Wednesday Forum: September 9, 2020

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  1. Steve trickler

    Evening Pete. Vast amounts to consume.



  2. Gab

    Anyone seen Bespoke around lately?

  3. bespoke

    Microsoft Edge is now Google Chromium

    So is Brave.

  4. Cassie of Sydney

    I don’t think JC’s interests lie in that direction.”

    Most definitely not….anyway…I am missing him. Hope to see him soon.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    Bespoke is so last page …

  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bespoke you were missed.
    I also borrowed your sunglasses a couple of times. 😎 thanx

  7. Mark A

    Steve trickler
    #3581350, posted on September 11, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    Ta Steve, beautiful👍😉.

  8. Delta A

    No one missed me?

    Always. 🙂

  9. thefrollickingmole

    Bit of fun in the arvo.
    Couple of fishermen got smacked by a bit of a king wave rockfishing. One ok just cuts and bruises, other poor chap smacked round with open hand fracture, couple of stichable cuts and a possible fractured humerus on the other arm.
    Tough bugger, handled the 30k trip to the airstrip over really crap sand track well. ( plus a dose of morph helps)
    Good result.
    Also RFDS are great….

  10. Delta A

    Bit of fun in the arvo.

    Thank goodness for people like you, Mole.

  11. feelthebern

    I feel sorry for Panthers fans.
    Their hopes are so high.
    They’ll be so disappointed when they don’t make the grand final.

  12. JD

    TG: for the banner. How about Dan Quixote
    Tilting at an imaginary virus and add the bloody windmills for free too. Would be great if you can do a donkey, mop and a pail on the head. And yes, you have the Q in there too. Perfect 🙂

  13. MemoryFault

    Ta Steve, beautiful👍😉.

    Yeah, thanks again, Steve.
    Which reminds me, are you still around, Lizzie?

  14. Leigh Lowe

    Kathy Freeman has broken a world record, that’s the fastest she’s ever run in this race at an event…

    No shit, Brucie.

    Sedation.
    I remember that 2000 telecast of the 400m.
    Freeman was red-hot favourite after the French girl bailed out with (cough) injury.
    She crosses the line.
    Bwuce goes nuts.
    A bit like he did with Ben Johnson in Soeul (but that’s another story).
    Bwuce: “What a champion! What a run! What a night for Australia! What a legend!”
    [Pause].
    Raelene Boyle: “What a relief”.
    One person in the box truly understood the pressure.
    It wasn’t Bwuce.

  15. vlad

    TG: for the banner. How about Dan Quixote

    Or Dan Corleone.

  16. feelthebern

    Raelene Boyle: “What a relief”.

    Wasn’t Jane Flemming ?

  17. Nick

    Faulty!!! You’re alive ?? What happened to your predictions ?

  18. Gab

    Now, now, vlad, no need to besmirch the Mafia like that.

  19. feelthebern

    I was there that night.
    Pole vault final.
    Lots of other good shit too.

  20. vlad

    It wasn’t Bwuce.

    I haven’t heard him in years. If he’s on, the sound is off. It’s that simple.

  21. Nick

    One person in the box truly understood the pressure.

    He expressed his love of Cox (of Collingwood) the other day

  22. Cassie of Sydney

    Hard to believe the Sydney Olympics was twenty years ago.

  23. vlad

    Now, now, vlad, no need to besmirch the Mafia like that.

    The difference between the Mafia and the ALP is the Mafia has principles.

  24. feelthebern

    I was on the back straight two rows from the front.
    Near the sand pit for the long jump.

  25. Knuckle Dragger

    Liability Bob:

    ‘the USA is in deep dodo.’

    What? It went extinct in 1681?

  26. MemoryFault

    Elon Musk’s AI, GPT-3 in action.

    Damn you, Zippy.
    I can see myself wasting a goodly part of tomorrow playing with that.

  27. zyconoclast

    A 16-year-old transgender girl whose mother opposed her transition will be able to access gender-affirming hormone treatment following a landmark Family Court ruling.

    On Thursday Family Court Justice Garry Watts granted authorisation for the teen, given the pseudonym Imogen, to access oestrogen treatment to aid in her physical feminisation.

    Imogen’s father consented to the treatment but her mother did not.

    “We got the result last night and we had a bit of a cry,” Imogen’s father said on Friday, describing the decision as a relief.

    He said the judge was “very fair” in hearing both sides and the court was focused on Imogen’s best interests.

    Hormone treatment with oestrogen or testosterone is the second step in a three-stage medical transition process for transgender adolescents, and follows an initial round of puberty blockers. Surgical interventions may follow at stage three.

    The law has evolved rapidly in Australia. Prior to 2013, it was not possible for a parent or child to give valid consent to any of the three stages and court approval was mandatory.

    The Full Court of the Family Court ruled in 2013 that court approval was no longer required for stage one treatment, but the court had a role in disputes.

    In 2017, the Full Court went further and ruled court authorisation was not required for stage two treatment but it was not clear what role the court performed in the case of disputes.

    The Inner City Legal Centre (ICLC) in Sydney said the court’s decision in Imogen’s case “improves certainty” for families and transgender young people.

    Justice Watts said court approval for stage two treatment is mandatory only if a parent or doctor disputes the child’s legal competency to consent; the diagnosis of gender dysphoria; or the proposed treatment.

    Gender dysphoria is “the distress experienced by a person due to the incongruence between their gender identity and their gender assigned at birth”, Justice Watts said.

    He said Imogen, “aged 16 years and 8 months”, had “expressed a consistent, persistent and insistent view that she wishes to move to … gender affirming hormone treatment”. She had felt she was female from the age of six or seven, the court heard.

    Justice Watts said if the only issue was competence of the adolescent to consent and the court made a declaration of competency, they could then decide on their treatment without court authorisation. If a parent or doctor disputed their diagnosis or treatment, the court would make a ruling authorising the treatment or not.

