GoFund Zoe Buhler

UPDATE II: Andrew Bolt has revealed that the GoFundMe page was taken down because Jordan Buhler had received death threats.

The great irony, of course, is that Jordan Buhler could hardly call Victoria Police to get them to investigate the death threats.

UPDATE I: REGRET PAGE IS TEMPORARILY CLOSED. AWAIT DEVELOPMENTS

Jordan Buhler – Zoe’s brother – has set up a GoFundMe page.

Hi everyone, as you all know my pregnant sister Zoe lee has gone viral due to police coming into her home and arresting her in front of her kids due to her creating a post saying she wanted to raise awareness for Mental health issues and suicide awareness during these hard times, she said she wanted to meet with face masks and social distancing, she was then dealt a warrant and arrested and told that she could be facing 4-15 years in jail for a post !! All money raised will go straight to Help Zoe lee pay her legal fees Thank you

Please give generously – this is a very worthy cause.

This is a line in the sand moment. Zoe was arrested for incitement (!) because her planned protest allegedly would violate an order given by an official. A bureaucrat – someone who was not elected to any public office, yet has the power to make law by decree with no Parliamentary or Judicial oversight.

Let’s be very clear: arresting a person for planning a protest against the government is a violation of every political and legal norm known to us. It is a violation of every Human Rights document or treaty the Australian government has ever signed. It is even a violation of the the Victorian Labor Party’s very own – but rather toothless – Victorian Charter of Human Rights.

This is what Craig Kelly has said:

On Facebook, the Liberal party backbench MP Craig Kelly shared the video, saying it was “what you’d expect to see in Nazi Germany.”

“Every politician that voted for laws that allows a pregnant mother to be handcuffed for a Facebook post (that criticises government policy) stands condemned for eternity,” he wrote.

Funny that – this is what the Police said:

She said police had taken the handcuffs off and had explained to her at the police station that they were just doing their job.

Just doing their job.

Here is Caroline Overington:

I stand with Dan … on people’s necks.

She lives in a state where children are being forced into homeschooling; where there’s an 8pm curfew; where you can’t even go to the supermarket with your husband to buy your groceries, because that’s breaking the law; where you can’t go anywhere without a mask.

She’s being arrested for posting on Facebook.

It’s dictatorial, undemocratic, and dangerous. You can accept and support the lockdown. You can be in favour of saving as many lives as possible. You should still be opposed to cuffing anyone for posting about an upcoming protest on Facebook.

Great line by Michael O’Brien:

The government holds up a red card when it comes to people protesting against Daniel Andrews, but they roll out the red carpet when it’s Black Lives Matter protesters.

Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius says:

I won’t apologise for holding selfish people to account for serious breaches of the public health orders.

Astonishing. This from his bio:

A qualified solicitor and barrister, AC Cornelius’ first appointment with Victoria Police was as Commander, Legal Services Department.

He was promoted to Assistant Commissioner, in charge of the Ethical Standards Department (now called Professional Standards Command), in 2005. 

His distinguished service to policing, both federally and in Victoria, was officially recognised in the 2010 Australia Day Honours when he was awarded the Australian Police Medal (APM) for contribution to police reform, the promotion of ethics and integrity in policing, human rights, engagement with vulnerable communities and for capacity building in East Timor.

Emphasis added.

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149 Responses to GoFund Zoe Buhler

  1. Ubique

    Sure, just doing their job, just following orders. It’s known as the Nuremberg defence, but I guess there’s maybe no one in VicPol with the education or the interest to know what that is.

  2. Hay Stockarsd

    It is a line in the sand. Oh, and defund VivPsol.

  3. C.L.

    Then get another job, dickheads.

  4. stevem

    Protest corona in Victoria, face up to 15 years jail. Protest corona in Hong Kong 10 years jail.

  5. Anonandon

    V for Vendetta speech

    “Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of the everyday routine, the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration – whereby those important events of the past, usually associated with someone’s death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, are celebrated with a nice holiday – I thought we could mark this November the fifth, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn’t there?Cruelty and injustice…intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance, coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who’s to blame? Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told…if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn’t be? War. Terror. Disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you and in your panic, you turned to the now High Chancellor Adam Sutler. He promised you order. He promised you peace. And all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.Last night, I sought to end that silence. Last night, I destroyed the Old Bailey to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than four hundred years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice and freedom are more than words – they are perspectives. So if you’ve seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek…then I ask you to stand beside me, one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament. And together, we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever, be forgot!”

  6. Infidel Tiger King

    The Victorian and Australian Government should monitor what is being said about them on Twitter and overseas media.

    No one outside Australia can believe what a fascist shithole this country really is.

  7. billie

    I’m sure the state will be consistent in its policy and arrest and charge anyone inciting to protest against government decrees

    like, taxi driver perhaps, complaining about Uber (etc) being allowed to trade here

    what’s different?

    are we going to nitpick about which people or groups get done for anti government activity?

    nope, not a hope after arresting a pregnant woman for a facebook post

    anything less now is gross hypocrisy

    ..how did they hear about her facebook post? my guess is she was doxxed

  8. C. H. Luke

    Saying it’s your job doesn’t make it right

  9. Minority Report… convicted before you do the act….

  10. Tom

    The Fat Controller: “Yeah this looks bad. Oh well, shut up and do as you’re told.”

  11. John A

    Funny that – this is what the Police said:

    She said police had taken the handcuffs off and had explained to her at the police station that they were just doing their job.

    Befhel ist befhel, of course.

  12. Michel Lasouris

    Does anyone recall Albanese’s dismissive comment when a Truck convoy to express no confidence” in the Gillard/Rudd/Shorton menagerie descended on Canberra. I recall his snide remark about the truckies being of NO CONSEQUENCE””
    Just what one would expect from a Labour/Left wing/Socialist anti Australian cadre.And in Andrews case a Commie
    Remember this next election…..Lest we Forget

  13. Yes, videos on YouTube from overseas media about Australia’s draconian rules are becoming commonplace. The references to Australia being worse than North Korea is not unusual. We have become the laughing stock of the democratic world.

