What is the Covid agenda? Do we know?

This video is about Daniel Andrews. Not literally, of course, but you watch it. If you don’t know there is a political agenda beneath all this, if you leave the lockdowns in place, and allow our freedoms to be stolen from us, you will eventually find out.

In Australia there is only one premier who is actively seeking to continue and almost certainly extend this totalitarian lockdown yet it is his handling of this virus that has been more comprehensively bungled than by any other premier. Look at the numbers.

New Cases Australia                              25,205

New Cases Victoria                                18,608

New Cases Outside Victoria                   6,597

Recent Deaths
Australia                                                        156

Recent Deaths
Victoria                                                           149

Recent Deaths Outside Victoria                     7

Total Deaths Australia                                 549

Total Deaths Victoria                                   462

Total Deaths Outside Victoria                      87

Why would you give this power-hungry far-left incompetent an extension of power? Now watch Tucker Carlson again.

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81 Responses to What is the Covid agenda? Do we know?

  1. pbw

    Email from The Australian this morning.

    Andrews backs down on emergency extension
    Andrews has accepted a six-month extension of emergency powers rather than 12…

    accepted

  2. Iampeter

    What is the Covid agenda? Do we know?

    It’s a virus. That was disastrously mismanaged by the American President because he dismissed it as a deep state hoax, then crippled the CDC’s response which he delayed, then sidelined them as if it was their fault.
    Now the entire world is sitting in lockdowns as a result.

    But, yea, you keep asking the real questions.

  3. Fair Shake

    Dan, Victoria cannot breathe.

  4. min

    Stupid cross benchers will probably allow him 3 months at a time thinking that will control him . He probably has spent the $25 billion already claiming it’s to get people back to work ,what will Feds do then ?

  5. Rex Anger

    It’s a virus. That was disastrously mismanaged by the American President because he dismissed it as a deep state hoax, then crippled the CDC’s response which he delayed, then sidelined them as if it was their fault.
    Now the entire world is sitting in lockdowns as a result.

    That’s it Petey! You keep telling us it’s all the Evilbad Orange Man’s fault!

    But, yea, you keep asking the real questions.

    He did. And look at how it triggered you, IamSheeple…

  6. pat

    links to Express newspaper article:

    25 Aug: Spiked Online UK: Government scientist: ‘Lockdown was a monumental mistake’
    Professor Mark Woolhouse said lockdown was a ‘panic measure’ which must never happen again
    A scientist advising the government on infectious diseases has said the lockdown was a ‘monumental mistake on a global scale’, in an explosive interview (LINK) with the Daily Express.
    According to Professor Mark Woolhouse, who sits on the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviours, lockdown was a ‘panic measure’ and he ‘never want[s] to see national lockdown again’…

    Woolhouse originally supported lockdown as a temporary measure, intended to buy time for scientists to come up with new methods for fighting Covid-19. However, he admitted it was done because ‘we couldn’t think of anything better to do’.

    Woolhouse believes ‘the harm lockdown is doing… will turn out to be at least as great as the harm done by Covid-19’, if not greater. ‘The cure was worse than the disease’, he added.

    He also took aim at the government’s policy of closing schools, saying this was ‘not an epidemiologically sensible thing to do’, and that we should have focused on care homes and not kids.
    Woolhouse’s words make a mockery of the government’s claims to be following ‘The Science’ when shutting down society…

    Rather than flail around in search of ideas, the government should end the lockdown for good and allow us to get on with our lives.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/08/25/government-scientist-lockdown-was-a-monumental-mistake/

  7. Disgusted

    Is this “Iampeter” for real?

  8. Lee

    Woolhouse believes ‘the harm lockdown is doing… will turn out to be at least as great as the harm done by Covid-19’, if not greater. ‘The cure was worse than the disease’, he added.

    Tell that to Dictator Dan.
    Oh, I forget, his “superpower” is imperviousness to good advice.

  9. custard

    This morning Chris Bowen the shadow Health Minister attempted to suspend standing orders because he wanted the house to censure Craig Kelly for his support of HCQ.

    The way that TDS has caused the left and our health professionals to dismiss this form of treatment for the WhuFlu must be the greatest (or one of) scandal going around at the moment.

  10. pat

    you have to give it to Woolhouse for saying he supported lockdown, because ‘we couldn’t think of anything better to do’! who will be held accountable?

    4 Jul: Daily Mail: Why one of the world’s top disease experts says Australia should abandon hard lockdowns, embrace ‘herd immunity’ and let COVID-19 rip
    •An Oxford University professor has suggested Australia ditch ‘lockdown’
    •Sunetra Gupta has argued Sweden has ‘done quite well’ with unique approach
    •Remarks come as Victoria suffers through a ‘second peak’ of infections
    By Aidan Wondracz For Daily Mail Australia
    A top disease expert has urged Australia to abandon its ‘selfish’ and ‘self congratulatory’ lockdown tactics and embrace a Swedish-style herd immunity strategy to fight COVID-19…

    State premier Daniel Andrews was slammed by critics as ‘Chairman Dan’ for the state’s harsh lockdown measures in response to the initial COVID outbreak in March – at one point even banning the playing of golf…
    Professor Gupta has argued the state’s predicament is proof that lockdown measures are ineffective in the longterm.
    ‘There is no way lockdown can eliminate the virus … and so it’s not at all surprising once you lift lockdown in areas it will flare up again,’ she told The Australian.
    ‘That is what we are seeing in the southern United States, and in Australia.’…

