlocked and free to read in the interest of community health and safety.

    ‘SELFISH’ PROTESTERS ENDANGER LIVES: POLICE
    Anti-lockdown protesters are planning to defy authorities with a rally in Melbourne’s CBD on the weekend.

    More than 100 people are listed as attending the protest, billed as the “Freedom March” outside state parliament on Sunday.

  237. Leigh Lowe

    Isaiah 54:17. The KJV says it best:

    No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

    And the Lord didst further saith, “Do not be vexed as to which of thee shalt bear the brunt of heavenly wrath. ‘Tis thee, the one who swathes his head in crimson cloth, and speaketh both volubly and vacuosly on the Ninth Channel on the Holy Sabbath”

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