“All of it can be avoided if people don’t protest”

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98 Responses to “All of it can be avoided if people don’t protest”

  1. woolfe

    #DictatorDan “You will not be shot if you do not protest. Plus if you are shot you will be denied a last cigarette as smoking is banned in the firing range”

  2. Crossie

    Does Dan understand that he sounds like a domestic abuser?

  3. H B Bear

    The peasants are revolting.

  4. Squirrel

    He “damaged” the police vehicle – what’s next he tripped and “fell” on the bullet…..?

  5. stackja

    BLM protests now wrong?
    Will Vic police now charge and fine the BLM protesters?

  6. H B Bear

    Surely Chairman Dan’s tame lesbian should be delivering that message.

  7. miltonf

    The threats to citizens from their rulers are becoming more and more explicit.

  8. H B Bear

    “…protesting is stupid…”

    Pointless maybe? And dangerous.

  9. Lee

    All this can be avoided if people don’t protest.

    In other words, bend to my will, or else.
    Could have been said by any of the despots of history by way of justification.

  10. calli

    Andrews: “all this can be avoided if people don’t protest.”

    That’s a thinly veiled threat. Physical harm to citizens via VicPol.

    Out. Of. Control.

  11. H B Bear

    Chairman Dan must think he is in a Liars party room meeting.

  12. miltonf

    The dicktator seems to be channeling his inner uncle joe.

  13. H B Bear

    Setka needs to do something soon.

  14. miltonf

    Getting more grotesque and outrageous by the minute.

  15. “Don’t make me arrest you, you fucking bitch!”

    Victorians

    We see you.
    We hear you.
    We believe you.

  16. The Manager

    Speaking of which Woolfe, the cops would were pissed when Natalie of todays report lit up after they finally let her back in her car.
    Looked like they would have loved to arrest her, again, for something else.
    Anyway good on her. She’s a feisty one and stood up to the heavy handed shit some of Vicplod revel in,
    There’s ways and means to “follow orders” . Some plod deserve all the criticism that’s hung on them.
    Plenty of older ex plod agree.
    BLM protest ok but.

  17. Hay Stockard.

    So political it makes me want to puke. Victorians are worse off than the people of Hong Kong. I would suggest that the Victorians do something about the situation but they seem to enjoy being the whipping boys ond girls of Dictator Dan Tse Tung and his goons of the CCP security forces.
    Well done those that have stood up to the black shirted proxies of Peking. No patriot votes Labor.

  18. al

    Domestic abuser:

    Look what you made me do!

  19. W Hogg

    “He wanted to go to the hospital, now hes in the hospital – what’s the problem??”
    [/Dan]

    Time for Premier Setka to reshuffle the ministry.

  20. John64

    “all of this can be avoided if people don’t protest”

    He wasn’t protesting you jug-eared imbecile – he was attending hospital.

  21. min

    All of this could have been avoided if you had been competent Dan . Typical abuser you made me do it.

  22. Buccaneer

    Too late Dan Ding Dong, you encouraged the BLM protests and now you have zero moral authority because you f*cked up the the quarantine and the contact tracing.

  23. Hay Stockard

    I’m being moderated for saying true things about VicPol and the death of freedom in Victoriadanstan.
    As an excop,myself, I am utterly,disgusted by the behaviour of Comrade Dan’s goons. Any apologist is as low as they are.
    The blog is in area12.

  24. miltonf

    There’s been a lot of talk about ‘anarcho-tyranny’ for quite a few years now. It’s snowballed bigtime in the last 3-4 months.

  25. Fair Shake

    What we’ve got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it; well, he gets it. I don’t like it any more than you men.

  26. incoherent rambler

    he tripped and “fell” on the bullet…..?

    5 times
    in the back of the head

  27. notafan

    Gosh there will stamping and shouting at someone because Dan got this one wrong.

  28. H B Bear

    “Don’t make me hurt you.”