    According to scientific research, between 30 and 81 per cent of the global population have T-cells from previous colds and flus that could automatically recognise the threat of the coronavirus, making them immune.
    A large number of Australians will also be asymptomatic if they came down with the virus.
    Professor Gupta argued it would be better to let COVID-19 spread in the community and have stronger measures to protect the vulnerable – such as the elderly or sick.
    ‘You can only lock down for so long unless you choose to be in isolation for eternity so that’s not a good solution,’ she was quoted saying.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489039/Oxford-professor-Sunetra-Gupta-says-Australia-embrace-herd-immunity.html

  11. John snowy Bowyer

    Let’s all relax and think calming thoughts!
    If Trump wins in November I am hopeful we will see some sort of retribution levied on the MSM and medical establishment. This will flow on to the rest of the world eventually. This will enrage the usual subjects but not our weak as piss leaders. We have to wait to oust them all until we get something approximating democracy.

  12. pat

    322 of Victoria’s 462 covid deaths in aged care services – residential care
    (6.3 million Victorians punished plus, directly or indirectly, the rest of Australia)
    https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-cases-in-aged-care-services-residential-care

  13. Matt

    Over the past few months there have been a lot of people claiming that COVID deaths are low but suicide numbers are increasing as a result of lockdowns, and therefore lockdowns were contributing to more deaths than they were preventing. Data released from the coroner today debunks that theory.

    ‘There has been no increase to the number of Victorians dying by suicide this year during the coronavirus pandemic. State Coroner John Cain on Thursday released fresh data on the number of suicide deaths between January 1 and August 26, showing there were two fewer suicides in Victoria compared with the same time last year. Between January 1 and August 26, 466 Victorians took their own lives. This was broadly consistent with the same period last year, when 468 Victorians died by suicide, and 2018, when 461 Victorians took their own lives. The numbers are higher than in 2016, when there were 420 suicides. Of the 466 Victorians who died by suicide this year, 350 were men, with most of the men aged 22-55.’

  14. HT

    I know its slight OT, however this morning I had the misfortune to hear Neil Mitchell. Scary how many people are all in for Andrews. I needed to bleach my brain. On the bright side, the roads to my local store this morning was chalked with anti-Dan messages, there’s hope in the world yet.

  15. incoherent rambler

    State Coroner John Cain

    There is something about that guys name that makes it very difficult for me to believe anything he says.

    Just can’t put my finger on it …

  16. H B Bear

    State Coroner John Cain

    Finishing off the Old Man’s work.

  17. Roberto

    Covid mortaility rate in Australia: 21.6 per million

    But if Australia is taken as two separate parts:

    Rate in Australia (excluding Victoria): 4.6 per million
    Rate in Victoria: 70.1 per million

    Well done Dictator Dan. Gold medal performance!

  18. Tom

    Wow! Look at those numbers. The Chinese Communist Party’s Spring Street puppet who now wants unfettered executive power for another year has killed nearly 85% of Australia’s Kung Flu dead. President Xi himself couldn’t have been more disastrous.
    Communism good and hard, Victorians.

  19. Iampeter

    If Trump wins in November I am hopeful we will see some sort of retribution levied on the MSM and medical establishment.

    Yea, just like the wall is built, Hillary is behind bars, Obamacare has been repealed, etc.
    Everything will change once Trump is President!

  20. Speedbox

    pat
    #3561628, posted on August 27, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    Four to five months ago, calmer heads were arguing that there were three realistic courses of action:

    1. The virus is potentially deadly for the elderly and those with serious health problems. We must make every attempt to isolate those people whilst ensuring they receive the best possible on-going care. Spare no expense, whatever it takes.

    2. The virus cannot be beaten. It is a ‘fact of life’. It appears to be highly contagious but for the vast majority, it is not deadly and symptoms will range from asymptomatic to a very bad ‘flu’ which may take 1-4 weeks (and even more in some limited cases) to fully overcome. Those who have a particularly bad episode should receive the full resources of the State in their recovery.

    3. Limited quarantining and spot closures to try and ‘control’ the spread but done in the knowledge that the virus will run its course through the population. It cannot be stopped without a ‘fortress Australia’ mentality and even then, once the virus is within Australia, it will not be fully removed despite enormous cost. Talk of a vaccine is akin to talk of unicorns and if nothing else, awaiting a vaccine (and invoking fortress Australia) will have economic implications that will adversely impact the country for a generation.

    Instead, our Governments have effectively adopted a fortress mentality whilst seemingly unable to manage item 1. And in any event, I have yet to hear a cohesive exit plan – it seems that Australia is pinning its hopes on a vaccine whilst stripping away most of our freedoms as a democratic nation and, running up a colossal bill in the meantime. If somebody knows the exit plan (that doesn’t involve a vaccine), then I’d love to hear it.

    The coronavirus has stripped bare the utter incompetency of our ‘leaders’ and their slavish abdication to the so-called health professionals.

  21. Disgusted

    Give Donald time Iampeter! Wait until after the election which he WILL WIN in a landslide. He is biding his time, doing them slowly.

  22. Rex Anger

    Everything will change once Trump is President!

    It already has, bugman.

    Haven’t you noticed how agitated your programmers are of late?

    The quality of your bullshit, woeful as it was, has only become ever worse…

  23. Beachcomber

    In the Covid-1984 war on Reason and freedom, it needs to be repeated over and over again that:

    The world is suffering from a massive delusion based on the belief that a test for RNA is a test for a deadly new virus

    There is no proof that a virus is being detected by the “Covid-19” rt-RNA PCR test procedures and no evidence that a deadly new virus exists. The so-called virus SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated and shown to be a pathogen.

