Can she breathe? II

I first saw this incident is this tweet.

Now this footage has appeared.

UPDATE: More information from The Australian:

Victoria Police have arrested a young woman not wearing a mask who refused to reveal her name and address.

Video emerged on Monday of an altercation between the woman, 21, refusing to wear a mask and a Victoria Police protective service officer on Wellington Street in Collingwood at about 5pm on Monday.

A Victoria Police spokeswoman said the woman was not fined because she has a condition exempting her from wearing a face covering, which she did not say to the PSO.

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172 Responses to Can she breathe? II

  1. Karabar

    This is a scene from a banana republic police state.
    Hard to believe it was a civilised society only a few months ago.
    We MUST do something about this.
    But what?

  2. caveman

    Not recognize it’s sovereignty, it’s a failed State .
    We should nuke em.

  3. Bulldog

    George Floyd should have taught us not to jump to conclusions before the full body cam is leaked. Context matters and the footage doesn’t show what happened in the lead up. Might have been about a mask or it might not have been. who knows.

  4. Old School Conservative

    I’d give the benefit of the doubt to the police.
    I don’t think the first image of the policeman with his hand around the woman’s throat is the first action in this confrontation.
    I assume she responded aggressively to a verbal instruction to mask up.

  5. C.L.

    Context matters …

    George Floyd was a physically massive bouncer full of at least three varieties of mind-altering drugs.

    If this tummy-sitting pantywaste can’t arrest a chubby bird on his own, he should be fired.

  6. Diogenes

    I don’t think the first image of the policeman with his hand around the woman’s throat is the first action in this confrontation.

    So you think it is perfectly acceptable to grab someone by throat no matter the provocation ?

  7. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    Amazing how there is always a carefully set up camera on the scene? There is always selective recording of these events

  8. DanH

    These two foul-mouthed clowns are clearly agents provocateurs, as the deliberately insulting language and the presence of two cameras, one on a balcony across the street apparently waiting in readiness, suggest. Whom do they represent? Or, perhaps, what do they represent? Some sort of cultural revolution in the manner of the PRC? The police lack the training to deal with this sort of emotional violence, driven by social media savvy, smug youth. It would be satisfactory if the ‘boyfriend’ experienced some retribution from the law. It is very difficult for lesser mortals who obey the law to understand how such a torrent of vile abuse and obstruction could possibly be lawful.

  9. C.L.

    Colonel, 90 percent of the population now carries a camera.

  10. C.L.

    Whom do they represent?

    Normal Australians.

  11. Mustapha Bunn

    Old school conservative… ok for a police officer to place his hands around a woman’s neck then. Hope I don’t have to deal with the likes of this bloke. The same police force that in recent past has stood by while Antifa and recent arrivals from Africa have run riot in Melbourne without doing anything to stop them.

  12. Terry

    Just following orders, no doubt.

    Perhaps they’d be a little more understanding if she brought a few mates and conducted a home invasion.

  13. Mustapha Bunn

    Nine police officers at this confrontation. Before this lockdown I could travel around the Melbourne suburb that I live in for weeks without seeing one officer on the street,on main roads,highways or in shopping centres etc.

  14. Adelagado

    Every cop carries a camera. Couldn’t he just say…

    “OK, we have taken your picture. We can identify you. We have filmed you refusing to obey the law. The fine is $5,ooo and it will be deducted from your welfare payments”.

  15. Rebel with cause

    What was the woman copper doing? Kick bait?

  16. Old School Conservative

    Diogenes
    #3543743, posted on August 11, 2020 at 12:16 pm
    I don’t think the first image of the policeman with his hand around the woman’s throat is the first action in this confrontation.

    So you think it is perfectly acceptable to grab someone by throat no matter the provocation ?

    Please re-read my original post.
    I did not say, nor imply, that throat grabbing is acceptable.
    But since you raised the question – yes, given life-threatening provocation.

    I repeat – I assume the woman started the confrontation and some form of physical response was required.

  17. Rossini

    Ring the cops to solve a problem???

    6 or 8 turn up to arrest this young lady who is obviously a “kung foo” fighter
    Fucken rediculous
    Hope she has the virus and has given it to all those arseholes
    Social distancing ……bullshit

    So annoyed after watching this

    why not carry a couple of masks in their back pocket and offer to any one the suspect should be wearing
    one

    NO well lets beat the shit out of little kung foo girls

    Have no respect for dan’s men in cotton wool anymore

    What a load of crap

  18. Derp

    24 hour rule but this… this is really really not a good look.

  19. Rossini

    Well he had a gun
    Why didn’t he use it
    Useless dick

  20. HGS

    Starting to separate the wheat from the chaff.

    Obey the law, all of it and all the time. Are we allowed to resist, ever?

    Hard to be a libertarian, because the other person has to be allowed to behave with a great deal of freedom.

  21. Tim Neilson

    It looks bad, but there are indications all is not what it seems.
    She’s yelling out “you’re choking me”. If he really was choking her she wouldn’t be able to make that much noise.
    Ergo, she’s milking it for the cameras.
    So I’m not going to condemn the police in the absence of clear evidence what it was about and how it started.

  22. Rohan

    It’s hard to tell what happened at the start because we haven’t seen that. But if it is as the boyfriend said, I hope they sue for every cent they can get.

  23. Rebel with cause

    I assume the woman started the confrontation and some form of physical response was required.

    Ah yes, the officer was simply provoked into applying a choke hold

    Nothing to see here.

  24. paul

    I support Police for the difficult job they have, but this is political policing, jackboot, and these orders can only come from comrade Dan, be tough because you know some one will die.
    Is This how the police must behave? unless of course they are against a mob of anti police BLM fascists who get a pass?

  25. 2dogs

    Resisting persons should be tackled, then cuffed. Not choked.

  26. Bronson

    Mmmmmm hand on throat this is not the way to restrain an uncooperative individual it does not control her potential for resistance as shown in the pictures. Arm and wrist holds are more effective especially as she is much smaller than the officer involved. Said officer needs a deal of retraining in how to place and uncooperative individual as quickly as possible into an arm bar and or wrist lock rather than grab them by the throat. Also the other officer present was of absolutely no assistance in restraining the person. This exhibits poor training.

  27. RJH

    Further living, breathing proof of the limited vocabulary of the products of today’s so-called educational standards? Perhaps the Police response might have been different had she offered some respect and not been so aggressive & rude from the start? She can thank her teachers & parents for her inability to control her aggression & the position she now finds her self in

  28. Rebel with cause

    A few weeks ago a middle aged woman in Frankston was able to overpower two officers and curb stomp one of them. Now we see two officers unable to arrest a chubby teenager without resorting to grabbing her by the throat.