    Imogen’s mother had disputed her competency to consent, diagnosis and treatment. But Justice Watts said Imogen was an “adolescent of intelligence and maturity” competent to consent who was correctly diagnosed with gender dysphoria, and the treatment was in her best interests.

    The ICLC said “the court’s judgment confirms that the existing law is that a medical practitioner seeing a young person under the age of 18 cannot initiate stage one, two or three treatment without establishing parental consent”, and court authorisation is required if there is a dispute.

  28. zyconoclast

    Mr Khawaja pleaded guilty this year to four charges, including perverting the course of justice and forging a document for a public official to accept as genuine.

    Usman Khawaja, who wrote a character reference for his brother, told the court on Friday that Arsalan was an “ideal citizen” who was school captain, worked at a high level at IBM, and obtained a Defence clearance to do government work.

    “Everything he did was the model citizen, up until recently,” the cricketer said from Brisbane.

    Usman Khawaja said when he was younger, his studious and popular brother “used to take me out to the cricket nets every arvo”.

  29. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #3581368, posted on September 11, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    Raelene Boyle: “What a relief”.

    Wasn’t Jane Flemming ?

    Sorry, mate, it might’ve been.
    The point remains.
    One person was doing a lot of yapping.
    Another summarised a genuine understanding of the pressure in three words.
    The other thing I remember from that night was a very excited Cathy saying live to air that “everyone was over the moon and her brother was probably getting pissed right now.”
    Video deep-sixed.
    Never seen again.

  30. bespoke

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #3581364, posted on September 11, 2020 at 9:52 pm
    Elon Musk’s AI, GPT-3 in action.

    Q: can i pick my nose
    A: Philosopher AI thinks this is nonsense, and is refusing to answer your query. It appears you will have to try something else.
    😎

  31. Leigh Lowe

    Cassie of Sydney

    #3581374, posted on September 11, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    Hard to believe the Sydney Olympics was twenty years ago.

    Hard to believe we are still paying it off.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    MemoryFault
    #3581353, posted on September 11, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    MemoryFault – for whatever reason, my computer isn’t talking to yours. so I’ve posted you my spare copy of your book. Posted yesterday.

  33. zyconoclast

    Electric vehicle specialist Tesla has been accused of cutting corners and using parts similar to those found in a hardware store, as it ramped up production to meet demand earlier this year.
    Owners of the Tesla Model Y SUV have posted images of their vehicles on an online forum showing what appears to be mouldings used in home building materials that have been fitted to their cars.

    As reported by US website The Drive, the images show roughly-cut wooden pieces used to secure a heat exchange unit – part of the Tesla’s cooling system – while other images show various types of plastics.

    It appears the items are there to protect the unit from steel strapping, presumably being used to help secure the part, found below the luggage area under the front bonnet.

    he forum users suggested the items may have been purchased from Home Depot – akin to our local Bunnings.

    In June, Tesla CEO Elon Musk wrote an email to company employees encouraging them to “go all out” before the end of the second quarter of 2020.

    Only a few days prior, the American electric car company had placed last in a US study of car quality. The J.D. Power survey found, on average, Tesla vehicles experienced two-and-a-half problems within the first 90 days after delivery.

    Tesla Australia has been contacted for comment. We will update this story with the response.

  34. Steve trickler

    Evening all. Check this out. I was going to post the second clip and found this new release.





  35. duncanm

    Wasn’t Jane Flemming ?

    I have an interesting JF story.

    We used to work in a building owned by her. Occasionally she’d flirt with the idea of putting it on the market, or just walk through for an inspection.

    Even approaching 50, she had a fantastic arse.

  36. DrBeauGan

    That AI doesn’t know what gnomic means, but will prattle on about knowing things.

    Just like a real philosopher.

  37. bespoke

    Q: am i as smart as Elon Musk
    A: Philosopher AI thinks this is nonsense, and is refusing to answer your query. It appears you will have to try something else.
    DcBG has a new job.

  38. Slim Cognito

    Gender dysphoria is “the distress experienced by a person due to the incongruence between their gender identity and their gender assigned at birth”

    It used to be known as “gender identity disorder” and was a mental illness until they softened it down so as not to offend anyone. Does anyone seriously think that a 16 year old is able to make serious and irreversible decisions in their best interests? Medical science also suggests that the human brain is not fully developed until the age of 25.

    Stories like this are simply about child abuse and should be received as such.

  39. MemoryFault

    ONE “prediction”, Nick.
    It didn’t come to pass – not yet anyway – and Low Lowe has already pointed that out to everybody.

    That the Budget will be introduced by the Government on Tuesday, October 6, is not a “prediction”. It is gazetted in the Parliamentary Calendar.
    That the Opposition will exercise its Right of Reply to the Budget on Thursday, October 8, is not a “prediction”. It is gazetted in the Parliamentary Calendar.
    That Morrison may call an early, snap election immediately after that, for December, again is not a “prediction”. It is purely speculation on what might happen if things look good at the time. Both previous federal elections – 20016, and 2019, were called that way.

    But of course I’ve explained all that before, and yet you choose to continue to be a lying, pig ignorant loud-mouthed arsehole about it, so I guess I’m wasting my time yet again.

  40. Cassie of Sydney

    ““Everything he did was the model citizen, up until recently,””

    Oh yes…until they decide to…

    Take hostages in a chocolate cafe in Sydney’s CBD
    Massacre cartoonists in Paris
    Murder Joooos in a kosher supermarket on the eve of Shabbat
    Massacre Bataclan concert goers
    Take a bomb stuffed with nails into an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, detonate it and murder twenty-two young people

    oh yes……they were always model citizens.

