The Melbourne Syndrome

The Covid pandemic has brought on our modern version of The Stockholm Syndrome: “feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor.” We now have the Melbourne Syndrome, which I come across versions of every day:

Feelings of trust or affection felt during a lockdown by its victims towards their most authoritarian political leaders.

Since Melbourne has now implemented the hardest lockdown at the hands of the dumbest and most incompetent political leader in the world, I believe that Melbourne should have the honour of bearing the name of this widely observed form of insanity.

And just for contrast, let me note what is simultaneously going on in Stockholm: Destroying Western Media’s “Swedish Public Health Disaster” Narrative In Two Simple Charts

In the top chart, when we compare the mortality rates of covid19 in Sweden v. the US, including all data until the end of July, the US’s mortality rate of covid 19 in the age group of less than 39 years of age was 0.58%, more than 1,230 times greater than the 0.00047% mortality rate of Sweden. Furthermore, in the age demographics of 40-59 and 59-69, the death rate in the US from covid19 versus Sweden was respectively 215 times and 211 times greater than Sweden.

In the bottom chart, I compared Sweden’s mortality rate for different age demographics compared to the US mortality rate for the common flu. For the comprehensive age group of all ages less than 60 years of age, the Swedish mortality rate of covid19 is less than 1/3rd of the American mortality rate for the common flu. Clearly, as can be easily observed in the bottom chart, the overall covid19 mortality rate forSweden’s population was greatly skewed by nearly all covid19 deaths occurring in the above 70 year old demographic, with the majority of Sweden’s covid19 deaths occurring in those older than 80 and 90 years of age!

Go to the link and have a closer look. [THE LINK HAS BEEN FIXED.]

Only when it’s all over and years from now will we reach some kind of consensus on what ought to have been the right approach. As for the worst approach, we here in Melbourne have been able to observe it for ourselves. But the thanks Daniel Andrews and the rest of them are getting for this disgusting botch needs to be memorialised even as so many amongst us bless him for his efforts.

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39 Responses to The Melbourne Syndrome

  1. Iampeter

    Since Melbourne has now implemented the hardest lockdown at the hands of the dumbest and most incompetent political leader in the world, I believe that Melbourne should have the honour of bearing the name of this widely observed form of insanity.

    Which is weird coming from someone who wanted to build a wall to keep people from being able to go about their business.

    It’s almost like all your positions are completely arbitrary and you don’t even see the contradictions from one issue to the other.

  2. Rex Anger

    It’s almost like all your positions are completely arbitrary and you don’t even see the contradictions from one issue to the other.

    What contradictions?

    Which is weird coming from someone who wanted to build a wall to keep people from being able to go about their business.

    What business?

    Please do enlighten us with your superior, objectively rational ‘right-wong’ thoights on the matter…

  3. mark

    Link takes me to gmail login page ??

  4. duncanm

    An insight into how a sensible country goes about it.

  5. Some History

    Some background on Victoria’s Chief Health Officer from a quick google search

    Sutton, the Sly Fox, has facebook groupies:

    https://www.facebook.com/brettsuttonishot/

    He’s done extensive medical work, particularly in third-world countries.
    https://humanitarianhealthethics.net/2016/06/23/infocus-brett-sutton/

    He seems to have a Buddhist leaning – 2008 article
    Dr Brett Sutton writes on compassionate medical care in his article on Emergency Buddhism: Part II published earlier on the APLI website

    http://apli.net.au/projects/emergency-buddhism-part-ii/

  6. Some History

    Sutton decided to go into politics. His moral compass is getting a major workout.

    An interesting radio interview from 1 month ago. At 38mins – 39.5mins, Sutton addresses a question regarding “herd immunity”, indicating that the idea of herd immunity had been abandoned by government/Public Health. The brief reasons he gives for this abandonment do not sound right at all.

    Victorian Chief Health Officer – Professor Brett Sutton- In Community Conversation with Clayton

    https://soundcloud.com/899lightfm/victorian-chief-health-officer-professor-brett-sutton-in-community-conversation-with-clayton

  7. Some History

    And this is not to single out Sutton. Government Public Health around the country – State & Federal – is constantly conferring; it’s one bubble. The problem is Public Health: The way it goes about things, the way it perceives circumstances, and how much power it has been allowed to exert over elected officials.

    Government should have been telling Public Health from the outset. This is a relatively free society. Complete shutdowns of society are not on… don’t even go there. These are the parameters in which you can work. Within those parameters, tell us what we can do to best address covid-19.

  8. Lee

    Which is weird coming from someone who wanted to build a wall to keep people from being able to go about their business.

    What business?

    The “business” of illegal immigrants wanting to get to live in another country without that country’s permission, get social security and a lot of other free stuff from that country.

