The truth about the Charlottesville demo

Was reminded by The Outsiders today – during which they gave our very own Alan Moran twenty minutes to discuss the multi-billion dollar cost of green energy to Australian consumers – but also discussed the outright lies of the media and the American left over what Donald Trump had said about the demonstrators in Charlottesville in 2017. No lie ever grows old and cold on the left since they are utterly closed to reason and debate. Joe McCarthy in the early 1950s was absolutely right about communist infiltrators in the American State Department, which has been proven beyond any possibility of refutation – see Blacklisted by History by N. Stanton Evans if you are still in any doubt.

That the left lies without impunity – counting on the ignorance and will to disbelieve of their voting sub-class – is perfectly demonstrated by the distortions and outright lies that have been embedded within their communal mythology. They will still be saying the same in fifty years from now and will be being repeated by the same clueless clowns then as are repeating it now.

Here is the actual press conference:

There were a lot of lessons learnt by the President about the media he was dealing with on that day. I just wish more people appreciated that if you read it in the mainstream press or hear it on the mainstream media, you must assume an anti-Trump bias that will be evident at least 90% of the time if you do any research yourself, and obviously research that is outside what has been reported by the mainstream media itself.

AND FROM OF ALL PLACES: BBC Fact-checks Joe Biden for Charlottesville ‘Very Fine People’ Hoax.

In reality, Trump said the neo-Nazis should be “condemned totally,” a fact that was brought directly to Biden’s attention more than a year ago.

Biden persists in making the false claim, and the U.S. media did not fact-check it Thursday. But the BBC did (original emphasis):

Claim 3: President Trump said there were “very fine people on both sides”, when asked about a far-right rally in 2017.

Mr Biden said one of his goals would be to “wipe out the stain of racism” and he recalled the far-right protests in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 which led to violent clashes and left one counter-protester dead.

He said: “Remember what the President said when asked, he said there were, quote, very fine people on both sides”.

Mr Biden said that after this moment “I knew I had to run” for president.

According to a transcript of a press conference on 15 August, President Trump did say – when asked about the presence of neo-Nazis at the rally – “you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”

During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.”

Most major media outlets — including Fox News — failed to point out that Biden was lying Thursday.

The left never forgets, especially the things that never happened.

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17 Responses to The truth about the Charlottesville demo

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    A lie repeated over and over becomes the truth, said a guy once.

    Joe Biden Repeats the Charlottesville Lie (13 Aug)

    That Trump called neo-Nazis in Charlottesville in 2017 “very fine people” is a lie that has become canon on the left – and it’s one that requires an entire additional 30 seconds of context to disprove. Ironically it was Hitler’s propaganda minister who famously said that “if you tell a lie big enough and just keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it,” and that strategy has been employed here perfectly by the left. Biden decided to repeat the lie in posts on Twitter and Facebook last night.

    Biden Repeats Charlottesville Lie in Dishonest and Divisive DNC Acceptance Speech (21 Aug)

    Former Vice President Joe Biden formally accepted the Democratic Party’s nomination for president Thursday night in a deeply dishonest speech that repeated the Charlottesville lie.

    Even repeated it’s still a lie, and Biden has now proven he’s a liar. How can Americans trust anything he says?

  2. Nob

    Steve, I’m sure you meant “with impunity”, not without.

  3. It’s real power lies in it’s tarnishing of anybody who expresses any support for Trump as Nazi sympathizers.

  4. nb

    Scott Adams suggests Charlottesville might have been staged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbghAO6PT0
    Biden tries to sell the idea of the ‘fine people’ hoax, showing just how dishonest he is and how the Democrats want to sow division to further demoralise the USA.
    Yuri Bezmenov tells it how it is… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgmg2VFX058

  5. Herodotus

    What the politicians have supported:
    Destruction of local manufacture.
    No Fault Divorce.
    Welfare for all, including young women who have children by various fathers.
    Universal medical insurance while enlarging admin but not the practical medicine.
    Same Sex marriage.
    Bans on gas exploration and exploitation.
    Support for Wind and Solar.
    Knobbling Coal.
    Banning Nuclear Power.
    Dodgy Vilification Laws.
    Climate change idiocy.
    Gender Bending.
    Indoctrinating School-age kids.
    Tertiary “education” or “training” of “journalists”.
    What The MSM here have supported:
    All of the above and more.

  6. Bela Bartok

    Herodotus, if I may add to your list of wonders:
    – the vilification of men
    – that white people are racist
    – borders between countries are evil unless proposed by the Left
    – the family court system that isolated and penalises men
    – misogyny is to disagree with a woman when she’s wrong
    – that indigenous peoples are better/smarter/purer than white men
    … I could go on but I need a drink.

  7. Professor Fred Lenin

    Dont know why modern decromats dislike the KKK most of the historic members of it vored decromat ,they hated Lincln like the modern ones do.

  8. Hey come on man .. Orange President dude is even more evil than the Corn Pop ….. very very bad man !

  9. Lazlo

    I well remember a very attractive female Israeli Defence Force spokeswoman at a press conference years ago responding to some allegations about IDF malfeasance against Palestinian civilians.

    She simply said: “There is something you need to understand about these people – they lie”

    The same can now be said about the Democrats and the MSM, including Their ABC.

