Our Lady of The Flu

When Jesus came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him. A man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.” Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “Of course I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!” Immediately he was cleansed of his leprosy. – Matthew 8:1-4

 
Mary has many titles, referencing places (Fatima, Guadalupe, Knock, Lourdes), devotions (Mount Carmel, the Rosary) or her intercessory influence (Good Counsel, Help of Christians, Star of the Sea). Calling her “Our Lady of the Flu” is insulting and, arguably, heretical. We don’t talk about “Our Lady of Diarrhoea” even though that illness kills 1.6 million people annually.

But let’s keep it simple. People turn to Jesus and Mary for hope, deliverance and inspiration. Mother and Son care about our earthly trials while they, of course, are impervious to crisis. But wait, some will object: haven’t artists throughout history used anachronisms to portray the Holy Family in whatever settings or fashions they (the artists) or their patrons knew? Certainly. But artists have never masked holy countenances, represented divine persons as suspicious and frightened of the faithful or bedecked their heads with advertising. The image posted by the Archbishop – president of the never inspiring Australian Catholic Bishops’ Conference – is no better (in fact, it’s worse) than depicting Jesus and Mary in MAGA caps.

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34 Responses to Our Lady of The Flu

  1. Roberto

    Ah, the members of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference – just as one thinks their ineptitude can sink no lower, they still have more to offer.

  2. Nob

    I’d like to see the MAGA Madonna.

  3. Wyndham Dix

    Dear Lord and Father of mankind, forgive our foolish ways;
    reclothe us in our rightful mind, in purer lives thy service find,
    in deeper reverence, praise.
    John Greenleaf Whittier 1807-1892

  4. notafan

    Go away archbishop Coleridge

    Not helping

  5. notafan

    And ‘Archbishop Mark’

    Really?

  6. Judge Dredd

    I think it is distasteful to put masks over the face over beatitude. The face is after all a very important member of the body that reflects the soul.
    I do think the Catholic Church has a lot of imposters in high positions of power, and this is a good example of where you can glimpse how some of those leaders have not kept steadfast to the path.
    That said the Catholic Church proper will continue.
    “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them”

  7. mh

    The image posted by the Archbishop – president of the never inspiring Australian Catholic Bishops’ Conference – is no better (in fact, its worse) than depicting Jesus and Mary in MAGA caps.

    Great imagery.

  8. Cyclist of Doom

    It is not borderline heretical, it is heretical. If Anselm were alive now he would beat him with the nearest hard object.

  9. Professor Fred Lenin

    Would eight armed Vicstasi throw her in the divvievwagon and cart her off without a mask? How about her son ? kneel on his neck to subdue him ? Just askin.

  10. Roger

    Notre Dame de COVID…prie pour nous.

    Pretentious…moi?

  11. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    the Catholic Church has a lot of imposters in high positions of power

    Including the Papacy.

  12. Iampeter

    Calling her “Our Lady of the Flu” is insulting and, arguably, heretical.

    Well, yea, that’s the position of ALL mystics, collectivists and leftists when their irrational beliefs are so much as even laughed at.
    I wonder how you plan to oppose the “woke left” after literally calling something “heretical?”
    I mean, I’m sure you’ve thought about the connection between the modern versions of the same collectivist thinking that originates in concepts like “heresy” and that supporting the latter means you can’t oppose any of the former.

    In any case, I think you’ll find that all of Western Civilization is founded on heretical ideas that you would find insulting and in terms of far more fundamental factors than the trivial stuff you focus on here.

    People turn to Jesus and Mary for hope, deliverance and inspiration.

    Nope. They turn to them to avoid having to deal with reality.

    The image posted by the Archbishop – president of the never inspiring Australian Catholic Bishops’ Conference – is no better (in fact, it’s worse) than depicting Jesus and Mary in MAGA caps.

    Why?

  13. Chris M

    the Catholic Church has a lot of imposters in high positions of power
    Including the Papacy.

    Yes, a Marxist leader and some homosexual pedo priests, bit of an infiltration you have there. The days of John Paul seem long gone.

  14. Rex Anger

    Well, yea, that’s my position when my irrational beliefs are so much as even laughed at.

    Fixed your egregious wrongology and projections for you, Petey. Seriously, your grip on reality is slipping.

    Nope. They turn to them to avoid having to deal with reality.

    Is your way of dealing with reality any better, Peter? Let me know when you finally come to the end of yourself. I will gladly tell you about my Saviour, and how He gives me the strength and courage to deal with reality daily.

    You will need to try harder to induce outrage on this one, Petey. Your deliberate ignorance makes your assertions comical, not aggravating.

