The Chicken Little virus

New CDC report says 94% of COVID deaths had underlying conditions, only 6% died from COVID alone. Here is the entire article although you can find more data at the link.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a new report detailing how many COVID-19 deaths in America also involved other underlying health conditions.

According to the report, only 6% of the COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. list COVID-19 as the only cause of death. 94% of COVID-19 deaths involved at least one other underlying health condition, and on average involved “2.6 additional conditions or causes of death.”

The new report on the CDC’s website states:

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.

The CDC listed the top underlying medical conditions linked to coronavirus deaths as:

  • Influenza and pneumonia
  • Respiratory failure
  • Hypertensive disease
  • Diabetes
  • Vascular and unspecified dementia
  • Cardiac Arrest
  • Heart failure
  • Renal failure
  • Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events
  • Other medical conditions

According to the CDC, 9,683 people have died in the United States having only COVID-19 listed on their death certificate as cause of death. At the time the CDC report was released, 161,392 deaths had been attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S.

You can also read more on this here: SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers – Only 9,210 Americans Died From COVID-19 Alone – Rest Had Different Other Serious Illnesses, and here: Remember that thing called the Covid Pandemic? You just won’t read it in The Age or see it mentioned on our ABC.

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24 Responses to The Chicken Little virus

  1. Annie says:

    Why am I not surprised by this? However, I don’t expect this to be noised abroad by the anti-Trump brigade.

  2. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld says:

    Now we needs some facts and truthfulness from the PM and State leaders here in Australia. We have been continually lied to and facts are hidden. We also need to know where the so called hot spots are. Here on the Gold Coast if someone has an infection 60kms away we are not told. Constant cover ups since day one.

  3. Cardimona says:

    Snap, Steve; I posted on this, too, on my Qld state election blog.
    I was inspired by a comment yesterday from Cohenite, IIRC.

  4. H B Bear says:

    Can anyone die of old age nowadays?

  5. Michael says:

    Don’t get to over excited.
    A solid outbreak of COVID does cause a real increase in mortality, whatever cause they choose to put on the death certificate.
    You just have to look at the European mortality stats
    Doesn’t mean that strong shutdowns are the proportionate respone.

  6. Roger says:

    You just won’t read it in The Age or see it mentioned on our ABC.

    Or, more damningly, by CMOs/CHOs or political leaders.

    What are the local figures?

    And what about people who’ve died because they’ve been denied access to treatement due to the closure of public hospital clinics, operating theatres and state borders?

    Mark my words – Palaszczuk, Miles (QLD Health Minister) & Young and the health bureaucracy they preside over will be responsible for more deaths in Qld in 2020 than covid-19.

  7. cuckoo says:

    If it’s found that George Floyd had covid in his system, will he be counted as a covid fatality?

  8. cuckoo says:

    Mark my words – Palaszczuk, Miles (QLD Health Minister) & Young and the health bureaucracy they preside over will be responsible for more deaths in Qld in 2020 than covid-19.

    Responsible, yes. Held to account, no.

  9. pat says:

    29 Aug: NYT: Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.
    The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.
    By Apoorva Mandavilli
    Instead, new data underscore the need for more widespread use of rapid tests, even if they are less sensitive.
    “The decision not to test asymptomatic people is just really backward,” said Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, referring to the C.D.C. recommendation.
    “In fact, we should be ramping up testing of all different people,” he said, “but we have to do it through whole different mechanisms.”…

    In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.
    On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing…

    In Massachusetts, from 85 to 90 percent of people who tested positive in July with a cycle threshold of 40 would have been deemed negative if the threshold were 30 cycles, Dr. Mina said. “I would say that none of those people should be contact-traced, not one,” he said.

    Other experts informed of these numbers were stunned.
    “I’m really shocked that it could be that high — the proportion of people with high C.T. value results,” said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. “Boy, does it really change the way we need to be thinking about testing.”
    Dr. Jha said he had thought of the PCR test as a problem because it cannot scale to the volume, frequency or speed of tests needed. “But what I am realizing is that a really substantial part of the problem is that we’re not even testing the people who we need to be testing,” he said.

    The number of people with positive results who aren’t infectious is particularly concerning, said Scott Becker, executive director of the Association of Public Health Laboratories. “That worries me a lot, just because it’s so high,” he said, adding that the organization intended to meet with Dr. Mina to discuss the issue…
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

  10. Karabar says:

    If you visit Vernon Coleman’s blog, he breaks down the numbers in the UK for deaths caused by the flu, by lower respiratory issues, and dementia in years past.
    That number is fairly constant unitl 2020.
    In 2020 there is a huge drop in that figure.
    But just by sheer coincidence, the number of ‘covid’ deaths in 2020 is nearly the same.
    Imagine that!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cc-N8bkaYs

  11. Lee says:

    I’d like to know the comparable figures for Victoria.
    Even the muppet Sutton admits the Victorian deaths include those who died with Covid, not of it.

  12. John A says:

    cuckoo #3566506, posted on August 31, 2020, at 2:07 pm

    If it’s found that George Floyd had covid in his system, will he be counted as a covid fatality?

    No, because change of rules to move goalposts.
    /Cynic OFF

  13. Matt says:

    This doesn’t mean what you all think it means.

  14. Ceres says:

    This factual data should be headline news everywhere, but of course it isn’t. Should be mandatory to convey whether people died WITH the virus or OF it. How many were in palliative care? Doesn’t suit the narrative of the hysterical fear mongers like Andrews and his lapdog Sutton who take the stage with a performance of the latest numbers which will justify stage 4 lockdown till the cows come home.