    If Victoria is going to be a police state they may want to invest in some better training.

  29. MatrixTransform

    This exhibits poor training.

    Ninja she aint. That’s for certain.

    disturbingly bad training.
    anybody with an ounce of training would have taken the midget to ground within seconds

    grab the collar like that?
    No. just no.

    Mr grand-over-my-leg-you-go … fuck me fucking dead what an inept old fuck.

    and the woman copper going the slap after being push kicked
    what a disgrace

    to be honest the whole thing looks like a training exercise
    and a bad one
    or staged

    stinks

  30. max

    Obey the law …..

    But it ain’t the law. It’s a directive.

  31. Robber Baron

    Einsatsgruppen everywhere to enfore Government diktats, but no police around when you are in need of protection from criminals.

    We are a third-world fascist shit hole.

  32. MatrixTransform

    oh, and let me add this.

    Little Ms eyes-on-prize copper #2 is not in the least concerned about being circled and filmed by the ‘bystander’

    that’s very very odd ( or theyre stupid, or theyre very badly trained)

    You’d reckon a big well trained fella would easily be able handle the yappy midget on his own.

    You’d reckon polis #2 would be making sure that happened without getting clocked in the head herself by somebody not yet in the fray.

    But then, what the fuck would I know?

  33. Professor Fred Lenin

    We can have an RC into this Police Brutality straight away and borrow $67 million from thr Chinese to pay for it . Doesnt matter if it detracts from the enquiry into the Andrews government culpability in the Chinese Biowar Virus attack . Nothing like a unicorn i the room to direct attention away from the elephant there .

  34. Hydra

    This is simply disgusting.

  35. Strange…they dont look like your average PRC cops

  36. Sean

    ‘Dan Andrews is doing a good job” #NPC
    Dan Andrews has done a great job

  37. MatrixTransform

    nothing about that video rings true.

  38. Rebel with cause

    So she’s been charged with resisting arrest even though the cops acknowledge they had no grounds to arrest her?

    She was charged with resisting police and assaulting police and was bailed to appear at court at a later date.

    “She did not receive a fine for failing to wear a face covering because she later told police she had an exemption,” the spokeswoman said.

  39. jupes

    The comments here are a good indication of how Dan Andrews can get away with being the biggest Covid totolitarian on the planet outside China. Too many people’s first instinct is to support the police over the citizen, even if the video suggests that they were assaulting a young woman for not wearing a mask.

    Secondly, even if there was prior provication, the police appear untrained. The bloke was incompetent and the woman was just useless. What was the point of her being there? Then the massive overreaction of seven other coppers coming to back up the first two just to arrest a young girl. FMD

    Pitiful.

  40. twostix

    Why wasn’t the female “officer” performing the arrest on the female?

  41. pbw

    Rebel with cause,

    What was the woman copper doing?

    She was calling the coppers – the real ones.

    Kick bait?

    Thank you for that.

  42. Tator

    Max,
    a directive made under a declaration of a state of emergency/disaster is effectively the same as a legislated law for the period of time it is effective for. This is covered under the Emergency Management Act.

    As for those whinging about the hold. This hold is very effective for controlling an uncooperative offender when you are unable to grab an arm. I know of quite a few police who used it regularly whilst on duty and none have ever been found by the courts to have used excessive force when using it as it comes under the legal definition of reasonable force. What members of the public need to understand is that when it comes to reasonable force, persuasive case law from the SCOTUS decision on Connor V Graham states:
    “The ‘reasonableness’ of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, and its calculus must embody an allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second decisions about the amount of force necessary in a particular situation.”

    Recognizing this would necessitate a fact-based inquiry, the Court provided this instruction:

    “The ‘reasonableness’ of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight.”

    The Graham court retained one key rationale from the now overruled Johnson v. Glick case stating:

    “With respect to a claim of excessive force, the same standard of reasonableness at the moment applies: ‘Not every push or shove, even if it may later seem unnecessary in the peace of a judge’s chambers,’ Johnson v. Glick, 481 F.2d, at 1033, violates the Fourth Amendment.”

    Graham has long been criticized as dismissing the rights of the subject of LE action. I believe the “reasonable LEO” standard is a thorn in the side of most LE critics who look at videos and apply an untrained, ill-informed analysis to advocate for sanctions against the LEO.

    Here in SA, Police have the protection of Section 65 of the Police Act 1998 which states
    “A member of SA Police does not incur any civil or criminal liability for an honest act or omission in the exercise or discharge, or the purported exercise or discharge, of a power, function or duty conferred or imposed by or under this Act or any other Act or law.”
    I can’t seem to find any such provision in the Victorian equivalent.

  43. jupes

    From Rebel’s link above:

    Officers were patrolling on Wellington Street when they observed the woman not wearing a face mask at about 5pm.

    “Police made the decision to arrest the woman after she failed to provide her name and address,” the spokeswoman said.

    “She also did not state she had an exemption for not wearing a face covering. She then became physically aggressive and kicked a female officer to the upper body. The woman continued to resist arrest and had to be taken to ground before being arrested.”

    So, all that for not wearing a mask or stating her name.

    The female officer was transported to hospital for observation.

    Great job Ms Policewoman. Diversity is a strength.

  44. pbw

    It’s fair enough to wonder about the beginning of this incident. Her friend with the phone out was filming as she was dragged by the bloke up towards his offsider, and it was a reasonable distance. The bloke knows that she has a certificate allowing her to eschew the mask, but he doesn’t mention that until late in the piece.

    What’s interesting is the start of convergence of the BLM/Antifa crowd and libbos and conservatives on civil liberties issues. What if Dan cops flak from the Greens?

  45. Hay Stockard

    It totally disgusts me on so many levels. Typical Fascist but weak as Victoria.

  46. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Here’s my take on what likely transpired, given I can’t watch the video as it is absolutely infuriating (although I did manage to watch about three minutes of the second one)…

    Girl not wearing a face nappie (the note before the video says she had a scarf across her face, which apparently is acceptable as a face covering, or has this since been rescinded?)
    Cop fronts girl for not wearing a face nappie and proceeds to commence issuing a $1652 fine
    Girl takes exception and points out scarf is acceptable (“… you f*cking f*ck, etc”)
    Cop grabs girl …

    And then the video starts.

  47. Diogenes

    . What members of the public need to understand is that when it comes to reasonable force, persuasive case law from the SCOTUS decision on Connor V Graham states:
    “The ‘reasonableness’ of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, and its calculus must embody an allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second decisions about the amount of force necessary in a particular situation.”

    Is there an Aussie case you can quote ?- this applies to the US – has it been quoted by an Australian court ?

