Tuesday Forum: August 11, 2020

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    That sounds awfully like what a Boer terrorist would say.

    Two of those “terrorists” were twelve year old boys. Three of them were the Van Staden family – father and two sons. Eyewitnesses reported that the father was forced to dig all three graves before they were shot.

  2. Knuckle Dragger

    Day 2, First Test. Poms v Uber drivers. Raining.

    Footy. Port Power v Geelong Mummy’s Boys.

    Night ruined.

  3. Leigh Lowe

    KD.
    You do realise that “Impersonating a BASIC programmer” is a jailable offence, right?

  4. JMH

    Rockdoctor
    #3547854, posted on August 14, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    Spot on.

    You would have to tread carefully. I know from personal experience mining personnel entering a rural environment and primary producers/landowners see the open cut and their livelihood rooted! (Dealing with this right now. Our Expl. mob don’t really want to divulge the facts – lest we all panic!)

    Re. the header issue. It’s happening and it will lead to big trouble. No wheat; no bread etc.

    Re the Nats. Agreed. I’ll vote PHON and/or SF&F before the Nats. Complete cucks.

  5. Eyewitnesses

    “Mostly peaceful boers” etc. Enough shit stirring.

    It was wrong, but Kitchener just shirked his responsibility. That’s why Australians were angry.

    “Kitchner dindu nuffin”

    Wow. Who still pushes that nonsense?

  6. egg_

    African black activist lawyer (Nyadol Nyuon) – OK with any future proposed shutdowns
    Simon Howell: Businesses???

    Julia Baird: We’ll have to leave it there, as we always go into a loop.
    Can’t have reality intervening in the narrative?

    Jess Scully: I think what the CON(JOB)VIRUS has shown us is that we shouldn’t have to depend on the Govt to look after us, we can look after each other!
    Strange, that’s National OHS law, numpty!

  7. Re the Nats. Agreed. I’ll vote PHON and/or SF&F before the Nats. Complete cucks.

    Nice!

  8. calli

    Leigh, even my little derg knew this.

  9. egg_

    “Impersonating a BASIC programmer” is a jailable offence

    Sheriff Lowbrow is safe.

  10. feelthebern

    So KD, how long have you been getting sweaty & naked with Karen on a regular basis?
    I’m assuming everything you posted get the replies: phrasing? or oh behave!

  11. cohenite

    rickw
    #3547856, posted on August 14, 2020 at 7:53 pm
    Chicom cello:

    A great movie. Daniel Day-Lewis gave one of the most energetic performances I have seen, outside of a few chop sooky efforts and Thai belt everything that moves efforts. Of course Mohican had a real story. The music was the icing on the cake:

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Mostly peaceful boers” etc. Enough shit stirring.

    It’s usually overlooked that it was Morant’s own men who swore the statements that led to those murders being investigated, and those court’s martial.

  13. egg_

    I know from personal experience mining personnel entering a rural environment and primary producers/landowners see the open cut and their livelihood rooted!

    CSG seems to be dividing rural communities, viz Narrabri.

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘You do realise that “Impersonating a BASIC programmer” is a jailable offence, right?’

    They’ll have to take me down first. I’ll stand and fight, and if necessary fall.

  15. Tom

    Thanks, Bruce of Newk, but I’m dealing with the thieves at Google Images and don’t have the option of dialling up the Herald Sun website, to which I don’t subscribe. But thanks anyway.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3547881, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    Leigh, even my little derg knew this.

    Being a fat man with a cravat bandana and a keen interest in food I couldn’t resist.
    Sorry.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    They’ll have to take me down first. I’ll stand and fight, and if necessary fall.

    GOTO corner.

  18. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘I’m assuming everything you posted get the replies: phrasing? or oh behave!’

    Nup. A Julie Bishop-like death stare.

    She knows she’s a Karen, which is usually the first step to recovery. The problem is, she embraces it.

  19. feelthebern

    Last of the Mohicans was another Michael Mann masterpiece.
    Has never made a bad movie.

  20. calli

    You’re not fat. You are “ big boned”. 🤣

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3547887, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    ‘You do realise that “Impersonating a BASIC programmer” is a jailable offence, right?’

    They’ll have to take me down first. I’ll stand and fight, and if necessary fall.

    Right (eyes narrow).
    You have built a Big Website before?
    Haven’t you?

  22. feelthebern

    George Floyd should have embraced his inner Karen.
    He should have said I want to speak to your manager.
    Problem solved.
    Riots & looting averted.

  23. Northshore Redneck

    Gunner,

    Tictoc has advised against biotech right now. And he knows all, don’t argue with daddy!

    @tictocktic

    He delete his tweets very quickly so get a client with notifications. Then print money. S&p500 daily levels have been 100% in the 4 months I’ve been following him.

  24. calli

    Last of the Mohicans. As it’s Friday night…

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thanks, Bruce of Newk, but I’m dealing with the thieves at Google Images and don’t have the option of dialling up the Herald Sun website, to which I don’t subscribe.

    Tom – Me neither. You don’t need to. I just clicked on the “Best of Mark Knight” on the Opinion page. then right click-open image in a new tab. Then add ?width=1024 to the end of the string in the url line and there you are. (I’m using Brave but all the browsers have an equivalent.)

