Who needs principles when salary supplements and perquisites are at risk

In NSW, there has been some political argy-bargy within the Liberal-National parliamentary coalition.  The NSW Nationals threatened to sit on the cross bench over a dispute over a koala protection law.

Showing a level of fortitude and spine absent from most Australian political leaders, NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian told her coalition “partners” that they can’t have it both ways.  Either support the legislation or get out of the executive (cabinet) and with that surrender their salary supplements, their drivers, their second offices, their phalanx of gormless and vacuous advisors, their gold embossed business cards and their “the Hon” title prefixes.

TAFKAS does not know the details of this koala protection law, but takes on face value that the NSW National Party seemed to have a problem with it.  But rather than stand up for their principles, what did the Nationals do?  They fell over like a Greens Party run economic enterprise.

Oh the shock.

When it comes to a coalition government, who needs an opposition when you have the National Party.

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54 Responses to Who needs principles when salary supplements and perquisites are at risk

  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gladys is the fascist in this case.
    Koalas are the stormtroopers.
    We’re sick to death of such crap being used to destroy private property rights, values, restrict freedom and bind us all under the one ring of greenery.

  2. Penny

    That dope Matt Kean is all over this koala nonsense, to further promote his extreme green agenda. Gladys is scared of him as he is working his way up to be a NSW power broker. She should march him to the local Greens office immediately.

  3. H B Bear

    Won’t somebody think of the koalas?

  4. @Penny and @Bruce of Newcastle

    TAFKAS is not familiar with the proposed policy or legislation or Kean or whatever. If it is as bad as you say and was of sufficient grounds for the Nationals to threaten to cross the floor, why did this team of jelly backs capitulate?

    Why? Perquisites over Principles. The current politician catch cry.

  5. HT

    Says a lot about the deteriorating commitment to conservative values, doesn’t it. At least the Left, as much as I disagree with world view, are largely consistent in their determination to send the world back to the stone-age.

  6. Alex Davidson

    Both sides had their say in the SMH this morning. Both seemed to accept the idea that government is the paramount owner of everything, differing only in degree. Stokes is a through and through believer who wouldn’t find himself out of place on a central planning committee in the former Soviet Union or China today. Barilaro at least indirectly refers to the relentless erosion of ownership rights we have been enduring for decades, but gives way too much ground to the usurpers.

    It would be so encouraging to hear a politician point out that protecting property rights is vastly more important than trying to blanket the country with koalas, but I can’t see this ever happening while we have a political class that survives by using force to help themselves to other people’s property.

  7. Aethelred

    If this law makes farmers responsible for maintaining Koala habitat on their land, then I suspect the view that they are much better off without Koalas will become prevalent.

    Koalas used to be found throughout red gum forests along the Murray, so why don’t the Victorians translocate some of their excess instead of sterilizing or culling them?

    The reason is that it would be politically impossible to control the subsequent population explosion.

  8. stevem

    The gist of the bill is that previously it was necessary to detail the koala food trees one wanted to fell to determine whether it would be permitted or not. The new bill requires that trees used by koalas be detailed as well. The Nats decided that was too much work.
    To be fair the count went from 5 food tree species to about 130 all up.

  9. Robbo

    The Rural Socialist Party aka The Nationals. Being in a Coalition with them is like sharing your house with a crocodile when deep down you know that one day they are going to turn on you. Loyalty to their Coalition partners is not part of their DNA but self interest is paramount.

  10. More Koalas are incinerated in National Parks every year than have ever, or will ever, be killed by farmers and foresters.

    Imagine a Liberal coalition with the shooters and fishers.

  11. Rex Anger

    @ Forester-

    I am not sorry to say that I do not think the LNP would know what hit them if they did!

    While I am sure mere politics has something to do with the matter, I am happy to see that the National Party has finally regrown something resembing a spine.

    This is more in line with the party of Earl Page and Tim Fischer…

  12. Epidermis

    “Imagine a Liberal coalition with the shooters and fishers.”

    One can only dream…..

  13. stackja

    Forester
    #3580569, posted on September 11, 2020 at 11:02 am
    More Koalas are incinerated in National Parks every year than have ever, or will ever, be killed by farmers and foresters.

    Imagine a Liberal coalition with the shooters and fishers.