  48. Bruce

    A couple of quick jolts from the Taser these “protectors” are supposed to be carrying would have sorted things out. At least they didn’t go “old-school” and empty their Glocks in the general direction of the mouthy ratbags. Said mouthy ratbags also appear to have had some “training’ in this sort of scenario; further investigation is needed, but probably forbidden.

    This whole affair was obviously a set-up and the coppers walked into it. I also suspect that these two from the blue line are going to get a verbal flogging from some of their “colleagues”, accompanied by days of “Death by Powerpoint ” up-skilling sessions.

    It also used to be that copious swearing in a public place would get your attitude adjusted quick-smart.

    Then again, it is Naff Danistan….

  49. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Blah – not quick enough.

    “Police made the decision to arrest the woman after she failed to provide her name and address,” the spokeswoman said. She also did not state she had an exemption for not wearing a face covering.

    Why would you not state you had an exemption if you did?

  50. Robber Baron

    Cop dragged woman down the street. Could have put her to the ground where they were originally standing. Cop has some explaining to do to an experienced barrister.

  51. ExIronCurtain

    The female officer was transported to hospital for observation.

    yeah she may have broken a fingernail…
    add this to the footage from Sydney a few months back.
    full force of the law … if you’re not Nigerian or BLM or Socialist Alternative …
    Cannot believe I’m seeing this in this country.

  52. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    None of my observations above excuse the total incompetence of the two “police” in the video.

    You’re in the best of anarcho-tyrannical paws, Disasterstanians …

  53. Mustapha Bunn

    Ironic that for 10 weeks of the original lock down we were allowed to leave our homes without wearing a face mask.Why are they now mandatory,was it a health hazard back then or not .Was it perhaps the Stasi in Victoria knew that there was a health hazard in March but did not have supplies of the necessary masks until they had been shipped in from China just in time for Stage 4 ?

  54. MatrixTransform

    The female officer was transported to hospital for observation

    frog shit

  55. gafa

    jupes
    #3543863, posted on August 11, 2020 at 1:27 pm
    The comments here are a good indication of how Dan Andrews can get away with being the biggest Covid totolitarian on the planet outside China.
    Pitiful.

    Absolutely correct…and pitiful is an understatement.
    Whilst first impressions can occasionally be misleading, some supporters of the Victoria Police State seem to have lost all sense of logic, critical thinking and a sense of proportionality. Compliant little citizens who would fit right into 1930’s Germany and just obediently look the other way.

    The problem with many people theses days is they think that if they’re stupid and fearful enough to wear a mask outside in the open air and wide open spaces then goddammit so should everyone else, they don’t want to stand out as the only idiot in the room…she wasn’t even on a packed, overloaded train or bus ffs!

    Why wasn’t the female “officer” performing the arrest on the female?

    If I was being very generous here, I almost got the impression that the female cop was at first having trouble buying into the whole thing and just wanted to walk away from her dickhead partner and let him stew in his own filthy mess he created. Then again, maybe she was just a useless piece of shit.

  56. Steve

    There was no need for this girl to fight like she did I would hope she gets book thrown at her. Was it staged you would have to think so cameras every where? If she was genuine about having a reason not to wear a mask then it could all have been avoided. A lot of keyboard warriors here blame the policeman but he is doing the job the state pays him for, if the police aren’t properly trained and it is obvious the female policewoman is useless then blame Dan Andrews. How would you react when faced with a spoiled child who no doubt has been told all her life she is wonderful and can do no wrong? This more about a spoiled generation of children who have brought up with no respect for anyone else. We are seeing this in the USA with children rioting demanding the police be defunded. I was born in Melbourne I would never visit there again and do I think masks are necessary? no I don’t.

  57. twostix

    It’s fair enough to wonder about the beginning of this incident.

    Why?

    Is it standard procedure for a policeman in Victoria to arrest someone for the crime of walking down the street by grabbing them by the throat and forcing them to the ground?

    As if there’s some scenario that played out seconds before that suddenly makes everyone say “OH WELL, in that case Policy #3422: Throat Grab Arrest kicks in”.

    100% chance we wouldn’t have grabbed a 6’+ male by the throat like that for the ‘crime’ of not wearing a mask.

    He did it because she’s a girl.

  58. incoherent rambler

    Why would you not state you had an exemption if you did?

    coz it is difficult to speak with a hand crushing your larynx

    vik cops lost the plot some time ago.

  59. twostix

    A lot of keyboard warriors here blame the policeman but he is doing the job the state pays him for,

    The state pays policemen to grabbing a girl by the throat to arrest her for not accepting a fine?

    The keyboard warriors are the ones saying this is perfectly acceptable.

    Weirdo’s!

  60. Walter Plinge

    Vicpol going the full Stasi, again. They love it. They can get a bit of biff in knowing they have the backing of Kim Jong Dan.

    As expected the policewoman stands around and looks on.

  61. Derp

    “Police made the decision to arrest the woman after she failed to provide her name and address,” the spokeswoman said.

    “She also did not state she had an exemption for not wearing a face covering. She then became physically aggressive and kicked a female officer to the upper body. The woman continued to resist arrest and had to be taken to ground before being arrested.”

    The female officer was transported to hospital for observation.

    The woman was taken to a police station to confirm her identity.

    She was charged with resisting police and assaulting police and was bailed to appear at court at a later date.

    “She did not receive a fine for failing to wear a face covering because she later told police she had an exemption,” the spokeswoman said.

    “The arrest has been referred to Professional Standards Command for oversight.”

    Some of those official statements are already at odds with the contents of the videos.
    The trip to the hospital for the female copper who milked a penalty was laying it on thick.

  62. twostix

    An old man and his timid female side kick violantly manhandling a foul mouthed torn-jeaned girl for not wearing a correct face nappy in public.

    This is Victoria.

    Retarded conservatives loving the site of black-clad policeman beating up a girl because she’s not compliant with the commo-state dictatorship.

    This is australian conservatism.

    LOL.

  63. stevem

    The long video has the person filming (her boyfriend) tell the police time and time again that she has a medical exemption – must be over 50 times. The male cop just keeps sitting on her while the female cop looks in the other direction. Finally 8-10 reinforcements arrive who threaten the boyfriend.
    I can’t imagine what provocation would have made the male cop justify being filmed behaving that way.

  64. Stimpson J. Cat

    How is three White People just being White People,
    and two Women just being Women, news?

    Grow up everyone.

  65. Walter Plinge

    This is an instance when the Christine Nixon approach would be better. Take a photo and catch up with the offender in a month or two, if time permits.

  66. a happy little debunker

    One point I think we can all agree on – is that the police officers failed to de-escalate the situation.
    That is a police failure any way you cut it.

