Living alone in lockdown? II

We have posted this before, but still an issue.

Don’t be alone. Call someone.

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41 Responses to Living alone in lockdown? II

  1. Roberto

    Do these people not have friends or family with whom they can chat on the phone?

  2. candy

    Seems a bit far fetched. An articulate person with a job generally is not completely alienated from society with no-one to contact or interact with in some way.

    Perhaps it’s a lady trying to set up something with the Sutton chap who is supposed to be some kind of chick magnet.

  3. Seems a bit far fetched.

    You might be surprised at how common this is in today’s world. There are many people, young and old, who don’t have a large circle of friends and the ability to just get out is a way of being part of the world. Even if it’s not direct contact, just being amongst others is often enough.

  4. Speedbox

    It’s still being “talked through and under active consideration”. Still. These people are a joke and to be clear, they don’t actually care about you.

  5. sfw

    The phone is ok but for many especially elderly people there’s nothing better than human contact. My parents live in Melb I normally get there every two or three weeks for a few hours, since this bullshit they’ve seen almost nobody. I can go and see them but getting back out of Melbourne is the problem. Mum and Dad have only seen their four latest great grandchildren once since they were born.

    All because Dan and Brett are power tripping.

  6. Tim Neilson

    bemused
    #3565214, posted on August 30, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    Very true.
    But remember this is Victoria. Candy’s thesis may still be correct – no level of insanity is impossible.

  7. Maman

    Way back in July at the Press Conference on the 17th, Sutton said that people in aged care would also die, not just from the virus, but also because they could not have face to face contact with family and loved ones. Seems a bit far fetched but if you think back to early Australian Aboriginal justice and “pointing the bone”, to married couples who have been together for decades and decades and then die within hours and days of each other . . . 🙁

    Sutton seems to have also had some specialist training in palliative care.

    Sister Cletus says we have to visit our parents in aged care “everyday, at anytime”. Sister Cletus is right.

  8. candy

    Even if it’s not direct contact, just being amongst others is often enough.

    I don’t think isolated somewhat fragile people is rare at all, bemused, and has always been, but I don’t know about this “singles bubble” – and if the person has not had human contact for 4 weeks – I’m a bit doubtful about that in a major city.
    “singles bubble” – LOL sounds like a COVID dating site.

  9. vlad

    Seems a bit far fetched. An articulate person with a job generally is not completely alienated from society with no-one to contact or interact with in some way.

    I know people in that situation. And even if it’s “far fetched”, numbers add up. If it’s one person in a 1000, that’s 5000 of them in Melbourne right there.

    If you’ve ever tried ringing Lifeline, you generally get an engaged signal. There’s a reason for that.

  10. RobK

    It’s still being “talked through and under active consideration”.
    This strikes me as a comment from a technocrat not a medico.

  11. vlad

    sounds like a COVID dating site

    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    People with partners – who aren’t living together – get a free pass to go as far as they like for an overnight stay.

    But singles are being denied the usual opportunities to meet people and form partnerships in Melbourne and have been for months. And that’s not a problem? Why not?

  12. I’m a bit doubtful about that in a major city.

    You need to ponder what people consider ‘human contact’; it can mean different thing to different people.

  13. vlad

    Never seeing an unmasked face is taking its psychological toll on some people. Anyone who finds this “far fetched” needs to work on their empathy.

  14. notafan

    Being single and working from home in lockdown.

    Sutton’s had seven months to think about mental health.

    Filed in don’t care basket.

    Bubbled pfft

  15. min

    Even couples locked up without seeing other people are not caring so well . I have friends in this situation , younger than I , who are exhibiting signs of depression .

  16. Watch Your Back

    We don’t have a lockdown here. Even so, I spend most of my time on my own.
    There are advantages: no Sheilas nagging and scolding, The only people I talk to are bar staff.

    I can see this becoming a lifestyle choice for many in the future. If you still need sex, there’s a good choice of rare video clips, and devices for the ladies.

  17. A reader

    Under consideration isn’t good enough. Socialist distancing is killing people.

  18. John A

    A reader #3565322, posted on August 30, 2020 at 2:41 pm

    Under consideration isn’t good enough. Socialist distancing is killing people.