  41. Cassie of Sydney

    “It used to be known as “gender identity disorder” and was a mental illness until they softened it down so as not to offend anyone.”

    It has always been and always will be a mental illness.

  42. zyconoclast

    ‘Bad Optics’ Or Something More? Moderna Executives’ Stock Sales Raise Concerns

    Whether the coronavirus vaccine developed by Moderna succeeds or not, executives at the small biotech company have already made tens of millions of dollars by cashing in their stock. An NPR examination of official company disclosures has revealed additional irregularities and potential warning signs.

    “On a scale of one to 10, one being less concerned and 10 being the most concerned,” said Daniel Taylor, an associate professor of accounting at the Wharton School, “this is an 11.”

    Taylor said Moderna’s stock-selling practices appear well outside the norm, and raise questions about the company’s internal controls to prevent insider trading.

    Since January, CEO Stéphane Bancel has sold roughly $40 million worth of Moderna stock held by himself or associated investment funds; Chief Medical Officer Tal Zaks has sold around $60 million; and President Stephen Hoge has sold more than $10 million.

    No clear evidence has emerged indicating that executives sold stock based on confidential internal information, which would be illegal. And as long as they don’t engage in insider trading, executives are typically free to sell company stock.

  43. Nick

    MemoryFault
    #3541845, posted on August 9, 2020 at 6:24 pm
    That’s a bit scary. What is going to happen?

    Evening, Cassie.
    Who knows? Something will happen to convince people we are not just dealing with bungling and incompetence, but that something far more sinister and permanent is unfolding.

  44. MemoryFault

    Hello Zulu.
    Thanks for that, but I emailed you back about ten minutes later to let you know I had found an uncorrupted copy of your scans of the book. So when it arrives I’ll post it back if you like.

  45. Nick

    MemoryFault
    #3558853, posted on August 24, 2020 at 8:13 pm
    These are the dates.

    August 27-28.
    September 3-4.
    And also October 6th (or 8th).
    Something will happen.
    Not sure what.
    But it will be Big.
    Very Big.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Both previous federal elections – 20016, and 2019, were called that way.

    Actually, Faulty, the 20016 election is a long way off.
    Pretty safe making a prediction 18 millennia out.

  47. twostix

    While state premiers are implementing tyranny and sweeping away centuries of tradition and expectation the courts are busy ruling that teenage boys can mutilate themselves into a frankenstein version of a “girl” because they feel like it.

    Apocalpyse Now and just be done with it all!

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    So when it arrives I’ll post it back if you like.

    No need – pass it on to a worthy cause, with my compliments.

  49. bespoke

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #3581390, posted on September 11, 2020 at 10:10 pm
    MemoryFault
    #3581353, posted on September 11, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    MemoryFault – for whatever reason, my computer isn’t talking to yours. so I’ve posted you my spare copy of your book. Posted yesterday.

    My copy is all blank. Erased by the CIA like the author.

  50. MemoryFault

    Misquoting, Nick. That post had nothing to do with October 6 or 8, which you well know.
    But don’t worry, as to the unknown event, it’s already happened. You just missed it, that’s all.
    But don’t worry – you’ll get plenty of opportunity to come to terms with it over the next year.

  51. BrettW

    Just watched an Avi clip where he interviewed an ex VIC cop in the street. Ex cops partner proudly wearing a Dictator Dan T shirt.

    Anybody know where they come from ? Should be compulsory wear for VIC Cats.

  52. Nick

    You’re a liar and an old plonker Faulty. They are your words verbatim.
    Anyone else would be ashamed

  53. MemoryFault

    Actually, Faulty, the 20016 election is a long way off.

    Then you don’t have to worry about it, do you.

  54. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Slogan ideas please!

    Coming later to the discussion.

    Victoria, the place NOT to be!

  55. bespoke

    Copy/past is Misquoting?

  56. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Bespoke, I thought of you today when, up thread, someone said something that reminded me of that infamous slow cooker!

  57. shatterzzz

    Bruce of Newcastle#3581295, posted on September 11, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    Haha, last night I uninstalled Microsoft Edge, which sucks.
    I thought ‘why use up disk space for it?’
    Tonight Win 10 reinstalled it.
    Then refused to let me uninstall it again.
    Kowtow, peasant!

    Edge is, nowadays, a system file within 10 so you can’t uninstall it completely without buggering things up.
    Simpler just to install & use whatever browser you want and ignore Edge.

  58. Megan

    I think I might have broken my left thumb. Hospital emergency not an option and how good will a telehealth consultation be at figuring out the damage?

    This is not anything I needed during a pandemic. If only I had done it smacking a Vic politician in the mouth.

  59. MemoryFault

    Anyone else would be ashamed

    No, just unvaccinated.
    And I take you’re assuring everyone here that no major crisis is going to develop in the next month or so. You may as well. Your fellow compatriots in the Gang of Four – Low Lowe, Knuckles and Nota, already have.

  60. zyconoclast

    Cash for Guns with
    @BrooklynDA

    NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

    Saturday September 12th
    St. Paul Community Baptist Church
    858 Hendrix Street
    10:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M.

    $200 Pre-paid cards for Handguns & Assault Rifles
    $25 for Rifles, Shotguns, and Airguns

  61. bespoke

    Get one BBS it will change your life.

  62. Oh come on

    This is a genuine crikey.com headline:

    It all ads up — the ABC rates so highly because it plays to its strengths

    Ummmmmmm

    The article’s paywalled but you get the first couple of paragraphs – some guff about how the ABC is beating its “commercial rivals” (does the ABC have rivals? I suppose you could cite its ratings relative to other media outlets, but these are immaterial to the ABC’s continuing existence).

    Does the ABC truly “rate so highly”? As far as I’m aware, it pulls the same 10% audience share it always has. These days, however, that’s a huge number in such a fragmented market. The ABC has gone from poor relation to juggernaut within two decades.