    All of the statistics on “new cases” and “Covid-19” deaths are scientifically meaningless. They are entirely determined by the number of test procedures carried out and how they are conducted. The parameters for a “positive result” can be adjusted by the deep-state bureaucrats and new waves of “active cases” and “Covid deaths” can be manufactured whenever required by the Andrews regime et. al. They have nothing to do with infections by a novel super–infectious, super-deadly virus.

    There is no epidemic, no pandemic, no plague. There never was. People coming to the end of their lives and dying in their 70s, 80s, 90s and 100s is not a health crisis.

    We need to understand all this so that we can stay sane when the idiots and bureaucrats who govern Australia and their Ministry of Truth media ramp up the scare campaigns about the “new waves” of infection and impose more police-state restrictions.

    Australia has been reduced to this.

  24. Catcalling Inebriate

    Carlson: we have flattened the curve.
    Johns Hopkins: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases
    Normal comes back when abnormal is removed: the virus. This is obvious.
    We can decide who is in government when we vote and I’d imagine O’Brien is thinking his chances in Victoria are much improved.
    In the meantime we have to put up with a lot of faux libertarians and celebrity artistes carrying on about pet subjects or plain attention seeking.

  25. Tim Neilson

    It’s a virus. That was disastrously mismanaged by the American President

    Poor old conceited stupid ignoramus. Almost every aspect of epidemic control in the USA is a state matter. The one major thing within Trump’s control was closing the borders (!) which he did swiflty to howls of protests from inter alia the Randroids – those howls now being somewhat muted.

    because he dismissed it as a deep state hoax,

    Poor old gullible moron. Trump never said the virus was a hoax. He said that Democrat criticism of his handling of it was a hoax. But just keep believing everything you see in the MSM! Never for one nanosecond allow yourself to wonder whether they’re distorting anything to create a furore!

    then crippled the CDC’s response which he delayed, then sidelined them as if it was their fault.

    FFS, do you ever think of addressing substance rather than spin?

    Now the entire world is sitting in lockdowns as a result.

    OMG!!! Iamashiteater the world’s greatest epidemiologist has incontrovertible proof that “the whole world” has suffered from COVID 19 because of something that happened in the USA!
    How did you do it Iamashiteater? Did you trace the genome of viruses in Australia, Asia, South America, Europe etc. back to a source in the US? Please tell!!!

  26. Roberto

    Speedbox

    If somebody knows the exit plan (that doesn’t involve a vaccine), then I’d love to hear it.

    My thought exactly. If there is a plan, it’s being kept very secret.

    But I don’t think there is one, as such a plan would imply a far greater level of intelligence and planning than any of our elected officials has yet demonstrated.

  27. John Smith101

    What is the Covid agenda? Do we know?

    This might help: Plandemic. (Movie: 1hr 15mins) Worth watching the first five minutes or so, at least (includes Event 201).

    Also of interest: Unbelievable Mainstream News from Spain (In Spanish – English subtitles approx 7mins) Fake Spanish news re Covid numbers (sound familiar?)

    Lots of information here: Global Preparedness Monitoring Board, especially the executive summary (pp7-10), which I think clearly spells out the agenda. Note the publication date: September 2019. Coincidence?

    Off topic but good fun anyway: Black Lives Matter OUSTED by Back the Blue | Berkeley Springs, WV

  28. pat

    VIDEO/PICS: 26 Aug: 7News Australia: Lockdown protesters face off with police in Dandenong over Stage 4 COVID restrictions
    by Emily Olle
    Hundreds of anti-lockdown protesters have stormed the streets in Melbourne’s south-east, prompting a tense stand-off with police.
    Anger has boiled over in Dandenong as police attempt to deal with the crowd…

    7NEWS understands one man has been arrested for antagonising and refusing to cooperate with police.
    Charges are expected to be laid.
    The protesters say they are exercising their “right to freedom” and many have told 7NEWS they “don’t believe COVID-19 is real”.
    The cat and mouse game follows a similar anti-mask demonstration in the area on Tuesday night.
    The Public Order Response Team was also called to suburban streets on Monday.
    A 48-year-old man believed to be the protests’ organiser was charged with incitement while another 11 people were slapped with $1,652 fines.

    Under Stage 4 restrictions, Melburnians cannot travel more than 5km from their home and may only leave for four essential reasons: caregiving, shopping, exercise and essential work.
    They also must be at home between the hours of 8pm and 5am.

    Victoria recorded 149 new infections on Wednesday, the state’s third consecutive day with fewer than 150 cases.
    Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton said the numbers were being “a bit stubborn” but three days below 150 was “not bad”…
    Despite the steadying cases, a further 24 deaths were recorded overnight – the state’s second-deadliest day since the pandemic began.
    https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/lockdown-protesters-face-off-with-police-in-dandenong-over-stage-4-covid-restrictions-c-1268077

  29. John Smith101

    On the off chance that this has yet to be posted: Craig Kelly and HCQ. (Youtube 9 mins approx – definitely worth viewing).

  30. Colonel Crispin Berka

    What kind of government leader aims to reduce the amount of knowledge about the spread of an epidemic?
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/dr-fauci-said-he-was-in-surgery-when-cdc-decided-to-reduce-19-testing-i-am-concerned/
    Aiming for less.
    Who does that?

