Victorian quarantine inquiry delayed

Not content with not answering questions in the Parliament, the Victorian government has now delayed the Hotel Quarantine Inquiry that prevents the government from answering journalists’ question on that bungle.

Victoria’s anticipated hotel quarantine inquiry has been delayed by more than a month.

Daniel Andrews has today approved an extension to the inquiry’s reporting deadline, from September 25 to November 6.

The Premier would not comment when asked about potential delays to the inquiry at a press conference today.

Won’t even answer questions as to why it was delayed. Probably a tad embarrassing to admit that November 6 is a week after the October 29 Queensland election.

To be clear this is a huge stuff up.

Genomic testing evidence is expected to reveal almost all, if not all, of Victoria’s second wave can be directly linked to the bungled quarantine scheme.

While the deed itself is bad enough, the cover up is always what kills.  Andrews can’t keep us all under house arrest until the next election, so sooner or later he is going to have to sack several of his minions and run a show-trial to punish the guilty.

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51 Responses to Victorian quarantine inquiry delayed

  1. Leo Maglen

    Is there nothing, short of waiting two years or so until the next election, that Victorians can do to censure and hold to account Andrews and his hapless administration? Where is the PM in all this? Still covering Dan’s backside?

  2. Sinclair Davidson

    Is there nothing, short of waiting two years or so until the next election, that Victorians can do to censure and hold to account Andrews and his hapless administration?

    Fixed terms in the Westminster system are an abomination.

    The upper house could refuse to pass any legislation.

  3. mem

    Perspective needed.
    There have been 247 deaths to date Australia wide from the corona virus (flu) . Last year by way of comparison we had 902 deaths Australia wide due to flu. We didn’t shut the country down!
    Other stats for some perspective:
    Last year we had 3915 (April 1-Oct 6) hospital admissions due to flu, compared to 725 admissions in 2018 and 3969 in 2017 – In 2019 6.3% admitted directly to ICU (8.1% 2018, 8.9% 2017; 7% 2015, 11% 2014) ––
    the median age for deaths relating to flu was 86 yr
    Source Influenza deaths (NNDSS) in Australia and https://www.immunisationcoalition.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/1-Barr-ASM-2020-presentation.pdf

  4. John64

    The upper house could refuse to pass any legislation.

    The Chairman has learned of the usefulness of a State of Disaster.

    He can now rule by fiat, without the pesky inconvenience of requiring Parliament to pass legislation or even showing up to answer questions.

    Expect the State of Disaster to be in place until November 2022.

  5. WolfmanOz

    The Honourable Jennifer Coate said the ongoing inquiry was not an excuse not to comment.

    No excuse then for Govt ministers and the Premier not to comment – unless there is actually a coverup.

  6. notafan

    If someone has a do not resuscitate thingy in place would that mean they would only get palliative care should they contract flu/covid 19?

  7. Lee

    Genomic testing evidence is expected to reveal almost all, if not all, of Victoria’s second wave can be directly linked to the bungled quarantine scheme.

    But … but … I thought it was all Scott Morrison and the federal government’s fault?

  8. Tezza

    After the bungled quarantine of returning travellers (say 30 May to 7 July), there was a further month of bungled ‘domestic quarantine in self-isolation’. this second phase failure has yet to receive sufficient attention. During this time over 10,00o people refused Covid tests, it took up to a week for test results to be notified, and (when defence forces finally started to check) 30% of those allegedly self-isolated at home were out and about.
    As the daily infection numbers took off, Andrew’s response was to replace each set of failed and arbitrary restrictions with the next set of more onerous but equally arbitrary restrictions, alway focussed on the 99% healthy, rather than the 1% infected and their close contacts, and always unenforceable.

    Welcome to the first pandemic to be confronted by ‘woke’ post-modern policies based on not quarantining the infected, but instead appealing to a sense of community identity that has been dissolved in a toxic soup of government-sponsored identity politics, victimhood, and appeals to ‘human rights’ to exercise while infectious (unless you live in a welfare housing tower).

    There has never been a more stupid and hysterical miscarriage of policy at a state level, abetted by a ‘Prime Minister’ who has demoted himself to being one more idiot among the State and Territory idiots, effectively carrying their water for them.

  9. The reason the VIC Health Minister has not lost her job yet is so that it can be done after the so called inquiry.

    Despite reading a few articles about the botched quarantine security I still don’t know which organisation was in charge of the shifts in those hotels. Bearing in mind one article indicated two Government Departments withdrew their people due to safety concerns.