  29. mem

    Daniel Andrews needs to be put in a straight jacket and carted off. A manipulator and control freak who unfortunately has gained power and is supported by a condescending party, bureaucracy and police force. He is running rampant. There will be nothing left of Victoria in six months if he is allowed to hold power. Is that what you want Albo? Is that what you want Setka? For goodness sake get him out!

  30. Docket62

    I watched the vision of this man being ‘stomped’ and was nearly physically sick. Like many here I’m ex Vic pol, but I could not watch this. I was in the job in the 80’s and 90’s (now referred to as the Wild West) – no Mobile Phones, No GPS BUT we had personal responsibility and accountability. There were 5 members around that guy, why wasn’t the instigator stopped? This is NOT the police I were involved with. These are stasi.

    Pulling women out of cars and arresting and cuffing pregnant women is not the force I was a part of. This is domestic violence against women and should be called for what it is.

    In September, I will NOT support the blue ribbon campaign until this behavior changes.

  31. Steve

    Remionds of that momemt in “V for Vendetta”when the dictators henchment, the infamous Fingermen, accidentaly kill a child…then it all changes…..

    When you have pregnant women arrested for facebooking, women dragged out of a car for a phone stuck to the glass and now this….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuRUlqveNYg

    Come on ScoMo…..time to legally remove this blot on the landscape. ….I’m sure the ADF will help?

    It started with another Leftists, Gough….anbd now 40 years later,…..guess what? Yet another extreme power seeking Leftist.

  32. Colonel Bunty Golightly

    And Victoria will vote this bloke back in next time around. All it takes is the offer of free stuff. Victoria deserves what it gets.

  33. Docket62

    All it takes is the offer of free stuff.

    Obamaphone!

  34. Pedro the Loafer

    Andrews: “all this can be avoided if people don’t protest.”

    Gawdalmighty. The Premier of an Australian State stands up in front of mass media and threatens his electorate aka “subjects” with bodily harm from his hired goons if they dare to speak up.

    How long can this shit go on before there is outright violence in the streets?

  35. feelthebern

    Disco Dan has lost it.

  36. thefrollickingmole

    ADF happy to back up a if cops.
    “The standard you walk past” appears to have failed to kick in.
    Blue ties/ looking at watch= unbearable ovary irritation.
    Cuffing preggers chicks for Facebook posts/ dragging from vehicles because “ screen obstructed” is a soothing balm in comparison.

    Seeing this done in big groups is worse, it’s not an individual idiot

  37. Howard Hill

    The Hunchback knew this was coming, that’s what the curfew is about, that’s what the 5k limit is about, to protect his goons and himself. He said as much!

    So what’s to be done. Sit here and watch more innocence terrorised and seriously harmed?

  38. feelthebern

    I’m a firm believer in giving enough rope.
    Disco Dan has certainly taken this to a new level.

  39. mh

    Colonel, that’s so lame.
    I bet you are #IstandwithDan.
    You want people to give up.

  40. Steve:

    Come on ScoMo…..time to legally remove this blot on the landscape. ….I’m sure the ADF will help?

    Scummo is fully behind the actions of Dictator Dan. He’s even helping fund the takeover with his Job thingy.
    And like in the US, the Army has had the Generals with balls removed and replaced with gutless bastards who are fully in with the program.

  41. Pedro the Loafer

    I don’t know if it is coincidental or not, but Foxtel Movies channel showed V for Vendetta last night.

    Eerily prescient of events in Victoria.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How long can this shit go on before there is outright violence in the streets?

    Bottle of Lagavulin says the next step will be postponing the elections “indefinitely.”

  43. mem

    Colonel Bunty Golightly
    #3585200, posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:29 pm
    And Victoria will vote this bloke back in next time around. All it takes is the offer of free stuff. Victoria deserves what it gets.

    Get it through your head dumpster that most people on this site didn’t vote for him. So you bagging on this way is not helpful. Alternatively you may be one of Dan’s paid up Get up trolls performing his duties for the day.

  44. notafan

    Yes mem Melbourne has had 1.168 million immigrants since 2007.

    Including numpties from interstate but it’s all out own fault.

    Personally I’d be happy if they all reemmigranted.

    Queensland looks nice.