  67. gafa

    “A member of SA Police does not incur any civil or criminal liability for an honest act or omission in the exercise or discharge, or the purported exercise or discharge, of a power, function or duty conferred or imposed by or under this Act or any other Act or law.”

    Lack of accountability and consequences invariably leads to and enables reckless, negligent, dangerous, oppressive and despotic behavior…doesn’t matter whether they’re a CEO, Doctor, Bouncer, Copper or Premier etc!

    Why would you not state you had an exemption if you did?

    Just give it time and more of this police publicity.

    For now some people are still having trouble with being pulled over, accosted and questioned when just going about their normal, lawful daily business.

    For a lot of people their first reaction with the surge of adrenaline and the fear or flight reflex that comes with the initial shock of being accosted and questioned to justify your normal existence can cause a lot of emotion and reticence, particularly for people who don’t often interact with the police and generally go about as normal law abiding citizens.

    However the glorious VicPol will no doubt in quick time make sure this badthink is soon beaten out of the proletarians and that they are forced into obsequious submission.

    Police are trained to escalate not de-escalate, thayse always gotta save face and their fragile power-tripping snowflake egos!
    #respectnorespect

  68. Daily llama

    I thought it was great fun. Reminds me of the old wrestling days back in the 60s with Jack Little!

  69. Win

    Victorian police having failed miserably with rampaging African youths and terrorists are now demonstrating that they can do law enforcement on women preferably half their size who they can as we can see ,they choke and bruise as they heroically manhandle them to the ground where upon they either sit on until reinforcements arrive if only 2 or kneel on if three police officers are assisting at the crime scene of not wearing a mask or not being at home in an Andrews induce second wave Corona virus epidemic.

  70. Rossini

    Walter Plinge
    #3543937, posted on August 11, 2020 at 2:18 pm
    This is an instance when the Christine Nixon approach would be better. Take a photo and catch up with the offender in a month or two, if time permits.</strong
    same should have happened with the 4 cops killed on freeway at Kew

  71. thefrollickingmole

    Im also for waiting 24 hours or so for more info, but it looks like shit for the copper.

    And as ive mentioned before someone needs to front up to Dan “Panda-demic” Andrews and ask what level of force hes happy to see applied to coerce compliance from individuals.

    Apparently physical force to ensure compliance is fine.
    Only question left is what level of physical force hes comfortable with seeing used.

    Because Liberty Victoria are perfectly fine with compulsion….

    https://libertyvictoria.org.au/content/bendigo-residents-urged-wear-face-masks-no-human-right-being-breached
    BENDIGO RESIDENTS URGED TO WEAR FACE MASKS, BUT NO ‘HUMAN RIGHT’ IS BEING BREACHED
    Liberty Victoria advocates for the rights and freedoms of people when it believes they are threatened by governments and organisations.

    Its vice president Julia Kretzenbacher, who is a barrister, says being made to wear a face mask is not a breach of human rights.

    “It may be a limitation on someone’s right but that’s a limitation that is reasonably necessary for the broader human right of the right to life and the right to health,” she said.

  72. notafan

    Recruiting middle aged men and small women into vicplod is working a treat.

    Where are the foot patrols of blind and wheelchair bound coppers?

  73. Iampeter

    There’s a lot of issues involved in this.
    You’re always going to get thug cop behaviour when you make policy not based on individualist political theory. This isn’t new. Police have been pulling people over for no reason and assaulting them by forcing them to blow into things for a very long time. Not to mention the “speeding” shake downs and so forth.
    On the other hand, even in the most perfect, rights-protecting republic I could imagine, you’re still going to have people disagreeing about laws all the time. It doesn’t mean you don’t follow them. If people can pick and choose which laws they obey then you just have anarchy anyway.
    Then on the other hand, I’m pretty sure there’s a process for handcuffing people and the guy choking the lady doesn’t seem to be following whatever it is, so there’s the issue of training.

    Then there’s the idea that accountability should go both ways. I agree that people without masks, etc, should be fined and so forth, but at the same time those who implement policy resulting in the destruction of billions of dollars of wealth and the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands, should go to jail for doing so.

    So there’s a lot of different things to consider here.

  74. Eddystone

    She wasn’t being choked.

  75. incoherent rambler

    I can think of a few places in Viktoristan where a cop handling a woman in that manner would be lucky to get away with just a simple beating.

  76. jupes

    So there’s a lot of different things to consider here.

    LOL

    C’mon pete you can do better than that. Surely there’s a “lefty pretending to be conservative”angle in there somewhere.

  77. jupes

    She wasn’t being choked.

    Strangulated then.

  78. tgs

    Jeez that whole thing was difficult to watch and everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves, though the VicPol numpties should be the most embarrassed.

  79. Eddystone

    You can’t speak that clearly and loudly if you’re being strangled.

  80. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Is this the same police force that handles serious public order disturbances, riots, violence, etc. by a week or so later perusing images & video to determine the identity of offenders & then goes about tracking the down?

    That’ll teach her to walk in public showing her face while white.

  81. candy

    Always distressing to see a female wrestled to the ground by a male police officer because of the difference in strength.
    The Victorian police might need some training to deal with women in these confrontations over mask wearing so it does not become a bit brutal.

  82. Makka

    Lord, this is a shit thread. I count 8 cops to restrain a short woman for what- not having a mask? What law has she broken to desere this kind of physical state approved abuse? And many here think physically assaulting her in the process is A ok? . Disgusting.

  83. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Watching that arrest is like watching a pair of middle class males fighting.

  84. Jac

    Best scam I’ve seen!!! Go back to post at 1.51 and see GOFUNDME link to help the poor girl by raising $100,000!!

  85. Jonesy

    A simple pressure point between 1st and 2nd digit on your outside palm and I can make you go anywhere I want.

  86. gafa

    You can’t speak that clearly and loudly if you’re being strangled.

    Wow, fantastic observation, amazing, most definitely the biggest point that needs to be made here 😲!
    Is that really your only takeaway, the thing to focus on? When people are scared or angry they scream and will say almost anything.
    Big picture, Big picture, Flight 401 alert!

  87. Not Uh oh

    Eddystone
    #3543986, posted on August 11, 2020 at 3:16 pm
    She wasn’t being choked.

    Agree. It looked to me like he had hold of her clothing and then moved one hand up around her jaw. He was also very gentle with the way he lowered her to the footpath. Pity he couldn’t shut her up; her language was appalling.

  88. Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr

    Hmm… now I’ve watched all Four videos of the arrest (unless there’s more?)
    It’s certainly very different from any other arrest I’ve seen.

  89. Boambee John

    A man ofcany adult size manhandling a small woman is never a good look (or so I was taught many decades ago).

