Some Perspective

Below is a table of monthly deaths registered in Victoria going back to July 2019.

Source: Births, Deaths and Marriages Victoria

Despite the pandemic 541 more Victorians died in July 2019 than they did in July 2020.

This is even after Andrews bungled quarantine and Morrsison bungled Aged Care resulting in Victoria recording over 8,000 positive COVID-19 cases for the month including 93 fatalities.

In 2019 the death rate was 15% higher than today in yet there was no daily death conference by the Premier, the state wasn’t locked down, democracy wasn’t suspended, and the borders remained open.

The Australian people are being frightened into accepting a totalitarian police state and economic ruin without any perspective or reference point whatsoever. This lack of perspective is what enables the political class to justify and extended these punitive and draconian measures devoid of accountability. There has been zero cost-benefit analysis of pandemic policy measures (including of alternative policies) and there is still no talk of an exit strategy at either state or federal level other than to pin hopes on a vaccine that is at best months away and at worse years or never forthcoming.

Without perspective, without facts and data, without cost-benefit analysis we will never get out of lockdown and never restore our freedoms. We will guarantee the cure is worse than the disease and condemn millions of Australians to long-term adversity.

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38 Responses to Some Perspective

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    Whatever it takes, J.
    Someone said that once.

  2. Fred

    A few stats:
    The median age in Australia: 37
    The median age of death in Australia for men: 78
    The median age of death in Australia for women: 84
    The median age of death in Australia from corona-virus: 82

  3. Beachcomber

    Great post Justinian. Fundamental and basic information that demonstrated that there is no epidemic, no pandemic, no plague. Covid-1984 is a vicious charade.

    And yet, no one in the Ministry of Truth media seems to have thought of looking at this basic data and reporting it. Not a single one of the “journalists” is capable of that.

  4. rickw

    Despite the pandemic 541 more Victorians died in July 2019 than they did in July 2020.

    It’s hard to die from falling off your couch.

  5. Beachcomber

    So 450 Australians died due to covid over 6 months, The average age of death was 84.8 the average life expectancy is Australia is 82


    And absolutely nothing is said about this by the Ministry of Truth media. Nothing.
    Instead, the PM, Premiers and Chief Health/Medical Officers of the Ministry of Peace continue their daily Covid-1984 indoctrination sessions.
    Australia is at war with a virus. We have always been at war with a virus and we will always be at war with a virus. The Covid new-normal State is watching you, and you will be vaccinated.

  6. incoherent rambler

    Thank you for the numbers Justinian.
    Excellent post.

  7. 132andBush

    Great post.

    Lots of reports re projected increase in suicide rates.
    Are there any hard numbers out there on this?
    Having trouble finding any.

  8. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    The most damning data set I’ve seen in the last six months.

  9. With Morrison saying that he’ll try and make a vaccine compulsory, I now await the Left to start a campaign calling this the act of a totalitarian and fight tooth and nail against it.

  10. Robbo

    The figures don’t lie but most, if not all, State governments do. Ask yourself the question, why is it that in nearly every other parts of the world they have commonsense rules, like wearing face masks and social distancing, but other than that their citizens and their businesses are going along without suffering too much control. Here in Australia, and particularly in Victoria, we have the population being treated like criminals. Closely watched by police we have massive restriction of movement, businesses either shut down or operating under a restrictive regime that makes them unprofitable, students forced to learn at home rather than their school and even exercise being controlled by a set of rules. Major sports being played in empty stadiums adds to the madness. All this is being forced on us by a group of power mad Premiers and Chief Ministers who ignore the damage they are doing by hiding behind a fable that they can control the virus. Whatever happened to commonsense, to self control, to personal accountability and personal responsibility? Even more importantly whatever has happened to the rights and freedoms of all Australians, many of which are enshrined in our Constitution. The horrible reality is that we have surrendered far too easily to the demands of political leaders who are relishing the dictatorial powers they have awarded to themselves and show no signs of relinquishing soon, if ever. Sadly the spine has disappeared from the bodies of most Australians and we have become meek, mild and manipulated. Ask a Premier like Daniel Andrews a question that is pointed and if he doesn’t want to answer then he won’t answer. Where is the retribution?
    I am no revolutionary but the time has come for Australians to stand up and say that they have had enough of this garbage we are being fed. I no longer believe anything that governments in Australia have to say about this Chinese virus and I know that a growing number of Australians feel the same way.

  11. 132andBush

    There is a large variation between the months.
    Is this variation consistent for the last ten years?
    ie, are July deaths for the last ten years around that 4,000 mark?

