Tuesday Forum: August 11, 2020

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  1. Boambee John

    Leigh Lowe
    #3547172, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:57 am
    BJ.
    Say it ain’t so.
    Spud senior didn’t volunteer to put Churchill’s Britain ahead of the defence of Curtin’s Australia?
    That would be a devastating revelation.

    An uncle and two men I worked with all volunteered for the Empire Air Training Scheme in late 1942, well after Numbers’ father volunteered for that scheme.

    All passed the medical and aircrew training, all flew operationally in Bomber Command, starting their operational service in mid to late 1944. If Numbers’ father had been accepted and passed, he would probably have followed a similar path.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    Trump announces historic peace deal between UAE and Israel. I’m sure this is already headlines at their ABC

    Surely!

    What If Middle East Peace Happened and the Media Ignored It (13 Aug)

    With a pillow…

  3. Struth

    Well Farmer Gez, we can only hope the country Victorians aren’t as docile as the townies.

  4. Roger

    States are set up under the Australian Constitution and have been since 1901.

    Are you posting from 1855?

    And yet here was are in 2020 with the states imposing border restrictions.

    How can that be if only the Commonwealth is sovereign?

    It’s because sovereignty is shared between the Commonwealth and the states in Australia, each exercising it in their own spheres. That’s why the states retain their parliaments and governors appointed by the monarch (not the governor-general)…and their borders!

    I know, it’s complex.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3547170, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:56 am

    Would you like to have a look at my service record so you can trawl through it to find “indications of avoidance”?

    So you can further attempt to dox another Cat?

    Ooooh.
    We’re not allowed to say that.
    But every so often we do.
    Just to let new arrivals know that sharing personal details with vindictive types like Numbers is fraught with danger.

  6. calli

    Also from Oriel:

    The media plays a significant role in disseminating accurate ­information about the pandemic, but research suggests it is losing the battle on social media. A Pew report showed people who relied on social media for news were less knowledgeable and less engaged than those who relied on other news platforms. The social media group scored lower on knowledge about politics and the economy, and they were more exposed to COVID-19 conspiracy theories. The research did not demonstrate whether the group was more likely to believe in conspiracies, but their knowledge about the pandemic was relatively poor.

    And here Oriel makes her big, stupid assumption. It’s two pronged.

    – All “social media” is an homogenised lump of disinformation.
    – The MSM disseminates accurate information

    I understand why a journalist in the dying MSM would like to pump up her platform’s credentials, but it just doesn’t work any more. Social media is just a little bit broader than TikTok, Insta, Spacechook and Youtube.

  7. stackja

    Australia in the War of 1939–1945. Series 1 – Army
    Volume VII – The Final Campaigns (1st edition, 1963)
    Chapter 10 – Operations On New Britain

    On New Britain as in other forward areas the arrival of news that negotiations for a Japanese surrender were in progress was a signal for great revelry : to describe it is to describe what happened in many other places.
    In the Jacquinot Bay area the darkness was broken by coloured flares fired from ships in port ; machine-guns rattled ; tracers streaked up into the heavens . There was singing and shouting and long blasts from motor horns . . . . In the hospital wards sisters and orderlies sang with the patients . By now several fires were visible as merry-makers ignited some disused buildings in old camp sites . This joyous scene continued until almost morning .

    On 15th August when the news arrived that the war was over it was received quietly . Native workers and troops were assembled and told the news—”Japan man ‘e cry enough“—and native runners were sent into the hills to spread the news among the villages.

    Next day Gracie Fields and a party of other entertainers arrived at Jacquinot Bay from Bougainville and in the evening performed before 10,000 troops.
    Highlight of the night . . . was a half hour’s non-stop entertainment by “Gracie “who at the conclusion of the concert said: “I hope it won’t be long before you all pack oop and go H .T.M.—home to Moom.” Ten thousand troops had exactly identical hopes and the thunderous cheering showed this in no uncertain manner .

  8. Oh come on

    The unironic headline of a Grauniad op-ed:

    I used to be critical of Kamala Harris. Now I am going to defend her at every turn

    Subtract ‘Kamala Harris’ and insert literally any name you like and it would remain true.

    (no link because who cares)

  9. Farmer Gez

    Struth
    #3547183, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:12 am
    Well Farmer Gez, we can only hope the country Victorians aren’t as docile as the townies.

    If I run across a Chairman Dan apologist I tear strips off them. I’ve suspended the niceties of polite conversation when it comes to a megalomaniac dictator like Andrews.

  10. Struth

    And yet here was are in 2020 with the states imposing border restrictions.

    How can that be if only the Commonwealth is sovereign?

    Because they are doing it unconstitutionally, in other words unlawfully and the federal Government is as well.
    The states are not separate sovereign nations you git.
    They exist only under the commonwealth constitution.
    It’s where they are validated, and States can be taken back by the commonwealth and also must remain doing what they are allowed to do by Law, under the constitution.

    You come on here raving on like they are separate sovereign countries, that can do what they like.
    FMD.

  11. feelthebern

    All passed the medical and aircrew training, all flew operationally in Bomber Command, starting their operational service in mid to late 1944.

    They are heroes.
    Every single one of them.

    If Numbers’ father had been accepted and passed, he would probably have followed a similar path.

    But he didn’t.
    So he wasn’t.
    Which is fine.

  12. mh

    Paywalled at UK Tele, but you get the idea

    Sweden’s success shows the true cost of our arrogant, failed establishment
    Shocking incompetence has unnecessarily wiped billions of pounds from the UK economy

    So now we know: Sweden got it largely right, and the British establishment catastrophically wrong. Anders Tegnell, Stockholm’s epidemiologist-king, has pulled off a remarkable triple whammy: far fewer deaths per capita than Britain, a maintenance of basic freedoms and opportunities, including schooling, and, most strikingly, a recession less than half as severe as our own….

  13. Farmer Gez

    372 and 14 dead in East Germany today.

    ‘Test and arrest’ will free you.

  14. Warwick

    Speaking of RAAF in PNG during WW2.I had always heard that my uncle, married to my Dad’s sister, was in the army during WW2 and never left Australia. I heard growing up his wartime injuries consisted of falling off the back of a truck near Darwin late in the war. At his funeral a few years back, the RSL representative read his service history. Enlisted in the RAAF from near Cairns. He was a mechanic by trade, and became one in the airforce. Sent to PNG, he served in a aircraft retrieval unit. They went and salvaged aircraft that had crashed of useful parts, and also retrieved any crew that had perished and bought them back for proper burial- this involved weeks searching the jungle, including in areas the Japanese were active. His health issues, which never stopped him working in his small business until his 70s, were the result of being injured in a truck crash, and also sickened by tropical disease, in PNG. Challenging service I would imagine.

  15. feelthebern

    Of all the nights to be long oil.
    The Israel UAE deal has come out of the blue.
    Looks like Trump has got some trusted, non-leaky types on that deal.
    Same with Israel.
    Same with the UAE.
    Deep state would be hating this.

  16. feelthebern

    mh, Bethany McLean tweeted that story too.
    If you are reading on your phone, the paywall isn’t there.
    Or at least it wasn’t when I read earlier today.

  17. 132andBush

    If I run across a Chairman Dan apologist I tear strips off them. I’ve suspended the niceties of polite conversation when it comes to a megalomaniac dictator like Andrews.

    Ain’t that the truth!

  18. calli

    Challenging service I would imagine.

    Indeed. I wish he could have found my uncle and his crew. Perhaps he tried.

    Knowing how few degrees of separation there are in this world, I wouldn’t be at all surprised.

  19. Roger

    Here’s some reading for you, Struth.

    It’s from on eof Australia’s leading constitutional lawyers.

    Get back to me when you’ve digested it.

  20. Struth

    Jacinda will not let you leave the concentration camp if you refuse to take a test.
    You stay in for another two weeks.

    Now you nervous nellies, read the actual words I am saying here.
    Not what you think I’m saying.

    This will not end without bloodshed.

  21. 132andBush

    Gez,
    I need to hire an 18t – 22t chaser bin.
    Do you know of any?

  22. Boambee John

    bern

    If Numbers’ father had been accepted and passed, he would probably have followed a similar path.

    But he didn’t.
    So he wasn’t.
    Which is fine.

    There is no reason to reflect adversely on Numbers’ father’s war sefvice.

    There is reason to reflect adversely on Numbers less than accurate account of it.

  23. Shy Ted

    Just read that story over at Michael Smith about the coroner instructing doctors to “assume” a Covid death. Gotta keep those numbers up. Is there any little branch of gummint anywhere that isn’t in on it?

  24. Struth

    The Commonwealth had no say or involvement in matters such as the appointment or removal of State governors, the reservation of State Bills or the disallowance of state laws.

    What a load of crap.
    I got to this and a bit further, just to humour you Roger, but typically and expected I found a lot of lawyer dribble and incased in a mountain of dribble the hidden lies such as above, they sneak in hoping you’ll be asleep by the time you get to it.

    So tell me, if you will, about the Cardinal Pell outcome?

  25. Mater

    Couple of my friends just lost their jobs, having worked full time up until now.
    Do they blame Chairman Dan?
    No way!
    T’is their former employer who is to blame for their new found free time.
    It’s a topsy turvy world we live in, with topsy turvy people in it…especially rusted-on Labor supporters.

    P.S. I’ve also given up my polite streak when it comes to this issue. They both got a serve!

  26. Farmer Gez

    132andBush
    #3547202, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:23 am
    Gez,
    I need to hire an 18t – 22t chaser bin.
    Do you know of any?

    Hold on.
    I’ll make a few calls.

  27. Top Ender

    Victoria cases up again.

    New Zealand too.

    The most annoying thing about our so-called political leaders is they won’t say what is the new norm.

    Do we open up everything in a state or a mini-country like NZ, as before, when it gets to 20 cases a day?

    Or 5?

    Or none?

    And then when it hits again do we do lockdown for two weeks?

    And is this it forever?

  28. Roger

    What a load of crap.

    The verdict of a fine legal mind.

    Stick to your hysterical diatribes.

  29. mc

    Farmer Gez

    Kids were telling me of people wanting to put Bendigo in stage 4 last night. From what I understand, about half the cases are from the one chicken shed.

  30. Struth

    I’ve found the word Coronaphobics to be good on facebook.
    It really riles them up.

  31. Roger

    And is this it forever?

    Absent a vaccine, sooner or later we’ll have to go the Swedish route. It’s the only realistic option.

  32. Struth

    No, you tell me about the Cardinal Pell case, shitfa brains.

  33. MemoryFault

    Good morning Struth.

    Why do you waste your time, mate? Most people here still think it is all down to bungling and incompetence, and that Morrison is somehow at loggerheads with the State Premiers. In light of all that has happened, and continues to happen, how bloody naive can you get?

    Did you watch the two videos posted by Steve Trickler last night? If you didn’t watch the first one because you have to log in to the Oxford University website, let me know and I’ll email it to you. It’s all there – a two minute advert of the World Economic Forum (WEF) proudly presenting their plans for World Governance via what they term a “Strategic Intelligence” (which they control, naturally). Anyway, let me know if you want it, and I’ll send it off.

    I’ve emailed Max, the guy who did the second video, to see if I can post it at my websites, with accreditation. I’d love to know who did the first ten minutes of his video, about the WEF advert.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #3547190, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:16 am

    Struth
    #3547183, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:12 am
    Well Farmer Gez, we can only hope the country Victorians aren’t as docile as the townies.

    That is why they singled out Bendigo.
    Notoriously the wimpy, beta, girly-man capital of rural Victoria.
    Mater will agree, I’m sure.

  35. Struth

    Tell me what 109 means to you, Roger.
    It hasn’t been changed by referendum, so can you fucking read?