    There were multiple early indicators the hotel quarantine was a disaster yet nothing was done. If several departments were involved and no police or ADF considered then it is clearly Andrews who is responsible.

  10. OUTRAGED

    I’m shocked, I tell ya.

  11. Dinky

    BrettW
    #3536637, posted on August 5, 2020 at 3:42 pm

    The reason the VIC Health Minister has not lost her job yet is so that it can be done after the so called inquiry.

    She’ll be the sacrificial greek lamb.

  12. John64

    Anybody hoping that the so-called inquiry will get to the bottom of what actually happened with the quarantine scandal is delusional.

    As Sir Humphrey sagely said; never call an inquiry unless you know in advance what the findings will be.

    It’s all about giving Andrews, Mikakos, Neville and Pakula what is now beautifully referred to as “plausible deniability”.

    If someone has to go under the bus, it will be Pakula – but I won’t be holding my breath.

  13. MACK

    His answers to the abattoir questions today showed he is completely confused and making decisions about things neither he nor his minions have the faintest understanding of, i.e. the real world. Let’s hope Jim’s Mowing and a few others have the guts to stand up to him in court.

  14. 2dogs

    Is there nothing, short of waiting two years or so until the next election, that Victorians can do to censure and hold to account Andrews and his hapless administration?

    I remember last year when BoJo prorogued parliament, a lot of anti-Brexiteers got upset, he was taken to court, and lost.

    Surely these are similar circumstances, no?

  15. Professor Fred Lenin

    My government assures the public that this enquity will definately be pursued ,a tentative date has been set ,the 30th of February 2065 is thepreferred date the minister of health says this date is do able .

  16. incoherent rambler

    Andrews can’t keep us all under house arrest until the next election…

    Why not?

  17. Lee

    The Honourable Jennifer Coate said the ongoing inquiry was not an excuse not to comment.

    No excuse then for Govt ministers and the Premier not to comment – unless there is actually a coverup.

    The typical Andrews gutless response is: “there is an inquiry in progress, so I am not going to comment.”

  18. Lee

    I remember last year when BoJo prorogued parliament, a lot of anti-Brexiteers got upset, he was taken to court, and lost.

    Surely these are similar circumstances, no?

    I made the exact same point to relatives a couple of weeks or so ago, the only thing I would add is the situation in Victoria is much more serious, with Andrews unfettered by the absence of parliament.

  19. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Goose Morristeen is the antithesis of a leader, as is that jug eared imbecile in Disasterstan.

  20. Chris M

    Andrews can’t keep us all under house arrest until the next election

    Yeah who says?

    Vics are very placid and accepting, most of the dominated continue to cheer him on.

  21. Terry

    @Leo Maglen
    ‘Is there nothing, short of waiting two years or so until the next election’
    Awww, c’mon.
    Four Year terms are the courtesy our wonderfully considerate politicians pay to the electorate to relieve the voters of the tedious burden of having to hold their “representatives” accountable.

    Just be patient. You will need to wait just another two years (in lockdown) before the most leftarded state in the Commonwealthpoverty overwhelmingly extends the regime of Chairman Dan and install him as ‘Leader for Life’.

    Don’t worry, “Life” is not as bad as it sounds; in the ‘new normal’ it will be much shorter than it used to be, replete with intermittent electricity, occasional healthcare, and non-existent rights. All “policed” by BLM Marxists to ensure you don’t think about any of it too much.

    An early end will seem like sweet relief and they’ve already passed the laws to “help” you out (of it all).

    Melbourne: most liveable city don’t you know.

  22. MACK

    “The first public hearings were due to start on Thursday but retired County Court judge Jennifer Coate, who is leading the inquiry, announced on Wednesday that witnesses will not give evidence until August 17 due to Melbourne’s stage four lockdown restrictions.”
    The lockdown goes into mid-September, so why the delay?

  23. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Up here the Palacechook has decided to wall-off our southern border again.
    https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/qld-border-nsw-act-banned-from-entering-from-august-8/news-story/51e7f51e9dfea109126fd9c6335183df

    Don’t like it? This is what a “Queensland first” policy looks like, as valid for a state as it is for a nation.

    But one wonders exactly “what” happened in Victoria that was so upsetting to da `Chook. Was it the outbreak of cases and accompanying hospitalisations, or was it the government response of lockdowns that she wanted to avoid. It can’t be the death rate as every man and his elderly dog knows that’s under 0.3% by now. Either way, the grey nomads will be taking the long way round if they still want to bend bananas during August.