    Yes! Matt is Kean on National Parks, but not hazard reduction. Matt spent $$$ on “saving” the Wollemi Pine. Farms and houses? Too little, too late.

  14. Colonel Crispin Berka

    Beware of Armenians bearing furry gifts.
    You can’t disagree or you’re oppressing a refugee.
    Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

    Thanks to stevem for explaining what the furore is actually about.

    Do land owners automatically own any wild animal which passes through their property? I would think so for koalas, the same as any fish, lizards, or trees which live there. So is this intervention like the RSPCA rescuing mistreated horses, only a pre-emptive saving of koalas?
    Is this basically free money for environmental scientists to do tree survey jobs?

  15. Professor Fred Lenin

    The fires in the gangrenes National Incendiary Forests administered by the Department not onlj incinerstes for Destruction of Forests not only incinerates koalas but all other wildlife ,homes ,domeatic animals and people ,now there IS a cade for government action .
    Save the koalaand everyting else.

  16. Mullumhillbilly

    The Queen owns the fauna. But this is not about the fauna, it’s about property rights, and a ratcheting up of powers to enter land for ‘inspection’ with a view to prosecute and control. If the government and greens want more koala land, there’s a very simple way to do that; buy it on the open market.

  17. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    takes on face value that the NSW National Party seemed to have a problem with it

    According to Mark Latham, it was an NSW national agrarian socialist MP that was originally responsible for proposing the koala legislation.

  18. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    Apologies – proposing the changes to the existing koala legislation.

  19. Judith Sloan

    Once an Hon always a Hon

  20. duncanm

    Kean is about as green as they come.

    Windmills, solar panels, saving the koala.. he’s on ’em all.

    I apologise – he’s my local member – but I do give him stick whenever he asks for our opinions.

  21. Catcalling Inebriate

    Let’s see, Barilaro has already quit once to grab a Federal seat. But then didn’t. Helped lose the seatr. Won many friends. Now he and Barnaby are running a coup in the Nats, aimed largely at the Federal. But at Barilaro didn’t get to Canberra he has to shout in Macquarie St.
    What did he choose? Some legislation he helped draft. Which has the Governor’s assent. And which does none of the things he says it does. Is this an elaborate way to try to get the Planning portfolio so he and his mates can play games with planning? Or is he simply a Koala strangler?
    We are left with two options: Barilaro is an idiot. Or Barilaro is an Obeid. (Not that these are mutually exclusive options.)

  22. Biota

    Do land owners automatically own any wild animal which passes through their property?

    Not if they are listed as threatened under the NSW Biodiversity Conservation Act or the Commonwealth equivalent which Koalas are.

  23. Karabar

    One suspects that if TAKFAS were trying to eek a living out of a piece of barren dirt where a rabbit couldn’t survive that he would not give a shit about providing a habitat for koala bears.

  24. Bruce

    Given the date, this song is appropriate.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle

    Or is he simply a Koala strangler?

    Inebriate – SFF and PHON are eating the Nats base. The base are infuriated by the Libs pandering to Greens on all things lefty, especially using stuff like poor cuddly koalas to bring in fascist policies. Gladys renewbull targets are another. So either Barilaro pushes back or the Nats perish. I bet on the latter, the rot is rather deep.

    If I were Barilaro I’d vote with Labor on their no confidence motion next week and see where the chips land.

  26. HT

    Aethelred
    #3580563, posted on September 11, 2020 at 10:55 am
    If this law makes farmers responsible for maintaining Koala habitat on their land, then I suspect the view that they are much better off without Koalas will become prevalent.

    Ah yes, the law of unintended consequences. Amongst my favourites: Mao’s “Four Pests Campaign” seems appropriate for these times…


    “In 1958 Mao Zedong launched the Democratic Republic of China into what he called “the Great Leap Forward.” Over the course of five years he intended to transform China from an agrarian society into an industrial powerhouse.

    One of the many goals Mao set was the eradication of those species he deemed to be unwanted pests. Flies, mosquitoes, and rats all made the hitlist for Mao’s Four Pests Campaign, as did sparrows since they ate seeds that could otherwise have been used for human consumption.

    China’s entire population was mobilized in Mao’s war against the sparrows. There could only be one winner. Within a few short years the birds had been all but wiped out, with catastrophic results.