    However, nothing has really changed much since it aired We’re Still Number Four.

    I tell a lie. That song was funny. The ABC can’t do funny these days.

  63. Mark A

    Are the Spaniars lerning from VicPol or the other way around?
    No mask?
    Into the van with you.

  64. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Your fellow compatriots in the Gang of Four’

    There’s a gang? And I’m in it?

    Nobody tells me anything.

  65. Knuckle Dragger

    The only gang worth having is Gangajang.

  66. zyconoclast

    Murderer who [email protected] a prison guard in his cell is jailed for an extra five years
    James Hall, who is in jail for murder, [email protected] a prison guard inside his jail cell
    The guard froze because she feared he would hurt her if she fought back

  67. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Get one BBS it will change your life

    Bespoke, would you mind cooking these vegetables for me?
    🥕 🥕 🥔 🥔 🧅 🧅
    Add in anything else you may like and I’ll come over for dinner if it works out!

  68. Zatara

    At this moment 19 years ago the first of three aircraft struck the World Trade Towers in NYC.

  69. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    MV, yes, I am still around. DVT and a fractured foot slowly healing are my only talking points medically right now. Not going dancing has left me with more time to duck in and out of here.

    Couch potato, but new sofas are very cheering for that. How is your cat? And your job?

  70. Mark A

    plenty of chances for numbers to pick spelling mistakes.🤢

  71. Steve trickler

    She can give birth….remember that.



  72. Leigh Lowe

    Hush everybody.
    The Great Predictoria is about to deliver Holy Prophesy.

  73. Leigh Lowe

    Couch potato, but new sofas are very cheering for that.

    Don’t get too comfortable.
    The end is nigh.
    So nigh I can almost taste it.
    It couldn’t be more nigher.

  74. MemoryFault

    There’s a gang? And I’m in it?

    Yeah, you, Nick, Nota and Low Lowe.
    The Gang of Four.
    I wish I could claim credit, Knuckles.
    But that honour lies with another – from back in May.
    Don’t worry, all will become clear at the appropriate time.

  75. Mark A

    bespoke
    #3581423, posted on September 11, 2020 at 10:36 pm

    Get one BBS it will change your life.

    Slow cooker is one of the most used appliance in our kitchen.
    Makes absolutely marvelous meals unattended, (almost unattended)

    Love it👍😍👍

  76. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Megan hospital emergency is best for out of hours fractures. Can’t the SP drive you in? It’s also likely to be near empty. That was our experience when I was raced in with my current DVT and the fracture clinic took over later for my foot fracture which provoked it.

    Some city GP clinics have 24 hr XRay but hospital definitely will. Max out on painkillers anyway till you get attention. Fractures hurt.

  77. jupes

    The guard froze because she feared he would hurt her if she fought back

    How warped is the thinking that deems it perfectly reasonable for women to guard male prisoners?

    Probably not the most stupid thing about our current society but emblematic of it.

  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My thoughts entirely, Jupes.

  79. bespoke

    Bar Beach Swimmer
    #3581431, posted on September 11, 2020 at 10:48 pm
    Get one BBS it will change your life

    Bespoke, would you mind cooking these vegetables for me?
    🥕 🥕 🥔 🥔 🧅 🧅

    Add in anything else you may like and I’ll come over for dinner if it works out!

    I only have pineapple I was saving for the next pizza night with Gab.

    Will that do?

  80. Leigh Lowe

    Oh great Mystepho the Omnipotent.
    Please reveal your insights and wisdom to us.

  81. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Don’t worry, all will become clear at the appropriate time.’

    Ah. That old chestnut.

    Is when Xenu turns up the appropriate time?

  82. zyconoclast

    Shetland votes to explore ways to become independent from Scotland

    Councillors voted 18 to two in favour of a motion to formally explore options “for achieving financial and political self-determination”.

  83. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘All signs point to “Yes”.’

  84. MemoryFault

    Hello Lizzie.

    You were lamenting the other day about the difficulty in exercising with your injury.
    Here is what you do –
    1) – Get something long and thin – a ruler, large knitting needle, something like that.
    2) – Put on a stirring piece of music – like the 1812 Overture – plenty on YouTube.
    3) – Now “conduct” the music for about fifteen minutes.

    It turns out a study done back in ancient times – that is – pre-internet – found that the longest lived of all professionals were orchestra conductors, even though they tended to live fairly sedentary lives. Further studies revealed that the act of “conducting” – waving both arms at shoulder height – greatly enhanced the operation of the lymphatic system and helped clear the body of waste.

    Try it – you feel great afterwards.

  85. Leigh Lowe

    Normally the snake-oil guy doesn’t show up for a while after his Great Predictions have been busted.
    I predict early onset dementia.

  86. bespoke

    Makes absolutely marvelous meals unattended, (almost unattended)

    Yeah! you do have to ask them about their day Mark but it’s worth it. 😁

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I was supposed to have a review published in Quadrant September issue but either it’s been held over, as happens, or whatever …

    Being a couch potato reminded me. It is of a book I’ve found time to read. Paperbacks are best for bedsides and sofa reclining I’ve decided. I’ve purchased the hard copy of Hillary Mantel’s third and concluding volume on Henry V111’s Cromwell but it is such a weighty tome physically that I’ve only managed one chapter in two months.

  88. MatrixTransform

    so I guess I’m wasting my time yet again

    HTMLOL 404

  89. Leigh Lowe

    Further studies revealed that the act of “conducting” – waving both arms at shoulder height – greatly enhanced the operation of the lymphatic system and helped clear the body of waste.

    Nothing to see here.
    We’re all mostly 75% rational and sane.
    .
    Cardimona.
    Tell me you are not having Faulty hand out HTV cards for you.