  36. Struth

    You live there, don’t you Frank?

  37. Mater

    That is why they singled out Bendigo.
    Notoriously the wimpy, beta, girly-man capital of rural Victoria.
    Mater will agree, I’m sure.

    Labor heartland. The Red Centre, if you like.

  38. 132andBush

    That is why they singled out Bendigo.
    Notoriously the wimpy, beta, girly-man capital of rural Victoria.
    Mater will agree, I’m sure.

    *Laughs*

  39. Leigh Lowe

    Good morning Faulty!!
    Where have you been?
    I need to know.

  40. Struth

    Well, I’m bored MV.

    Socialism has sat me on my arse.

    I’ll go back and check it out now.
    I didn’t scroll back this morning.

  41. Makka

    Absent a vaccine, sooner or later we’ll have to go the Swedish route. It’s the only realistic option.

    Did the Swedish route involve te state paying people not to be sick and stay at home? Because that is what is keeping Dan’s poll numbers up, which the only thing that matters.

  42. Farmer Gez

    Bush, try this bloke.

    Unifarmingservices Kerang.
    0418505414.
    He’s sells J&M bins and does hire. A neighbour had one last harvest and bought it this year. We own one as well, not a bad bin.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    You live there, don’t you Frank?

    Yep.
    Second house down from the old pub.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    This morning’s key question:-
    “Where’s ya bin?”

  45. mc

    That is why they singled out Bendigo.
    Notoriously the wimpy, beta, girly-man capital of rural Victoria.
    Mater will agree, I’m sure.

    Technically correct but it is skewed by its proximity to Castlemaine

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Mater

    #3547219, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:36 am

    That is why they singled out Bendigo.
    Notoriously the wimpy, beta, girly-man capital of rural Victoria.
    Mater will agree, I’m sure.

    Labor heartland. The Red Centre, if you like.

    Geelong is the big sister.
    Bendigo second.
    Ballarat makes up the podium.
    Full of entitled sooks always bleating for Gummint hand outs.
    It is like someone snapped off three pieces of Tassie and pitched them over Bass Strait.

  47. MemoryFault

    Where have you been?

    I’ve been at home doing exactly what I said I was going to do. I even added that I wouldn’t be around for a few days while I did it. I’ve also been finishing up my last work contract, and doing some stuff with Cardimona. Plus some online shopping for stuff for my upcoming holiday in Innisfail.

    What have you been doing, apart from trying to get this blog closed down?

  48. mc

    It is like someone snapped off three pieces of Tassie and pitched them over Bass Strait.

    Ouch

  49. Leigh Lowe

    mc

    #3547234, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:45 am

    That is why they singled out Bendigo.
    Notoriously the wimpy, beta, girly-man capital of rural Victoria.
    Mater will agree, I’m sure.

    Technically correct but it is skewed by its proximity to Castlemaine

    Ha, ha, yes.
    Both Bendigo and Ballarat have their gay satellites.
    Castlemaine and Daylesford.
    One for the girls and one for the boys.

  50. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    ‘Vote for me, I’ll force everyone to wear face nappies.’ 👍🏻

    What a laughable ol’ geriatric imbecile.

  51. Leigh Lowe

    What have you been doing, apart from trying to get this blog closed down?

    Close it down?
    Perish the thought.
    The object is to riot, loot, terrorise and jaywalk through it, then buy it for a song and turn it into a gay bar.
    Obviously.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    What a laughable ol’ geriatric imbecile.

    Who?
    Faulty?

  53. Roger

    Did the Swedish route involve te state paying people not to be sick and stay at home? Because that is what is keeping Dan’s poll numbers up, which the only thing that matters.

    He might not be so popular when the cost becomes evident – if he’s even in office by that point.

    See the graph on the drop in UK GDP due to their lockdown.

    Unprecedented.

  54. MemoryFault

    The object is to riot, loot, terrorise and jaywalk through it, then buy it for a song and turn it into a gay bar.

    Fair enough – should suit you admirably.

  55. Farmer Gez

    Geelong is the big sister.
    Bendigo second.
    Ballarat makes up the podium.

    All government towns. Voting accordingly with Labor.

  56. 132andBush

    Thanks Gez.
    I work for relos of his actually.

  57. OldOzzie

    Why Biden blew it

    THE EDITORIAL BOARD
    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Joe Biden took his time selecting a running mate, which seemed prudent. But he came up with Sen. Kamala Harris of California, which seems anticlimactic. And, worse than that, weak.

    Let’s set aside what sort of vice president and president Ms. Harris might make — the campaign will reveal the best and worst of her and voters will decide for themselves.

    What does it say about Mr. Biden as a leader?

    It does not say much, or at least much that is good.

    Mr. Biden started the vice presidential selection process by putting himself in a box. He pandered. He said he would pick a woman.

    He did not say: I will pick the most-qualified person I can find. And if that person is a woman too, that’s great.

    Neither Barack Obama nor Bernie Sanders put himself in the box Mr. Biden chose.

    Then, because he let the process drift, and let others define his choice, he found himself in another, smaller box: It has to be an African American woman.

    Who said so?

    That’s the question a real leader would have asked.

    It’s the question Joe Biden did not ask.

    Instead he went along — letting others set the agenda for his own campaign.

    When the search, based on dubious and rather insulting (to women and Blacks) primary qualifications, came up with five or six underwhelming candidates, Mr. Biden did not do what a good executive would do — start over.

    Mr. Biden should have said to his staff and advisers: None of these people are good enough. Back to the drawing board!

  58. Tom

    From Bruce of Newk’s 9.11am link:

    To a certain generation of j-school grads, that is what journalism is. Journalism is digging into Trump’s hotel development plans in Outer Mongolia. Or it’s covering any latest development through the usual, “Orangeman bad” lens.

    When major stories actually happen, the media can’t cover them any other way. That’s why the story of the pandemic quickly became, “Trump and GOP govs are awful”.

    That’s what happens when you have a propaganda media that’s increasingly incapable of covering the news anymore.

    No-one’s telling the zombies going through J-school that, if you think the public (i.e. you audience) is stupid and your job as a journalist is to promote political causes they won’t vote for (because they’re too stupid), your audience will eventually desert you.

    The news media (except for the bits financed by the government and the sugar daddies financing vanity projects like the Guardian and the Washington Post) is financed by people trying to find out what’s actually going on.

    If you aren’t committed to providing the service they’re paying for — via the professional code of ethics, which is increasingly ignored by unscrupulous J-school grads — there won’t be a job for you, unless you retreat to the media just telling its audience what it wants to hear.

  59. Old School Conservative

    Struth
    #3547201, posted on August 14, 2020 at 9:22 am
    Jacinda will not let you leave the concentration camp if you refuse to take a test.
    This will not end without bloodshed.

    Starting with the 40,000 rugby fans who bought tickets for the last game of the Super Rugby season, this Sunday.
    Auckland Blues vs Christchurch Crusaders at Eden Park, Auckland. Biggest game of the year and a sell-out.
    Jacinda may ban spectators or cancel the game.
    Bust the economy, Pfttt.
    Send people broke, Pfttt.
    Cause untold misery in the country, Pfttt.
    Interfere with Rugby? – She’s gone.

  60. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Who?

    Geriatric Joe “the Thing” Biden. As pointed out above by Annie (and subsequently confirmed by chipple jay nooze this morning) the senile embarrassing ol’ idiot has vowed to make face nappies mandatory across the US if he wins the presidency.

    Pure political genius. Iamashiteater is no doubt in awe.

  61. P

    The Remnant Newspaper
    Thursday, August 13, 2020
    MELBOURNE LOCKDOWN: The Police State Down Under
    Written by Kathy Clubb | Australian Correspondent

    A small excerpt:

    The All-Powerful State

    Back in the days when Victoria was a democracy, conservatives would ask with surprise how Daniel Andrews and his cabal of Socialists could have gained power. The optimistic among them had been hoping that Andrews’ latest debacles – following on his from his proven corrupt election tactics, his signing of a secret deal with the Chinese, his promotion of sexualised school curricula and his bringing euthanasia and abortion to the state – might finally be enough to see his reign ended at the next state election.

    But the polls are saying otherwise. This current poll from the Herald Sun, shown below, and with a sampling of more than 180,000 people, suggests that Andrews and his hard lockdown are more popular than ever.

    In his excellent piece on Victoria’s latest restrictions, Professor Augusto Zimmerman quotes former Australian Prime Minister, Sir Robert Menzies, as saying: “When we have the all-powerful state, the people will then be the servants of that state and the minds of those people will be servile minds, because there will only be only one master – the state, inhuman but all-powerful!”

    BTW, THE GREAT RESET has now reached one and a half million views.

  62. Makka

    He might not be so popular when the cost becomes evident – if he’s even in office by that point.

    I think that as long as the Fed’s free money is rolling the Vic electorate remain fat dumb and happy. Content to back savior Dan because without him “we are all gonna die”. Every day and night the media with the Govt are flooding tellie with messages of doom and fear. All directed at millennials and GenX. Scummo won’t turn off the money tap because that will give Dan the opportunity to blame the nasty Feds. Both of these turds are only interested in poll numbers.

  63. Roger

    …because he let the process drift, and let others define his choice, he found himself in another, smaller box: It has to be an African American woman

    But in the end Joe showed great agility in getting out of that box by choosing Kamala Harris.

  64. incoherent rambler

    Coronaphobic(s)
    © Struth. All rights reserved.

    I will use that.
    Thank you.

  65. Old School Conservative

    There is no reason to reflect adversely on Numbers’ father’s war service.

    There is reason to reflect adversely on Numbers less than accurate account of it.

    Yep.
    Numbers Senior put in his application to serve many months before conscription was effectively introduced to Australia in 1942.

  66. MemoryFault

    BTW, THE GREAT RESET has now reached one and a half million views.

    Good morning Mrs P.

    Yes, great video. Thanks again for posting it. Sadly written off as “conspiracy theory” by most of the few here who actually watched it. That very same “conspiracy theory” is what is featured in the tape posted by Steve Trickler last night – Oxford University promoting the World Economic Forum’s plans for World Governance via a “Strategic Intelligence”.

    It’s some “conspiracy theory” when the world’s oldest university is openly, publicly, singing its merits.

  67. Roger

    Both of these turds are only interested in poll numbers.

    Thomas Sowell said it best:

    “No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems — of which getting elected and re-elected are No. 1 and No. 2. Whatever is No. 3 is far behind”.

    Morrison showed a glimpse of sanity a couple of weeks back when he said the country couldn’t afford a second lockdown. He’s evidently now put that thought far behind Number 2. Pity the country.

  68. OldOzzie

    Photoreal Roman Emperor Project

    54 Machine-learning assisted portraits

    What Did the Roman Emperors Really Look Like? A Novel Blend of AI and Art Conjures Up Eerily Detailed Photographic Portraits

    Designer Daniel Voshart’s works use a technique that has become popular online.

  69. stackja

    COVID-19 has led to increased deaths but only a tiny fraction were from the virus itself
    COVID-19 has led to thousands more Australians dying — but a silent killer has meant only a tiny fraction of these deaths were actually caused by the virus.

    Sue Dunlevy, News Corp Australia Network
    Subscriber only
    |
    August 14, 2020 6:00am

    Exclusive: The true death toll from COVID-19 may be 17 times higher than from the virus alone due to excess deaths from other causes during the pandemic with people avoiding doctors and hospitals.

    Sick patients have been dodging treatment due to fear of entering health facilities and the deaths are believed to be the result of elective surgery bans, people refusing to visit doctors and hospitals or have medical tests during the pandemic.

    Interestingly, our biggest killers – heart disease and strokes – fell but there were spikes in deaths from respiratory illness including pneumonia and flu, asthma, and emphysema (up by 226).

