If you read one op-ed today …

David Penberthy is really good:

I am less interested for the purposes of this column in Dan’s totalitarian credentials, impressive as they may be, than in the blind, Kool-Aid skolling fanaticism of his loyal army of followers, who would have to be the most rusted-on band of deluded halfwits this side of Pyongyang.

That must be best sentence I’ve read in a long time.

This is how he describes the quarantine debacle:

But on two key fronts — spreading the virus and tracking it once it spread — the Victorian government has been in a dunce’s class of its own through the absurd use of untrained private security guards and the in­adequacy of its contact tracing regime.

I Stand With Dan? Read this.

In its hearings last Thursday, the Victorian hotel quarantine inquiry was told how two security guards, who were untrained subcontractors, were caught having sex while working at Melbourne’s Swanston Street Rydges Hotel, while others were hassling nurses for their mobile numbers so they could “hook up”; others were caught urinating on bathroom floors, and others still were caught stealing food out of residents’ bags.

At the same time, three young children in quarantine became so distressed by their incarceration that they started smearing the hotel room walls with their own excrement.

Their mother was hysterical and while the private security guards were busy putting the moves on nurses, one nurse managed to dodge their advances long enough to enter that infernal room and hoover up the shit with a vacuum cleaner.

Still standing with Dan? The answer for many remains: yep, 100 per cent.

Then Citizen Dan himself:

Like Dan Andrews himself — who made the transition from prefect to student politics to political staffer to backbencher to minister to premier — you get the sense a lot of these “I Stand With Dan” dopes have never done a real day’s work in their lives, never had to live with the panic and uncertainty of making a living under their own steam, rather than via the unyielding generosity of the taxpayer.

Speaking of descriptions of Dan Andrews – here is Brian Loughnane in The Weekend Australian:

Daniel Andrews is unarguably the leading centre-left political ­figure in Australia — and one of the most underestimated. His political style is emblematic of the best practice of left activist governments around the world. In fact, since the fall of the Wynne government in Ontario in 2018, Labor in Victoria is the most left-wing ­government in any significant democratic country. It is much more so than in any US state, or Nicola Sturgeon’s Scotland — or any of the Green coalition governments in Germany.

Andrews is not one of those political figures who will regret wasting his mandate. He has successfully implemented the most wide-ranging and radical social agenda seen in Australia. He has been able to so, in part, because his style is deliberately low-key and non-confrontational to avoid ­attracting attention to just how ­extensive his actions are. His longevity and success owes a lot to this style, which was tailored to the reduced reporting of state politics over the past decade.

Labor has governed in Victoria for almost 30 of the past 40 years. They have controlled senior appointments across the public sector for most of that time. This trend has increased rapidly since the election of the Andrews government in 2014, with comprehensive control of key parts of the bureaucracy being a key objective. Andrews, and his office, are widely rumoured to be active in shepherding key appointments. Public servants are expected to be “on the page”, and the Premier has been ruthless in removing those considered ineffective or unreliable.

But until recently his daily press conferences have been a master class in diverting attention from unwanted scrutiny. He has projected a style which, as Graham Richardson has said, exhibits “modesty with confidence”. His self-discipline means he rigorously sticks to his message and avoids anger or over-the-top rhetoric. This allows him to talk difficult issues down.

He normally rations his public appearances, avoids long one-on-one interviews and refuses to appear on some networks (Sky) or to be interviewed by commentators (such as Neil Mitchell at 3AW) who may push him. He narrows his field of public engagement and the issues he discusses, and he simply will not engage on some difficult topics.

As we see in his daily press conferences, he goes immediately to technical detail, often in great depth, to desensitise an issue and to give the impression he is “across the detail” and to provide endless diversionary issues on which to be questioned. It is common to have “experts” attend a press event to keep the focus on the detail and not on governance issues or unrelated difficult political issues.

He plays to his own constituencies and completely ignores those parts of the community he does not consider part of that group. He uses the power of his office to legitimatise his support base, including unions and activist NGOs, by consulting them and including them in decision-making while delegitimising others, such as small business, who are seen as either opponents or irrelevant to his political objectives.

In return, he demands total loyalty. Should a matter risk overwhelming his core message, an “inquiry” is often established “independently” to provide a shield to avoid further questions on the matter “while the Inquiry is underway”. And, in a direct take from the Kevin Rudd playbook, he often finds “I’ve not been briefed on that”. He regularly refuses to release information (e.g. genomic data) if it may prove embarrassing.

But the power of his message should not be underestimated. It is sophisticated and manipulative. It is not off-the-cuff or spontaneous but developed from research and extensive analysis of data from social media and other sources. Terms frequently heard at the daily press briefings such as “the advice of experts”, “we’ve all got to work together”, and “slow and steady recovery” come directly from this work.