  9. John A

    Since Melbourne has now implemented the hardest lockdown at the hands of the dumbest and most incompetent political leader in the world

    Please can we cease this apologia for the Diktator of Viktoriastan.

    He is not dumb, ignorant or incompetent. He is malevolent. He knows what he is doing, but it is plainly not in the best interests of the people of Victoria.

    It is useful for the apparatchiks of the undemocratic non-elected machinery of the PDR of Viktoriastan, though.

    Those benefiting from all this are deliberately ignoring the integrations of economic life such that they can determine somehow that there are businesses and services which are non-essential.

    As soon as one writes that sentence, one can see the patent absurdity of the idea.

  10. MACK

    South Dakota seems to have had as good management of this virus as any other jurisdiction in the world – not too many cases, very few deaths, minimal compulsory restrictions, good care of the aged, giving people lots of information and treating everyone like responsible adults.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/south-dakota/

  11. Some History

    From today’s presser

    Hunchback: The Public Health, medical, advice is what we go by… the “experts”. It’s in their judgement that Stage 4 lockdown is the ONLY option. My job is to implement it.

  12. sfw

    John A is correct, the hunchback is evil, funny it seems most CFMEU projects are able to continue.

    The Great Diktator is power tripping and rebuilding society as he would like it, no matter the cost. His media groupies are all on board.

  13. notafan

    Dan able to gloatspeak a death of an under seventy today?

  14. shady

    Funny how Sutton and Public Health experts had nothing to do with and say about hotel quarantine but are making policy about everything else.

  15. cuckoo

    The Age keeps publishing photos of a solitary Andrews, in darkness, looking toward a distant horizon with grim determination, like Churchill looking out from the cliffs of Dover. Eugh.

  16. Genghis

    Maybe the difference is Hyrdroxychloroquin use in early stages. If they had a brain they could be dangerous!

  17. mundi

    USA numbers are all fake.

    They don’t have the highest mortality rates…

    They have a system where for some absurd reason, states get money for each covid death…. so every state is doing its darnest effort to kill as many people as possible, or at least claim as many deaths as possible as being covid caused.

    Florida recently revised death counts down by 90% (!!!) which shows just how absurd it was getting.

  18. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    how much power it has been allowed to exert over elected officials

    It’s a perfect (and very convenient, except for everyone who ends being screwed) example of a mutual symbiotic relationship.

    Populace: “Why have you implemented these staggeringly stupid and destructive policies?”
    Corrupt braindead politician (BIRM): “We were advised to do so by expert unelected unaccountable bureaucratic idiots.”
    Populace: “How do you explain and justify being wrong about everything every time?”
    Unelected unaccountable bureaucratic idiot: “The corrupt braindead politicians weren’t obligated to implement our expert recommendations.”

    Rinse and repeat.

  19. Another Ian

    Brainpower helping in USA (/s)

    “Related: DC health officials, surrounded by 150,000 active COVID cases in Maryland and Virginia list NORTH DAKOTA among high-risk states.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/08/05/the-calls-are-coming-from-inside-the-house-3/

  20. Catcalling Inebriate

    Ladies and Gents, we have declared open the Olympics of rhetorical flourish, first event being “the dumbest and most incompetent political leader in the world”! Contenders:
    1. Daniel Andrews: can’t organise to keep people inside four star hotels for free
    2. Jair Bolsonaro: makes no attempt to keep people indoors + eight Ministers now infected
    3. Recep Erdogan: attempts to restore the Ottoman Empire, ends up relying on Qatar’s cash to stay afloat
    And the winner?
    By a mile: Donal J Trump, who may yet rack up a $3trillion US deficit on top of unprecedented US public debt, fail to build a wall with Mexico, crash the US economy while attempting to undermine China (which is rebounding fast) and preside over the most damaging mismanagement of public health in US history.

  21. Some History

    how much power it has been allowed to exert over elected officials

    It’s a perfect (and very convenient, except for everyone who ends being screwed) example of a mutual symbiotic relationship.

    Populace: “Why have you implemented these staggeringly stupid and destructive policies?”
    Corrupt braindead politician (BIRM): “We were advised to do so by expert unelected unaccountable bureaucratic idiots.”
    Populace: “How do you explain and justify being wrong about everything every time?”
    Unelected unaccountable bureaucratic idiot: “The corrupt braindead politicians weren’t obligated to implement our expert recommendations.”

    Rinse and repeat.

    That’s about it. If the covid numbers were like Victoria in other States, those Premiers would be advised by the same “expertise” and would do exactly what the Hunchback is doing.

  22. The issue once again is that the media fully support Chairman Dan no matter what he does, or doesn’t, do. Anyone who does offer resistance is shamed and Karened in the one hit.