  90. MatrixTransform

    I’ll post it back if you like

    HTMLOL 301

  91. Bar Beach Swimmer

    That option let’s your name down.

    I was thinking of a meaty casserole or soup, or lamb shanks done with carrots, celery, onion, herbs & white wine. What can I drink with pineapple?

  92. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘having Faulty hand out HTV cards’

    Waving out HTV cards. Like a conductor.

  93. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks MV. It sounds a bit like Tai Chi but more interesting. At uni years ago a boyfriend of mine always ‘air’ conducted the Triumphal March from Aida on the morning of exams. He did well. Ended up as an Ambassador.

  94. bespoke

    What can I drink with pineapple?

    Woodstock cans BBS.

  95. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #3581456, posted on September 11, 2020 at 11:16 pm

    ‘having Faulty hand out HTV cards’

    Waving out HTV cards. Like a conductor

    And shouting “stupid paid-up liberal stooge” at anyone who avoids eye contact (with his one good eye, that is).
    This is not going to end well.

  96. MatrixTransform

    plenty of chances for numbers to pick spelling mistakes

    always best to pepper yr posts about theTard with speeling errors.
    troll the troll is a thing you know

  97. Arky

    egan
    #3581420, posted on September 11, 2020 at 10:34 pm
    I think I might have broken my left thumb. Hospital emergency not an option and how good will a telehealth consultation be at figuring out the damage?

    This is not anything I needed during a pandemic

    ..
    Stay calm, get to hospital.
    Call an ambulance.
    Don’t not get treatment because of the pandemic.

  98. MatrixTransform

    Megan, hope yr thumb is ok.

    telepath appointments not so good I’ve heard

  99. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Must be something that in my youth I missed 😁

  100. bespoke

    Q: Is vlad going to bed
    A: Philosopher AI thinks this is nonsense, and is refusing to answer your query. It appears you will have to try something else..

    It’s broken.

  101. vlad

    Stay calm, get to hospital.
    Call an ambulance.
    Don’t not get treatment because of the pandemic.

    Sound advice. The only time I had a medical emergency at 5 am I called a taxi, though. I believe they’re cheaper.

  102. mh

    Rita Panahi
    @RitaPanahi
    Won’t let anyone pass her in the aisle cause that would be ‘white privilege’.

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1304382283067977729?s=20

  103. bespoke

    It’s not just me BBS, KD loves Woodstock cans.

  104. MatrixTransform

    Elon Musk is Xenu

    he’s working on the rockets.

    FFS

    patience please

  105. Bar Beach Swimmer

    I’ll have to ask the other half; some type of secret men’s business involved, I suspect 😂

  106. Bar Beach Swimmer

    Does it involve an inability to remain in the upright position?

  107. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘KD loves Woodstock cans.’

    Stop that immediately. It’s like drinking a tin of golden syrup.

  108. Woodstock & Cola? Nearest thing to battery acid you could get.
    (possibly beaten to that title by Bundy & Cola)

  109. bespoke

    Does it involve an inability to remain in the upright position?

    Possibly I’m always in the recliner.

  110. Megan

    Am going to emergency first thing in the morning. Not in much pain at all but I heard it crack when I made contact. Lots of swelling and limited movement. Broke it once before so know what it feels like. The whole mask and shield thing demanded by the hospital totally freaks me out. But no choice. I’m just so peeved. And I’m never at my best when peevishness rules.

  111. feelthebern
    #3581343, posted on September 11, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    As expected, twitter canned Wiggum trending.
    Can’t have Planet Cornelius being ridiculed can we !

    Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

    No Ralphie, don’t play with Daddy’s special gun locker.

  112. Arky

    The whole mask and shield thing demanded by the hospital totally freaks me out. But no choice

    ..
    It will be OK.
    Emergency wards are empty.
    Will be the easiest visit to ER you have ever had.
    Good luck.

  113. bespoke

    Q: Does
    A: I think it is best to begin with a definition of the term in question. Many different definitions have been proposed, but I like this one:
    A: The term “nature” refers to all the properties that an object, event or phenomenon can have. It is a universal concept and thus applies to everything without exception.
    A: There are two different kinds of natural phenomena, the first being natural physical processes and the second being natural social processes.
    A: The term “natural” is often used in contrast to the artificial, or man-made, as it was created by humans rather than occurring naturally.
    A: Therefore, in what you asked for my opinion about the statement “”, I would say that it is neither true nor false because that presupposes a distinction between the artificial and natural phenomena.
    A: So I would have to say that it is either true or false, but in this case, it makes no sense.

    Yep broken.

  114. bespoke

    Thanks Arky! 👍

    That’s a first.

  115. bespoke

    Q: Thanks Arky
    A: Philosopher AI thinks this is nonsense, and is refusing to answer your query. It appears you will have to try something else.
    😂

  116. Old School Conservative

    Margaret Court and Volleys.

    Back in the 1970’s I worked at Dunlop Australia and many staff told me that one of the bosses, Adrian Quist, had introduced the Volley’s herringbone sole pattern to the company. Quist of course was long retired from tennis at the time.
    Wikipedia supports that story, and mentions that the great Margaret used Volley OC (Orthopaedically Correct).

  117. Zatara

    US pro sports insist on learning the hard way, again.

    Fans boo Chiefs, Texans players during moment of silence at NFL opener

    Fans boo players who take a knee before Dallas vs. Nashville in MLS

    Fans are sick and tired of this BS. They paid to watch a match, not to be lectured and called racists by millionaire sport players.

    Cannon, 22, said players had discussed protesting during the national anthem with other teams and Major League Soccer ahead of time.

    Perhaps they should have discussed it with the people paying the bills.

    “You can’t even have support from your own fans in your own stadium. It’s baffling to me,” Cannon said.