  90. incoherent rambler

    her language was appalling

    Oh. That makes it all ok then.

  91. Red Robbo

    Clearly Vikpolizei regard not walking down the street without a mask as being more dangerous than, say, being a well-known violent offender using a car as a weapon, leading a pursuit half-way across Melbourne, threatening by-standers and doing burn-outs outside Flinders Street Station.

  92. C.L.

    Retarded conservatives loving the site of black-clad policeman beating up a girl because she’s not compliant with the commo-state dictatorship.

    This is australian conservatism.

    LOL.

    The Ray Hadley army.

  93. JC

    Jac

    Why does she need 100K to fund her legal defense? It’s not going to cost that much. Ease up.

    This a disgrace and total disgrace.

    The Sheila cops do zip like always. They just stand there and try and look pretty.

  94. Stimpson J. Cat

    So there’s a lot of different things to consider here.

    Is this the part where you tell everyone they weren’t Real Iampeter Conservatives ™ or Real Iampeter Police™ or Real Iampeter Libertarians™ or something?

  95. TPL001

    Daily Llama:

    WCW … at Festival Hall.

    Check it out at 2:45. Reminds me of something I have seen in a recent video!

    The depth analysis at 00:30 is choice: “When you cut the blood supply to the brain, it’s a little harder to get it flowing again”!



  96. Mak Siccar

    From memory, The Oz refers to the male officer as a PSO.

  97. Rex Mango

    What a polite & civil society we live in nowadays & wasn’t that cops partner useful when trying to arrest that girl.

  98. incoherent rambler

    Clearly Vikpolizei regard not walking down the street without a mask as being more dangerous than, say, being a well-known violent offender using a car as a weapon, leading a pursuit half-way across Melbourne, threatening by-standers and doing burn-outs outside Flinders Street Station.

    Clearly indeed.

    Dan’s hump will be swelling with pride at his wonderful Sturmabteilung.

  99. Agree. It looked to me like he had hold of her clothing and then moved one hand up around her jaw.

    That’s how you can choke someone.

  100. Makka

    On the other hand, even in the most perfect, rights-protecting republic I could imagine, you’re still going to have people disagreeing about laws all the time. It doesn’t mean you don’t follow them.

    Pull out the book, issue the fine and move on. All that old cop had to do and let “justice” run it’s course. What lawful right did he have to physically restrain and assault her? What a fkn hero, couldn’t even cuff a young woman by himself. Then called in 2 or 3 other units sirens blaring to assist with the emergency. All the idiot fem cop could do was “keep the crowd back”. Fmd.

  101. gafa

    Best scam I’ve seen!!! Go back to post at 1.51 and see GOFUNDME link to help the poor girl by raising $100,000!

    Ah, so the cops just fell right into the cunning trap eh what. Are you saying the cops are just really gullible, ignorant buffoons who are easily hoodwinked into acting incredibly stupidly by focusing on the inane and the irrelevant? If so, then I say more fool them serves ’em right…..pay the kids for bravely proving just what an autocratic and totalitarian place Victoria has become.
    Just because someone sets up a gofundme doesn’t always mean they’re scam artists…mostly, but not always.

  102. Tim Neilson

    jupes
    #3543990, posted on August 11, 2020 at 3:21 pm
    Stimpson J. Cat
    #3544036, posted on August 11, 2020 at 3:55 pm

    Fair’s fair. This is a very rare occasion where Iampeter has acknowledged that a real world situation isn’t definable solely by an absolutist abstract doctrinal generality.
    I’m not convinced that decision making in specific instances always need recourse to “individualist political theory”, but otherwise I don’t see anything to criticise in this one of his comments.

  103. Roger

    Whatever happened to Peel’s principles of policing?

  104. thefrollickingmole

    Jonesy
    #3544013, posted on August 11, 2020 at 3:41 pm
    A simple pressure point between 1st and 2nd digit on your outside palm and I can make you go anywhere I want.

    And a simple “gooseneck” on a wrist can do the same (95% of the time)

    Point being, is this “offence” needing an escalation to physical force.
    If so why?

  105. Sinclair Davidson

    It seems to me that if the Liberal Opposition in Victoria were serious that they would announce that any human rights violations by Police or ADF personnel will be vigorously pursued by a future government. That immediately voids any ‘immunity’ claims they might bring in their defence.

  106. Jock

    Now that they have practiced, perhaps the Vic police can now arrest real criminals, rioters and rapists. And perhaps next time they can arrest them without sitting on the little girls tummies?

  107. Rebel with cause

    Re the use of intemperate language – she could’ve responded to the officers request to see her papers (simply because she wasn’t wearing a face mask) with a rousing speech about how such a request is not in keeping with ancient liberties and her rights as a citizen…

    Or she could tell the pig cop to get f____d. I won’t judge on the basis she deployed the later response.

  108. lotocoti

    Whatever happened to Peel’s principles of policing?

    They were sacrificed for the “public good”.
    Which benefitted neither the public, nor the good.

  109. incoherent rambler

    Sinclair Davidson #3544059, posted on August 11, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    Wot Sinclair said.

  110. flyingduk

    Memo to VICPOL: Try that shit with me and one of us is ending up dead!

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    It seems to me that if the Liberal Opposition in Victoria were serious that they would announce that any human rights violations by Police or ADF personnel will be vigorously pursued by a future government. That immediately voids any ‘immunity’ claims they might bring in their defence.

    Isn’t Tim Wilson a serious Liberal in Victoria?
    What does he think about this video?
    Make it happen Tim!!!

  112. Roger

    It seems to me that if the Liberal Opposition in Victoria were serious that they would announce that any human rights violations by Police or ADF personnel will be vigorously pursued by a future government.

    Did I miss something?

    ADF personnel have no powers of arrest (other than those that apply to all citizens, which I’m fairly sure they would have been instructed not to employ in the current context).

    In fact, the legal clause under which they are being deployed specifically states that they can only be so deployed as support to police if there is no likelihood that they will be required to use force.

  113. Sinclair Davidson

    Tim is a federal MP.

    This is a state Liberal Party matter.

  114. Makka

    This is a state Liberal Party matter.

    No matter. Same party. Or is this another pissweak LP thing.

  115. Lee

    Clearly Vikpolizei regard not walking down the street without a mask as being more dangerous than, say, being a well-known violent offender using a car as a weapon, leading a pursuit half-way across Melbourne, threatening by-standers and doing burn-outs outside Flinders Street Station.

    What makes that terrible incident even worse is that earlier on his car was stopped in heavy traffic at a red light (in Prahran or somewhere very nearby, IIRC), he couldn’t have moved even if he wanted to, was apparently literally surrounded by police who were keen to use the opportunity to move in arrest him, but who were told by morons in police command to let him continue on his merry way.
    I don’t know if the powers-that-be in VicPol thought they would have a better chance to stop him elsewhere (personally, I think they were probably clueless), but if so they were very fatally wrong.