  31. Bruce

    Consider this about the loose connection, er, Chinese infection:

    At the first hint that all was not wontons and Wan Li in Wuhan, the Chinese government shut down all domestic flights out of Wuhan . They did NOT shut down international flights to the rest of the world, particularly North America.In the same time frame, millions of Chinese mobile phones went “dark” in the Wuhan region

    Thousands of Chinese workers still shuttled back and forth to Italy, where they operate large “clothing manufacturing facilities” that specialize in “label-engineering”.

    This was China going all Rahm Emmanuel on the rest of the world.

    The BRI rolled into Victoriastan without any serious challenge. “Belt and Road Initiative”?; more like “rope and chains institutionalized”.

  32. nb

    Tom, #3561669 identifies:
    ‘The Chinese Communist Party’s Spring Street puppet’
    Quite so. We can expand that to the China Party – ALP, and even further to the China Parties ALP/US Democrats. And doubtless further again, perhaps to China’s International Socialists. Birds of a feather. Communists.

    On a brighter note:
    Idaho House passes bill to end ‘state of emergency’ crushing freedom of worship; People in Idaho are rejecting a ‘dictatorship by our government’
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/idaho-house-passes-bill-to-end-state-of-emergency-crushing-freedom-of-worship

  33. Tim Neilson

    Gary Morgan has polled Victorians.

    Fucking hell. We really do deserve everything that’s happening to us.

  34. nb

    pat, #3561738 reports: ‘Lockdown protesters face off with police in Dandenong over Stage 4 COVID restrictions.’
    It’ll be interesting to see at what point they bring in the armoured vehicles.

  35. Lee

    Gary Morgan has polled Victorians. https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8503-views-on-stage-4-restrictions-in-victoria-august-27-2020-202008260908

    Stockholm Syndrome.
    I am not allowed to leave Victoria (even Melbourne for that matter) even if I wanted to.
    I would have had more freedoms under the Stasi, in East Germany.

  36. hzhousewife

    It’ll be interesting to see at what point they bring in the armoured vehicles.

    Just like back home in Mogadishu?
    Actually I think I read that the Dandenong protesters are Armenian?

  37. Ozman

    nb
    #3561763, posted on August 27, 2020 at 3:04 pm
    pat, #3561738 reports: ‘Lockdown protesters face off with police in Dandenong over Stage 4 COVID restrictions.’
    It’ll be interesting to see at what point they bring in the armoured vehicles.

    Depends on the color of the protestors.

  38. nb

    Catcalling Inebriate, #3561725: Gary Morgan has polled Victorians. https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8503-views-on-stage-4-restrictions-in-victoria-august-27-2020-202008260908

    This is disturbing. It does agree with my daily interactions. Trust is easily abused, particularly when the media is so lame. A small grain of hope is that Hillary was 98% going to win, based on polls. Also, polls may well favour the views of past, present, and projected customers.
    In any case, it appears likely Victorians have become more self-destructive than usual. Maybe they will blow up a power station in celebration when the lockdowns lift.

  39. Morsie

    As a Victorian all I can say is that we deserve everything we get.If over 70 % of people are happy with what’s happening we are totally screwed.
    There is no coming back for small business in this state.

  40. Ozman

    nb
    #3561763, posted on August 27, 2020 at 3:04 pm
    pat, #3561738 reports: ‘Lockdown protesters face off with police in Dandenong over Stage 4 COVID restrictions.’
    It’ll be interesting to see at what point they bring in the armoured vehicles.

    Depends on the color of the protesters or whether they are holding up signs on behalf of BLM–Being Locked-up’s Murder.

  41. Ozman

    Lee
    #3561765, posted on August 27, 2020 at 3:08 pm
    Gary Morgan has polled Victorians

    New Poll:

    95% Victorians in favor of lockdowns while government keeps the funds coming.

  42. incoherent rambler

    What we do know.

    When Dan’s hump bursts and he starts to drag the right leg, then we will know that the Z-virus is in its final stages.

  43. BoyfromTottenham

    Question 1: are the numerous ’cause unknown’ cases mainly crims who (for obvious reasons) cannot / won’t use tracing apps or their real location-tracking info to the health authorities?
    2: Have the health authorities figured this out yet (especially in Victoria)?

  44. Lee

    95% Victorians in favor of lockdowns while government keeps the funds coming.

    Simple.
    Reduce JobKeeper to what it was before Covid-19.
    I could never see the point in people who weren’t working before the virus anyway, getting doled out more of taxpayers’ money.
    Naturally, people who are getting $1500 a fortnight for bugger all, are going to want things to continue as they are in Victoria.

  45. nb

    Beachcomber, #3561714 says: ‘There is no proof that a virus is being detected by the “Covid-19” rt-RNA PCR test procedures and no evidence that a deadly new virus exists.’
    Jon Rappoport and Lew Rockwell write on this. I don’t know how true it is, but they certainly provide food for thought.
    Rappoport at: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/08/26/no-proper-study-to-discover-if-covid-virus-exists/
    Rockwell at: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/08/jon-rappoport/covid-did-they-actually-discover-a-new-coronavirus-the-question-wont-go-away/

    Beachcomber’s links:
    https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

  46. Ed Case

    Axeing JobKeeper would be quite popular with the people who signed on but would otherwise qualify for the Dole [JobSeeker]. Showing up for work 3 days/week for $654 Net doesn’t compare with $632 for staying home 7 days a week.
    In related news, Unit Starts in inner city Brisbane are going nuts.
    Since no one in their right mind would buy a Unit now, where’s the dosh coming from?
    Is it the Union Super Funds?