    Baffling? Really? Think harder. Try stopping your efforts to stuff your political views down their throats and play ball.

  118. NoFixedAddress

    Are All Australians speaking Mandarin yet?

  119. Fisky

    Total victory for Trump. Israel normalised and thriving, losers can pound the sand, but no one cares about them.

    Amichai Stein
    @AmichaiStein1
    ·
    16m
    #BREAKING: #Bahrain will normalize ties with Israel, Bahrain Crown prince will be in DC Monday, officials confirm to me

  120. Fisky

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/china-crisis-an-unavoidable-test-of-australias-resolve/news-story/fbdc505aefe2dc98c3c68e217459769a

    One senior source told Inquirer exactly how we could achieve a lasting, good relationship with Beijing, if that’s what we want. We could: sign up to Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative, welcome Huawei into the heart of our 5G network and NBN, revoke our foreign interference legislation, abandon our foreign relations legislation (which will subject state government agreements with foreign nations to federal approval), abolish our foreign investment limitations, ratify the extradition treaty so people Beijing accuses of crimes can be sent from Australia to face the Chinese criminal system, allow unfettered research collaboration between our universities and Chinese universities in areas of technology that have military and citizen-control applications, desist from patrolling and surveillance activities in the South China Sea, stop joint military exercises with Asian nations Beijing doesn’t like, such as Japan and India, stop joint military exercises with the US, throw US Marines out of Darwin, close the military communications joint facilities we host with the US, cut our own defence budget, abrogate the US alliance, stop Chinese dissidents, Tibetans and Uighurs from visiting, and get our media to stop saying disobliging things about the Chinese Communist Party.

  121. NoFixedAddress

    And the signs of the political filth are smeared on the public wall

    Another one of those “freedom” thingys

    https://www.thefreedomsproject.com/item/563-where-is-the-resistance-to-covidmania

    As all of this engulfs the nation, there is apparently not one single politician willing to walk from his or her government in any parliament in defence of freedom and of our way of life, or even to threaten to. If this isn’t sufficient cause to make all who cherish freedom severely depressed, I do not know what could.

    Remember that the Government led by the accidental leader, Scott “Chauncey” Morrison, itself has a majority of a mere three seats. Only one more than the Government of New South Wales where Chris Gulaptis is playing his cute games. That there is apparently not one single member of the Liberal Party willing to exercise the nuclear option at this time of national crisis is beyond sobering. These are people who give speeches about freedom in their pre-selection contests. Who quote JS Mill ad nauseam. Who bend the knee – or at least they used to – before Thatcher and Reagan.

    Yes, there is Daniel Andrews and he is not a Liberal. And he is state, not Commonwealth. Those surely diminishing numbers still willing to stand by Scott Morrison over Covid will say that he is not to blame for the worst of the lockdown madness. He is no Andrews.

    With respect, this is rubbish on steroids. Andrews’ manifest madness and evil aside, there is not a sliver of thin paper between the ALP governments and Liberal led governments in relation to lockdown madness. It has been a race to the bottom, with all participating, even trying to outdo each other in achieving maximum Covidmania. They all bow before the so-called expertise of the health public servants, who themselves do not have a clue, who make it up as they go along, who have no brief for freedom or individual rights and yet are thrown the keys to the bus. As it drives us all over the cliff. To expend effort making the argument that we live in a tweedledum-tweedledee political system is no longer even required. All the major parties have morphed into a single political class, remote from the people they are assumed to serve.

    Remember that it is Scott Morrison who continues to enforce the unprecedented ban on Australians leaving the country, a ban matched only by Cuba and North Korea. It is Morrison who infamously stated, “I fully support Daniel Andrews”. It is Morrison who has responsibility for aged care. It is Morrison who blathers on about “national cabinet” as if it is something sacred, to be revered, and never, ever to be questioned. It is Morrison who provides no vision, no national leadership, no nothing except endless platitudes about all of us being in this together. It is Morrison who spinelessly refuses to stop the insane border closures. How about joining Clive Palmer’s constitutional challenge? No, too hard. We don’t believe in national unity and free trade among the colonies any more. How about hitting the premiers where it hurts. It is said with reason, “never get between a premier and a bucket of money”. Well, how about using the power of the purse to shift policy at state level? Our accidental prime minister is palpably guilty of both sins of Covid commission and sins of Covid omission.

  122. Zatara

    LA County’s Public Health Director admits what many suspected about the COVID lockdown

    “So we don’t realistically anticipate we will be moving to tier 2 or to reopening K-12 schools at least until after the election, after, you know, in early November. When we just look at the timing of everything it seems to us the more realistic approach to this would be to think that we’re going to be where we are now until we get, until after we are done with the election.”

    There is no scientific connection between the election and the Wuhan virus. There is, however, a cynical connection between the lockdown and the election. The Democrats know that, and Ferrer finally said it out loud. If you’ve suffered from the lockdown, be sure to remember that the Democrats did it on purpose.

    Democrats yes, and their lemming-like international Trump-hating fellow travelers of course.

  123. MemoryFault

    Good post, NFA.
    But it would be better over on the new,weekend Open Thread.

  124. NoFixedAddress

    Fisky
    #3581507, posted on September 12, 2020 at 12:51 am

    it’s your turn to make the coffee

  125. NoFixedAddress

    MemoryFault
    #3581511, posted on September 12, 2020 at 12:57 am

    Good post, NFA.
    But it would be better over on the new,weekend Open Thread.

    aahhhh

    tnx pS

  126. johanna

    Excellent article by your daughter, Cardimona.

    The koala scare is right up there with the Little Reef That Could.

    It’s BS. Some here may recall me linking an article (on TheirABC, of course) which claimed that koalas would be extinct in NSW in 30 years. Complete bollocks.