  116. incoherent rambler

    I have emailed uniparty members, Attached the video.
    Question is simple.
    The behaviour is either acceptable or it is not. Which is it?

  117. Chris M

    Whatever happened to Peel’s principles of policing?

    Exactly, members of the public should have protected her from that violent thug and his gender diversity hire sidekick.

    We can see why the Vikcops are not to be seen when actual criminals are around 1) they might get hurt, soft target only 2) who could tell which criminal is the worse. Clearly the Vikcops are better armed and steal vastly more from the public than the Africans.

    Crazy number of people here supporting this thuggery – walking in a mostly empty street without a face mask that would do absolutely nothing. Zero harm or inconvenience to anyone. “Oh, but her language is so bad!” Libertarians are very odd, like crazy uncles.

  118. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tim is a federal MP.

    This is a state Liberal Party matter.

    Oh well,
    I still want to hear his opinion on the line between human rights and Police/Government over reach.
    He’s an expert on staying inside the lines.
    He has his own coloring book!

  119. Lee

    Stimpson, are you thinking of Tim Smith, a state Liberal MP in Victoria?
    He has been extremely critical of Andrews and the government over its bungling and handling of the virus business, especially the “security” fiasco.
    In fact, IIRC, one of Smith’s own federal Liberal colleagues – to his shame – had a go at him for his attacks on Andrews.

  120. Roger

    Peel:

    “… recognize always that the power of the police to fulfill their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behavior, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.”

    I realise there is little hope for reform of VicPol under the current regime. Someone reported here recently that Peel’s principles aren’t even taught at the VicPol academy anymore.

  121. I put in the first $20 – just for entertainment value.

  122. incoherent rambler

    The youtube video is going to be an international smash hit.

  123. Chris M

    a directive… is effectively the same as a legislated law for the period of time it is effective for.

    If this thugforce had an ounce of integrity left they would collectively decide not to enforce the ridiculous non-offence mask edit from Facist Dan. Just ignore it or require evidence of efficacy at the least – unless you are an NPC. Learn to recognise when you are the baddies.

  124. Tator

    Diogenes,
    not sure if it has been used, but even though it is a US SCOTUS decision means it isn’t a binding case law as such, I would argue it could be used as a persuasive case law which means it influences legal decisions by the judiciary but doesn’t force the judiciary to follow it.

  125. Incoherent Rambler:

    Why would you not state you had an exemption if you did?

    coz it is difficult to speak with a hand crushing your larynx
    vik cops lost the plot some time ago.

    We don’t know that the girl didn’t tell him that.

  126. Here’s the problem.
    The police had multiple ways to arrest/fine the girl.
    They chose fairly violent behaviour.

  127. Tator

    Gafa,
    police are normally very accountable for their actions. What this Section does is cover an individual police officer who is acting in good faith and everything turns to shit. It does not however cover actions that are not carried out in good faith or are malicious in nature. It also enables police to utilise their authorities without risk of prosecution for carrying out those duties. Otherwise, every time a police officer arrests anyone, they would be liable for assault charges even if the arrest was simply placing the offender in handcuffs.
    Actions of police are accountable to their immediate supervisors and branch managers, Professional Standards Branch, ICACs and parliament. Not to mention the Coroner when the worst happens and death occurs.

  128. DD

    Didn’t look like an arrest, more like an attempted murder. Whatever went before the girl would have been terrified and apprehensive of serious injury or death. The police action was totally out of proportion. Was he in fear for his life?
    Incompetence and negligence seem to accompany all Victorian action since the virus appeared.

  129. stevem

    In a statement, Victoria Police confirmed the arrest had been referred for internal review.

    She was charged with resisting police and assaulting police and was bailed to appear at court at a later date.

    “She did not receive a fine for failing to wear a face covering because she later told police she had an exemption,” the spokeswoman said.

    “The arrest has been referred to Professional Standards Command for oversight.”

  130. nb

    I guess we can import some virtue police from Iran. I’m sure China can arrange it for Mr Andrews.

  131. jupes

    Fair’s fair. This is a very rare occasion where Iampeter has acknowledged that a real world situation isn’t definable solely by an absolutist abstract doctrinal generality.

    Sure, but he could have worked in a “this incident is what you should expect if you support closed borders or Donald Trump” or some such shit. He seems to have lost his mojo. Sad.

  132. Squirrel

    Whatever the truth of the matter, did Darling Dan get asked about this in his daily dirge of drivel with the media today – or was it not an issue for them because the woman does not look like an obvious identity politics victim?

  133. incoherent rambler

    Professional Standards

    1. Grab throat ✅
    2. Push against wall while still holding throat ✅
    3. Throw to ground so knees can be used ✅
    4. Wait for backup to help with handcuffs ✅
    5. Ask why a mask is not being worn ✅
    6. Ask for name and address ✅

    Looks compliant to me.

  134. gafa

    police are normally very accountable for their actions.

    Appreciate your good thoughts, nonetheless, for the most part it’s just Police policing Police and that has historically never worked out well, except for the Police.

    I’m not saying it’s an easy job ( it is mostly, but not always) and some of the latitude you refer to is obviously needed when dealing with real or dangerous criminals but what we are seeing here, more and more, is just petty petticoat policing by an over empowered group (especially at the present time) who is more interested in getting their paycheck than having any civic scruples or conscience.

    I’d almost bet that since their Eve Black embarrassment, that the order has gone out to go hard and give no quarter, especially if phone cameras are filming everything….don’t want the public getting the “wrong” idea and hey don’t worry because we’ve got your back, nudge nudge wink wink.
    VikPol: we’re all in this together!

  135. HT

    Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3543889,

    Why would you not state you had an exemption if you did?

    Because producing ID to the police on demand is, or rather until a month ago, was required only in prescribed circumstances. Walking down a street is not one of those circumstances. Her failing to produce ID is likely correlated to her not wearing a mask.

    I’ll reserve my opinion on the episode until we know more. But gotta say, even if the police acted lawfully and it wasn’t an overreaction, even if it was a setup, it’s not ever going to appear in a police PR video.

  136. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Her failing to produce ID is likely correlated to her not wearing a mask.

    Failing to produce ID, or failing to produce evidence of an exemption? Commenters from Disasterstan have posted here that you don’t even need to produce evidence, you simply tell the cop you have an exemption.

    Walking down a street is not one of those circumstances.

    So she didn’t need to produce ID and could have simply told the PSO she had a face nappy exemption.

    “She did not receive a fine for failing to wear a face covering because she later told police she had an exemption,” the spokeswoman said.