  14. Delta

    Please give generously – this is a very worthy cause.

    I could agree more – have donated.

  15. vr

    Sinc — You should tweet this link to Rita Panahi, Andrew Bogut & co. Might bring some international attention.

  16. Arnost

    Contrast this image on how the Police treat politically correct protests during COVID restrictions:

    https://quadrant.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Cops-kneel.png

    Should be a part of the main post tbh. I reckon it’ll get a lot of hits in the next day or two…

  17. Leigh Lowe

    His distinguished service to policing, both federally and in Victoria, was officially recognised in the 2010 Australia Day Honours when he was awarded the Australian Police Medal (APM) for contribution to police reform, the promotion of ethics and integrity in policing, human rights, engagement with vulnerable communities and for capacity building in East Timor.

    Oh, and also waved through the most unethical and illegal miscarriage of justice in Australia’s history.
    Was he hoping for “an intimate encounter” for his efforts.

  18. Marcus Decius Cornelious

    I stand with Zoe. I’ve donated.

    First they came for Alex Jones…. and i did nothing. Then they came for a gay jew (Milo) and I did nothing. Then the mass deplatforming of political debate, and we could do nothing but watch in horror.

    Now nakedly and ludicrously selective politically driven one-sided law enforcement, ripping the rule of law, freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom to peaceful protest political policies to absolute shreds in Australia.

    This is my line, i stand with Zoe.

  19. Leigh Lowe

    Up to $6,800.
    What is the fine for (ahem) “incitement”.

  20. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger King

    #3570440, posted on September 3, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    The Victorian and Australian Government should monitor what is being said about them on Twitter and overseas media.

    Apparently Dan Xi-Man “hasn’t seen the video”.
    Come on, man!
    The cause is just, right?
    He should be proud of himself.
    Why so humble?

  21. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    I won’t apologise for …

    … hanging those I consider responsible for this obscenity by their necks until they’re dead, prior to sticking their heads on pikes outside the erstwhile parliament in Spring St (pour encourager les autres).

    Four to fifteen years in gaol for a farcechook post, FFS.

    This stupid, stupid country.

    I stopped considering myself an australian many, many years ago. Emigration (if the fascist arseholes ever deign to allow us out of this stinking shithole) is looking more and more like the only sensible option.

  22. Up The Workers!

    That’s funny…I thought that the VicPol “Ethical Standards Department”, like its “Office of Police Integrity”, were both disbanded when it was discovered that the organisation was as utterly bereft of “Ethical Standards” as it is of “Integrity”.

    Recent events prove my point far more eloquently than mere words ever could.

    Yet another spectacular failure from the same vile mob who brought you the “Get Pell Squad” which “Carl Beeched” the innocent Cardinal George Pell into prison for 405 days on bogus charges and then lacked the common decency to apologise for their gross incompetence, pay millions in compensation or charge the over-auditioned and rehearsed thespian gillarder who laid the bogus charges in the first place.

  23. Neon

    My family used to think I was mad, banging on about slippery slopes and social engineering.

    I see the doubt creeping now into the beliefs they once had. That is a positive from this abohernt act.

    Donated as well.

  24. Roger

    I won’t apologise for holding selfish people to account for serious breaches of the public health orders.

    Note how he throws the gratuitous character judgment in there for good measure.

    What a turd.

  25. Rob MW

    Funny that – this is what the Police said:

    She said police had taken the handcuffs off and had explained to her at the police station that they were just doing their job.

    Presumably the ‘She’ copper took money for doing the job. I criminal circles that is called what ?

    Financial, moral and ethical corruption are all the same with one major thing in common, the perpetrators have no shame and even less conscience. Victorian police are no better than ANTIFA, gutless pricks with no sense of ethics or morality, but, they get paid to do it by the likes of Dan Commieman or Soros. Makes no difference.

  26. A Lurker

    An interesting development – The Australian newspaper have pulled all comments from the two featured articles about what happened to Zoe Buhler yesterday.

  27. Brian of Moorabbin

    IIRC, he was known by many, many, MANY people within VicPol as ‘Clancy‘….

    Just saying…

  28. thefrollickingmole

    Heres a thought that might get some traction and cause some angst among our “betters”.

    Lets petition Scomo for the removal of AC Cornelius’ police medal.

    If the man who headed ethics while Gobbo was giving gob jobs to crooks and cops.
    2005 to 20010 (when he got the medal)
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/informer-3838-timeline-of-a-scandal-26-years-in-the-making-20190206-p50w3q.html

    1995: Becomes an informer
    Gobbo is first registered as a police informer. It is not until 10 years later that she is officially given the pseudonym Informer 3838.


    2010: Compensation from police
    Gobbo sues Victoria Police and is paid $3 million in a confidential agreement after claiming her handling by police was negligent and stress-inducing.

    2012: Police review use of Informer 3838
    Current Police Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton is said to have instigated a review of the force’s handling of Informer 3838, which is conducted by former chief Neil Comrie and leads to the disbandment of the human source unit that dealt with her.

    Its about time some of these insulated slobs started to see a consequence or 2 from their fuckery.
    He was in charge of “ethics” during a period where he must have had personal knowledge of Gobbos use and abuse as a police informant & double dealer to crooks.

    He gets a tongue up the fundament from the Australian…

    High-ranking Victoria Police officer Luke Cornelius’s stunning take-down of the “tin foil hat brigade” last Friday was not the first time the straight-talking cop has won the public’s hearts and minds.

    Renowned for his tough stance on crime and ability to tell it how it is, Assistant Commissioner Cornelius’s strong rebuke of planned anti-lockdown protests at a press conference earned him praise across the globe.

    But not only that. It resonated strongly with colleagues in one of the toughest years the force has faced.

    One senior Victoria Police officer said there was no “police speak”; he spoke normally and his message was straight to the point.

    He said Mr Cornelius had taken a “tough on crime” approach in North West Metro since taking over as assistant commissioner in April 2019, and was focused on driving down offending across the region.