  45. Howard Hill

    Winston Smith
    #3585211, posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    Scummo is fully behind the actions of Dictator Dan. He’s even helping fund the takeover with his Job thingy.
    And like in the US, the Army has had the Generals with balls removed and replaced with gutless bastards who are fully in with the program.

    Yep!

  46. Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebern
    #3585204, posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:33 pm
    Disco Dan has lost it.”

    He never had it to begin with….a complete union thug….but many Victorians elected him in 2014 and then reelected him in a landslide in 2018. But the worse thing about the result in 2018 was the freak show that Victorians elected to the upper house….so that there is zero accountability for Andrews. This upper house is controlled by a motley groups of far left scum such as the Reason Party, Hinch party, Animal Justice party and the Greens. It is a disgrace but this is what you get when you vote for freak fringe parties. A more balanced upper house..with more Liberals and less freaks could have provided a circuit breaker to the extension of the curfew, lockdown and Andrews’ police state.

  47. a reader

    When Jeff Kennett leads the Lieberals to victory from outside of Parliament (it’s called doing a Newman) he should immediately disband the Vikstasi and invite the NSW Police Force to lend a detachment of officers to the state. Then they can train untainted Victorians at the Goulburn Academy until they have enough officers to form their own police.

  48. mh

    This is the first time I have seen the police car knocking the guy down

    Avi Yemini 🇦🇺🇮🇱
    @OzraeliAvi
    ·
    1h
    If you’re wondering why the public is so furious with
    @VictoriaPolice
    at the moment.

    The victim is mentally ill.

    No excuse for running him down and STOMP on his head.

    Bloody disgraceful.

    https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1305437918077399041?s=20

  49. Howard Hill

    A more balanced upper house..with more Liberals

    As a reminder. In the last Victorian election, the liberals countered Talidan’s free meds with free TV’s, just saying!

  50. candy

    I watched the video and the premier is referring to the first incident of the lady not showing her licence.

    He sees that lady as protesting and he’s really aggro with protestors right now.

    The mentally ill man causing disruption and showing violent intentions is not a protest against wearing masks. It would be too stupid for the premier to call that bad incident a “protest” against COVID restrictions.

  51. Cassie of Sydney

    “Howard Hill
    #3585234, posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:49 pm
    A more balanced upper house..with more Liberals

    As a reminder. In the last Victorian election, the liberals countered Talidan’s free meds with free TV’s, just saying!”

    You’re right HH……the Victorian Liberals are cretinous and they have contributed to Andrews’ megalomania. Victorians have lacked an opposition with substance. However the upper house in Victoria in an effing disgrace and it would have been much better to have had more Liberals in the upper house to try and stop the extension of the curfew a few weeks ago.

  52. Tim Neilson

    candy.
    #3585241, posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    He was asked about both incidents. He referred to each incident in turn. He then started saying “much of this” then corrected himself to “all of this” can be avoided etc.
    If he gets enough pushback he’ll gutless out with a fake evasion along the lines of your comment, but that’s not what he said.

  53. candy

    He was asked about both incidents. He referred to each incident in turn. He then started saying “much of this” then corrected himself to “all of this” can be avoided etc.

    Tim, I really don’t think he meant that a psychiatric patient acting in an aggressive manner could have been avoided if the man didn’t protest. It makes no sense. I think protests by Victorians are on his mind and he is alarmed by it all and got his words mixed up. It’s completely thrown him for a loop though he hides it well, is my opinion.