  26. Northshore Redneck

    Tom,

    Firefox or Chrome + bypasspaywalls will get you in there

  27. egg_

    IIRC Sheriff Lowbrow accused yours truly of bullshitting about flicking channels and catching Safe Harbour on SBS ’cause it had been promo’ed umpteen times or summut.

  28. Fisky

    Velina Tchakarova
    @vtchakarova
    · 20h
    ‘The share of currency trades in #dollars increased to 88.3% in 2019 from 87.6% in 2016, according to the Bank for International Settlements. The proportion of foreign reserves held in dollars has remained steady around 60% over the past decade.’ via Bloomberg #G2 #GlobalSystem

    Oh.

  29. Leigh Lowe

    She knows she’s a Karen, which is usually the first step to recovery. The problem is, she embraces it.

    The nuclear phrase they like to deploy is …
    I have concerns” followed by some vague “world peace” aspiration that has zero to do with the subject at hand.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3547896, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:18 pm

    George Floyd should have embraced his inner Karen.
    He should have said I want to speak to your manager.

    If a UFO lands from the Planet Karen, will they say “Take me to your Manager”?

  31. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘You have built a Big Website before?
    Haven’t you?’

    *eyes narrow*

    Define ‘big’. And ‘website’.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3547911, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    ‘You have built a Big Website before?
    Haven’t you?’

    *eyes narrow*

    Define ‘big’. And ‘website’.

    Depends.
    A website is anything starting with “www”.
    As for size, if you are buying it by the pound, anything costing over about $19k.

  33. ABC 4 corners…some loon says re Corona:

    “DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW PSYCHOPATHIC THIS VIRUS IS!?”

    What a goose.

    Oh yes. Viruses can be bloody psychos. Beneficial bacteria are what, great neighbours we thank for their service and can borrow a cup of sugar from?

    I thought “da science” eschewed anthropomorphism.

  34. Makka

    EU agrees deal with AstraZeneca for 300 million doses of its coronavirus vaccine

  35. Mark A

    Tom
    #3547858, posted on August 14, 2020 at 7:54 pm

    Unfortunately using GI only gives you the uploaded image, if it’s cropped you are out of luck. Copying the image location is no help because it leads back to GI website not to Mark K.

    Sorry.

  36. Boambee John

    Zulu

    From the Oz. The majority – all but three – of those murdered Boers were what the Boers contemptuously called “handsoppers” – men who were obeying British injunctions to surrender themselves to the nearest British Forces, take the oath of allegiance to the British Crown, go home, and take no further part in the fighting. Only one – the Boer Visser -was actually a prisoner.

    Then there was the missionary who witnessed a shooting party (and his black servant), killed on Morant’s orders. Unkles “forgets” to mention them.

  37. Tom

    Thanks, Bruce of Newk. I’ll try that route. But I have zero confidence it will succeed.

  38. Trickler

    That’s a great tune.

    Anything with a slide guitar is good (more so for Duane Allman).

    The best version of Layla.

    The desperation in Clapton’s voice makes the storytelling better.

    Layla – Lead Vocal & Lead Guitar

  39. JC

    Hey Rones

    What’s your position on apartheid?

  40. Farmer Gez

    A new TV show lineup:

    The Karenette. Boy meets bitch.

    My Karen Rules. To many cooks…

    A Karent Affair. You can run but we’ll track you down.

  41. Rockdoctor

    Eggy, can’t talk for NSW but Queensland CSG I know albeit 10 years distant. May have had changes.

    Coal & Hard Rock had different acts to CSG to abide by. CSG came under the Petroleum Act, much less stringent than the others. A mob called QCG came on the scene (There were others but smaller) and followed it to the letter, which meant not much other than they had free and unfettered access. Could do pretty well much what they liked & the landholders had very little recourse.

    The drillers & techniques they used were just as dodgy, heard first hand anecdotes of offsiders mixing up concrete in a wheelbarrow to pump down a production well. Nob & others here could probably better explain as my knowledge is rudimentary but to seal a gas well the concrete has to be of specific mixes, SG’s and set with at certain pressures. When on CSG sites I dealt with a mob called Viking out of Roma specifically tailored for this. Apparently quite a few QCG wells leaked, contaminating water. Santos and other companies apparently started painting their wells different colours to avoid being tainted with QCG.

    Also the community consultation was a farce too. They would send a junior engineer along to town hall meetings who didn’t have a clue but would just BS his way through any consultation. The same staff would then meet with landholders to liaise for drilling priorities only to pay lip service to things like not drilling in paddocks with calving cows etc…

    The compensation was also a joke, when I worked on CSG it was a fraction of what a landholder on a coal tenement was being compensated for the same activities and he had more legislative/regulatory recourse.

    Then it started to get media attention, QCG started to try & clean up it’s act (probably as they wanted to sell out). Then the Greens turned on CSG but the damage was done. Gasland & the likes came out. I suspect that is the root cause most farmers especially in the Liverpool Plains & round the Piliga are suspect of miners now.

  42. A relevant song to today, re Corona, fake news and the great movie, JOKER.

    Motives changing, day to day,
    The fire increases, masks decay.
    I look at the river, white foam floats down,
    The body’s poisoned, gotta sit tight.

    The wait, the wait, the wait, the wait.

    After wakening, silence grows,
    The screams subside, distortion shows.
    Mutant thoughts of bad mouthed news,
    Is just another birth of distorted views.