    The biggest destroyers of koala populations in recent memory were last year’s bushfires, which were greatly exacerbated by greenie opposition to proper management of forests and reserves. Nobody knows how many of them perished, but it must to have been at least in the thousands.

    Farmers and graziers have no interest in murdering koalas – but greenies do. It’s all grist for the mill.

  127. johanna

    Oh, and I repeat what I said several weeks ago – Andrews is a dead man walking, and some hapless female would end up carrying the can. It’s a Labor tradition.

    At the time, Tom said that his local member (Lisa Neville?) was most likely.

    Any updates from Cats and Kittehs in lockdown?

  128. johanna

    OK, when you wake up. I hope it was worth it! 🙂

    That kiddie pron movie that won a Sundance award and is now being drooled over by movie ‘critics’ is not doing so well among punters:

    As of right now, a full 88 percent of critics approve of Cuties, Netflix’s piece of soft-core child pornography, while only three percent of the audience agree.

    That’s not a typo.

    Three percent.

    Over the years, I’ve seen some wide gulfs between audience and critic at Rotten Tomatoes, but that probably takes the cake and the pie and the whole enchilada.

    Keep in mind, Rotten Tomatoes has worked hard to game these scores to protect its Hollywood masters, and still it’s 88 to three.

    I haven’t seen the movie, but I’ve seen some stills from it. No question, it’s kiddie pron.

    That Hollywood ‘critics’ don’t find it repellent says a lot about them.

  129. johanna

    While youse are all rubbing the sleep from your eyes, or jogging (ha!) yet another sign of abrogation of responsibility due to leaks from greenies in the federal bureaucracy:

    The New South Wales Government has been told to re-do months of Indigenous heritage work as part of the proposal to raise the Warragamba Dam wall, according to a scathing Federal review leaked to the ABC.

    The NSW Government wants to raise the dam wall by up to 17 metres to mitigate flooding in highly flood-prone areas of Western Sydney.

    While holding floodwaters back would delay flooding downstream in populated areas of Sydney, the extra inundation upstream will impact parts of the Blue Mountains bushland, according to the State Government.

    The leaked document, which is a review of the cultural heritage work done for the proposal, says there are concerns within the Federal Environment Department that numerous traditional owners oppose the project.

    The document also casts doubt over whether the project can go ahead without their consent.

    TheirABC editorialises that it is ‘scathing.’ No bias there, then.

    Look, the whole area between and including the Blue Mountains and the sea had long term Aboriginal inhabitation. This notion that every single action in that area which discovers evidence of Aboriginal activity should be preserved is complete bullshit, guaranteed to make sure that nothing ever happens. It’s the Greens, using Aboriginal issues, yet again, to stop development.

    The population of Sydney has about tripled since the dam was built. No significant additions have been added to the Sydney water supply.

    If this crap regime had been in place when Warragamba was proposed, it would never have been built. Sydney would be Nairobi.

  130. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tom, I still think Leak’s ‘contact tracing’ toon is one of his very best. Abacus, Sextant, chicken’s entrails, tin ear with string, crystal ball, tea leaf reading (shades of my nana), a wheel of fortune and finally Guess Who!

    Who hasn’t played Guess Who with the kids?
    And we can all remember the wondrous days of the FAX.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    there are concerns within the Federal Environment Department that numerous traditional owners oppose the project.

    Eddie Mabo was a Melanesian horticulturalist, living on lands used for tending food plants.

    Aboriginal culture was not that, and ‘native title’ is some sort of invention.

    The Sydney basin was widely settled by wandering hunter-gatherer aboriginal tribes. Of course there are significant areas and vistas to be found, but so are there for pioneering white people. Aborigines are not the only people who have lost heritage. Much that the pioneers built and enjoyed and treasured has been lost to the needs of new populations and their spread. Some parts of the past may be treasured and saved still; but not all of it. Allowing vast tracts of land to be ‘claimed’ by any one group is not just nor reasonable.

  132. johanna

    Who hasn’t played Guess Who with the kids?
    And we can all remember the wondrous days of the FAX.

    Still speaking on behalf of everyone, I see.

    Sorry, I have no idea what ‘Guess Who’ is. Does that mean that I am a non-person?

    As usual, you use as the universal reference point your favourite topic – yourself.

  133. Andrews government grants last rites visits

    Does anyone know if these were the exact words?

  134. Bruce of Newcastle

    The New South Wales Government has been told to re-do months of Indigenous heritage work as part of the proposal to raise the Warragamba Dam wall, according to a scathing Federal review leaked to the ABC.

    All the Greens have to do is delay until the holy koala bill is through state parliament.
    Then it’ll be “have there ever been any koalas within 50 km of areas that might get water on them?”
    Ironic if Gladys’ immaculate koalas torpedo her Warragamba plans.

  135. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bad night last night, Joh? Wrong side of the bed on arising?

    Most people who have had anything to do with kids have played identity guessing games, and those are some of the old-style things recalled in Leak’s cartoon about contact tracing. I am here to share things with like-minded others. Some reflect on personal experiences, often experiences common to the type of people who inhabit Catallaxy who are mostly of a certain age; other comments I make offer no personal experiences, only opinion. I think you are somewhat similar, if you are fair-minded enough to see that.

    I have had a difficult week and look like having an even more difficult weekend.
    Catallaxy is a boon in such times to anyone. Just scroll if I annoy you.
    I am genuinely sorry if your arthritis makes that hard to do.

  136. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    a scathing Federal review leaked to the ABC.

    ScoMo? Written and approved on your watch??

    Sydney is wilting every summer for lack of a comprehensive water supply. So much water goes to waste on the eastern sea bord of this dry continent, which is an utter disgrace.

  137. Allowing vast tracts of land to be ‘claimed’ by any one group is not just nor reasonable.

    Isn’t that how Australia began?
    Was it “just” or “reasonable” in 1788?