Social media, much of it very targeted and beneath the wider public radar, has become the preferred channel of communication, allowing the Premier to ignore established television, radio and newspapers if he wishes. Significant public resources underpin this operation, which has one of the most extensive social media reaches in the state.

Andrews ignores parliament and limits the opportunities for the opposition to hold him, or his ministers, to account. He does not engage with the opposition or acknowledge any criticism from them. He dominates his party, caucus and ministry, expecting them to toe-the-line while otherwise ignoring them.

That is a magnificent analysis of the man – until the second lockdown Dan Andrews had projected the image of being a competent technocrat. He is quietly spoken and speaks well so he comes across as being reasonable and sensible.

Cleaning up after him will be difficult and require a disciplined ruthlessness that the Liberals simply fail to demonstrate at any level and at any time.

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86 Responses to If you read one op-ed today …

  1. BoyfromTottenham

    “Cleaning up after him will be difficult and require a disciplined ruthlessness that the Liberals simply fail to demonstrate at any level and at any time.”
    Er, at least since Jeff Kennett. Can the Libs please recruit some tough guys (e.g. from a Commando Regiment, perhaps?) to stand for the next Victorian election?

  2. Leo G

    I Stand With Dan?

    #IwithstandDan?

  3. rickw

    I am less interested for the purposes of this column in Dan’s totalitarian credentials, impressive as they may be, than in the blind, Kool-Aid skolling fanaticism of his loyal army of followers, who would have to be the most rusted-on band of deluded halfwits this side of Pyongyang.

    Really good indeed!

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    Whoa, if you’ve lost a lefty like Penberthy…

    As for Loughnane, describing Dan Xi Man as “centre-left” is like saying Trotsky was a conservative at heart. Says more about Loughnane than it does about Dan.

  5. miltonf

    Maybe bring back Kennet?

  6. egg_

    the blind, Kool-Aid skolling fanaticism of his loyal army of followers, who would have to be the most rusted-on band of deluded halfwits this side of Pyongyang.

    Probably more are cowed than true believers.

  7. Tony Taylor

    Excellent analysis by BL. You could apply it to the Bracks/Brumby govt, too. The spectre of Kennett also hovers over Victorian politics; as does the fact there is a Conservative govt in Canberra.

  8. stackja

    Jeff we are told was arrogant.
    Meanwhile, we are told Dan is nice.
    And again, Victorian voters keep electing ALP into government expecting a different result.

  9. Joanna Smythe

    Just imagine in 50 days, if Biden and his Communist mob win the election and empower all the weak politicians all over the world and all the social media formats are free to ban free speech and the police are free to arrest people for breathing, these kind of articles will be a thing of the past, so make the most of them.

  10. H B Bear

    Whoa, if you’ve lost a lefty like Penberthy

    Not Mr Kate Ellis surely?

  11. H B Bear

    Loughnane is right. Doesn’t stop him and the Lieborals being part of the problem though. In Victoriastan it is probably Kroger though.

  12. And again, Victorian voters keep electing ALP into government expecting a different result.

    Same shit, different day. Is this the full extent of your repertoire? Exactly what state or country do you live in where life is perfect?

  13. John snowy Bowyer

    Penberthy married to Kate Ellis? Wow if his partner was LNP it would be mentioned as a matter of course. If he was married to Pauline he would be unemployable. So why don’t we get this all the time. We have to fight the current bias with facts like this!

  14. Philby

    Wasn’t it Kennet who appointed Juliar to Beyond Blue to do what I don’t know. They are all the same self interest is alive and well. Half the country are now confirmed communists/socialists and a majority of states/territories are in the hands of the communists. The LNP appear to be centre left and the only centre right appear to be One Nation so for conservatives we are stuffed with too few representatives. Malcolm Roberts stuck it up that dolt Cormann over the climate alarmism and CO2 and all Cormann could say is “we have international agreements”. No science just agreements by uninformed leftists in the LNP and the communists. Australia you are standing in it, shit that is.

  15. rafiki

    And then there’s the Belt and Road secret and insidious agreement with the Communist Chinese government. This, if implemented, would make Victoria a vassal state of the Chinese, but does Andrews see it as a means to entrench socialist Labor in power for the foreseeable future? That is, by way of using the Chinese money as a way to provide employment and welfare and lock in the voting herds. The Commonwealth may attempt to block him, but will the Senate pass the legislation? If Andrews succeeds, the federal Labor Party might capture a very large number of federal MPs, and be indebted to him. This model might induce other States to follow suit and correspondingly lead to Andrews seeking a move to the federal arena. Or would the CCP find a role for him internationally?

    This is all very speculative, but I suspect we have not yet seen as the Andrews/CCP alliance works out. Is it his trump card?