  47. nb

    Here is some CCP news for Danny. Just an update on his friends in China:
    Is the Rebellion of the “Second generation Red” the Last Straw For the CCP?

  48. Boambee John

    Matt

    ‘There has been no increase to the number of Victorians dying by suicide this year during the coronavirus pandemic. State Coroner John Cain on

    A totalky unbiased source? Or Labor (no room for ‘u’) “royalty”?

  49. Simon

    Is Andrews doing this deliberately?

    Is China pulling his strings?

  50. Dinky

    It’s a virus. That was disastrously mismanaged by the American President because he dismissed it as a deep state hoax, then crippled the CDC’s response which he delayed, then sidelined them as if it was their fault.
    Now the entire world is sitting in lockdowns as a result.

    I think you’re letting China off the hook there..

    Trump is certainly a polarising character, you either think he’s the messiah or just a naughty boy.

  51. Iampeter

    Poor old conceited stupid ignoramus. Almost every aspect of epidemic control in the USA is a state matter.

    Uh-huh. This just means you don’t know what the term “pandemic” even means.

    The one major thing within Trump’s control was closing the borders (!) which he did swiflty to howls of protests from inter alia the Randroids – those howls now being somewhat muted.

    The major thing within Trump’s control is to coordinate a national response to a pandemic as per well know and documented processes, as has been done very successfully by both previous administrations and which he categorically failed to do.
    Closing borders isn’t really a part of this as it causes more problems than it solves, like preventing personnel and supplies going where they need to go.
    Also, it doesn’t really work with highly infectious viruses, with long incubation periods and minimal symptoms.
    Also, you’re once again arguing in favor of preventing people from going about their business to stop a virus, so you can’t then oppose things like what the Andrews government is doing, but as usual you don’t seem to understand your own position or it’s full consequences.
    Also, Trump didn’t close the border. Literally everything you’ve said is clueless and/or wrong.

    Trump did tweet thanking China for everything on behalf of the American people, though. That happened.

    FFS, do you ever think of addressing substance rather than spin?

    It’s a good question for you to ask yourself.
    Not that there’s any recovery for you at this point…

  52. Iampeter

    Give Donald time Iampeter! Wait until after the election which he WILL WIN in a landslide. He is biding his time, doing them slowly.

    Trust the plan!

  53. David

    After hearing Sutton today how many have died fom with it and not from it this whole thing is one large con

  54. A simple Plan … But still to simple for a fully developed leftard brain to comprehend …. Good luck !

  55. Jannie

    Disgusted

    Is this “Iampeter” for real?

    No. Its a Bot.

  56. Tim Neilson

    Poor old conceited stupid ignoramus. Almost every aspect of epidemic control in the USA is a state matter.

    Uh-huh. This just means you don’t know what the term “pandemic” even means.

    Poor old sub-cretinous logic fail. Labelling a particular health emergency a “pandemic” is utterly irrelevant to whether under US law the states or the federal government have the authority to deal with it. Total fail by poor old Iamashiteater the lamentable imbecile.

    The major thing within Trump’s control is to coordinate a national response to a pandemic as per well know and documented processes, as has been done very successfully by both previous administrations and which he categorically failed to do.

    Poor old big government loving imbecile. How does COVID 19 world wide compare with previous virus scares world wide? The USA is doing very well by world standards (apart from Democrat run NY and NJ). Did it do well by world standards in dealing with ebola or SARS? There were some serious cockups with ebola, but luckily that want’t as highly contagious as COVID 19.
    Poor old binary absolutist dogmatic generalising prisoner of intellectual labels.

    Closing borders isn’t really a part of this as it causes more problems than it solves, like preventing personnel and supplies going where they need to go.
    Poor old binary absolutist dogmatic generalising prisoner of intellectual labels. Once again unable to think of anything except in absolutist terms. What an intellectual failure. What’s to stop borders being closed and exceptions being made where desirable?
    BTW, on what grounds do you base your assertion as to the ineffectiveness of closing borders? What’s your evidence?
    Poor old bloviating loser.
    Also, it doesn’t really work with highly infectious viruses, with long incubation periods and minimal symptoms.

    Poor old bloviator. See above. With added ridicule and contempt for the repellent turd’s pretence at having any sort of knowledge of epidemic control. Come on Iamashiteater, give us your evidence.

    Also, Trump didn’t close the border. Literally everything you’ve said is clueless and/or wrong.

    Poor old loser and failure, unable to comprehend a simple media article. The article admits that Trump put a ban on foreign nationals from China, they just try to spin the fact that he allowed Americans to return as being somehow a misstep.

    Trump did tweet thanking China for everything on behalf of the American people, though. That happened.

    The poor old self-beclowner posted that right before criticising my question to him: FFS, do you ever think of addressing substance rather than spin?
    What an own goal! What a spectacular self-beclownment!

  57. HT

    Lee
    #3561765, posted on August 27, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    I am not allowed to leave Victoria (even Melbourne for that matter) even if I wanted to.
    I would have had more freedoms under the Stasi, in East Germany.

    Literally, even ISIS allowed family visits.

  58. Delta

    Now join a few dots with this Cairns News story… read the whole thing and the comments. Incredible stuff really especially about our Australian super bureaucrat Jane Halton.