  10. Googoomuck

    Sadly, those who hate Trump feed their rage with these lies. I was reading the comments The Australian but I gave up. The anti-Trump commenters sounded unhinged. Their posts were just vitriolic insults. The hyperbole was reaching the point where I could easily imagine one of these nuts attempting to assassinate Trump. It is equally sad that the mug on the street doesn’t realise that this is merely theatre for the Democrat leaders. Sure, they hate Trump, but they don’t believe much of what they say about him. It’s all about power. Look at Schiff and the others; they blatantly lied to the public for months.

  11. Herodotus

    A new study of language, say the developers, helps to quickly identify Multiple Fake troll accounts on Twitter, enabling them to be “shut down”.
    This piece of info was relayed by the BBC, who interviewed the guy claiming a very fast success rate of 99.99%. The cruncher was that the example of a troll was someone tweeting “Trump is great” or words to that effect.

  12. Iampeter

    What’s the lie exactly? The disingenuous attempt by the farcical PragerU to suggest there’s some confusion as to which groups Trump or anyone were referring to in the press conference?
    Shouldn’t Trump supporters be pissed with Trump for his comments too? I mean he said there were fine people on both sides. When asked if he was equating antifa with neo-nazis he should’ve said yes but he evaded the question. What a coward. He took a great big dump on his supporters chests and you’re still smiling up at him and asking for more please.

    Also, gotta love the fact that at a time of more conservative media than any other point in history, conservatives are still complaining about the media. It’s almost like they don’t really know anything about politics so talk about the media instead hoping no one notices.

    There were a lot of lessons learnt by the President about the media he was dealing with on that day.

    There’s no lessons for a head of state re the media. The lessons are for the listeners and they have to think for themselves and figure out what’s true or not.
    The head of state has no say in this and any commentary from him disparaging the media is an assault on the free press and free speech and should be condemned.

  13. Mother Lode

    The left very studiously maintain a deceptive dichotomy.

    The right can be condemned because Nastis. They were horrible people, they lost, and the autopsy has been ongoing.

    On the left there is Mao and Stalin (among others). Their history of savagery, the millions dead, the generational turning of the screws, children turned against their parents, show trials, the fear of every dark corner and every key hole – a litany of human destruction and degradation.

    But even now, with the USSR collapsed, there is no laying out the corpse to expose it for what it was. The KGB and the gulags, if known at all, are little more than words.

    What else do people know? Well the USSR was the nation that suffered most at the hands of the Nastis. Little reference to their complicity in carving up Poland, the mass murder of officers in the Katyn Forest, or even decision to hold off attacking the Nastis in Warsaw – where the Russians were content to let the Poles and Germans slaughter each other so Poland would be easier to hold afterward.

    And I would be very interested to see an evaluation of how much of the Soviets’ misery stemmed from Stalin’s purging of the officer corp – the same logic as the Katyn Forest, that competent military leaders are a threat – and the insertion of Political Commissars into military units and decision making, and the likely mismanagement of men and materiel which compromised the military far beyond the immediate reach of these sycophants.

    The Nastis focused most of their brutality on other nations. Communists tend to save their murderous instincts for their own citizens. They provoked the response of other nations and were brought down. There is still an acceptance that as long as communists kill their own people within their own borders they should be left to it.

    So what does the left do? Instead of owning up and admitting that their political pedigree is one of oppression, of the subjection of the people to the state, shoehorning individuals ideological niches where they are slowly killed without the release of death, instead they look to their enemies that believe in freedom and that it is the state that must be constrained and accuses them of being Nastis.

    Statistically, a citizen of any country is in more danger under their own international socialists than their own national socialists. But they are always in peril under any socialists.

  14. Mother Lode

    They The Nastis provoked the response of other nations and were brought down.

    One day I am going to proof read one day.

  15. Archivist

    This is the key quote at 3:30 minutes into the above video of the press conference. The first video doesn’t show it, strangely to me: they go with a watered down thing.

  16. Kneel

    “What’s the lie exactly?”
    The lie is that Trump praised white supremacists.
    He specifically said that such people are “bad” and/or “wrong” or whatever it was – go watch the video.
    He aimed his “support” at those who are more moderate and were peaceful – on BOTH sides.

    “…he said there were fine people on both sides.”
    Which there are. Dickheads on both sides too, but they are a minority.

    The right thinks the left are people with bad ideas, the left thinks the right are bad people with ideas.
    This means: the right believe you can sway people with logic and facts to see the error of their position, the left wants to de-platform and otherwise shut up anyone who disagrees with them.

    Trump wants everyone to have their say, his opponents want him to shut up.
    Guess who is on which side.

  17. Rex Anger

    Also, gotta love the fact that at a time of more conservative media than any other point in history, conservatives are still complaining about the media. It’s almost like they don’t really know anything about politics so talk about the media instead hoping no one notices</em

    Lolwut, IamCognitiveDissonance? Playing this track again? I would have thought the recod needle would be scraping through the turntable by now, given the frequency with which you deploy this trope.

    No matter what Mummy Rand and Daddy (Comrade George) Sore-Arse say, conservatives are not leftists.

    The head of state has no say in this and any commentary from him disparaging the media is an assault on the free press and free speech and should be condemned.

    We’ve heard this sentiment before out of IamALittleFacistShortAndStoutHereIsMyMoustacheSlogansIspout…

    Where was it? Oh yes! Israel Folau is a nasty Christianist who should shut up and accept it is his employer’d right to fire him for something he said that I do not like. Ditto Peter Ridd. His employer has the right to fire him for any reason and everyone who disagrees is against rights!

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