  16. HT

    One of the tests of speaking and communicating well is to read a transcript of what was actually said. There is of course a difference between a pattern of words used when spoken as opposed to the written word, but messages should nonetheless have a purpose; to communicate ideas, thoughts and insights. But read a transcript what Andrews actually says at his daily conferences. It’s incoherence and pre-conditioning of almost every point made is matched only by Malcolm Talkbull. Yet both men are commended as “great communicators.

  17. Gyro Cadiz

    Rumours from the PDRV have reached my ears hinting that Kommisar Klusterf#ck AKA Comrade Dan the Incompetent may be facing assassination from within the Politburo itself.

    Can any of you serfs of the PDRV narod confirm that these rumours are in the RDRV Samizdat?

    Oh, yeah, so the PDRV Naródnyy Komissariát Vnútrennikh Del don’t vanish me into the PDRV gulag…..

    Long Live the People’s Democratic Republic of Victoriastan!
    Long live General Secretary of the CP-RDRV Glorious Comrade Dan!

    or something.

  18. Rabbi Putin

    The boots-our-the-front protest is actually a ripper of an idea. The #istandwithDan cult out on their daily safety-walk with their transgender kids will get a much better sense that opponents to their communist agenda live amongst them. If anyone lives near Magda Szubanski be sure to make some boots very prominently visible so the porky dyke can realise she actually backed the wrong horse and hitched her wagon to the baddies of this story.

    I am reminded of Czechoslovakia’s Velvet Revolution, protesters massed in the city squares jingling their house keys en masse. It meant the bells were tolling for the end of Communism in Czechoslovakia.

  19. Mustapha Bunn

    The Great Leader has just announced another 4 weeks of stage 4 lock down for Melbourne. A couple of sweeteners thrown in .. 2 hours per day for not just exercise but also for social interaction with one family member,although how that works if none of your family live more than 5 Kms from you I do not know.
    The curfew has had 1 hour removed,longer days etc. Also announced is a $3 billion package from the Government,( taxpayer) to help businesses affected by hi continual fuck ups.
    There was another protest by “selfish people” at the Queen Victoria market today although “gatherings are now banned but obviously gathering to buy sprouts or whatever is still allowed.

  20. Rockdoctor

    All well and good for Brian to slag off at the Liberals. I don’t disagree, however who has had a decades long strong influence on the party especially Victoria and including stint as a state director of the Vic Branch 2000-2003. He may have won them elections early on but has allowed the small “l” cancer metastasise the party so it is almost unrecognisable to the crossbench. Food for thought anyway.

  21. lotocoti

    There was a delay of at least 24 hours before his last call and him being found, Safer Care Victoria Professor Euan Wallace confirmed.
    He was only checked once during his nine-day detainment.

    Do they not read their own legislation?
    An authorised officer must at least once every 24 hours during the period that a person is subject to detention under subsection (1)(a) review whether the continued detention of the person is reasonably necessary to eliminate or reduce a serious risk to public health.

  22. #ICan’tStandDan …….. From Prefect to Premier the tards really have taken control … All thanks to the Commie dirtbags who’ve been white anting the education system for forty years …. Producing educated Morons by the thousands . Dumb is cool !

  23. Boambee John

    Speaking of descriptions of Dan Andrews – here is Brian Loughnane in The Weekend Australian:

    Daniel Andrews is unarguably the leading centre-left political ­figure in Australia

    If Loughnane believes that Andrews is “centre-left”, then he is completely deluded, and his judgements are useless.

    Andrews is so far left that he has moved past H1tler towards Stalin, with a possible destination close to Pol Pot.

  24. “gatherings are now banned but obviously gathering to buy sprouts or whatever is still allowed.

    More people gather each week to catch Aldi specials than they do at one of these protests.

  25. Rob

    Some people, about to have their heads hacked from their bodies by the worst mongrel dogs civilisation has ever produced, exhibit an acceptance and calmness that beggars belief.
    Perhaps they consider their hopeless state will ultimately turn into something good.
    Those who “stand with Dan” may be suffering from the same delusion.
    We owe those who defiantly resist, a big vote of thanks, for its their credibility that will be standing out when historians finally produce the analysis that defines our community’s current state of arrant stupidity.

  26. littledozer

    The Great Leader has just announced another 4 weeks of stage 4 lock down for Melbourne. A couple of sweeteners thrown in

    The bit I caught of the presser…..we have doubled and doubled again people taking calls to help explain the road map as we have laid it out, people’s concerns are being answered within 10s, thats great and I thank those staff.

    Next Question…..playgrounds are opening to children monday, will skate parks be open?

    premier launches into No, skate parks will literally kill people and he won’t see groups of kids gathering etc etc and his 13yo is missing out 2.

    So Call centres with people working inside expanding their workforce is perfectly Ok, Skate parks kill people.