    It might be that some of these deaths were COVID related but the patient was never tested for the virus.

    “There may well be some,” said Australian National University epidemiologist Professor Peter Collignon.

    But I think it’s very unlikely that those deaths are predominantly due to COVID, if they were due to COVID that means we would have had a lot more clinical disease,” he told News Corp.

    “So, yes, it’s possible some of those cases were due to COVID but I think it’s much more likely that there may have been a delay in getting medical therapy,” he said.

    Cancer deaths increased by 402, deaths from diabetes rose by 88 and dementia deaths increased by 220 compared to the five-year average.

    By the end of April this year 91 people had died from COVID-19 but in the same period there were 1572 excess deaths from other causes.

    On average 42,507 people die every year between January 1 and April 28 but this year there were 1572 more deaths than on average, the Australian Bureau of Statistics found.

    Queensland suffered the highest number of excess deaths with extra deaths up by 7.11 per cent above average.

  70. Farmer Gez

    Kids were telling me of people wanting to put Bendigo in stage 4 last night. From what I understand, about half the cases are from the one chicken shed.

    Hazeldenes from reports.
    The Castlemaine abattoir workers are another source as most live in Bendigo, for obvious reasons.

  71. MemoryFault

    Morrison showed a glimpse of sanity a couple of weeks back when he said the country couldn’t afford a second lockdown.

    Morrison will do exactly as he is told, when he is told, and how he is told.
    Stop trying to attach some level of logic or reason, let alone sanity, to his actions.
    You’ll only give yourself a headache.

  72. Geriatric Mayfly

    Ha, ha, yes.
    Both Bendigo and Ballarat have their gay satellites.

    Once upon a time in a land far away, Bendigo and Ballarat were hard fought Federal marginal seats. I wonder what has changed.

  73. Makka

    I wonder what has changed.

    Immigration?

  74. Roger

    Queensland suffered the highest number of excess deaths with extra deaths up by 7.11 per cent above average.

    It wouldn’t help at under Labor Qld public hospital waiting lists have blown out by astronomical proportions and that was before theatres and clinics were shut down during the lockdown.

    Former public health advocate and surgeon Antony Lynham appears to have lost his voice since becoming a state government minister.

  75. OldOzzie

    The Fiasco of ‘Go Ahead, Break Our Windows’ Policing

    After looters struck downtown Chicago on Sunday night, officials literally raised the bridges to prevent rioting hordes from roaming so easily. They also blocked road access and stopped public transit. So, we have come to this: a major American city is replicating the strategy of medieval castles: flood the moats and raise the drawbridges. All that is missing are crenelated battlements and Welsh longbowmen.

    In Portland, officials aren’t even raising the drawbridges. After more than 70 nights of rioting, Mayor Ted Wheeler’s strategy seems to be, “If you insist on doing this, we might write a strong letter.” He has stopped short of repeating what Monty Python’s French knight told invaders at his castle, “Go away or I will taunt you a second time.” Mayor Wheeler hasn’t taunted them a first time.

    Wheeler has plenty of company among Democratic mayors and governors. Months after George Floyd’s death and the rioting and looting that followed, stores remain boarded up, criminals unpunished. Nothing says, “We protest racial injustice” like burning down the corner grocery or smashing windows to grab boxes of expensive Nikes. Instead of condemning the vandalism and jailing those who committed it, many mayors and city councils are trying to mollify their demands, slash police funding, and wait it out. The appeasement approach will fail to mollify the vandals, but it will enrage ordinary citizens, who want their lives back and an end to all this moral hectoring.

    As we suffer through this summer of discontent, we can see a split emerging among big-city Democrats. Most, like Portland’s Wheeler, Minneapolis’ Jacob Frey, Seattle’s Jenny Durkan, and New York’s Bill de Blasio, favor drastic concessions to protesters, beginning with sharp reductions in police budgets. Seattle just passed a new budget cutting up to 100 officers, slashing salaries for department leaders, and dismantling the special team that removes homeless encampments, one of the city’s worst problems. Seattle’s police chief, Carmen Best, responded by announcing her retirement. She was the first black woman to head the department. No matter to the city council, which was busy congratulating itself for taking what it called “a first step” toward upending the city’s law enforcement. Still, the vote wasn’t unanimous. One council member was angry because the cuts didn’t go far enough. This isn’t sensible policy; it’s senseless self-parody.

  76. stackja

    OldOzzie
    #3547273, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:22 am

    Voter regret?

  77. Mater

    I wonder what has changed.

    It doesn’t explain everything, but the destruction of industry (by unions, energy costs, regulation, etc) has made them more reliant on government.

    Have a look at the before and after pictures, and it provides at least some of the answer. Note that this was a feature, not a bug.

  78. MemoryFault

    It wouldn’t help at under Labor Qld public hospital . . .

    So it’s all the fault of a LABOR government and if we all just vote LNP in the State elections on October 31, all this nonsense will just disappear and we will have a return to sanity.

    Is that about the size of it?

  79. OldOzzie

    Not really avaiable in Australia

    Poor Governance Fuels the Illinois Exodus

    Illinois has a population problem: Our population has been shrinking faster than any other state (except one). The Chicago Tribune Editorial Board and others call this the Illinois Exodus.

    Population changes are a measure of governance quality. We are free to choose where to live, and the United States offers 50 different states and thousands of different localities, each governed in different ways. People consider many factors when choosing where to live, and how a state is governed can be a significant factor in that decision. Over time, people migrate toward places that are governed well and away from areas that are governed poorly.

  80. Roger

    So it’s all the fault of a LABOR government and if we all just vote LNP in the State elections on October 31, all this nonsense will just disappear and we will have a return to sanity.

    LNP/Springborg as Health minister dealt with inherited waiting lists when last in power by sending patients to private hosptials and clinics.

    Such things matter to people who have no other choice but reliance on the public system, Peter.

    Better than dying while waiting for surgery, wouldn’t you say?

  81. Struth

    Good morning Mrs P.

    Yes, great video. Thanks again for posting it. Sadly written off as “conspiracy theory” by most of the few here who actually watched it.

    Right from the start the actions taken by government proved conclusively that it was not about a virus.

    Never in the History of the western world and indeed humanity, has such smashing tyranny occurred, over any pandemic and yet near 6 months later people are still talking about a virus.
    Victoria is coming to all of us, yet down there we have no one to fight.
    It’s Australia’s front line, they seized control, then waited for winter to stick the boot in because Melbournians love a sunny day.
    Makes them want to go outside.
    SCO MO is the cheif problen here as well.
    Hence we have in other states concentrated on him, and his goons.

    I notice last night on sky they started mumbling about rule of law.
    We can’t wait for people who’s egos count for more than doing their job correctly, and that is right wing-ish MSM journalists to work all this out.

    Victoria is the front line and those living down there would rather get on line and mock those pointing out what a dire emergency they are in, than do something.
    Yet we are here to help , and are all basically bereft of ideas without it descending into violence.

    Yanks, fighting to keep their arms, may be OUR only saviours.
    The globalist must get rid of Trump.

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Black Lives Matter protest: Fans boo MLS players as they kneel during anthem

    By Agencies
    7:14AM August 14, 2020
    153 Comments

    Fans at a Major League Soccer game between FC Dallas and Nashville SC have stunned players by booing them for kneeling during the national anthem before the game.

    About 3000 spectators were at Toyota Stadium in Dallas for the resumption of the MLS season. It was the competition’s first game since March.

    Boos could be heard as players from both sides took a knee in support of the Black Lives Matter movement, sparking a scathing response from FC Dallas defender Reggie Cannon.

    He attacked the crowd reaction as disgusting. “How disgraceful is that,” Cannon said. “You got fans booing you for people taking a stand for what they believe in.

    “Millions of other people support this cause and we discussed with every other team and the league what we’re going to do and we’ve got fans booing us in our own stadium.

    “I think it was absolutely disgusting.”

    From the Oz

  83. Roger

    Chuckle.

    Biden: ‘A black woman will become president over my dead body.’

    The Bee.

  84. incoherent rambler

    we’ve got fans booing us in our own stadium…

    Hey football brain. Do you think they might be trying to tell you something?

  85. 132andBush

    Bendigo is a dormitory city for Melb based government employees etc.

  86. Struth

    Victoria, being under complete Chinese/globalist control may want to contemplate that the worst has not been reached by a long shot.
    There is so much more mind crushing insanity and tyranny to be forced on you and then all of us.

    The ideas the Davos/WEF crowd have planned is absolutely insane.

    If they advertise it, is it a conspiracy theory?

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    Fans at a Major League Soccer game between FC Dallas and Nashville SC have stunned players by booing them for kneeling during the national anthem before the game.

    Who knew ordinary people are hairy-chested knuckle-dragging patriots?

    Woke Broke: Ratings Crash 60% for HBO/NFL Show ’Hard Knocks’ (13 Aug)

    HBO’s Hard Knocks, has been the show that has given fans the first real glimpse of NFL action for years. However, ratings for this year’s debut drew a mere 273,000 viewers, a massive drop from the 705,000 viewers who tuned-in for last year’s season premier.

    And who knew that sports-loving knuckle-dragging patriots, which seems to be most sports watchers, won’t watch seditious football players disrespect their own country? Weird huh?

  88. Infidel Tiger King

    Soccer fans are notoriously left wing and even they have had enough.

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What Did the Roman Emperors Really Look Like? A Novel Blend of AI and Art Conjures Up Eerily Detailed Photographic Portraits

    Very interesting portraits emerge. Couldn’t enlarge the list so I got to work looking at them holding the super-magnifier I keep on my desk. What a shame he didn’t go pre-Emperors and look at Julius Caesar. There are several look-alike busts, probably hundreds, and I’d love the see the face of that man. I’m sure he looked nothing like the actor who portrayed him in the recent Netflicks ‘Rome, Empire of Blood’ series.

    ——————-

    Tom, thanks for the Toons. They are always good, and a fine crop o’ them today. I loved the one of a wild Trump on his hot rod revving super-bike labelled ‘economy’ on the tank, while mask-wearing Biden sat unsteady on a penny-farthing with his bike-basket labelled ‘economy’.

    We can only hope that the American people see it like that too.

  90. Roger

    we’ve got fans booing us in our own stadium…

    So players are entitled to freedom of speech/protest but fans aren’t?

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Struth.
    Your tale of woe about the publican earlier.
    You mentioned something about Colesworth and table bookings, but it wasn’t clear exactly what restrictions had been put on trading hours, numbers, bottle shop sales or whatever?

  92. Leigh Lowe

    This week:-
    Crowds booing us. Disgusting. Very bad.
    Next week:-
    No crowds. Much better.

  93. OldOzzie

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3547298, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:46 am

    What Did the Roman Emperors Really Look Like? A Novel Blend of AI and Art Conjures Up Eerily Detailed Photographic Portraits

    Very interesting portraits emerge. Couldn’t enlarge the list so I got to work looking at them holding the super-magnifier I keep on my desk. What a shame he didn’t go pre-Emperors and look at Julius Caesar. There are several look-alike busts, probably hundreds, and I’d love the see the face of that man. I’m sure he looked nothing like the actor who portrayed him in the recent Netflicks ‘Rome, Empire of Blood’ series.

    I agree Lizzie that What a shame he didn’t go pre-Emperors and look at Julius Caesar.

    I assume you have read

    Masters of Rome is a series of historical novels by Australian author Colleen McCullough, set in ancient Rome during the last days of the old Roman Republic; it primarily chronicles the lives and careers of Gaius Marius, Lucius Cornelius Sulla, Pompeius Magnus, Gaius Julius Caesar, and the early career of Caesar Augustus. It spans from January 1, 110 BC through to January 16, 27 BC.