    The wait, the wait, the wait, the wait.

    The wait, the wait, the wait, the wait.

  43. Tel

    ‘You do realise that “Impersonating a BASIC programmer” is a jailable offence, right?’

    Computing is the last frontier … cowboys run free … impersonate anyone you want.

    You will regularly get support calls from people pretending to be customers; your boss is busy impersonating a manager; coworkers pretending to work; and investors who fake it till they make it.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    If people want to expend energy defending false claims made about battlefield events, I would drop Breaker Morant and get behind the SAS guys being railroaded by the ABC, Russell Offices lezzo lawyers and paid sand-monkey informants.

  45. jupes

    It’s usually overlooked that it was Morant’s own men who swore the statements that led to those murders being investigated, and those court’s martial.

    Sounds like the ‘murders’ being investigated by Brereton and his gang.

    Doesn’t make it true.

  46. Armadillo

    I suspect that is the root cause most farmers especially in the Liverpool Plains & round the Piliga are suspect of miners

    Tony Windsor never had a problem with it. Then again, he got top $ compared to his neighbours.

  47. Zyconoclast

    A mere €10 million for Germany’s colonial-era genocide in Namibia?

    Talks on reparations between the two countries are said to be close to wrapping up. But disturbing quotes and figures are leaking from the Namibian presidential office, says DW’s Claus Stäcker.

    The figure is so shameful and ridiculously low that it in no way resembles a serious offer of reparations. €10 million can in no way be the result of five years of interrupted negotiations following the mass murder of the Herero and Nama people exactly 116 years ago after the battle of Waterberg, which was to become the first genocide of the 20th century.

  48. jupes

    Should Chopper download the CovidSafe app?

    LOL.

    So far taxpayers have spent $62 mil (at least) to trace precisely two infected people via the app.

    It is a sign of the times that this wouldn’t even be in the top ten waste of taxpayer’s money. Maybe not even in the top 100.

  49. Knuckle Dragger

    Good work again, Mr Trickler.

    ‘It either works or it uses Bluetooth, but it can’t be fuckin’ both.’

  50. egg_

    !VW AUDI ECU SW

    !SWITCH ‘NUMPTY’
    IF FRONT WHEELS = NOT TURNING
    THEN SUBROUTINE EPA EMISSIONS
    ELSE GOTO PERFORMANCE MODE

  51. Armadillo

    Should Chopper download the CovidSafe app?

    Strangely enough, Pete Evans is a conservative conspiracy theorist. I saw him interviewed by Dave on the X-Report.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘So far taxpayers have spent $62 mil (at least) to trace precisely two infected people via the app.’

    What?

    Please tell me that was a Chopper line I missed. No way.

  53. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3547936, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    Good work again, Mr Trickler.

    ‘It either works or it uses Bluetooth, but it can’t be fuckin’ both.

    I posted a couple of Chopper links the other day.
    It is a YouTube rabbit hole worth going down
    His Victoria Travel Ban one is a corker.

  54. amortiser

    Liberal support for Labor’s plan might surprise the Liberal Party’s core supporters. In the past, Liberals elsewhere have supported­ the rule of law and associated­ ideas such as equality before the law.

    It shouldn’t surprise them at all. It’s all been done before. State imposition of excises was ruled unconstitutional in 1997:

    On 5 August 1997, the High Court of Australia brought down a combined decision in the cases of Walter Hammond and Associates v the State of NSW and others and Ha and anor v the State of NSW and others. Even though the cases heard related to the imposition of franchise fees on tobacco, the decision has effectively declared all current State business franchise fees to be constitutionally invalid.

    What did Peter Costello do when publicans issued wrist against the Queensland government for return of the illegally collected fees:

    The Commonwealth has also announced its intention to levy a 100 per cent ‘windfall gains’ tax on any successful claims for refunds of monies paid under the now invalidated franchise fee system, with the proceeds being paid back to the States and Territories

    The commonwealth and the states are no better than highwaymen when it comes to respecting the decisions of the courts. Whatever happened to the doctrine of the separation of powers?

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    Hahahahaaa, hahaa.

    ‘I’ve got an almond milk piccolo for Covid?’; and the finale:

    ‘You filthy, filthy, beret-wearing, unicycling, deconstructed brewster ironic shirt-wearing, modern Australian fusion pandemic motherfuckers.’

    He’s on point with the Blend 43 thing as well.

  56. Knuckle Dragger

    Righto. FB dad joke:

    Dad: ‘Nobody in Antarctica has coronavirus.’

    Son: ‘No Dad, don’t….’

    Dad: Because they’re all ice-o-lated.’

  57. MatrixTransform

    I have a joke about coronavirus

    … I expect 99.9% of you wouldn’t get it though

  58. Oh come on

    I wonder how many more anti-Trump ‘tell all’ ghost-written polemics are going to drop between now and November. Kind of reminds you of the sequence of chicks that went public with their dubious sexual harassment/assault allegations against Trump in the runup to Nov 2016.

    It’s almost like there’s a strategy behind this pattern, a discernable MO. Surely not, because this strategy – assuming, just for argument’s sake, that there was a strategy – was such a spectacular loser last time. They wouldn’t try it again. Of course, there is no ‘it’, as they can’t be such moronic one-trick ponies. But let’s say they were…no. Surely not.