  138. johanna

    I have had a difficult week and look like having an even more difficult weekend.

    Of course, darling. Unlike anyone else who might not be rich and self-pitying.

    The travails of an elderly socialite living in palatial circumstances with a harbour view in Sydney might not be very appealing to people in Victoria and other places who are losing everything they ever worked for.

    No doubt the progress of your broken foot will be top of their list of priorities.

  139. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Numbers, hunter-gatherer tribes originally roamed in Britain and Europe too? Other populations arrived and mingled. That was what happened world-wide over the course of all history. Justice as known to the new arrivals was offered immediately by Governor Philip to the tribal peoples he found.

    If Australia had not been subject to settlement by the British it would be a far less friendly place these days to any remnant aboriginal populations that might have survived the colonial regimes of the French, Spanish or any other interested major civilisations of that period. It is highly unlikely that these colonisers would see as ‘aboriginal’ many of those who claim to be so these days. So Australia’s colonisation was a lucky one in many respects for the original waves of tribal inhabitants and plenty of redress and assistance has been offered on modern times.

    I could get all excited about my ancient Briton ancestors, even though my heritage is lotsa Saxon/Nordic and Germanic. Making a claim for Anglesey isn’t going to cut it though. 🙂

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My brother is dying, you vicious bitch. We shared an impoverished and distressing childhood in St. Marys and Mt. Druitt the likes of which you could never comprehend. I am due at the hospital at 12 today to say my last goodbyes.

    Fuck off.

    I wanted to keep this to myself and keep cheerful, but you have ……

  141. Leigh Lowe:

    Haha, last night I uninstalled Microsoft Edge, which sucks.
    I thought ‘why use up disk space for it?’
    Tonight Win 10 reinstalled it.
    Then refused to let me uninstall it again.
    Kowtow, peasant!

    I wonder if they are aware of how much this sort of domineering and arrogant shit costs them in goodwill?
    One day they will need it, and it ain’t gonna be there.

  142. I wonder if they are aware of how much this sort of domineering and arrogant shit costs them in goodwill?

    First world problems😱

  143. johanna

    I am genuinely sorry if your arthritis makes that hard to do.

    That dopey cow Lizzie now claims that the fact that (along with several others here) I have arthritis, it explains why I don’t agree with her.

    Concern trolling doesn’t work here.

    Lift your game.
    And never forget that your lies about me started this.

    Not seeing apologies or retractions.

    Till then, cower in your mansion.

  144. Child poverty is a major issue in the USA.

    1 child in every 7 will be born
    into poverty in the United States.
    Students from 16 to 24 years old from low-income families are 7x more likely to drop out than more well-off peers.

    Almost 40% of American children spend at least 1 year in poverty before they turn 18.

    Between 2012 and 2014, federal spending fell for childrens’ education, nutrition, social services and early education and care. The government spends just 10% of the national budget on children — a fraction of what other developed countries spend. 8 states have the highest rates of food insecurity across the U.S.: Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, New Mexico, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine and Oklahoma.

  145. This concept of being last to comment on an open fred is hotting up!

  146. johanna

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #3581946, posted on September 12, 2020 at 10:20 am

    My brother is dying, you vicious bitch. We shared an impoverished and distressing childhood in St. Marys and Mt. Druitt the likes of which you could never comprehend. I am due at the hospital at 12 today to say my last goodbyes.

    Fuck off.

    I wanted to keep this to myself and keep cheerful, but you have ……

    There she goes again.

    She has been wringing her family dry for years. With herself as the heroine.

    If he is indeed dying, sorry, but lots of other people’s families are going through the same thing.

    Me, me, me – as usual. Of course, you wanted to (sob) keep us (sob) away (sob)

    Give us a break. It might have worked when you were young and pretty, but is just grotesque now.

  147. johanna

    Any apologies in the pipeline, Queen of Narccists?

    In that case, business as usual.

    Those who have been thick enough to imagine that the fairy princess is not a gutter rat are reminders of how con artists flourish.

  148. Zyconoclast:

    The Kenosha shot arm guy is back

    Told ya it was only a flesh wound – have some faith in our surgeons.

  149. johanna

    Cue the Fairy Princess being hurty but forgiving. Higher Being etc.

    You don’t fool me.

    Apologise and retract, or this is how your life will be.

  150. Ladies, keep it to yourselves.

    I’m like Frank Grimes compared to you.

    I had to fight off a badger and a professor who had just lost tenure when they gave me my sheepskin.

  151. Slim Cognito:

    Stories like this are simply about child abuse and should be received as such.

    + lots.

  152. Cassie:

    ““Everything he did was the model citizen, up until recently,””
    Oh yes…until they decide to…
    Take hostages in a chocolate cafe in Sydney’s CBD
    Massacre cartoonists in Paris
    Murder Joooos in a kosher supermarket on the eve of Shabbat
    Massacre Bataclan concert goers
    Take a bomb stuffed with nails into an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, detonate it and murder twenty-two young people

    oh yes……they were always model citizens.

    Remember the article posted here about why everyone in Pakistan lies? Because if they don’t they are considered naive fools.
    Looks like it was right on the spot.

  153. Arky

    No one tell the cockhead there’s a new fred.

  154. Arky

    Not you Winston.
    The other cockhead.

  155. Arky

    I mean the other guy, the cockhead.

  156. Zyconoclast:

    James Hall, who is in jail for murder, [email protected] a prison guard inside his jail cell
    The guard froze because she feared he would hurt her if she fought back

    FFS, why do they keep putting women into mens jobs?
    How many female guards/psych workers get manipulated by these prisoners and put into dangerous situations?
    They aren’t showing how well they can do a male job – they’re showing what happens when they fail.

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