    Remember, Bernard Woolley explained those terms as follows:
    Under consideration means we’ve lost the file. Under active consideration means we’re trying to find it.”

  19. Tel

    The only way the Chiefly Chief Official Health Officer can properly put this under active consideration is if he is locking in solitary for about four weeks … for his own good of course … because empathy.

    Yup, empathy is the reason we much lock him up. He will come out a better person all round … you know it makes sense.

  20. Tom

    Do these people not have friends or family with whom they can chat on the phone?

    Roberto, from the sounds of it, you’re one of the Victorian collectivists who installed Dictator Dan to reign over us in 2014 and 2018. Being imprisoned in your home when your only contact with the outside world is chatting with people on the phone is not a lifestyle outside of fascist hellholes like China.

    You weren’t to know in 2018 that Dictator Dan had secretly sold his — and Victoria’s — soul to the Chinese Communist Party which ruthlessly imprisons dissenters, but I gather you approve.

  21. Let’s get Sutton, Chant and Co. sectioned.

    They’re mad with power.

  22. John snowy Bowyer

    Sutton & Andrews are disgusting human beings. Note they will soon have a law to protect them from pensioners like me so they do not have to have their feelings hurt! Whilst they make millions of peoples lives a misery. I also enjoy women who seem to really revel in lock down? Tut tutting, wagging fingers and reminding everyone it is for our own good.
    Who should I murder first? Ooops I cannot help myself.
    I just hope that the hunchback or the mysterious medico (Can we get no dirt on him?) or any family member do not get the dreaded virus that causes the common cold that I assume we have all had at some time or other.

  23. Real Deal

    “Under active consideration”. What a load of management speak waffle. These people are fools. Masters of language and communication they are not. They have no right to play with people’s lives like this.

    May there be a reckoning after this of all the liars, obfuscators and power drunk flunkies and may they be dealth with as they have dealt with us. Cruelly. I suppose that comment will garner a visit from 3 cars full of community minded cops.

  24. iamok

    My partner is literally suicidal. If she does manage to do so there will be serious consequences for the many who have sold this total shit hole out totally. At all levels. She is in psych care but at home BTW.

    What is clear and has been for some time to anyone with a minute degree of objectivity and even less common sense is that these fucking dogs do not care one shit about the masses. We are collateral damage in their rise to and abuse of power, nothing more nothing less.

  25. Roberto

    Tom
    #3565484, posted on August 30, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Roberto, from the sounds of it, you’re one of the Victorian collectivists who installed Dictator Dan to reign over us in 2014 and 2018. Being imprisoned in your home when your only contact with the outside world is chatting with people on the phone is not a lifestyle outside of fascist hellholes like China.

    You weren’t to know in 2018 that Dictator Dan had secretly sold his — and Victoria’s — soul to the Chinese Communist Party which ruthlessly imprisons dissenters, but I gather you approve.

    I live in NSW, not Victoria, a fact for which I am very grateful. If I did live in Victoria, I most certainly wouldn’t be voting for the ghastly Dictator Dan. I think what’s going on there is appalling. I wouldn’t be surprised if incalcitrant subjects aren’t soon being charged with lack of respect and love for the Dear Leader.

    I was merely responding to the complaint being made in the original post of “no human contact for 4 weeks so far” by pointing out that a phone call to a friend or family member would fix that problem instantly.

  26. Damon

    The only people who welcome solitude are hermits and Trappist monks.

  27. Eyrie

    Perhaps it’s a lady trying to set up something with the Sutton chap who is supposed to be some kind of chick magnet.

    I thought he was a foggat?

  28. rickw

    It’s still being “talked through and under active consideration”.

    How many months into this clusterfuck you built and you’re still talking about it?

    Dumb as a bag of hammers is our Brett.

  29. Ceres

    Love the above comments about the smirking Sutton who refers to himself as Bretty when congratulating Magda’s ad. He’s despicable, as Notafan points out he’s had 7 months to consider mental health but he’s too busy looking up himself as sexy Sutton. Totally unsuited, wasn’t on the ballot paper but powerdrunk with own importance. Body language and demeanour shows how flippant this mongrel is. Shameful and obviously under Dan’s thumb.