  27. Pyrmonter

    @ Doomlord

    I’m with Boy: the Libs have done this in the past. Kennett, Stockdale, Greiner, even Court, Brown and Olsen did reasonable jobs. Howard had a got at it in 1996. But 1996 is really about the last time they had a go. They’ve too often come in without much idea of what government will be like – witness O’Farrell in NSW, Bailleiu in Vic – or with an excrable combination of incompetence and wilfulness – Newman, Abbott. And whenever there is a leadership group that begins to come to grips with governing – as O’Farrell and Bailleiu did, as largely did Turnbull – they’re brought low by their own party.

    While not the sole cause, the reason Labor has prospered in Vic is down to the decay of a once intellectually, financially and organisationally formidable Victorian Liberal party: any party in which Marcus Bastiaan could rise to be a ‘leading light’ was already in serious trouble.

  28. Astrid van den Akker-Luttmer

    Perfect description of Daniel Andrews. I hope people’s blinds will be taken off their eyes very soon. I hate to see an additional new nasty virus coming out of the woodworks. Lockdowns and businesses closing are not the solution. People receiving handouts for how long still? Soon there will not be much left and the riots will start with more boots on the ground, escalating. To get rid of Daniel Andrews has to come as a groundswell. Education is the only answer here via the diverse media outlets and INTENSE NOW before everything and anyone will be censored!

  29. min

    Re dog groomers back in business , back in the 60s I bred and showed dogs and traveled all over Victoria for shows . I cannot remember seeing a professional dog groomer anywhere so how did the poor doggies get on then as vets now saying it’s bad for dogs wellbeing not to get groomed.

  30. sfw

    Pyrmonter, Ballieu never governed like a Liberal, he was as wet as a fish and as left as any Labor member, he wanted to stop the dredging of the bay, he adopted left policies everywhere and funded his enemies (like all Lib govs), Napthine was no better. The treasurer was ok but on its own that doesn’t win elections. I keep saying if you want to vote for a left gov go Labor or Greens etc, the idiot Libs don’t understand this, they keep shitting in the faces of their core support and do what they can for those who will never vote for them. If the Libs appealed to their core and the swinging votes they would have a chance, chasing hard lefties will get them no where. The idiots both at state and federal level can’t get this simple concept. Even Abbott did it, he shat all over his core on 18c to placate those who despised him.

  31. Tim Neilson

    Pyrmonter, largely a good comment but I’d disagree on two points:

    an excrable combination of incompetence and wilfulness – Newman, Abbott

    Well, ok, I don’t really disagree here. But Abbott did some good things in his first six months, it’s just that he then inexplicably lost his mojo, kowtowing to people he should have tried to nuke, and allowing sub-mediocre clowns and treasonous leftist infiltrators to flourish instead of being summarily executed.

    And whenever there is a leadership group that begins to come to grips with governing – as O’Farrell and Bailleiu did, as largely did Turnbull – they’re brought low by their own party.

    Here you surely jest. Mick Trumble’s utter hapless incompetence in governing was a blessing in disguise since he was determined to outdo the Greens in societally destructive wetness.
    And he was brought low by his own arrogance, stupidity, incompetence and fanatical commitment to pursuing the Greens’ agenda for them, not by the party. Remember it was Trumble’s own “smartest guy in the room” brilliant tactic of calling a snap leadership vote that led to his position becoming untenable.

  32. one old bruce

    Andrews talks like a robot. No emotion, no inflection, a relentless monotone. He’s like the ‘HAL’ computer in Kubrick’s Space Odyssey. All the ‘modesty’ and ‘confidence’ of a machine. Nor does his body language convey anything human. I went into this in more detail previously, so I won’t repeat myself, but has no one else noticed? It could be a symptom of a deeper problem. The lack of normal human affects is itself a concern in someone who holds so much power.

  33. Catcalling Inebriate

    Interesting thread in Penberthy’s quotes. How do we get political leaders these days? Largely through the sausage making machines. Uni politics, staffer, MP, Minister, etc. So we have: howard, costello, abbott, scomo. plus gillard and albo. But not Turnbull or Rudd.
    Andrews is all machine and no engine. It’s very clear from the inquiry that the government exercised none of the priority management that was required and even now might not have the contact tracing in place. Gladys, who held down senior private sector jobs before politics, nailed the process bit at the start.
    Interesting to me how much of this also goes on in business. So many characters getting by on the network or the fakery that seems encouraged to day by pension funds who want everything to look smooth.
    Might even go back to the very source: universities, where I’ve seen business school case studies that are so little observed that they fail to note that the genius corporate leader is now unemployed.

  34. MACK

    bemused #3583504, posted on September 13, 2020 at 2:11 pm
    And again, Victorian voters keep electing ALP into government expecting a different result.
    Same shit, different day. Is this the full extent of your repertoire? Exactly what state or country do you live in where life is perfect?

    Come back to us in about March when Jobkeeper and the insolvency moratorium are over and the soup kitchens are in full swing.