  23. Cynic of Ayr

    Re Sweden and the U.S.
    The U.S was coming into summer, and is now in summer.
    According to some site or other, Sweden’s average temperatures over the year are ten degrees C below the U.S.’s average temperatures over the year.
    Bugs don’t like low temperatures. Hospitals here in the North, run Air Conditioners cold, and in Surgery Departments, quite cold. 10 degrees colder than outside? I dunno, but possibly.
    Winter is the season of the Coronal Bugs, but I’ve sorta read somewhere that that may be more due to our bodies trying to keep warm and forgetting about battling bugs. (I know my body is getting forgetful lately!)
    It’s said that the Chinese virus can live for quite a few hours on the kitchen table, but I doubt it if the table has ice on it.
    Anyway, has the temperature of the climate got anything to do with it? It ain’t never mentioned much.
    One thing I do know is that there are way too many “experts” out there, hell bent on proving themselves correct, and therefore heroic, rather than merely correct or incorrect.

  24. theleftfootkick

    An example of some of the simple things that have been affected by the lock down. I suppose luckily for me I am actively employed in an essential service industry and involves very frequent travelling. I went to Brisbane and had a Melbourne return flight, arrived very late, plane ups re what evers and all the stuff going on etc. Motel staff very obligingly come and collect me and go to the motel it is now after 11pm and they are not allowed to checkin after 11pm. but they did being prenotified of the situation. Next morning expecting to be able to get some breakfast find out that they are banned from doing so. I then walk quite a distance to some local shops and find a bakery cafe retail shop. I buy some food for breakfast only to find out that I am not allowed to consume my meagre food purchase in the shop so I have to go outside in the very cold morning air and eat my meal, and while I am doing this all I am thinking is, fuck you Andrews!!!

  25. theleftfootkick

    Try the cliffs of Covid, over the edge down crashing on to rough jagged rocks of a political abyss.

  26. Tim Neilson

    Iampeter
    #3537589, posted on August 6, 2020 at 11:53 am

    Poor old conceited stupid ignorant Iamashiteater, totally unable to think except in cartoon-like binary dogmatic absolutist generalised labels.

    No matter how often it’s pointed out to him, he’s too sub-cretinous to be able to understand that being in favour of some border restrictions doesn’t logically require being in favour of any and every restriction that a government may seek to impose internally.

  27. Iampeter

    totally unable to think except in cartoon-like binary dogmatic absolutist generalised labels.

    Yea it’s called being right as opposed to being wrong.
    Nothing “cartoon like” about it.

    border restrictions doesn’t logically require being in favour of any and every restriction that a government may seek to impose internally.

    Of course supporting arbitrary violation of people going about their business doesn’t mean you would support arbitrary violation of people going about their business. Oh, wait…

  28. Eyrie

    I rather suspect that Swedes in general are rather fitter and healthier than Americans who seem largely to be obese to gross with pre-diabetes or diabetes and other co-morbidities. I wonder also if the recently arrived African/Middle easterners in Sweden have suffered disproportionately higher sickness and death rates.

  29. Tim Neilson

    Yea it’s called being right as opposed to being wrong.

    Poor old intellectual failure. No facts, no logic, just mere assertion.

    Then when we get to his attempted response to the next part…

    Of course supporting arbitrary violation of people going about their business doesn’t mean you would support arbitrary violation of people going about their business. Oh, wait…

    Poor old intellectual failure.

    He’s totally incapable of understanding that “going about their business” is just one of his cartoon-like binary dogmatic absolutist generalised labels – criminals and terrorists “go about their business”, so his label tells us nothing about the application of any specific border restriction in specific circumstances, and therefore tells us nothing about whether any specific border restriction is “arbitrary” or not.

    Likewise he gives no analysis of whether any specific internal restriction that’s subject to discussion is or is not actually “arbitrary”. He’s totally incapable of understanding that “some restrictions may be arbitrary” doesn’t equal “all restrictions must be arbitrary”.

    So his generalisation is revealed to be meaningless.

    Incidentally, in relation to border restrictions, he’s never been able to explain why individuals aren’t justified in enforcing exclusive possession of land jointly through a body politic with radical title when he’s so keen on individuals enforcing ownership rights jointly through a body corporate (cf his erroneous views on defamation law).

  30. stackja

    471 cases, eight deaths as Premier faces flood of questions on hotel quarantine
    Police have vowed to come down hard on “selfish” protesters who plan to join an event being billed as a “Freedom March” in Melbourne’s CBD on Sunday. Police say the protest will put Victorian lives at risk.

    Dennis Shanahan, Alex White, Alanah Frost and Shannon Deery, Herald Sun
    August 6, 2020 4:54pm

    This coronavirus article is unlocked and free to read in the interest of community health and safety.

    ‘SELFISH’ PROTESTERS ENDANGER LIVES: POLICE
    Anti-lockdown protesters are planning to defy authorities with a rally in Melbourne’s CBD on the weekend.