  54. Christian

    Other ways to avoid being brutalised by Victoria Police include:

    – Don’t be mentally ill: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-head-stomping-incident-referred-to-professional-standards-command-20200914-p55va1.html?fbclid=IwAR1-sRWDGZxWZxmY3c2IAYmQcb9EFjAYnRlBcfMivkHSMs3TPyMGEdLvyf0

    – Don’t make noise: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-complaints-in-spotlight-after-man-s-neck-breaks-during-arrest-20191025-p5348h.html

    – Don’t be a domestic abuse victim: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-17/victoria-police-officers-domestic-violence-lisa-neville/12332238

    – Don’t own a LGBT community bookshop: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-12/melbourne-police-break-mans-arm-hares-and-hyenas-fitzroy-raid/11105106

    – Don’t go to consensual sex parties: https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/investigation-into-police-shooting-at-saints-and-sinners-party/news-story/2668978695a3a4e9c0b85592f240c446

    – Don’t be a child: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/officer-cleared-after-punching-handcuffed-girl-in-head-at-drug-rally-20200520-p54upf.html
    – Don’t have purple hair:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7671253/Police-defend-officer-hitting-climate-protester-JAW.html
    – Don’t be an Aboriginal man riding to work: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/aboriginal-man-accuses-police-of-violent-assault-and-racist-abuse-20200904-p55si9.html

    – Don’t be a person with a disability: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-10/disability-pensioner-alleged-assault-by-victoria-police-preston/11857912

    – Don’t be an AFL coach:
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/17/dean-laidley-victoria-police-suspend-or-transfer-more-than-a-dozen-staff-over-leaked-photos

    It’s clear the Victorian Police can’t be trusted to discharge their duties and use their powers in a reasonable and proportionate way. I’m sure there are many other examples.

  55. thefrollickingmole

    Candy.

    Deliberately conflating incidents is called being a lying shitweasel, not “ banking it well”.

  56. Entropy

    notafan
    #3585222, posted on September 14, 2020 at 8:41 pm
    Yes mem Melbourne has had 1.168 million immigrants since 2007.

    Including numpties from interstate but it’s all out own fault.

    Personally I’d be happy if they all reemmigranted.

    Queensland looks nice

    No thanks Nota, we already have a few infestations here and they are harder to remove than fire ants.

  57. thefrollickingmole

    Hiding not banking, thank you spellwrecker you are my greatest fiend.

  58. Steve

    “this could all be avoided if people didnt protest”

    Yes……I guess nothing like being told to be quiet and well behaved while the State has you bent over a barrel and…..its for our own good…..shut up and be happy we arrest pregnant women,..and stomp on vulnerable peoples heads…..

    If they put up barb wires and electrify the Murray river we will be back to 1930s Germany…..

    Victoriastan Macht Frie…..?

  59. duncanm

    V for Vendetta

    Like many of you, I see the parallels.

    I always found it amusing that the story was written (and filmed) with the right (fascist) bogeymen in mind, while the threat in real life is currently from the left.

  60. Chris M

    The evil goon is gaslighting an entire state. There are plenty of Candy’s out there in Vik too.

    Actually the whole show could be seen as a fascinating large scale psychological experiment, except for the fact that real suffering is taking place. Psych associations seems silent.

  61. H B Bear

    Interesting. I think Chairman Dan might be suffering from monomania as he tries to compensate for his quarantine stuff-up.

  62. Fair Shake

    I moved back to Vic 10 years ago from Qld. I could not believe how compliant the locals had become. I found refuge in this here blog. The compliance runs deep here in Vic. I’d move back to Qld now most of the elders of my clan have passed. One last week. But Qld still has a red at the head. So really where you gonna go?

    Anywhere but here Victoria. Anywhere but here.

  63. Clam Chowdah

    I bet he still gets a huge vote from The rusted on labor fools in Victoria.

  64. Seza

    Tonight, Andrews said that there was no point allowing contractors to mow lawns, as there was a rain event coming that would make the grass grow, so they would have to cut it again. What the f…?

  65. Pedro the Loafer

    Australians are very obedient people.

    I have been saying this for years.

    Victorians seem to be more obedient than the remainder, but it is understandable given the huge reffo population from the third world shitholes and the daily shows of black clad goons bashing their citizens for disobedience to their masters.

    This is not the Australia I grew up in.

  66. egg_

    I think Chairman Dan might be suffering from monomania as he tries to compensate for his quarantine stuff-up.

    Definitely got some issues.

  67. Anonandon

    Nice State you’ve got there. Be a shame if something happened to it…….