    One of my favourites

  94. rickw

    Couple of my friends just lost their jobs, having worked full time up until now.
    Do they blame Chairman Dan?
    No way!
    T’is their former employer who is to blame for their new found free time.
    It’s a topsy turvy world we live in, with topsy turvy people in it…especially rusted-on Labor supporters.

    Getting bitching about cutting hours further. Don’t blame me, I have to ensure that we match the actual workload, if you want to complain, start making calls to the idiots on spring street, they built this mess.

  95. MemoryFault

    LNP/Springborg as Health minister dealt with inherited waiting lists when last in power by sending patients to private hosptials and clinics.

    Roger, that was six years ago. Nobody had even heard of coronavirus back then, let alone Covid 19 and pandemics.

    But I get your point. You are confirming that you believe things would be vastly different here now if we just had an LNP State government.

    In other words, vote Liberal ‘cos at least they’re not Labor.
    Welcome to Catallaxy – aka the Liberal Party Admiration Society.

  96. OldOzzie

    What Actually Happens to Whiskey When It’s Aged in Wine Casks and Rum Barrels?

    Everything you need to know about “secondary maturation,” and the best bottles that tout it

  97. Shelley

    Had dinner last night with my daughter’s soon to be in laws. TDS all around (except her). I’d had a few and as a result there was pretty robust conversation. One of them in particular was parroting all the leftist media narrative as if she were reading from their playbook. And blamed Trump and Trump alone for the ‘Rona devastating the US. I asked if she thought that Trump brought it into the US – what about China, and then asked if she thought he’d gone too early closing the borders to China. Silence. Then a subject change to how good Dan Andrews was and that nothing was his fault. Then began Round 2. Don’t think I’ll be invited back in a hurry.

  98. Makka

    Welcome to Catallaxy – aka the Liberal Party Admiration Society.

    Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously MF, putting up bs like this doesn’t do you any favours.

  99. Cassie of Sydney

    “Welcome to Catallaxy – aka the Liberal Party Admiration Society.”

    Peter, you need a new shtick. It is tedious.

  100. OldOzzie

    Why the Berlin Wall rose—and how it fell

    The ugly symbol of the Cold War was built to keep East Germans from escaping to the West. A decades-long fight to flee brought it down.

    For nearly 30 years, Berlin was divided not just by ideology, but by a concrete barrier that snaked through the city, serving as an ugly symbol of the Cold War. Erected in haste and torn down in protest, the Berlin Wall was almost 27 miles long and was protected with barbed wire, attack dogs, and 55,000 landmines. But though the wall stood between 1961 and 1989, it could not survive a massive democratic movement that ended up bringing down the the socialist German Democratic Republic (GDR) and spurring on the Cold War’s end.

  101. incoherent rambler

    MF, drop the mantra.
    Above all else, a shitty government needs to be rejected at the polls.
    Think about how this might come to be.

  102. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3547310, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:56 am

    “Welcome to Catallaxy – aka the Liberal Party Admiration Society.”

    you need a new shtick. It is tedious.

    Yeah.
    Cut out the repetition Faulty.
    It isn’t cool, dude.

  103. dover_beach

    Because they are doing it unconstitutionally, in other words unlawfully and the federal Government is as well.
    The states are not separate sovereign nations you git.
    They exist only under the commonwealth constitution.
    It’s where they are validated, and States can be taken back by the commonwealth and also must remain doing what they are allowed to do by Law, under the constitution.

    The States (colonial governments) were here prior to the federal government. It was the States that constituted and ‘validated’ the federal government through a series of conventions and popular votes. But let’s put this to one side, you keep on saying this is all unconstitutional. Maybe, but where are the law suits? I haven’t heard a single constitutional lawyer arguing the orders of the executive, federal or state, or the legislation passed, federal or state, are unconstitutional, nor heard of lawsuits pending from those that have suffered damages yet these must be innumerable. Why is that? Maybe it was a fatal flaw relying on the law to avoid catastrophic policy failure.

  104. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #3547269, posted on August 14, 2020 at 10:16 am

    Ha, ha, yes.
    Both Bendigo and Ballarat have their gay satellites.

    Once upon a time in a land far away, Bendigo and Ballarat were hard fought Federal marginal seats. I wonder what has changed.

    Well, the ALP ran a very successful astroturf campaign in marginal Liberal seats back in the ’80’s and ’90’s.
    Vote the sitting member last …

  105. OldOzzie

    And in Australia?

    China’s Confucius Institute designated as a foreign mission of Beijing

    The State Department has designated China’s Confucius Institute a foreign mission of Beijing, saying the center is an engine for Chinese propaganda efforts in the U.S.

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday that the Confucius Institute U.S. Center, a Chinese government-funded program that focuses on teaching Chinese language and culture across the globe, is “an entity advancing Beijing’s global propaganda and malign influence campaign on U.S. campuses and K-12 classrooms” and is working to expand the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) “global influence.”

    The designation of the Confucius Institute, which has branches on college campuses in the U.S., formalizes the government’s conclusion that the organization is “substantially owned or effectively controlled” by a foreign government and mandates it follow administrative requirements that reflect those for other diplomatic missions like embassies and consulates.

    “The goal of these actions is simple: to ensure that American educators and school administrators can make informed choices about whether these CCP-backed programs should be allowed to continue, and if so, in what fashion. Universities around the country and around the world are examining the Confucius Institutes’ curriculum and the scope of Beijing’s influence in their education systems,” said Pompeo.

    “The United States wants to ensure that students on U.S. campuses have access to Chinese language and cultural offerings free from the manipulation of the Chinese Communist Party and its proxies.”

    The Confucius Institute’s branches have long drawn the ire of China hawks in Washington, with some Republicans urging colleges to cut their ties with the organization.

    “Confucius Institutes have become a big part of campus life around the country, but behind the student activities and language programs, the institutes have two more nefarious core objectives: spreading communist propaganda and spying on Chinese students studying in the free world,” said Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) after the State Department’s announcement. “Beijing’s public diplomacy relies on these communist outposts so they should be forced to register as foreign missions.”

  106. Roger

    But I get your point. You are confirming that you believe things would be vastly different here now if we just had an LNP State government.

    It’s quite simple, Peter.

    Labor’s ongoing mismanagement of hospitals is a likely factor in the spike in deaths in the state in recent months. It means that if people need medical care they are unlikely to get it in a reasonable time frame.

    I have personal experience of this. A son had a rare tumour in his knee. His doctor referred him to his local public hospital and they advised him it would be a 12 month wait before he even got an appointment at a the clinic. A visit to emergency when he was in great pain resulted in him seeing the orthodpaedic registrar, who said ‘I’m sorry, but I have no input on the waiting list.’ We paid to send him privately; the specialist was astonished and said patients with this tumour should be seen within 6 sweeks. When he was opened up the surgeon discovered the tumour had grown considerably since the MRI was done. If he’d spent 12 months on the waiting list created by Labor’s incompetence he would have had to have had his leg amputated.

  107. Eyrie

    Lib/Lab who cares? If Freckles gets in in Qld we’ll just have a different stupid woman “running” (or should that be “ruining”) the place.
    My local member is LNP and a dick who won’t reply to my last email with some interesting HCQ links.

  108. Makka

    Reserve Bank of Australia Governor Philip Lowe is appearing in front of the Parliament’s House of Representatives’ Standing Committee on Economics – says its possible the cash rate will be 0.25% for the next 5 years

    I don’t doubt it.

  109. Cassie of Sydney

    I don’t think many of us here are very enamoured of Morrison, the LNP and so on. There are individual Liberals and Nats I like…..not many though….Craig Kelly, Barnaby Joyce, Matt Canavan, Amanda Stoker (who is trying to redeem herself after the Bettina Arndt disgrace), Nicolle Flint, Celia Hammond and a few others. Whilst I personally like Dave Sharma here in electorate….he is a limp lettuce leaf…although that makes him the perfect MP for Wentworth and I’ll take Dave Sharma any day over the lesbian Medevac skank who was the member for a very brief, unshining six months from October 2018 through to May 2019.

  110. Roger

    I haven’t heard a single constitutional lawyer arguing the orders of the executive, federal or state, or the legislation passed, federal or state, are unconstitutional, nor heard of lawsuits pending from those that have suffered damages yet these must be innumerable. Why is that?

    Probably because there have been several cases heard in recent decades which have indicated that the HC cannot be easily persuaded to override state sovereignty.

    Oops…I’ve just triggered struth.

  111. MemoryFault

    If you want to be taken seriously MF, putting up bs like this doesn’t do you any favours.

    Makka (and others)

    About six weeks ago this came up and I posed the question – at the last two elections – 2016 and 2019, who voted Labor ahead of Liberal?

    It was open for the entire weekend, and in that two (2) only people bashfully admitted that they had voted informal. They were totally pissed off with the Liberals, but couldn’t bring themselves vote them below Labor.

    And that folks, pretty much sums up this place.
    People here still actually think that these days there is any material difference between the three major parties – aka the Socialist Progressive Uniparty.

    Not that it’s worth arguing about. You’re about to have it bludgeoned into you by the Cash Restrictions Bill, complete with jail terms for non compliance, supported in Parliament by all three of the major parties. That gives them 146 seats out of 151 in the HoR, and 61 out of 76 in the Senate.

  112. MatrixTransform

    Labor’s ongoing mismanagement of hospitals is a likely factor in the spike in deaths in the state in recent months

    yep
    ex-wife still in hospital
    no info
    no visitors
    no diagnosis

    she’s still talking gibberish via phone like about feeding the dog that died like 10 year ago etc.
    (a PhD in post-structural feminist theory will do that to you as well …so hard to tell)

  113. Ladyredneck

    In my observations Bendigo embraced the covid panic early and more wholeheartedly than any other of the surrounding rural towns and cities. The fit and young there adopted masks early, the aged no so much. My guess is that the population growth spurred on by a huge building program, eg the new hospital, has brought too many hipster know nothings into town to shore up the lefty inclination already there. The council that runs Bendigo is a disgrace, I have no idea how the rate payers can afford the splendiferous spendathons they indulge in.

  114. I’d had a few and as a result there was pretty robust conversation.

    Great stuff, Shelley
    They’ll be spewing their golden haired boy is going to join a gang of deplorables
    🤣🤣🤣

  115. OldOzzie

    Geodetic airframe

    A geodetic (but sometimes called geodesic)[dubious – discuss] airframe is a type of construction for the airframes of aircraft developed by British aeronautical engineer Barnes Wallis in the 1930s

    Barnes Wallis, inspired by his earlier experience with light alloy structures and the use of geodesically-arranged wiring to distribute the lifting loads of the gasbags in the design of the R100 airship, evolved the geodetic construction method (although it is commonly stated, there was no geodetic structure in R100).[7] Wallis used the term “geodetic” to apply to the airframe and distinguish it from “geodesic” which is the proper term for a line on a curved surface, arising from geodesy.[disputed – discuss]

    The system was later used by Wallis’s employer, Vickers-Armstrongs in a series of bomber aircraft, the Wellesley, Wellington, Warwick and Windsor. In these aircraft, the fuselage was built up from a number of duralumin alloy channel-beams that were formed into a large framework. Wooden battens were screwed onto the metal, to which the doped linen skin of the aircraft was fixed.

    The metal lattice-work gave a light structure with tremendous strength;[2] any one of the stringers could support some of the load from the opposite side of the aircraft. Blowing out the structure from one side would still leave the load-bearing structure as a whole intact. As a result, Wellingtons with huge areas of framework missing continued to return home when other types would not have survived; the dramatic effect enhanced by the doped fabric skin burning off, leaving the naked frames exposed (see photo). The benefits of the geodesic construction were partly offset by the difficulty of modifying the physical structure of the aircraft to allow for a change in length, profile, wingspan etc.