    More than 100 people are listed as attending the protest, billed as the “Freedom March” outside state parliament on Sunday.

  31. Rex Anger

    Of course supporting arbitrary violation of people going about their business doesn’t mean you would support arbitrary violation of people going about their business. Oh, wait…

    Lolwut, IamCognitiveDissonance?

    Trying so hard to snark back instead of conceding the point like a clever person might, you somehow managed to run facefirst into your own cream pie…

    Yea it’s called being right as opposed to being wrong.
    Nothing “cartoon like” about that.

    Right or wrong about what? Relative terms, Petey…

  32. Ozman

    Catcalling Inebriate
    #3537774, posted on August 6, 2020 at 1:41 pm

    By a mile: Donal J Trump, who may yet rack up a $3 trillion US deficit on top of unprecedented US public debt, fail to build a wall with Mexico, crash the US economy while attempting to undermine China (which is rebounding fast) and preside over the most damaging mismanagement of public health in US history.

    Wait until you see what happens when Trump is re-elected.

    Unlike yourself, a person has never had fifty million dollars of your own money to play around with, Donald Trump, who was once 10 times more than $50m in debt, actually cares about the working man.

    Go and learn about what happened to the CEO of the Tennessee Valley Authority and how Trump reinstated the jobs of those he sacked.

    Or you can go back to kissing the feet of your communist fiend dan andrews. Unlike Trump, he receives a government salary to kill an economy and murder people by not providing them with the safe prophylaxis and therapeutic HCQ.
    https://youtu.be/OkFKjaj7iNc

  33. Garry Stannus

    For me personally, this article was a disgusting piece of writing.

    Seems there’s always a dirty mindset which sees fault, evil and sin in every direction.

    Even in the midst of Victoria’s travails, you get the ‘kickers‘ and the ‘was just waiting for a good opportunity to ‘put the boot in‘.

    Well done mate.

    My name’s Garry Stannus, what’s yours?

  34. Andre

    For most government policy disasters its normal to bet on incompetence and neglect rather than evil intent. In Dictator Dan’s case its not quite so clear though.

  35. Lee

    For most government policy disasters its normal to bet on incompetence and neglect rather than evil intent. In Dictator Dan’s case its not quite so clear though.

    The security debacle alone stinks of malfeasance to the highest levels in the Victorian government, and “jobs for mates.”
    Most of the “second wave” is reportedly down to the virus escaping from supposedly “secure” hotels, according to the genome testing.

  36. Kneel

    “$3trillion US deficit on top of unprecedented US public debt, fail to build a wall with Mexico, crash the US economy while attempting to undermine China (which is rebounding fast) and preside over the most damaging mismanagement of public health in US history.”

    See what happens when you rely on fake news?

    Trump trimmed the original Democrat spending bill considerably, but eventually let it through because it was the recipients due – gov said “close”, so gov pays the costs. The president doesn’t create the spending – Dem controlled house does, president can only veto or approve or do nothing and have it go through after a wait. Dems have another $4T bill in the wings too – complete with SJW crap.

    over 400 miles of border fence added, going at several miles/day I believe – at the current rate, should be finished by end of this year.

    China was hurt by what was done – badly. Not so much directly, but indirectly as many realised how dependent they are on China, and making sure China can’t do what they did to Italy – sell back stuff they were given in humanitarian aid.
    China are hardly “bouncing back”, they are now experiencing the some of the worst flooding they’ve seen in years, their food production has fallen through the floor, and they have bans and/or taxes on imported food. The largest dam (3 Gorges) has cracks and has moved – literally millions would be at least out of a home, if not dead, should it fail. Other dams and levees being deliberately destroyed so they can control the flow to some degree. Not good – if it keeps going badly, I fear they will start a war to distract and “unify” the plebs.

    While Trump was blocking direct flights from Wuhan (now recognised by most as saving lives), the Dems were opposing it, saying he was being xenophobic and over-reacting, how safe it was in the USA and trying to impeach Trump. Then, when they saw the carnage, they said he didn’t act soon enough or do enough.

    BTW:

    Rasmussen poll the other day had Trump approval rating at 51% – at the same time in his presidency, Obama was at about 43%.

    Recent survey showed only two (2) entities had lost public trust during Covid1984 crisis – airlines and MSM. Health workers : up 48%; … Airlines: down 5%, MSM: down 7%

    Recent survey says 85% of Americans think the MSM is to blame for dividing the country. Can you think of anything else that would garner 85% support in the general population of the USA?

    Over 6000 small towns/communities, mostly minority ones (black, hispanic etc), have special tax status to help regenerate their economies. The man in charge is African American and is adamant that the entire WH is behind this to the hilt. And it’s working – very, very well. Those places have turned a decline into growth, slow death into life. But hey, they’re “fly-over counties” full of “deplorables”, so no mention in the media.

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