    And I suggest reading through the documents linked in the news article:
    the Rockefeller Foundation’s Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development,
    and
    Event 201 – “a 3.5-hour pandemic tabletop exercise that simulated a series of dramatic, scenario-based facilitated discussions, confronting difficult, true-to-life dilemmas associated with response to a hypothetical, but scientifically plausible, pandemic. 15 global business, government, and public health leaders were players in the simulation exercise that highlighted unresolved real-world policy and economic issues that could be solved with sufficient political will, financial investment, and attention now and in the future.”

    Hmmm ….. could it be that where we all find ourselves may be just as has been planned and practised by some?

  59. Kneel

    “There were some serious cockups with ebola, but luckily that want’t as highly contagious as COVID 19.”

    And, of course, there’s this:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/04/joe-biden-contain-h1n1-virus-232992

    “It is purely a fortuity that this isn’t one of the great mass casualty events in American history,” Ron Klain, who was Biden’s chief of staff at the time, said of H1N1 in 2019″

    Biden was “in charge” at the time – allegedly.

  60. Docket62

    we live in Victoriastan

    I have read thoroughly the relevant orders and always carry a copy with me. I have obtained a mask exemption and exercise that quite freely without any issues. Simply I DO NOT wear one.

    We exercise where and when we want and for whatever amount of time we want (no one has a stop watch on you)

    We see relatives – some of whom live well outside of Melbourne and far beyond the 5KM radius – and we do so LEGALLY because we understand what the exemptions to this are. We even enjoyed a BBQ with 7 of us. – all within the law IF YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

    FFS people. Understand what you CAN do, not what you CAN’T do… and go about your day. Dont spit in the faces of plod, you’ll get a nasty one and regret it where most simply dont want to know.

    Create the purpose for what you want to do, have the legal authority to do it and be prepared to make your case and you’ll be fine. You’ll also get through whatever comes next

  61. Nighthawk the Elder

    Gary Morgan has polled Victorians

    A read through the comments in the msm and it doesn’t matter which side of the left each publication leans to, the number who support and agree with giving away their individual freedoms is just eye watering. But I reckon it’s a lot more than a left vs right factor. There is a whole cohort who are just shit scared of their own shadow.

    Sure, Despot Dan has his rolling roster of sycophants that post his praises, but they’re easy to spot. It’s “the sky is falling and we’re all going to die” chicken shits that are screaming the loudest. They firmly believe Dan’s attempted mad power grab for 12 months, with no debate in the parliament, no review, no checks, balances or oversight, no limitations, no reversal mechanism, was going to save us all. Placing unfettered power in the hands of an idiot bureaucrat like Sutton, despite his chaotic performance to date, is the answer.

    Other stupid ideas being peddled by these risk averse cowards include; compulsory masks in perpetuity, greetings involving human contact (hand shakes, hugs, air kisses, etc.) to be socially unacceptable and permanently submitting to location tracking (did someone mention micro-chipping?). All for the good of humanity you see. (Where have we heard all this crap before?)

    These turkeys are not only praying for, they are demanding an early Christmas.

  62. notafan

    Exactly Docket

    I’ve yet to be questioned but have my resources ready.

    I probably should get mask exemption but organising that is more than I can be bothered to do just yet.

  63. Docket62

    I probably should get mask exemption but organising that is more than I can be bothered to do just yet.

    You dont need one tbh. If you have ‘asthma’ or ‘anxiety’ – neither of which require proofs – they cant do a thing. Its in the orders.

    There is a class action that has been launched by a law group headed by Seven Teffaha – they are seeking to have the orders disqualified as invalid which means every fine ever issued is thrown out, and any arrests are unlawful. WIll make a farce of the Vic Government….

  64. egg_

    What is the Covid agenda? Do we know?

    It’s a virus

    I.am.dumb is a stupefaction virus.

  65. Ozman

    Simon
    #3561820, posted on August 27, 2020 at 4:17 pm
    Is Andrews doing this deliberately?

    Is China pulling his strings?

    Connecting the dots. Yes!

    The Port of Melbourne is Australia’s largest container shipping facility. People committed to Aged Care are dying, but at a rate no more than previous years. The tests are questionable. Yet the test numbers are published by the irresponsible media as if they were actual deaths, causing the ignorant to buy toilet paper. An abattoir scare was attempted (as per USA). Proven therapeutics are banned. Daniel Michael Andrews becomes dictatorial: lockdowns are ordered; businesses are forced to close; social gatherings are restricted; curfews are declared; ineffective masks are required to be worn; military is engaged; egregious fines are issued; traffic is sparse; streets are virtually vacated. The economy crashes. The economic disaster weakens resistance to Chinese Communist Party cash as aid for an economic recovery.

    Daniel Michael Andrews, in the hope that he could get the BRI deal approved and sell off the Port of Melbourne, not only is prepared to sell his soul for a bowl of Chinese rice and dog soup, but has no misgivings about anything he is doing. His only misgiving will come when Prime Minister Scott Morrison is able to enact legislation preventing State Government Premiers engaging in commercial or international agreements with the insidious Chinese Communist Party, which the devious and treasonous Daniel Michael Andrews has sworn to his overlords to do.

    The Chinese Communist Party plots to hold Australia to ransom through its Belt and Road Initiative that the regime has designed to gain rights over roads, rail, ports and airports and then mercilessly dictate the conditions for the importing and exporting of goods to the detriment of the citizens. Australia will effectively become a vassal state of the Chinese Communist Party by default.