    Geodetic wing and fin structures—taken from the Wellington—were used on the post-war Vickers VC.1 Viking, though with a new fuselage and metal-skinned

    The ‘Dambusters’. The true story behind one of World War II’s most daring bombing missions.

  116. MemoryFault

    That’s it for me.
    Time to go get my pic taken by the radiologist.
    Back tonight – maybe – so can all regale me some more with how things would be totally different and all this Covid nonsense would stop if we just had Liberal state governments – you know – like in NSW.

  117. Very eerie running around the streets at 3am in Yarragrad. In the antifa uniform, minus noodle arms,natch.
    Every car potential Stasi.
    Real East Berlin stuff.
    Legs quite sore this morning. Must be getting old.
    Couple of close calls, but Mission 1 completed successfully.
    Lessons learned.
    The Message is starting.

  118. areff

    Ladyredneck: How’s that multi-million-dollar, state-of-the-art theatre going, the one the council funded to make your town a mecca for the dramatic. A friend’s son who was in the Ned Kelly production a cpouple of years ago tells me it was deeply in the red and failing even back then. Can’t imagine things have improved since.

  119. feelthebern

    Soccer fans are notoriously left wing and even they have had enough.

    MLS crowds in the US have a high proportion of latino attendance.
    If they’re booing, it’s saying something.

  120. Mark A

    Couldn’t enlarge the list

    Save the picture to your PC and open it in Windows Photo viewer or similar, then you can enlarge it to your liking.
    It’s a high resolution picture so it enlarges nicely.

  121. areff

    P quotes: In his excellent piece on Victoria’s latest restrictions, Professor Augusto Zimmerman quotes former Australian Prime Minister, Sir Robert Menzies, as saying: “When we have the all-powerful state, the people will then be the servants of that state and the minds of those people will be servile minds, because there will only be only one master – the state, inhuman but all-powerful!”

    Augusto’s piece, ‘Australia, why did you let it come to this?’ is here for those interested.

  122. Makka

    MemoryFault
    #3547327, posted on August 14, 2020 at 11:12 am

    All of that claptrap doesn’t substantiate your statement that we all here are an admiration society for the Libs. The fact is , you don’t have a clue what people vote.

  123. Maj

    Another Catholic girls school closed because of COVID…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8625643/Sydney-school-St-Vincents-College-Potts-Point-closes-student-tests-positive-COVID-19.html

    We all know correlation does not equal causation but jeez it’s not looking good for the Catholics.

  124. Ally

    woolfe
    #3547168, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:55 am
    I see Tim Souparesaurus was way ahead of his time saying that it was racist to mispronounce someones name.

    I’m not up-to-date with today’s comments yet so don’t know what this is in relation to.

    But let me say this: Tim is very judgmental. My surname gets mispronounced all the time, ever since I was a kid and I don’t go around crying about it. It is not racist to mispronounce someone’s name.

    What about the Scottish surname Dalziel? I’ve never been able pronounce it. I knew someone who had a weird Anglo surname — I could never pronounce it and I can’t even remember what it was because my brain would just shut down. I called their mum Mrs H. So what? Geez.

  125. rickw

    ‘Australia, why did you let it come to this?’

    Because there is now a communist voting block of sufficient mass.

    Home grown communists plus imported communists.

    You don’t think all those imported communists turned up be accident?

  126. Farmer Gez

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese. I hung up quick.

    What’s that all about?

  127. incoherent rambler

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese.

    Sleepers awake!

  128. 132andBush

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese. I hung up quick.

    You sure it was Chinese?
    Not Dan Andrews.

  129. K2

    A bloke in my platoon at Kapooka had a long unpronounceable Polish surname that started with a W.
    He became Recruit Wheelbarrow. Problem solved.

    Soutphommasane’s name is written in French. Which adds an extra layer of difficulty.

  130. 132andBush

    Ask if they have a chaser bin for sale/hire next time.

    #rarerthanrockinghorsemanure

  131. Cassie of Sydney

    “But let me say this: Tim is very judgmental.”

    Yes he is….but the fat pudgy little race pimp has been empowered by specific government legislation to be “judgmental”…. Section 18C!

  132. Makka

    Andrew’s press conferences are a joke. I see around a dozen people in the room. That includes Andrew’s handlers and PR mongs, sound boys, camera people and journos. So maybe 4-5 journos at most asking the questions. You can bet your last dollar every journo invited has gone through Labor’s rigorous screening process and is very clear of the understanding that if they go off the reservation, future invites won’t be forthcoming. On the shit list you’ll go. And the career prospects for banished journos is not that great if they fall afoul of Labour’s PR machine. Andrews has no fear of the press.

  133. Geriatric Mayfly

    had a weird Anglo surname

    Cholmondeley perhaps? Beauchamp can be tricky too in polite circles.

  134. Ladyredneck

    areff
    #3547340, posted on August 14, 2020 at 11:29 am

    Well I am not a great goer of the theatre, cant imagine that the books are looking very healthy at the moment. My particular experience with the councils stupendously extravagant ways is the spending of $4.5 mill on a new pavilion for the local hockey association, still not quite completed and of course cannot be used now. This is a league that can at best muster 4 A grade teams in either the mens and womens grades. All up there are probably less than 300 playing members of the association and numbers fall every year. I count my lucky stars Im not a Bendigo rate payer!

  135. zyconoclast

    Police arrested Edgar Roman, age 25, at the 17th District (Albany Park) police station when he tried to report his heavily damaged vehicle stolen later that night, according to a CPD report.

    Zoraleigh Ryan, a 55-year-old grandmother from Chandler, Arizona, and her 20-year-old daughter, were struck by a silver SUV as they waited to cross the intersection of State and Hubbard streets around 10:30 p.m., according to police and the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

    The driver got out of the SUV, saw the women on the ground, and then circled back around to run over Ryan again, police reported. She was dragged for a half-block and was later pronounced dead at the scene, police said. Ryan’s daughter, who also lists an Arizona address, was taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital in good condition.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I see Tim Souparesaurus was way ahead of his time saying that it was racist to mispronounce someones name.

    Tim Solarpanelrebate?

  137. Farmer Gez

    incoherent rambler
    #3547357, posted on August 14, 2020 at 11:51 am
    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese.

    Sleepers awake!

    Bobby Numbers handlers are giving warnings. I said too much about the barley tariff.

  138. Delta A

    Augusto’s piece, ‘Australia, why did you let it come to this?’

    An excellent article, areff. Thanks for posting.

  139. P

    Augusto’s piece, ‘Australia, why did you let it come to this?’ is here for those interested.

    Thank you areff. Excellent article + 17 comments – all good reading.

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese. I hung up quick.
    What’s that all about?

    Have you received your seeds yet Gez? Or perhaps some facemasks?

    First seeds, now masks; more unwanted packages arriving on doorsteps (13 Aug)

    ROCKY HILL (WFSB) – You’ve probably heard about people across the country receiving mysterious packages from China with seeds in them.

    Now there is a new scam. People here in Connecticut and in other parts of the country saying they have gotten face masks in the mail from China that they didn’t order.

    “I open up the mailbox and I saw this package and I said wow,” Donny Diloreto said. “I wonder what this could be. I said jeez I wonder if it’s those seeds that are coming from China. So, I opened it up and lo and behold, there were these KN95 masks. So right away I went like that and I dropped it. And I said man I gotta go wash my hands.”

    I have no idea what the CCP is up to with this creepy stuff. Psyops maybe.

  141. incoherent rambler

    had a weird Anglo surname

    Cholmondeley perhaps? Beauchamp can be tricky too in polite circles.

    Blackbotham
    Cockburn (one reason why family surnames follow the male names)

  142. Infidel Tiger King

    Not seeing too much grrrrl power social media posting about Horsey McHorseface and the pure and clean Kiwiland.

  143. calli

    And that folks, pretty much sums up this place.

    What it means is that rather than tell a lie to appease you, they remained silent on how they voted.

    Had I said I voted Liberal, would I ever hear the end of it?

  144. cohenite

    sfw
    #3547156, posted on August 14, 2020 at 8:44 am
    Should I sell my Whitehaven Coal shares? Not asking for advice, just some thoughts on it.

    I know someone who runs the place in Narrabri. I’ll ask him this weekend

  145. Diogenes

    A bloke in my platoon at Kapooka had a long unpronounceable Polish surname that started with a W.
    He became Recruit Wheelbarrow. Problem solved.

    One of the guys I was commissioned with had a Polish name starting with ‘G’, from a callow recruit he was known as ‘Wheelbarrow with a G’, then ‘Mr Wheelbarrow’. I had a much better nickname that has its origins in a pun based on what my Hungarian surname sounds like when pronounced correctly (a pronunciation I do NOT use at school for that very reason).

  146. incoherent rambler

    Polish surname

    Polish guy is asked if he can read the eye chart.
    “Read it? Hell I know the guy!”

  147. Tom

    I loved the one of a wild Trump on his hot rod revving super-bike labelled ‘economy’ on the tank, while mask-wearing Biden sat unsteady on a penny-farthing with his bike-basket labelled ‘economy’.
    We can only hope that the American people see it like that too.

    Lizzie, as you know, it’s a global phenomenon that the people who voted for non-leftwing governments in the US, UK and Australia don’t talk to pollsters, so the current polls you are seeing putting Biden ahead of Trump oversample Democrat voters and undersample GOP voters (as Jared Kushner chipped Bret Baier about on Fox News today with the notoriously inaccurate Fox News polling putting Biden ahead 49% to 41%).

    However, around 75% of those polled recently by a range of pollsters say the economy is the most important issue in November and on the economy Trump is well ahead of Biden.

    They’re the only questions poll respondents can answer honestly without given away who they will vote for.

    Media polling will again be hopelessly wrong because the sample-stacked polls are simply an accurate finding of who the media WANTS to win.

  148. P

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8625643/Sydney-school-St-Vincents-College-Potts-Point-closes-student-tests-positive-COVID-19.html

    We all know correlation does not equal causation but jeez it’s not looking good for the Catholics.

    St Vincent’s College in Potts Point will be closed on Friday for cleaning and to allow health authorities to contact trace after a student on Thursday tested positive to coronavirus.

    It’s the third independent Catholic school to shut after being exposed to the virus with Our Lady of Mercy College in Parramatta closed until August 24 after three cases were linked to the high school.

    Tangara School for Girls in Cherrybrook will also remain shut until August 24, with its COVID-19 outbreak reaching 19 people as its source remains unconfirmed.
    However, the outbreak has been linked to a nearby Opus Dei Catholic study centre, Eremeran, which is closed for cleaning after recently hosting five senior schoolgirls.

    The state on Thursday recorded its first COVID-19 death since August 1 after a Sydney woman in her 80s linked to the Our Lady of Lebanon Church cluster died.

    Dooleys Lidcombe Catholic Club – a second case confirmed at the club.

  149. cohenite

    CSIRO doing their bit. Since the chunk virus human emissions of CO2 have declined by ~ 30% but atmospheric concentration has kept rising at the same rate as last year. But the CSIRO are saying this is perfectly normal because their Cape Grim measuring unit won’t register the decline for some months due to hemispheric movement.

    This is bullshit because CO2 is evenly distributed between the hemispheres and in the northern hemisphere the same atmospheric concentration readings showing no decline have occurred.

    CSIRO, your tax dollar at work lying through its shit stained teeth to you.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    Ladyredneck

    #3547330, posted on August 14, 2020 at 11:20 am

    In my observations Bendigo embraced the covid panic early and more wholeheartedly than any other of the surrounding rural towns and cities. 