  35. MACK

    Best comment of the day – “looks like I’ll have to go to the dog-groomer to get my hair cut”

  36. Daily llama

    Well, well, well. Ain’t this interesting. Change a few names and it could be an article from some pussies about Trump.
    Demagoguery doesn’t need a philosophy, it just needs enough morons to get sucked in. I enjoy reading the many and diverse ‘responses’ from my fellow pussies, but increasingly believe it’s all pointless. Here in the Croweater State I was overjoyed when we got rid of state Labor. Only to discover the state Libs are if anything even bigger crooks. No wonder so many have lost faith in democracy. Dark times are coming.

  37. Tom

    When you’ve lost a token News Corp leftard like Mr Kate Ellis and the right of the loony left at
    The Guardian Gay Alcorn (Margo Kinston’s sister), you’ve lost your base.

    The Andrews juggernut is a V8 at Mount Panorama that’s just put a piston through the firewall and can’t even finish the final lap — a smoking wreck that even the Spring Street mechanics are walking away from, shaking their heads.

    All that’s left to do is to name the vagina who’ll receive the hospital handpass for 2022.

    Good get, Sinc.

  38. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    children in quarantine became so distressed* by their incarceration that they started smearing the hotel room walls with their own excrement

    And if you believe that, I’ve got a big fat shiny soviet grey coathanger for sale – with a very special price just for gullible imbeciles! 😉

    *This word is used very deliberately.

  39. Spurgeon Monkfish III

    token News Corp leftard like Mr krate ellis

    F*ckwits.

    Trigger Warning: Ooglee ol’ dinobore …

  40. caveman

    Reads like the guy can’t be stopped. So how do you stop a person like Chairman Dan.

  41. iamok

    All you have to know about the science behind this plandemic is the social distancing requirements of 1.5m in Dantoria. And 2m in Qld. Job done.

  42. Rockdoctor

    The campaign against Newman began before he even won the election he wasn’t meant to. Lefties & unions hated him from his time as Brisbane Lord Mayor that he obviously did something right to get re-elected. Was a welcome break after the sleazy Jim Soorley. Abrasive yep but Queenslanders knew what they were getting; made some mistakes, maybe depending whether you have solar panels or not but after a decade or more of Beattie corruption I didn’t think he was too bad. I don’t think he was ever given a chance.

  43. jupes

    And whenever there is a leadership group that begins to come to grips with governing – as O’Farrell and Bailleiu did, as largely did Turnbull – they’re brought low by their own party.

    LOL

    You idiot.

  44. Squirrel

    “He has successfully implemented the most wide-ranging and radical social agenda seen in Australia. He has been able to so, in part, because his style is deliberately low-key and non-confrontational to avoid ­attracting attention to just how ­extensive his actions are.”

    Aside from the soapy style, Andrews has been able to get away with this because there’s been plenty of easy money around to keep enough of the punters happy – even if they don’t like the social agenda, or other actions of his government.

    Now that the money is getting scarce, those who’ve tolerated the social agenda and the failures of his government (well before the virus hit) will be far less patient. They may be won back, but it won’t be easy.

    Sooner or later, reality catches up with his type, in part because they usually end up believing their own b/s – a fatal mistake.

  45. Delta A

    I was overjoyed when we got rid of state Labor. Only to discover the state Libs are if anything even bigger crooks.

    Ditto.

    Every week or so a new tax creeps into effect, a new green policy slips through.

    So depressing.

  46. Win

    Campbell Newman was the victim of envy and jelousy from even within his own party. Donald Trump will suffer the same fate. They stand head and shoulders above the mediocre.

  47. HT

    caveman
    #3583708, posted on September 13, 2020 at 6:00 pm
    Reads like the guy can’t be stopped. So how do you stop a person like Chairman Dan.

    7.62mm traveling at 2,700 ft/sec would do it nicely…just say’n, wishing maybe…

  48. Shaun

    The move to 9pm curfew is not extending anything. Please do not fall for this. With daylight savings coming into effect soon, it just moves the time to match the current daylight. The citizens are being scammed again. Dan the Man and his merry men are manipulating everyone including the media again.

  49. Docket62

    7.62mm traveling at 2,700 ft/sec would do it nicely…just say’n, wishing maybe…

    I have never seen a populace with so much hatred towards a politician and a police force. This is irreparable damage and I seriously wonder whether someone has a crack at Andrews… the destruction to some peoples lives is so complete they have nothing more to lose. These are the conditions tat insurrection and assassination are borne from.

  50. Ladyredneck

    DictaDans public persona can come across well, if you take it at face value. He is the ultimate polititian, nerdily caring, technical, matey with the jouno’s and more. But when dissected, as the following spoof clip from Tim Penhalluriack shows, it’s word salads.
    My new supucompuda

  51. Clam Chowdah

    Assassination talk is for nut jobs. Give it a rest, retards.