    We are witnessing the stealthily treasonous takeover of Australia by the Chinese Communist Party, via Victoria, aided and abetted by Daniel Micheal Andrews.

  66. pat

    not shy:

    25 Aug: World Health Organization: Immunizing the public against misinformation
    According to a recent study evaluating English-language misinformation, the largest category of posts labeled as false or misleading by fact-checkers was content that deliberately challenged or questioned policies and actions of public officials, governments,and international institutions such as the United Nations and WHO.

    One flagrant example of this is “Plandemic,” a 26-minute conspiracy theory video that falsely accuses Dr Anthony Fauci, the leading infectious disease expert in the United States, of manufacturing the virus and sending it to China. The samevideo falsely claims that wearing masks will lead to self-infection. More than 8 million people watched the video across social media before it was taken down…

    Social listening with artificial intelligence
    “Countering fake news or rumours is actually only responding or mitigating when it’s too late,” said Nguyen. “What we’ve put in place in the beginning of the pandemic is what we call a social listening approach.”
    WHO is working with an analytics company to incorporate social listening into its public health messaging development — a first for the Organization…ETC
    https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/immunizing-the-public-against-misinformation

  67. Leo G

    Delta posted at 7:28 pm

    Hmmm ….. could it be that where we all find ourselves may be just as has been planned and practised by some?

    The claimed intent of the Event 201 pandemic exercise conducted in New York on 18 October 18 2019 was to highlight how unprepared we are for a pandemic with particular characteristics:-

    Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats … that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.
    The disease starts … quietly and slowly at first, but then … more rapidly in healthcare settings. When it starts to spread efficiently from person to person in the low-income, densely packed neighborhoods of some of the megacities … the epidemic explodes. It is first exported by air travel … Although at first some countries are able to control it, it continues to spread and be reintroduced, and eventually no country can maintain control.
    There is no possibility of a vaccine being available in the first year. There is a fictional antiviral drug (let’s call it HCQ) that can help the sick but not significantly limit spread of the disease.
    Since the whole human population is susceptible, during the initial months of the pandemic, the cumulative number of cases increases exponentially, doubling every week. And as the cases and deaths accumulate, the economic and societal consequences become increasingly severe.
    The scenario ends at the 18-month point, with 65 million deaths. The pandemic is beginning to slow due to the decreasing number of susceptible people. The pandemic will continue at some rate until there is an effective vaccine or until 80-90 % of the global population has been exposed. From that point on, it is likely to be an endemic childhood disease.

    The effect of the Event 201 pandemic exercise, however, may have been to prime a global panic response to the subsequent real pandemic and obviate a more rational response.

  68. Iampeter

    Labelling a particular health emergency a “pandemic” is utterly irrelevant to whether under US law the states or the federal government have the authority to deal with it.

    All I can do is laugh at this point.

    How does COVID 19 world wide compare with previous virus scares world wide?

    That’s answered in the very bit you quoted and responded to.

    Poor old binary absolutist dogmatic generalising prisoner of intellectual labels. Once again unable to think of anything except in absolutist terms.

    Yes. It’s called “knowing what you’re talking about.”
    To you this is “intellectual failure.”

  69. pat

    covid “the new normal” was preceded by four years of climate change “the new normal”.
    the climate mob certainly see covid as an opportunity to finish off the destruction of western economies, given a chance:

    49m26s to end of ABC Phillip Adams below:
    Wade: your marvellous audience. bigger conversation, we are on a living planet, climate change.
    Adams: that’s one of the things that most concerns me. covid distracts from much more serious problem long-term, climate change:

    AUDIO: 52min 23sec: ABC: Has COVID-19 signalled the end of the American era?
    By Phillip Adams on Late Night Live
    Professor Wade Davis argues that the virus reveals what America has become, and even if President Donald Trump is defeated, a profoundly polarized nation may not be able to find a way forward.
    He writes that “for the first time in the history of the world, all of humanity has come together, focused on the same existential threat, consumed by the same fears and uncertainties, eagerly anticipating the same, as yet unrealized, promises of medical science.”
    Guest: Professor Wade Davis
    Prolific author, Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk, and Professor of Anthropology at the University of British Columbia, Canada
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/the-end-of-the-american-era/12597368

    following is a love letter to America, says Wade to Adams. (not worth reading in full):

    6 Aug: Rolling Stone: The Unraveling of America
    Anthropologist Wade Davis on how COVID-19 signals the end of the American era
    By Wade Davis
    Never in our lives have we experienced such a global phenomenon. For the first time in the history of the world, all of humanity, informed by the unprecedented reach of digital technology, has come together, focused on the same existential threat, consumed by the same fears and uncertainties, eagerly anticipating the same, as yet unrealized, promises of medical science…

    Our interventions to date have largely focused on mitigating the rate of spread, flattening the curve of morbidity…

    How can the rest of the world expect America to lead on global threats — climate change, the extinction crisis, pandemics — when the country no longer has a sense of benign purpose, or collective well-being, even within its own national community?…
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