  24. stackja

    Andrews can’t keep us all under house arrest until the next election, so sooner or later he is going to have to sack several of his minions and run a show-trial to punish the guilty.

    Red Shirts, Lawyer X, branch corruption, the Pell persecution now the virus chaos.
    First he needs to sack himself. Linda Dessau won’t

  25. caveman

    Labor doin sabotage of any truth, coming from both flanks State and Federal. They have had a sniff of the Democrats ass and believe the latest polls from the US. If Scomo was ever to shine it would be now.

  26. twostix

    The infamously CCP riddled ALP are dissolving the Australian federation before our very eyes.

    No doubt just a coincidence!

  27. H B Bear

    Fixed terms in Vic join fixed terms in NSW as a complete disaster.

    Two years of stasis before the inevitable before the Lieborals paint the Red State another shade of beige.

  28. Menai Pete

    Is it my imagination or is Andrews wearing the same checked shirt every day?

  29. min

    Is there any connection with BLM on the 6th June , spikes start approx 1 month later . There was one connection, 30 cases , from H&M as part time worker had been to march but what about the other Covid positives 5 that were at march .
    if genomic sequencing points to-the origin as hotel quarantine why wasn’t there a spike earlier ? Or was it
    that the security guards lived in the towers?
    Andrews is hiding everything workplace manslaughter laws maybe the answer.to scratch the Teflon.

  30. Geriatric Mayfly

    The reason the VIC Health Minister has not lost her job yet is so that it can be done after the so called inquiry. She’ll be the sacrificial greek lamb.

    A dangerous move sacking a vag. Once they’re in they become members of sisters for solidarity, a sort of covert cabinet.

  31. Eyrie

    Fixed terms in the Westminster system are an abomination.

    Absolutely, Sinc. The Westminster system cannot work like that. Why did anyone ever think it could?

  32. duncanm

    What – the court can’t do Zoom?

  33. Roger

    Genomic testing evidence is expected to reveal almost all, if not all, of Victoria’s second wave can be directly linked to the bungled quarantine scheme.

    It has been reported that Victorian authorities were told from day one of the quarantine regime.

    Yet no minister has accepted responsibility.

  34. Entropy

    Won’t even answer questions as to why it was delayed. Probably a tad embarrassing to admit that November 6 is a week after the October 29 Queensland election.

    Yes, at least there might be a bit of strategy about it. Meanwhile, Scotty who is apparently from marketing has the federal budget on 6 October. Imagine what releasing a bunch of nasty cost cutting policies will do for the LNP’s prospects.

    Reminds me of SloJoe Hockey publicly floating possible GST increases during the 2015 Queensland election, with the added bonus of Abbott knighting some English git.

  35. John Brumble

    Of course there is min.

    And it wasn’t 30 days. The protest in Melbourne happened on June 6th. At the time, there were single digit cases. That increased and on 23 June, there were 23 cases. By June 30, there were 69 (81 on June 29) and then it spiked to 254 on July 3.

    The timeline is as follows:
    1) June 6 (4 new cases in Aus) Ill people with little to no symptoms attend mass protest. Most attendees are young people who would not be particularly sick or show any symptoms at all.
    2) June 10 (zero new cases) Those who catch it take about 4 or 5 days to be contagious. Those who have symptoms don’t want to have BLM protests blamed so wait for a few days. Since they are young, they are over it in 10 days and never get tested. Those who caught it at BLM go visit relatives or go back home. Many return to tower blocks.
    3) June 15 (15 new cases) Those they infect take about 4 to 5 days for symptoms to show. They go and get tested and the numbers start to rise. Many are still not getting tested because it’s cold and most people get the sniffles when it’s cold.
    4) June 20 (27 new cases) Cases from June 15 and more spread from items 1 and 2 get their positive results. “Better go and get tested” think more people, who had previously not worried about it. This is 14 days from the date of the BLM protests and already cases in Aus have increased 5-fold from a long-term trend of about 5 cases per day. Frankly it’s amazing it happened so quickly, given how often people of the average age of protesters see anyone outside their own age-group.
    5) June 25 (37 new cases and first deaths in weeks). People infected by the BLM protesters at 2 who are tested at 3 start dying.

    The cases increase from there. Certainly the hotel quarantine thing didn’t help, but the idea that just because the infections in the hundreds didn’t start in 14 days from the date of the protests, that BLM wasn’t absolutely the cause of the mass outbreak is ridiculous. There is a very clear and obvious escalation from the date that is entirely consistent with the age of the attendees and their likely movements.