    Nice try MsRedneck, but I’ll see your Bendigo and raise you a Geelong.
    Drove through a while back and noted that the tallest building on the waterfront was proudly carrying the brand of WORKSAFE.
    So the biggest show in town is HSE inspectors for industry which has long since gone.
    The biggest employers in the town in my lifetime have been:-
    1. a subsidy sucking Ford engine plant;
    2. a fraudulent building society;
    3. a footy oval which is a tax-payer funded black hole to assuage the town’s entirely well-founded inferiority complex; and
    4. a bunch of “four points of contact” ticket writers.

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Farmer Gez

    #3547355, posted on August 14, 2020 at 11:50 am

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese. I hung up quick.

    What’s that all about?

    Could be just an order for beef with black bean sauce.

  152. Arnost

    Marilyn Monroe to Albert Einstein : “Imagine if we had a child … with my looks and your brains.”
    Albert : “Mmmyes. But equally it could get my looks and your brains.”

    .
    Possibly a true story.

    Given Einstein’s reputation he probably would have been up for it! And interestingly – even though Albert was a lot older, she did have him top of a list that she wanted to meet and more…

    Whilst formally uneducated, suffering from dyslexia and being bipolar, Marilyn was not exactly illiterate or a typical dumb blonde. And she had a reputation for a wicked wit. There is (obviously unfounded) speculation that she had an IQ higher than his. So it may not have been a tragedy if the offspring had her IQ.

    Check out her library [most books had her scribbles in the margins]:

    “I’ve never fooled anyone. I’ve let people fool themselves. They didn’t bother to find out who and what I was. Instead they would invent a character for me. I wouldn’t argue with them. They were obviously loving somebody I wasn’t.”

    …Marilyn

  153. Cassie of Sydney

    “calli
    #3547375, posted on August 14, 2020 at 12:07 pm
    And that folks, pretty much sums up this place.

    What it means is that rather than tell a lie to appease you, they remained silent on how they voted.

    Had I said I voted Liberal, would I ever hear the end of it?”

    Probably not…but here’s my confession…last year I put the sitting member last and the Liberal candidate first!

  154. tallest building on the waterfront was proudly carrying the brand of WORKSAFE.

    Hehe, my first job for the company I’m with.
    Great coin because of the extra travel pay plus longer hours.
    Union Built with pride. And long smokos.
    🤣

  155. Leigh Lowe

    Gez and 132.
    Bloke on radio complaining that he couldn’t get a permit to take his header over the Murray.
    (I assume he is a contractor wanting to go up into NSW and follow the harvesting season South).
    Anyway, no permit until he could provide further information on what a header was and why it should be considered ‘ssential.

  156. Ally

    Once I had to contact a supplier in France for something. Here were the contact details given to me by an Aussie:

    Company Name
    Address
    Telephone
    Contact Person: Mme Meilleurs Salutations

    LOL!

  157. Leigh Lowe

    Probably not…but here’s my confession…last year I put the sitting member last and the Liberal candidate first!

    Oooooh.
    It doesn’t take long before Simple Mantra gets two wheels in the gravel and skids into the Reality Tree.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    Tailgunner

    #3547390, posted on August 14, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    tallest building on the waterfront was proudly carrying the brand of WORKSAFE.

    Hehe, my first job for the company I’m with.
    Great coin because of the extra travel pay plus longer hours.
    Union Built with pride.

    Thought so.
    It looks shoddy already.

  159. Maj

    St Vincent’s College in Potts Point will be closed on Friday for cleaning and to allow health authorities to contact trace after a student on Thursday tested positive to coronavirus.

    It’s the third independent Catholic school to shut after being exposed to the virus with Our Lady of Mercy College in Parramatta closed until August 24 after three cases were linked to the high school.

    Tangara School for Girls in Cherrybrook will also remain shut until August 24, with its COVID-19 outbreak reaching 19 people as its source remains unconfirmed.
    However, the outbreak has been linked to a nearby Opus Dei Catholic study centre, Eremeran, which is closed for cleaning after recently hosting five senior schoolgirls.

    The state on Thursday recorded its first COVID-19 death since August 1 after a Sydney woman in her 80s linked to the Our Lady of Lebanon Church cluster died.

    Dooleys Lidcombe Catholic Club – a second case confirmed at the club.

    We can safely say it wasn’t any of the girls from Tangara/OLMC/St. Vincents College who were spreading the China Virus at Dooleys!

  160. Whitehaven looks bloody attractive at the moment.
    I’ll be waiting on your intel too, cohenite.
    Price smashed up, big dividend. These leftists will never get their ridiculous motion passed.

  161. Dr Faustus

    calli at 7:16 am
    The Age has broken an interesting story about “Patient Zero” in the hotel saga.

    It’s very carefully worded, and appears to exonerate the security guards, and of course, their handlers.

    The distraction squirrel:

    “The suggestion that security guards ever had responsibility for infection control is one of the biggest myths of this debate,” a source closely involved in the hotel quarantine program said.

    In other biggest myths: the suggestion that security guards ever had responsibility for:

    – forecasting 100,000 Covid deaths;
    – scooping up Australia’s stock of PPE;
    – emptying supermarket shelves of toilet paper;
    – bringing peace to the Middle East.

    This country is doomed by lying, feckless politicians and a complicit media.

  162. Diogenes

    We can safely say it wasn’t any of the girls from Tangara/OLMC/St. Vincents College who were spreading the China Virus at Dooleys!

    Maybe, maybe not, the ‘ladies’ from OLMC had quite a reputation when I were a lad (as my son would say when Dinosaurs roamed the earth)

  163. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Check out her library [most books had her scribbles in the margins]:

    “I’ve never fooled anyone. I’ve let people fool themselves. They didn’t bother to find out who and what I was. Instead they would invent a character for me.

    When we did The Crossing, i.e. going over the Atlantic from New York to Southampton on the Queen Mary, there was a display of items belonging to Marilyn Monroe that were up for silent auction. I mentioned here that Hairy nominated US$2000 for a cheque bearing her signature, but I was secretly glad not to own it. It sold for double that. There were also notebooks of hers, scribblings demonstrating her psychic disintegration. I was saddened to see these notebooks in particular as objects for public sale, as they were very personal. It seemed invasive even to read them. She was obviously an intelligent woman, seriously abused by the psychiatric system at the time and by her own sexual fame. You can’t stop memorabilia being significant, but Marilyn’s case seemed so sad.

  164. woolfe

    Ally,
    Mispronouncing Camelas name was deemed to be racist, then of course reliable Joe did it. Look up Tucker Carlson

  165. Infidel Tiger King

    The “man in his 20’s” that has died in Victoria from China Flu wouldn’t perchance be a severely handicapped person residing in a nursing home?

  166. harrys on the boat

    Not seeing too much grrrrl power social media posting about Horsey McHorseface and the pure and clean Kiwiland.

    It’ll be interesting to see the upcoming NZ election. At the moment I have some sympathy for kiwis because they can honestly say they didn’t vote for her. They’re idiots though and I’d imagine they’ll be turkeys voting for xmas.

    Thats why nobody has sympathy for the Vics. Vermin anyway and they voted for Dan good and hard.

  167. Dr Faustus

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese. I hung up quick.

    I had one of those yesterday – apparently from an Australian mobile number 0413 xxx x287.

    I think it was an order for Colonel Faustus’ Finger Lickin’ non-Brazilian chicken wings.

  168. Farmer Gez

    JBS meats is now closing down its abattoir in Melb until the Covid crisis is over.
    A big player in Vic supply.
    Too much of a pain in the arse opening and closing all the time.

    Another abattoir owner from Stawell commenting on ABC country hour said the 2/3 rule had nothing to do with safety or hygiene and is a number plucked out of thin air by a panicked government who’s lost control.
    Not mincing (meat joke) his words at all.

    He fears lamb prices will drop to less than half the value of last year and that’s not a good thing as farmers will not produce at those prices.

    Dickhead Dan has presented the bill for his brain fart idea straight to farmers.

    Meat shortages on their way folks and don’t expect it to be cheaper. The margin will be sucked up by other processors and the supermarkets.

  169. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Probably not…but here’s my confession…last year I put the sitting member last and the Liberal candidate first!

    Me too Cassie. As I recall, we were both fighting the Battle for Wentworth at the time. 🙂

  170. Infidel Tiger King

    Monroe was the famous woman on earth and Hollywood treated her like that.

    Imagine what that evil place does to the unknown rubes landing there.

    The studios are satanic mills.

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Another abattoir owner from Stawell commenting on ABC country hour said the 2/3 rule had nothing to do with safety or hygiene and is a number plucked out of thin air by a panicked government who’s lost control.

    Thus to join just about every other number they have produced for this whole lockdown circus.

  172. Farmer Gez

    I had one of those yesterday – apparently from an Australian mobile number 0413 xxx x287.

    Different number 0527 xxxxxx. Looked weird from the start.
    A woman rang Neil Mitchell 3aw a couple of weeks ago about the same thing.

  173. Cassie of Sydney

    “Me too Cassie. As I recall, we were both fighting the Battle for Wentworth at the time. 🙂”

    We were…and, courtesy of you and Hairy’s wonderful hospitality, I had a bloody good election night party too!

    The hangover the next day was a shocker!

  174. Infidel Tiger King

    I got a call from 1 (800) number this morning from “Services Australia” claiming my TFN had been compromised.

    The ChiComs are desperately short of cash.

  175. Cassie of Sydney

    “The “man in his 20’s” that has died in Victoria from China Flu wouldn’t perchance be a severely handicapped person residing in a nursing home?

    Indeed….let’s just say that I doubt that the Victorian man in his 20’s was in robust health.

  176. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The “man in his 20’s” that has died in Victoria from China Flu wouldn’t perchance be a severely handicapped person residing in a nursing home?

    Je pense que oui.

  177. calli

    We can safely say it wasn’t any of the girls from Tangara/OLMC/St. Vincents College who were spreading the China Virus at Dooleys!

    Ahahah!

    The Mystery Cases solved.

    Naughty wagging schoolgirls.

  178. Makka

    The studios are satanic mills.

  179. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The hangover the next day was a shocker!

    Yairs. Happy days!

  180. Arnost

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese.

    I understand the translation is: “wound my heart with a monotonous languor”

  181. calli

    By the way, I did follow “the Mantra” at the last two (and probably more) elections.

    And that’s a nice pickle I got us all into.

  182. calli

    Another abattoir owner from Stawell commenting on ABC country hour said the 2/3 rule had nothing to do with safety or hygiene and is a number plucked out of thin air by a panicked government who’s lost control.

    Not quite true.

    Not “thin air” at all.

    And I hope they washed their hands thoroughly after said plucking.

  183. Struth

    The States (colonial governments) were here prior to the federal government. It was the States that constituted and ‘validated’ the federal government through a series of conventions and popular votes.

    And colonies agreed to unite under the constitution in 1901 and become states of a sovereign nation.

    But let’s put this to one side, you keep on saying this is all unconstitutional. Maybe, but where are the law suits?

    They’re pretty scared of Palmer’s constitutional enough to have to change the law in WA, because they knew they would lose to the constitution if pushed.

    We have pushed in letter writing and the smart arse brush offs have become “I’ll put it to the AG etc.
    The AG of SA, has basically said she warned people it was unconstitutional when they did it, and therefore covering her arse.

    If you were a lawyer wanting to get anywhere in the corrupt world of our left wing judiciary, would you open your mouth about this, or wait for a citizen with enough cash to take them on?

    I haven’t heard a single constitutional lawyer arguing the orders of the executive, federal or state, or the legislation passed, federal or state, are unconstitutional, nor heard of lawsuits pending from those that have suffered damages yet these must be innumerable.

    Clive Palmer, Pauline Hanson.