    While sparrows did eat a small amount of seeds, the bulk of their diet was made up of insects. With the sparrows gone, China was overrun by a plague of locusts. Entire crops were lost. Mao belatedly realized his mistake and reintroduced sparrows obtained from the Soviet Union, but by then much of the damage was done and more than twenty-million people had starved to death in one of history’s most terrible famines.”

  27. Entropy

    The nutty thing is, as if someone would chop down a tree with a koala unit.

  28. Up The Workers!

    Much ado about nothing.

    It is Rutting Season.

    In springtime the Nationals always behave erratically.

    Look at the furiously fecund Old Barnaby Joyce – always used to hop the fence into next-doors’ paddock in Springtime to play “sink-the-sausage” with the local ewes-in-oestrous…after which he generally spent the next several months looking decidedly sheepish and keeping a very low profile lest the wife find him.

  29. Pyrmonter

    @ Catcalling Inebriate

    Pretty much. The Nats are a joke. Whatever the merits of this issue (there seems a lot of confusion; Stokes has put out something refuting some of the more crazy-sounding stuff), the Nats had signed off on it in cabinet, only to then announce their own refusal to be bound by the decisions of cabinet, while still seeking to be part of the executive – something that mocks the very prinicple of cabinet government.

  30. Lawrence Ayres

    I have to agree with Bruce of Newcastle. You have to be a landowner in NSW to realise the extent of government control over every thing you do. Freehold title has no meaning anymore. You want to build a shed it should be the right colour to blend in ( I think the petty bureaucrats have shares in Colorbond). Even reducing foliage around buildings has rules that don’t do a lot to mitigate fire risk. The worst example of government intrusion into private lands are the draconian Native Vegetation laws dreamed up by hide bound bureaucrats and implemented by storm troopers in uniform with the help of satellites.
    The city centric lefties in the Liberals parade their green credentials by punishing country people and farmers. If windmills are so great and so in demand by the latte sippers put the monstrosities on North and South head rather than some picturesque hill in the bush. It is time the Nationals did represent their constituents rather than being taken for granted by the LINOs.

  31. I instinctively suspected this Koala issue is essentially connected with the vexed issue of land-clearing & the rights of farmers to cultivate their land.

    I wondered if the preservation of Koala habitat is just a Trojan Horse. Who will argue with environmentalists over the survival of cuddly bears, even if the habitat in question is not home to colonies of bears?

    The Greens have such a record for fraudulent claims, that one can hardly blame the farming lobby for opposing legislation that may entrap farmers in rightfully developing arable land?

    And don’t think that the Libs would question the legislation – they are increasingly “woke” in their policies.

  32. Forest Stylist

    Koalas prefer regrowth and plantation foilage as it is more nutritious .
    Population density in older trees (old growth) is lower – it was 10 years after the first fleet landed before a white person sighted a live koala.
    So the way to expand koala populations is more regrowth (ie harvesting of native forest) and plantations.
    This legislation is just another attempt to close down the native forest industry and shaft landowners at the same time.
    And backing up Foresters comments about koalas being incinerated not just in National Parks but by them as well.
    30,000 koalas died from a fire that started on national park last summer that could have easily been extinguished except retardents and machines were ruled out. 29,000 of those koalas lived in nearby plantations.

  33. nb

    Alex Davidson, #3580561 says: ‘Both seemed to accept the idea that government is the paramount owner of everything, differing only in degree.’
    Stephen Davies, The Economics and Politics of Brexit: The Realignment of British Public Life:
    “The history of the Conservative Party means this should not have been a surprise to anyone. In its long and successful existence, it has had many ideologies and positions and has shown great willingness to change and discard these as the occasion requires. The core principle that has persisted is simply that there are many things in life more important than politics and therefore the scope of politics should be restricted. To that end, the main goal of the party has always been to win elections and hold power, no matter what. Holding office is an end in itself, because it keeps the other lot (who do want to use politics to change the world) out of office and stops them doing things”. [p 204]
    ——————————-
    Sadly, in Australia ‘doing things’ has come into vogue for both sides.

  34. davefromweewaa

    Way too many greenies in the Libs. Always wanting to impose burdens and take liberties in the name of saving something precious. Whether it’s saving the planet, the koala, the river, the reef or the forest it’s always the means never the end. You can bet your boots power, money, acclaim and influence are always the ends.