  52. HT

    Clam Chowdah
    #3583920, posted on September 13, 2020 at 8:53 pm
    Assassination talk is for nut jobs. Give it a rest, retards.

    I thinking self administration. Never crossed my mind any body should break the law. Don’t think this prick is under pressure and it’s becoming manifest in his demeanour?

    Retard.

  53. notafan

    Thanks ladyredneck for the danologue.

  54. Radical Conservative

    Campbell Newman tried such “disciplined ruthlessness”, as you put it, but was eaten alive by the Courier Mail and the ABC and then spat out within just three short years.

  55. min

    Pathological liar , lack of empathy , the rules don’t apply to me (especially re breathalyser after accidents) controlling , accepts fraudulent behaviour, Am I building a picture and I would like to know about any anger issues if he doesn’t get his own way.

  56. notafan

    Min I think Rohan who pops in from time to time has a boy’s scouts story.

  57. Concerned Victorian

    It’s pathetic that the only people standing up to Dan at the moment are the 250 or so brave patriots who protested today – people who have been arrested and fined so that you could have a peaceful and unbrutalised Sunday spending time with your family and doing whatever around Melbourne rather than being molested by the police. The only freedoms we get are when others are fighting for it I suppose.

    It’s no coincidence you see fewer police around in your day to day ‘COVID-normal’ life when those slightly unhinged but totally justified people are protesting. Those people are expressing their raw anger – something most of us are too weak or fearful to do. Maybe because of our jobs. Maybe because Australians are just generally compliant with authority. And that’s fine, but their raw anger should also be a rallying cry for all of us, especially for the Opposition (Vic Libs) to do something about this through legal and democratic means.

    But the Liberal party has been pathetic at their job – which should be to translate that raw anger people are experiencing into principled and cogent arguments. They’ve gone and hidden in the bushes. We’re now relying on has-beens to articulate the arguments the state Libs should be. Pathetic.

  58. mindfree

    I’ll say it again

    Andrews is NOT interested in saving lives. He is only focused on destroying the private enterprise economy of Victoria and rebuilding it in his image that government controls EVERYTHING. He is a malevolent sociopath who covets total control of all aspects of life in his span of control ie the state of Victoria

    The fact that gutless coward slime ball Scotty is now admitting defeat in the National Cabinet indicates that no-one outside his own party will take on this control freak. He has and will continue to tamper with the Covid-19 numbers to further his agenda

  59. Louis Litt

    Daily Llama – yes the lefties run the show in SA. Land tax laws with all of its kerfuffle have achieved nothing and no real skilled jobs – just more effeminate low skilled idiocy. It never ceases to amaze me how Don Dunstan sold off all the land to widen south road and then see the confusing bridges built now. How the populace vote for Kate Ellis over Trish Worth is mind blowing.
    Campbell Newman, personally I liked him and what he said. But people in particular women get sucked in by crap or same sex obsessed fantasy.
    The Libs need to throw it back at Labor. It is the party with the abc , universities and movie/ tv shows who make the couple trying to buy a house and bring a child in to the world ridiculed and laughed at.
    Wasting your time at uni and then not knowing what to do is championed eg the idiot graduate movie with Dustin Hoffman.
    They are the party obsessed with sex and murder.

  60. mindfree

    Oh and BTW – Just watched Paul Murray unload at Andrews and the PalaChook. Funny how he gives all barrels at these two but totally ignores the real culprit who gave these two assholes oxygen namely his mate Scotty from marketing

    Murray is a flake and a phony – I only turn on sometimes to see how insipid he is

  61. Mooka

    to sum it all up he is a socialist bull shit artist.

  62. What MindFree said, wait until the CCP loans start flowing, government run subsidised coffee shops.

  63. stackja

    Again Victorian voters keep electing ALP to government expecting a different result. Dan supervised Red Shirts, Lawyer X, bushfires, Pell persecution now Wuhan virus.
    Dan alone is responsible for the mess in Victoria.

  64. Makka

    Again Victorian voters keep electing ALP to government expecting a different result. Dan supervised Red Shirts, Lawyer X, bushfires, Pell persecution now Wuhan virus.
    Dan alone is responsible for the mess in Victoria.

    1.5 million voters chose to dump Labor last election. The remainder elected the ALP shit show we now have. So, you should really drop this shite that “Victorians” elected Labor because around 35% did no such thing. Dan would have his legs cut from under him if Scummo turned off the money spigot from Canbra. So Dan alone is not responsible IMO. Scummo has 1.5 million LNP voters here, many of whom are seethng with his incompetence at not handling this whole situation.

  65. Nob

    The Penberthy article was paywalled for me but it popped up on this Twitter link.
    https://twitter.com/LabaorIsTrash/status/1304886331684741120/photo/1

    I don’t do Twitter except for dealing with various customer service departments of big companies, so I do have log-in and was following Rita Panahi’s stories when I came across the article.