    The image posted by the Archbishop – president of the never inspiring Australian Catholic Bishops’ Conference – is no better (in fact, it’s worse) than depicting Jesus and Mary in MAGA caps.

    Why?

    Because it triggers you, little bugman. What more excuse is needed?

  15. candy

    I don’t like it because it gives a feeling of inaccessibility to Mother Mary and Jesus. That they must protect themselves from others above all else.

    For some reason the artist has given Jesus a sort of pointy alien ear too and a sullen angry glare. not pleasant.

  16. Astatine Jones

    Worse than wearing MAGA caps?
    Surely you must surely be joking?!?

    Especially after you’ve just written:

    People turn to Jesus and Mary for hope, deliverance and inspiration.

    More appropriate that they’d be dressed in purple. Afterall, today is ‘Wear it Purple Day’ (a day to celebrate diversity and promote and encourage supportive, safe, empowering and inclusive environments, including the workplace). Surely not a bridge too far for the Catholic Church, or any denomination for that matter?

  17. candy

    Astatine Jones

    I don’t see that they should be used as political or commercial statements by any group at all. It takes away from innocence and simple belief that I like to see the artist portray in religious works, in my opinion.

    Otherwise you may as well put a union t-shirt on them or an LNP t-shirt or Bunnings trade cap even if you think carpentry should be involved in the image.

  18. Rex Anger

    Worse than wearing MAGA caps?
    Surely you must surely be joking?!?

    Especially after you’ve just written:

    People turn to Jesus and Mary for hope, deliverance and inspiration.

    How very ‘centrist’ of you, Metalloid Man. But your coment demonstrates to us all that in the outside world, the Overton window has shifted so far to the left that a Leninist or Marcusean position (where we see you right now) is considered far enough to the right of Pol Pot, Mao and Stalin, to be ‘sensible’ and ‘centrist.’ No wonder the Rosseauvian ‘liberals’ are now being cancelled…

    More appropriate that they’d be dressed in purple. Afterall, today is ‘Wear it Purple Day’ (a day to celebrate diversity and promote and encourage supportive, safe, empowering and inclusive environments, including the workplace). Surely not a bridge too far for the Catholic Church, or any denomination for that matter?

    ‘Wokeness’ or Social Justice is not a compatible religion with any denomination of Christianity. That certain subgroups do it to appease the mob is merely a marker of their death as churches. Christ did say that He would bring division. That following Him would turn people within families against each other. And the world would hate them because of Him.

    Masks, MAGA hats and rainbows are all totems to certain groups in society, at the expense of all others. Christ is for all, and He is bigger and badder than anything He can conceivably be co-opted into, misrepresented about or airbrushed out of.

    In that regard, you have missed the point of this post, Metalloid Man.

  19. Gab

    It’s demeaning and disrespectful and a mockery. Yet again these types of bishops try to turn the supernatural into the mundane.
    The heresy of Modernism continues apace.

  20. John A

    mh #3562582, posted on August 28, 2020, at 9:10 am

    How good is the internet

    Still portrayed as a basically white caucasian. He is the quintessential J-ew, spoke Aramaic, utterly Orthodox etc.

    candy #3562762, posted on August 28, 2020, at 11:31 am

    I don’t like it because it gives a feeling of inaccessibility to Mother Mary and Jesus. That they must protect themselves from others above all else.

    That’s what is so blasphemous. Jesus gave the sick His vitality and health.
    “If I could just touch the hem of His garment…”
    “Only say the word, and my servant will be healed.”
    “If You are willing, You can make me clean.” “I AM willing – be clean.”

  21. Tim Neilson

    I wonder how you plan to oppose the “woke left” after literally calling something “heretical?”

    Poor old conceited stupid ignorant Iamashiteater. Once again demonstrating his utter inability to understand anything.
    Sure, if a non-Catholic had put up the image it wouldn’t have made sense to refer to it as “heretical” (whatever other criticisms might have been made of them). But that’s not the case. No-one is trying to enforce Catholic doctrine on non-Catholics, or in this case even on Catholic laity.
    But this image has been propagated by bishops of the Catholic Church who have accepted appointment on the condition that they adhere to and support Catholic doctrine. Accusing them of heresy for failing to do so is simply asserting that they have breached the duties which they voluntarily assumed in return for their episcopal appointment.
    Poor old risible contemptible loser and failure Iamashiteater doesn’t understand the concept of performance of duties because he’s never in his entire life been able to hold down a job.

    In any case, I think you’ll find that all of Western Civilization is founded on heretical ideas that you would find insulting and in terms of far more fundamental factors than the trivial stuff you focus on here.