    Why is that?

    Cost.

    Maybe it was a fatal flaw relying on the law to avoid catastrophic policy failure.

    I’m just letting people know what they are doing is unconstitutional, however I am well aware that they don’t give a shit about that, but people should understand the criminality of those imposing tyranny.

  184. Dr Faustus

    Queensland Government withdraws bill banning reporting of corruption allegations during elections

    A day after introducing laws that would ban journalists from reporting corruption allegations during elections, the State Government has withdrawn the proposal in a spectacular backflip.

    Attorney-General Yvette D’Ath proposed changes to the Crime and Corruption Commission (CCC) Act in state parliament yesterday that would carry a six-month jail term for people who published CCC allegations about political candidates during an election period.

    Yvette D’ath is a 5W bulb with no significant legal experience.

  185. Boambee John

    Polish surname

    Worked with a Pole whose name was pronounced something like “Cheeseandwhisky”.

  186. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Naughty wagging schoolgirls.

    Memories, memories.

    Hairy absent in Europe on business. Me coping with our two teenagers, the other two from my first marriage having by this time moved out. I am quietly marking exam papers in bed, telephone rings, it’s the local cops. Mrs. Ape, do you known the current whereabouts of your fifteen year old son X? Why yes, he’s at a party in (very wealthy street in the next suburb). The parents are there. Do you want their number? No he is not, Mrs. Ape, he’s here at our police station. He has been picked up by us as a passenger in a Porsche sports car driven at speed by the unlicensed fifteen year old son of the car’s owner.

    Umm. Okaaaay. Coming down now.

  187. max

    Gez I read somewhere that those are random calls hoping a Chinese speaker picks up. It’s a scam aimed at local Chinese apparently.

  188. shatterzzz

    Heard on the grapevine .. there may be NO increase to the OAP for the 1st time EVER on September 20 because the index used to calculate the, miniscule, adjustment hasn’t moved upwards since the March determination.
    Methinx, Bradbury </strong>may be about to take a popularity dive if he lets this one go thru to the keeper!

  189. Dr Faustus

    Daniel Andrews says the higher proportion of young people linked to mystery cases does not necessarily mean they are breaking the rules at a greater rate

    Translation: Young people are much more susceptible to the China pox than, say, nursing home residents – hence the easy outbreak from the quarantine hotel that nobody could ever have predicted.

  190. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #3547375, posted on August 14, 2020 at 12:07 pm

    And that folks, pretty much sums up this place.

    What it means is that rather than tell a lie to appease you, they remained silent on how they voted.

    Had I said I voted Liberal, would I ever hear the end of it?

    Blogwrecker!!!
    Yes.
    Years of ranting and alternatively assuming either silence was assent, or that everyone was too stupid to grasp the brilliance of it all, and then haranguing them as being Stupid Fucking Liberals.
    Then he was confronted with the fatal flaw that, if Cardimona was elected this year, the mantra of “Vote the Sitting Member Last” could be embarrassing come the next election.
    Then we got Faulty Mantra 2.0 which excluded independents.
    As Cassie points out, slavishly following Faulty Mantra 2.0 would have meant a vote for Kerryn Phelps in 2019, because independent.

    If my electorate had the following ballot paper:-
    Mother Theresa (Lib) … sitting member
    Stalin, Joseph (ALP)
    Mengele, Josef (GRN)
    Manson, Charles (IND)
    … I would be a “paid up LNP shill” if I didn’t put Mother Theresa last.

  191. Farmer Gez

    The meat processing fiasco will cause huge drops in all sheep production margins.

    Nobody will pay the previous higher prices for breeders now the lamb market is in free fall.
    Wool is half what it was a year ago but at least we can blame the international downturn on lack of demand caused by Covid shutdowns of retail.

    Dan Andrews is single handedly destroying industries one by one. ScoMo will not be forgiven for not pulling these crazed premiers in line. A weak posing preacher who’s failed every test of leadership.

  192. Farmer Gez

    max
    #3547430, posted on August 14, 2020 at 12:58 pm
    Gez I read somewhere that those are random calls hoping a Chinese speaker picks up. It’s a scam aimed at local Chinese apparently.

    Bugger!
    I was hoping she would love me long time.

  193. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wool is half what it was a year ago

    Likely to be that way for at least another twelve months, if my local buyer is correct.

  194. Leigh Lowe

    Another abattoir owner from Stawell commenting on ABC country hour said the 2/3 rule had nothing to do with safety or hygiene and is a number plucked out of thin air by a panicked government who’s lost control.

    Yes, I smelt rat when the ABC declared abbatoirs “vunnerable” because “people work in close proximity”.
    It is a long time since I have been in an abbs, but my memory was of a decent spacing between wukkas, particularly in slaughter and initial breakdown of carcasses.
    Temperature is more likely to be a factor if anything.

  195. incoherent rambler

    I was hoping she would love me long time.

    No happy ending to this story.

  196. Struth

    Probably because there have been several cases heard in recent decades which have indicated that the HC cannot be easily persuaded to override state sovereignty.

    Oops…I’ve just triggered struth.

    Been living under a rock?

    Again, explain the Pell case, if states are Sovereign.
    Or any state case that ends up in the High Court of Australia, the over riding court over ever state law, via the constitution sect 73.

    I’m not stating it for any other reason other than to point out what is meant to happen.
    We are not going to get it to happen, I’m well aware of that.
    As I said, this doesn’t end without bloodshed and violence.
    It won’t be by the prisoners telling the wardens what they are legally allowed to do to them, like a moron quoting the Geneva convention to the Nazi shoving him into a gas chamber.

    But ordinary folk in this country have been taught nothing about their easy to read constitution and it has been hidden from them.
    Many here believe the only people allowed to read it and who can interpret it correctly, is people on one side of the contract, (as those people have conned them into thinking).
    I quote it because if you look at certain elements of this very simple document , you can see why this has degenerated to the farce of tyranny it has.
    It is not being followed and if it was none of this would be happening.
    And quarantining could be practiced without the tyranny we are under today.

    It is for us to understand now, that the contract is very well null and void.
    We must now walk away from the constitution as well.
    An unconstitutional government we have not agreed to govern us.
    All bets are off.

  197. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Treatment of Australian sheep in Jordan under investigation
    By Latika Bourke
    August 14, 2020 — 11.44am

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    The Department of Agriculture is investigating footage uploaded to social media that appears to show Australian sheep being mistreated by Jordanian sellers ahead of the Eid festival.

    Footage taken by local investigators for Animals Australia as well as market sellers at 10 sites across Jordan shows sheep with Australian national livestock identification ear tags being forced to jump off the backs of trucks, dragged by one leg and bundled into cars for home slaughter, which is banned under animal welfare rules.

    Perth-based exporter Livestock Shipping Services (LSS), which has been found in breach of sheep exporting rules 27 times since 2013, has claimed responsibility for shipping at least some of the sheep.

    In a statement issued through the Australian Livestock Exporters Council, LSS said it had become aware of a “loss of control” within the Jordan sheep supply chain three days before the start of Eid in late July and reported it to the Agriculture Department.

    It partly blamed coronavirus restrictions, saying Australian staff who normally travelled overseas to monitor the treatment of sheep were not present before and during Eid this year.

    In each of the videos uploaded to social media, the sellers say the sheep are Australian and one seller says the animals have come from Qwera – the location of the feedlot owned by the Jordanian company Hijazi & Ghosheh, the parent company of LSS.

    It’s not as though Animals Australia haven’t been busted for using paid for footage, have they.

  198. Struth

    Please understand that in deleting half a sentence to change words and posting quickly I post shit like this

    Many here believe the only people allowed to read it and who can interpret it correctly, is people on one side of the contract,

    “are the”

  199. Struth

    I’m not going back to find your question LL, but if I remember correctly it was about Dans and selling take aways.

    Colesworth are big into selling grog and they don’t like it when some little publican has a licence previously granted that allows him to sell take away in hours they don’t trade.
    He believes they, and many wowser groups are using covid to shut down the small pub owners around the nation, they are all basically restaurants now around these parts, to stifle competition and to more easily regulate.
    Pubs as they were before our new 1984 normal won’t exist again, if they get their way.

  200. Indeed….let’s just say that I doubt that the Victorian man in his 20’s was in robust health.

    So that somehow makes his life less valuable than that of a healthy 20 year-old?
    Meanwhile Catallaxy is populated by posters who bloviate about abortion.
    Hypocrites…

  201. Geriatric Mayfly

    The studios are satanic mills.

    Garland another victim. How Shirley Temple escaped their ravenous appetite for moolah, no matter the cost, is a mystery.

  202. Struth

    I kept the sound down on the TV but had it on Comrade Dan’s media tummy rub.
    These guys are loving every second of this.
    Is he on TV 24/7 in Victoria?
    What a fucking rock star!

  203. incoherent rambler

    Comrade Dan’s media tummy rub

    One certainty in these uncertain times is that the fall from grace of the “Esteemed Supreme Lord Emperor for life” will be rapid when it does occur.

    To think otherwise is to underestimate the simmering ambition of his loyal colleagues who, as always, stand right behind him.

  204. Cassie of Sydney

    “So that somehow makes his life less valuable than that of a healthy 20 year-old?
    Meanwhile Catallaxy is populated by posters who bloviate about abortion.
    Hypocrites…”

    So writes the eternal hypocrite who refuses to venture out of his hermetically sealed car whilst his wife goes shopping.

    But we know what he is…..a coward, a liar and a racist.

  205. Struth

    So that somehow makes his life less valuable than that of a healthy 20 year-old?
    Meanwhile Catallaxy is populated by posters who bloviate about abortion.
    Hypocrites…

    Hypocrites by saying the guy probably died of other causes that already unhealthy young people die of?

    You talk about abortion.
    Abortion and the left.

    Your religion is not Christianity, Bob.
    Your real religion is government.
    Every word, every fable, and statistic is believed as if it was the very word of god.
    You also give your government god the power to kill the unborn, chose who gets to live or die, take elderly life, and many of those abortions are performed on people with the disabilities this young fellow may have died from.
    And we’re hypocrites.
    Fuck off and die, for the good of the world.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    With meeja spin, always look at the omissions which would have helped the narrative.
    If the 20-something year old was a 91.3 kg Adonis who had a skinfold test of sfa, a BMI of nothing and was a triathlete, you don’t reckon that would of got a mention?

  207. Cassie of Sydney

    “Your religion is not Christianity, Bob.”

    Well said Struth.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3547465, posted on August 14, 2020 at 1:38 pm

    “Your religion is not Christianity, Bob.”

    Well said Struth.

    But, but … he’s big-wig on the Council thingy in church isn’t he?

  209. Farmer Gez

    1735099
    #3547453, posted on August 14, 2020 at 1:23 pm
    Indeed….let’s just say that I doubt that the Victorian man in his 20’s was in robust health.

    So that somehow makes his life less valuable than that of a healthy 20 year-old?
    Meanwhile Catallaxy is populated by posters who bloviate about abortion.
    Hypocrites…

    Suicides, mental breakdowns and family bust ups caused by the destruction of jobs and a purpose of life, would make a reasonable person pause to consider the cost of lockdowns.
    As I’ve said before, weird little man

  210. calli

    We know all about the elderly who succumb to Covid but details on the younger ones are very sketchy. They need not reveal their names.

    The real hypocrisy is being selective about information. Why? According to Jennifer Oriel, the press disseminates accurate information that we can depend upon. But it’s the sins of omission that are the problem.

    As for the aborted ones, their crime was in merely existing.

  211. Struth

    You can be a fat ugly old interstate truck driver about to keel over from a heart attack and acute piles, (not cute piles) travel to hotspots, and right around the country and you are completely immune from the virus.
    If you want to travel and never catch the virus, you need one card.
    It’s called an MC licence.