  15. Tim Neilson says:

    This doesn’t mean what you all think it means.

    You mean it doesn’t mean that COVID 19 is primarily fatal to people with serious pre-existing health problems and less likely to be fatal to younger people in good health?
    Wow, thanks for letting me know.

  16. Baa Humbug says:

    Matt
    #3566533, posted on August 31, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    This doesn’t mean what you all think it means.

    What do you think we ALL think it means?

    I think it means healthy people, especially the young, should never have been subjected to totalitarian dictates by wannabe dictators and musty cardigan wearing, cucumber sandwich chomping “experts” who crave the attention they never got as ugly unlikable incel teenage nerds.

    To save future generations, I demand we bring back stirring, teasing and mild to medium bullying.
    Social animals need all that.

  17. Lizzi55 says:

    Can reasonably assume the 6% also applies to Victorian deaths. Taking today’s numbers:

    Deaths “from covid” in Vic = 565 x 0.06 = 34

    80% of cases are asymptomatic so number of cases = 19080 x 5 x 95400

    Death rate “from covid” is 34 / 95400 x 100 = 0.035 %

    In other words three times more harmless than influenza (0.1%)

  18. sfw says:

    When (if) Trump wins in November most of this wuflu crap will die away, it’s been pounced on by the left as a tool to defeat their biggest enemy. A few would be tyrants like Kim Il Dan are making the most of it while they can. There will be a reckoning in the US, maybe not here unless we can get a decent federal gov to really look at all aspects of the virus in Australia, and that won’t happen because they all in it up to their ears.

  19. MrZee says:

    And of the 6% what percentage of that was over 90? ie frail? What percentage over 80, over 70, over 60? These figures are important to know too. I suspect the disease is not what it’s been sold as.

  20. This doesn’t mean what you all think it means.

    Yes it does.

    94 + 6 = 100

  21. Le Chiffre says:

    Australian SCAM

    Cases of Flu down by 99.8% !

    – Select Disease by Month and Year – Influenza
    Meanwhile Covid deaths happen to sky-rocket ….yeah sure

  22. Kneel says:

    “This doesn’t mean what you all think it means.”

    Exactly.
    What it means is that in the USA, where states get federal funding for each COVID1984 case, medical staff have been “encouraged” to misrepresent cause of death so the state can extort more money from the feds.

    However, given that we see similar numbers in Europe, the UK et al, it’s certainly reasonable to question the status here too. No doubt we will be told about “worlds best practice” and so on – ye olde “we only done what all those o/s people did!”.

    Trust but verify – IOW, I believe you believe it, now I want you to show me the evidence.

  23. pat says:

    behind paywall:

    28 Aug: UK Times: All children who died of Covid-19 were already seriously ill
    by Rhys Blakely, Science Correspondent
    No child who was not already profoundly ill has died of Covid-19 in Britain, a large study has indicated, with the researchers saying that the results should reassure parents as a new school term begins.
    The study looked at 260 hospitals in England, Wales and Scotland. Out of the 69,500 patients admitted with proven Covid-19 in the first six months of the year, 651 — or 0.9 per cent — were under 19 years of age.

    Six deaths of minors were recorded. Three were newborn babies with other severe health problems. The other three were aged 15 to 18 years old and also had “profound health issues”.

    Calum Semple, professor in child health and outbreak medicine at the University of Edinburgh, who is the senior author of the study, said…
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/all-children-who-died-of-covid-19-were-already-seriously-ill-jlxr8mkxq

    28 Aug: STV Scotland: ‘Children not put at direct harm going back to school’
    The study, published in The BMJ, is the largest in the world examining children hospitalised with Covid-19.
    They stressed the absolute risk to children being admitted to hospital is “tiny” and the risk of needing critical care is “even tinier”…

    Six children died in the study, all of whom had “profound comorbidities”.
    “Severe disease is rare and death is vanishingly rare,” said Calum Semple, professor of child health and outbreak medicine at the University of Liverpool…
    The new study, published in The BMJ, examined data on children and young people admitted to hospital with Covid-19 across England, Wales and Scotland…

    Separately, Professor Athimalaipet Ramanan, consultant paediatric rheumatologist at Bristol Royal Hospital for Children, told a Royal Society of Medicine webinar that persistent fever and abdominal pain are “key presenting features” of the syndrome and should “not be ignored and should get medical attention”.

    He said studies to date have shown most children respond well to intravenous immunoglobulin and steroids as treatment, and added his voice to the reassurance about children returning to school.
    He said: “I think the benefits of children going to school significantly outweigh any tiny risk.”…

    When asked about the number of black children admitted to critical care, Prof Semple said: “The fundamental issue here is that we did not have any deaths in otherwise healthy school-aged children.
    “So, a black completely healthy child, no risk at all.
    “In fact, the deaths that we did observe, where children are what we would describe as profound comorbidities – not a touch of asthma, not cystic fibrosis, these were children with profound comorbidities which, in normal circumstances would lead you to think that these children had existing life-limiting conditions
    “So that that’s the sort of the key feature here is that Sars coronavirus is not causing death in children.

    Prof Semple said the study was a “gargantuan” effort on behalf of NHS staff, with around 3,000 nurses and medical students from 216 hospitals filling in paper-based reports and manually uploading them to the study team.
    https://news.stv.tv/scotland/children-not-put-at-direct-harm-going-back-to-school-by-covid-19

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