    Poor old risible contemptible ignoramus once again displaying his total ignorance of what western civilisation actually is. (Or, to put it another way, engaging in Humpty Dumpty like unreality, trying to ignore the whole richness of western culture and accomplishments by idiolectically defining “western civilisation” to mean a few so-called “enlightenment” philosophers fellating themselves while all around Christians create the great art, literature, architecture, science, laws, ethics etc., which the west lives by.)

    Nope. They turn to them to avoid having to deal with reality.

    Poor old utter loser and failure in life. Here we have Iamashiteater who has no accomplishments, no qualifications, has never been able to hold down a job in his life and has made zero contribution to society (in fact has been a net recipient his whole life) proclaiming that Christians don’t deal with reality – while the whole time Christian charities deal with the poor, Christian health workers heal the sick, Christian safe street ministries face the violence and depredations of problem districts, and so on and so on.
    Iamashiteater is himself 100% ignorant of reality, and frantically avoids any possibility of facing it, in case he sees what Christians are doing in the real world while he sucks himself off in self-adulation at his computer.

  22. Professor Fred Lenin

    It is said its hard to find a Church of Englam\nd cleric who actually believes in God , plenty who believe in marx though .

  23. Professor Fred Lenin

    Interesting thing religion ,my Orkney ancestors built stone Henges ,long before the Pyramids ,the Great Wall and Stonehenge ,it it assumed they were for religous purposes 5,200 years ago . Then they were Norse Gods followed by Christians of the Celtic church ,then Roman Catholics then Church of Scotland.
    My Essex England ancestorrs were worshippers of Druidism then norse gods ,then Roman ones ,Cristians of the old church ,then Roman Catholics untill Henry the 8th when they became Church of England,then Puritan in the Great Cromwells days later back to the Church of England . People are versatile really .
    Just a minor point ,the Orkney people 5,200 years ago could boil water in clay pots unlike aboriginals 5,000 years later .

  24. Tim Neilson

    Just for the record,
    Iamashiteater is the most pretentious conceited stupid ignorant self-beclowner ever to humiliate himself on this site.
    He loves using technical terms from philosophy to make himself look clever, but always misuses them calamitously, thus revealing his utterly hopeless intellectual ineptitude.
    For example on the 27/8/20 “What did Ronny say Josh?” thread he described citing Court decisions as evidence of Australian law as “appeal to authority logical fallacies”.
    Yes, he really is that much of a sad sack risible contemptible pretentious loser and failure. What a turd!

  25. Tim Neilson


    My Essex England ancestorrs were worshippers of Druidism then norse gods ,then Roman ones ,Cristians of the old church ,then Roman Catholics untill Henry the 8th when they became Church of England,then Puritan in the Great Cromwells days later back to the Church of England . People are versatile really .

    That’s the theme of the great satirical poem “The Vicar of Bray” Prof. Maybe the Vicar was one of your forbears.

  26. Rex Anger

    Still portrayed as a basically white caucasian. He is the quintessential J-ew, spoke Aramaic, utterly Orthodox etc.

    The joys of depicting someone you’d never met, based on what you know humans look like around you.

    European artists? European people as models.

    I am sure if you took the Bible to a fellow in the middle of Africa, who had never seen any S-emitic people before, and asked him to paint scenes from it, he’d likely portray them like the people around him…

  27. Astatine Jones

    Rex Anger:
    Yes perhaps I have missed the point of the post. Then again I can’t really see the point of people getting too worked up about fleeting artistic portrayals of M & J posted on Twitter.

    And the purple day comment is nothing really to do with ‘wokeness’ or social justice (although I strongly disagree that these concepts have nothing to do with Christianity). Personally the term ‘wokeness’ irks me, if only for its poor English (it is an Americanism)! Simply it’s about respect for my fellow human beings. And I suppose, a reflection of my idea that the God of Love is supposed to be just that. Of course this simplistic interpretation of ‘God’ will always be torn down (or at least deconstructed) by those with a better grasp of theology than me.

    As an aside, I was lucky once to see Michelangelo’s Pietà (the sculpture of Mary & Jesus) in St. Peter’s Basilica. Now that is a transcendent piece of art!

  28. Iampeter

    Poor old conceited stupid ignorant Iamashiteater. Once again demonstrating his utter inability to understand anything.
    Sure, if a non-Catholic had put up the image it wouldn’t have made sense to refer to it as “heretical” (whatever other criticisms might have been made of them). But that’s not the case. No-one is trying to enforce Catholic doctrine on non-Catholics, or in this case even on Catholic laity.

    He says as he completely fails to understand anything.

    Iamashiteater is the most pretentious conceited stupid ignorant self-beclowner ever to humiliate himself on this site.

    I think if this was true then you wouldn’t be reacting the way you do.
    In fact, the way many of you react kinda suggests that you know full well the exact opposite is the case.