  68. mundi

    Sorry for rural vice, but a boy to the head is what 90% of urban city dwellers in vic crave for, the warm embrace of the nanny state controlling their lives.

    Andrews will win the next election in a land slide and will move victoria to a state of federal welfare dependence.

  69. Steve

    I think the sad thing is that there is likeky to be violence against the cops eventually. I abhor violence and would never condone it, but I doubt everyone else shares my view.

    The real culprits are the people who are controlling Dan. Dan isnt smart enough to do all this, as Lenin said you need useful idiots. This reeks of I think the sad thing is that there is likeky to be violence against the cops eventually. I abhor violence and would never condone it, but I doubt everyone else shares my view.

    The real culprits are the people who are controlling Dan. Dan isnt smart enough to do all this, as Lenin said you need useful idiots. This reeks of years of planning…..

    The people who are controlling Dan need to be exposed.tears in the planning.

    The people who are controlling Dan need to be exposed.

  70. Steve

    Mundi

    I think a permenant Checkpoint Charlie in Albury, with orders to arrest any Vic Stasi member or Victoriastani that tries to go over the wall…

  71. notafan

    Who are these people controlling Dan.

    Dan is known to be a control freak who brooks no opposition.

    To me it is like asking who the people are controlling Genghis Khan or Saracen, it’s not some mysterious ‘they’.

    He did it all by himself with willing support from the Labor party, he thinks he can destroy society in his pursuit of being the man who beat the virus and borrowed money for government projects will make it all better later.

  72. I don’t condone violence but if I was on a jury I may disregard everything the police and prosecution said.

    Also if an accused stood up and when entering their plea, boasted *NOT GUILTY YOUR HONOUR* then looked us jurors in the eye and said *NO JURY WOULD CONVICT* and then winked at us, I might vote not guilty no matter what.

    Welcome to a low trust society. I have civic virtue but I wouldn’t waste it on Australia.

  73. HT

    duncanm
    #3585327, posted on September 14, 2020 at 9:55 pm
    V for Vendetta

    Like many of you, I see the parallels.

    I always found it amusing that the story was written (and filmed) with the right (fascist) bogeymen in mind, while the threat in real life is currently from the left.

    Yeap. Although I think of the left and right arc of politics as the arcs of a circle that touch at “despot”, at which point it’s irrelevant if it’s the left or right arc burning down society, they become indistinguishable. I remember debating “who was worse, Hitler or Stalin”. Always seemed to me both were simply evil.

  74. HT

    Steve

    #3585498, posted on September 15, 2020 at 7:09 am
    I think the sad thing is that there is likeky to be violence against the cops eventually. I abhor violence and would never condone it, but I doubt everyone else shares my view.

    The real culprits are the people who are controlling Dan. Dan isnt smart enough to do all this, as Lenin said you need useful idiots. This reeks of I think the sad thing is that there is likeky to be violence against the cops eventually. I abhor violence and would never condone it, but I doubt everyone else shares my view.

    I for one respect the your view. I disagree probably only at the point where reality meets ideology. Did you know some of the most fearsome warriors and brutal army’s that have existed are Buddhists? And there are no successful countries in the world that does not possess a mechanism to pursue violence in pursuit of its aims (for good or evil).

  75. duncanm

    I suggest the majority of vic (maybe everything except those inner-green councils) be ceded to the commonwealth under Chapter 5 (111) of the Constitution.

    Reduce Victoria to raising money with parking fines and a coffee tax to run their drug injecting rooms.

  76. duncanm

    Oh.. and in time, make it a new state, governed from somewhere like Bendigo

  77. Andre

    The Victorian police should not be involved in the investigation of this criminal act in any way. It should be independently dealt with by the AFP. While all the involved officers should be stood down immediately while charges are prepared the one who did the kicking and head stomping should be dismissed right away and charged later.

  78. Bronson

    WTF has a mental health episode have to do with protest? Is Dan trying to be funny? Managing mental health is a serious and complicated business not something to be brushed off as protest.
    Given Dan’s performance mental health will be a much bigger issue in Victoria due to the policies he is persisting with. What is his failed health department doing about managing the additional mental health patients?