  29. Up The Workers!

    Looks to me like the porky Luke Cornelius has been “working out” in the same gym that Labor’s former Chief Commissioner Nixon spent so much time in…”Donuts Gym”.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    Welcome back Brian!!

  31. Leigh Lowe

    Brian of Moorabbin

    #3570534, posted on September 3, 2020 at 1:30 pm

    IIRC, he was known by many, many, MANY people within VicPol as ‘Clancy‘….

    Just saying…

    Another Plod I know refers to him as “Planet Cornelius”.

  32. Roger

    It would appear Zoe has “got her mind right” now.

  33. Win

    Only in Dan Andrews Victoria could Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius arrest people because they are “ selfish”. Quite the buzz word The prison guard and his henchmen use to smudge the lines of their vicious activities.

  34. the not very bright Marcus

    ” I haven’t seen the video ” ….. tells all about the man ..

  35. Brian of Moorabbin

    Leigh Lowe
    #3570541, posted on September 3, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    Another Plod I know refers to him as “Planet Cornelius”.

    That was another one, yes.

    There are several others, most which would probably be banned by the Spaminator (and probably see me answering a knock at the door at 2am) if I posted them here…

  36. Win

    There was the Spanish Inquisition now we have the Andrews incarceration.

  37. Behind Enemy Lines

    GoFund Zoe Buhler
    Posted on 12:07 pm, September 3, 2020 by Sinclair Davidson
    Jordan Buhler – Zoe’s brother – has set up a GoFundMe page. . . . Please give generously – this is a very worthy cause.

    Done.

    One way or another, this is all going to be very educational.

    If Michael O’Brien or Scott Morrison have a pair of balls between the two of them, they’ll be leading a protest up Bourke Street this Saturday.

  38. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    The Australian newspaper have pulled all comments from the two featured articles about what happened to Zoe Buhler yesterday.

    Lurker – typical gutlessness, more like. Nothing “interesting” about it.

    The social justice wankers who censor the comments there must have had a toddler style meltdown (again).

  39. Rebel with cause

    Adam Smith: “There’s a great deal of ruin in a nation.”

    True. And when you are arresting pregnant mothers for Facebook posts you must be getting close to the bottom.

  40. Slayer of Memes

    the not very bright Marcus
    #3570545, posted on September 3, 2020 at 1:34 pm
    ” I haven’t seen the video ” ….. tells all about the man ..

    Anyone who believes that Denial Andrews’ media advisors hadn’t shown him the video and given him a solid briefing of how to react if the issue was raised (complete with several rehearsals) is probably named mOnty…

  41. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    ” I haven’t seen the video ”

    Bullshit – he’s no doubt been watching it on a loop for at least 10 hours, drooling endlessly while rubbing his paws with glee.

  42. Mater

    Good to hear from you, Brian.

  43. Wallace

    Ballarat has a bit of a reputation for this sort of thing.
    It was only a few streets away from where this proposed gathering was to be that there was a disagreement at Eureka, in 1854.
    Only a few were killed, a bloke called Peter Lalor lost an arm.

  44. John snowy Bowyer

    Anonandon what a great idea! So 5th November this year we should make a demo outside spring street. MSM will applaud Signs saying Fuck Scomo crossed out and Andrews inserted as they did when the old school teachers and their school charges demonstrated. Who can complain? Well anyone who complained about those marches .
    XRebellion had Vicpol standing round for two hours and then doing their job rather than their new proactive model although in the case of forest protestors they still stand around?
    May I suggest Andrews dolls obviously we don’t want to burn them but perhaps literally hanging, drawing and quartering! Penny for the long streak of Chinese piss, about all he is worth!

  45. Marcus Decius Cornelious

    I’m gonna be honest here in this forum of generally like minded individual freedom loving types – I’m scared.

    I seriously don’t know what to do. I’m looking on all around in absolute horror on every front.

    This must have been what it was like in say 1920’s Russia, or 1930’s Germany. The middle class just watching in horror, paralysed with fear. Hoping (a) it will pass and be temporary and go back, and (b) if we just keep our heads down it won’t effect us. Thinking we have too much too lose (wealth, businesses, connections, too old to start over) by taking the risk of fleeing early, just hoping it will all “go back to normal”. Each day we are silent though – just like in Stalin Russia or Nazi Germany – the rot gets worse and worse. Each power grab the totalitarians achieve just leads to the next one, then the next one, then the next one until one day you realise its no longer something that maybe can be resolved via traditional mechanisms of accountability such as elections or courts, but that the slope may truly have completely slipped.

    It’s possibly too late now though -> the game is now baked in. All this stuff will have long term ramifications for society, will effect us and our kids and our grandkids now whatever we do. The naked shredding of the rule of law, erosion of rights, selective one sided politically driven law enforcement, gross economic damage to incentives to save, invest and produce, increasingly arbitrary instability in property rights, the evils of money debasement / money printing inflation etc will all play out over 5-10-20 year timescales, with very high likelihood of end game of seriously bad social unrest (eg socialist revolutions) because, well, in history that is almost* always what this stuff leads too. If we stay, we are staying in a country & state that is going to go through decades of stagnation and decline. The next generation will not live better lives than their parents.

    Other than deer in headlights type paralysis, the main thing staying the decision for action is it does not appear much better anywhere else either unfortunately…..

    I kind feel frozen, paralysed. I continue to just pray it passes, but I am truly getting scared that I don’t think it will, as it gets shockingly worse seemingly every single day.

  46. cuckoo

    On the bright side, Vicpol have “apologised” to us for the Lawyer X scandal, and have promised never to do it again. I mean really, what more could you ask for?

  47. Tom

    What has happened to Victoria Police under Daniel Andrews is culturally identical to the weaponisation of the CIA and FBI under Barack Obama: the illegal transformation of law enforcement into the quasi-military enforcement arm of the ruling party.

    Just like a Third World banana republic.

    Restoration of the the rule of law can’t begin until the ruling party is ousted.

  48. A Lurker

    Marcus Decius Cornelious, look up the Fourth Turning. These times will pass, they always do. In the meantime, buckle yourself in because it will be a bad ride.

