The Australian is now the print version of the ABC

The comments section still carries just enough of the right side balance but the rest of the paper is ideologically The New York Times. Two days back I took a look at Jonathan Swan’s useless interview with Donald Trump which you can find here. I wrote then:

Hardly wild at all. If you see these posts in the context of the full interview, there is nothing whatsoever noteworthy about these moments to single out. I don’t know how the President puts up with it. Must also say that this Swan is a serious jerk. And so shallow that it is an embarrassment. Rude as well.

And you know why you haven’t heard a thing about this interview? It’s because Donald Trump takes the interviewer apart. It also seems to be truncated from what would have been the full interview so Trump must have done even better with the rest of it.

It has now shown up in Cut&Paste: Trump gets grilled by Aussie Jonathan Swan, son of the ABC’s Norman. Here’s how it ends:

Fran Kelly, RN Breakfast, Thursday:

And, full disclosure, he’s the son of Norman Swan, our Norman Swan, host of the Health Report here on RN and the Coronacast podcast.

Days until the US presidential election:


From the C&P you’d think Trump was completely done over. But if you watch the interview, even the bits they were willing to show, Trump took him to the cleaners. And what will happen in 88 days that the Oz is looking forward to? That Joe Biden will be elected? It’s not just the bias at the Oz that bothers me, but the stupidity.

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31 Responses to The Australian is now the print version of the ABC

  1. tgs says:

    The comments section still carries just enough of the right side balance but the rest of the paper is ideologically just The New York Times.

    Nah that’s bullshit.

    The Oz is easily the most balanced major newspaper in the country. That’s not saying a lot, but it’s not the NYT just because the intern who puts together C&P did one issue you didn’t like.

  2. bemused says:

    I’ve said for well over a year that the Australian is now just a Leftist rag not worth paying one cent for any subscription. I can get the same crap from Their ABC for free (or whatever component of my tax is paying for that crap).

  3. Mother Lode says:

    We cannot see the full interview. For some reason it is blocked in Australia.

    Wouldn’t be blocked for the people who will be voting one way or another – the Americans.

    But it is kind of a good sign. The left is again going for the strategy that if they don’t let themselves see Trump doing well, it isn’t happening.

    They did it when the wax-eyed tottering sot Hillary was running against him and there was a whole lot of activity and energy swirling around he nation that they just happened not to see.

    As soon as the ‘train wreck’ interview appears Trump supporting pundits will link to the real one and Trump’s supporters are so fired up that they will spread it around – making them even more determined to beat the MSM and Democrats.

  4. Clam Chowdah says:

    Utter bollocks. The good thing about the Australian is it’s relative balance. If I agreed with everything it would be boring.

  5. H B Bear says:

    Teh Paywallian is fine. Read it for a week and you know who to avoid. I’ve read it for a couple of decades and still not read a Fatty Adams column.

    Our Jessica and Patricia Karvelas didn’t last long.

  6. H B Bear says:

    Greg Sheridan and Adam Creighton are both inclined to run hot and cold. Snoozer Kelly and Prof van Wrongselen are both useful contra indicators.

  7. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I was amused when James jumped ship from Newscorp because they were spouting insufficient global warming propaganda. The Oz hasn’t been the worst but they certainly print plenty of it. However I’ve detected lately more of a move away from the general News line – possibly because James has scarpered, or maybe because they are getting more sceptical of government scientism in general as a result of the bat crud pseudoscience being shoved down our throat lately.

  8. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus says:

    I disagree Steve. The Australian is by the far the most balanced newspaper in Australia. And I saw the Swan interview of Trump – I think Trump looked like an idiot. He really has lost the plot; moreover he has destroyed the Republican brand and therefore has really been the Manchurian Candidate – the Democrat sleeper agent to tear the GOP apart. This he has done an amazing job – basically he will lead to a left wing Democratic Presidency with a Democrat majority in both the HoR and the Senate. I can’t believe you can support this man. The response to Covid has been appalling and the data shows clearly the excess deaths due to the incompetence of the Trump administration. We have had four years of idiocy and he has achieved none of the promises, which is not surprising since he stood for nothing and has no substance. All those people who wanted to take down the elites in Washington have only managed to cement them in more power thanks to their support of Trump.

  9. Matt says:

    If you think that Trump came out of that video the winner, then you’ve obviously seen footage the rest of us hadn’t. It was one of the more embarrassing displays he’s had.

  10. Joanna Smythe says:

    “It is becoming a mystery how one man, one State Government, is being allowed to yield so much power, shut down a whole State, ruin so many businesses and lives, plunge the whole country into turmoil and all for the sake of a virus that has taken precedence over all the other things that kill people every day of the year.”

    I thought that was quite a reasonable comment and tried to post it in response to an article in the Australian yesterday but it was rejected. A lot of comments seem to get rejected now.

  11. bemused says:

    I thought that was quite a reasonable comment and tried to post it in response to an article in the Australian yesterday but it was rejected. A lot of comments seem to get rejected now.

    It is a question that every journalist should be asking, but because they are all of the Left, they won’t. Rejecting the post is a clear indication of what the paper represents. And no, it has nothing to do with whoever is moderating comments, it’s the policy.

  12. Mother Lode says:

    If you think that Trump came out of that video the winner, then you’ve obviously seen footage the rest of us hadn’t. It was one of the more embarrassing displays he’s had.