  79. Epidermis

    Where are our lawyers, where are the class action lawyers when you finally need them? Cowering and craven? At least in the US we see some action against the totalitarians who hate the US

    COVID: Major case filed against Ohio governor and the state of Ohio for restricting freedom without legitimate justification Sep 14
    by Jon Rappoport of nomorefakenews dot com

    Ohio attorney, Thomas Renz, on behalf of plaintiffs, has filed a case against the state of Ohio and Governor Mike DeWine. Renz is asking for a jury trial.

    This case, in the current climate, should provoke intense interest from the public, and from every lawyer within hailing distance.

    Here is the impressive opening salvo in the court filing:

    “In recent months, entire states have been imprisoned without due process and with the clear threat to impose such lockdowns again, interstate travel has been severely restricted, privacy rights have been devastated, numerous business takings without compensation, and many regulations being implemented without statutory process requirements under the guise of a health emergency that is roughly as dangerous as a seasonal influenza outbreak. The plaintiffs in this case have all been injured in various capacities by these unconstitutional actions, and without action by the Court, will be left without redress. More terrifying, without action by the Court, the Court will be setting future precedent that will allow states to withhold fundamental Constitutional rights, in violation of US Supreme Court precedent, circumventing the various levels of scrutiny applied to such rights, and justify such actions under public health emergency orders without subjecting those orders to any real review—just trust the bureaucrats because they are the experts.”

    Here is the most important point: “We humbly ask the Court in this case to…Recognize that the political process and operative orders are invalid if based on false or misleading information… and recognize the criticality that all future emergency orders be based and maintained on clear, honest facts—particularly when such orders are infringing on Constitutional rights.”

    In other words, a declared State of Emergency cannot stand on the mere basis of arbitrary edict.

  80. Bushkid

    Pedro the Loafer
    #3585405, posted on September 14, 2020 at 11:35 pm
    Australians are very obedient people.

    True Pedro. But we’ve been very compliant and obedient because up until the last couple of decades the “rules” were reasonably sensible, and people were generally allowed to get on with their lives mostly unhindered.

    That’s changed very fast, and I don’t think a lot of people have realised it yet, especially the younger generation/s who’ve had the bullshit pumped into their heads all through school and into uni, and who’ve never experienced the Australia we older generations grew up in.

    The vanguard are the bureaucrats, uni lecturers and school teachers who’ve been shovelling the crap into kids minds over that time. What we’re now seeing is the culmination of those years of moving the leftists up the ladders of bureaucracy into positions of control, and the manipulation of the school syllabus.

    It’s not just in education, but across all areas of government control, eg vegetation and water management diktats that make productive agriculture and fisheries ever more difficult, departments bowing to activists to stop mining etc.

    So now we have a large proportion of the population that see government intervention and control as the normal/expected state, and who see anyone who dares to kick over the traces as dangerous and rocking the boat, and you get the “I love Dan” idiots who are trapped in the dependent mindset and so are happy to go along with Andrews and his goon squads. These are the snitches and curtain-twitchers who love to call up the dobber lines to report someone putting out their bins without a mask on.

    That there we’re seeing so many young people coming out and being seen and heard at these protests is very heartening. Perhaps the indoctrination of the education system has been over-egging the pudding just enough to provoke the young into independent thinking. At some point the ridiculous has to become evident.

  81. HT

    Andre
    #3585644, posted on September 15, 2020 at 9:41 am
    The Victorian police should not be involved in the investigation of this criminal act in any way. It should be independently dealt with by the AFP. While all the involved officers should be stood down immediately while charges are prepared the one who did the kicking and head stomping should be dismissed right away and charged later.

    If you or I had done that, we would have spent the night (at least) in jail. Why is that copper not in jail awaiting formal charges? Rules for thee at enforced by jackboot, but not for me.

  82. H B Bear

    Good luck to those people relying on the Victoriastani justice system without the means to fund a High Court appeal.

  83. Bushkid

    Epidermis
    #3585656, posted on September 15, 2020 at 9:56 am

    Good to see!