  49. Speedbox

    ”I haven’t seen the video ” ….. tells all about the man ..

    Yeah, a preposterous lie. The bloody thing went viral around 6:30 pm last night and by Andrews news conference at around 10:30 am this morning, it had attracted millions of views, global commentary about ‘police state’ etc and almost every Australian news service had it as part of their bulletins since early morning.

    Despite all the publicity, Andrews hadn’t taken the time to see for himself what all the fuss was about. Rubbish. His flunkies would have seen it, advised him, and he would have watched it.

    Alternatively, if by some utter miracle he didn’t watch it for himself, then it shows his complete disregard and disassociation with the reality of his Government’s actions.

    Please yourself – he had seen the video and is a baldfaced liar or, he had not seen the video and is a utterly indifferent to the populace and reputation of the State.

  50. thefrollickingmole

    Marcus Decius Cornelious

    The naked shredding of the rule of law, erosion of rights, selective one sided politically driven law enforcement, gross economic damage to incentives to save, invest and produce, increasingly arbitrary instability in property rights, the evils of money debasement / money printing inflation etc will all play out over 5-10-20 year timescales, with very high likelihood of end game of seriously bad social unrest (eg socialist revolutions) because, well, in history that is almost* always what this stuff leads too.

    Argentina or Venezuela, pick your poison.
    It does feel like its baked in now.
    More mass migration to smash the segment of the population that remembers “old Australia” and vote along ethnic lines, more arbitrarily enforced laws and more cocooning of wealth into economically useless but safe boltholes by the remaining wealthy.
    Not a great outlook.
    All due to hit the day after China decides it doesnt want our iron Ore.

  51. thefrollickingmole

    Marcus Decius Cornelious

    The naked shredding of the rule of law, erosion of rights, selective one sided politically driven law enforcement, gross economic damage to incentives to save, invest and produce, increasingly arbitrary instability in property rights, the evils of money debasement / money printing inflation etc will all play out over 5-10-20 year timescales, with very high likelihood of end game of seriously bad social unrest (eg socialist revolutions) because, well, in history that is almost* always what this stuff leads too.

    Argentina or Venezuela, pick your poison.
    It does feel like its baked in now.
    More mass migration to smash the segment of the population that remembers “old Australia” and vote along ethnic lines, more arbitrarily enforced laws and more cocooning of wealth into economically useless but safe boltholes by the remaining wealthy.
    Not a great outlook.
    All due to hit the day after China decides it doesnt want our iron Ore.

  52. thefrollickingmole

    Marcus Decius Cornelious

    Argentina or Venezuela, pick your poison.
    It does feel like its baked in now.
    More mass migration to smash the segment of the population that remembers “old Australia” and vote along ethnic lines, more arbitrarily enforced laws and more cocooning of wealth into economically useless but safe boltholes by the remaining wealthy.
    Not a great outlook.
    All due to hit the day after China decides it doesnt want our iron Ore.

  53. thefrollickingmole

    Argentina or Venezuela, pick your poison.
    It does feel like its baked in now.
    More mass migration to smash the segment of the population that remembers “old Australia” and vote along ethnic lines, more arbitrarily enforced laws and more coco—oning (FFS spamminator) of wealth into economically useless but safe boltholes by the remaining wealthy.
    Not a great outlook.
    All due to hit the day after China decides it doesnt want our iron Ore.

  54. BrettW

    Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius says:

    “I won’t apologise for holding selfish people to account for serious breaches of the public health orders”.

    No worries at all. He did not hold anybody to account whilst Gobbo and her police handlers were out of control and he was Commander Legal Service and then in 2005 head of Ethical Command. Did not follow what was mentioned about him in the Royal Commission.

    I noted Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius is Victoria Police’s longest serving Assistant Commissioner. A qualified solicitor and barrister, AC Cornelius’ first appointment with Victoria Police was as Commander, Legal Services Department. That was after only 14 years with Fed Police. So he jumped in at Commander based on his legal qualifications and then promoted to Assistant Commissioner, in charge of the Ethical Standards Department (now called Professional Standards Command), in 2005.

  55. Bruce

    “……. they were just doing their job”

    Sounds a LOT like the old Nuremberg Defense.

    I guess since over half a century has passed, they reckon it’s time to start using it again.

    Next thing they’ll be telling us that “Work sets you free”

  56. Adelagado

    I’m loving this. South Australia is usually the butt of jokes in Australia, but but now Victoria has gone a degree better and is the laughing stock of the WHOLE world. How does it feel guys?

  57. the not very bright Marcus

    I thought it might … looks like the go fund me page has been shut down ….same as Izzy’s

  58. Leigh Lowe

    GoFundMe “No Longer Accepting Donations” at $8,618.
    Have the pulled an Issy on them?

  59. Dinky

    A Mornington woman has chained herself to a pole outside station in protest over Zoe’s arrest.

    You know who has shown the most resistance to the restrictions – women.

    The get disparaged as Karens but at least they’re showing some spine.

  60. Terry

    ‘”I haven’t seen the video ” ….. tells all about the man ..’

    Any real Journalist (not the “journalists” of today’s msm) would ask, ‘Really! Why not?’…and then offer to play it for him right there and then on their phone.

    Having your head up your arse is not an excuse Mr Andrews.

    And for the goons in VicPol, neither is ‘I was just doing my job/following orders’.

  61. Dinky

    That should be “to a pole outside a police station” (I need to proof read).

  62. Leigh Lowe

    Can they contact ACL like Issy did?
    Start a new appeal?

  63. Behind Enemy Lines

    I’ve left a message with Victoria’s Leader of the Opposition, Michael O’Brien, encouraging him to lead a protest the day after tomorrow, and invite ScoMo down from Canberra for the day.

    Any politician who doesn’t publicly oppose this, supports it.

    As I’ve said here before, Cats should make sure their second passports are up to date.

    And, yes, the GoF****Me scum have shut down that account.

  64. Robber Baron

    The dross are running the joint.

    A good hard clean out is necessary.

  65. Colour me surprised

    … and GoFundMe has deactivated it after $8,618 was raised.