  36. Roger

    told of problems with the quarantine regime, that should be.

  37. egg_

    Victoria’s anticipated hotel quarantine inquiry has been delayed by more than a month.

    Flattening the Inquiry curve, Comrade!

  38. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    ” The Premier would not comment when asked about potential delays to the inquiry at a press conference today.

    Won’t even answer questions as to why it was delayed.”

    The Melbourne media loves Labor, loves Andrews, shovels money in his direction via the journalists union contributions to the Pardy, occasionally asks him if he reckons Collingwood might get up and I am to believe the Clark Kents and Jimmy Olsens are now appalled that their questions are being ignored? And that I too should be distressed?

    Comrade Andrews is Premier, the Victorian electorate made that so, and he is doing what suits him best. Did they not anticipate that?

  39. min

    Where did cedar meats cluster come from started at end of April from an unregistered worker . He had been overseas so why wasn’t he in quarantine.?

  40. Docket62

    There has never been a more stupid and hysterical miscarriage of policy at a state level, abetted by a ‘Prime Minister’ who has demoted himself to being one more idiot among the State and Territory idiots, effectively carrying their water for them.

    +++1

  41. H B Bear

    You can bet responsibly for Covid is one power the Cth won’t seize. A first since Federation.

  42. Old Lefty

    Any sign of where the Hunchback’s cross-bench bestie in the upper house, Ms Patten of the S3x – sorry, Reason – party is in all this?

  43. Leigh Lowe

    Old Lefty

    #3536954, posted on August 5, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    Any sign of where the Hunchback’s cross-bench bestie in the upper house, Ms Patten of the S3x – sorry, Reason – party is in all this?

    Interesting.
    She seems to be another one who has sniffed the wind on this one.
    Last week she was on 3AW talking up Dan Xi-Man.
    This week she seems to have gone quiet.

  44. Squirrel

    “Genomic testing evidence is expected to reveal almost all, if not all, of Victoria’s second wave can be directly linked to the bungled quarantine scheme.”

    That point needs to be made very forcefully and repeatedly to the progressive/left idiots who want to pretend that everything would have been OK if only we’d followed the shining example of Jacinda-Land.

    A combination of deep denial and the Stockholm Syndrome will probably prevent the voters from doing to the Andrews government what it has done to the state economy – if they lose in 2022, it mightn’t be by all that much. After a term, or two, of LNP government to start cleaning the Augean Stables, Labor will be back with another team of posturing hacks.

  45. Ceres

    So what if one very stupid, incompetent, out of her depth woman Jenny Mikakos eventually loses her position as Minister? She’s one person who has helped wreak havoc.
    She will remain in the Parliament with a great salary. Thousands of Victorians are ruined and she and her cronies, laugh all the way to the bank. It stinks.

  46. FFS, spaminator caught me;

    Genomic testing evidence is expected to reveal almost all, if not all, of Victoria’s second wave can be directly linked to the bungled quarantine scheme.

    The spread started at the (halal certified) Cedar Meats, then to hotel security, then – almost simultaneously – to an Izzzzlaamic College and several Aged Care facilities.

    You can fill in the MMMMMissing link yourselves.

  47. Lazlo

    Umm. Not disputing any of the comments here but, from a non-Victorian perspective, the fact remains that Victorians voted for him and his gang twice. How did that happen? You seem to like him.

  48. Lazlo

    Absolutely, Sinc. The Westminster system cannot work like that. Why did anyone ever think it could?

    The American system works like that?

  49. a reader

    Umm. Not disputing any of the comments here but, from a non-Victorian perspective, the fact remains that Victorians voted for him and his gang twice. How did that happen? You seem to like him.

    If you want to see why, just look at Dictator Dan’ facebook comments section

  50. Perfidious Albino

    Also, the quarantine inquiry will report to the Governor, so they’ve ‘cleverly’ made the only official with any constitutional power to call stumps on Andrews complicit – not that she would have done anything anyway. Mikakos and possibly Pakula will go post inquiry, but still be ‘looked after’, obviously. They won’t care much that Mikakos has a lady garden, didn’t stop them driving Jane Garrett out over their CFA takeover.

  51. John A

    WolfmanOz #3536621, posted on August 5, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    The Honourable Jennifer Coate said the ongoing inquiry was not an excuse not to comment.

    No excuse then for Govt ministers and the Premier not to comment – unless there is actually a coverup.

    Why would you ever doubt that?

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