  59. Siltstone

    Rockdoctor
    #3547923, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:50 pm. Then it started to get media attention, QCG started to try & clean up it’s act (probably as they wanted to sell out). Then the Greens turned on CSG but the damage was done. Gasland & the likes came out. I suspect that is the root cause most farmers especially in the Liverpool Plains & round the Piliga are suspect of miners now.

    Qld Treasury should be bowing down to the Qld coal and gas industries in these times. They don’t get any income from tourists or international students. From what I understand currently farmers are doing quite well out of gas wells and all but a few are very happy to accept twice property valuations if they have viable coal resources on the land (which are actually owned by the Crown). (I have been involved with dickhead miners and dickhead farmers many times, but the non-dickeheads are in the majority).
    The Liverpool Plains! Well well well. Have you very seen such a bunch of old money types who have turned their own country into a sterile mono-culture yet complain on the “save the environment” ticket?

  60. Leigh Lowe

    KD, his take on the Fuckin’ Festival for Any-Fuckin-Thing was totally on the money.
    The best thing about Kung Flu was that the “Comedy” Festival got canned.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Just put my new elastic bandana thingy on top of my head.
    Mrs L : “You so look like that rock guitarist guy.”
    Me : “Really? Ya think? Which one?”
    Mrs L : “Steve van Zandt”
    .
    (Crushed).

  62. vlad

    Chairman Dan declaring he has “only one fight and that’s against this disease.”

    That’s because he’s suspended parliamentary democracy.

  63. Nick

    Mrs L : “You so look like that shady author guy.”
    Me : “Really? Ya think? Which one?”
    Mrs L : “FitsSimons”
    🙂

  64. OldOzzie

    Torsus Terrastorm off-road bus revealed

    If you need a little more mountain-climbing capability from your van, this mob is keen to sell you just such a package

    Torsus, a Slovakia-based Off-road Bus company, has released the Crafter-based Terrastorm 4X4 bus. It’s adding a specialist off-road edge to the Volkswagen Crafter, and it wants to come to Australia.

    Based on the Volkswagen Crafter 4Motion, the Torsus Terrastorm adds in some special engineering to increase off-road ability. The Terrastorm comes in a few different body styles, and can carry up to 19 people when configured as a bus.

    The Terrastrom join the larger Torsus Praetorian, which is capable of carrying up to 37 people across rough conditions, and is available in a wide variety of different configurations.

    Priced from AUD$93,900, representatives from Torsus tell us that Australia is in their sights for the Terrastorm, seeing our large mining industry and active off-road motorhome scene both having ample opportunity for the brand.

    Like the Crafter, the Terrastorm ha a 2.0-litre turbo diesel engine under the bonnet, making either 103kW/340Nm or 130kW/410Nm. This runs through either a six-speed manual or eight-speed automatic transmission.

    The 4X4 system stays the same as a Volkswagen Crafter 4Motion, using a Haldex-based clutch pack at the rear differential to provide drive to all four wheels. That means the Terrastorm goes without a low-range transfer case.

  65. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Demand to end native title royalties rorts as people left dirt poor

    exclusive
    Paige Taylor
    Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
    @paigeataylor

    Claims of gross mismanagement of native title royalties have prompted calls for a full judicial inquiry into governance of Aboriginal corporations, amid suspicions some powerbrokers may have stolen funds that should have been shared among local communities.

    Several Indigenous corporations and “charitable trusts” — which were ostensibly established to control and regulate the distribution of the royalties that flowed from native title deals ­between mining companies and Indigenous groups — are now the subject of police investigations, under special administration or trying to rebuild after periods of dysfunction.

    Some senior Indigenous figures have told The Weekend Australian that corruption is so rife that a judicial inquiry is needed to flush out those responsible.

    Native title royalties are, ­effectively, a charge for the ­extinguishment of certain traditional cultural rights over land to be mined. The payments were seen two decades ago as a way forward for traditional owners in areas where economic development had been slow or non-existent. However, a lack of proper oversight has allowed strong-arm tactics by some rogue elders to flourish, which in turn has led to allegations of systemic mismanagement.

    There are also concerns the complex structure of the mining royalties system is a bonanza for some non-Indigenous professionals who take a significant portion of the money in consultancy and management fees.

    South Australian elder Mark Koolmatrie is a critic of the “big man, big clan” domination of the nation’s $2bn-a-year native title royalties system. SA is home to 20 of the country’s 220 native title bodies corporate.

  66. egg_

    The compensation was also a joke, when I worked on CSG it was a fraction of what a landholder on a coal tenement was being compensated for the same activities and he had more legislative/regulatory recourse.

    IIRC Santos are paying $3k/P.A. per well at Narrabri on fairly non-productive land.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Nick

    #3547957, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    Mrs L : “You so look like that shady author guy.”
    Me : “Really? Ya think? Which one?”
    Mrs L : “FitsSimons”

    OK, OK.
    No more head cloths.

  68. JC

    LOL

    CNN: “Remember everyone, Hitler once had a peace deal with the Middle East muslims at one time. Is this some sort of sign of Trump being more like Hitler?”

  69. egg_

    Chairman Dan declaring he has “only one fight and that’s against this disease.”

    Did he pick his scabs as a kid?

  70. JC

    LOL

    CNN: “Remember everyone, Hitler once had a peace deal with the Middle East moozies at one time. Is this some sort of sign of Trump being more like Hitler?”