  212. dover_beach

    So that somehow makes his life less valuable than that of a healthy 20 year-old?
    Meanwhile Catallaxy is populated by posters who bloviate about abortion.
    Hypocrites…

    Absurd comparison. Their lives are equally valuable. The difference between the cases is that no one deliberately killed the 20-something whereas someone deliberately kills the child in utero. BTW, you betray yourself by calling the defence of the child in utero from being deliberately killed, ‘bloviating.

  213. rickw

    Jordan shows sheep with Australian national livestock identification ear tags

    True purpose of national tags revealed, to ensure Australia has end to end responsibility for the livestock. Don’t anyone dare to have the commonsense to take the issue up with the Sand Hillbillies involved.

  214. Maj

    So tell me the joke about how Boris is a conservative again…

    Face mask fines hiked to £3,200 and £10k penalties for raves as ministers fear young Brits are ignoring rules

    FINES for not wearing masks are to be hiked to up to £3,200.

    The move comes amid fears that young people could fuel a second wave of coronavirus in Britain.

    Organisers of illegal lockdown raves will also be slapped with £10,000 fines.

    Ministers are worried that young people — who are rarely affected by the virus — are flouting social distancing and mask wearing rules. As a result, they risk spreading Covid-19 to elderly relatives, with deadly consequences.

    People face a £100 fine for not wearing a mask. Repeat offenders will now see fines double each time — all the way up to a maximum of £3,200.

    It is compulsory to wear face coverings on public transport, in shops and when collecting takeaway food. Last month Met Police boss Dame Cressida Dick said she would prefer for shoppers to be “shamed” into wearing masks rather than officers have to enforce the rules.

    But concern among ministers and medics that too many were ignoring this tactic, led Boris Johnson to last night order a clampdown. Illegal raves that have seen thousands of young people across Britain flout social distancing measures are also his ministers sights.

  215. P

    But, but … he’s big-wig on the Council thingy in church isn’t he?

    Dr. Martyr writes on the Council yesterday:
    Plenary should scrutinise the data

  216. sfw

    Thanks Cohenite, I like WHC trouble is they seem to be under a lot of green pressure by super funds and some shareholders to ‘divest’ themselves of coal and go green. Just concerned that there may be enough idiot directors to take notice of them.

  217. calli

    Struth, there seems to be a quarantine problem regarding truckies, brought to my attention by a truckie’s wife this morning.

    They are tested, travel interstate, go home to their families, back on the road, test catches up with them. In the meantime, do the families have to quarantine pending the test results? Her husband drives to Melbourne a couple of times a week.

    There seems to be a real ad hoc approach to this.

  218. Cassie of Sydney

    “Absurd comparison. Their lives are equally valuable. The difference between the cases is that no one deliberately killed the 20-something whereas someone deliberately kills the child in utero. BTW, you betray yourself by calling the defence of the child in utero from being deliberately killed, ‘bloviating.”

    Thanks DB…my thoughts exactly…I thought his choice of the word “bloviating” revealed a lot about the so called Catholic. He really is a disgrace.

  219. rickw

    I got a call from 1 (800) number this morning from “Services Australia” claiming my TFN had been compromised.

    The ChiComs are desperately short of cash.

    I’ve been getting let’s chat texts from the Chicoms.

  220. Johno

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese.

    ‘Tis a scam, if a chinese person answers the phone they get the full broadside.

  221. Leigh Lowe

    dover_beach

    #3547474, posted on August 14, 2020 at 1:49 pm

    So that somehow makes his life less valuable than that of a healthy 20 year-old?
    Meanwhile Catallaxy is populated by posters who bloviate about abortion.
    Hypocrites…

    Absurd comparison. 

    No-one is even making a comparison.
    Let’s put it in terms Spud will understand:-

    Why is a desparate left-wing Premier exploiting the death of a young man (before the body is cold) to prop up his failing narrative that young and healthy people can succumb to Kung Flu?

  222. NoFixedAddress

    rickw
    #3547475, posted on August 14, 2020 at 1:53 pm

    Jordan shows sheep with Australian national livestock identification ear tags

    True purpose of national tags revealed, to ensure Australia has end to end responsibility for the livestock. Don’t anyone dare to have the commonsense to take the issue up with the Sand Hillbillies involved.

    Where’s the FB page from the claimants declaring Palestinian/Jordanians as cruel viscous people.

  223. John Brumble

    “He said contact tracers could not determine the source of infection for 20 per cent of cases in Melbourne and 13 per cent of cases in regional Victoria.”

    Well obviously. If you intentionally avoid any questions that might uncover a link to activity on 6 June, you’re going to miss about that many, yes.

  224. NoFixedAddress

    Johno
    #3547482, posted on August 14, 2020 at 1:58 pm

    Just got a mobile call with a recorded message from someone speaking Chinese.

    ‘Tis a scam, if a chinese person answers the phone they get the full broadside.

    You could always respond in a culturally misappropriated accent – “I told you not to call when Lee is home”.

  225. Makka

    “He said contact tracers could not determine the source of infection for 20 per cent of cases in Melbourne and 13 per cent of cases in regional Victoria.”

    In other words, the contact tracing mission of not identifying the source of the spread is working perfectly. Keep up the good work!

  226. Major Elvis Newton

    Luvvies and twittards are going after Johannes Leak after his cartoon, which simply references a Biden tweet.

  227. cohenite

    Look at this arsehole, a member of the lnp:

    Great Barrier Reef MP Warren Entsch urges climate spending

    Graham Lloyd The Australian August 13, 2020

    Great Barrier Reef special envoy Warren Entsch has urged the federal government to make climate­ change spending a major part of its post-COVID-19 ­eco­nomic recovery plan. In his six-month report to Envir­onment Minister Sussan Ley, the north Queensland MP sounded the alarm about future reef health and joined a global push by green groups to keep climate change action high on the agenda, despite the pandemic.

    Mr Entsch said he was concerned about the threat to the reef posed by climate change and would continue to lobby Ms Ley and Energy Minister Angus Taylor to act.

    Ms Ley said Mr Entsch was “doing an outstanding job in working with communities and stakeholders across the Great Barrier Reef … He highlights the absolute importance of investing in the environment and in the Morrison government maintaining strategies to reduce global­ emissions, and that is exactl­y what we are doing.”

    In his report, Mr Entsch said COVID-19 represented a unique opportunity for policy reform. “I believe it is an important time to consider significant policy ­reforms and not just those seen as politically safe and expedient,” he said.

    He said it was not a question of “black and white economics” and that government should ­“consider more closely the ­soc­ietal and environmental impacts­ of our decision-making’’.

    “We need to harness bold ideas that will propel us forward in this brave new world,’’ he said.

    “Whether it is overhauling taxation and fiscal federalism, a faster transition to renewables, reviewing the viability of fossil fuel subsidies, increasing support for low-emissions industries and perhaps even reconsidering the nuclear moratorium.’’

    Mr Entsch said he agreed the government should pursue a “growth-orientated response” but it “must not accept a scaled-back response to climate change”.

    “We know unequivocally, that climate change is the single greatest threat to the long-term health and future of the Great Barrier Reef,” he said.

    “Australia’s efforts to reduce emissions alone won’t make an appreciable difference to global temperature rises, but the combined­ emissions of Australia and other similar-sized emitters (less than 2 per cent) make up 40 per cent of global emissions.’’

    The Australian Marine Conservation Society welcomed Mr Entsch’s report. Spokeswoman Elise Springett said bolstering clean energy projects that created jobs would show the world Australia was serious about tackling global warming and the envir­onments it impacted on.

  228. Ellen of Tasmania

    Interview with Dr. Denis Rancourt – start at the 18 min. mark. The interview goes for about 25 – 30 mins. Youtube may well pull it – he’s not a fan of masks and explains the nursing home deaths and the amount of stress people are under in terms that don’t flatter our masters.

    Lots of facts and figures to discuss with your mask-buddies. You can also go to: https://activistteacher.blogspot.com/

  229. Cassie of Sydney

    “Major Elvis Newton
    #3547491, posted on August 14, 2020 at 2:12 pm
    Luvvies and twittards are going after Johannes Leak after his cartoon, which simply references a Biden tweet.”

    That means that Johannes is hitting the right buttons. I doubt Johannes is scared of these fascists…the same fascists who went after his father…oh yes I remember that fat little pudgy race pimp and all round fascist urging people to make complaints to the HRC about Johannes’ dad’s truthful cartoon about indigenous families…that was almost four years to the day.

  230. Bruce of Newcastle

    Car bins have gone on strike again.
    Forecast 22 C but at 2 pm 17.9 C.
    What would we be without car bins?

  231. Fisky

    Not that it’s worth arguing about. You’re about to have it bludgeoned into you by the Cash Restrictions Bill, complete with jail terms for non compliance, supported in Parliament by all three of the major parties. That gives them 146 seats out of 151 in the HoR, and 61 out of 76 in the Senate.

    Thanks for the update, Memoryfault. Any chance of you bringing your $20,000 websites online before this becomes a fait accompli?

  232. Tom

    With the election less than three months away. a must-watch: Tucker Carlson Tonigbt.

  233. Zyconoclast

    BHP puts powerful lobby groups on notice over climate change

    Among the miner’s expectations are advocacy for targets that increase over time and aim towards achieving net-zero emissions by 2050, as well as policies to support that transition including a price on carbon.

    The new standards also say the associations must ensure their lobbying is balanced – prohibiting them from emphasising the cost of climate action without considering the cost of inaction – and ensure their lobbying does not attack or promote one energy source or commodity over another, such as advocating for coal or against renewable energy.

  234. Old School Conservative

    Thanks P for the Dr Martyr link.
    What does she mean by this phrase – Confirmation has become an ‘exit sacrament’ for young people and their families.?

  235. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Luvvies and twittards are going after Johannes Leak after his cartoon, which simply references a Biden tweet.

    Yeah, c’mon man. Li’l brown girl says you go take a nap, Jo, and I’ll handle it.
    Nice li’l girl.*

    *sniff, sniff*

  236. JC

    Infidel Tiger King
    #3547413, posted on August 14, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    I got a call from 1 (800) number this morning from “Services Australia” claiming my TFN had been compromised.

    The ChiComs are desperately short of cash.

    I sold a company last year. When the buyer performed an international search, they found the ABN and the name had been used and abused in China. Some deceitful mainlanders were doing some shitty stuff. My lawyer sent me the write up that was on the internet – all in Chinese. I had to sign a stat dec I knew nothing about it in order for the sale to go through.

  237. Bruce of Newcastle

    BHP can go net zero if they want.
    No skin off my nose if they wish to commit seppuku for a myth.
    But please shut up and let the rest of us live our lives without your woke preaching.

  238. Snoopy

    Great Barrier Reef special envoy Warren Entsch has urged the federal government to make climate­ change spending a major part of its post-COVID-19 ­eco­nomic recovery plan. In his six-month report to Envir­onment Minister Sussan Ley,

    What’s the name of Wozza’s report? Brokeback Barrier Reef?

  239. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The new standards also say the associations must ensure their lobbying is balanced – prohibiting them from emphasising the cost of climate action without considering the cost of inaction – and ensure their lobbying does not attack or promote one energy source or commodity over another, such as advocating for coal or against renewable energy.

    There is no cost to ‘inaction’ as there is no problem. And coal always trumps renewable energy.
    When are some politicians with balls going to get up and say this loud and clear?

    Never? BHP too big? And too stupid? And too ‘invested’?

  240. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Great Barrier Reef special envoy Warren Entsch

    How about a little chat with Peter Ridd, Warren? Barrier Reef doesn’t need you.
    The savings will be immense.

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