    So one of them clearly escalated at some point – quite frankly, my money’s on the PSO.

  137. incoherent rambler

    fuggamee

    Ch7 report it as an attack on police.

  138. Tintarella di Luna

    She was charged with resisting police and assaulting police and was bailed to appear at court at a later date.

    “She did not receive a fine for failing to wear a face covering because she later told police she had an exemption,” the spokeswoman said.

    Those two paragraphs appear cancel each other out — she had an exemption therefore they should not have been arrested and the charge should be immediately dropped — what a terrible thing to see

  139. Makka

    Ch Nien in Vicco;

    “Nasty woman uses swear words and assaults Police. Facing 6 months in prison”.

  140. hzhousewife

    Police Officer : “Hello there, I (we) notice you are n0t wearing a mask, any reason?
    Member of the Public : “No, I can’t wear a mask because ……xyz”
    OR “Yes I should have a mask but couldn’t get hold of one right now……”
    Police Officer : “Here you are, wear this now and get away home.”

    Hands over a $1.00 mask and all confrontation avoided.

    I know, I know, perfect world………………

  141. NoFixedAddress

    Victoria – The Disaster State

    STAYING
    APART KEEPS
    YOU
    ISOLATED
    SO WE CAN TAKE YOU OUT
    AT OUR LEISURE

  142. Iampeter

    Retarded conservatives loving the site of black-clad policeman beating up a girl because she’s not compliant with the commo-state dictatorship.

    What do you mean? The people up in arms over this have no issue with children sitting in camps in America because they are “illegal immigrants.” You guys literally think the state can put people in camps for going about their business but then this video is too far?

    There you go Jupes 😛

    Oh and BTW, Jupes, it’s not “leftists pretending to be conservatives,” but rather conservatives are just religious and politically illiterate leftists.

  143. The BigBlueCat

    I’d be reserving any judgement until all the facts are known … you’d have to be defective to judge anything from those videos – we don’t know how it escalated. Not a good look for either party; resisting arrest never ends well and looks ugly.

    Been said before: play stupid games, win stupid prizes. (That’s a warning, not a judgement)

  144. The BigBlueCat

    BTW, I didn’t see any “police brutality” in that video … can I have my money back? Some of you people have no idea what police brutality looks like!

  145. This is a force that smashes car windows and drags out drivers for not obeying the order “pappers plis”
    On the other hand, I’ll bet London to a brick this smart arse girl watched too many videos from the USA where resisting coppers and filming it is a thing.

    Also, I don’t think the old bloke or the fat arsed sheila with him are full fledged coppers are they? Aren’t they some police support division of sorts?

  146. incoherent rambler

    I ‘m not asserting “police brutality”, call me old fashioned but it doesn’t take that level of force to arrest a small sheela.
    Unnecessarily violent.

  147. mh

    Nothing to see here – she’s white.

  148. HT

    Spurgeon Monkfish III
    #3544212, posted on August 11, 2020 at 5:59 pm

    Failing to produce ID, or failing to produce evidence of an exemption? Commenters from Disasterstan have posted here that you don’t even need to produce evidence, you simply tell the cop you have an exemption.

    Walking down a street is not one of those circumstances.

    So she didn’t need to produce ID and could have simply told the PSO she had a face nappy exemption.

    “She did not receive a fine for failing to wear a face covering because she later told police she had an exemption,” the spokeswoman said.

    So one of them clearly escalated at some point – quite frankly, my money’s on the PSO.

    Indeed, on the face of it the police (its not a PSO, they wear yellow accruements) the police appear to have completely failed to de-esculate the situation. I still want the minute or two before the released tape though.

  149. JohnJJJ

    I think a few people here have to travel and see what policing really is. She was lucky she did get a lathi smack across the knees. In Australia it is simple, just do what the cops ask. And believe me we are not a police state.

  150. Hay Stockard

    John JJJ,
    In Australia you comply with reasonable directions and requests from the Police. If a police person or anyone else tried that choke hold on me they would have two broken arms. Is there a bit of fascist in you? A bit of informer? Come on, you can tell us.

  151. HT

    JohnJJJ
    #3544526, posted on August 11, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    I hear what your saying…but… Because its ok or normal elsewhere doesn’t it make it ok here. We have been and largely remain much better than that.

    I happily follow the lawful direction of police in Australia. I (honestly) believe as a consequence of previous employment that we in Australia have amongst the very best police forces in the world. But, and there is but, I will not blindly follow whatever mindless, malicious or vexatious command they decree. And they will, if allowed to go unchecked, misuse their authority.

    I can’t see how this incident shown today in Melbourne is helping build anything but mistrust and contempt for VICPOL. Both the Australian public and VICPOL deserve mutual trust and respect; that’s not the way you get it.

    I really do want to see the minute before the video though.

  152. HT

    mh
    #3544478, posted on August 11, 2020 at 8:40 pm
    Nothing to see here – she’s white.

    I think your onto something.

  153. MatrixTransform

    the minute before the video

    how inconveniently missing is it ?

    … all bullshit

    just saying

  154. Pete

    Aaaah Australia’s answer to Floyd, no doubt she’s a woke feminist, mad leftist and a sad scenario of how Australia has fallen.

  155. Safe to say from reading the thread that a lot of Cats have never been up close to the sharp end of policing.
    Aside from the poor optics of the situation & the clumsy manner of the policeman (perhaps he was trying to not be too rough on her) there’s nothing to see about the mechanics of the arrest.

    This sort of thing happens outside or inside my place all the time. (though usually not as clumsily executed – then again, one out of two Plod being as totally & completely useless as that wymmins copper is something I’ve not seen before)

    The general run of the middle class do not realise just how common is that scenario on the videos. Every bit of it, including the arrival of coppers who didn’t see what happened but get all Butch with a bystander – albeit a bystander who seems to be trying for a Gold Medal in “pushing his luck”.

    How it got to the point she’s being arrested we don’t see – thus cannot comment & not going to bother speculating (at this stage anyway)

    As said above, see some robust police action in other countries – then get back to us about how brutal you think this arrest was.

    Unless of course you want to compare it to Vicpol’s record on handling Soo-dan-knees violence in Melbournibad – in which case you’re justified in going off your tits at that officer & the whole of Vicpol management cohort.

    postscript: The only thing to do when Plod turn up, is put your hands in the air, say nothing, & comply as best you can with what the officer says.

  156. HzHw:

    Hands over a $1.00 mask and all confrontation avoided.
    I know, I know, perfect world………………

    Here’s the problem.
    The police had multiple ways to arrest/fine the girl.
    They chose fairly violent behaviour.