  35. W Hogg

    If greens and former greens support the legislation, then I oppose it. Don’t know anything about it, but it sounds awful.

  36. Catcalling Inebriate

    Bruce of Newie: Nats could go hard on water. But they don’t. They could go hard on the level of health services in rural areas. But they don’t. In fact theres a hugely long list of things they could quit over. But the pick koalas. Idiots.

  37. Win

    Funny how Barnaby Joyce and Boris Johnson have lost some thing now they have preening young women with self satisfied smirks and minis in tow.

  38. Alex Davidson

    Vicki #3580832: I wondered if the preservation of Koala habitat is just a Trojan Horse.

    I happen to live in an area with plenty of bush and plenty of environmental fundamentalists to go with it. I’ve noticed how for the last few years they have been attempting to create an urban myth about the presence of koalas where there are none. “We heard them calling at night.” “We found scat”. Not dissimilar to black panther sightings.

    Once that myth is established, then it becomes easy for them to point to the lack of observations as evidence “koalas are becoming extinct” in the area, as if all species should be found everywhere. It is nonsense, but unfortunately the masses swallow it because after decades of indoctrination about the evils of capitalism and the virtues of communism they can no longer think clearly.

    The list of council areas affected by the legislation includes several in outer Sydney. I am certain it will be used as a further impediment for landowners who attempt to improve society by satisfying demand for housing, unless of course they fall within the protection racket called planning.

  39. Youngster

    Right decision by the Nats, but wrong hill upon which to die (or not die as it turned out).

  40. Ed Case

    The issue is Bushfires, Koala Legislation guarantees more blazes over a larger area.
    Pointing this out is a waste of time because no one gives a fuck about anything outside their Super balance anymore.
    That said, Barilaro doesn’t have any smarts, plus he fucked over Liberal chances of winning Eden-Monaro.

  41. The Sheriff

    If the Nats had any guts they would have quit the government over Gladys pushing the outrageous abortion legislation at the behest of Alex Greenwich…but oh wait the Nats have Ben Franklin and Trevor Khan in their team who think politics is all about Mardi Gras and telling us how bad Trump is

  42. Squirrel

    A disappointing backdown, but if the threats to the NSW koala population really is so great, the state government (i.e. all those city-based taxpayers who are “passionate” about the environment) should pay for the tree surveys and assessments etc. and compensate farmers for loss of property rights.

    If it’s good enough to spend squillions subsidising primitive “renewable” energy technology to save the planet, then it should also be quite OK to pay for the protection of trees and the furry things which live in some of them.

    A Liberal Party worthy of the name would also enact state-wide legislation to curtail and wind-back the manic tree protection rules of local councils – on rural and suburban blocks. Either that, or compensate people whose property rights are seriously affected by nutjob tree protection regimes.

  43. Rockdoctor

    Inebriate – SFF and PHON are eating the Nats base. The base are infuriated by the Libs pandering to Greens on all things lefty, especially using stuff like poor cuddly koalas to bring in fascist policies. Gladys renewbull targets are another. So either Barilaro pushes back or the Nats perish. I bet on the latter, the rot is rather deep.

    Exactly. Matt Kean & Photios the puppet master are running the scene in true NSW form. Try living west of Maitland in the Hunter Valley, services near non existent despite the royalties this area generates. The New England Hwy west of Branxton is a choke point. This afternoon average speed was 30km/h from Wittingham through to McDougals Hill each side of Singleton. They have tried to hide the congestion by dropping speed limits to 80km/h outside town but that has just confounded the problem. Singleton should have been bypassed years ago, Muswellbrook ditto. We apparently are going to get a bypass but a half ar$#d one, Single lane and still coming out on Mc Dougalls Hill where all the heavy service industry for the mines is. So basically the problem will be pushed down the road a few km’s. No plans to duplicate the whole stretch.

    Water infrastructure, the whole area is supplied by Glennies Creek & Glenbawn Dams. Both have been hovering around 35% for as long as I have been here and talking to locals that seems the average for years now. They supply town water for just about everywhere west of Branxton, irrigation and water for the mines/power station. Good start would be to stop flushing water down the drain in environmental flows then build more dams. The local area from my short residency gets enough rain events to flush the Hunter River a few times a year. These are just 2 of a few issues, that said most here like me are pragmatic about living outside a city.