  71. Siltstone

    The compensation was also a joke, when I worked on CSG it was a fraction of what a landholder on a coal tenement was being compensated for the same activities

    The point is it is not “the same activities”. A gas well and an open cut coal mine are quite different things.

  72. JC

    It’s a twitter parody, Ricky. Not real.

  73. amortiser

    Some senior Indigenous figures have told The Weekend Australian that corruption is so rife that a judicial inquiry is needed to flush out those responsible.

    Translation: we haven’t been able to get our hands on the loot.

  74. mh

    4BC News this morning (CH9 News) pitched it as (paraphrasing) ‘This could be seen as a rare win for Trump in the Middle East…’

  75. C.L.

    I note that ABC Online has this afternoon/evening reported that the unfortunate young man in his 20s died “with” coronavirus. Mmm.

    The almost giddy push to get a young fatality every day is truly sick. The Australian, Fairfax and the ABC all led with that today on their main pages.

    The media loves COVID-19 and they love the state-run melodramas tangential to it.

  76. Leigh Lowe

    Siltstone

    #3547967, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    The compensation was also a joke, when I worked on CSG it was a fraction of what a landholder on a coal tenement was being compensated for the same activities

    The point is it is not “the same activities”. A gas well and an open cut coal mine are quite different things.

    I get that but something went wrong along the way.
    And I can’t quite figure out how it ended up with such resolute, bitter opposition for what ends up being a tiny footprint on the land – each well-head no bigger than a good sized double garage.
    Farmers get paid to have those wind tower monstrosities on their land.
    How is that so different?
    Is it genuine worries about ground-water?
    I doubt that is true where there is good surface water supplies.
    Was it just courtesy?
    Miners got used to getting free run of a tenement and just cut loose.
    Whatever the legal rights of access, farmers kind of like a courtesy call before two blokes in fluoro lob onto their land.
    Who knows?
    What should have been a win-win was a total fuck-up.

  77. Oh come on

    Translation: we haven’t been able to get our hands on the loot

    Not completely fair. There are some good people trying to dismantle Aboriginal Inc. The Prices spring to mind.

  78. C.L.
    #3547976, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    I note that ABC Online has this afternoon/evening reported that the unfortunate young man in his 20s died “with” coronavirus. Mmm.

    Dude.

    They just called Corona “psychopathic”.

    Yep. A a virus is like crazed murderer. With a personality, self-awareness, rationality and a basement of corpses and sex slaves.

  79. amortiser

    Why is anyone surprised about the article above about the corruption of native title royalties? This has been going on for at least 20 years now.

    It makes a lot about the $2 billion in royalties but there is no mention of the other $30 billion spent each year by the commonwealth on Aboriginal programs. This has been going on year in, year out for the last 40 odd years. There has been little measurable improvement in conditions in aboriginal communities and the solution offered for this is spending more money.

    Some indigenous leaders are complaining about the bees around the royalties money pot. Imagine the hives buzzing around the $30 billion money pot. The sad thing is there will be no credible inquiry into any of this.

  80. Siltstone

    Some senior Indigenous figures have told The Weekend Australian that corruption is so rife that a judicial inquiry is needed to flush out those responsible.

    Translation: we haven’t been able to get our hands on the loot

    Each year we have reported the post codes with the highest per capita income. But they don’t include mining company payments under indigenous land use agreements. If included, one might be very surprised at the figures.

  81. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #3547976, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    I note that ABC Online has this afternoon/evening reported that the unfortunate young man in his 20s died “with” coronavirus. Mmm

    C.L. this was discussed a little earlier.
    Judge by what was not said.
    If the 20-something guy was a trim, taut, terrific triathlete who died two weeks after punching out a half-marathon, that history would have been front and centre.
    No.
    The narrative is that young people are “vunnerable” to the virus.
    If, as ITK suggests, he might have had profound disabilities and been living in a nursing home, that is never going to be disclosed.
    Privacy.
    With a dash of expediency.

  82. amortiser

    Translation: we haven’t been able to get our hands on the loot

    Not completely fair. There are some good people trying to dismantle Aboriginal Inc. The Prices spring to mind.

    I’ve watched this disaster unfold for decades now. Noel Pearson made a name for himself as a reformer but all he was seeking was his own control of aboriginal policy and the associated purse strings.

    Big budgets have done nothing for aboriginal communities and this has been well demonstrated over nearly 5 decades. The only way such failure can exist is if it government mandated. All that money over so many years has gone to people other than those for whom it is publicly intended.

  83. Tintarella di Luna

    The vile wickedness of Daniel Andrews is truly off the scale of how low can you go. That he plays politics with the frail elderly and the severely disabled is a measure of his profound evil black heart.

  84. Leigh Lowe

    Helloooo Ricky.
    Welcome back.

  85. Siltstone

    Leigh Lowe
    #3547977, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:19 pm
    What should have been a win-win was a total fuck-up.

    Well, NSW and Vic are scared of gas wells and Qld is not because they actually have some. NSW and Vic want gas but dont want to increase in-state supply. Yes, it seems that the Governments and the landholders are not the sharpest knives in the draw.