  70. froginoz

    Comparing with France where we have both camps:
    – Prof. Raoult and his “method” used down South with a 0.45% mortality rate (NB. Raoult is ranked number 1 worldwide in communicable diseases on expertscape — No Sutton there though [is he not an “expert?], at least Fauci is ranked in the Top 0.048%…, not sure about Gates, ha) — part of his method being 1/ testing 2/ isolating the sick only 3/ early treatment with HCQ (+AZ + Zn). To him, compulsory masking is plain stupid, especially outdoors. He’s one of the numerous docs around Europe who are now calling this circus, the “fear pandemic”.
    – Stupid technocrats, self declared “experts”, who somehow finished their medical studies (for some) but forgot their Hippocratic oath and seem quite unfamiliar with the rather easy-to-understand concept of conflict of interests, with the like of Gilead and Gates’ protégés, and who managed to ban HCQ (reclassified as poisonous back in December, nope nope nothing suspicious there) and get us the highest (I believe) mortality rate in Europe, standing proudly at 13% or so…
    If only “bad orange man” had declared HCQ was crap…

    But yeah, nope, no agenda here, nope, pure coincidence…
    (same shitty management in aged care though)

  71. egg_

    Woolhouse believes ‘the harm lockdown is doing… will turn out to be at least as great as the harm done by Covid-19’, if not greater. ‘The cure was worse than the disease’, he added.

    Another Medic bedwetter trying to put the Genie back into the bottle after the fact… too late – you chose a dumbass Political solution to a non-problem, Genius.

  72. Rex Anger

    It’s called “knowing what you’re talking about.”

    If only you actually did, little bugman…

    For if you did, you’d be nowhere near as much fun as you are. There would not be megabytes archiving your repeated self-beclownments here on the Cat, and your screechy attempts at salvaging what little face you have left.

    But since this is not the case, and you will likely die before admitting your understanding is lacking, vive le bugman!

  73. Karabar

    The Canucks are trying to do something about this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPFzcj_yfc&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2UOE0SE0B8azQeZ7zY002nfrV_RdyNJvZtPBYZBS58ZyIhZpR1EhsTGKU
    However, they have been disarmed just like Australia and New Zealand.

  74. pat

    John Smith101 posted a link to Planemic 2, but the video seems to have been removed. (btw the Plandemic referred to in the WHO article I posted was the first one, which is mentioned at the start of Pt2).

    here’s an alternative link, which is still working:

    Youtube: 1h15m: PLANDEMIC 2 : INDOCTORNATION – * NEW * * FULL * DOCUMENTARY

  75. Chris M

    So was Daniel Michael Andrews honeytrapped in China?

    Clearly they have very significant influence over him.

  76. mem

    Who commissioned the research? How were the respondents selected? Each respondent only asked half of the 6 questions so the poll was really much smaller, in fact half of what stated, so just over one thousand people? These snap polls are usually done to promote a political move and are easily manipulated whilst seeming professional. I wouldn’t bet on the result being a true reflection by a long shot.

  77. mem

    Here is a more telling response. https://www.change.org/p/daniel-andrews-resign?redirect=false
    Read how angry people are in the comments.

  78. Lizzi55

    The Covid agenda? There is a big plan and it is public…. look up the UN’s agenda 2030 on duckduckgo. Australia has signed up to this – the implementation of global socialism under the cover of environmental sustainability. In summary it calls for global centralisation of everything. Of course you will be called a conspiracy theorist if you mention it… but it is there in plain view for all to see.

  79. pat

    21 Aug: Global Research Canada: The Carney/Freeland “Green Reset” Shapes Canada’s ‘New Normal’
    By Matthew Ehret-Kump
    Why would Chrystia Freeland, a Rhodes Scholar more proficient in regime change than banking, be given the reigns of Canada’s economic order during these trying times?
    To answer these questions, we must review the role of Mark Carney, UN Special Envoy on Climate Action, former head of the Bank of England, and leading organizer of the upcoming COP26 Summit to be held in the UK this coming November…

    When Mark Carney stepped down from the position of Governor of the Bank of Canada in 2013 to become the first non-British Governor of the Bank of England since the private central bank was created in 1694, it was made clearly known that this Oxford-trained Canadian technocrat had been vetted by some very high level powers.

    After training for years as a Goldman Sachs investment banker where his activities helped fuel the bubble that nearly brought down the world economy in 2008, Carney was brought into the Governorship of the Bank of Canada to take on the role as the clean, conservative-minded Canadian central banker navigating through the chaos which his former employer helped create. It was at this time that Carney became a member of the Rockefeller Foundation’s Group of 30, Foundation board member of the World Economic Forum and leading participant at Bilderberg and Davos events. While still Bank of Canada governor, Carney was handed the keys to the BIS’s Financial Stability Board (FSB) by fellow Goldman Sachs man Mario Draghi in 2011 where he managed global derivates regulation (aka: fuse of the international weapon of mass financial destruction now bursting at the seams)…

    On August 10th, it was first announced that Mark Carney (aka: the eco warrior of bankers) will be running a task force to restart the economy (titled the “Canadian Pandemic Recovery Plan”) which will attempt to aggressively put into motion those Green New Deal reforms laid out during the World Economic Forum’s “Great Reset” summit of July 14, 2020.
    As I laid out in my recent paper The Great Reset Fraud (LINK), this program is little more than a cover for global depopulation and world government run by the same arsonists who have lit the world economy on fire in the first place…

    For starters, Carney’s Task Force on Climate Related Financial Disclosures co-run by New York billionaire Michael Bloomberg aims to force all companies in the world to disclose all activities that either create carbon dioxide or disrupt supposed states of natural equilibrium which mathematical ivory tower ecologists presume govern all natural states.
    On February 26, 2020, Carney joined Sir David Attenborough in launching the “COP26 Green Private Finance Initiative to ensure that “every professional financial decision to take climate change into account…”…
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/carney-freeland-green-reset-shapes-canada-new-normal/5721843

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