    However on the flip side Gladys can find money to rebuild a few aging but functional football stadiums that are rarely filled in the Sydney area for what reason I cannot fathom. My opinion, Barillaro is finished now. The Nationals this morning in this neck of the woods had a glimmer of credibility. They caved for 30 pieces of shiny silver.

  44. Mother Lode

    Gladys Pipe and the Drips

  45. Rockdoctor

    Wow, breaking news Barilaro claims he won despite getting nothing. This quote I believe despite being an unsubstantiated leak:

    Leaks are flooding out of parliament, with Liberal sources backgrounding journalists to say Deputy Premier John Barilaro walked away with nothing, and the Nationals suggesting their leader had “won”.

    Yeah, na mate. If you make threats you are going to walk do it, otherwise don’t cry when you are treated with contempt next time.

  46. miltonf

    Bloody hell just read the bios of Kahn and Franklin- sounds like the Australian Democrats or even the greens. Gawd.

  47. miltonf

    Let’s see, Barilaro has already quit once to grab a Federal seat. But then didn’t. Helped lose the seatr. Won many friends. Now he and Barnaby are running a coup in the Nats, aimed largely at the Federal. But at Barilaro didn’t get to Canberra he has to shout in Macquarie St.
    What did he choose? Some legislation he helped draft. Which has the Governor’s assent. And which does none of the things he says it does. Is this an elaborate way to try to get the Planning portfolio so he and his mates can play games with planning? Or is he simply a Koala strangler?
    We are left with two options: Barilaro is an idiot. Or Barilaro is an Obeid. (Not that these are mutually exclusive options.)

    Grotesquely stupid. Wal Murray would be turning in his grave.

  48. Will Gladys be NSW’s first Green Premier?

  49. Hay Stockard

    Photos pulls the strings. Gladys dances.

  50. The Sheriff

    As Walt Secord revealed earlier this year, Trevor Khan used to be a member of the Eastern Suburbs branch of the ALP.

    Khan, a failed lawyer who never did anything more than represent people against speeding fines, ended up moving to Tamworth and then joined the Nats to get a seat because there was no alternative. He has all but come out of the closet with his incessant whining for SSM, gay adoption, euthanasia, abortion, and constantly collaborating with the Greens to promote their disgusting social agenda

  51. EllenG

    Rural electors are tight to choose shooters etc. Nats are utterly hopeless in anything resembling important policy. How many rural towns now have no GP? How many places out side urban centres have any basic child support services (speech therapy, behavioural therapy, etc). When was the last time you heard anything serious about water issues? And so on.

  52. metro70

    Barilaro’s a gutless fizzer but GreenGladys is something else.

    HT says at least the Left are consistent…but Gladys and her Government ARE the Left.
    From the moment of the SSM win…it appears that either the Greens have something on Gladys and can make her do just about anything.

    Or maybe it’s the fact that she’s a creature of the Photios takeover of NSW …as are Morrison….Kean and many other unaccountable incompetents in power now.

    Lobbyist Photios won bigtime when Australia was destroyed in 2015 with the Turnbull/Morrison/Photios coup to politically-assassinate a new high-achieving PM and veto the Australian people’s landslide vote .

    And so we now have late-term abortion laws forced through in a similar way to this blitz on Barilaro by Green Gladys at the behest of her triumphant SSM co-legislators…laws that are tantamount to Government-sanctioned murder…and we’re being told to rejig our lexicon under the rule of WOKE…and that diktat requires civil disobedience en masse.

    So Green Gladys is a writeoff as far as I’m concerned…and I won’t vote at all at the next election because it would be like voting for the Greens to whom Gladys is obviously hostage or complicit…and IMO an en masse refusal to vote at all …making the election result ridiculous and nothing to do with democracy…is the only antidote to the Gladys/Photios/Morrison assault on democracy.

    Squirrel…you are exactly right!!

  53. Tim Neilson

    and I won’t vote at all at the next election

    Turn up and write anti-Photios obscenities on your ballot paper. It will save you from being fined and still make your point by being an “informal” vote.

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