  66. Speedbox

    “……. they were just doing their job”

    Didn’t work at Nuremburg nor for William Calley after My Lai.

  67. feelthebern

    “……. they were just doing their job”

    Didn’t work at Nuremburg nor for William Calley after My Lai.

    Or Sutton at the COVID trials.

  68. kraka

    went to donate-they’ve deactivated the page-disgraceful

  69. mundi

    ABC have cleansed everything with her name in it.
    Nothing to see here folks

  70. vlad

    ” I haven’t seen the video ” ….. tells all about the man ..

    Others have said it, so snap, but, yes, what it tells me is he’s a liar.

  71. Sinclair Davidson

    The GoFundMe people have not pulled the page. It is closed for other reasons.

  72. Grunter

    Will there will soon be a North Korean delegation travelling to Sictoria to take lessons from Dictator Dan?

  73. cuckoo

    More mass migration to smash the segment of the population that remembers “old Australia”

    Even Adam Creighton, one of the few sane voices in the media over Covid, is saying today that Australia can only recover growth by returning immigration to “normal” levels, which presumably means the previous insanely high levels.

  74. JC

    I’d like to donate, but she has apologised , so there’s no need to mount a big defence. If she hadn’t apologised it would be a different story.

  75. Robbo

    So the Vic Police told Zoe Buhler as they removed her handcuffs they were “just doing their job”. That line was widely used by Nazis in Nuremberg when they were being tried for war crimes. What a great legacy is being created for future generations of police officers in Victoria by AC Luke Cornelius and his fellow toady mates as they ignore whatever principles of freedom and human rights they might have once had to curry favour with their political masters. The once respected Victoria Police Force is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the Labor Party and its incompetent, deceitful and mendacious leader Daniel Andrews. After the disgraceful leadership of the Police when the Force, or should that be Service, was run downhill by Nixon and Overland many of us thought that it could not sink any lower. How little we knew.

  76. Alastair Spate

    Just donated, now the goFund is “deactivated”. Anyone know whatsup?

  77. duncanm

    Dinky
    #3570615, posted on September 3, 2020 at 2:07 pm
    A Mornington woman has chained herself to a pole outside station in protest over Zoe’s arrest.

    You know who has shown the most resistance to the restrictions – women.

    The get disparaged as Karens but at least they’re showing some spine.

    too right.

    One has to remember that the first to arc up against this sort of shit are always the outliers. This time, the Karen’s are leading the way.

  78. areff

    Not to defend The Oz, Monkfish, but sub judice considerations would have seen those comments yanked.

  79. duncanm

    they were just doing their job

    Ok.

    So *who specifically* ordered that these policemen go to her residence, handcuff her, and drag her back to the station?

    Why didn’t that person order them to knock on the door and issue a fine, for example?

  80. vlad

    The GoFundMe people have not pulled the page. It is closed for other reasons.

    You’re among friends, Sinc. You can tell us.

    There are nutters on Twitter who say the whole thing was an inside job (you know, like 9-11 was). They started saying that last night and today’s new stories apparently confirm that opinion. I don’t know what wouldn’t confirm it!

  81. vlad

    I won’t apologise for holding selfish people to account for serious breaches of the public health orders.

    That sounds like sub judice contempt to me.

    And from a barrister too! He should be struck off.

  82. NoFixedAddress

    All you good people so generously donating for worthy causes.

    We have your names and addresses and naturally understand you will wish to make sizable contributions to the Centenary Celebrations next July 21, 2021 in honour of the one true Party, the CCP.

    It is verry good.

  83. BrettW

    JC,
    I listened to her on 3AW. Below are some of their notes from the conversation. She was a bit contradictory and probably mindful she now has trial coming up. However she stood her ground when interviewer asked her to encourage people not to attend protests on Saturday and refused to say what he asked her. The interviewer would make Goebbels proud.

    Ms Buhler streamed the arrest live on Facebook.

    She says she wasn’t aware the protest was illegal.

    “I didn’t realise I was not allowed to do that,” she told Tony Jones.

    “I was aware that the protest coming up in Melbourne wasn’t permitted, but I thought, in Ballarat, we’re in Stage 3 lockdown.

    “I had a bit of a bimbo moment and I actually didn’t realise that it wasn’t okay.”

    But she says she doesn’t regret her actions.

    “I probably wouldn’t change anything to be honest,” she said.

    “If the police had just called me and told me to remove the post I would’ve done so.”

    JC
    #3570650, posted on September 3, 2020 at 2:34 pm
    I’d like to donate, but she has apologised , so there’s no need to mount a big defence. If she hadn’t apologised it would be a different story.

  84. Neon

    I assume the GoFundMe was closed due to apology ?? Admit the error of your ways carrot dangled .

    Hence no need for legal action.

  85. Professor Fred Lenin

    When I was posted to Auschwitz as a guard ,I had a job to do and I followed orders,I do not hate anyone I was just obeying orders given to me by my superiors . The salary was good and the food rations and cheap schnapps and beer ,and it kept me away from the Eastern front where I would be killed or captured by those cruel Russians ,they might ebven kill me . So I feel no guilt , why should I . ?

  86. stevem

    I see the Victorian police assistant commissioner Luke Cornelius is trying himself in logic knots. He says a protest now is nothing like BLM protests as:
    “There were restrictions on it, so the restriction was you can leave home to protest with a group up to 10 people, and in multiple groups, so long as there’s a 100m distance between each of those groups.”

    Funny, everything I saw was nothing like those restrictions. If those were the conditions then surely the protesters would have been charged, not the organisers.

    So *who specifically* ordered that these policemen go to her residence, handcuff her, and drag her back to the station?

    That would appear to be one Senior Sergeant Argall, a Ballarat policeman involved in recruiting gangland barrister turned high-level informer Nicola Gobbo and has admitted he had an “episode of physical intimacy” with her.

  87. Roger W

    Do not just vent here. email or write to or phone the PM, your local Federal MP, or your state MP if in Victoria.
    Swamp them with emails. They do respond to public pressure.