  66. Again Victorian voters keep electing ALP to government expecting a different result.

    Even my dog can come up with different shit every day, you just keep coming up with the same shit week after week. Sharp as a bowling ball you are.

  67. Herodotus

    Excellent post Sinclair.
    Now, if you could on the blogfront stop imitating the Victorian Liberals, get tough and get rid of the daily thread polluters it would be appreciated.

  68. steve

    Labor has governed in Victoria for almost 30 of the past 40 years.
    Time to admit Victoria is lost, voters keep electing socialist governments. They are getting the government they want it’s time to minimize the harm they are doing to the rest of Australia.

  69. Crossie

    At the same time, three young children in quarantine became so distressed by their incarceration that they started smearing the hotel room walls with their own excrement.

    I don’t believe that one for a start, never heard of distressed children behaving in such a fashion. Louts, yes.

  70. Labor has governed in Victoria for almost 30 of the past 40 years.

    The issue is that Victoria is the most unionised state in the country, which means that families are unionised and vote according to the unions.

    When you consider that education, health, public services, workplaces in general are all unionised and Labor strong holds, what can you expect? It’s only when things go wheels up, like with Cain/Kirner, is there a temporary adjustment that quickly reverts once things are well again.

    It’s not really that different from other states or Federally, it’s just that Victoria is so unionised and thus Labor favouring. And Labor doesn’t win power usually with huge majorities, it’s often preferences that get them over the line. With a strong LNP (which we haven’t had for more two decades) does it become difficult for Labor to win.

  71. Entropy

    Re fanatical social media support for Dictator Dan. Leaving aside Melbourne Syndrome.

    I don’t know how to do it, but I do recall up here in Sunny Queensland someone doing an investigation and discovering that so called large public support for a hospital name change was generated en masse from the health minister’s office.

    Just sayin’

  72. Entropy

    Crossie
    #3584157, posted on September 14, 2020 at 7:10 am
    At the same time, three young children in quarantine became so distressed by their incarceration that they started smearing the hotel room walls with their own excrement.

    I don’t believe that one for a start, never heard of distressed children behaving in such a fashion. Louts, yes.

    It happened. Apparently one of the two major sources of Covid second round as the entire family had Covid.

  73. Entropy

    Newman was a competent premier. What brought him undone was arrogance and zero compassion.

  74. bruce

    The only politician today who could wipe the floor with him is Mark Latham.

  75. mem

    bruce
    #3584186, posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:05 am
    The only politician today who could wipe the floor with him is Mark Latham.

    Yes. What an excellent idea.

  76. theleftfootkick

    Andrews presently is dictator by default, I think the only problem he sees for himself is how to make it permanent. When you go to the western suburbs of Melbourne and wander around a place like Werribee it is not hard to see why he holds such political power, the place ie the whole of western side of Melbourne is a utopian fortress for the Labor Party.

  77. Epidermis

    For the sake of Victoria and Australia we beseech Jeff Kennett to return to lead the LNP in Victoria to victory over these numbats. Please Jeff do it for the kids of today and tomorrow.

  78. Epidermis

    mindfree posted the msg below. A simple comment on a complex issue, sure helps solve things, I think not. Give us more. Perhaps you might like to add, in your opinion how SLOMO is responsible for what happens in Victoria or Queensland. If you are inferring he should cut Jobkeeper in Victoria then I agree, put the onus back to where it belongs on Kim Jong Danny Boy. Also agree if you insist he destroys the so called national cabinet (there has to be a cartoon for that, all the little faces peering out from the wardrobe) forthwith and fronts the HC supporting Big Clive’s suit.

    #3583975, posted on September 13, 2020 at 10:01 pm
    Oh and BTW – Just watched Paul Murray unload at Andrews and the PalaChook. Funny how he gives all barrels at these two but totally ignores the real culprit who gave these two assholes oxygen namely his mate Scotty from marketing

    Murray is a flake and a phony – I only turn on sometimes to see how insipid he is

  79. Kneel

    “So how do you stop a person like Chairman Dan.”

    Take a leaf from XR playbook and get the 250 protesters to superglue themselves together and to the front gate of Dan’s house.
    You could even make sure you’re all wearing well insulated boots and make a human electric fence.
    Might be amusing to watch…

  80. The BigBlueCat

    Epidermis
    #3584273, posted on September 14, 2020 at 9:33 am
    mindfree posted the msg below. A simple comment on a complex issue, sure helps solve things, I think not. Give us more. Perhaps you might like to add, in your opinion how SLOMO is responsible for what happens in Victoria or Queensland. If you are inferring he should cut Jobkeeper in Victoria then I agree, put the onus back to where it belongs on Kim Jong Danny Boy. Also agree if you insist he destroys the so called national cabinet (there has to be a cartoon for that, all the little faces peering out from the wardrobe) forthwith and fronts the HC supporting Big Clive’s suit.