  30. Gumnuts

    Yesterday at The supermarket I tried an experiment, I tried to establish eye contact with anyone. Every shopper I saw I looked at their face for five seconds. Not one met my gaze, out of fifty or so attempts.

  31. Candy

    The Sutton fellow looks dissipated. Of course he is tired but it looks dissipation to my mind, in my opinion. Premier Andrews looks tired but a healthful person. Just an observation as they are in media so much.

  32. Rohan

    iamok
    #3565560, posted on August 30, 2020 at 5:17 pm

    Hang in there iamok. Lost my Aunt to depression 3 years back. I hope things work out.

  33. Rohan

    This prick Sutton has no solution to this, same as dickhead Dan.

    My father turns 80 in 3 weeks and at this rate he’ll be celebrating it alone at home. I won’t be able to drive up the hume with a decent bottle of wine to share over a steak dinner on the BBQ. Of all the problems I’m dealing with at the moment, this one hurts the most by far. There’s very few cases in my area and I’m following the rules.

    We’be lost our humanity in all this.

    Fuck you dickhead Dan. Selfish arrogant Communist cvnt.

  34. strayandrongo

    I’m in a similar situation. My mum lives 9kms away so have been able to catch up with her halfway and have a walk on the weekend but that’s all. I must say that living alone during this had been incredibly difficult, I’m in a one room apartment, that was fine when I could use the gym, the pool and eat at the pub next door. Now it’s a nightmare. Anyway at least my family and I are still healthy and able to work, I guess it’s irrational how glim it all seems.

  35. strayandrongo

    Roberto I think you underestimate what is like to not speak with someone face to face for months.

  36. Roberto

    strayandrongo
    #3565987, posted on August 30, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Roberto I think you underestimate what is like to not speak with someone face to face for months.

    Hasn’t it been only 4 weeks?

    And I don’t underestimate how bleak it must be. But friends of mine in Melbourne who are solo dwellers seem to have found ways around the rules so that they can still meet with other people. Those who live within 10km of another friend have done as you do, and meet half-way for a walk. One has started walking with a neighbour who is also solo.

    Others have taken up donating blood; it’s an acceptable reason to leave the house. Plasma’s even better, because you can donate fortnightly. They co-ordinate their appointment times at the Blood Bank and then they can enjoy the post-donation refreshments together.

    And others have started volunteering at their parish soup kitchen, making meals for the homeless. It gets them out of the house and allows them to catch-up with fellow parishioners, while serving a very good purpose at the same time.

    I’m sure there are other ways too.

  37. Rabbi Putin

    I hope we can revive that old Menzies referendum with a slight adjustment: it is time to ban the Labor Party. All the old red-scare warnings have turned out to be true, but the scope of suspicion was far too narrow. The entirity of the Labor Party need to be outlawed as a party of anti-democratic traitors. I’ll begrudgingly allow the DLP to continue to exist.

    Read the wiki article on the 1951 referendum and tell me where Pig-Iron Bob was wrong when he tried to warn Australians.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_Australian_Communist_Party_ban_referendum

  38. I don’t know what the problem is. My cat -Fatso – is a brilliant conversationalist.
    Just last night we talked for an hour about the pros and cons of reuniting East and West Germany.
    Does “Rowr!” mean yes or no?

  39. iamok

    Thanks Rohan. This whole situation is fucked beyond repair. Hang in folks it’s going to be bumpy.

  40. Angus Black

    The solution is not to give in to depression, but to overthrow dictatorial, repressive and dysfunctional government.

    You’re adults. Take back control of your lives!

  41. HP

    The number are “too high” to end the lockdown, according to the CMO. They need to first come down to “controllable levels”.

    When to lift the lockdown, depends on your contact tracing capacity. At the moment you lift the lockdown, you are relying on contact tracing to find asymptomatic cases and supress any spreading of the inevitable outbreaks. So the timing of the end of the lockdown is determined by the number of new daily COVID cases you contact tracing can handle.

    The more competent the Vic Govt are at contact tracing, the earlier we can open up the state.

    On the other hand, if the competency is zero, the number of new daily cases you can handle is zero.

    Preferring eradication over suppression and containment, in that sense is confirming the utter incompetency of the Vic govt.

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