  12. DD

    Can someone please explain why our Prime Minister Morrison is responsible for deaths in Victorian Aged Care Homes?
    In New South Wales the Health Minister issued the “Public Health (COVID-19 Aged Care Facilities) Order (no 2) 2020” on 22nd June.
    In issuing this order it seems clear that the NSW Health Minister accepted responsibility for Aged Care Homes and acted on that responsibility.
    We all know that Victoria is a special case. But?

  13. Hay Stockard

    I’ve been telling people this since it started. More people are starting to come round to common sense. A lot still think the sky is falling.

  14. Eddystone

    The median age of death in Australia for men: 78
    The median age of death in Australia for women: 84
    The median age of death in Australia from corona-virus: 82

    The gender virus gap.

    Damn corona virus robs women of two years of life, but grants men four extra years.

    One has to ask what is Tony Abbott’s role in all this?

  15. Catcalling Inebriate

    I do wish people would stop using the phrase “cost benefit” analysis. This is perfectly valid when the elements are purely economic. It’s irrelevant when one of the costs is human life. The only valid point to be made is whether the responses to COVID are effective and whether there is an alternative. The evidence to date is that the methods employed work and they work even better if you have a good system of contact tracing and distributed public health management, both of which appear to be absent in Victoria.
    No one is going to consciously weigh economic cost versus human lives. Not even Xi Zinping and Vladdy Putin.

  16. Mater

    The evidence to date is that the methods employed work and they work even better if you have a good system of contact tracing and distributed public health management, both of which appear to be absent in Victoria.

    If your landing gear fails to lower, remaining in a holding pattern above the airport also ‘works’ to prevent a crash. But for how long?

  17. Eddystone

    Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) has maintained its recommendation and approved the use of HCQ as prophylaxis based on the studies conducted in India, despite World Health Organisation (WHO) suspending the clinical trials using hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) under its Solidarity Trial.

    A recent case-controlled study by ICMR has underlined the benefit of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) as prophylaxis, showing that the sustained use of the anti-malaria drug along with the use of personal protective equipment (PPE) was associated with a significant decline in risk of Covid-19 infection rate by up to 80% among the healthcare workers.

    The study findings further strengthen ICMRs stand on HCQ as prophylaxis, meaning the treatment is given or action is taken to prevent the disease.

  18. j.arimathea

    …to pin hopes on a vaccine that is at best months away and at worse years or never forthcoming.
    Why do they have this obsession with a vaccine, which will have a limited life as the virus mutates as does the flu virus. Might it not be better to use a medication that will alleviate the symptoms down to below life-threatening, or even down to nuisance level. If only such things existed…

  19. Rebel with cause

    No one is going to consciously weigh economic cost versus human lives.

  20. notafan

    They can however weigh lives lost because suicide and delayed seeking of medical treatment versus frail elderly being palliatively cared to death by our oh so compassionate mein fürher

  21. Rebel with cause

    No one is going to consciously weigh economic cost versus human lives.

    They should. In this case, as others have made the point, it is not even clear we are saving lives at all. The cost also happens to be phenomenal. Future generations will be materially poorer, meaning they will have lower quality health care and education (among other things). That’s not to mention the impact right now through destroyed livelihoods, delayed surgery and mental health.

    Government should show us the calculus that we are better off as a result of lockdowns. Let’s have the discussion.

  22. Megan

    The population of Australia is being subjected to the greatest mass experiment in human history, with no parameters except “We’re all gunna die” and “It’s all your fault”.

    There is more than the death of old people going on here – social, political, economic, mental and physical health impacts also come at a cost.

    If you are one the idiots who are whining that every life has to be saved because “precious” then please immediately hand your car keys over to the local plods until you can sell your car, because every single year more people have died and suffered long term injury from car accidents than from this virus. If your actions don’t match your mouth, then please explain why 80+ year old lives in nursing homes trump those of all age groups from babies upwards killed and maimed every day due to stupidity and bad driving.

    And before you start on me for not caring about those who have died, or might die, from COVID 19, I recognise that almost every single one is a loved individual who will be mourned and missed. But newsflash! 100% of us die eventually and watching two old people I love die in the last week, not of Covid but of sadness, of being locked in a room 24/7 for six months with no visitors, or any single thing to look forward to except some vague, undefined finish line at some undeclared point in the future is as cruel or crueller than exposing them to a virus that may or not kill them if they get it. Enough already!

  23. Biota

    Those numbers are not comparing apple with apples. The only valid comparison which is not available would be if COVID was let loose on the community with no controls. What they are probably showing is the reduction in deaths from the usual winter culprits due to the COVID restrictions.