  84. Roger

    The Victorian police should not be involved in the investigation of this criminal act in any way. It should be independently dealt with by the AFP.

    The AFP has no jurisidction in the matter. Assault comes under the criminal code of Victoria.

  85. maman

    Epidermis @ 9:56am

    “In other words, a declared State of Emergency cannot stand on the mere basis of arbitrary effect.”

    “Arbitrary effect”?

    – would that be something along the lines of the “administrative detail” of extending the Victorian State of Disaster by two weeks just to “bring it into line with the four week State of Emergency”? No other explanation given.

  86. Professor Fred Lenin

    Yes Dandemic Dan is correct ,Democracy can be avoided if you dont protest .

  87. Kneel

    “this could all be avoided if people didnt protest”

    DO NOT TAKE THE FOLLOWING AS INCITEMENT!
    And your attempted assination could be avoided if you resign NOW – don’t make us kill you.

    Not so reasonable now, is it Dan?

  88. Boambee John

    Epidermis
    #3585656, posted on September 15, 2020 at 9:56 am

    The “progressive” lawyers have made a bit of a fetish about considering the views of overseas courts in cases here. If this one gets up, it would be nice to see that fetish rammed down tbeir colkectivist throats.

  89. John A

    duncanm #3585327, posted on September 14, 2020, at 9:55 pm

    V for Vendetta

    Like many of you, I see the parallels.

    I always found it amusing that the story was written (and filmed) with the right (fascist) bogeymen in mind, while the threat in real life is currently from the left.

    How many times do we need to be reminded that regarding “right” and “left” political terms as opposite is meaningless?

    That spectrum is no longer valid. We should be measuring “totalitarianism” vs “freedom” or in the fullest extent “total control” vs “anarchy.”

  90. John A

    I have just fired off another email to my local member (on the government side):

    Good afternoon XXXX.
    I am writing once again to point out that this Covid-19 lockdown situation is harmful, and needs to be eased.
    However, the Premier is clearly taking further steps to move the goalposts. He has imposed new conditions on the removal of restrictions by setting targets of cases reducing to a 14-day average level below 50. Why a 14-day average when normal statistical practice uses a seven-day moving average?
    I refer you to these press reports:
    News Ltd: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/victoria-fights-for-power-to-detain-highrisk-covid19-spreaders/news-story/33249f1a2311506b14c071c8399eb4b1and The Age: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/people-who-refuse-to-self-isolate-could-be-detained-under-proposed-victorian-law-20200914-p55vm0.htmlwhich report a new Bill which the Premier proposes to bring to the Assembly:  Omnibus (Emergency Measures) Bill.
    From the Age report:
    “People suspected by health authorities of being likely to spread the virus if they are COVID-positive or a close contact of an infected person could be forcibly detained if the bill is passed.
    The rules, confirmed to The Age by a state government spokesman, could be applied to conspiracy theorists who refuse to self-isolate or severely drug-affected or mentally impaired people who do not have the capacity to quarantine.”
    I ask why avoid the clear evidence that caseloads and fatalities have been dramatically reduced? What is the purpose of extra powers and additional restrictive measures when the trend is clearly visible?
    Why are new restraining measures being proposed when early treatment measures are being avoided? I refer to my earlier comments regarding the ban on using Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin with zinc and antibiotics. These proven medications are still banned under the Poisons Act despite studies demonstrating their effectiveness in the early stages of infection.
    Is it necessary to infer malice on the part of the Premier and the government?
    — 
    Regards

  91. Ozman

    John A
    #3585905, posted on September 15, 2020 at 1:19 pm

    We should be measuring “totalitarianism” vs “freedom” or in the fullest extent “total control” vs “anarchy.”

    Hear, hear!

  92. Robert

    There has been plenty of comment and vision of the policeman apparently stomping on the head of that man. What about the policeman who goes around the back, engages with the man along with a number of other police, and in doing so also appears to drop his knee onto the man’s head from a difficult angle and from a height.
    Appeared very deliberate.
    I hope they look at all involved.

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