  157. HT

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3544588, posted on August 11, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    This sort of thing happens outside or inside my place all the time. …

    Can you please tell me where you live so I can choose elsewhere to live 🙂

  158. Can you please tell me where you live so I can choose elsewhere to live 🙂

    You’ve never been around, mate.
    That sort of thing happens a lot more often than you may first think.

    As said above, the middle class are cossetted from many of the seamier aspects of life. Sometimes it is a shock to realise just how much.

    I’ve seen blokes in country towns, who think they know everybody & everything that happens in & around town, yet so shocked they turn pale when they’re shown the chargebook in the police station – not so much shocked at what has gone on in their sleepy district – shocked that they had no idea what goes on.

  159. HT

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3544606, posted on August 11, 2020 at 10:17 pm
    Can you please tell me where you live so I can choose elsewhere to live 🙂

    You’ve never been around, mate.
    That sort of thing happens a lot more often than you may first think.

    Maybe it does. I’m not as naive as I may sound though. The police officer is supposedly a professional, and it will be an interesting read to see the argument that his actions were not disproportionate to the alleged offences. If this video was a setup, that police officer walked right in. If it wasn’t a set up, and no weapons were produced or likewise actual punching or violence occurred before he scruffed her by the neck, then he has questions to answer. That’s the deal when police exercise their authority, they must act within the law, and be seen to be doing so professionally.

  160. Cold-Hands

    A bit like Blair’s Law, all the weirdness is converging.

    With all the #SaveTheChildren interest in tunnels, it appears that Hezbollah had some beneath the exploded warehouse in Beirut. I imagine they were used for run of the mill arms smuggling and/or production, rather than the Child trafficking that rumour says is so widespread.

  161. MH: I wouldn’t like to be in that copper’s shoes.
    He should have done what the wymmenses copper did – bluddee nothing.

    That aside, I’ve a feeling the alleged offence will be “taking a swing at a Constable” (regardless of what came before)
    The video from upstairs across the street would seem to support this.

    I’ve seen dozens of chicks who were nowhere near as mouthy or resistant as her, get taken down a whole lot harder – but nowhere near as clumsily, & certainly nowhere near as long to do it.

    Him being a PSO may be the reason he was so inept at taking the sass out of her & slapping on the govt. issue bracelets.

    For Plod to be grappling for that length of time with a miscreant it usually is a boof who is larger than Plod & who is determined to make it has hard as he can for them – without getting himself shot.

  162. Cold-Hands

    oops. Wrong thread.

  163. Rex Mango

    Cops are not perfect, but worst thing I saw in that video was how long he took to take a potty mouthed abuser down and cuff her. Her mate should’ve been done too for causing a public disturbance.

  164. I notice the GoFundMe site has only one donation for $20.
    Me.
    I thought it was worth it for the entertainment value.
    Obviously I need to go back to watching film noir…

  165. HT

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3544717, posted on August 11, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    Him being a PSO may be the reason he was so inept at taking the sass out of her & slapping on the govt. issue bracelets.

    Why do people keep saying this? His is clearly wearing VICPOL uniform. Both those police officers, the male and female, are Sworn VICPOL members. No ifs, no buts. VICPOL 🙂

  166. The BigBlueCat

    HT
    #3544815, posted on August 12, 2020 at 6:54 am
    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3544717, posted on August 11, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    Him being a PSO may be the reason he was so inept at taking the sass out of her & slapping on the govt. issue bracelets.

    Why do people keep saying this? His is clearly wearing VICPOL uniform. Both those police officers, the male and female, are Sworn VICPOL members. No ifs, no buts. VICPOL 🙂

    If you look carefully at the video, the police officer (not a PSO – he was Police) was being very careful when he took that “miscreant” down. He was not inept, but using the techniques he was trained in. He was using pressure points under her jaw to control her – there was no choking going on there and reports are that she was spitting at him – charming! The little “princess” apparently had also taken a swing at him and had certainly been kicking and screaming and acted in a highly abusive manner.

    Anyway, she’s been charged with resisting arrest, so she can spend some time contemplating that. Her poor decision to not comply with reasonable police requests might make her unemployable, or employable only to the CFMEU, ETU and MUA.

  167. MatrixTransform

    If pressing your thumb into somebody’s larynx is “using a pressure point” then it must be ok.

    Listen kiddies, I don’t care what y’all think it looked like.
    it was fake

    he tried the collar, which is absurd if she is a punchy unknown that needs restraint
    tried the frog-march … why? to where?

    made a great show of getting the thumb in. Pretty gently in my opinion. Certainly gentle enough for her to grab his thumb (awesome camera angle at this point)

    struggle dies down now just enough for plod #2 go for a slap

    then the most inept hip-throw I’ve ever seen to gently lay down the previously thrashing ninja so that he can proceed with the ticking and nipple twisting.

    utter horse shit.

  168. Anyone who accepts the “faked, for theatre to scare the hoi polloi” theory also has to accept that the Andrews govt is capable of organising & pulling off such a stunt.

    IF, if, such a stunt was staged, surely the takedown would be a whole lot better choreographed?
    i.e. a quick, simple & unpleasant looking sweep of the legs followed by some furious but harmless thrashing around?

    (Or even better, an actual tasering!)

  169. The BigBlueCat

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr
    #3545074, posted on August 12, 2020 at 10:10 am
    Anyone who accepts the “faked, for theatre to scare the hoi polloi” theory also has to accept that the Andrews govt is capable of organising & pulling off such a stunt.

    IF, if, such a stunt was staged, surely the takedown would be a whole lot better choreographed?
    i.e. a quick, simple & unpleasant looking sweep of the legs followed by some furious but harmless thrashing around?

    (Or even better, an actual tasering!)

    I don’t know about the government or VicPol not being clever enough to fake this sort of video – but I do think it’s genuine, and the charge sheet should bear that out. I think the VicPol officer did well under trying circumstances, and he was careful not top body-slam her down on a hard pavement especially given he was being videoed at the time.

    I think MatrixTransformation took the wrong pill – time for him to go back to the fields, jack back in, provide his 1.5V and change his name back to “CopperTop”. Clearly the real world is causing him some issues.

  170. rickw

    In a statement, Victoria Police confirmed the arrest had been referred for internal review.

    She was charged with resisting police and assaulting police and was bailed to appear at court at a later date.

    “She did not receive a fine for failing to wear a face covering because she later told police she had an exemption,” the spokeswoman said.

    “The arrest has been referred to Professional Standards Command for oversight.”

    The throat and neck bruises are going to be problematic for vikpol and vikpol officer.

    BTW: Is everyone still ok for these monkeys to be wandering the streets with 9mm glocks?

    They’re going to end up shooting someone before this shitshow is done.

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