  86. Oh come on

    This is really cool:

    A Navy flattop just rolled up in Hawaii laden with World War II-era warbirds

    The vessel is the USS Essex, not the lead ship of the legendary but long retired Essex-class carriers, but a Wasp-class amphibious assault carrier bearing a name of great historical significance.

  87. Knuckle Dragger

    What’s in it for the UAE?

    Gold. Tonnes and tonnes of gold. Millions of tonnes.

    Mined by children in tunnels.

  88. C.L.

    Harry and Meg’s new house (California) speaks to their wish for a simpler, more ethical life.

    The Australian reports that the property includes a “meditation hut.”

  89. Leigh Lowe

    I agree Siltstone.
    The ban in Victoria is crazy and totally aimed at Brunswick voters.
    I guess my point was about how the animosity built up between farmers and miners.
    PS … I am pretty sceptical about water contamination due to fracking if well sealing procedures are followed.

  90. C.L.

    That B-25 bomber is one beautiful, bad-ass plane.

  91. William the Conjuror

    First Teddy Sheean’s VC, now ‘justice’ for Breaker Morant

    Morant was not even an Australian (let alone a Tasmanian), so no electorates here are in any danger from the agitation of his relatives. Maybe they could petition Boris Johnson.

    Who’s next? Monash again?

  92. Siltstone

    PS … I am pretty sceptical about water contamination due to fracking if well sealing procedures are followed.
    Regarding coal seam gas, farmers bores draw from aquifers above (mainly) the seam, or below, but seldom from the coal seam itself as they tend to have higher dissolved salts. Seal the gass well, spud alternate stock supplies, not a lot of trouble and no longer controversial in Qld.

  93. mh

    CSPAN
    @cspan
    President Trump on claims that :Kamala Harris isn’t eligible to run for Vice President because she’s an anchor baby: “I heard it today that she doesn’t meet the requirements…I have no idea if that’s right. I would have assumed the Democrats would have checked that out.

    https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1294035935907241984?s=20

  94. Oh come on

    That B-25 is gorgeous.

    I still say the most beautiful aircraft ever produced is the Avro Vulcan. The Su-27 is sexy as hell, too.

  95. Lazlo

    What is in it for the UAE?

    Trade, dear boy. Which makes the world go round and creates wealth. The UAE can no longer survive as an oil state and Gold Coast like real estate bubble. UAE capital and Israeli innovation will create a powerhouse.

  96. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Don’t really understand.’

    From the tunnels under the Bekaa Valley. The ones they started in 1278. The industry the Templars grew rich from.

    I can see I’m going to have to spell this out Ricky. Didn’t think I’d have to.

  97. Makka

    UAE capital and Israeli innovation will create a powerhouse.

    If Bahrain and Oman jump on board, it also isolates Qatar. Makes getting around the Gulf that much easier for Mossad as well.

  98. Leigh Lowe

    mh

    #3547975, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    4BC News this morning (CH9 News) pitched it as (paraphrasing) ‘This could be seen as a rare win for Trump in the Middle East…’

    Or, to summarise Trump’s involvement in the ME …
    1. He had a spat with Assad and did some remote landscaping on a Syrian airfield. No-one died.
    2. Trump told the Iranians not to fuck with the US. They haven’t.
    3. His reluctance to wade into ME “situations” hasn’t really pissed off anyone much. Except John Bolton.
    4. He has strenuously defended the US-Israel relationship. The world didn’t tilt on it’s axis.
    .
    A challenge.
    Find a president since Gerald Ford who has expended less US blood and treasure in the Middle East than The Don.

  99. C.L.

    For me, OCO, the SR-71 can never be topped.

  100. Lazlo

    Mossad is quite capable of ‘getting around’ wherever it wants in the Middle East.

  101. Oh come on

    Are you shitting me? The Israeli-UAE alliance is primarily to counter Iran. Other rich Sunni Arab states will officially get on board soon (many are already unofficially on board). This, in spite of the totally and completely unacceptable times infinity Trump plan for a Two State Solution. The Israeli-UAE alliance is an unmistakable indication that the Palestinians have been relegated by their former backers to bit-player status in the ME.

  102. Lazlo

    You mean that brown woman Ricky? Or is she black? Joe has confused me.

  103. Lazlo

    Also quite true OCO. But maybe it can pull the Middle East into the 21st Century as a peaceful trading bloc. Would that be bad?

  104. JC

    There’s an SR 71 on the USS Intrepid, now a museum on the Hudson. The thing that bothered me about the plane was the flimsiness of the outer skin. You don’t have to push your fingers too hard to cause indentation.

    The engines were freaking enormous. It was basically something as light as balsa wood propelled by two giant engines.

  105. Oh come on

    the SR-71 can never be topped.

    Mmmm. There is something about that plane. Maybe because it’s superlative in so many respects.

  106. Knuckle Dragger

    Ricky, just now:

    ‘As the only Sloane Ranger of colour, I may be able to get some of the gossip on whatever it is that happened to that gold. I should suspect it became a multiple collatoralised asset of a family of rectitude, and then disappeared up a Venetian bankers rectum.’

    In the NT there’s a competition where 100 barramundi are released into various waterways with a green tag, all numbered. If you catch one you win $10K from the NT gummint. There’s one swimming around somewhere with a red tag, and that’s worth $1,000,000.

    Barra usually fight like bejesus. The Ricky Barra went on the hook easily though. Straight into the tank.

    Farter time.