  88. duncanm

    recruiting gangland barrister turned high-level informer Nicola Gobbo

    Is that a new euphemism for fellatio I wasn’t aware of?

  89. calli

    Face it, Cornelius.

    Your guys knelt before your demonstrating masters. Nothing can change that.

  90. Michael Lewis

    Why don’t the reporters at these propaganda sessions, demonstrate? Or make some ant-social action in the tyrant’s face? Whether it be super tyrant Dan or his minions, or lesser tyrant Annastacia. Their normalcy must be removed. Any co-operation must cease. Otherwise, it is just same old….

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Sinclair Davidson
    #3570646, posted on September 3, 2020 at 2:31 pm
    The GoFundMe people have not pulled the page. It is closed for other reasons.

    It was a bit of a moving feast.
    The original target was $250k.
    Then it dropped to $50k.
    Then they put up a message that any excess funds beyond fines and legals would go to suicide support charities.
    Reading between the lines they may have tried to cut off any accusations of profiteering.

  92. Steve

    Seems to me the police have just lovers of freedom, a *huge* service.

    You couldn’t buy negative press any more damaging than this……..

    Now dont orget kids, the CDC is the USA has now come out and said that 94% of “covid deaths” are apparently due to existing medical problems people had before they got covid.

    Game over Dan man……the whole covid thing is now exposed as appearing to be a theatrically-managed psyop……oh dear…..I guess it was “fun” for a few days….

  93. Professor Fred Lenin

    Cornelius is a barrister , so hes smart? Turnbull was a barrister,its not a measure of how good you are ,probably some of the greatest dickheads in history were barristers ,It means a well trained Liar ,I think.

  94. Leigh Lowe

    areff
    #3570654, posted on September 3, 2020 at 2:38 pm
    Not to defend The Oz, Monkfish, but sub judice considerations would have seen those comments yanked.

    areff, are there “sub judice” issues for cases heard before judge alone, or magistrates, where there is no jury to be swayed by public commentary?

  95. Leigh Lowe

    Professor Fred Lenin
    #3570715, posted on September 3, 2020 at 3:34 pm
    Cornelius is a barrister , so hes smart?

    Barrister.
    But not in the $10k a day class by any stretch.
    Years ago Mrs L came home one night having a rant about a dickhead lawyer she was having to deal with in a Gummint Department.
    I simply said that, if they are a lawyer working for an average salary in a Gummint Dept, they are not going to be A-Graders … or even B or C-Graders.

  96. feelthebern

    From Planet Cornelius linkedin.

    Luke holds a Masters of Public Administration: Executive (Monash), an Honours Degree in Law: First Class (Flinders), a Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice (ANU) and is admitted to practice in the ACT Supreme Court.

  97. Wendy Murrell

    So let me get this straight, after 6 months of Covid-19 life a 28 year old woman doesn’t know what stage 3 requirements are in Victoria. However, she knows enough to generate a facebook page AND video herself AND post it online so every screaming complainer can bitch about the police.
    As for gofundme … seems your bro you just want some cash.
    Same woman thought that the police were trying to kidnap her?? Sorry being pregnant isn’t an excuse for being stupid.
    And to all the news outlets who want to jump on this bandwagon, badmouth the police and whinge about lockdown like being in jail … shut up and go spend a week in Long Bay or one of the other Australian prisons … then come out and see if you use that comparison again.
    Grow up Australia, suck it up and for crying out loud help each other.

  98. Gerry

    Cornelius stopped writing a diary whilst head of the Ethical Standards Department. Yep …..it’s all above board in Vic Pol

  99. NoFixedAddress

    Michael Lewis
    #3570707, posted on September 3, 2020 at 3:30 pm

    Why don’t the reporters at these propaganda sessions, demonstrate? Or make some ant-social action in the tyrant’s face? Whether it be super tyrant Dan or his minions, or lesser tyrant Annastacia. Their normalcy must be removed. Any co-operation must cease. Otherwise, it is just same old….

    To ask the question is to answer the question as “reporters” are fiddling kiddies who just want ‘the love’ of the leftist of lefts.

  100. anon

    When I was a member in vicpol, back when catching crooks was a thing, I rarely put cuffs on anyone. Only used them for those who had resisted or looked like they may throw a punch or run off. A few tools used them more than necessary mainly to look tough not because of any fears. Unless it’s changed the vicpol manual state that handcuffs can be used, not must be used. There was discretion.

    What they have morphed into is just embarrassing and dangerous.

  101. P

    The GoFundMe raised $8618 in donations before being deactivated.

    It wasn’t immediately clear why the page was shut down. Under GoFundMe’s Australian terms of service, users are allowed to fundraise for legal fees.

    The exceptions are “for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, serious disabilities or diseases, financial crimes or crimes of deception”.

    http://www.news.com.au

  102. The GoFundMe raised $8618 in donations before being deactivated.

    It wasn’t immediately clear why the page was shut down. Under GoFundMe’s Australian terms of service, users are allowed to fundraise for legal fees.

    It was a $1652 fine. At some point they are just gouging money out of stupid people.

  103. Leigh Lowe

    It was a $1652 fine. At some point they are just gouging money out of stupid people.

    Good afternoon wrongologist.
    I have been trying to find out the precise penalty for “incitement”, but it is way higher than $1652.
    More like $20k plus the possibility of jailtime.
    All so we can keep fat donut munchers safe.
    Plus they have undertaken to donate excess funds to a suicide charity, so …
    .
    PS. How are the Hawks going. Their defenders seem to be social distancing from opposition forwards.

  104. duncanm

    It was a $1652 fine. At some point they are just gouging money out of stupid people.

    that’s assuming you just cop it on the chin.

    Fight it in court and it can get a lot more expensive.

  105. feelthebern

    Their defenders seem to be social distancing from opposition forwards.

    Ew.
    Very low brow.
    I would expect that from a leaguey.

  106. feelthebern

    that’s assuming you just cop it on the chin.

    Err..that’s in NSW.
    In Victoria you bend over.

  107. harrys on the boat

    It was a $1652 fine. At some point they are just gouging money out of stupid people.