    You and Rex are neck and neck at this point.

  29. Tim Neilson

    He says as he completely fails to understand anything.

    Once again Mr Zero facts/zero logic has nothing except a sneer. What a failure.

    In fact, the way many of you react kinda suggests that you know full well the exact opposite is the case.

    Happy to let the facts speak for themselves, Iamashiteater.
    Tim Neilson
    #3562995, posted on August 28, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    You’re never going to get away from this one Iamashiteater. I don’t care how often it needs to be done, every time you strut onto this site and sneer at others this will be a rancid putrid stinking dog turd on your shoe.

  30. Rex Anger

    You and Rex are neck and neck at this point

    Keep at him, Tim!


    I think if this was true then you wouldn’t be reacting the way you do.
    In fact, the way many of you react kinda suggests that you know full well the exact opposite is the case

    Congratulations on our continued failures to understand what you have done and why we continue to smack you down, IamBugman.

    In fact, please continue to keep failing, bugman. You haveno idea how enjoyable (and even informative) it is to chase dow your wrongology and skewer your asserions with fact, reality, dialectic, history and philosophy.

    In fact, bugman, I am starting t wonder if you even read the wikipedia smary of the plot of Atlas.Shrug before.deciding you were an Ayn Rand-style Objective Rationalist and libertarian.

    I’ve linked it HERE in case you want to at least skim it before screaming and projecting back at me…

  31. Rex Anger

    And the purple day comment is nothing really to do with ‘wokeness’ or social justice (although I strongly disagree that these concepts have nothing to do with Christianity).

    Let us look at the language, Metalloid Man:

    In your own words, ‘Wear it Purple Day’ (a day to celebrate diversity and promote and encourage supportive, safe, empowering and inclusive environments, including the workplace).

    Who sponsors this? From Wikipedia:
    Wear it Purple Day is an annual LGBTIQA+ awareness day especially for young people, based in Australia. Supporters wear purple to celebrate diversity and young people from the LGBTIQA+ community.

    Wear It Purple is a homosexual activist organisation in Victoria hat campaigns on behalf of teenagers, supported by multiple other homosexual activist organisations and paid for by corporate sponsors, personal donations and the Youth Affairs Council of Victoria.

    It is part of a much larger activist network, that if I recall correctly is vehemently andviolently opposed to any form of Christianity. Particularly where it might compete for influence in young peoples’ minds. This is why such organisations champion led the demonisation of any objection to Same Sex Marriage (up to and including threats of property damage and arson to hotels, death threats and the attempted suicide-bombing of the Australian Christian Lobby building in Canberra in 2017). Similarly, any suggestion of counselling vulnerable and confused youth in any direction other than the headlong embrace of LGBT + hedonism is decried as ‘Conversion Therapy’ and banned, and least at State and Territory Level. Does this seem accepting, inclusive and tolerant?

    Since we are now also obliged to look at Social Justice movements and Christianity, let us look at exactly what this means.

    Social Justice, is a nebulous term. One common definition is …the equal access to wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society. But how is this achieved? Let us look to two polular flavors of Social Justice at present, Black Lives Matter and the Anti-Fascist Action movent. Seem equal to you? How will it be achieved? By the violence of people!

    The term ‘Woke’ is used as convenient shorthand amongst thselves, and as a derisive label by their targets.

    Social Justice activists and devotees at all levels, by their own words and actions, are Marxists, using terms of ‘oppressor’ and ‘oppressee,’ ‘privilege’ and power relations, but grouping people by sex, colour, religion, whom they are attracted to, whether or not they think they are actually male or female, etc. That they enjoy such social prominence is simply down to the fact that they are narrowly obsessed wth their view and goals, and wider society (including yourself, Metalloid Man) just wants to live. At times, letting the eccentrics have their way in the name of peace and quiet seem the easiest course. The insanity of violence, intellectual monoculture and cultural terrorisation you now witness is the endstate of such ‘live and let live.’

    Contrast the whole ‘We are changing society, and if you are not with us, you are against us,’ with this verse from Paul in Galatians 3:28 (NLT)- “There is no J-ew nor Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Consider also Romans 12:4-5- “Just as our bodies have many parts and each part has a special function, so it is with Christ’s body. We are many parts of one body, and we all belong to each other.”

    I cannot make the difference any clearer than that. The message of Christ is freedom, forgiveness, salvation through Him and His eternal grace and love for us who did not deserve it, and UNITY in Christ.

    The pseudo-religiosity of Social Justice preaches division, discord, hatred, unforgiveness and ultimately death. You cannot ever be right with the mob. For, as it says in Jeremiah 17:9 (NLT)
    “The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?”

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