    #3583975, posted on September 13, 2020 at 10:01 pm
    Oh and BTW – Just watched Paul Murray unload at Andrews and the PalaChook. Funny how he gives all barrels at these two but totally ignores the real culprit who gave these two assholes oxygen namely his mate Scotty from marketing

    Murray is a flake and a phony – I only turn on sometimes to see how insipid he is

    Public health mandates are state issues, not federal. The oxygen given to Andrews and PalaChook is from the Australian Constitution and the state constitutions of Victoria and Queensland and established through democratic processes. In terms of Victoria, we need to ask why Victoria is under so much harsher restrictions than elsewhere in Australia? And why is Queensland so inhuman to deny someone who is demonstrably free of the virus to attend her dad’s funeral?

    Murray is at least prepared to say the things that might otherwise seem to be abrasive and insulting – we need to ask why others in the MSM aren’t doing the same? We expect our free press to hold power to account – why aren’t more in our free press not doing so? That is the real issue here. And I do think SloMo needs to be held to account also, though clearly his role is different in terms of how states handle their issues.

  81. Murray is at least prepared to say the things …

    I’ve watched him on Sky News on YouTube and I have to agree. I don’t hear comments like his anywhere else in the media.

    And yes, the Federal government cannot intervene in the affairs of the states when those affairs are the Constitutional responsibility of the states.

  82. sabertoothedHamster

    Andrews can alienate even the supporters of “stronger” epidemiological measures. Wearing masks inside makes some sense, while masks outside does not – it is more politically symbolical than it is effective against the spread. And curfew is purely, 100% symbolical – as confirmed by Sutton and Patton. No modelling ever could suggest the opposite. So, while curfew and outside masks are of lesser physical “cost” for the public, they could be lifted immediately without any adverse impact (or with a really minor one) on case numbers or whatever, but it would help to de-fuse the tension considerably, with much fewer people willing to protest. My problem is that Andrews knows full well that it is symbolic, and it is precisely why he is clinging to these measures like dead jackal. “Making police job easier” is much closer when they don’t need to round up protests or harass people in parks. But that is not Andrews’ intention, and to me it is quite clear, so his whole “strategy” is just a veil to push some other agenda.
    Never again will I be voting greens or labor (shame on me for doing it in the past).

  83. The Fifth Bike Rider of the Apocalypse

    At the same time, three young children in quarantine became so distressed by their incarceration that they started smearing the hotel room walls with their own excrement.

    Shit stirrers?

  84. notafan

    Dan’s Twitter army repeat same memes and view points over and over. It’s quite possible he has some of the 64 in his office ‘working from home engaged in social media activity and I’m sure quite a few more.

    He’s hardly a pinup though.

    All very odd.

  85. Kevin Sykes

    The problem with the Liberal Party is that it is no longer the party of Menzies,Playford, Bolte and Howard all visionary state & nation builders…. Take a look at the state of the party in New South Wales Victoria & South Australia..(Glad is doing a mighty job all the while fighting the pathetic coalition of spineless cohorts the dregs left over from Photias on her side of the house !) All these state Liberal parties are comprised of soft cocks from the Pyne, Photias & Kroger factions.In SA once Downer & Minchin moved on Pyne and his gutless faction had the field to themselves which is why SA has a different government in name only..Slippery Pyne and the others have never worn the odour of installing the worst modern PM in Turnbull on the nation and the party. Marshall’s mob are no different to Jay’s previous government ! No dare, no guts, no big policy ideas. Just the other day the populace was asked to submit large project ideas of how to get the state moving again. A politician with gonads ( Playford Bolte even Uncle Joh) would have led the debate with a truly Big Picture proposal.. One that would ensure the future of the state for eons and introduce a nuclear power generation industry for cheap energy, to build university educational faculties training potential nuclear scientists; developing new industries in the use of nuclear energy such as public hospitals & batteries for driver-less cars; nuclear powered submarines & Navy destroyers with contact manufacturing for the Indo- Pacific & South East Asia; safe cold nuclear reactors; nuclear waste treatment plants; nuclear desalination plants to lessen the reliance on the Murray; and the installation worldwide of safe reactors using the nations’ largest resource of uranium. Not Marshall the furniture shopkeeper…His big picture ? A covered sports stadium on the banks of the Torrens !!! Being Right wing Conservative in the modern Liberal Party in Australia means being consigned to the back bench for a political lifetime while the slimy ‘laborlite’ govern & cosy up to the ABC & the media left.. only to keep the benches warm till Labor get its shit together..

    In the meantime we have to watch the rust bucket states burn out because of pathetic warm & cuddly political leadership which advances the population no where.

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