    Monty, in the words of Birdy; Borrow a neck tie, visit the ladies and hang yourself. You have no purpose in life. Your existence is an affront to people who want to live life. You fuckwits who enjoy house arrests, lockdowns and curfews need to assess your reason for living, because to the rest of us its fuck all.

  108. JC

    monster

    Get back there. Now! You’re not allowed out of the basement until we tell you to come out. Go on, shoo and make sure the door is closed.

  109. feelthebern

    monty, get back to family guy.

  110. Leigh Lowe

    m0nty
    #3570764, posted on September 3, 2020 at 4:20 pm

    It was a $1652 fine. At some point they are just gouging money out of stupid people.

    Yeah, but nah.
    $1652 is the ‘on the spot’ fine.
    Once arrested and charged on summons (as she was) the penalty is up to $10k, plus costs of defending.

    What are the penalties for non-compliance?
    Victoria Police can issue on the spot fines of up to $1,652 for individuals and up to $9,913 for businesses for:

    Refusing or failing to comply with the emergency directions
    Refusing or failing to comply with a public health risk direction
    Refusing or failing to comply with the Public Health Directions to provide information.
    Fines of up to $20,000 for individuals and $100,000 for businesses are possible through the court system. Individuals who do not wear a face covering and do not have a lawful reason can be fined $200.

    Here, have a rake fatso.

  111. C.L.

    It’s dictatorial, undemocratic, and dangerous. You can accept and support the lockdown. You can be in favour of saving as many lives as possible. You should still be opposed to cuffing anyone for posting about an upcoming protest on Facebook.

    Caroline is confused. She wants to be principled but can’t quite pull it off.
    It’s called a lockdown for a reason. The state is locking you up. So no, one cannot “accept” the lockdown but then protest the assault by police of a pregnant women.

  112. Bob in Castlemaine

    “Just following orders.” Wasn’t that the most popular excuse used by defendants during the Nuremberg war crimes trials following WW2?

  113. Brian of Moorabbin

    Fuck me, mOnty is still unbanned..?

    That’s me out for another 12 months…

  114. Rebel with cause

    Chances of this going to trial are zero. There’s no way Victoria wants to make this a test case. Now the apology has been made the charge will be quietly withdrawn. The State has made its point – it can arrest you anytime, for any reason, if you are even thinking about organising a protest.

  115. Sunbird

    Safety is a state religion in Victoria.
    Has been since the 1970’s when the obsession with road safety started.
    There is no justification in Victoria for any activity that could harm anyone including yourself.
    I don’t understand how people can be so surprised by their coronavirus response. Its was obvious to me 30 years ago when they made bike helmets compulsory (with no serious opposition) that Victoria and ultimately Australia would become an authoritarian nanny state.

  116. Slayer of Memes

    Leftists Today: “OMG ZOE WAS INCITING PEOPLE TO BECOME SUPER-SPREADERS AND KILL GRANDMA IN HER AGED CARE HOME BY PROMOTING THIS PROTEST!!”

    Leftists one month ago: “ANYONE SUGGESTING THAT THE BLM PROTEST COULD CAUSE A SECOND-WAVE OF COVID INFECTIONS IS A DANGEROUS CONSPIRACY THEORIST!!”

    …..

  117. Rafe Champion

    Thanks for showing up Monty.
    No thread is complete without you!

  118. Rokdoktor

    VicPol should change their name to the Thought Police and then issue the fine for “doubleplus ungood crimethink” (plus a session in Room 101, if that doesn’t get her thinking straight…)

    Bastards….

  119. Perfidious Albino

    Planet Cornelius (chortle) is also looking down the barrel of an adverse finding from the Gobbo RC as well according to The Oz. That should definitely be cause enough to launch a campaign to strip him of any service medals and commendations. They don’t like it up ‘em…

  120. Megan

    The fact that absolutely no one in the TOTALLY Useless VicGov or VicPol wants to apologise but instead invokes the Nuremberg defence and, in the Fat Controller’s case doubles down on insults and labels her selfish, is far worse than the actual arrest. And that set a world record, Olympic gold medal, Continental Trench level of low.

    Is this our future? Ruled by disgusting totalitarian deadshits and corrupt political puppets? Victoria is finished as a decent place to live.

  121. Sunbird:

    Has been since the 1970’s when the obsession with road safety started.

    Motorcyclists tried to get the NRMA onside whenn the mandatory helmet laws were touted in NSW, but they reckoned it wasn’t worth their time.
    We pointed out they would be next, “Hohoho” was the reply.

  122. nb

    Megan, #3570869 points out: ‘labels her selfish, is far worse than the actual arrest’.
    Great point. Not even ‘alleged’. The serious delinquency of Mr Cornelius. Let’s wait for the apology of this maestro of morals.

  123. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    sub judice considerations would have seen those comments yanked

    Err, Areff – then why publish them in the first place? The stupid bloody australian does this all the time.

    People waste their time and effort to post comments on that stupid website, only to have them frequently all pulled at the drop of a hat (if they get posted at all) on the dodgy advice of some utterly vile useless arse covering legal parasite.

    Not good enough.

    It is yet another example of the contempt with which the australian treats readership and one of several reasons why I ditched my subscription.

  124. Old Lefty

    Cornelius, ICYMI, was subject to very adverse comment in the submission of counsel assisting, Winneke, to the Lawyer X royal commission ( because of his role in the farcically misnamed Office of Police Integrity when they were running Gobbo as a source). I said ICYMI because, so far as I can tell, only News Ltd has been reporting on this. The Spencer St Soviet and Arseholes Broadcasting Communism seem to be out for a three-week lunch again.

    Mind you, McMurdo is proving pliable to the government that appointed her. She has already said that, although she has the power to do so, she won’t be recommending criminal charges against anyone. And the OPP (that wholly owned subsidiary of the Victorian ALP Socialist Left) has already said that it can’t without a brief of evidence – which presumably would have to come from the police. In other words, a damp squib.