  107. Lazlo

    I can’t stand her politics Ricky, but I don’t take it personally. That would be ‘taking offence’. There are so many things I find offensive about the left that, if unlawful, it would fill a penal colony. Come to think of it, there is a perfectly good moon up there just waiting for a first fleet of leftists.

  108. Oh come on

    The thing that bothered me about the plane was the flimsiness of the outer skin. You don’t have to push your fingers too hard to cause indentation.

    The kinds of missions exotic birds like this are tasked with means they have all kinds of design and maintenance requirements. The B-2 Spirit needs climate-controlled and sealed hangars, for instance.

  109. Pedro the Loafer

    Speaking of good looking aircraft:

    The F-104 Starfighter

  110. C.L.

    They don’t come any more elegant than the Constellation.

    The Blackbird does indeed have a ridiculously flimsy fuselage.
    It was basically a Coke can with two rockets on it. How they landed those Wile E. Coyote generation of aircraft in the 50s and 60s dead stick is beyond me. Right Stuff = crazy.

  111. JC

    I wasn’t disappointed, OCO. I was just shocked at how light the skin was especially considering the speed those things could go.. The inside was fitted out with one of those old seats you’d see in a suped up 6os sports car.

    I can’t recall where they were but I remember camera lenses. Lots of them.

  112. Lazlo

    Half an hour or so to VJ Day. The PC crowd have tried relentlessly to rename it VP (Victory in the Pacific) day for years. But even Joanna Lumley in the Spectator this week calls it VJ Day.

  113. jupes

    There’s an SR 71 on the USS Intrepid, now a museum on the Hudson. The thing that bothered me about the plane was the flimsiness of the outer skin. You don’t have to push your fingers too hard to cause indentation.

    Pedant alert! Actually JC it’s a Lockheed A-12 the predecessor to the SR 71.

    My favourite plane on the USS Intrepid is the Grumman Avenger if for no other reason than it was the first model plane I ever had as a boy. Loved seeing it for real a couple of years ago.

  114. JC

    Another pic of the Constellation. Yes, there is a God.

    CL, exactly right. The skin was flimsy like a coke can. The thing was though that the indentation didn’t remain as it appeared to fling back. Obscure crap like this interests me sometimes. 🙂

    American engineering was incredible in those days. Just amazing. Hard to believe it went from that to the present day events.

  115. Lazlo

    In these ridiculously, inverted times Ricky, my choice would have been Martin Luther King Jr. But he is unavailable because he smiled at an idiot activist at his own memorial.

  116. JC

    Those old American engineers would certainly marvel at our gadgets and the skill in putting together software that created Facebook, Google Search and even Twitter, but they’d laugh themselves silly at what they’re being used for.

  117. Megan

    Just Harry will really need that meditation hut at Middle Finger Mansions. Will get him out of cleaning the 16 bathrooms. Why aren’t they afraid of one of them leaking?

  118. Lazlo

    Facebook and twitter are trivial technologies JC, they are web pages, with no great technological advances.

    Google search however was revolutionary.

  119. Lazlo

    The meds are in the top draw Ricky. You should take the one labelled Friday PM.

  120. areff

    DeHavilland Dragon Rapide, the prettiest aircraft ever built (IMHO)

  121. Makka

    The Israeli-UAE alliance is an unmistakable indication that the Palestinians have been relegated by their former backers to bit-player status in the ME.

    The Palis have been minor league for decades in the Arab world. More of a weight around Arab nation’s necks. Troublemakers funded by Iran.

    Qatar is the only real friend Iran has among the Gulf Arabs but that relationship is strained. Much more so now if all Qatar’s Gulf neighbors sign up with Jerusalum. The US is cutting away Iran’s friends and Qatar is being pulled into line.

  122. Lazlo

    Mosquito light bomber areff, made from balsa wood.

  123. Leigh Lowe

    Aeroplanes.
    A bit of polished aluminum 1930s taildragger is what I’d spend my cash on.
    If I had any.
    Which I don’t.

  124. Lazlo

    Does anyone here remember making planes out of balsa wood?

  125. Makka

    Design perfection with twin Merlins. Deadly and elegant;

  126. JC

    Does anyone here remember making planes out of balsa wood?

    You could buy the kit, then fly them. They would last long though.

  127. JC

    Here, buy a kit for under 10 bucks.

  128. Lazlo

    Geez, the Brits made f**king great planes, the Mosquito, the Spitfire, the Lancaster. I am so proud of my heritage, Magyar, that is.

  129. areff

    Built many little planes out of balsa, including a big one, a Nomad glider with a three-foot wingspan. Took me about three months cutting ribs etc out of sheet balsa from Hearn’s Hobbies and doping the fabric.

    Took it to the park off Francis Street, launched with a hefty throw — and it flew and flew and flew — straight into the chimney on the Baby Health Centre on Severn Street.

    I would have been 12 and, from that moment on, came to the unshakeable conclusion that life isn’t fair and mostly sucks big time.

  130. Lazlo

    Prior to plastics (Airfix) you would buy a balsa wood kit to make the frame, cover it with some sort of grease-proof paper and then paint it with some browny, sticky stuff, whose name I am trying to remember, not creosote, but something like that. Can anyone help?

  131. Lazlo

    Yes! Doping it, with what?