  24. lotocoti

    What are their victory conditions?
    At what point will they decide it safe to declare VW Day?
    Will it be when the Wuhan virus joins the likes of polio, smallpox and rinderpest?
    Or when no more ruin can be done?

  25. John A

    Mater #3552409, posted on August 19, 2020, at 2:31 pm

    The evidence to date is that the methods employed work and they work even better if you have a good system of contact tracing and distributed public health management, both of which appear to be absent in Victoria.

    If your landing gear fails to lower, remaining in a holding pattern above the airport also ‘works’ to prevent a crash. But for how long?

    But if the landing gear unjams itself before you run out of fuel, why not land?

    If you check the recoveries data here, the curve had already peaked before the Viktoriastan Stage 4 curfew and other hysterical measures were imposed.

    AND YET the Premier is trying to find a way to extend the Declared Emergency beyond the legal limit of six months (mid-March to Sept 13th).

    We should revert to Stage 3 from tomorrow, and move to Stage 2 like the other States from Sept 1st. But this megalomaniac wants to make it look as if he saved Viktoriastan. Well, sorry mate, but the is only one Saviour, and you are not Him.

  26. Mater

    But if the landing gear unjams itself before you run out of fuel, why not land?

    Sorry John,
    They’ve staked every thing on a vaccine*. It’s a vaccine, or a long plummet to earth when the fuel runs out. No other option will be considered.
    Vaccine or bust!

    * Equivalent to the pilot staking his salvation on the invention of an anti-gravity machine whilst he holds his plane aloft. The stupidity of staking everything on something which has not even been invented yet (with no contingency plan) is absolutely breathtaking.

  27. Kev from Canberra

    @Robbo – “I no longer believe anything that governments in Australia have to say.”

    Fixed it for you.

  28. Mak Siccar

    Megan
    #3552441, posted on August 19, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    +10

  29. Ozman

    Justinian the Great
    On the money!

    Just don’t expect any from deadly dan.

    Beachcomber
    #3552305, posted on August 19, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    So 450 Australians died due to covid over 6 months, The average age of death was 84.8 the average life expectancy is Australia is 82

  30. calli

    Megan
    #3552441, posted on August 19, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    Megan, what gives me the sh*ts is that we have to bookend our sensible observations with sops to ensure we aren’t seen as being “mean”.

    No such considerations for the so-called “experts” and lickspittle politicians who are ruining the lives of many. They don’t add riders on any of their pronouncements/threats/punishments.

    I’m heartily sick of it. Everyone dies. You, me, every single commenter here will die. No one is exempt. Our rulers are governing by fear of the inevitable by destroying the avoidable.

  31. Kneel

    “No one is going to consciously weigh economic cost versus human lives.”

    Consciously, no.
    Unconsciously, all the time – by deciding to drive or fly or catch a plane, or…, you have weighed the risk in that activity and decided it is worth the small risk of being killed or seriously (or even just mildly) injured in order to, say, go to work and get paid, buy a new toy, whatever.
    Everyone does it all the time.
    And they do it unconsciously because like all things, when you do them enough, it fails to register on your consciousness unless it is brought to your attention in some way.

  32. Megan

    calli @5.56pm.

    100% agree. I’m more than over the fearmongering and the misery it’s causing. Life is terminal …enjoy your time here and live it fearlessly. Don’t cower in a corner hoping death won’t see you there.

  33. Roger

    Without perspective, without facts and data, without cost-benefit analysis we will never get out of lockdown and never restore our freedoms.

    Ah…but it’s the data that might have been that justifies government actions.

  34. notafan

    Exactly Megan re caged frightened elderly.

    I tried to make that point using a real life example to my local MP.

  35. John snowy Bowyer

    The point is that no more people died than last year. The destruction of our economy will soon become apparent and then they will be on to the next bogeyman. We have to put up facts and figures till even the idiot, biased scum journalists have to recognise what has actually happened and that the pollies and MSM are lying to us.
    Push this out in social media and eventually people will have a hook to hang onto journalists who are either stupid or dishonest!

  36. Annie A

    Megan
    #3552441, posted on August 19, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    I so sadly agree.

    Ethically criminal.

  37. Lizzi55

    The covid hoax is being sustained by scared people still turning up at the drive thru covid testing, thinking that by doing so they will eventually get their freedom and jobs back, when in fact the reverse is true. Chairman Dan knows this as he calls for more testing. Inform everyone you know – do not get tested!

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