  125. nb

    The Cornelius moral universe:
    The Moral Narcissism of the Radical Left—Roger Simon on Riots & Beyond | American Thought Leaders.
    Roger Simon explained what’s going on in our culture today in his book “I Know Best: How Moral Narcissism Is Destroying Our Republic, If It Hasn’t Already.”

  126. Rockdoctor

    Observation on why cops were nice at the station. After all thats done & the double standards on display ie BLM, sorry I distrust their genuineness. Could it be they by then were aware of the live stream? Even they would have been aware of what was about to be unleashed.

    IMO if O’Brian needs to clean out the whole upper ranks of Vic Pol and overhaul the recruiting process. Thats before they even look elsewhere and if they win…

  127. Perfidious Albino

    If the State Liberals had any ticker, they would be running the line now that when they are elected they will put a broom through the upper echelons of VicPol. They should also have used the appointment of the ‘new’ CCP to make that clear. There is just soooo much form ground to declare you’ve lost confidence in the current leadership.

  128. Rockdoctor

    Add to my last. A referendum requiring 2/3rds parliament to pass a state of emergency in peace time. Andrews is living proof these powers can’t be trusted to them…

  129. so lets see if i got this right. blm have a rally against health orders and thousands turn up. no arrests, no fines. a pregnant women just mentions a rally that has not happened yet and gets hand cuffed. the victorian police force are a bunch of nazie pigs. so do these pigs now expect anyone to feel sorry for them when they get hit by cars like happened months ago. if they are not careful they will end up being hated like american cops.

  130. Dan

    HOW STUPID HAS THE HUMAN RACE GONE?

    We have a global pandemic on our hands and thousands of people are dying. Yet, you are jumping up and down because you can’t leave your house without a mask? Get the F#*@ over yourselves and your “rights”.

    In order to keep EVERYONE as safe and healthy as possible, a State of Emergency was called. And honestly, this is the best thing for everyone. As it showed at the start of the pandemic, people can NOT simply be asked nicely to wear a mask, keep 1.5m apart from others and stay home.
    Therefore it was forced to be made illegal.

    Do NOT forget, it was the PEOPLE who forced our leaders to make this illegal, by your blatant arrogant “I’m not sick so it doesn’t apply to me” bullshit.

    Given that everybody is well aware of what has been happening around with world with the COVID-19 pandemic, how bloody STUPID do you have to be to put people at risk just so you can publicly voice the same frustration we have all been feeling.

    I’m sorry, but Zoe Buhler knew full well what she was doing was illegal, considering that she was planning on protesting the current laws and regulation surrounding COVID in Victoria.

    She deserved to be arrested and the Police were completely justified.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    This should now be the theme song for Dan’s nemesis:

    We’ll be coming out to meet her, we’ll be coming out to greet her,
    She’ll be wearing pink pajamas when she comes!

    All his own work too.
    Known world-wide as a fascist due to pink jamies on a tiny preggers mum. 🙂

  132. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My youngest son is a mild fellow in his thirties with a law degree plus a few others. He has a very good career, is happily married with a young son. For the first time ever he has just got political, which he has never been before, a Labor voter I think in a NSW electorate where every vote counts. He has written letters to his parliamentary representatives about his disgust at the way Victoria and Labor in general is behaving in this pandemic, and particularly about his outrage at the young pregnant mum being so badly treated.

    Our generation can search the internet and see when we are being lied to, he says to his parliamentary representatives. He would be typical of many young fathers, I think.

    In find it interesting that women tend to want to blame Zoe, men want to protect her.

  133. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The great irony, of course, is that Jordan Buhler could hardly call Victoria Police to get them to investigate the death threats.

    I have’nt read backthread yet so maybe this has been discussed –

    Why shouldn’t he ask for police protection? All he was doing was to seek funds for a cause. The cause will come before the law as it should. No different to Peter Ridd seeking funds, imho.

    There is nothing illegal about that, but there is plenty that is illegal about death threats.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Anyone have a link to any of the Outsiders trio to suggest that the ‘pink pajamas’ song might be a good lead-in to the discussion of this arrest on Outsiders? If so, send it on to them just in case they haven’t seen how good a theme it is now for Dan Andrews, if they haven’t thought of it already. Maybe Sinc can send it?

    Satire is the best way to defeat Communism.

  135. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’d like to donate, but she has apologised , so there’s no need to mount a big defence. If she hadn’t apologised it would be a different story.

    JC, the IPA are taking a very different approach to this. QC’s are interested in taking on some aspects of Zoe’s arrest and her rights and the nature of the charges against her. And being labelled ‘selfish’ by a prosecutor before trial has been heard????

    We will donate to the IPA’s appeal.

  136. Sinclair Davidson

    No different to Peter Ridd seeking funds, imho.

    Peter Ridd was seeking money to fight his employer. The Buhler’s are seeking money to protect themselves from the State. Upon receiving death threats they can hardly seek out the State’s protection – afterall it is the State that is persecuting them and the State’s supporters who are threatening them. Like putting the Mafia in charge of the witness protection program.

  137. Harpo

    Dan’s a bright one isn’t he? “A global pandemic, thousands have died”. Somebody tell the dill that about 30 million people have died worldwide from other causes since China sent Tulip19 our way.

  138. Lee

    Dan

    #3571476, posted on September 4, 2020 at 9:18 am

    HOW STUPID HAS THE HUMAN RACE GONE?

    That you, Dan Andrews, or one of his lackeys?

  139. Bronson

    Dickhead Dan wrote, ‘We have a global pandemic on our hands and thousands of people are dying’. How many people dead from wuhan flu in australia? How amny dead from wuhan flu in Victoria? What were their ages? Did they die from or with wuhan flu? How many people have had their lives financially destroyed and will probably never recover? What cost to the overall health of the population from the ‘cure’. You have no idea and seem to thing if you bury your head in senseless and useless regulations it will all be alright because, because……

  140. mindfree

    “Dan” and another moron by the name of Wendy (get that) are treated in another more recent post by Sinclair dedicated just to them – how nice

  141. Lee

    HOW STUPID HAS THE HUMAN RACE GONE?

    Very stupid if it produces sheep like you who bow down to authoritarians unquestioningly, Dan.

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