  132. Leigh Lowe

    areff

    #3548071, posted on August 15, 2020 at 12:29 am

    Built many little planes out of balsa, including a big one, a Nomad glider with a three-foot wingspan. Took me about three months cutting ribs etc out of sheet balsa from Hearn’s Hobbies and doping the fabric.

    Took it to the park off Francis Street, launched with a hefty throw — and it flew and flew and flew — straight into the chimney on the Baby Health Centre on Severn Street.

    I would have been 12 and, from that moment on, came to the unshakeable conclusion that life isn’t fair and mostly sucks big time.

    Was that a GAF Nomad?
    If so, lucky it didn’t take out a Primary School full of cripples.
    Or, as we say in these more enlightened times, retards.

  133. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #3548066, posted on August 15, 2020 at 12:24 am

    Here, buy a kit for under 10 bucks.

    Some of those little kits are great.
    You can fold elevators and ailerons for all different types of prangs.

  134. Lazlo

    Cutting the pieces out of a sheet of balsa was quite satisfying but.

  135. Rex Anger

    @ Makka-

    The only thing better than a Merlin, is 2 or 4 Merlins!

    Or 13 or 14 of them (Plus a few Griffons) in close formation

  136. NoFixedAddress

    areff
    #3548071, posted on August 15, 2020 at 12:29 am
    ….
    I would have been 12 and, from that moment on, came to the unshakeable conclusion that life isn’t fair and mostly sucks big time.

    so that’s why you became a reporter.

  137. Makka

    I posted this a few days ago, just awesome footage;

  138. Rex Anger

    …And just scrolled up to see I’ve linked the same video as RickW poster earlier

    Oh dear.

    Back to my usual usual neck of the woods, I think…

    (The whistling is almost all Anger. What can I say? I do love tugging my lever… 😛 )

  139. Rex Anger

    @ Egg-

    All the V-bombers are such futuristic-looking birds, yet underneath their DNA is near-identical to the WW2-era prop aircraft like the Halifax and Lancaster they replaced.

    Built like brick outhouses, with systems actuated by chain drives, gears, basic (albeit complicated) hydraulics and electrics… No wonder they lasted so long!

  140. Lazlo

    Pre electronics Rex. The transistor changed it all.

  141. Rex Anger

    Pre electronics Rex. The transistor changed it all.

    Truly a world-changing piece of kit, that…

  142. sfw

    Thanks cohenite, appreciated.

    Re ‘front line workers’, I hate that expression, one of the reasons I left the MFB was HR and the senior officers becoming ever more politically correct. Always looking for ways to be trendy, training became non existent, we became ‘first responders’ and they became desperate to get as much diversity as possible. The actual job became secondary, we had fit young women who could run a marathon but couldn’t drag a dog out of a fire, much less a human and the focus on OHS is out of control. I preferred it when half the men were drunk and brave and did what they had to do and then went home.

  143. Rockdoctor

    Siltstone, always wondered what the go was in the Liverpool Plains. Never drilled up there but the Greens inspired lock the gate placards so far from anywhere major cities on established farms always puzzled me. Narribri I understood more as the Piliga from my drives along the 100km stretch of the Newell Hwy has been getting an influx of arty type tree changers normally opposed to mining for a while now.

    I have only ever really seen the compensation figures on exploration sites. The open cut mines I have done last drop & Coal Quality jobs on have all been owned by the mine. Guess the act has caught up, bound to happen with all the bad press the industry was getting.

    LOL dickhead landholders, a few round Moranbah, Glenden and Moura who whinge & obstruct but continue to buy land right next to a mine boundary. The further away you get from areas like this usually the better they are. The latest scam I came across before leaving Queensland was that all the owners have now got on is this EU Organic accreditation scheme. Seems to be ironic every farm in a mining area now has this on as what Egg describes as pretty ordinary country.

  144. Fisky

    Another great win for China “engagement” supporters! The World Bank hands $50 million loan to Xinjiang’s “vocational schools”, where students learn how to be raped, tortured and forcibly sterilised.

    Lawmakers demand answers from World Bank on Xinjiang loan

    “We continue to have serious concerns about the World Bank’s continued disbursement of a loan to the [Xinjiang] Department of Education after it became aware of the mass internment of Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other Muslims in the region,” wrote McGovern and Rubio.

    Axios reported in December 2019 that World Bank partner schools in Xinjiang had requested tens of thousands of dollars to fund advanced surveillance equipment — including facial recognition systems — that connected directly to local public security bureaus.

    ROFL, sounds like just the normal kinds of equipment a “vocational” school would need to maintain order and discipline.

  145. Fisky

    Another great win for China “engagement” supporters! The World Bank hands $50 million loan to Xinjiang’s “vocational schools”, where students learn how to be raped, tortured and forcibly sterilised.

    Lawmakers demand answers from World Bank on Xinjiang loan

    “We continue to have serious concerns about the World Bank’s continued disbursement of a loan to the [Xinjiang] Department of Education after it became aware of the mass internment of Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and other Moozlims in the region,” wrote McGovern and Rubio.

    Axios reported in December 2019 that World Bank partner schools in Xinjiang had requested tens of thousands of dollars to fund advanced surveillance equipment — including facial recognition systems — that connected directly to local public security bureaus.

    ROFL, sounds like just the normal kinds of equipment a “vocational” school would need to maintain order and discipline.

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