    That is actually the point Steve was making.

    The full interview sans edits is not the trainwreck cobbled together by Axios.

    Have you seen the full interview? I have not because it is blocked in Australia.

  13. bruce says:

    Steve versus The Oz?
    I’d read Steve every day over Oz. And no paywall.
    The Oz has been death riding President Trump from from pre election to post election.
    I’m all for balance, but with DJT there is none.

  14. Tom says:

    I appreciate your effort, Doomlord, to get published in the former paper of record for Victorians, which is now the paper of record for Victorian public servants, who vote for the Greens or the ALP and loathe the free market.

    In the 13 years since I worked there, it has become even more unrecognisable as public interest journalism. It is now the paper of record of public service tax parasites, who have no stake in the collapse of the Victorian economy, as they are immune from Kung Flu’s devastation of real people’s lives.

  15. H B Bear says:

    I regard getting a comment published as meaning I was not sufficiently sarcastic. Water off a ducks back. What am I going to do? Start reading Teh Grauniad?

  16. NoFixedAddress says:

    Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
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  17. woolfe says:

    Rejected of course, on the Mocker dissembling of Fitsimmian

    In a sea of left driven drivel this column is the reason I still have my Australian Subscription.

    Story: Fitz, best review your comments before Folau rant

  18. New Chum says:

    Steve something to think about.

  19. Chris of Sighs says:

    I filled up in the weekend and petrol was up 40+% from the virus lows. Just like that. Still, the govt oil cartel is going to need those tax receipts more than ever now.

    I tried to participate in one of Adam’s columns.
    Rejected out of hand.
    Beyond me.

  20. H B Bear says:

    HINT Do not make any reference to Professor van Wrongselen.

    Instant fail.

  21. Matt says:

    Mother Lode: Yes, watched the full video, and more of a train wreck than the snippets that have been widely shown here.

  22. Mother Lode says:

    Cool, Matt.

    Where did you watch the full video?

  23. Matt says:

    Axios using a VPN

  24. Michel Lasouris says:

    I rather admire Dr. Norman Swan ( for real doctor he is) as for years he has shed light on the mysteries of Medicine in a most lucid and engaging manner.
    I shouldn’t let it colour my opinion of Doc Swan, but this precocious , impudent and ignorant son would be a dreadful embarrassment to his poor old Dad.
    I sincerely hope that DJT is re-elected not least because the thought of Biden being given the reins of power does not bear thinking about.

  25. Clam Chowdah says:

    I think some posts don’t get through in Oz comments because there are so many of them and the moderators miss them.

    I’ve had a few not get through but plenty of my swingeing, sarcastic and borderline defamatory comments have got through.

  26. Struth says:


  27. Mother Lode says:

    Then raise your points with Steve Kates. You can email the Doomlord I believe to pass on to Steve.

  28. Mother Lode says:

    You see, Matt. I don’t know you but I know Steve (as a poster) and while I think he is a little too forgiving of Trump and eager to believe the best, I have not known him to be 180 degrees wrong.

    So he has a certain cachet which inclines me to his interpretation and, since you have made the assertion contradicting him, I (and I suspect others here) need more than just your word. Since it was important enough for you to post the comment on display to all Cats (and Kittehs) and directed to Steve then to fulfill your intent a bit more effort is required on your part.

    The election is coming up and Cats et al enjoy being prescient, and a lot of them put money on the outcome. So if you would be so obliging…

    I will refer to this request on the OT in case you don’t come back here otherwise.

  29. LBLoveday says:

    The Australian informs:

    Reader comments on this site are moderated before publication to promote lively, but civil and respectful debate.

    I emailed a copy of the following comments to Jason Gagliardi, with the Subject: Is this what passes for debate at The Australian?
    In full, the comment from poster Nandita:
    Ra RA Ra RA ra

    In full, the comment from poster DAVE:
    Goody goody how many shoes?

  30. Matt says:

    Mother Lode. I don’t think knowing me (or Steve, or anyone else for that matter) makes a difference. And argument stands and falls on its merits, not on the person making it. Also, these are opinions, and we all have them. Some people watch that video of Trump and see him wiping the floor with Swan. I don’t.

    Swan: “How? A thousand Americans are dying a day.”
    Trump: “They are dying, that’s true. And it is what it is.

    Some will interpret this (in the context of other parts of the interview) as acknowledging that this is a terrible tragedy. But the dismissive way that he said it made him seem lacking in empathy. I think empathy in a leader is important, particularly in the midst of a crisis where thousands of people are dying (as Trump has acknowledged). So not a great look to appear not to care.

    Trump: “You know, there are those that say you can test too much. You do know that.”
    Swan: “Who says that?”
    Trump: “Oh, just read the manuals. Read the books.”
    Swan: “Manuals? What manuals?”
    Trump: “Read the books. Read the books.”

    This isn’t an answer – books and manuals? It just makes him sound like he doesn’t know what he’s talking about (which to be fair is true of most politicians), but earlier he makes the ridiculous statement the he comprehends extraordinarily well, better than most. So if he understands this so well, then why not be precise with answers.

    There’s more. But my view is that Trump didn’t come out of this interview looking good. Not that it matters, because his base will see him as the winner and his opponents will see him as the loser.

  31. Matt says:

    And if you are betting on the outcome of the election, good luck!

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